=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 8 ===
Title: After the indoor fpv league event
Recorded: 2015-10-22
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jae "Chipko"
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 1,067
Platforms: SoundCloud (https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/242934551)
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we tell you what it was like flying indoors at a paintball arena

[0.0] Jack: Hello and welcome back to let's drone out or let's have technical difficulties
[6.08] Jack: tonight's show is sponsored by I drone and we're sponsored by Radio C for the
[12.44] Jack: iTunes account so yeah thank you which we may never ever be on iTunes we can't get anywhere we're just
[23.44] Jack: having so many problems but how's your week been mr. second place
[30.28] Jack: keep talking tone that's what voice a doomsday Tony's in a miserable foul mood
[36.08] Tony: so like talk about a lot harder it was only like one going upstairs around the
[50.16] Tony: corner and over a banister but it was enough to cause my em where there
[55.74] Tony: wouldn't have been no qualifiers or nothing it was really weird having just
[59.36] Tony: two races agreed but it weren't much space there was there no so understandably
[65.96] Jack: and like the three it did make it quite interesting I'm happy because I made it
[70.04] Tony: round yeah good good there was actually good flying when you were flying until
[75.12] Tony: you you know little fire yeah well I wouldn't say little well it's got a big
[79.28] Tony: actually you can see the shadows are swore again apologies you um yeah you
[85.16] Jack: were too happy with me because you were like mmm that's my mobius yeah I
[91.94] Tony: realized after there was a fire on top that it was my mobius yeah close to the
[98.42] Tony: well you go through Mobius he's like
[104.86] Jack: well he's my yammy hasn't shown up yet cuz like I looked at you and there's a
[110.18] Jack: picture on the canvas of like a really big quad well technically it's not a
[115.64] Jack: quad because there's eight motors but they're doubled up and that UAV show I
[123.76] Jack: was I was completely left out the loop I felt dumb you know that I kind of I
[130.6] Jack: just I they're like they are super technical chisel whistle yep totally I
[138.28] Jack: mean I you know I can build a good mini mini quads but those guys are all like
[143.46] Jack: you know infrared sensors and that's all gay stuff who needs it
[150.08] Tony: yeah but sometimes when technology goes too far it ends up being you end up
[157.86] Tony: doing nothing I want to be out of fly and be it me I don't want it to stop
[162.42] Tony: because there's a wall in the way or laser beam I think Matt Hellyer who was
[168.02] Tony: the winner is join the chat I think that might be Matt H down there
[172.46] Jack: oh this is Jay thinking he's Matt do you want to just be Matt for like 10 minutes yeah my name's Matt mate
[181.22] Tony: am I from Australia yes truth mate from Southampton yeah I can do a sort of
[189.98] Jae: mob posh accent from the southern coast if you like yeah better yes yes my name is
[195.08] Jae: Matt hello everyone and TTNS listeners out there good to grab the show that is
[201.68] Tony: funny hang on it is him hi Matt well played well played for first you more
[208.94] Jack: swearing yeah Jay you you pretend to be Matt and I want to know how it felt to
[216.56] Jae: take first place oh well it was an amazing race and I'm sorry to Tony in
[222.14] Jae: commiserations really that's the best pilot there and unfortunately if you
[227.26] Jae: don't have the aircraft to fly then you can you're gonna crash aren't you how
[231.86] Jack: much better yeah Matt how much better is a 180 to fly well I mean it's much
[241.7] Jae: better in tight confined spaces and therefore I think it's much easier in
[245.38] Jae: of course like the one that we flew in I mean that's where I was a little bit
[253.58] Jae: let down and I think I needed a 180 or 150 and I would have an uneven better so
[258.06] Jack: watch this space yeah did you wish that you attached lasers to shoot Tony down
[264.42] Jack: and what did you think of Tony falling out at the last corner lasers I used
[269.82] Jae: rockets and that's why he fell out of the last corner didn't you see I was in the lead I
[274.22] Tony: overtook him like the pressure is like do you fly normally get round and hope
[281.46] Tony: that you're in front do you push to go in front pushing too fast and then may
[286.62] Tony: crash that's what I did I pushed too fast on when I was coming around that
