=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 5 === Title: Tonys Birthday Recorded: 2015-10-01 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Jae "Chipko", Niko Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 990 Platforms: SoundCloud (https://soundcloud.com/letsdroneout/tonys-birthday-episode-5) =================================== A mutrotor podcast Just Jae And Jack and it's Tony's Birthday! and he's not there! [0.86] Jack: Hello and welcome back and you're listening to another episode of let's drone out I am [9.26] Jack: Jack also known as bright until I fly and i'm also joined by [14.3] Jae: Jay uh over up in uh further northland hello everybody yep and he just decided not to come [19.98] Jae: out because he's busy Jay are you still there? Oh indeed I am yes the modern wonders of technology [28.7] Jae: yeah so I believe we've got a few flyers possibly in Cambridge listening through an iPad right now [34.38] Jae: to the show so if you're still flying out that way at the country I hope it's going [38.22] Jae: well and you're having fun and listeners all over I believe so hello to everyone yep and [44.3] Jae: keep in the sky now there is one person that's missing today isn't there? Tony decided to not [49.58] Jack: come in for the show. Tony looks like he's in a car if you've seen the chat you'll know that [55.98] Jack: I think he's being driven around by Laura I think unless he's driving no he looks like [62.54] Jack: he's in the passenger see let us know where you been what you doing he's um these men would go [69.66] Jack: up in a hot air balloon but apparently got cancelled it was very windy today yeah and [75.02] Jae: they don't really like flying in the wind have you been in one Jack? No I'd love to um thank [80.62] Jack: you whispers for putting up an image of um everyone and my number plate and if you look on [88.78] Jack: the canvas there's a picture of Dom me and Tony um out in the hidden valley so we were like the [95.18] Jack: first people to go fly there for a while and we were in there uh this weekend and we had a blast [102.54] Jae: yeah yeah sadly I couldn't make it down that way but uh it did look like a lot of fun I've seen [106.78] Jae: some of the videos from it loads of fun well last week you were I was down there but not [113.58] Jae: it was days earlier than that so yeah it was quite a good day it was fun and we had good [119.02] Jae: weather but it was a game windy down that way and the wind did cause a little problem for me [123.66] Jae: in FPV but I was the wind is a bit of a problem sometimes uh for flying these small little things [132.06] Jae: and wind shear behind the buildings but it's a great sight you know if I was only a little bit [136.3] Jae: closer I'd be down there so much more yeah hidden valley yeah where is your favorite place to fly [142.22] Jae: anyway I've never asked oh I've got to say hidden valley I mean I've always quite liked the [148.06] Jae: picturesque places for if I'm trying to get the video or the um photography aspect but uh probably [155.34] Jae: in that sense out in house or up in Scotland in the out hebrides because it's so rugged yet there's [161.42] Jae: there's some megalithic structures that are of interest and yeah so I I'm slowly turning you [167.74] Jack: to the dark side though because uh well Tony as well because Tony put uh uh gravity 250 in your [174.3] Jack: hands and I've been slowly edging you towards the 250 world indeed in fact of the most type of uh [182.38] Jae: multi-roadest things that I have it's the 250s now enough parts for the 250 range yeah there oh [189.82] Jae: I love them I mean that's what I love flying these days because they're just so fun [193.98] Jae: and also for people watching them that haven't really seen them fly they're so much more fun [197.9] Jae: because they'll flip and they'll dance around the sky rather than just float up and then float [201.74] Jack: around you know what I mean yeah they're fun yeah that's crazy yeah I mean um I I snapped uh [209.74] Jack: I snapped an arm on my um uh ZMR or ZMR and um yeah I was pretty gutted so I went uh onto thug [221.89] Jack: and they stopped making that thickness in arm so I had to buy a whole new set of arms and I just [228.37] Jack: don't want to fly it anymore so I'm going to change frames I can't say what frame I'm going [232.53] Jack: to change to but I'm changing is it just going to be a transplant or are you going to buy all [237.57] Jack: new things for a new frame oh man I'm not that rich I'm not um it's going to be a transplant but [243.49] Jack: I'm going to I'm going to give kiss CSEs one more try yeah yeah for real you know because I just [250.69] Jack: I just really like them you know because they got uh is it dedicated um man [259.17] Jack: like I want to say drivers can't remember what they are um no it's gone but yeah it's just the [266.77] Jack: response and I was digging out well I say me I was uh Daniel Upton was digging out [276.69] Jack: information on someone's made a lovely lovely chart and I will find it so the whispers can put the [286.53] Jack: um chart yeah the chart yeah but basically it was an ESC performance test and you know someone got [295.09] Jack: one of those turnergy um bench testing things with the uh basically a little scale set and it [301.25] Jack: measures thrust in grams and um rigged up you know had a standard motor and rigged up a [308.77] Jack: rigged up a few yes loads of different ESCs all the way hang on let's have a look let's see what [314.77] Jack: was that was in the test um the RX40A uh 14 volt beta um X rotor 40 amps performed really well [330.05] Jack: