=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 13 ===
Title: 13 two DJI phantoms and a hex
Recorded: 2015-11-26
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jae "Chipko"
Guest(s): Dom "D2" "Voice of Doom" Robinson
Total audience: 1,090
Platforms: SoundCloud (https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/244690196)
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Headphone users The clipping stops shortly Tony and Jack are Joined By The Voice of doom!

[0.0] Dom: It's from your Walkman, Jack.
[1.72] Jack: Yeah, totally. I see totally what I listen to.
[4.36] Dom: I listen to when you're flying.
[5.36] Jack: Yeah, alone in my room.
[7.48] Jack: No, well, I haven't got any more time for that.
[9.52] Jack: Due to Tony, he's just whacked something on my bench again.
[13.36] Jack: If you'd like to tell him...
[15.16] Tony: That sounds funny.
[17.48] Jack: That's one way of putting it.
[19.32] Tony: Yeah, I gave you a new toy to build me.
[23.52] Tony: Tony, you couldn't play that bloody trick.
[25.52] Tony: It's a fossil.
[26.92] Tony: Dinosaurs are fossils now.
[29.04] Jack: I'd just like to point that out.
[33.02] Jack: You're running a joke there.
[35.02] Jack: Also, on the...
[37.02] Jack: That's what it is.
[39.02] Jack: Yeah, that's the Jurassic Park theme tune.
[42.02] Dom: No, no, no. I'm not sure no-one listening to the show cares about a theme tune, dude.
[50.54] Dom: No, no, is that what I think you're building?
[53.02] Dom: It's the...
[54.02] Dom: Being mentioned for a reason, is that still on the maps?
[56.62] Jack: No, I'm not.
[58.62] Jack: No, he doesn't trust me enough, so he's given it to Dan Upton to build.
[61.9] Tony: What, the horizon?
[63.5] Tony: No, I said, look, I've got two builds only done by the NEC, which is next weekend.
[70.26] Tony: You panicked and said, I can't cope, I've got too much to do, just give me one.
[76.98] Tony: So, Dan Upton's got the Event Horizon with no instructions whatsoever.
[81.3] Jack: How are you meant to?
[83.5] Jack: Does anyone want to phone Martin?
[85.5] Jack: How the hell are you meant to feed wires?
[88.54] Jack: Through that tubular structure and get it round the corner.
[91.18] Jack: You know how they run lines down plain wings and stuff?
[94.46] Jack: Do you know what they use? These ferrets.
[96.62] Jack: And I don't think I can buy a ferret smaller than that.
[100.3] Tony: And I probably wouldn't allow you to use a ferret.
[103.74] Jack: Ferrets like it!
[105.26] Jack: They like running around in holes and stuff.
[107.26] Tony: The abusive animals that he's not tolerated on this show.
[111.42] Jae: What about horse riding, because they have a...
[113.98] Tony: Don't like it.
[115.14] Tony: Jay, you're a hippie, you're a yes.
[115.98] Tony: Come on, Jay, you're supposed to be in my size.
[117.74] Jae: Yeah, I mean, using animals, as long as they're not harmed, there's a fine line.
[122.54] Jae: What about roadkill?
[123.66] Jae: Making one fly, I don't know.
[125.18] Dom: Whispers.
[126.3] Dom: Strapping some roadkill to a quadcotcher, is that good or bad?
[129.18] Jack: Bad.
[130.22] Jack: Well, no, then you get into Orville territory.
[133.42] Jack: Orville, you know the cat?
[134.78] Jack: He wanted to fly with the birds.
[137.34] Jack: They weren't a bird.
[138.78] Jae: No, there's Orville the dead cat from the Dutch artist.
[141.58] Jae: Which, yeah, still is flying to today.
[145.42] Jae: With propellers out of his paws.
[147.66] Jack: Yeah, he's running DC20 motors as well.
[151.58] Jack: And he's on KK, I think.
[154.46] Jack: He looks very much like a KK cat.
[158.3] Jack: Sorry, I don't know whether that's true or not, I just made that last bit up.
[161.82] Tony: Anyway, yeah, you've got to grab the E250 to build,
[164.3] Tony: because that is what I am flying at the NEC on, I think I'm flying Saturday.
[170.86] Tony: I hope I'm flying Saturday and not Sunday.
