=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 6 ===
Title: Hampshire FPV Terror
Recorded: 2015-10-08
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Jae "Chipko", Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Niko
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 1,048
Platforms: SoundCloud (https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/242932989)
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another fantastic episode and mutiroter chat

[0.78] Tony: Hello. Welcome to Let's Drone Out.
[5.78] Jae: Drone out my ear.
[9.78] Tony: That was my impression of Jack. Was it any good?
[12.78] Jae: Oh that's brilliant. Now you've got to say more man in it.
[14.78] Jae: Like, hey man. Welcome to Let's Drone Out.
[18.78] MULTIPLE: Hello.
[19.78] Jae: Man.
[20.78] Jae: Man.
[23.78] Jae: Hello everybody.
[24.78] Jae: Hello.
[25.78] Jack: Hey. How's it going?
[26.78] Jae: What's the fires out there?
[28.78] Jack: Right. I am Jack, also known as Bright Until I Fly.
[31.78] Jack: I'm directly opposite me is...
[34.78] Jack: Tony. The Tone Star One.
[36.78] Jack: And your host for today is...
[40.78] Jae: Jay. Also known as Chipco.
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[84.78] Jae: L-D-O. That's up against our case.
[87.78] Jae: Yeah. Easy enough to remember. That's for sure.
[90.78] Jae: Okay. Let's start the show.
[92.78] Jae: Yeah. So, it's been an interesting week.
[95.78] Jae: I had the pleasure this week of hearing a drone reference on a radio show in Sussex.
[101.78] Jae: With Neil Pringle, I believe it is.
[104.78] Jae: Though he should rename himself as Neil.
[106.78] Jae: Daily Mail Sensationalist News presenter Pringle.
[108.78] Jae: And I'm sure we're going to talk a bit more about that today.
[111.78] Jae: If you haven't checked out the Google page, the recording of all the sound bites is on there.
[116.78] Jae: Yeah.
[117.78] Jae: So, that's quite an interesting one. Have you listened to it, Jack?
[119.78] Jack: I have. I listened to it all the way through and I fully enjoyed it.
[123.78] Jack: Did it make you angry?
[125.78] Jack: It did. What was the... Like, we are... Did you know, Tone?
[129.78] Tony: What's that?
[130.78] Jack: Did you know, without playing it, because that is fully droning on, that we are...
[136.78] Jack: East Sussex is a number one, two place.
[139.78] Tony: Oh, I heard that, yeah.
[140.78] Jae: Second Hampshire is number one, but close enough, I suppose.
[143.78] Jack: What I want to know, right?
[145.78] Jack: Second place for most complained about drone complaints to the police.
[149.78] Jack: What I want to know is, in Hampshire, right, what's going on for people to freak out?
[155.78] Jack: Is it some *******?
[157.78] Jack: One person.
[159.78] Jack: One *******.
[161.78] Jack: Forgive me.
[162.78] Jack: Terrorising people with said drone.
[164.78] Jack: Or is it multiple people? Is there a group of them?
[166.78] Jack: Are they acting, little thing?
[168.78] Jack: Or what I really want to know is how many of these cases are people being like,
[174.78] Jack: what's that up in the air? Oh my God, it's a drone.
[177.78] Jack: I better ring the police anyway.
[179.78] Jack: You know, like, even though, like, it's no big deal.
[182.78] Jack: Jay, what do you think?
[183.78] Jae: Yeah, I mean, to be honest, people, I think, are a bit fearful of their privacy
[187.78] Jae: and everything that goes with it.
[188.78] Jae: And I think they... Because of the media news and everything,
[191.78] Jae: oh, it's close to airplanes. It's doing this. It's looking in my backyard.
[194.78] Jae: It's looking at, you know, I think people already have the fear there
[197.78] Jae: rather than appreciating what they, you know, that most of the people who fly them
[200.78] Jae: don't invade privacy and do it in a legal, safe manner.
[203.78] Jae: So, yeah.
[205.78] Jae: And it'd be good to get some stats on who's reporting them
[208.78] Jae: and what complaint they were complaining about.
[211.78] Jae: Was it noise? Was it data protection on the, you know, did it have a camera on it?
[215.78] Jae: So, yeah.
[217.78] Jae: And hopefully it's going to appear on the UK crime map.
[220.78] Jae: Drone spotted.
[222.78] Jae: Drone terrorising neighbours on the crime map.
[224.78] Jae: That would be interesting.
[225.78] Jae: I guess, like was said on the show, education is key for getting it out there
[230.78] Jae: of what people can do, you know, perhaps what these things are capable of.
[234.78] Jae: And it reminds me of a post where somebody says,
[236.78] Jae: here's what someone looks like from 100 metres up,
[239.78] Jae: and you could barely recognise them.
[240.78] Jae: They had a cardboard cutout of, like, a lady in a bikini.
[243.78] Jae: Yeah.
[244.78] Jae: And you couldn't recognise that from 100 metres up.
[246.78] Jae: It just looked like a couple of specks in the field.
[248.78] Jae: So, I think it's probably the fear that's driven by, you know,
[252.78] Jae: the mainstream media that causes these...
[255.78] Jack: That's what they do all the time, isn't it? With everything.
[257.78] Jack: Anyone see, know, or seen where my phone is?
[260.78] Jack: Oh, it's there.
[261.78] Jack: Whoever, whoever...
[262.78] Tony: It's there.
[263.78] Jack: Whoever just texts me.
[264.78] Jack: Can you text me, like, five times I can find it?
[267.78] Tony: This is after I've cleaned some of his apartments.
[271.78] Jack: This is what I mean.
[273.78] Jack: No touchy.
[274.78] Jae: It's not on one of your drones, is it?
[277.78] Jae: I mean...
[278.78] Jae: Oh, man.
[279.78] Jae: There's so many here.
[281.78] Jae: Just a flight.
[282.78] Jack: There's so many here.
[283.78] Jack: It's unreal how many quads are here right now.
[287.78] Jack: I just want to know.
[288.78] Jack: I really, really, really...
[290.78] Jack: Where was that?
[291.78] Jack: I don't know.
[292.78] Jack: Oh, man.
[293.78] Jack: This is torture.
[294.78] Jack: It went off, I think.
[295.78] Jae: Well, you're doing a radio show.
[296.78] Jae: You don't need your phone right now.
[297.78] Jae: I know.
[298.78] Jack: It would be nice.
[299.78] Jae: Comfort.
[300.78] Jae: You're a security blanket of a phone.
[302.78] Jae: It is, I think.
[303.78] Jae: The one thing that this Neil Pringle did read out on the radio
[306.78] Jae: was a user comment that commented in.
[309.78] Jae: It ruffled my feathers a bit.
[311.78] Jae: And he repeated it, and he could have corrected it.
[314.78] Jae: She said, apparently, that she thinks these drones are a bit unethical.
[318.78] Jae: And I was thinking, well, the drones aren't.
[320.78] Jae: They're already putting the actions of people onto the technology,
[324.78] Jae: and that's a mistake a lot of people are saying.
[326.78] Jae: It's not the actual technology that's the unethical thing.
[330.78] Jae: It's the people that are flying them,
[331.78] Jae: if they're flying them into people's backyards when they shouldn't be there.
[334.78] Jae: So, let's look at the ethics of it all.
[338.78] Jack: I don't believe...
[339.78] Jack: I just...
[340.78] Jack: I struggle with it.
[341.78] Jack: It made me really angry.
