=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 3 === Title: DJI a lot of vaginal activity in anyones money Recorded: 2015-09-17 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jae "Chipko", Niko Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 1,354 Platforms: SoundCloud (https://soundcloud.com/letsdroneout/ep-1) =================================== we talk about crash story compare costs of mini quads to larger arial video quads. places to find other miltiroter enthusiast in the uk and talk of the new beta flight! [0.18] Jack: Hello guys and welcome back to let's drone out [5.7] Jack: This is a very special [7.7] Jack: week this week because I am joined by the whole gang and [14.74] Jack: to my [16.78] Jack: immediate front of me on my digital laptop is [22.18] Jack: That's a cup [24.98] Jack: Hello everybody [26.98] Jack: And then on my immediate right my personal wife and man-servant [34.58] Jack: Nico and [36.58] Jack: directly to his right is [39.62] Jack: Au revoir ton star and he today has been sponsored by [45.42] Tony: Some French dude. No, you're not sponsored using batteries today. Oh, yeah, I've just been sponsored by [53.54] Tony: Fabiano at [56.14] Tony: Radio see he's sponsored me some [59.38] Tony: New batteries, so I'm looking forward to them which are the drone labs, which I've had before [65.02] Tony: But these are 18 hundred forests, which should be in stock tomorrow. Press a refresh button, please [70.82] Jack: Well, okay. I'll just I'll drop the bombshell [73.74] Jack: It started off. What happens is you ask fab very nicely for something? [78.94] Jack: He goes. Yeah, and then you wait a while and then you immediate hit him hard with a nice good old winch [89.3] Jack: For about week and [92.3] Jack: Constant winching and then eventually you totally get what you want, which is great [96.94] Jack: And that's how cobra motors, but if you go on the website now, you can buy the drone lab batteries [102.38] Jack: You're the reason why the 4s [104.38] Jack: I [106.62] Jack: Now exist in this world drone labs they're gonna come out so you can pre-order them today on on [113.62] Jack: radioc.co.uk [115.62] Jack: but [119.26] Jack: Like Monday, yeah that you everyone else will get an email at 3 o'clock on Friday [125.58] Jack: But yeah, you can pre-order them now. So if you're listening to the show you can get in quick get in there quick [131.06] Jack: They go quick cuz they're they're a really good battery. They're a hot item and I mean hot as in [138.3] Jack: Yeah, I mean as in they have a decent C rating right we we've had some complaints. Oh [149.34] Jack: So [150.86] Jack: first off fab when I don't understand the music and the whole idea with music is to get people pumped and like [158.18] Jack: show some [159.58] Jack: lovely [160.94] Jack: music for [162.62] Jack: What are you doing? I'm a little bit quiet. Oh, okay carry on [167.34] Jack: Yeah [168.54] Jack: When you go to the field and you want to get pumped up and I don't know we want to dedicate some tunes to people [174.1] Jack: Who come in and listen and you know? [177.46] Jack: Yeah, and where can I dedicate them tunes? Um [180.9] Jack: Probably in the chat on the Thursday night show calm or [185.9] Jack: Let's drone on [189.62] Jack: Google Plus, please add and join and share in the community sending a request [194.38] Jack: Let's drone out on Google Plus. Also. We've got an email. Let's drone out at gmail calm [202.98] Jack: I think that's it. I think that's everything right second complaint. Oh, we've got two. Yeah [208.78] Jack: is [210.22] Jack: It's an email from right. I'm gonna warn you this is a joke [213.94] Jack: So like people this is kind of like the other podcast Jack coming out [218.74] Jack: Which is is a bit like LAC Jack. So it's a joke [221.94] Jack: Oh god, wait till you hear the end of it before you'll freak out, right? [225.78] Jack: So I've got an email from this non-existent person [228.94] Jack: Right. He's called DJ a guy [231.7] Jack: At gmail.com. No one actually send an email to him because I've made that up and he says why don't you talk about? [240.46] Jack: Phantoms and stuff and DJI related products you bunch of [244.9] Jack: Race drone 250 [248.14] Jack: Yeah, and my response is oh [251.86] Jack: Sounds like someone's just jealous cuz I can't fly in rate mode [256.42] Jack: No, no, no, no, okay, you own a phantom tone [259.3] Jack: Yeah, that's how I started flying. Yeah, so you'll have to be the one who kind of [265.26] Tony: Fulfilled the it's a great machine. It's great for video [269.94] Tony: It's great for taking pictures [272.26] Tony: That's what I use it for I don't race around a track with a phantom [276.26] Jack: I once dated a photography student and she was easy and took great photos [288.94] Jack: Yeah, no, no, no seriously, I can't I can't help it and phantom stuff note secretly I have got myself a [297.26] Jack: Naza I don't know [299.94] Tony: V2, isn't it? Yeah, is it V2? Yeah [304.22] Tony: V1 was red and yours is yellow. So I think it's [312.74] Jack: See that's that's what happens when you get something that hasn't got a box or instructions [319.98] Jack: So V2 I didn't even know what version I had is it a light what does it mean? [324.22] Jack: Is there a full fat version? Well, there's I might like that better [327.42] Jae: Interesting the light version you can flash and get another power [331.94] Jae: LPMW unit and actually have all the functionality of the version too [335.34] Jae: So another way you can fly way points and all the good stuff of V2 or the nose of V2. Hang on Joe [340.58] Jack: You're really quiet for some reason we did sound check you. Yeah, we did. I'll see if I can adjust my [347.66] Jack: Keep talking. No, you do not adjust. I will adjust you keep talking [352.8] Jack: About the DJI stuff [356.34] Jack: Please [357.7] Tony: No, he's under water now. It sounds like [362.62] Tony: Joe [364.02] Jae: Yeah, they're still yeah. Yeah good old modern incident. Hey, I'm just saying here with the light version [370.02] Jae: You can flash it with version 2 and it's it's a fully fledged version for half the price [375.22] Jae: so [376.26] Jae: Yeah, good idea. I've seen people do that. So who cares which version you've got. It's still a DJ. Yeah [381.74] Jack: He's more in light. They say well, I don't know. Mine's got loads of stuff. It loads of weird stuff [387.66] Tony: It's good. They do what they're supposed to do hover in midair to so