[173.26] Tony: I don't fly Sunday.
[175.74] Jack: Whispers said you could use cockroaches to run down the booms of the gravity.
[184.14] Jack: The horizon, I mean.
[186.14] Jack: Oh, gravity, horizon, all different names.
[189.1] Jack: Madhousewife says roaches would fly away with the quad.
[194.38] Dom: I was quite chuffed with myself.
[195.66] Dom: I managed to successfully upgrade myself to Boris and actually get my quad to fly.
[200.62] Jack: Yeah, with some encouragement from me, I think, on the phone.
[204.38] Dom: From both yourself and the resident hippie.
[207.74] Jack: Yeah, I've heard a lot about throttle adjustment from Dan, Dan Upton, if anyone cares.
[218.7] Jack: Go on.
[219.18] Jack: Anyone cares?
[220.22] Jack: Sorry.
[220.7] Jack: Yeah, I care.
[221.26] Jack: So, right.
[222.38] Dom: We're here to care.
[223.58] Jack: Some people, I got approached, I had a phone call, and hang on, I will load it up.
[232.3] Jack: And David Mellon said, just built an overpowered Super 250.
[237.42] Jack: It's hovering only at 30% throttle.
[239.82] Jack: I'm running clean flight.
[241.18] Jack: What setting do I need to adjust my hover to stick in the middle to improve the lower
[245.42] Jack: the throttle control?
[247.18] Jack: Is the throttle mid PWM?
[249.18] Jack: Thank you in anticipation.
[251.58] Jack: So, people were finding that their quads would hover too quickly.
[255.02] Jack: So, it's throttle up too fast.
[256.94] Jack: And when you load it, it would cut off almost instantly.
[260.46] Jack: And Dan suggests setting your tab, on the tab of clean flight, mid throttle at 0.05
[269.42] Jack: and throttle expo at 0.50.
[272.06] Jack: And he says, that should do it.
[273.82] Jack: And I have had no feedback since.
[276.38] Jack: So, I think that's all good.
[278.06] Jack: There you go.
[278.86] Jack: Well done.
[279.26] Jack: I've had that question a couple times now.
[280.78] Jack: And I thought I'd just put it here so I can, everyone will know.
[284.46] Tony: Just got a little news in from Gabe.
[287.02] Tony: He's saying that the Rev5 is on sale at Hoboken is under £10.
[292.62] Tony: What?
[293.98] Tony: What's that?
[295.42] Tony: You know the Rev5?
[296.3] Tony: No, he's under £10.
[299.9] Jack: Well, we were just discussing this earlier.
[301.66] Tony: We were.
[302.3] Tony: I think Martin Fostles needs to buy every single one on the whole planet.
[308.38] Tony: Because when there is no Rev5 left, there might not be any gravity left.
[315.34] Tony: Well, no.
[316.06] Tony: He can adjust.
[318.86] Jack: He can modify.
[319.42] Jack: What about people who have already got them though?
[322.14] Jack: Yeah, true.
[323.1] Jack: I mean, the Rev5, if you solder all the pins on your signal pins,
[330.46] Jack: on the signal side, you know, where your receiver attaches to your NAS board,
[335.34] Jack: the header pins get in the way of the bottom right, you know, mounting point.
[341.98] Jack: And while I'm always having to cut and cut that away.
[345.58] Tony: So people who have to just hack, you know, if the Rev5 stops.
[351.1] Jack: Well, they've moved the, hang on, let's have a look.
[356.38] Jack: Let's have a look.
[359.42] Jack: I don't have a Rev6.
[360.86] Dom: Jay, I'm so out of my depth.
[363.34] Jack: Don't worry.
[364.3] Jack: We'll stop.
[364.94] Jack: We'll stop in a minute.
[367.26] Jack: So they've moved, the good thing about the Rev6 is they've moved the USB port.
[372.46] Jack: So it now pokes out the side.
[373.74] Jack: Grab this, hello chat.
[374.62] Jack: So there's no, there's no like, you know, bum holding your quads
[378.54] Jack: to try and get the USB in the rear of it.
[381.34] Jack: So that's one good thing.
[383.34] Jack: So now they've done that.
[384.54] Jack: So on the left, as you look at the board, as it pointed forward,
[388.38] Jack: is now your receiver pins where your motor pins should go.
[392.38] Jack: Yeah.