[342.78] Jack: And, you know, like, they kept bringing this story up
[345.78] Jack: where someone was flying a drone at the memorial day.
[351.78] Jack: Like, you know...
[352.78] Jae: Yeah, it did.
[353.78] Jack: Yeah, and, like, the police had to go over there
[355.78] Jack: and be like, can you please land that?
[357.78] Jack: I mean, what are you...
[358.78] Jack: What kind of f***ing are you?
[360.78] Jack: Like, you're trying to...
[361.78] Jack: People are going to be trying to remember the dead,
[363.78] Jack: and you're, like, flying f***ing quad.
[366.78] Jae: Damn it.
[367.78] Jae: I think that's two ESCs yours now, Jack.
[368.78] Jae: Yeah.
[369.78] Jae: We've got to swear down operations.
[370.78] Jae: Like that.
[371.78] Jae: It's true, not.
[372.78] Jae: Every time Jack swears, he buys us all an ESC.
[375.78] Jae: Oh, no.
[376.78] Jae: A little bee, please.
[378.78] Jae: Yeah, little bees.
[379.78] Jae: They have to be little bees.
[380.78] Jack: Like, what is wrong with you?
[382.78] Jack: Like, what are you thinking?
[384.78] Jack: What?
[385.78] Jack: ESCs?
[386.78] Jack: No.
[387.78] Jae: No, flying.
[388.78] Jack: Yeah, I agree.
[389.78] Jack: They've got one track mind.
[390.78] Jack: They just want stuff.
[391.78] Jae: Yeah.
[392.78] Jae: I agree.
[393.78] Jae: And people need to be, you know, mindful of who's there
[396.78] Jae: and what the context of this place is.
[398.78] Jae: And if the people are having a moment of silence,
[400.78] Jae: they don't want to hear this noise.
[402.78] Tony: No.
[403.78] Tony: Definitely not.
[404.78] Jae: So...
[405.78] Tony: A bit out of order, isn't it?
[406.78] Tony: Someone in America shot their neighbours down
[409.78] Tony: because their wife...
[410.78] Tony: His wife kept moaning, saying that the next little neighbour's flying, flying.
[415.78] Tony: I'm sure he's spying on me, so the guy just shot it down.
[419.78] Jack: They weren't even in the same field.
[422.78] Jack: They were doing aerial observation of crops in the next field over
[429.78] Jack: and it was really, really far away.
[431.78] Jack: What next?
[432.78] Jack: I think he just wanted to shoot the moving gardener.
[434.78] Jack: Yeah, maybe he did.
[435.78] Jack: Yeah.
[436.78] Jack: Like, you know, America, guns.
[437.78] Jack: They love guns.
[438.78] Jack: Oh, they love it, don't they?
[439.78] Jack: Yeah.
[440.78] Jack: You're right.
[441.78] Jack: You know, guns don't kill people.
[443.78] Jack: People kill people.
[444.78] Jack: Yep.
[445.78] Jack: And drones don't spy on people.
[447.78] Jack: You know, they haven't got, like, a little conscience.
[450.78] Jack: They're like...
[451.78] Jack: Not yet.
[452.78] Jack: I wonder what Laura's up to.
[454.78] Jack: You know.
[455.78] Jack: Or Tiffany.
[457.78] Jack: You know.
[458.78] Jack: Or Lulu.
[459.78] Jack: Bees are a good choice, apparently.
[461.78] Jack: Joe.
[462.78] Jack: Like, do you reckon you could spy on anyone with a quad?
[466.78] Jack: Because, like, it's ridiculous.
[468.78] Jack: They're so loud.
[469.78] Jack: So loud.
[470.78] Tony: Well, it depends.
[471.78] Tony: You've got to go high and then you've got to get a zoom camera on,
[473.78] Tony: didn't you?
[474.78] Jae: Yeah.
[475.78] Jae: The flight times of a multi-roader aircraft isn't that long.
[478.78] Jae: So you'd put it up, you'd spy on them,
[480.78] Jae: then you'd have to bring it back down to land to change the battery.
[483.78] Jae: Brad, do you want to read some news?
[485.78] Jae: Oh, yeah, I can in a minute.
[486.78] Jae: We're a bit disheveled tonight, aren't we?
[488.78] Tony: It's terrible tonight.
[489.78] Tony: I don't know what's going on, really.
[491.78] Jack: It's just...
[492.78] Jack: It's the technical difficulties.
[494.78] Jack: The little gremlins.
[495.78] Jack: They got in there.
[496.78] Jack: I'm fixing stuff.
[498.78] Jack: I can't wait to touch Martin.
[500.78] Tony: Gabe sent me some news.
[502.78] Tony: Yep.
[503.78] Tony: He said Hobbyking is now doing free shipping on orders over $150,
[510.78] Tony: this is.
[511.78] Tony: I don't know if it's in the UK.
[513.78] Tony: But with that, they've bumped up all their prices.
[516.78] Tony: So that's not very good, is it?
[517.78] Jack: Yeah, I didn't believe it at first.
[519.78] Jack: Not all of their prices.
[521.78] Jack: Well, some of them.
[522.78] Jack: But the 250 milliwatt, it's like listing ESCs.
[527.78] Jack: Maybe I should go through the Hobbyking list of ESCs.
[530.78] Jack: Maybe I should start all.
[532.78] Jack: Oh, the Blue Series.
[534.78] Jack: And the price, yeah.
[535.78] Jack: The name of the price.
[536.78] Jack: Oh, the Blue Series.
[537.78] Jack: They've gone up 25p.
[538.78] Jack: No.
[539.78] Jack: I remember 25 pound, fat shark, 250 VTX.
[546.78] Jack: How much was it?
[547.78] Jack: 35 pound, free shipping.
[549.78] Jack: And now it's 36 something.
[551.78] Jack: That's a lot, isn't it?
[553.78] Jack: That is a fair few dollars of anyone's money.
[555.78] Tony: Of anyone's money.
[556.78] Jae: You see, every so often, though, they do have sale items that they put up.
[559.78] Jae: So sometimes they do have a lot cheaper things.
[561.78] Jae: And maybe that's their offset.
[563.78] Jae: Maybe they thought, well, if we put them up more often, we can promote more on the sale.
[567.78] Jae: Because I remember getting a Immersion RC Duo video receiver, the 5.8.
[572.78] Jae: And it was dirt cheap compared to everywhere else.
[574.78] Jae: I'd say 50 pounds on it, so.
[577.78] Tony: My Immersion RCs, when I used to fly with them, the 600s.
[581.78] Tony: What were they, 70 pounds?
[584.78] Jack: Well, from the UK, yeah.
[585.78] Jack: Yeah, 70 quid.
[586.78] Jack: They're 40 on that thing.
[588.78] Jack: I think it's 47 pound near 50 quid.
[591.78] Jack: Still not.
[592.78] Jae: Whereas the legal one has gone up.
[594.78] Jae: Yeah, we're talking about legal stuff.
[596.78] Jae: Yeah, 25 milliwatts.
[598.78] Jae: Actually, on that note, last Saturday, I saw a quadrifilia antenna in action on a 10 milliwatt micro transmitter.
[607.78] Jae: And it was doing better than this 25 milliwatt on a standard cleverly setup.
[613.78] Jae: So quadrifilia.
[615.78] Tony: Or jacophilia.
[618.78] Tony: Jacophilia, aerials are even better.
[622.78] Jae: Well, I'm going to try and make one this weekend, I think, and test it out.