you can take really good pictures or video [392.98] Jack: Is that how it works? I don't know. I've got nothing for it to go on either [396.86] Jack: I was gonna put it on the dead cap, but now I wanna I've got a serious GPS [402.1] Jack: So I'm gonna put that on [405.86] Jack: Yeah, but my gimbal controller doesn't work properly and I shouldn't have been a tight ass [410.78] Jack: Yeah, and I should have bought a two-axis gimbal controller, but they were 50 pounds [417.34] Jack: How much was your DJI phantoms 13 hundred quid see what I mean [422.54] Jack: That is cocaine money in anyone's language. You can get a lot of vaginal activity. I'm not to say that because it's [431.98] Jack: Activity for that kind of money [434.02] Jack: Why didn't you buy a? [436.18] Tony: Inspire the reason I didn't I love the inspire. It looks wicked and I'm [441.58] Tony: So one looks like a robot doing it's amazing. It is amazing, but I [446.74] Tony: Wanted to I've taken my phantom to Greece. No, I took it [450.82] Tony: last year to scaffold and [454.14] Tony: Could you imagine taking as inspire? I mean I took took it in a backpack put it in [459.14] Tony: You know, I went up the mountains on a quad bike [461.78] Tony: So just put the put it it's so small that you can just put it in a you know [466.54] Tony: In the front carry case of the quad bike drove up a mountain and then flew off the mountain with it [471.3] Tony: You couldn't do that of inspire the house the whole reason I didn't get inspired if I never left England [475.9] Jack: I'd buy one, but I do leave England now and again. How can you leave England? I forgot we've got another guest [482.06] Jack: Yeah, I've got another guest [485.3] Jack: Who's doing some work at radio see earlier [489.58] Jack: You got chatted out though [492.74] Jack: No, he showed his teeth [496.1] Jack: No, he's a little dog by the way in the little corner. Yeah, he was smiling [508.58] Jack: Yeah, my argument is surely in the inspires way tougher because of the carbon fiber but everyone I've seen crashes [516.54] Tony: If you crash any of them [519.26] Jack: Cream crack it I think pretty much doesn't that happen with a phantom life if you crash then I've never crashed it [525.06] Jack: Is it really well, do you have to put some effort in there's a whole shell that they're encased in [529.86] Jae: So they are by the nature of design a bit tougher than what inspire our with moving arms [534.74] Jae: So yeah [535.66] Jae: and a lot of I mean a lot of people are starting to use the [538.1] Jae: Phantoms as a professional device and get an accreditation for it as a professional device and when I first started hearing this [543.42] Jae: I thought well, it's not a professional device. It's consumer [545.94] Jae: But you get good aerial photography and videography with it [548.94] Jae: So and that's why people are getting them registered [551.26] Jae: Then they're a backpack like Tony was saying the good backpack take anywhere sort of up a mountain or whatever [557.94] Jack: Size so I fully agree with that. All right. What did you yeah, what are you used? [564.18] Jae: Mine's a NASA M version 2. What does that mean? [567.5] Jae: I don't know it's the NASA essentially DJ and NASA [571.38] Jae: And the version 2 was just released. I think about three or four years after the first one [577.5] Jae: Supposed to be better hardware because there was some faults with the first one where apparently you've [582.26] Jae: Sunlight in direct sunlight that can affect some of the gyros or whatever. So there was issues with the first one [588.5] Tony: I think that's why they released the second one and I think anyone who gets a flyaway is pilot [593.34] Tony: Thought because I've had I've had no problems whatsoever [597.54] Jack: Ever with them. Do you use return to home? No, I have used it on occasions [604.38] Jack: Did you calibrate your compass? Yes [607.42] Tony: Beforehand, yep, that might be why calibrate compass make sure it's found its own port take off. You're fine [613.22] Tony: Yeah, I just never had any problem. I don't I really think that all the people who's [618.18] Tony: Flew away back to China and all that rubbish. I honestly think it was [634.58] Jack: But I think it's such a great tool in sorry [647.82] Tony: I'd like to go back to ski Athos in Greece because it is beautiful [654.46] Jack: Yeah [660.86] Tony: Yeah [677.82] Tony: I've got a video I've put up as well [681.54] Tony: Eyedrone which we're talk about in a minute. I want to talk about that now. Okay, we can talk about that now [686.74] Tony: You sure? Yeah, and I got a video of him crushing. He overtook me and then crashed into a [692.38] Tony: Into an airgate so I've got that in slow motion. Sorry Richard speaking of crashing [699.86] Tony: Yeah, speaking about crashing I got crashed into yeah [708.74] Tony: Dominic Clifton crashed into the back of me. Come on [713.78] Tony: Yes, not very impressed but I've got the footage of it [718.1] Tony: He had he didn't have any footage but you can clearly see his shadow of his quad coming in [724.82] Jack: Smashing into me back on what you know, like the the Kennedy assassination [731.26] Tony: Yeah [737.82] Jack: Draw circles like you know the conspiracy. This is the point of attack [744.82] Tony: But they go that's racing they say yeah [750.82] Jack: You should have done some more winching to see whether I let you do it again [757.26] Jack: What a great event though I dream was yeah, don't we have some stuff to read out [761.38] Tony: Well, I just want to do put a big thank thank you to Neil [766.5] Jack: Yeah, Neil Cody from eyedrone.me [769.22] Jack: What a guy and his mate. I can't pronounce his name. I think you want me to join me to butcher it, right? [775.06] Jack: I'm ever so sorry whoever's name. I'm gonna read out. So Mel Carmel. Can I is that my phone? [791.9] Jack: That's great, thank you. Thank you Apple. Thank you [796.78] Jack: Yeah, Chris. Oh, man, we're gonna do Chris. Yeah, um, yeah [805.06] Jack: Neil and Camille [807.62] Jack: Canuck [809.9] Jack: Gem from drone junkie. Oh look there's we can just call in gem [815.82] Jack: Gem from drone [818.46] Tony: I put on an epic epic event [820.98] Tony: It was really good and I think they spent a lot of money on it because I mean we the pilots only put in 10 pounds [826.74] Tony: And we got like 20 quid t-shirt. Yeah, it was like a party. It was great [830.46] Jack: All our friends were there. The course was amazing. Of