[290.58] Tony: last bend I was going too fast to be honest I was trying to get away with that one
[297.9] Jae: so he didn't say that whoever's gonna swear he had to buy an ESC or something
[301.54] Jack: well he's done about six now because like last week I thought it was just the
[305.3] Jack: triple F juice that made Tony swear loads you know made by made by anti
[311.06] Tony: gravity it was that as well that's just a tea today I just swear I'm sorry it's
[318.94] Jack: just in my vocabulary yeah you're not having a good time yeah oh there's some
[325.62] Jack: no swearing on the Thursday night show with the pictures of gravity's I said
[331.66] Jack: good here sounds good thank you madhouse wife there's good few people in the chat
[336.14] Tony: we're taking questions yeah question we ain't got very much time now because of
[343.02] Jack: the days that yeah I will sort everything out I will try and get like a
[349.54] Jack: mixer sorted and everything I think like sponsors perhaps get some color-coded
[356.06] Jack: heat shrink rather than spray paint I don't know because you got to get it
[359.78] Jack: over the plugs I don't think that'll work okay look insulation tape we'll
[367.34] Tony: get it sorted I'll get you lot talking what do you reckon about the what the
[371.66] Tony: USA for the USA of I have done with the registering aircraft yeah what do you
[379.62] Jae: reckon well it's not gonna really help on the fact that if you didn't want to
[384.62] Jae: register you can still build these things and fly them I mean I don't see
[387.42] Tony: why they've even bothered what do you think no boy why do you think they've
[392.22] Jack: done it make money I don't know I mean why stop there why don't they just tattoo
[396.42] Jack: babies with their own cereal numbers you know and then when you grow and have
[401.18] Tony: a QR code is it like for a terrorist thing or what I think it's just to be
[406.06] Tony: if you're a terrorist oh yeah I'm a terrorist I've put semtex on mine and I'm
[411.78] Tony: gonna register it you're just not gonna do it anyway are you no I mean the only
[416.82] Jae: the only sort of benefit would be if there's registered against some of the
[420.62] Jae: off-the-shelf bought ones that then they're at least contracted if it goes
[423.98] Jae: flies away somewhere but if every single one was registered then it could work
[428.54] Jae: for accountability but it's not because not everyone's gonna bother registering
[432.5] Jae: why would you if you did if you're gonna do up to no good and it's it's less
[436.62] Jack: regulation that's needed more education I think I argue this I think we should
[442.82] Jack: have a competence test I think you can only fly a drone if you're not an idiot
[447.98] Jack: bloody hell are you gonna pass that it's in a way less offensive what America's
[456.1] Jack: doing you know like all all drones need to carry a black box data where it says
[463.14] Jack: what the drones doing its own serial code DNA sample if you fly any DJI
[472.22] Tony: stuff I think they can do that anyway I'm pretty sure that everything that you
[476.98] Jack: do is sent to Facebook and when you're in a coffee shop you must read out your
[483.5] Jack: what you type into Google out loud well they track us all the tap law drip law
[490.7] Jack: I can't remember what it's called now Jay you know no I don't know DJI I can turn
[497.02] Tony: you off at any time you know they can track you they see where you fly they
[500.9] Tony: know everything and they can actually individually turn each phantom off each
[504.5] Tony: inspire off they can just stop your is this area 51 or you know this is true
[510.82] Tony: because you cannot like everything you upload on your you know when you after
[514.38] Tony: you've done a flight it says like press this button and it shows you on the map
[519.14] Tony: they can see everyone's flight and everything I mean you're saying same with
[525.42] Jack: your mobile phones though is the same brother everywhere in it they send
[530.58] Jae: number and stuff and I think that's why sometimes the other flight controllers
[536.38] Jae: that exist out there will probably win in the end for not being so
[540.46] Jae: surveilled as in you know I mean it's a losing battle they're facing against
[546.86] Jae: idiots flying them but perhaps the actual education needs come from the
[552.82] Jae: flyers like that are flying them properly and say look you can't do this
[556.26] Jae: and when it comes down to a police running the operations of flights of