[392.7] Jack: So that's screwed you if you own a fossil.
[395.82] Jack: And the motor pins now poke out the rear, I think, or the front, the top, I think.
[403.82] Jack: Yeah, it's the top.
[405.1] Jack: There you go.
[405.66] Jack: That's what I'm going to say.
[406.46] Jack: So what are you going to do now, fossil boys?
[409.58] Jack: I'm waiting.
[410.22] Jack: That's just buy a million Rev5s.
[413.74] Jack: Boys, are we losing you?
[415.02] Jack: What do you want to talk about?
[415.9] Dom: I'm just not thinking about it.
[417.1] Dom: I reckon mine will probably have broken by it by the time.
[419.74] Dom: I'll probably have broken the frame by the time the board's run out.
[425.1] Jae: Don't need to have a lifetime warranty.
[427.34] Jack: It's not really a fault.
[428.94] Jack: Everyone stop calling it a lifetime warranty because it's not.
[431.98] Jack: It's a one use warranty.
[434.14] Dom: Yeah, it's a sort of Zippo lighter grade update.
[437.1] Dom: It's good.
[437.82] Dom: No, it's good with my flying.
[439.02] Dom: I need it.
[439.66] Dom: I need every bit of help I can get.
[442.3] Jack: Who's going to the NEC next month?
[445.1] Jack: Speaking about that.
[446.7] Jack: Next week.
[447.98] Tony: It's not next month earlier.
[449.66] Jack: I mean, 10 times next week next week.
[450.46] Jack: Whoa.
[450.62] Jack: It is.
[451.26] Jack: Next month and next week.
[452.62] Jack: I'm correct.
[453.58] Jack: It's not.
[454.06] Jack: It's all right.
[454.54] Jack: It's not descending yet.
[455.18] Jack: Oh, at least I know which way my microphone goes.
[460.14] Tony: Shut up.
[460.86] Tony: You had to turn me up on your damn stupid laptop.
[464.38] Jack: What's that?
[466.22] Jack: What's that?
[467.02] Tony: Flying hill boat.
[469.98] Dom: Oh, look.
[470.38] Dom: There you go.
[470.7] Dom: That GIF on the old canvas.
[472.14] Dom: That's what we were talking about before we came on air, isn't it?
[475.42] Dom: It's the old war beginning.
[477.02] Dom: We were just going to have drones, fighting drones, and then...
[479.82] Dom: I think you can go right here.
[481.1] Dom: You can go and pick up the pieces and make more drones.
[483.5] Jack: I was getting onto that.
[484.78] Jack: That was my little segue.
[486.22] Jack: Neil Cody.
[487.1] Dom: Stole a march on you with the GIF.
[488.7] Jack: Yep.
[489.26] Jack: Neil Cody has got a pair of free tickets.
[492.78] Jack: The UK drone show.
[494.54] Jack: The first to go to i-drone website and go through the contact page
[503.66] Jack: and message in.
[504.46] Jack: We'll get the free pair of tickets.
[506.78] Jack: Hello, Neil.
[507.98] Jack: So, yep.
[508.78] Jack: i-drone.
[510.06] Jack: Very lovely guy.
[511.02] Jack: Neil Cody.
[512.22] Jack: What's up, Neil?
[513.1] Jack: If you sell Drone 360 magazine with the edition that I'm in,
[518.7] Jack: please can I have two copies?
[520.46] Jack: I will pay you.
[521.58] Tony: Can you send me a TS0825 tomorrow?
[527.18] Tony: Yeah, a TS5823.
[531.58] Jack: Please.
[531.98] Jack: Please.
[532.78] Jack: And we shout out, we love i-drone a million times.
[535.26] Jack: Yeah, it's for Sunday only, the tickets.
[538.54] Dom: I'll say 23.
[541.26] Dom: Yeah, the TS...
[542.54] Tony: TS5823, yeah, I need one immediately.
[545.58] Dom: 200.
[547.66] Dom: You can have mine.
[548.7] Tony: Oh, excellent.
[549.98] Dom: You're going to drive down Rotting Dean?
[551.66] Dom: Sitting it with a green one because I don't like this one.
[555.66] Tony: Why are you going 600 on this?
[557.9] Tony: You're not going to be out of race with us.
[559.42] Dom: Yeah, I know, but I can't anyway, can I?