course was epic [834.98] Tony: Yeah, I mean the tunnel the tunnel and flying up through that really high hoop was just really really good fun [842.78] Jack: if if anyone's [845.26] Jack: If anyone's got the footage Jay you still there [849.22] Jack: Yeah, I'm still here. Oh, wow. You actually your your video call your sound quality got amazing [854.34] Jack: If anyone's Neil if you've got the footage of the pilot's individual cams or anything. I'd love [861.9] Jack: To have that because I because I never got to record my once I managed to make it around the lap once [868.9] Jack: 66 seconds. Yes good pain to fame. Don't let me to flip through the top-end gate [874.42] Jack: Thank you, man, it meant a lot but the rest of time couldn't get around couldn't get past a lot of people didn't make it [887.42] Tony: Yeah on I feel sorry for them. It was it was hard, but it was fun [892.78] Jack: Yeah, I kind of wish that they would have like a little bit of a fun fly afterwards [898.66] Jack: So you can like just do a bit to the [901.34] Tony: Everyone wants to always pack up and go. I don't know. I mean why I had to leave early [905.98] Tony: So I didn't see any of the ending good. Well done to Johnny Benton getting second as well [911.3] Jack: I know he's coming flying with us Sunday. Can't we have him on team Brighton? [917.46] Jack: He's with us he's coming flying on Sunday with us. I need to get him a shirt. I think yeah [922.94] Jack: I knew when you pick a name. Yeah, yeah name. No, you suck [929.18] Jack: Sorry, that's I instantly go to LAC mode when I look at you you do yeah, I'll have a look at that [937.82] Jack: Tell them what it is what I put in your hand and no, it's not my wiener. Come on. It's like it's [944.26] Niko: Can I just make love to it? No, tell them what it is. They want to know what it is. It is the [951.18] Niko: Adapting components which will turn [954.06] Niko: Vinder style [955.58] Niko: V2 V3 into a [958.9] Niko: Racing tricopter [960.78] Niko: I'll put I'll put a link in a limited edition. Oh, yeah [964.54] Tony: What number is it? [966.94] Tony: 57 out of 100 [969.1] Jack: 200 [971.14] Jack: 57 yeah number 57 [973.9] Tony: How did you you actually remembered that? Yeah, I can remember stuff like that, but weird money [980.06] Tony: Things I'm supposed to do at home. Can't remember [982.06] Jack: I want it. What can't you remember about money? Sorry? [985.7] Tony: Well, how much you spent but yeah, that's more like me [990.58] Jack: Hang on I will put everything down [993.06] Jack: I'll put the I'll put the website in the chat to check you out. I loved I I love the event [998.54] Jack: I do it was really really good. It was super super fun. There's also another one [1005.34] Tony: So I just got a text. I've got a text in to shout out, please [1009.26] Tony: Yeah, if you want to read it out it's from [1012.22] Jack: From [1014.22] Jack: Who is it? Is it Chris? Please let me Chris. No, he's not. Oh, no [1019.26] Jack: Which are good first shout out and song requests for me [1023.02] Jack: Please shout out to Laura Bell who loves the guys had a great hobbies like [1027.7] Jack: FPV racing wants to try out herself. Tony will let have a go on his quadcopter song request [1034.46] Jack: Brought for you all from Laura is two packs visit biggest fan fan fans [1041.42] Jack: Gangster party. Can we find that? Yeah. Yeah, I can I can look that up [1046.3] Tony: That's yeah, that's Laura. She wants to start flying. Yeah [1050.86] Jack: Yeah, we did a we did a little should we talk about that? We did a little [1055.54] Jack: interview with [1058.34] Jack: Was it a [1059.58] Jack: RC TV, is that it? Yes, now now from us. I don't know if he's listening, but hello. Hello, how you doing? [1067.5] Jack: I don't know. We need to I didn't think I sent him the link. I might have no [1072.3] Tony: I've sent it. I've sent it to him via google plus. I don't know if he's listening or not. He didn't reply [1077.82] Tony: Do you pack what's the song party gangster party gang ain't nothing but a gangster party probably [1084.86] Jack: Yeah [1085.98] Jack: Yeah, um, what do you think of that because i'm building a racing tricopter. That's what I was gonna say [1091.1] Jack: You're trying to steal the racing tricopter from him. He shoved it. Yeah, I'm literally waiting for motors [1096.7] Jack: It's so annoying. What motors are you putting on that sunny size? [1101.1] Jack: Oh, he's got to be sunny sky. What yeah, come on. Let's be a bit more sunny sky 1500 kv or something like that [1107.98] Jack: Do we know what size they are? [1110.68] Jack: 20 I don't know 20. Oh, come on. This is it. I I don't know. I can't remember [1116.06] Jack: It'd be easier if I had them [1118.3] Jack: no, thanks to [1120.46] Jack: I'm not going to shout them out but [1123.02] Jack: But yeah, I don't know i'm just waiting i'm just I love that the camera the camera front bit is kind of like [1129.58] Jack: It doesn't look nice. Yeah, it's got a sweeping front edge that protects your camera [1133.5] Jack: It's nice and little it's got an adjusting front camera mount. Oh, yeah [1138.06] Jack: That's held into with like rubber bands. Have a look. It's the new mini tricopter [1143.34] Jack: there stuff I want to learn about is [1146.54] Jack: I've heard jay [1147.42] Jack: This is what I want to talk to you about is that [1149.9] Jack: Apparently there's some sort of box that you can tick [1153.82] Jack: Uh in clean flight that gives you developer mode and then you can install [1158.94] Jack: A new app and it was hearing lots of chatter whilst I joined about boris b's, um beta flight [1165.98] Jack: Which you've got to flash your escs with a special kind of firmware [1170.78] Jack: You can do it. Mr tone stuff [1173.58] Jack: because [1174.94] Jack: you've got um [1177.02] Jack: RC geeks [1181.82] Jack: Ese's [1183.1] Jack: I'll see geeks. Yeah, is it? Yeah. I'll see geeks. I'll see time. Yeah. I'll see time [1188.62] Tony: I'll see I'll see geeks is a shop which yeah, sorry is in crawly who are great [1193.66] Jae: Yeah, sorry [1196.38] Jae: um the uh [1198.22] Jae: You said that you can do it with the uh, i'll see timer ones. Yeah, what's what how what what makes them different to the rest [1205.18] Jack: Yeah, I hope they were um, you've got to have the bl heli bootloader [1210.46] Jack: now [1211.26] Jack: The dys ones are compatible, but you've got to have the bl heli bootloader [1217.1] Jack: Which is fine [1218.7] Jack: If you've got an app mail chip, that's the correct size [1221.98] Jack: But now everything's getting super small so that that little header. Um [1227.02] Jack: tool with my [1228.62] Jack: Usb asp does that not fit anymore? [1231.82] Jack: No, it's way too small [1234.54] Jack: Yeah, and that's one way of getting [1236.7] Jack: bl heli bootloader because like the bootloader changes am I right jay changes the fuses and everything [1243.26] Jack: of the ese [1245.5] Jae: It doesn't well I not I don't think it changes it physically, but it does change a lot of the actual [1249.5] Jae: uh [1250.78] Jae: Yeah, how it presents. Yeah, I don't really know and I don't want to give it as to it. But yeah [1255.98] Jae: Okay, so I mean i'll look into that then and see what I could come back with because my [1260.86] Jae: I came up against the same problem if I wanted to flash mine [1263.9] Jae: And you can flash it in the different ways with the headers and stuff [1267.26] Jae: But mine is much smaller chips [1269.66] Jae: So I couldn't use your app mail chip to on the ones I wanted to change from a simon k bootloader to a bl heli bootloader [1276.06] Jack: What was your solution to that? [1278.22] Jae: well, i'm looking at the um [1280.78] Jae: I don't stand alone. Yeah, because I think you can flash from that as well [1286.14] Jae: in [1287.42] Jae: Yeah, I need to look into it more. Yeah. The other thing is flashing more than one at a time [1291.98] Jack: And changing settings. Yeah, yeah with the um pass through so yeah get this tone, you know the whole [1299.66] Jack: Um flashing eses and you have to do it one by one. Yes [1304.06] Jack: You can now [1305.34] Jack: Use your nase board to have a little pass through now. So what so you can flash for at one? [1312.54] Tony: Yeah time awesome [1314.7] Jack: You can actually um just and change them individually by selecting them carry on [1318.78] Jae: Sorry, you can change it multi-wee an old multi-wee board will do it [1323.02] Jae: And I think there's there's more options for doing it through multi-wee [1326.3] Jae: Because it's it's just the board rate really and what it does to pass the information through each to each esc [1331.82] Jae: But yeah, it's going to be so much more convenient to do that. I think yeah, definitely. Yeah [1337.82] Jack: for in one go [1339.58] Jack: I have [1341.26] Jack: yeah debugging the [1343.58] Jack: Yeah debugging the tri back to the tricopter. This is where it's all linked in together, but they've got something called [1351.26] Jack: um [1352.54] Jack: Yeah triflite [1354.54] Jack: Uh underscore zero one beta [1357.66] Jack: Uh beta flight pack [1359.96] Jack: Underscore naze hex so it's the firmware. So it's from what I gathered. It's exactly the same as the pass through [1368.46] Jack: and the settings for [1371.18] Jack: um boris b's [1373.74] Jack: You know developing [1375.1] Jack: Software. So the mini tricopter where people were writing different firmware [1380.94] Jack: Do you remember like we had to restore? [1383.42] Jack: On the tricopter and you'd have to load the software from that and then get someone else's control dump [1389.42] Jack: And put that into the naze 32. Yeah, no more completely different interface on clean flight. So you've got the beta flight [1397.82] Jack: Uh triflite software you click that open [1401.34] Jack: You can only use it on your tricopter and that will make it fly better and no more servo jitter [1406.06] Jack: That sounds good. So it seems that mini tricopters. I reckon they're going to be the new weapon [1412.62] Jack: Because they hit super fast [1415.18] Jack: Like quicker at turning. Yeah, you've got they are they are pretty beastly [1419.98] Jack: What sets the tricopter apart is the servo with your so it just turns the motor [1426.46] Jack: is exactly the same as [1428.62] Jack: People running tilted motors on your quad for racing. So you've got something that moves [1434.54] Tony: I think um, i'm wondering why no one's done a quadcopter v tail [1439.24] Tony: 250 because they're not efficient details, but who needs efficiency when you're racing [1446.38] Jack: But you imagine how good they're gonna corner. Oh, well, I can't wait to see what the chat says about tony being right [1455.42] Jae: The only thing about a tricopter is they're much lighter by design [1458.94] Jack: Yeah, they are lighter less bollocks. Um, i'm allowed to say that sorry doom. Um [1464.86] Jack: Yeah, like you only have to buy three motors three eses you've got less problems more your authority [1471.74] Jack: Everything's in that center of gravity [1474.46] Jack: speaking of the gravity 250 [1476.86] Tony: Yeah, we should um [1478.86] Tony: Make it a veto [1480.54] Jack: You reckon what what the hairdryer just bend the arms? [1483.58] Tony: Why not? [1485.1] Tony: Here dry it bend the arms go quick around corners [1488.22] Tony: Sold efficiency because we've got three minutes flat out and that's it and if you crash you crash and you're out [1493.1] Jack: Who cares? Why stop there tone? Why don't you just add a rocket to it whilst you're there? [1498.14] Tony: Well, what's thinking about doing that? Well, i've seen um, who's that french guy? [1502.7] Tony: Herve pedal them or someone google it in chat [1507.18] Tony: He flies at the um, erg [1509.5] Tony: Agony agony or argani or whatever at france no comply that guy [1514.38] Tony: Um, I can't remember his name. I'm sure it's whatever he I think he's put a um [1520.62] Tony: an uh ducked fan on top of his [1523.9] Tony: Quad quad shut up. So once you hit a certain speed you can flick the duck fan on so you get even more forward speed [1530.86] Tony: But I don't know [1532.3] Tony: If it's working properly or not [1534.94] Niko: But there's an idea. I submit my 250 for these trials [1538.94] Niko: That's really [1540.22] Jae: Let's do it medicals in quad science [1544.14] Jack: All right, hang on i've got something to mess with people in the chat hang on boom [1549.5] Jack: copter [1551.58] Jack: Now we you remember last year we went to the festival fly. Yeah, and it was super fun. Yeah, um [1557.98] Jack: before we got there [1560.3] Jack: we [1561.66] Jack: Um, oh man, is there any images of it flying? [1565.98] Jack: god damn it [1567.34] Jack: Um, are you saying we missed something? We missed something he got there early and cut long story short, right this guy [1575.02] Jack: He's got a tricopter and around the tail. He's got this little