uh XR 20 amp uh beta kiss 30 amp then it was kiss 18 then MR uh [344.53] Jae: I know it's so nerdy we're finally living up to our name yeah straight out with the ESC yeah I know [350.53] Jack: I know but but worrying right it goes all the way down the list till we start getting to something [355.89] Jack: we recognize so like two more that we don't know and then it's rotor geeks RG20s are really good [364.69] Jack: the RG20s version 14.1 in beta was that then and then the Afro 20 amps uh I think these are the [374.69] Jack: race ones because they were all they were in beta as well and um the Afro 20 amp high voltage [382.05] Jack: and then DYS SN20s in beta as well ah and then like at the very last DYS Simon 30 amp it's crazy [396.61] Jae: I think yeah if you find that chart I think that'd be good to know I've got it hang on I'm [400.53] Jack: going to put the link in the description well uh people in the chat room uh a board and one [406.45] Jae: no no no no of the ESC list they mentioned little b20 amp or at least little b and I was looking at [413.73] Jae: the uh site today after your recommendation as well Jack and they're out of stock but [420.21] Jae: expected stock tomorrow the second so I guess if there's anyone looking for them they are back in [426.61] Jack: stock tomorrow apparently so yeah all I'm getting from Bani is in the chat and all I'm getting is [434.37] Jack: little b20s I know but you can't get hold of them and the best place to get them is the multi rotor [439.73] Jack: parts I know I asked Boris B what ESCs he runs and he said them but it's 40 pounds for me to [448.53] Jack: change over plus you know always buy them in fives people always buy them in fives and this is the [455.41] Jae: whole reason why people go ready made sometimes yeah because I mean there's so much choice out [460.61] Jae: there now and it's it's on ESCs on firmware on ESCs which boat boot loaders and all these different [466.37] Jae: things just for the ESCs alone then the flight controllers and I can see why people can be a [471.33] Jae: little bit overwhelmed when they're first wanting to start yeah I mean I mean at least you and I [476.37] Jae: have some experience in what these things are and you know and a lot of the other people that are in [480.69] Jae: the flying already do but for a new car which is a hubby and sport yeah yeah I mean I I I vow I [489.73] Jack: promise myself that I will do a ah yeah happy birthday Tony happy birthday Tony I promise and [500.59] Jack: I vow with the help of someone called Ed I will I will make a beginner's guide I will make a British [509.31] Jack: because um oh uh in news as well um this is cutting over and I will come back to you Gabe [518.75] Jack: I will come back to you I haven't forgotten uh in news you know RC model reviews you know how he [525.15] Jack: was having problems couldn't fly anywhere today video first thing this morning he's got his wings [531.15] Jae: back exactly yeah well done Bruce well I'm really happy about that because he has made some amazing [537.79] Jae: videos on uh you know tips tips and all sorts and but I think the interesting thing is his um [543.55] Jae: technology on the sense and avoid which is the the technology that's still uh yet to make it [550.27] Jae: through to a consumer level I think yeah and he's still being tested probably patented and all [556.43] Jae: sorts but at least he's looking to help with the technology and that's why I never understood why [561.07] Jae: they had so much problems but maybe it was a well I'm not going to speculate it could be all sorts [566.43] Jae: but I'm glad it's back on the airwaves and flying yeah I just want to I want to say a special thank [570.91] Jack: you I think it's Paul and Jason his uh mediators and I just want to thank them personally and you've [579.07] Jack: got full support of uh let's drone out and if you want to um yeah if you want anything said [586.75] Jack: on the airways let us know email in to uh show at let's drone out dot com um also fantastic 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capitals or lowercase uh i have no idea probably do it i think i did it today i tested it out and [726.59] Jack: it was uh lowercase i think yeah so yeah yeah just good whack out those three letters i think [732.91] Jack: it's the best uh best thing but there you go for all our listeners five percent off happy christmas [739.15] Jae: wow yeah so the thursday night show is kindly hosting as if you're not down in the chat room [744.03] Jae: head over to the thursday night show dot com we've got a few people in the chat room tonight [748.27] Jae: we've got baron von riot bernie uk and gabriel i think i saw a doomer there earlier as well [755.95] Jae: so head on over say hello and we'll take sort of uh any uh questions that you've got [760.91] Jack: because we've got you know time tonight so yeah about about that song that i played earlier how [767.39] Jack: it was um laser uh i had an email from from gabe well i say email he somehow he's managed to find [774.35] Jack: his way on my google plus so like he's able to message me directly so like if he wants to like [780.43] Jack: message me at like four in the morning he's got a direct line to my mobile phone i want to know [786.91] Jack: how that happened and uh like severely disciplined the person who did that but uh no big ideas gave [795.23] Jack: but he he sent me this i was like laser with a z i was like i'm not having this so i replied back [801.39] Jack: saying that's not how you spell laser i'm very disappointed i said tell me what laser stands for [809.15] Jack: and no googling