[562.7] Dom: I might as well enjoy my big back garden and try and be able to not lose it.
[566.62] Dom: I keep finding the fossil just flies out of range of my VTX.
[569.1] Dom: It's so damn quick.
[570.14] Tony: It is quick, isn't it?
[571.18] Dom: It's like being a bumblebee in a matchbox.
[574.46] Dom: Yeah, I agree, it's quick.
[577.02] Dom: I even need to walk around with a metal helmet and 15 antennas on it,
[581.42] Dom: or I need a longer range video link to be frank.
[587.98] Tony: We're never going to be able to fly with you again.
[590.38] Dom: It's okay.
[591.18] Jack: Gabe, what do you want a 25 for?
[594.22] Jack: 25 milliwatt.
[595.82] Jack: See, I owe 25 milliwatt.
[597.02] Tony: That is because he is going to a Rotoracing event.
[601.26] Tony: I think Francis Harris has organized a event at the Triangles Leisure Centre.
[607.98] Tony: I think that is in Burgess Hill, and he's hired the whole place for three hours or four hours,
[614.22] Tony: I think, and I think it's 25 quid to get in.
[616.86] Tony: I don't know if there's any tickets or anything left,
[619.02] Tony: but you need to be on 25 milliwatt to race,
[621.98] Tony: but it's going to be a pretty big indoor event on the 5th and 6th of December.
[626.54] Tony: So if anyone's interested in that.
[628.06] Jack: The 5th and 6th of December, but we're at the NEC.
[630.46] Tony: Well, actually, you're right.
[632.7] Tony: So why has he put that...
[635.82] Tony: I don't know what date that is, sorry.
[637.82] Jack: Okay.
[638.54] Jack: Well, if it's not, we'll go.
[639.82] Jack: If we are going to the NEC, and that is, and you're not going to the NEC,
[644.78] Jack: Gabe, I can lend you a immersion RC 25 milliwatt if you want.
[650.78] Tony: Gabe, can you tell us the dates, please, for the Rotoracing indoor event?
[655.18] Jack: Oh, look at us talking about events.
[657.26] Jack: Jay, why are you so quiet?
[659.26] Jae: Hold, sir.
[661.5] Jack: Are you distracted by women again?
[663.9] Jae: No.
[664.78] Jack: I've warned you about this.
[667.42] Dom: No, I'm not distracted at all.
[669.1] Dom: It's picture like the Caterpillar in Alice in Wonderland in this kind of boudoir.
[674.86] Dom: Quadcopters and women.
[677.02] Jae: At the moment, I've just got bits of quadcopters all over,
[679.5] Jae: and I'm thinking I need to tidy this up before tomorrow.
[681.82] Jack: Set fire to it.
[682.86] Jack: That's what I do.
[683.74] Jack: Burn it all.
[686.46] Tony: Tony, how many quads do you own now?
[689.18] Tony: Let's count on our fingers.
[691.18] Tony: Hex.
[692.54] Tony: Hexacopter.
[693.98] Tony: Phantom 2.
[694.86] Tony: Phantom 3.
[696.7] Tony: Gravity 280.
[698.22] Tony: Gravity 250.
[700.86] Tony: QAV 250.
[705.34] Tony: Gravity 180.
[707.42] Tony: And 250 gravity.
[709.5] Tony: This day, listen.
[710.86] Tony: Eight quads.
[713.02] Jae: What?
[714.14] Tony: But yeah, you need different things for different things.
[716.46] Tony: A right tool for the job, isn't it?
[718.14] Tony: Yeah, exactly.
[718.94] Tony: I'm not encouraging you.
[720.06] Tony: I've got quite too many.
[721.34] Tony: This rope event, indoor event, 180 would be perfect.
[724.7] Tony: So I've got 180.
[725.9] Tony: I could fly indoors.
[728.54] Tony: That's why I'm getting you to build this 250,
[730.86] Tony: because I want to fly gravity, because I want to support gravity.
[733.82] Tony: Fossil stuff.
[735.02] Tony: And I need a bit smaller than a 280.
[738.06] Tony: So.
[739.02] Tony: Gabe, don't.
[739.9] Tony: That is why we are building that.
[741.9] Jae: Well, you're hoping he's going to build it.
[744.94] Tony: He's got three days.
[748.38] Jae: What do I get out of it?