belt. It's belt driven [1580.38] Jack: and [1581.18] Jack: Have you seen like on the the weird sort of gliders? [1583.9] Jack: They've got like that long pole for a tail. Yep, and then they've got this weird sort of folding prop [1589.82] Jack: And it spins around the tail and it flaps open and that's how it's repelled. All right [1595.42] Jack: It's that but on a tricopter and it's controlled with a sewing machine foot pedal [1600.94] Jack: So you plug into the back of your tarantas and you push down on the pedal [1605.66] Jack: The tricopter goes into self-level mode and just powers straightforward. Awesome. That sounds good. Yeah. Hang on [1612.46] Tony: Did you see flight tests this week? Did you see their plane they've got with that rotor halfway through it? Yeah [1619.58] Jack: What is that called stop hang on you guys you tell him about that whilst I send links in the jar [1625.5] Tony: Did you see it flight test? No flight test [1628.06] Tony: I think it was monday's episode was about 40 minutes [1631.18] Tony: Which I really like because they're doing some really like quick stuff and it runs out too quick and i'll really get into it [1636.78] Tony: I can't remember what it's called. But as a guy [1639.74] Tony: He flies 3d planes and then he's put a [1643.9] Tony: prop [1644.94] Tony: Like a helicopter prop halfway down the spine of the back of it and it can just do and he can turn it on and off [1650.94] Tony: So it's a petrol engine [1653.02] Tony: doing 3d stuff and then he can [1657.18] Tony: Turn this prop on anytime he wants and it just does this even more crazy 3d stuff like facing upwards or he can face [1664.78] Tony: That way and then he flick the switch and then it will do a turn on the spot [1669.82] Tony: what yeah, and it can spin completely in a circle, but [1672.94] Tony: But [1674.3] Tony: It's it's freaky. It's a really good episode. It sounds so weird. It is. It's it's good though [1679.5] Jack: It's really even ian davison is the inventor of the boom copter [1685.34] Tony: There you go. Carry on. Thank you. Yeah, and what about this guy on flight test? What was his name? [1690.3] Jack: And what was the so i've posted on how it works? Hang on. I can only do certain things at the time [1696.38] Jack: I'm really sorry [1697.98] Jack: I'm not I'm not that far. We haven't even played any music. Jay. Are you still there? [1703.5] Jae: I am i'm just sorting out the news section coming up shortly. I mean because it has been big week in news really [1709.18] Jack: Um, so I am here i'm listening. Yeah, well if you want to do some news [1713.98] Jae: Well, I figured I mean we had a slight request in the chat room at thursday night show [1718.22] Jae: Dot com and they were hoping for a news section [1720.38] Jae: Maybe even a weather for the weekend weekend ahead for flying and related activities called the honey badger. Sorry [1727.1] Jack: That's that's the plane the honey badger. Yeah. No, the thing my argument is right [1731.98] Jack: That there was a guy called fpv monkey not not to be confused with um flight test flying monkey [1739.56] Jack: Fpv monkey and he made a quad called the honey badger and he did [1744.86] Jack: You remember that I do. Yeah, I remember it [1747.02] Jack: He if anyone knows what happened to him i'd love to know because like people are like is he dead is he in jail? [1752.7] Jack: Like I I have no idea if you go to some forums [1756.54] Jack: There's an old post about that and then someone gives the reason and the link doesn't exist anymore [1761.82] Jack: And then you only get or someone's response to it like oh, so that's why and that's all you get that is strange [1768.54] Tony: Yeah, sorry news news. I think the weekend's gonna be all right for flying low winds on sunday and quite a nice day [1775.82] Jack: Yeah, you've got an event. Do you want to tell people about it? [1779.5] Tony: No, not really [1781.5] Tony: Let's just keep it to ourselves [1783.74] Jack: join, uh [1785.98] Tony: Southeast [1787.42] Jack: I can't remember it. Yeah, and then asked to join on we just asked uh [1792.86] Tony: Gabriel Robinson has just asked to join. He's a [1796.38] Tony: Nice lad that jim. You know, he's young. Yeah, he's only about 15 16. I think but he's got a gravity [1802.78] Jack: And he he can fly pretty well. He's quite a fast flyer. Is he the same gabrielle as the guy in the chat? [1809.9] Jack: Um, yes [1811.82] Jack: He is I think so. Yeah, because I got really confused. I wonder if there's some other gabrielle [1816.14] Tony: I know he's got a 150 his mates got a 150. Um, they were at the brighten event. We went to the um [1825.58] Tony: What was it called the one with the we were all flying through the barn windows, um that [1830.7] Jack: Yeah [1832.38] Tony: Hidden valley, yeah, they were there with sky tv and they got interviewed but he's a really nice nice chat [1839.1] Jack: There you go guys. There's the honey badger [1842.7] Jack: Um [1843.82] Jack: Oh god whispers is on fire [1848.22] Jack: On the I I say something, you know, like left-handed screwdriver hammer and there's a photo on [1855.42] Jack: on the uh, yeah [1857.42] Jack: On the uh, what's it called? Do they exist? [1860.94] Jack: Uh, what left? What did I I don't even know what I sounded screwdriver hammer. Yeah, that'd be a pretty awesome [1867.66] Jack: I've seen I went I went to an art show once and there was something called a brush hammer [1871.58] Jack: And it was it had a little note to it and it said like in case someone comes at me whilst painting [1879.82] Jack: Speaking of getting a friend into fpv you've got a little surprise, aren't you? Yeah, but [1885.18] Tony: Um, no, but this is being recorded. So I don't know when so i'm gonna send it to him too [1890.78] Tony: Oh, yeah, but well, yeah enough of that enough of that. Happy birthday bro, by the way. Yeah [1896.7] Tony: I don't know how old he is. Oh my word [1899.74] Jack: Picture of a left-handed screwdriver [1902.94] Tony: Someone sent in a picture [1906.22] Jack: Where's the hammer? I want a hammer [1910.7] Tony: Um [1911.9] Tony: What more news? I mean eye drone was well was the best event that i've been to and metal danny turned up [1917.9] Tony: That was pretty awesome meeting him after speaking to him for about a year on google plus [1922.3] Jae: Well in the news this week we had mainstream news that was covered in all the news stations [1926.62] Jae: It was the prosecution of that robert knolls. Oh what for