[626.78] Jae: I'd like to see that.
[627.78] Tony: I'd like to see that.
[628.78] Tony: Yeah.
[629.78] Jack: Yeah, Joey.
[630.78] Jack: I'd like to see.
[633.78] Tony: Has everyone got their 150s ready and stuff for the 18th?
[637.78] Jack: I'm going to, I might go for a tricopter.
[641.78] Jack: Because I'm mental.
[643.78] Jae: Where is the 18th one?
[646.78] Jae: Whitechapel?
[647.78] Tony: Sorry?
[648.78] Tony: Whitechapel.
[649.78] Jae: But I don't know.
[650.78] Jae: And how many spots are there flying there?
[652.78] Tony: I don't know how many pilots they've got now.
[654.78] Tony: They put out a thing and then they wanted some more.
[657.78] Jae: Wasn't it 67 races to be taken on that date?
[660.78] Jae: What?
[661.78] Jae: Jacophilia sounds like something you'd get arrested for.
[667.78] Jae: I believe, I did see a post from Thomas somewhere.
[671.78] Jae: And I'm pretty sure they said they had 60 odd races to do in one day.
[675.78] Jae: So if you don't turn up for your slot, you've missed it.
[678.78] Jae: He's got a really cute dog.
[681.78] Jae: Yeah, he has actually.
[682.78] Jae: So cute.
[684.78] Tony: 60 races.
[685.78] Tony: You know, I went to the race last weekend and there was 36 of us.
[691.78] Tony: I got there at quarter to nine and my first flight was at 11.30.
[700.78] Tony: So you just sit there for ages.
[702.78] Tony: This is only 36 pilots.
[704.78] Jack: Yeah, but I'm not.
[706.78] Tony: And then I fly for how many seconds?
[709.78] Tony: Three laps.
[710.78] Tony: I was doing it in about 30 seconds.
[713.78] Jack: I'm not being funny.
[714.78] Jack: Tom is very efficient.
[716.78] Jack: Yeah, he is good at what he does.
[718.78] Jack: It's sort of crazy, like crazy efficiency.
[723.78] Jack: Crazy Scottish guy shouting at everyone.
[725.78] Jack: Yeah.
[726.78] Jack: Come on.
[727.78] Jack: Lots of F words.
[728.78] Jack: It's just a Scottish way.
[729.78] Jack: If you want to make some ESCs, put a swear draw in front of him.
[733.78] Tony: I want to know where everyone's flying.
[735.78] Tony: I mean, I'm flying the 150 that day.
[739.78] Jack: Yeah, we're going to sort that out.
[740.78] Jack: We are.
[741.78] Jack: We're going to get going good.
[742.78] Tony: It is awesome anyway, but we are.
[745.78] Jack: You know the quadrifilia.
[746.78] Jack: Are they the weird sort of spiral antenna things?
[751.78] Tony: Jay.
[752.78] Jae: Yeah, they are.
[753.78] Jae: They're like the helix antenna.
[754.78] Jae: Yeah, I know.
[755.78] Jae: Four of them.
[756.78] Jae: And they're apparently very good.
[758.78] Jae: And they emit a proper hemispherical radiation pattern,
[764.78] Jae: which I believe it works.
[765.78] Jae: But I won't get too sciencey because I don't know it.
[768.78] Jae: But I'm interested.
[769.78] Jae: And I want to learn more and do some experiments with it.
[772.78] Tony: So it doesn't form a dome like a donut or whatever,
[775.78] Tony: like the normal antennas.
[777.78] Tony: No.
[778.78] Jae: So obviously, if you're on your side with a donut.
[780.78] Jae: You can tell me it's all about wave patterns.
[782.78] Jae: Sorry.
[783.78] Jae: Whereas if you're on your side with one of these,
[786.78] Jae: you're supposedly going to get more of a signal.
[789.78] Tony: I'd like to see a picture of that wave pattern.
[791.78] Tony: Yeah.
[792.78] Jack: I like the rejection pattern of the three-leaf cloverleaf antenna.
[797.78] Jack: It's the shape of a wiener.
[799.78] Tony: I knew you'd like that.
[802.78] Jack: Do you draw them everywhere, Jack?
[804.78] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[805.78] Jack: Everywhere you can.
[806.78] Jack: I was trying to write a love letter for your parcel
[810.78] Jack: that I still haven't sent.
[811.78] Jack: It's on my floor.
[812.78] Jack: Oh, we've got time tonight.
[814.78] Jack: Yeah.
[815.78] Jack: And the only thing I can think of is writings and, I don't know,
[820.78] Jack: hardcore things.
[821.78] Jack: It's a poem.
[822.78] Jack: Well, excitement with radiation patterns, baby.
[825.78] Jack: Yeah, OK.
[826.78] Jack: I'll do that.
[827.78] Jack: I don't know how I feel of it.
[828.78] Jack: Philia.
[829.78] Jack: Anyway, do you know what?
[830.78] Jack: Back to Hobbyking, right?
[832.78] Jack: Yeah.
[833.78] Jack: Today's video was the Dominator V3s.
[837.78] Jack: OK.
[838.78] Jack: And for some reason, I didn't believe...
[842.78] Jack: I thought the faceplate was connected.
[845.78] Jack: I thought it was standard.
[846.78] Jack: It was locked on.
[847.78] Jack: Yeah, I did.
[848.78] Tony: Why?
[849.78] Tony: Is it not?
[850.78] Jack: It's not.
[851.78] Jack: Really?
[852.78] Jack: Apparently not.
[853.78] Jack: No, you can get the V3 Dominator HDs.
[855.78] Jack: They clip on and off.
[856.78] Jack: And I've seen people with the cases where they're actually all fully built on.
[861.78] Jack: What is...
[862.78] Jack: You know the guys from Aerial GP?
[864.78] Jack: He had one and it was all one unit.
[867.78] Tony: Is anyone going to buy the V3?
[869.78] Jack: I want to.
[870.78] Jack: Why?
[871.78] Jack: Because my goggles are full of dust.
[873.78] Jack: That's the only thing you can say.
[874.78] Jack: OK.
[875.78] Tony: What's better?
[876.78] Tony: I've tried hoovering mine out once.
[877.78] Tony: Any good?
[878.78] Tony: Yeah, see, it sucks some off then.
[880.78] Tony: Oh, all right.
[881.78] Tony: So try that.
[883.78] Jack: Is that made out of copper pipe?
[885.78] Jae: Well, that's a larger quadrifilia antenna.
[888.78] Jae: The last one that was up there, credit to the canvas, which you can see at the ThursdayNightShow.com.
[892.78] Jae: Jordan's in the chat room.
[894.78] Jae: Yeah, it's the smaller one.
[896.78] Jae: That is a massive one.
[897.78] Jae: And Gareth said, Gareth, hello.
[899.78] Jae: He said there's 30 spots or so for 67 races for the 18th.
[903.78] Jae: So I was right in the 67, 30 spots.
[905.78] Jack: Who's...
[906.78] Jack: I mean...
[907.78] Jack: Hmm?
[908.78] Jack: I asked Gareth, when do we know if we're in or not?
[912.78] Jack: Ah, well, Gareth's probably heard that, so you did take the ask of yourself.
[916.78] Jack: But anyway, you know, like, Hobbyking was doing all this sort of singing and dancing
[920.78] Jack: where, like, we've just got the V3s and, like, you know, they've just been released.
[924.78] Jack: They haven't.