[562.18] Jae: these aircraft and it should be people may actually think oh well okay it's not
[566.34] Jae: just gonna be the Federal Aviation Authority in America or the CIA in the
[570.18] Jae: UK that are gonna prosecute me and maybe that all that should be more of a
[572.74] Jae: deterrent rather than we can see where you've been but the thing is right with
[577.94] Jack: the whole like putting numbers on drones right or quads or whatever you want to
[583.22] Jack: call them right is that look at they do that with guns guns have serial numbers
[587.5] Jack: right and they have ballistics testing you've got score marks you've got pin
[595.46] Jack: pin signatures from the firing pin hitting the shell you you know if you
[601.58] Jack: don't you know if you find the brass and right you've got serial number on the
[606.78] Jack: side of the gun people scratch them off acid action you have to spend loads
[611.58] Jack: loads of time like recovering that now I don't know whether you guys know this
[617.46] Jack: but most quads are made out of carbon fiber and plastic with a little tiny
[621.46] Jack: bit a little bit of metal and gold here and there but I think the much the
[626.18] Jack: largest piece of metal on my quad is the bolts and the SMA connector yeah and the
[635.68] Jack: motors I just think it's just mental absolutely mental and also it's the
[644.18] Jack: other side of it like you know like cars have got number plates everyone
[647.9] Jack: still speeds you know there's cameras for them that you know take take photos
[652.9] Jack: of them there's not there's nothing stopping and not that number plate theft
[656.7] Jack: is right isn't it you can just get a number plate forge a number plate stick
[661.86] Jack: it on someone else you could just go out and pull them today well yeah you could
[666.7] Tony: just go and pull a number plate off someone else's car I put it on yours fill up with petrol and then go home
[673.42] Jae: yeah you're gonna have to show some form of official identification to
[680.58] Jae: register these things because let's face it when you're buying a TV in the UK
[683.58] Jae: supposed to give you name and address so they can come around and charge you more
[686.22] Jae: license fees are they gonna you know people can just get around all these
[689.22] Jae: supposed safeguards so it's it's it's a pointless exercise agreed don't like it
[696.58] Tony: and we're probably follow suit because we're stuck up the USA's but I want me
[700.74] Jae: well no I'd like to think the UK is a bit more sensible yeah yeah we haven't
[705.42] Jae: had a trappy incident no and we've also been able to operate them commercially
[710.14] Jae: with the right sort of regulatory framework so I'd like to think we might
[715.06] Jae: readdress the situation before they impose something maybe would be all right
[719.58] Jack: who knows yeah I think so there's no they haven't been this they haven't been
[724.1] Jack: like no ban ban everything you know over here they've been you know I think
[730.58] Jae: our rules are much more reasonable voice of doom recommends putting a he always
[735.1] Jack: puts Jack's Murphy number on his number online yeah well you know yeah I mean my
[745.66] Jack: it's my fingerprints and DNA not enough all over them yeah yeah but it always gets
[751.58] Jack: burned off every time you fly with him kiss you know I haven't even touched my
[757.26] Jack: quad it still stinks oh you smoked out that joint I know I'll be lucky if they
[763.78] Jack: let me back no no I think they will you really know the whole house down on the
[769.38] Jack: whole arena down yeah I could I was aiming for a hobby king
[775.3] Jack: I don't know send send us a send us some pros there's a pro Tony wants Tony
[786.14] Jack: wants a pro well even Boris ripping around your video Dan metal daddy the
[802.1] Jack: last one he just did was really really good gives Tony an escape for the pain
[808.34] Jack: that he's feeling right now he looks at that are you looking forward to it yes
[814.18] Jack: yeah yeah because I like that thing that's what the slimmer ma someone who
[822.18] Jack: won't be named traitor traitor flies a flies a spectrum scumbag oh yeah sorry
[831.02] Jae: sorry I do you know spectrum in that I think on the news of that if they were a
[840.62] Jae: popular heli radio because they worked in them fast enough and they know they
[845.38] Jae: worked so no no spectrum bashing is always that thing that pops up here and
[850.1] Jack: there but I've been happy with my spectrum I was really hoping Tony was