flying these? Yeah for flying. He's over place [1931.82] Jae: Properly shouldn't have so football grounds and stuff really. Yeah [1936.94] Jae: uh 1800 [1938.22] Jae: Uh, well 1800 pound finer. So handed down from the caa [1942.3] Tony: Wow [1943.26] Jae: Yeah, and I think there was it was probably going to be higher if they had enough evidence to prosecute on other grounds [1948.7] Jae: But they they had like six or seven different [1951.02] Jae: um [1952.3] Jae: counts of [1953.9] Tony: Fly all against the air navigation order. So that poor guy is probably safe. It probably was safe [1960.22] Tony: Let's face it. They're [1961.66] Tony: safer than [1963.34] Tony: I don't know guns [1964.94] Jae: Well, yeah, the rule of 50 meters that applies for helicopters to a structure isn't necessarily the same [1971.9] Jae: You know, it's not the same risk if a multi-road is getting 50 meters to a building [1975.98] Jae: It probably still needs that separation [1978.94] Jack: Depends depends what's on it as well [1981.5] Jack: Yeah, it's like a carbon fiber prop is a lot more scary. Yeah, I agree [1986.7] Tony: But what's more scary is the american flying a reaper to a different country while sitting in their own country [1994.54] Tony: She's killing people and flying back. I mean that's worse, isn't it? Yeah. All right. All right. We're gonna go there [2002.22] Tony: I just think this guy's got a fine for doing. Yeah, it was not good [2007.1] Tony: What was what did he do what he flew I think he flew over a football stadium didn't he jay [2012.22] Jae: Yeah, it was yeah [2013.42] Jae: I mean the the air navigation says you're not allowed to fly over more than a thousand people [2017.58] Tony: You're not allowed to do that, but you are allowed to be the us army or british army the difference is the difference is um [2023.98] Jae: aircraft are typically checked for [2026.52] Jae: maintenance and airworthiness than more than a drone maybe and yes the actual impact would be greater if it did hit the you know [2034.54] Jack: What about that helicopter that [2043.26] Jae: They're not exactly the same [2045.02] Jae: Aircraft but I think they're just erring on the side of caution really for for getting people to stop flying over people in case they do [2050.7] Jae: Come down. So what is this? [2051.74] Jae: The carbon fiber against the neck can cause a lot more damage than a carbon fiber against the leg [2056.54] Jae: You know the potential is there and there's risk there and that's why they don't want just people just flying anywhere just in case [2062.06] Tony: You know, I totally agree with you and I think it's good that they do that and I think it's good that [2066.7] Tony: Dji put big ring of gps ring round airports that people can't fly in but I don't know I don't [2074.06] Jack: The thing is though i've heard [2076.46] Jack: a lot of people go [2079.02] Jack: To out the way closed down airports [2081.98] Jack: right and some [2083.66] Jack: Someone's gone and gone like that's an airport in this country [2087.82] Jack: They're you know, they might set up the software in china. They've looked over and they're like, this is an airport [2093.82] Jack: And it's not it's not an airport. It's now day. It's closed down world war two airport and they go there [2099.58] Jack: They're perfectly allowed to fly there. They can get permission from the control tower and someone's written code and it's like no [2107.1] Jack: That's what I mean. If you like things will fuck up. There's always something good [2112.3] Jae: it's it's only class, um [2114.3] Jae: The category a and category b is how they determine it and even within an air [2118.38] Jae: Air space, um, they let you fly to a certain height even if you're in that [2123.26] Jack: Like 25 meters or something. I know I know [2126.46] Jae: There is but it is uh only for the larger airports [2129.5] Jae: So if you look at the map on their site the potential is that they could start doing [2133.98] Jae: More areas if people object to it, which yeah, that's that's the danger. They've done that around the white house now [2140.38] Tony: Put a ring around the white house [2142.62] Jack: Yeah, they have probably put one round buck house soon. Yeah after this week. Well, look at well trappy trappy sorted that one out [2150.38] Jack: you know [2155.98] Jae: If you wanted to actually um fly anything one of these things you could do it you might have to move from dji, but yeah [2164.14] Tony: People have been flying models for years, you know people have been flying planes for years and [2169.82] Tony: It's just [2171.66] Tony: They've just made it easier now [2174.7] Jack: Yeah, well they they've made it accessible but it is [2178.78] Jack: It might it might be someone's like way into the hobby, you know, because I know look at jack [2185.98] Jack: He bought a dji phantom too. He hung out with us. Yeah, he he was like, how do I do this? [2192.62] Jack: How do I because he had to go at building or wanted to fix a few problems and I got him on to [2198.62] Jack: RC model reviews, which is bruce simpson on youtube and he started watching his low cost [2206.3] Jack: Mini quad build. Yeah, which was like a little four part tutorial. It was good that one and it was great [2212.14] Jack: And it showed you you know, if you're tight on a budget [2215.26] Jack: This is how you build a quads and he started building quad didn't he? Yeah, admittedly [2219.74] Jack: He didn't get on with clean flight and went to base flight. Yeah [2224.22] Jack: Don't blame him [2226.54] Jae: Is it a formal apology does it only need a formal approach maybe yeah hydra [2231.26] Tony: in your formal apologies [2236.86] Jack: I have got his phone number if you want to just like ring him [2241.58] Jack: Should we ring him now? Should we just phone hydra and be like it's only because i've got to the second one [2245.98] Tony: I've got to two semi-finals. I want to get a bit firmer [2249.9] Jack: Why don't you why don't you have like a semi-final? [2253.58] Jack: At your end and I declare yourself like points of being tony [2257.66] Jack: Well i'm having a fly this sunday [2260.14] Jack: This sunday's i'm just gonna be i'm gonna kick everyone out crashing that one's a practice. Let's let lap two's um a final [2268.62] Jack: job done [2271.1] Tony: Oh [2272.22] Tony: Laura's uh texting again with another request. Hi, Laura. I haven't even played the first one [2276.38] Tony: I know she said can you play the second