[750.3] Jae: A hug.
[750.94] Tony: A hug, yeah.
[751.82] Tony: Thanks, Jay.
[752.46] Tony: That's a weird one, isn't it?
[755.02] Jae: Well, no, maybe not.
[757.58] Jack: I'm going to throw Gabe onto the bus.
[759.02] Jack: He need to kill the seagull yesterday.
[761.1] Tony: Hey.
[761.74] Jack: Gabe.
[764.72] Jack: Tony the hippie don't like that.
[765.84] Dom: Wait until I see you.
[767.6] Dom: Right, listen, chaps.
[768.64] Dom: I'm going to have to sidle off and leave you.
[771.44] Dom: We're going to have to stop the show tight at 18.59 tonight,
[776.48] Dom: because we need to kick the server one more time
[778.32] Dom: before the rest of the evening will flow smoothly.
[780.64] Jack: Yeah, no worries.
[781.76] Dom: I'm going to sidle off and leave you guys bantering.
[784.32] Dom: And I shall hopefully see you at the NEC.
[786.4] Dom: I'll probably speak to you next week.
[787.76] Jack: Yeah, please.
[788.56] Jack: And let us know.
[789.44] Jack: We'll have you back on the show when you can actually tell us.
[792.08] Jack: Yeah, I've got some big things.
[792.72] Jack: What are you dying to tell us?
[793.84] Jack: Yeah.
[794.16] Jack: Why wouldn't you tell us?
[795.12] Jack: Tell us, Neil.
[795.92] Jack: Tell us.
[796.8] Dom: Because you've got to build excitement for these sort of things.
[798.72] Dom: It's a tension, but just keep May the 7th clear
[801.12] Dom: if you're a fly and the 8th, a weekend.
[803.12] Jack: What's with the hippie music?
[805.92] Dom: It's Jay's boudoir.
[808.72] Jae: Sorry, can you hear it too clearly over the radio?
[811.6] Tony: Hi, Johnny Benton.
[813.12] Tony: He's in the chat.
[814.0] Tony: And Neil Cody.
[815.84] Tony: Yes, I want some of them due respect.
[818.32] Tony: So don't sell them all.
[820.16] Tony: Please save me some.
[821.6] Jack: You want right-handed polarisation, didn't you?
[823.68] Jack: Yes, please.
[824.16] Jack: A circular polarisation.
[824.96] Dom: What's the Zoom signing off, chaps?
[826.08] Dom: I'll see you later.
[826.72] Dom: Bye.
[827.76] Dom: Thank you, our Lord and Master.
[829.04] Dom: I'm going to give you your own soundtrack.
[830.32] Dom: But honestly, the sitar music is coming from Jay's boudoir.
[833.12] Dom: See you later.
[834.72] Jack: You're not going to leave it on, are you?
[836.24] Jae: Yeah, go on.
[837.2] Jae: I mean, I can't change the room around that much
[839.44] Jae: and turn the music down.
[840.64] Jack: OK, I'll keep the date free for International Drone Day Brighton.
[846.64] Jack: Says Gabe.
[848.0] Jack: I wonder what it is.
[849.04] Jack: Have you got any idea?
[850.0] Jack: I don't know.
[850.64] Jack: Is the BBC going to show up this time and actually report something?
[853.76] Jack: Because I doubt it.
[855.2] Jack: They're like, maybe we need to blow stuff up.
[857.84] Tony: Well, Sky News were an outcome video to everyone at Hidden Valley,
[863.84] Tony: didn't they, in the summer?
[865.52] Tony: Gabe was on the Sky News.
[867.6] Tony: I was in the background flying around.
[870.96] Tony: But yeah, as Gabe sent in the dates for that indoor flying rotor racing yet.
[877.92] Tony: Anyone?
[878.72] Jack: Gabe, anyone?
[879.76] Jack: Yeah, come on.
[880.72] Jack: Mum, Dad?
[881.68] Jack: So is the 250 your 250, Joe?
[886.24] Jack: Is it still on repair?
[887.52] Jae: No, it's flying at the moment.
[889.52] Jae: The only thing I've yet to do, I have no voltage alarm on it,
[892.96] Jae: which is a bit dangerous.
[893.84] Jae: Do you need a busser?
[897.36] Jae: I'm not overflying.