it and uh he did he was like oh i did this in gcse and i had to wait for about [815.15] Jack: two or three minutes whilst i listened to the song i was like yeah it's not too bad of a song [819.07] Jack: and he takes back the uh do you know do you know what the uh correct acronym for uh lasers i heard [826.19] Jae: it just again the other day but i don't know i can't remember i've had too much other stuff i know [832.35] Jack: oh come on and i love lasers don't get me wrong i think lasers are amazing cool i hope that the [838.27] Jack: sensing void system involves lasers because um you know not to quote austin powers but freaking [844.59] Jack: lasers yeah uh light come on come on joe light what do you remember i don't know i really don't [853.31] Jack: remember don't put me on the spot light and it means with a amplification yeah and then it's by [860.91] Jack: uh admitting yeah yeah radiation yeah yeah you got it uh i think it's simulated emissions [870.03] Jack: emission of radiation i think that's it yeah light amplification by stimulated emissions of radiation [879.71] Jack: i think it doesn't help i'm dyslexic gabe if we got it wrong severely discipline us in the chat [886.99] Jack: don't forget you can join the chat and join all the fun in on i mean on works the thursday night [893.87] Jae: show.com yeah it's you can chat in the same window now even on a i think a mobile device so they've [899.63] Jae: done some work it's looking good and it's working well in fact in an updated volume player so yeah [904.67] Jae: they've done some work on it it's looking good there's a canvas as well streaming some pictures [908.67] Jae: if you've got some pictures let us know where they are we can post them up there too yeah [913.23] Jack: but by the way um we drawed the i know in half an hour we will tell who we drawed out [921.15] Jack: in the hat or we'll phone tony and he will off i'll phone tony and we'll announce the winner [928.27] Jack: after the news on who won the gravity frame dave's here oh it's cool sing me happy birthday [936.27] Jae: in the duck duck club please well i think they've there's no sort of royalties to be paid on the [943.23] Jack: the words so i think we can anyway i don't know i think i think no i think the people want a song [950.75] Jae: man do you want to play no no we're with tony's up in the chat we'll speak to him no he is he is [956.67] Jae: and i mean well you're calling him up later to give the answer to the yeah i suppose yeah we can [961.47] Jack: do it then gave gave dyslexic as well you have my deepest sympathy uh yo yeah guys in the in the [971.04] Jack: chat uh can you guys list them what escs you're using because you know sn20s which are the zys [979.12] Jack: rated quite low in the chart i don't know whether whispers picked up that chart [985.12] Jack: or can put it up but uh shall i talk about the weekend or do you want to say what do you want [989.28] Jae: to talk about ah no weekend sounds good what are you doing this weekend um i don't know like sunday [996.48] Jack: we're apparently going out for a fly but i don't know i want to sort of want to see who's around [1002.0] Jack: and maybe get like a sort of special tony fly maybe have a vegan barbecue or something i don't [1006.8] Jae: know some sort of hippy stuff yeah well sunday i do have three so um Saturday i'm busy i'm doing [1016.96] Jae: some flights over cambridge way having a fun five day over that way uh and heading to make space see [1023.52] Jack: if see if i can tinker with some technology i mean tonight right about now i am missing the [1029.36] Jack: there you go there's the chart up in the chat um i'm gonna have to we're gonna have to start [1034.48] Jack: making show notes i think uh i am i'm gonna have to and i need to be more organized but yeah right [1041.84] Jack: now we're missing the hack space in london so tom and all that and the fpv league not going to [1048.08] Jack: completely rinse the news but did you see the the info on the fpv league jay i haven't i have been [1055.68] Jae: full on this week um i know please do share please uh well i need you to do some gassing first so i'm [1063.2] Jack: going to tell you about it and then you give your opinion so yeah if you type in the fpv league [1069.04] Jack: they've found um a paintball arena uh white chapel and you get to fly around there and it [1075.84] Jack: looks scary johnny banton uploaded a youtube video of it as well is that the one that they [1081.92] Jae: changed the the course for because it was a bit too hard yeah and yeah no i did really found that [1087.52] Jack: one and um well i mean look i went to the first fpv league but i never got to run because i didn't [1093.36] Jack: have 10 pound on me and i should have made friends more quickly and asked someone because [1098.88] Jack: someone would have lent me some money maybe because everyone's great in fpv but uh yeah [1104.4] Jack: they're recommending using 180 quads in that race and i'm just wondering a 150s band and if anyone [1111.44] Jack: knows or rolls with that group can uh yeah can you let us know right over to you jay i'm gonna [1119.36] Jack: let nico in oh nico is he funny right just just gas oh i can guess or just sing happy birthday [1126.08] Jack: if you get stuck just sing happy birthday i'm ever so sorry hang on just rescue nico yeah what from [1133.76] Jae: the front door or from the dog the dog he's not there is it he's downstairs i need to give him a [1139.36] Jack: key but that's just way too cupply yeah that's dangerous move but still yeah i mean i've been [1147.04] Jae: thinking about building a 150 but i suppose i've