[925.78] Jack: They've been in our sponsor shop, First Person View, for quite a while now.
[929.78] Jack: Ooh.
[930.78] Jack: And that was it.
[931.78] Jack: That's what I was trying to get at.
[932.78] Jack: Carry on, Jay.
[933.78] Jae: Oh, no, no.
[934.78] Jae: I was just, like, lusting over antennas.
[935.78] Tony: I want to know the difference between the V2 and V3.
[938.78] Tony: Can anyone tell me?
[939.78] Jack: It's new.
[940.78] Jack: I'll Google it.
[941.78] Tony: It's minimal, isn't it?
[942.78] Jack: No, actually, money penny.
[945.78] Jack: Money penny.
[946.78] Jack: You don't want me to read out stats.
[948.78] Jack: You weren't there last week.
[949.78] Jack: I would do that, but I do.
[950.78] Jae: We have to live up to our namesake of let's drain out.
[953.78] Jae: Maybe you should do that towards the end.
[954.78] Jack: The only thing I know for definite, and I'm not too sure on it...
[960.78] Tony: Definite, but not too sure.
[962.78] Jack: I like that.
[963.78] Jack: It's a dual composite lens.
[968.78] Jack: I think that's right.
[969.78] Jack: I think that's what they said.
[971.78] Jack: Two separate materials, glass and plastic.
[973.78] Jack: I can't remember what they called it.
[974.78] Jack: They had a little funny little name for it.
[977.78] Jack: See, if you'd asked me, if we'd started the show earlier in the year,
[981.78] Jack: I would have known because the video would be more recent.
[985.78] Tony: The only thing that I would like about them is when I'm recording my DVR footage
[991.78] Tony: because you can just pull the battery out on the V3.
[994.78] Tony: Yeah, it's got a little capacitor.
[995.78] Tony: It holds the charge.
[996.78] Tony: It will hold the charge.
[999.78] Tony: How many times have I recorded on my DVR
[1002.78] Tony: and then just gone and ripped the plug out to save me battery
[1006.78] Tony: when I've landed and then thought, oh, beep.
[1009.78] Tony: I've lost all that footage.
[1011.78] Tony: So that's the only good thing I can think of.
[1014.78] Tony: I mean, they're not going to be...
[1016.78] Tony: Why do they call them HD as well?
[1018.78] Tony: They're not HD, are they?
[1020.78] Jack: No, they're not.
[1021.78] Jack: Joe, are you still there?
[1023.78] UNKNOWN: Joe?
[1024.78] Jae: Oh, I think I've had some Skype issues just to continue the technical difficulties
[1029.78] Jae: of experiencing that.
[1030.78] Jae: Yeah, I'm still here, mate.
[1031.78] Jae: I'd like to start recording my videos to see where I lose signal and stuff.
[1036.78] Jae: I just haven't actually invested in a DVR really.
[1039.78] Jae: I think they're a good thing to have.
[1041.78] Tony: Yeah, have you not got any goggles with DVR?
[1044.78] Tony: Do you fly with goggles on your...
[1047.78] Jae: Well, not on my larger one.
[1049.78] Jae: No, it's just a screen because I like to be able to just reference
[1052.78] Jae: where the aircraft is.
[1053.78] MULTIPLE: Deep looking out.
[1054.78] Jae: I've got some El Jupo Quantum.
[1057.78] Jae: But the V2, they work all right.
[1060.78] Jae: And essentially, I could take a video out of that and record on something.
[1064.78] Jae: But I don't have anything set up at the moment.
[1066.78] Jae: So I could record to my laptop.
[1068.78] Jae: I did a live stream once from a...
[1071.78] Jae: Essentially, it's a DVR.
[1073.78] Jae: But the internet on my phone was pretty patchy where I was.
[1076.78] Jae: So I only uploaded it in stops and starts.
[1078.78] Jae: But I think that's on my YouTube channel on YouTube.
[1082.78] Jae: So, yeah, why not use YouTube as your DVR in the future?
[1086.78] Tony: Good idea.
[1087.78] Jae: Yeah.
[1088.78] Jack: Mike, I'm just on a website and it lists features.
[1095.78] Jack: And basically, the only different feature is it's got the HDMI port at the moment.
[1099.78] Jack: That's the only thing I can find out.
[1101.78] Tony: V2's have got a HDMI port, a mini one.
[1103.78] Jack: Oh, well, I'll shut my face then.
[1106.78] Tony: Because I've linked up my Phantom 3 to my goggles.
[1112.78] Tony: Because I had a HDMI out on my huddy, which is my little tablet.
[1117.78] Tony: I had HDMI out.
[1118.78] Tony: And then I went from there out to a box, which converts the signal from RCA to HDMI.
[1126.78] Tony: And then I put that in.
[1127.78] Tony: And then I got a picture to my goggles.
[1131.78] Jack: Niko's downstairs.
[1132.78] Jack: Do you want to let me in or should I?
[1134.78] Tony: I'll go if you want.
[1135.78] Jack: Yeah, just press the buzzer and it'll push the door.
[1138.78] Jack: Right, I have put a link in the description.
[1141.78] Jae: You have.
[1144.7] Jae: Let me have a look.
[1145.7] Jack: Yep.
[1146.7] Jack: And it is for RC groups.
[1151.7] Jack: And it's got the Dominator V2, V3s.
[1156.7] Jack: And it's got the interview.
[1158.7] Jack: If you look down, Team Legit interview with the guys at Fat Shark.
[1162.7] Jack: And that plate was built in.
[1164.7] Jack: I don't care what anyone says.
[1167.7] Jae: Yeah, there's a few videos on the next window.
[1171.7] Jack: Yep.
[1172.7] Jack: This is all old information as well.
[1175.7] Jack: Damn it.
[1176.7] Jae: And this.
[1177.7] Jae: Yeah.
[1178.7] Jack: Is it estimating the cost?
[1180.7] Jack: It's too new.
[1181.7] Jack: Where's the information?
[1182.7] Jack: Is there a website?
[1183.7] Jack: FatShark.com.
[1184.7] Jack: Who knows?
[1185.7] Jack: Let's find out.
[1186.7] Jack: Hey, Niko's here.
[1188.7] Tony: Niko's here.
[1189.7] Jae: Gareth gave us an update.
[1190.7] Jae: If you filled in your form for the 18th and didn't get sign up.
[1196.7] Jae: If they filled in the form and didn't get signed up, it's closed, then they're in.
[1201.7] Jae: Yeah, so if you didn't get a closed sign when you're signing up, you're in.
[1204.7] Jae: You're flying.
[1205.7] Jae: Oh, wow.
[1206.7] Jae: Get your triacoptic ready.
[1207.7] Jack: I might have signed up twice if that's the case.
[1212.7] Jack: Oh, dear.
[1213.7] Tony: Well, you can fly two different things then, can you?
[1215.7] Tony: Yeah.
[1217.7] Jack: Come over here, Niko.
[1218.7] Jack: I need to know something.
[1220.7] MULTIPLE: I want to sit down.
[1223.7] Jack: I need to know what you're doing this weekend.
[1228.7] Jack: Are you staying in Brighton or are you coming at the Fossil Stuff meet?
[1232.7] Jack: Tony, what time are we leaving to go to the Fossil Stuff meet?
[1236.7] Jack: What time do I have to be at yours?
[1237.7] Tony: Johnny said we've got to be there half seven in the morning.
[1240.7] Jack: Oh, Johnny.