[855.02] Tony: going to fly a never bent horizon next you send it Jack a build it I'll fly it
[861.62] Jack: Jack Jack will probably complain and build it apparently it's quite a good
[866.5] Jack: build Martin did you get the did you get the
[869.7] Jack: VTX I sent you just want to know just want to know want to help the community
[876.18] Tony: I will be flying I'm ready I'm going up on the 29th to the drone show I've been
[881.66] Tony: invited up there to do a press day I think I've got to drive up there and
[888.22] Tony: meet Martin and Chris and Martinez as we like to call him yeah for a show so I
[897.62] Tony: think the event horizons gonna be on show there oh I really really would love
[903.34] Jack: to fly with you I don't know if I can I'll be on a table with a book I helped
[908.66] Jack: right when the signing books at the drain show well that's the fifth and
[914.1] Tony: sixth yeah I'm going out there and 29 for video press pictures and things like
[920.02] Tony: that and then I am flying the fifth and a sixth I don't know I'm flying with don't
[924.9] Tony: know anything about the course don't know what I'm gonna fly whether I'm
[928.42] Tony: we're gonna be out of fly the event horizon the fossil to a either more 150
[933.7] Jae: I've heard it's a hub Sun yeah I mean the fifth and sixth it should be pretty
[941.97] Jae: good yeah I don't know how many of the Thursday night show crew are gonna be up
[946.29] Tony: that way if you're going up to the Birmingham NEC on the fifth and sixth
[950.93] Jack: please yeah I'm I mean if there's any sponsors out there listening we would
[957.01] Jack: love a zoom zoom to to have a digital recorder that we can travel with and
[964.93] Jack: do some interviews there and then because like when we went to the UAV
[968.93] Jack: show I would have loved to like stuck a microphone in Jay's face and had a little
[972.93] Jack: sit down because when we were sat having a coffee we had like a really
[978.13] Jack: interesting chat and also I really wish we could have there was the what were
[982.93] Jack: they called who are the guys who gave us the t-shirts what did they call the UAV
[987.41] Jack: coalition yeah the coalition yeah what size did you get Jack I got a large
[991.81] Jack: they're American sizes no probably would have been fine then I would have
[995.81] Jae: been able to get me and Tony discussed of the gorgeous lady that was helping
[1001.65] Jae: them out I think what's that on your wrist oh it's
[1007.01] Tony: my hair maybe we could I mean minds from fossil stuff
[1015.09] Tony: said that he might be out sponsor us some bits that we need and I know from
[1020.53] Tony: Neil from my drone said he was talking about sponsoring us enough some more
[1024.53] Tony: parts so we could get some stuff that we need for to carry on the screen then is
[1029.65] Jae: we're gonna go around roving around with cameras filming stuff doing a live one
[1033.41] Jae: that's a life but some video pieces and some tomfoolery I think Mel Danny's
[1038.37] Tony: sent in some pictures to view if you wanna you're in a chat on a vortex probe
[1043.33] Jack: there's no pictures it's just videos well I don't think he's allowed to show
[1047.89] Jack: pictures mixer thank you Martin yeah thank you we never need it there's
[1054.85] Jack: apparently if you scroll down oh oh oh yes yes is there pictures
[1062.69] Tony: pictures that's the inside scoop you drone he's out there oh man thanks
[1066.45] Tony: middle Danny nice one Danny and mine right that would be awesome if fossil
[1071.41] Tony: stuff bullets that would do the whole show saying thanks yeah yeah that'd be
[1075.25] Jack: wicked that would be much helpful as in we do we just say thanks
[1079.97] Jack: repeating yeah we just say thanks for one hour and talk about only I want to
[1085.17] Jack: get a 280 blank plate with just the battery straps out of it and the little
[1094.93] Jack: you know a channel changing dip switch hole yeah I don't know how to I don't
[1100.77] Jack: know how to say that really right there okay and I wanted to get like laser etch
[1107.57] Jack: the tone star on it or something for you that would be awesome I'd like I can get
[1111.89] Tony: stuff laser edge that's not a problem yeah I want it hydro dipped as well
[1116.05] Tony: please I've actually one I wanted to one or two fifty which I think Thomas is
[1123.65] Tony: talking to Martin about so yeah yeah one of two fifty eighty quid from radio
[1131.41] Tony: C and a hundred pound cash yeah but like I said I would rather have had a trophy