one, which is I think biggie small's [2280.14] Tony: um [2281.82] Tony: Track, um, and she says it's good idea that we have a weather update on thursday for the weekend [2286.78] Tony: So we could keep that in permanently. If you're in charge of that mr [2291.26] Jack: And mr [2292.38] Jae: Rainy app [2293.42] Jae: I am a grazing [2294.46] Jae: Bearing your mind. We don't just cover, you know, we're global now. So you're gonna give the weather reports around the world [2300.06] Tony: We're only gonna do southeast england. Sorry guys [2302.86] Jae: Well, at least the uk you could do the uk [2305.18] Tony: Okay, nothing else. I think the weather's gonna be right saturday on sunday [2308.7] Jae: Uh moving fine temperatures. No, not above 20 with light winds [2312.86] Jack: Saturday's perfect [2316.38] Jack: You american weather because you used to have an american girlfriend [2320.54] Jack: Because I know how much you love america. I don't know anything about american weather [2324.62] Tony: Like you've eaten a hamburger over there bruce is in bruce is uh in england, but he resides in america [2331.74] Tony: So he can yeah, he can phone in and say he's [2339.02] Tony: For about [2340.3] Jae: Well, there is an easier way, but you can just check on there's a website windy ty I think it's dot com [2345.66] Jae: That's that's the one amazing [2347.66] Jack: Windy way. Yeah windy. It's like a put it in the chat [2350.94] Jack: Yeah, we'll go down chat. It's so helpful [2354.3] Jae: It does temperature of rain and all sorts, but the wind [2357.34] Jae: um [2358.78] Tony: It's the wind isn't it? I hate I hate wind as much as I hate rain [2363.18] Niko: Apparently sunday the wind is supposed to be between about five and fifteen miles an hour [2368.38] Niko: Fifteen is not good fives that I like. Yeah, but the there are gusts. Yeah, which will come and go [2376.14] Niko: Because it helps because I go fishing a lot and you need to know the weather for fishing [2379.74] Tony: Oh, we don't want to talk about that on this program [2382.06] Niko: It plays into it plays into the weather for flying as well [2386.86] Niko: because you need the same [2394.86] Jae: I hope you're gonna go fishing with a drone as well [2397.42] Jack: You know, you can't just go fishing with a stick if any yeah, any of you [2401.74] Jack: If any of you are still alive in the chat, please let let let us know [2406.46] Jack: and [2407.26] Jack: Anya and and hire also pilots there is in aircraft more probably thorough in their pre-flight checks [2416.86] Jack: Okay, someone was on about jack finally managed to tune in this week all things being well should have [2424.14] Jack: Your skew antenna kit ready next week [2427.74] Jack: Any events coming up and bumping to you? I've got the tony's one at sunday stamina park. Oh now you tell them [2435.48] Jack: 11 ish. Yeah until we get bored. Just email me. Uh, uh, [2442.14] Jack: Let's drone out [2444.28] Jack: gmail.com [2445.98] Jack: So if you want to know [2447.66] Jack: Um, oh, there's his head. I want to go [2450.38] Jack: Why don't you we're gonna build you 250 you need a video and then a transmitter btx [2457.66] Jack: Gabrielle [2459.18] Jack: Good with the aircraft the local flying club, but wouldn't be able to fly a dgi if I had one [2465.18] Jack: fair enough [2466.86] Jack: Um, chico. Yep. Thank you. That's good [2470.62] Jack: UK for us loving the show now to put the kids in the bath speak soon [2475.18] Jack: Well, if you need help putting them to sleep, we'll put the weather back on [2480.38] Jack: What was that what was that michael fish, isn't it? Yeah, michael fish is the worth of it [2486.3] Niko: That's it there will be a slow southeastern wind [2489.98] Tony: That was it when he said about the hurricane some butman rungings and it wouldn't be a hurricane tonight [2494.7] Tony: What's stupid and the next day all the trees in england blow down? Yeah [2498.94] Jack: Oh dear. Yeah [2501.5] Jack: Show me age there. That was 89. I think can we have a can we have a uh, picture of michael fish on the uh whispers [2508.22] Jack: Yeah, can you put it on that? What do we call that jay? What is that called? [2512.22] Jack: Uh, what's what called the thing with the photos and the gifts? [2515.58] Jack: Oh the canvas canvas. Yeah, can we have a picture of michael fish in all his greatest fish? [2520.78] Jae: You know what? I'm sure whispers are probably with it was one up within seconds from me. I know I can't wait [2526.22] Jae: I'm just good [2527.98] Jae: With the train getting on there. It would be like there [2530.62] Jae: So where if it's if you're anyone's listening to the control of the canvas, that would be funny. Right? Um, i'm i'm gonna [2537.34] Jack: I'm gonna i'm gonna put my head on the chopping block here, right? [2540.62] Jack: Oh [2541.58] Jack: There he is michael fish [2543.98] Tony: Oh my lord. Are we having a songbreaker? We're just gonna go we're gonna go [2549.9] Jack: Yeah, and we'll play out gangster's party for laura laura, yeah [2556.36] Jack: Projects we aren't gonna build a zmr. We are [2561.42] Tony: Starting probably tonight. Yep [2564.3] Tony: And hopefully ending by sunday morning. Yeah [2568.54] Jae: I I have all the bits for zmr to build tonight as well. So I might just do exactly the same thing as you guys [2574.14] Tony: Just not quite there. We could we could johnny's in the chat. We could do it on skype. Is that johnny bandon? [2580.78] Jack: Oh, hang on, um, johnny vander hell has tiny not mentioned about his cuddle with metal danny yet [2588.7] Jack: I'm really surprised. It wasn't some sort of metal danny and laura three-way going [2594.3] Jack: There was some serious [2595.98] Tony: Quad love some bromance, man. Yeah, I know [2602.12] Jack: Very funny johnny don and jolly wardrove the bbc has the pleasure naked from the waist down fish by nature [2611.32] Jack: What's the voice of doom can you make any sense of that i've got no idea [2615.96] Jack: uh, right [2617.24] Jack: Projects projects on the go on but everyone knows i'm building a mini tricopter j. You're building the zmr [2623.08] Jack: You're building gravity 250. Yep, and i'm getting my stuff built for me [2629.24] Tony: I hate it [2630.84] Jack: I see I literally have to follow you around [2633.24] Jack: Like I am with a soldering. Yeah, yeah, like it's broken again [2637.48] Jae: Yeah, I need to find a uh an antenna for my vtx one of the longer ones so it stands up a bit further [2643.24] Jack: I know somebody makes this [2645.0] Jack: Yeah, what what smi? [2647.56] Jack: Uh, yeah, yeah, i'm on that [2649.96] Jack: Just add it to the list add it to the list [2653.32] Jack: I'm never gonna leave the bench. Um, tony's giving me some batteries. So you might have a few batteries there [2658.36] Jack: Yeah, you can have some batteries. Yeah [2660.44] Tony: Three batteries for whatever whatever helps three batteries whatever you can't use him anymore because i'm sponsored by drone lab [2667.24] Jack: That's it. Only one [2669.32] Jack: How many pictures of michael fish are there? [2672.04] Jae: Oh probably countless. Well, it was on the tele for how many years so millions. I would imagine. Yeah [2678.84] Jack: John johnny banner let us know in the old chat what it's like to be number two [2685.32] Jack: Yeah, it was the eye [2687.0] Jack: Yeah, good position. Well done [2689.0] Jack: I know what was your fastest lab? Uh [2691.7] Jack: 42 I think I really loved the tunnel. It was good. I can't believe I couldn't record my footage [2697.88] Tony: No, I can't believe you didn't either [2701.08] Jack: Weren't you filming me like a somewhat policed parent? [2704.84] Tony: I was standing behind you going come on. Come on [2707.56] Tony: But it's hard to like gear you on like [2711.0] Tony: When I was flying when my first round everyone crashed and I was going on my own. I could hear rctv. You're sharing go on tone [2718.84] Tony: Like that is just it's a bit off putting but yeah old your your boyfriend [2724.68] Jack: Um, he wears headphones and he listens to the sound of his quad my boyfriend [2730.36] Jack: Take it as better down here. Yeah [2732.68] Tony: Um, yeah, he does which I think is a good idea and i'd like to [2737.48] Tony: Do that i'd like to well i'd like you to do that [2741.88] Tony: So yeah, you've got to put a mic in please get it arranged. Yeah [2745.48] Tony: Yeah, we can because when you have you noticed when you're flying nearer to yourself [2750.2] Tony: If you're racing or flying and you hear you can hear the pitch of the motor you sort of fly better [2755.0] Tony: I seem to yeah, when it's gone away and you can't hear anymore you [2759.88] Tony: You don't know what yeah, you lose a certain attachment [2762.68] Niko: Yeah, because you can tell your throttle from the sound of your motors you can so I think yeah [2768.84] Tony: We could we could we could i'd like to have that online so I can hear it when i'm further away [2775.08] Jack: Old father shine i'm building an arc lols [2780.36] Jack: How about events round up to complement the weather [2784.52] Jack: The amount of prizes made me feel good johnny said [2788.44] Jack: Old father shine hey [2790.52] Jack: Yeah, jay by the way [2792.28] Jack: Odd father shine says hello [2794.28] Jack: to to jay [2796.04] Tony: Yeah, the hydrant gave a lot of way. They must have spent a lot of money on that geek. I'll tell you [2801.16] Tony: Really really did really good. So yeah paying back by um shopping at hydrant. Yeah, buy some stuff [2807.96] Jack: Buy some stuff guys. Yeah, they sell the video aerial systems antennas [2812.04] Tony: And they are really are they the only place who can sell them in the uk at the moment [2815.8] Jack: I've been doing some whinging. Oh good. Don't don't worry. I always always never stop whinging [2822.84] Jack: Look at that sub in at radio c then. Yeah. Yeah, totally. I bought them in I whinged [2827.96] Jack: I waved the business card more followed by more [2831.64] Jack: whinging [2832.68] Jack: It's like the weather isn't it? [2835.96] Tony: I really love your aerials the aerials that you've made me. Yeah [2839.56] Tony: Oh [2840.6] Tony: I think on par [2842.6] Jack: Yeah, i've got the thing is i'm waiting [2845.8] Jack: For someone called andrew to 3d print me a little jig to help me make more precise and quicker antennas [2853.08] Jack: And in exchange, I will make him very nice antenna. He will be the first person [2858.2] Jack: Come on andrew get your finger out. Yeah, so [2861.08] Jack: I don't know old father shine if we play this last tune, are you ready to take over? [2866.92] Jack: Um, and yeah, we can play it out and then give us a shout [2870.6] Jae: For coming up tonight on the thursday night show. We've got a very special show [2874.2] Jae: Um from 10 till midnight d1 has his 100th show [2879.16] Jae: No way [2880.76] Jae: And he's I think the first person from everyone that's played maybe I think that gets to get that to the accolade so [2887.8] Jae: We've got digit three and coming up next is old father shine. Yeah, he's amazing with his journey [2892.04] Jack: Cool, but one last thing should we because someone said in the chat, which is really good [2896.28] Jack: Can can we give an event round up? So we've got what's happening? [2901.08] Jack: What should we go to what's cool? And then we'll play this tune [2904.44] Jack: because [2905.64] Jack: Chi has got an event coming up. He has sub two. Yep [2909.64] Jack: No one booked in for another half hour because I need to book a place. There was only three places left [2914.44] Tony: And that was last night. Oh, no [2917.16] Tony: So I don't know and I think they do a winter event where they do some racing indoors as well [2923.96] Tony: Yeah limited to 180 though [2926.2] Tony: Well, that's not too bad. Does everyone get a 150 180 be fun? [2930.6] Jack: Yeah [2932.84] Tony: Um [2933.96] Tony: Anything else trying to look for his third of october? [2937.4] Tony: It is the third of october [2939.4] Jack: But and then there's um, the fpv league's got an event coming up, but i'm not allowed to say where or when but it's gonna be awesome [2946.36] Jack: Let's not talk about that [2948.84] Jack: Let me know boys if any of you tom, let me know when I can say [2952.76] Jack: Oh good anything else here it is. Oh, no, it's not [2955.56] Jack: Oh, come on. Sorry weren't prepared for that one. We wasn't so i'm trying [2960.2] Jack: But definitely we need to check that. That's another complaint [2965.56] Jack: Send your complaints to tonestar the [2971.24] Jack: gmail [2973.24] Jack: Thanks. Hello. Um, it's uh, let's drone out [2977.0] Tony: At gmail.com. It's rotor racing. Yeah, it's on the third and i'm not sure there's any places left [2984.2] Tony: Where is it? It is in west london somewhere. I can't see what's the website? [2990.6] Tony: Uh, is there a kebab shop? [2992.68] Tony: www.rotoracing.com. Can you get to it by bus?