[1242.7] Tony: Johnny, you're having a laugh.
[1245.7] Tony: He's super eager, old Banton.
[1247.7] Tony: He'll be there running around like endless chicken.
[1249.7] Jack: No, he'll be flying a plane.
[1251.7] Jack: It's like a flight test with him.
[1254.7] Jack: Hello, my name's Johnny Vanton and I'm with Alex.
[1259.7] Jack: Is that how we speak?
[1260.7] Jack: No, totally not how he speaks.
[1263.7] Jack: I'm on the Fat Shark.
[1264.7] Jack: Do you know what?
[1265.7] Jack: FatShark.com is FatShark.com.
[1269.7] Jack: Use your mic stand, then I'll plug you in.
[1274.7] Jack: Poor Niko is looking at me like, are you switching on?
[1278.7] Jack: I'm like, no.
[1279.7] Jack: No.
[1281.7] Jack: I'm looking, the Dominator 32.
[1283.7] Jack: Jay, all goggles have you got?
[1285.7] Jack: Do you run goggles?
[1287.7] Jae: Yeah.
[1288.7] Jae: I basically sat on the Hobbyking webpage thinking, well, I wanted some goggles
[1291.7] Jae: because they're more immersive, aren't they?
[1293.7] Jae: And I sat there and I got the cheaper V2.
[1295.7] Jae: Because I bought a V1, but I used the screen for something else and then fried it.
[1298.7] Jae: So I bought, I upgraded, bought the V2s.
[1301.7] Jae: They're about £40, which is bargain for a screen anyway and a camera switcher
[1307.7] Jae: and all the, you know, the stuff that went with it.
[1309.7] Jae: They seem to work okay.
[1310.7] Jae: I haven't sort of fully fitted them out with the foam padding you get.
[1315.7] Jae: But I was looking the other day that I think someone's modified.
[1320.7] Jae: It looks like a Quantum V1 or V2 to make a 3D stereoscopic
[1325.7] Jae: and fully immersive wide field of view goggles quite simply.
[1329.7] Jae: They show you a video of where they're making it all.
[1331.7] Jae: So I'm going to look into some more of that and see if I can hack one together.
[1335.7] Jae: So you get 3D stereoscopic from two screens off two hacked together Quantum's.
[1343.7] Jae: So 80 quid essentially, plus parts, maybe 100 quid.
[1346.7] Jae: That's a bargain and potentially because the trouble with the Quantum at the moment
[1350.7] Jae: is they're not very close to your eyes.
[1352.7] Jae: And I know you get this a little bit with some of the fact sharks
[1354.7] Jae: where it's still a bit distant from your view.
[1357.7] Jae: Yeah, it's in front of your eyes, but it's not fully wrapping around your eyes.
[1361.7] Jae: So that's what this is looking to do to make it where it's, you know.
[1365.7] Jae: Oh, and the other thing they said was when you take off the goggles,
[1369.7] Jae: because this is for walking around, the objects in the 3D space would be the same size.
[1374.7] Jae: Because you take off goggles and it only matters if it's in low,
[1378.7] Jae: where your eyes are essentially seeing, but it's an interesting development.
[1381.7] Jae: So my Quantum's don't feel so cheap after all.
[1383.7] Jae: They look like they can be hacked together to something a bit more awesome.
[1386.7] Tony: Awesome.
[1387.7] Jae: Yeah.
[1389.7] Tony: I have tried them on.
[1390.7] Tony: It's just like sitting right near a cinema screen.
[1393.7] Jae: And they're heavy. They're heavy.
[1395.7] Jae: So the Frenzel lens, you can change them and get them so that it looks a bit closer up,
[1399.7] Jae: but you'll get blurring around the edges if you do.
[1402.7] Jack: I've, who's, is it another Dave, but not Dave, you know the, or was it Ben?
[1409.7] Jack: I think it was Ben.
[1411.7] Tony: Ben's got some, yeah.
[1412.7] Jack: Yeah, Ben, that's it, Ben.
[1414.7] Jack: He put some bender, the robot eyeballs on front of his quantum's, which is highly amusing.
[1422.7] MULTIPLE: There's a top tip.
[1425.7] Jack: Jack providing useful technical information.
[1429.7] Tony: And we've been told by fossil stuff, we've got to be there.
[1434.7] Tony: Tell Jack he needs to be up at six.
[1437.7] Tony: Six?
[1438.7] Tony: Up at six or fossils at six.
[1441.7] Jack: This anti-ravity, anti, that's not how you spell.
[1446.7] Jack: Obviously Windows computers don't have spell check.
[1451.7] Jack: Despite the fact that you need your beauty sleep, Jack, I reckon you and Tony should leave early.
[1457.7] Tony: We will.
[1458.7] Tony: No.
[1459.7] Tony: We'll get there when we get there.
[1462.7] Tony: I've got a golden cookie and everyone pasties in there, not tomorrow night.
[1466.7] Jack: You've got a little thing and you want to be the wife, not Nico.
[1470.7] MULTIPLE: I'm moving in.
[1472.7] MULTIPLE: Yeah, but I'm moving in those positions.
[1475.7] Jack: Fighting for the death of me.
[1477.7] Jack: I think a big pit.
[1479.7] Jack: It's not going to become a novelty.
[1481.7] Jack: They are delicious.
[1483.7] Jack: Thank you.
[1484.7] Jack: I've got a bit of Jack generated news.
[1487.7] Jack: If you go on Alex Grieve, which is I'd be crazy, Alex Grieve on YouTube, he released yesterday a video explaining how to tune your PIDs,
[1499.7] Jack: which was very, very good.
[1501.7] Jack: Oh, that's nice.
[1502.7] Jack: Thank you.
[1503.7] Jack: Or you could just install the black box feature with an open log or buy the red.
[1509.7] Jae: But that doesn't necessarily help you with the flight characteristics, does it?
[1513.7] Jack: Well, you know your oscillations on your and...
[1516.7] Jack: Okay, yeah.
[1517.7] Jack: Which plane?
[1518.7] Jack: Next and why?
[1521.7] Tony: Shout out to Bruce Holland, one of our listeners in Florida.
[1526.7] Jack: Hello, Nico. How are you doing?
[1527.7] Jack: I am okay.
[1529.7] Jack: Can I keep talking so I can chip your sound?
[1532.7] Jack: Yeah, it's good to be here, finally.
[1535.7] Tony: Talk about your gravity and it's nearly up and running, but you've lost a motor, didn't you?
[1539.7] Niko: The brake dancing gravity.
[1541.7] Niko: Yeah, it wasn't a motor in the end. It was an ESC.
[1544.7] Jack: Oh, speed control.
[1545.7] Jae: No, those pesky ESCs.
[1546.7] Jae: Damn things.
[1547.7] Niko: I'm going to name brands.
[1548.7] Niko: I don't want this.
[1549.7] Niko: Sorry, I can't help myself.
[1552.7] Jack: I can't help myself.
[1554.7] Jack: It must have just been from a so-called bad batch.
[1557.7] Jack: Yeah, it's really difficult.
[1560.7] Jack: Guys, can I ask you a question?
[1562.7] Jack: Do you ever send your ESCs back?
[1567.7] Tony: I have.
[1568.7] Tony: I've sent four back.
[1570.7] Tony: I've got four...
[1571.7] Jack: From who?
[1572.7] Jack: What company?
[1573.7] Tony: Um...
[1576.7] Tony: I can't remember.
[1579.7] Jae: Because I...