[1136.61] Tony: than the cash why don't you buy yourself a trophy you can just buy myself one and etch it in there
[1142.69] Jack: saying second place the tone star world on get that one as well I just put like
[1148.85] Jack: first place you scratch his name out this should have been mine can I put some
[1157.65] Jack: applied by fossil stuff sticker on it do it you can do whatever you want mine yeah I see it like
[1164.77] Tony: that'd be fantastic it would be fantastic because this is gonna get on a bit you're a
[1169.73] Jack: mixer there and yeah I mean I remember having the train journey this week on Wednesday and
[1177.73] Jack: he was like digital mix and I was like mate and he's like USB I was like no analog
[1185.33] Jack: this old workhorse I mean every LED on it only two LEDs work now that's it that's how
[1191.65] Jack: wrong with this thing is yeah we did we did in another one so that would be awesome
[1196.21] Jack: someone's even wrote the the s word for poo-poo on it in permanent marker
[1201.81] Tony: yeah I'm just trying to help out the editor right but not swearing yes yeah yeah what else
[1212.69] Tony: has been going on on news news well gave uh sent me some bits but we've hardly got any time there
[1220.53] Tony: so we've got five minutes I can't really tell you anything well no we've got about four minutes
[1225.41] Jack: yeah I like the look of the vortex pro oh yeah do not do not update your GoPro
[1230.93] Tony: to the latest firmware because it will muck up your um if you're using it for fpv it will muck
[1238.53] Jae: it up do not you know what I'm not sure on though if you still get your usc your video out through
[1243.17] Jack: the uh connector on the back yeah you kind of do but you can't use the special yeah you have to
[1249.73] Tony: so basically it's rendered my 3d gimbal on my hex useless if if I do you want to send me your
[1255.57] Tony: GoPro 4 and then I'll fix it will you be able can we back engineer GoPro 4s and things like that
[1261.33] Jae: so it doesn't do it then well I'll just plug in the connector at the back and use it myself
[1267.33] Jae: oh jay I need to go for a 4 I'm lusting after one but yeah that is a valid point and it's going
[1274.45] Jae: all over youtube if you want to check it out there's loads of youtube videos and rants about
[1278.05] Jae: it I think it's terrible what they're doing it is well I don't know if it's just a mistake and
[1282.69] Jae: then probably release another firmware which is highly likely because they don't want to annoy
[1285.97] Jae: their customer base do they they've annoyed me I know but just watch this space I think they're
[1291.09] Jack: going to release they're releasing their own that's why that's why yeah that's what I reckon it is
[1296.45] Jae: no because why would they it would basically stop people going for another one and I really
[1300.45] Jae: don't think they want to do that I think they'd still want to keep that market they've got
[1304.45] Jae: so I I'm thinking just just wait a little bit of time and then probably fix it
[1310.13] Jack: Gabe just said do you need more yes we already need more the boss of ggi left GoPro isn't supporting
[1316.37] Jack: video out uh because they're planning on releasing their own drone and if you are screwed by the
[1323.01] Jack: gopro dildo of doom uh the bin files uh that the hpi guy has uh them on his youtube yeah he's done
[1330.21] Tony: a little blog about yeah how you can um try to reverse it didn't work for his but it's working
[1336.05] Jack: for other people so thank you hpi guy what a and and gape for the news yeah and gape uh hope
[1344.21] Jack: gabe you enjoyed your stickers also I'm really interested on it the kid that you stuck the
[1349.41] Jack: sticker to his bag who is the bag sponsored by we must know we need to shout you know the negative
[1359.33] Jack: side of this as well but well you know what I don't understand is that we were really good
[1364.13] Jack: and everything worked and then for the last two episodes or three I know he's just gone to hell
[1369.09] Jae: he has gone to hell someone needs to rent me an apartment in Brighton as well yeah move to Brighton
[1374.37] Tony: and we need a studio uh what else do I need to be trained yeah yeah we're talking rubbish now yeah
[1380.93] Jack: no it'd be great it'd be great for that instead of fixing quads thanks Dom all right thank you
[1387.57] Jack: thanks to everyone to let drone out yeah and keep in the sky bye metal danny this week yep
[1394.93] Jack: bye give my life a forest bee bye Bruce bye guys bye bye bye thanks for tuning in