only just gone down the size to the 250 but the [1151.6] Jae: smaller things are where they're heading i think and ultimately they do provide much more uh close [1157.36] Jae: range agility so but it's the never-ending cost and expense of upgrading and downsizing it's the [1165.12] Jae: downsizing of the drones that's uh costing a lot of money on the back oh excellent i was just saying [1172.4] Jae: it's the downsize it's a downsize that's all like i've worked it out to be i need to spend more [1178.24] Jack: to downsize it's pretty ridiculous like you know you know i i do miss the the 550 or you know for [1187.12] Jack: 480 size quads and stuff and you know like everything was made out of wood and there was [1193.36] Jack: dinosaurs chasing us um they they counted as the near miss when you went near them i was gonna say [1199.52] Jack: if i give uh if i give old nico a key i'll have to give gabe a key it's ridiculous how you doing [1206.88] Jack: put him on a hook on the outside of the door yeah he he isn't quite mic'd up kiss are expensive [1213.28] Jack: and firecrackers yep totally flown all of them little bit of the best kiss second flight smoke [1221.52] Jack: i had that bani um no 105s uh like i'm flying 10150s tony yeah tony's got 150 i built for him [1233.92] Jae: sorry i'm just trying to catch up on the chat yeah it's been pretty uh busy in there hello to [1239.52] Jae: jack i think jack is in cambridge he's still in cambridge jack if you answer in the chat i'd love [1245.76] Jae: to know hello nico right at one point i wonder what they're gonna go from a sorry i interrupted [1252.0] Jae: from the nano size to the 150 size there must be a halfway house the optimum size or like i don't [1258.64] Jack: know some sort of like stretching or sizing quad you know like with little servos that extend the [1265.36] Jack: arm by 10 millimeters telescopic arms yeah gear system hydraulics telescopic telescopic quad [1273.36] Jack: i don't i don't even know yeah so uh now you're here and you'll be pleased to know that um i i [1281.28] Jack: built and made the mini tricopter i say built it's got no top can and uh the battery was just [1289.04] Jack: balanced there with tape yeah with sometimes we put tape when i went to flip it you weren't there [1295.52] Jack: but when i went to flip it i put some electrical tape on but um yeah it was good fun it was slippery [1302.48] Jack: like the tail servo on the yaw you'd yaw i bet that was and it was nice it was nice and smooth [1307.28] Jack: and all of a sudden it would like swing round yeah which is a little bit very drift car like [1313.12] Jack: but it's right up your street then yeah totally but uh yeah you're right it does look a bit ghetto [1319.84] Jack: there's no top plate on there a bit mate i'm still waiting for a camera but all in all uh whispers [1326.56] Jack: have you got a photo you should have a photo i sent you saying is that a tricopter in my pocket [1332.48] Jack: or am i just pleased to see you because uh the tricopter does does fold up it does fit in your [1341.28] Niko: pocket yeah i've experienced it firsthand have you yeah like you want one didn't you i i do [1347.76] Niko: but i also want my my normal size tricopter so i'm probably going to just have to fork out [1353.28] Jack: and build another separate mini one well thanks to um at radio c again you will have decent fpv [1363.6] Jack: on your tricopter and we will finish that tricopter tonight so we've got to level it [1369.76] Jack: we've got to find the point of where the servo is doing the least amount of work [1374.96] Jack: and um i strongly suggest you put landing gear on there yeah uh whether it be with tape [1381.44] Jack: or cable ties i don't care i've got no cable ties left i have i found loads in my bag of [1388.8] Niko: from the from the old days where i used to just walk the dog through the park in the mornings [1392.96] Jack: yeah baron von ryatt says any size that fits the 22 or four cobras will do what sox frame [1406.24] Jack: oh yeah wonder what bani what you want about sox frame i'm gonna have to google that [1412.96] Jack: oh what what whoa he's got an nta one man that's a road that is a god that tony's got a road mic [1424.4] Jae: he's got a better mic than me what oh to replace the other one that he got the other day [1432.72] Jack: thanks bruce oh man that mic was awful just feedback city right i'm gonna go phone tone [1439.04] Jae: okay jay you read the news yeah well as you mentioned earlier has been a big uh news story [1445.76] Jae: today uh for bruce simpson who does the two channels on uh youtube x xej xj xj xj sorry [1456.88] Jae: and uh i see modern reviews our lord and master deserves your respect southern hemispherian [1463.04] Jae: you know i've got an even softer spot for people over there they they're up against some of the [1467.28] Jae: you know authorities and they don't always have the forward thinking um it goes ahead the only [1473.2] Jack: reason i like new zealand slightly in in a way is that you can legally drive k cards from japan [1481.84] Jack: really yep you can't do that in australia obviously australia's mask but you know like [1487.12] Jack: why would you want to drive like a small what could be considered as an ice box of death [1493.04] Jack: do you know like the whole if you were to fill the whole volume of the car with fuel for no room no [1500.72] Jack: driver no no just anything it's empty probably wouldn't be enough fuel is it just engine wheels [1507.6] Jack: and a giant fuel tank you probably still wouldn't be able to get across yeah but mate across australia [1513.36] Jae: you can only