[1581.7] Jae: Mine was...
[1582.7] Jae: Sorry, Jack, mine was to Timecop, actually.
[1586.7] Jae: Wow.
[1587.7] Jae: And who replaced it?
[1589.7] Jae: Wow.
[1590.7] Jae: Customer service.
[1591.7] Jae: I'm impressed.
[1592.7] Jae: Someone's still running base for it.
[1597.7] MULTIPLE: It was years ago.
[1598.7] Jae: It was years ago.
[1599.7] Jae: It was multiple days, really.
[1601.7] Jae: Yeah, who?
[1602.7] Tony: I can't remember her bloody name.
[1604.7] Tony: It was for 20 amps on the case.
[1607.7] Jack: I can't remember.
[1608.7] Jack: Oh, what?
[1609.7] Jack: Are they from RC Geeks, weren't they?
[1610.7] Tony: No, no, no.
[1611.7] Tony: They were from...
[1612.7] Tony: Not Make It, Build It, Build Your Own Drone, I think.
[1617.7] Jack: I'm impressed.
[1618.7] Tony: And they just took them back.
[1619.7] Tony: And they come from America and they have to send them back there.
[1622.7] Tony: I had to do a little video of what happened.
[1624.7] Tony: So I done that, sent it to them.
[1626.7] Tony: They looked at it and said,
[1627.7] Tony: Yeah, it's not your fault.
[1629.7] Tony: I'm sober and send them back to what I did.
[1631.7] Jack: Yeah, but I have to cut...
[1632.7] Jack: You cut the wires.
[1634.7] Tony: I didn't do mine.
[1635.7] Tony: Mine were bullets.
[1636.7] Tony: If you cut the wires, I don't think you can probably send them back.
[1639.7] Jack: That's what I mean.
[1640.7] Jack: They have to be edited.
[1641.7] Jack: And I've just...
[1642.7] Jack: I've seen some sloppy effects,
[1645.7] Jack: which Dan Upton's coming round tonight.
[1648.7] Jack: That's very exciting.
[1649.7] Jack: Speaking of which,
[1650.7] Jack: shall we phone Antigravity to give on the old speakerphone?
[1654.7] Jack: Yeah.
[1655.7] Jack: I think we should.
[1656.7] Jack: I need some technical support.
[1657.7] Jack: I don't know about you guys.
[1658.7] Jack: Carry on.
[1659.7] Jack: Oh, I need technical support.
[1660.7] Jack: We need lots of technical support.
[1663.7] Jack: Apparently some company doesn't sell...
[1666.7] Jack: Do you know what?
[1667.7] Jack: I'm really annoyed.
[1668.7] Jack: I'm annoyed.
[1669.7] Jack: Again.
[1670.7] Jack: Nothing new.
[1671.7] Jack: You know FatShart?
[1672.7] Jack: FatShart.com?
[1673.7] Jack: Yeah.
[1675.7] Jack: They do not list...
[1677.7] Jack: On their headsets, they do not list the V3s.
[1682.7] Jack: They don't list it.
[1683.7] Jack: Here, I'm going to post a link.
[1685.7] Jack: I'll just approve it's not my Apple computer.
[1690.7] Jack: Again.
[1691.7] Jack: Again.
[1693.7] Jack: Again.
[1695.7] Jack: Let's find out whether it works better on Mac or PC.
[1700.7] Jack: I've got a new kiss from Arduino
[1702.7] Jack: because they burnt like crazy.
[1705.7] Jack: Yeah, I think it works.
[1706.7] Jack: Yeah, actually I complained once,
[1708.7] Jack: took a photo and they sent me some new ones.
[1710.7] Jack: Who's that kiss?
[1711.7] Jack: No.
[1712.7] Jack: Fly Arduino.
[1713.7] Jack: Oh.
[1716.75] Jack: Mr. Thruss.
[1717.75] Jack: All right, lads.
[1718.75] Jack: Got any thoughts or experiences
[1719.75] Jack: with the new 40 channel VTX raceband?
[1723.75] Jack: I have.
[1726.75] Jack: And I know none of you have.
[1727.75] Jack: No.
[1728.75] Tony: Unfortunately.
[1729.75] Tony: But Oscar Lang was flying with us
[1732.75] Tony: and he was flying with one.
[1733.75] Jack: No.
[1735.75] UNKNOWN: Hang on.
[1736.75] Jack: Mr. Jack has got the...
[1738.75] Jack: I'm not going to say what milliwatt it is,
[1740.75] Jack: but the Emergen RC raceband.
[1743.75] Jack: And I don't care.
[1744.75] Jack: I emailed Tony, Anthony from Emergen RC personally.
[1748.75] MULTIPLE: Very.
[1749.75] Jack: Because obviously I've got his email address.
[1751.75] Jack: And admittedly I'm not as good friends
[1753.75] Jack: as the technician at First Person View.
[1758.75] Jack: Weren't mentioning Dan.
[1761.75] Jack: Dan at First Person View who got a free vortex
[1764.75] Jack: and a barbecue around his house.
[1766.75] Jack: What a guy.
[1767.75] Jack: Come around.
[1768.75] Jack: Eat my food.
[1769.75] Jack: Here's a quad.
[1770.75] Jack: I emailed him and he said they are available in the UK.
[1775.75] Jack: And the only ones I could find who had the raceband
[1778.75] Jack: were First Person View
[1780.75] Jack: and they had the 25 milliwatt raceband.
[1783.75] Tony: And can we get that now?
[1785.75] Tony: Can we buy it at First Person View?
[1786.75] Jack: Yep.
[1787.75] Jack: You can buy it at First Person View.
[1789.75] Jack: But that's only 25 milliwatt.
[1791.75] Jack: This, on the other hand...
[1793.75] Tony: Is a bit larger-ish.
[1795.75] Jack: Maybe.
[1796.75] Jack: No.
[1797.75] Jack: Well, it might not be.
[1798.75] Jack: Of course not.
[1799.75] Jack: We fly with legal parameters everywhere.
[1800.75] Jack: Offcom.
[1801.75] Jack: Of course.
[1802.75] Jack: Offcom.
[1803.75] Jack: We are good, upstanding citizens
[1804.75] Jack: and we encourage...
[1806.75] Jack: Jay, you talk.
[1807.75] Jack: You've done a bee-knock.
[1808.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1810.75] Jae: Help.
[1811.75] Jae: They do now check to see what output your transmitter is putting.
[1815.75] Jae: So even if you're hiding in the airframe, they do check.
[1817.75] Jae: Or at least they tell you that they can.
[1819.75] Jae: If you show them the label, they pretty much won't.
[1822.75] Jae: It's a shame it's so low on 5.8.
[1826.75] Jae: But it should actually heavily go up.
[1828.75] Jae: I mean, there was even talk of making it a proper channel
[1832.75] Jae: for video transmissions from the air, for these sort of things.
[1835.75] Jae: And I think in a road map where Europe is trying
[1838.75] Jae: to move towards things like this will become easier
[1841.75] Jae: to perhaps get through Offcom for new channels
[1844.75] Jae: that is more dedicated, better penetration.
[1846.75] Jae: You know, there's...
[1847.75] Jae: Sort of that penetration.
[1849.75] Jae: So, yeah, we're legal.
[1851.75] Jae: It's a shame it's not going up sooner
[1853.75] Jae: because then we can at least fly illegally with other stuff.
[1855.75] Jae: I...
[1856.75] Jae: Rather than testing it.
[1857.75] Jack: Me and Nico both have a 25-milliwatt VTX.
[1862.75] Jack: Yeah.
[1863.75] Jack: Yeah.
[1864.75] Jack: We seem to be the only people we know.
[1868.75] Tony: I've seen 10-milliwatt go far, you know, on planes.
[1872.75] Tony: I've seen them on YouTube.
[1873.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1874.75] Jae: 10-mill.
[1875.75] Jae: I've never even heard that.
[1876.75] Tony: Well, this is often the antenna.
[1877.75] Tony: Yeah, that's what they say.
[1878.75] Tony: The antenna does most of the work.
[1880.75] Jae: No, the antenna's...
[1882.75] Jae: First person view of being always saying you need a clean setup
[1885.75] Jae: and you need to be, you know, mindful of interference
[1888.75] Jae: from other things and all sorts of things.
[1890.75] Jae: So, you can achieve a lot with a better setup, but...
[1894.75] Niko: But I suppose if you're in the air...
[1895.75] Niko: It's not always easy.
[1896.75] Niko: If you're in the air with loads of other people who are on
[1898.75] Niko: either equal or stronger milliwatts, then that does affect things greatly.
[1905.75] Jack: Yeah.
[1906.75] Jack: I mean, 600 milliwatt, you just don't get a signal.
[1908.75] Jack: Yeah.
[1909.75] Jack: It's just black out, brown out.
[1911.75] Jack: Yeah.
[1912.75] Jack: It's just completely black.
[1914.75] Jack: What, then?
[1915.75] Tony: I tried.
[1916.75] Tony: The new...
[1917.75] Jack: Is it going to tell you what?
[1918.75] Jack: Are you not meant to be talking about that?
[1919.75] Jack: You know that.
[1920.75] Jack: Well, yeah.
[1921.75] Jack: You are.
[1923.75] Jack: You are not meant to be talking about that.
[1927.75] MULTIPLE: And in the news...
[1929.75] Jack: We didn't say who's making that.
[1931.75] MULTIPLE: In the news, there is...
[1933.75] MULTIPLE: It's just the air concept.
[1934.75] MULTIPLE: ...cord copters that are planting trees.
[1937.75] Jae: That's true, they are planting trees.
[1939.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1940.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1941.75] Jae: I think that's a fantastic idea.
[1942.75] Tony: Really good.
[1943.75] Tony: It's places you can't get to and stuff.
[1945.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1946.75] Jae: I mean, I think it's an ex-NASA scientist that was doing it,
[1950.75] Jae: just realising they could fire these pods into the ground
[1952.75] Jae: that had the nutrients in it,
[1954.75] Jae: and they could just fly over a pre-mapped,
[1956.75] Jae: autonomous place and put them in their optimal position.
[1958.75] Jae: It's a fantastic idea.
[1959.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1960.75] Jae: Brilliant.
[1961.75] Jae: I like that.
[1962.75] Jae: Yeah.
[1963.75] Tony: Yeah.
[1964.75] Tony: So, why don't they put that in the news?
[1965.75] Jae: Well, they don't because they want...
[1967.75] Jae: People want regulation or they want something to fight against
[1969.75] Jae: and unfortunately, they're picking these things
[1973.75] Jae: because idiots can pick them up and fly them in stupid ways.
[1976.75] Jack: Seems like he's smart enough to turn his phone off.
[1980.75] Tony: Are we not calling him?
[1982.75] Jack: No, I tried.
[1983.75] Jack: He's turned his phone off.
[1984.75] Jack: He knows.
[1985.75] Jack: He's on the show.
[1987.75] Jack: Oh, talk about the canvas.
[1990.75] Jack: What?
[1991.75] Jack: What the hell?
[1992.75] Jack: There's someone with what looks to be a helmet
[1996.75] Jack: with like three different... four?
[1998.75] Jack: Four different lenses?
[1999.75] Niko: It's like something out of Splinter Cell.
[2001.75] Jack: Or Halo.
[2002.75] Jack: Weird.
[2003.75] Jack: Antenna.
[2004.75] Jack: See, my argument is, right, from what I know,
[2007.75] Jack: Antenna's a third down the list of importance.
[2012.75] Jack: Of like clear video transmission.
[2015.75] Niko: What's your ranking then?
[2018.75] Jack: Well, obviously, milliwatt is a big thing.
[2020.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2023.75] Jack: And then you'll...
[2027.75] Jack: Then it's...
[2028.75] Jack: So that's your transmitter.
[2029.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2030.75] Jack: And then how good your receiver is.
[2032.75] Jack: And then how good your antennas are.
[2034.75] Jae: Okay.
[2036.75] Jae: Whereas, you know, if you double the power,
[2038.75] Jae: you only get half the range again.
[2040.75] Jae: You don't double the range.
[2041.75] Jae: So it's...
[2043.75] Jae: Yeah.
[2044.75] Jae: It's relational.
[2045.75] Jae: But I'd heard the other way around.
[2047.75] Jae: Often your antenna design and how good a signal you can put out.
[2051.75] Jae: And often then what direction.
[2053.75] Jae: So it's different if you're flying a plane
[2054.75] Jae: where you don't need as wide a band.
[2059.75] Jae: Whereas on a quad, you're flying in a much different way
[2062.75] Jae: and it's all over the place, sometimes flying around you
[2065.75] Jae: or so in relation to the aircraft.
[2067.75] Jae: And that's why antennas are often overlooked
[2069.75] Jae: in thinking they don't actually make a better signal.
[2071.75] Jae: But technically, the antenna is what's giving you the signal
[2073.75] Jae: in the first place over the power of it.
[2075.75] Niko: Technically, when you flip, does that change
[2078.75] Niko: the polarization of your antenna?
[2081.75] Niko: Well, for a slight second.
[2083.75] Niko: Well, yeah.
[2084.75] Niko: It does.
[2085.75] Jack: The horizon, yeah.
[2086.75] Jack: Oh, Martin's listening in.
[2087.75] Jack: Martin.
[2088.75] Jack: Hi, Martin.
[2089.75] Jack: I need to...
[2090.75] Jack: I need to talk to you so bad.
[2093.75] Jack: Lists of winches.
[2094.75] Jack: I want a blank top plate for Tony.
[2099.75] Jack: I want to laser cut out my own GoPro straps.
[2105.75] Jack: I want to talk about the position of the video transmitter
[2110.75] Jack: inside the top plate, the gravity.
[2112.75] Jack: And I tried to find screws.
[2113.75] Jack: I just think it will make a little bit amending.
[2115.75] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[2116.75] Jae: Well, your design changed that you do it slightly differently
[2119.75] Jae: for the VX.
[2120.75] Jae: Yeah.
[2121.75] Jae: Yeah.
[2122.75] Jae: No, I just said I was on this website
[2123.75] Jae: trying to find some screws for the fossil I've got.
[2127.75] Jack: They are on fossil.
[2128.75] Jack: Are they on the website?
[2129.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2130.75] Jae: Are they?
[2131.75] Jae: Yeah.
[2132.75] Tony: Okay, I'll double check.
[2133.75] Tony: I think he put out some red ones,
[2134.75] Tony: 10 red ones, limited edition red ones.
[2136.75] Tony: Yeah.
[2137.75] Tony: They look quite nice.
[2138.75] Jack: I think they're all gold.
[2139.75] Jack: I want an all black one.
[2140.75] Tony: Yeah, I'd like an all blue one.