drive at 70 miles an hour you know so the equivalent of 70 miles an hour across the [1520.4] Jae: whole of australia and yet we can drive pretty much 80 on the motorway if you're lucky 85 more [1526.08] Jae: whatever but you can still generally drive a little bit faster than 70 miles an hour on [1530.56] Jae: british roads where there's people in other cars and trucks the only thing they've got out there [1535.04] Jae: is kangaroos and if a kangaroo hits your car and sends you off the road you're in the middle of [1539.28] Jae: the desert you probably die if you don't know what you're doing so the thing is i would abuse [1542.56] Jack: australians more if i wasn't afraid no because like they're mental they're lively they're lively [1552.08] Jack: people and then the other side of the the flip coin is that jay's hang on jay's accent is british [1559.44] Jack: enough to slip on by most people yeah and if they he doesn't talk enough so if i'm there insulting [1566.72] Jack: australia uh they might just take offense to me and they're like i wonder where bright until i fly [1573.76] Jack: lives you know and like brighten's not a big place when you've got like a couple of australians [1579.28] Jack: looking for you so i will continue to be polite i'm the wonderful country that is australia and [1585.76] Jack: i'm sorry about what happened hey brusie's in the thing hey tone do you want to announce who won and [1591.52] Jack: i hate you because you've got a road mic hey what was that who yeah who did win you do know [1606.62] Jack: oh yes you do we do we we put names in the bag and you've pulled it out who is it [1615.26] Jack: it begins with a b oh god tony you are happy birthday but you are old and senile now well [1624.53] Jae: bruce uh in fact tony bruce usa says happy birthday tony from florida oh hang on um pardon [1631.65] Jack: well someone's wishing him happy birthday from florida yep yeah uh bruce says happy birthday [1638.05] Jack: from florida this is all getting very confusing i'm ever so sorry listeners of the yes baron [1643.65] Jack: von riot you are the winner congratulations yep gabe if you had broken your quad more viciously [1651.17] Jack: earlier you might have won i'm sorry we're gonna send you some stuff out your second place um [1657.65] Jack: but yeah baron you win tony you're useless but we love you oh no way we're gonna send [1669.02] Jack: you and bruce simpson to a retirement home so you can be senile and have a good evening [1675.5] Jae: back to the news well just before you go to the news um there was a lot of good crash pictures [1680.78] Jae: sent in so thanks everyone for sending their crash pictures and it always brings a tear to [1685.02] Jack: my eye to see these things broken up yep but the news for all the support yeah and we enjoyed [1691.26] Jack: every one of them good job even the planes there was a large section in the bmfa handbook and i [1696.86] Jae: did see a post a couple of posters on uh facebook um there's the news about the drone racing at the [1702.54] Jae: national and tony got a mention on that so that's quite good uh that's basically the event that took [1707.82] Jae: place out in lincolnshire the nationals whether you know i think i managed to read some of it [1713.42] Jae: and uh it was quite good that at least got a mention in the bmfa which were let's face it [1717.18] Jae: quite embarrassed to be putting on at last minute but it you know it was a great day and it turned [1722.94] Jae: out well uh bruce has got his wings back which we know and this is uh quite big news actually [1730.14] Jae: there's a new show coming up on bbc cbc i believe where there's drone flying involved [1738.22] Jae: yeah that's right nico and there's nine to four nine to fourteen year olds they're going to be [1744.54] Jae: the stars of the show but the interesting thing that's come to light is that there's going to be [1747.82] Jae: a guardian that's going to be able to help or anyone else can help them with it so essentially [1751.34] Jack: you get to probably fly as well i'm just going to shave nico so he looks what so he's your little [1756.94] Jack: kid yeah yeah i'm sure you've got the mental mentality skill of the sorry 14 year old yeah [1766.22] Niko: do you think i can pull that off maybe yeah maybe i'll have to put your eyebrows [1770.46] Jack: yeah i'll shave you yeah they're like he's not a 14 year old boy you're right you caught me his [1777.42] Jack: gorilla that i shaved and taught how to walk up right well the show is the show should be a mix [1784.62] Jae: of something similar to robot wars and bam zuki which i i've heard of but i've never seen work [1789.82] Jack: i have no idea oh there's a tricopter in my pocket yeah i think are you who are you happy [1796.46] Jack: to see in that one no mate i'm happy to see a flying field that we're legally allowed to fly at [1803.02] Jae: if you don't know what we're talking about you need to head down to the chat room at the thursday [1807.26] Jae: night show dot com and you'll see a jack with a tricopter sticking out of well his pocket and a [1814.14] Jae: large smile on his face that's news in itself sorry jay i keep cutting you off you know we're [1821.74] Jack: we're you know wading through the news at the moment gorilla gorilla shaver loads of people [1828.06] Jack: like shave him shave me go well i i think we should test it out if you do it now while i'm [1833.26] Jae: reading the rest of the news then you know we can see if we will pass and then maybe you'll get on [1837.26] Niko: the shoot show yeah i'd love to be on the i've been waxed for charity before and that's not fun [1842.06] Niko: yeah it's okay to grow back yeah it took like almost a month to even start growing back yeah [1847.5] Jack: when i first met you i was like why is there just patches of hair missing yeah yeah it was [1853.5] Niko: a weird face it was to raise money for the japan tsunami and this very sadistic man [1860.38] Niko: did one right at the very top of my thigh on the in what on my inner leg oh yeah also um earlier [1869.9] Jack: on if you if any of you go to um bright until i fly on youtube i've got a favorites video section [1878.54] Jack: and on my latest favorite video there was the um fpv uh what was it formula one formula fpv and [1889.98] Jack: someone did a little video and it shows everything you missed and also there's a wicked demonstration [1896.46] Jack: by um bany on his freestyle set so that's quite good to check out yeah i actually uh i saw [1904.94] Jae: bany's uh stick placement video was it i think which overlaying the sticks over the um video [1912.22] Jae: out there i'm pretty sure it's just anyway anyway i i think for learning how these people fly it's [1917.66] Jae: brilliant to be able to see what their sticking puts out on those videos i think that should [1921.98] Jae: happen more yeah yeah totally and um and the black box can do that that little recorder you [1927.82] Jae: can essentially cut out just what you want with your stick so it's doable in mass now yeah yeah [1933.18] Jack: i need you to teach me more about the um the you know the overlay because you did warn me about [1939.9] Jack: um when you output uncompressed data it all of a sudden turns into gigs gigs of data from the [1948.38] Jae: black box yeah when i wrote out a video file of the data which is just the graphs and the sticks [1955.74] Jae: um and the gyros um it does a web m format i believe which is a web media video and audio if [1964.62] Jae: you want um container but if it renders out uncompressed video files at 1080p or more [1973.98] Jae: like 2.7k whatever it is you're gonna get quite large files until you just compress it back down [1979.74] Jae: that and i think the thing to bear in mind is the black box software and the file explorer is quite [1985.58] Jae: it's still in development it's it does its job so you know whether it gets developed more and how [1991.34] Jae: soon depends on the developer but i like it it's it's good for what it can do [1996.94] Jae: yeah we did have some events this weekend you're talking about a fly-in on sunday or something [2003.34] Jae: and flight somewhere but um thanks to gabriel with news stories and events uh we have little [2010.54] Jae: harling model flying club that's on the third of october so saturday it's an open field near [2015.5] Jae: london um if you want to know more we can ask gabriel himself he's in the chat [2019.98] Jae: this kind of thing is going way too far 18th october is the fpv indoor racing now that's [2028.3] Jae: indoor racing always does look uber cool yeah yeah and that's in white chapel in london [2033.58] Jack: oh man they've got abandoned churches smash windows it's paintball thing sign up there's [2039.9] Jae: only 32 places yeah 32 i mean do you know how much of it it's already fulfilled up [2048.54] Jack: i don't know i'm got a clue i'm not in cahoots with tom enough i know he has a very cute dog [2055.18] Jack: like fox like dog that likes digging holes yeah um and exploring this is another shade [2062.7] Jack: gorilla boy the gorilla um i'm gonna look like that uh vod movie jack likes to crash crashes like a [2073.33] Jack: taxi driver likes rain means more work thanks mate thanks that's true actually simulators are good [2082.69] Jae: and now it's getting to winter and shorter days that's when it starts you know being a replacement [2089.57] Jack: yeah i mean um also if you've got fpv free rider um there's uh they've released an update for it [2097.01] Jack: oh really i don't i don't know what happens in it how recent was that uh today uh it was in my [2103.17] Jack: email was it was it tweaking or did they add new levels i've got a clue it didn't say all it said [2108.21] Jae: was you've got an update well i do like fpv free rider and i think it's worth the less than [2117.09] Jack: a five or whatever it costs yeah to get the full version 28 pm today what updates available for fpv [2124.21] Jack: free rider i don't know i'm so sure this is me yep we miss you tone happy birthday yeah you're [2133.58] Jae: living your life not being a nerd this leaves it down to you jack that has made every single [2139.26] Jack: episode yeah i yeah because i'm reliable and responsible really no completely not uh fpv [2150.14] Jack: free rider is nice dos 06 or higher i don't know there is um there is what is it called fast props [2158.22] Jack: or something that simulate looks really good because you write race your friends with it [2162.7] Jack: there's got like little ghosts and stuff oh i've never seen that before yeah but um it was still [2167.74] Jack: in development when it first come out obviously uh some people are having problems running the [2175.26] Jack: fast props free props i can't remember what it was called fast props i don't know all props [2180.86] Jack: no props everywhere props props yeah prop props happy props day tony yeah props to you bud yeah [2190.22] Jack: hey dom's whispers all i can hear is like mouse movement yeah actually you know what that's the [2195.9] Jae: trouble with this desk it's a horrible noisy desk but anyway i'll just leave that alone oh yeah [2202.3] Jack: apparently for 30 seconds we dropped out you didn't miss much no no in fact it was probably [2208.54] Jae: a blessing in disguise perhaps yeah so we're back now yeah yeah so i'm looking forward to flying [2214.54] Jae: this weekend and the weather is looking good very calm winds so this whole week is supposed to be [2220.38] Jae: not too bad it's dry and calm winds sat day looks like the better one for my region sort of [2225.98] Jack: cambridger adventure are you gonna try and make it down for the um what time are you starting on [2231.66] Jack: the sunday i don't know whenever really there's no real rush i mean i got a few little treats down [2236.06] Jack: here for you i think yeah i mean i found i found one or two things if you want i mean uh i meant uh [2245.02] Jack: i meant to have a delivery of new arms and i don't know whether to put that together [2249.9] Jack: but or just fire the tricopter but i know line of sight tricoptering sounds good yeah yeah [2258.86] Jack: your little we made a start on your fossil yeah my 250 so you're excited you're you're posting [2265.9] Jack: photos of how i lay everything out yeah it looks really nice everyone can learn yeah thanks for that [2272.06] Jack: no how many of you have ever built them i don't know mate no no one no one's gonna be able to [2276.94] Jack: build them like you do well i hope i hope not well jack if i were to drop in fix it up shop and [2283.74] Jae: transplant shop and build shop you're like the go-to man for the drone series and all sorts yeah [2289.82] Jack: i like helping people you know i like you know i like this whole like helping out and hobby [2295.18] Jack: and i'll always remember bani just uh you know just going into the middle of a load of people [2300.94] Jack: and be like i need one of these and him putting up his hand being like here you go and you know [2306.38] Jack: said to tony pay me tomorrow so like i love this trying to help people out and i think [2312.46] Jack: like especially what bruce simpson did with the low exactly what did you say yeah low budget [2316.94] Jack: build and i vowed to you know one day with the help of a few people make a small little budget [2324.3] Jack: budget build for people wanting to get into the hobby and stuff you know and little little tricks [2330.7] Jae: and tips for the gravity that's one of the best reasons for me what was that joe there's so many [2339.82] Jae: people yeah yep you can hear me so many people out there are willing to help and it's not like [2345.58] Jae: oh i've someone can fly better that they're not going to be as helpful and it throughout the hobby [2350.46] Jae: it's to share the knowledge share the the passion and i think that's that's uh something else yeah [2355.98] Niko: what what i like about this hobby is that it doesn't really matter how well you fly there's [2359.66] Niko: no kind of elitist aura about the people who fly well it's they they it's you just have fun really [2366.94] Jae: yeah yeah but i and yet people still recognize when someone can fly well yeah exactly it's [2374.46] Niko: nice because people people who do fly well get recognized for it but those who are still learning [2379.98] Jack: don't don't get like slated really no i know totally i mean we all remember like this the [2386.54] Jack: the hobby still so new that we all remember what it was like to to begin with i mean i remember [2392.14] Jack: flying a little hubson in my room and then all of a sudden it just stuck to the ceiling [2397.58] Jack: and then i freaked out and turned the transmitter off and then it just show right onto my tv like [2404.3] Jack: you know and that's that's it i'll never i'll never slate anyone i'll never be like amateurs [2409.98] Jack: because like you know who turns their transmitter off you know like all you gotta do is like [2416.94] Jack: yeah quicker to just drop this the left stick mode two flies but actually when when mode one [2424.86] Jae: when i give a hubson to people that's the number one rule i just say look if you get into trouble i [2429.9] Jae: don't care what it is just stop the throttle because when i didn't say that people would [2433.98] Jae: sometimes leave it on thinking i don't know it won't write itself yeah like or it'll get bored [2439.9] Jack: it'll get bored and just be like i'm i'm landing now oh bruce bruce wrote me a lovely message he's [2445.82] Jack: like jack you have a long-lost brother in florida who i can who i befriended for tech support [2453.18] Jack: and uh tony goes money penny i need someone to go with me on cheese event this saturday [2458.54] Jack: but uh he can't he's busy take nico if i shave him first you can take him what [2468.86] Jack: baron von riot said i once tried to calibrate my escs with the props on it didn't go well [2475.42] Jack: with one motor and it cut me badly have you got any photos of that yeah we like i like seeing cuts [2480.7] Jack: of yeah you know i might we might update your postage if it's pretty horrific if you send it [2487.66] Jack: if you send it in to uh show at let's draw now calm and then i'll forward it to uh do it quickly [2495.98] Jack: do it quickly and i'll forward it to whispers that's all i'll say i do may not be i don't [2502.94] Jae: know if they want to put on the canvas because some people don't like seeing him you know [2509.26] Jack: yeah well it's part it's part of the hobby joe you know what i mean touch wood i've i'm pretty [2515.02] Jae: lucky so far but my favorite video is a guy catching his phantom and i think it was your [2519.82] Jae: phantom one or something with carbon props but after he cut himself he was holding one closed [2525.98] Jae: not realizing there's another massive cut on his arm and that's just