[2142.75] Tony: But then I like the white in between ones.
[2144.75] Tony: Oh, nice.
[2145.75] Tony: Yeah.
[2146.75] Jack: LC filters, boys, if you want to talk about that in a sec.
[2150.75] Jack: Sorry, Jay.
[2151.75] Jack: No, no.
[2152.75] Jack: No, come on, Jay.
[2153.75] Jack: Someone like the sound of that little Australian voice.
[2155.75] Jack: Can we tell?
[2156.75] Jack: She's my voice.
[2157.75] Jack: Can we tell?
[2158.75] Jack: No.
[2159.75] Tony: We have sent your fossil stuff.
[2162.75] Tony: He knows.
[2163.75] Tony: We've sent it today.
[2164.75] Tony: Yeah, it's gone.
[2165.75] Jack: I lost.
[2166.75] Jack: It's flying.
[2167.75] Jack: At least we made sure that it included everything.
[2169.75] Jack: And we didn't leave it.
[2170.75] Tony: Yeah, that's why it was a bit delayed.
[2172.75] Tony: Yeah.
[2173.75] Jae: Jack Martin says he thinks the horizon will overcome the VTX
[2176.75] Jae: problems on the gravity.
[2177.75] Jae: So.
[2178.75] Jack: Oh, okay.
[2180.75] Jack: We need to try one then.
[2181.75] Jae: Yup.
[2182.75] Jack: Who doesn't?
[2183.75] Jack: Martin, if I bring my home base kit, I would like to build to annoy
[2191.75] Jack: anti-gravity and bring him back to reality.
[2194.75] Jack: And I want to sit there and build a whole quad.
[2199.75] Jack: So if you can, Tony's got some ESCs.
[2203.75] Tony: I think Martin's doing a whole lot.
[2206.75] Jack: Martin, can you, how about you provide me with something?
[2210.75] Jack: I'm going to sit there and build for the first half.
[2213.75] Jack: I'm going to build Tony a quad.
[2214.75] Jack: Because me and Tony, we're very left out sometimes, you know,
[2217.75] Jack: because we're not part of the Facebook posse.
[2219.75] Jack: Well, we are now.
[2220.75] Jack: You know, yeah.
[2221.75] Jack: We've joined because of you.
[2222.75] Jack: We have joined because of you.
[2223.75] Jack: You have brought us to Facebook.
[2225.75] Tony: Disaster.
[2226.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2227.75] Tony: I hate it already.
[2228.75] Jack: And I like sitting there in the Facebook chat, chatting away,
[2232.75] Jack: abusing Windows technical support and then copying and pasting my
[2237.75] Jack: whole chat into Google.
[2242.75] Jack: So if you subscribe to the, um, if you join Google Plus and join the
[2248.75] Jack: community of Let's Drone Out and, uh, yeah.
[2253.75] Tony: And South East Mini Quad Flies.
[2257.75] Tony: Yeah.
[2258.75] Tony: Racers.
[2259.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2262.03] Jack: We'll race you.
[2263.03] Jack: I don't know how long it takes you.
[2265.03] Jack: So you can get the fasted air fastest.
[2272.03] Jack: Oh, it's a challenge.
[2273.03] Jack: Oh.
[2274.03] Jack: A challenge.
[2275.03] MULTIPLE: A challenge.
[2276.03] Jack: Just bring a Mac and do that.
[2278.03] Jack: I will.
[2279.03] MULTIPLE: I will.
[2280.03] Jack: Boys, tomorrow I'm going to go down the Apple store and get me some Apple stickers,
[2286.03] Jack: I think.
[2287.03] MULTIPLE: I've got a plaster in it.
[2290.03] MULTIPLE: Yeah.
[2291.03] Jack: I'm going to be like a dog who's just moved out and needed to mark some territory.
[2295.03] Jack: I tell you that now.
[2298.03] Tony: Boys, anything for the last four minutes?
[2300.03] Tony: You can have to have a build off.
[2301.03] Tony: I am.
[2302.03] Tony: I am going to absolutely.
[2303.03] Tony: You have to have a time lapse build off.
[2305.03] Jack: See, the thing is right, soldering, right, you can do the world of good, right,
[2311.03] Jack: when you're not using solder that is for lead pipes to solder it together for
[2318.03] Jack: water.
[2319.03] Jack: Yeah.
[2320.03] Jack: I'd like to point that out.
[2321.03] Jack: Multicore.
[2322.03] Jack: Multicore.
[2323.03] Jack: Multicore.
[2324.03] Jack: You know, flux is all well and good, but it doesn't help the initial flow.
[2328.03] Jack: You know what I mean?
[2331.03] Jae: I'm not a massive fan of the lead free solder either.
[2335.03] Jae: No.
[2336.03] Jae: Tin solder is crumbly.
[2338.03] Jae: Yeah, it doesn't flow as easy.
[2341.03] Jae: And I think that's the thing.
[2342.03] Jae: If you're building these things yourself, you kind of want to make sure it's got a
[2345.03] Jae: good connection.
[2346.03] Jae: It's not going to, you know, break over the vibrations these things get.
[2351.03] Jae: We already know that screws work themselves loose through the vibrations.
[2354.03] Jae: So obviously there's shock on it all and all aspects.
[2357.03] Jae: And a tip on the shock stuff is often put hot glue behind some of your connectors
[2361.03] Jae: on your boards, like the USB one stuff or any of the fragile ones.
[2366.03] Jae: Yes.
[2367.03] Jae: These things go through a lot of, you know, a lot of pressure and shock.
[2370.03] Jack: And the crystals on your video camera for your FPV.
[2379.03] Jack: They've got little crystals.
[2380.03] Jack: Yeah.
[2381.03] Tony: I had a fat shock camera what went.
[2384.03] Tony: Yeah.
[2385.03] Tony: It was a crystal.
[2386.03] Tony: Too much vibration.
[2387.03] Tony: Yeah.
[2388.03] Tony: Yep.
[2389.03] Tony: I changed motors.
[2390.03] Tony: I changed everything, propellers and everything.
[2393.03] Tony: And then realized it was a camera.
[2395.03] Tony: Should have done the camera first.
[2396.03] Jack: Aaron says, make sure you don't buy cheap solder from China.
[2401.03] Jack: That stuff flows like clay does.
[2406.03] Jae: That's racist.
[2408.03] Jae: No, I mean, well, actually lava doesn't flow very quickly, but it does flow.
[2413.03] Jae: If it's heated up anyway.
[2415.03] Jack: Right.
[2416.03] Jack: Keep in the skies.
[2417.03] Jack: Thank you for tuning in.
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[2425.03] Jack: Thank you very much.
[2426.03] Jack: I have been Jack.
[2427.03] Jack: Thank you.
[2428.03] Jack: Bright til I fly.
[2429.03] Jack: On Skype has been.
[2430.03] Jack: Jay, of course I know his chip gone.
[2432.03] Jack: New YouTube.
[2433.03] Jack: Check it out.
[2434.03] Jack: All sorts of ...
[2435.03] Jack: Directly to my right.
[2436.03] Jack: My wife.
[2437.03] Jack: Niko.
[2438.03] Jack: And opposite me, my new wife.
[2441.03] Jack: Hello.
[2442.03] Jack: All the best everyone.
[2444.03] Tony: Tone star.
[2445.03] Tony: Tone star.
[2446.03] Jack: Nice numbers played by the way.
[2450.03] Jack: Keep in the skies.