dribbling it's like oh [2531.34] Jae: you know people need to think okay this is a spinning blade do i want to try and catch this [2537.42] Jack: spinning blade of death that once you cut your wiener off with carbon fiber props that are stiff [2543.1] Jae: and you know slice slice and dice yeah but it does come with the hubby you're right yeah i remember [2551.98] Niko: the first time i cut my arm open it was um well it wasn't really me it was you flying your hubs [2557.58] Jack: and into my arm don't blame me for your flying i'll never get insured by fpv.org again i suggest [2568.22] Jack: people go there don't say stuff like that i'm gonna hurt you when this show goes over [2575.98] Niko: in the playground at lunchtime yeah you're dead man i think i think you had been flying [2582.78] Niko: a week and i didn't have my hubs in yet mine was on the way after being inspired the one time we [2588.94] Niko: took it to the park and i took it off and immediately plowed it into the grass oh man [2595.74] Jack: good times i know what is your oh man i had i had one where you know like sometimes you're a [2603.82] Jack: bit lazy and you just want to get up in the air very quickly yeah and i i put my quad too close [2609.34] Jack: to me in fpv and it like caught just the you know you've got the fingernails you've got the [2615.26] Jack: first knuckle yeah and then you've got your main knuckle that little flat bit in the yeah and it [2621.26] Jack: just caught me there and there just ever so gently like little hubs and cuts ooh but 250 style [2629.42] Jack: gabe's got a nasty gash on the canvas right about now most of my injuries are burns from soldering [2636.14] Jae: so much and things and holding wires while i sold get some tweezers well helping hands are good [2643.02] Jack: philistine yeah tweezers tweezers i'll give you a pair well yeah i mean tweezers are hard to come [2650.38] Jack: by sometimes i think we need dust your strength right um i'm gonna i'm gonna say one last thing [2658.06] Jack: well and then obviously do a bit of promotion and then i'll play out a song but it's in relation [2664.14] Jack: um right hang on i'll do the promotional thing first uh we have now been sponsored by radio c [2669.34] Jack: for our itune uh for our soundcloud so what's their website radio radio c.co.uk yep that's right [2677.5] Jack: and they've given us an offer code ldo for five percent off if you spend up 30 pounds you get [2683.74] Jack: free battery strap if you spend over 80 pounds you get free delivery uh and they sponsored us [2690.38] Jack: for our soundcloud account so that will give us the ability to load up the shows and they're [2696.22] Jack: giving us money for an editor so that the can count the music the f words and the arms [2702.7] Jack: and we will soon be on itunes so you can subscribe and never miss an episode [2709.58] Jack: and um earlier on in this week i had uh dave i think it was [2717.34] Jack: uh yep dave he was having problems with some motors and some escs and like people are like [2722.94] Jack: we don't know what's going on we don't know why and it turned out to be just some team motors they [2727.82] Jack: just didn't work with b r heli which is really strange so if any of you got any ideas it's in [2733.74] Jack: the southeast mini quad racers if you want to join there don't forget the let's drone out google plus [2741.26] Jack: as well you can go there and join our forum there'll be you know prizes and stuff to win [2747.66] Jack: and so forth and uh we were trying to help out and i posted up a picture of dan upton settings [2755.1] Jack: and i said this these are the official settings by dan upton the man who's brained so large [2761.02] Jack: it has grown and pushed his teeth out he's got a really big really big smile shall we say and [2769.34] Jack: like a little kid at the playground was like do your teeth ever go in and uh so he's getting [2774.62] Jack: bullied by a little kid i think he should take the kid on the show on the cvvcs and believe [2781.34] Jae: well it's any relative by the way i've got to add that in any relative so maybe you've gotten down [2786.38] Jae: and who brother sisters uncles whatever who's got a nine to fourteen year old you can get to go on [2791.1] Jack: the show jack yep all right nope nope nico's my only option so anyway i posted this and people [2799.34] Jack: were actually zooming in to see and read his settings it was a joke it was a joke it was a [2805.34] Jack: picture of dan licking my computer screen over some settings we're trying out they were close [2812.62] Jack: to the official settings but uh dan if you're listening to this can you please upload your [2817.82] Jack: proper settings and people taking them seriously only me dan upton and tony got that it was a joke [2826.7] Jack: everyone else thought it was real i know it was bizarre i love you guys you guys are so [2832.22] Jack: great but just funny so be careful in forums you know actually help people yeah aww cute dog [2842.14] Jae: i can see yeah charlie on the chat yeah but what's that in the foreground what is this microphone [2850.06] Jack: isn't it yeah it's mike junior's barking edit i thought it was some walking robot or something [2856.14] Jack: at first uh apparently we've got emails and photos i haven't got them i haven't got the emails [2864.3] Jae: i might have to sort that out if you click faster and now it might come through yeah so [2869.58] Jack: you've been listening to jay yeah goodbye anneko nice to meet you guys again and jack [2876.7] Jack: powered by radio c somehow and drone labs five percent of lgo and the thursday night show