[898.24] Jae: I'm not getting too into it.
[899.2] Jae: I'm talking about it a few times.
[900.64] Jae: But I'm thinking tonight I might just hook it up to the board
[904.08] Jae: and get some voltage monitoring leaks through the lights.
[906.4] Jack: Yeah, have you got the?
[907.2] Jack: The skis, Jack.
[908.96] Jae: The yawn.
[909.68] Jack: Yeah, sorry.
[911.12] Jack: Yeah, that's how interesting this drone out is.
[913.6] Jack: Have you got a buzzer?
[914.96] Jack: Do you need me to send you one?
[915.92] Jae: No, I've got a buzzer.
[916.72] Jae: I've got a buzzer.
[917.6] Jae: And I've got the warning LED set up.
[919.52] Jae: But I'm really, it's looking all right at the moment with the lights.
[923.2] Jae: Yeah.
[925.52] Jae: I'm going to try a few things this weekend, or this week.
[927.68] Jae: Yeah, this weekend.
[929.36] Jack: I'm going to embarrass myself as the lead technician of Radio City.
[934.56] Jack: And I never noticed, when you click onto CleanFly on the first page,
[939.92] Jack: you get the feedback when you plug in your battery.
[944.4] Jack: Get feedback of the voltage that the board's reading.
[948.0] Jack: If you hook up your VBAT, I recommend don't connect a negative terminal to the VBAT.
[956.08] Jack: Just never ever do it.
[957.36] Jack: Only hook up.
[959.2] Jack: Well, you've got a ground loop.
[960.88] Jack: And the possibility, if you do have it on a pin
[963.76] Jack: and you switch it around the wrong polarity, you toast your board.
[966.56] Jack: So, you don't need it.
[969.36] Jack: It works just with the positive.
[971.76] Jack: So, hook up straight from the 12 volt from the battery,
[975.12] Jack: straight to your VBAT positive side.
[977.36] Jack: And it will work.
[978.48] Jack: And that first page on, you know, what is the first page of CleanFly?
[984.24] Jack: Anyone know?
[985.76] Jack: What is it?
[987.44] Jack: What do you mean the first page?
[988.64] Jack: Well, you know, like you load it up and it's like you get set up.
[991.6] Jae: Oh, the first tab.
[992.64] Jae: Right, the first tab that it's, I can check.
[996.48] Jae: It's set up.
[997.2] Jack: I haven't got a board to like plug in or anything.
[999.12] Jack: All my USBs are taken.
[1001.12] Jack: I can't think off the top of your head.
[1002.48] Jack: You know, like you got configuration, you got set up.
[1005.84] Jack: I think you set up the second one's configuration.
[1009.28] Jack: Then it's, I don't know, LED or something else.
[1011.84] Jack: But anyway, there's a little box, tiny little box on the right hand side.
[1016.24] Jack: And it will tell you voltage.
[1017.44] Jack: Stick your multimeter on your balance plug.
[1019.84] Jack: Positive, top end, negative from the bottom end.
[1022.96] Jack: Find out what the voltage, actual voltage is of your battery.
[1027.28] Jack: And then flick in between the configuration and set up tab.
[1031.84] Jack: And then adjust till it reads off the correct voltage.
[1035.52] Tony: Or fly, land.
[1039.44] Tony: Yeah, fly over time.
[1040.48] Tony: That's what I was going to say, do what I do.
[1042.24] Tony: Yeah, just fly, boot it around, land it.
[1044.56] Tony: You know what your court does and set up a timer.
[1047.28] Tony: Well, you know.
[1047.84] Tony: Robert's your father's brother.
[1049.92] Jae: Robert's your father.
[1051.52] Jae: Are you talking about the old version or the old version of clean flight?
[1054.88] Jack: The old version?
[1056.88] Jack: Is it not there on the new one?
[1058.32] Jae: It's under configuration.
[1059.92] Jack: Yeah, configuration that's it.
[1061.76] Jae: That's configuration.
[1062.88] Jack: Yeah, configuration, there's little voltage.
[1065.92] Jack: And then you've got current as well.
[1067.84] Jack: Which I never really sort of looked into.
[1070.08] Jack: Because apparently you can get current reading with how your nays.
[1075.28] Jack: I don't understand.
[1076.48] Jack: Right.
[1077.12] Jack: How the hell are you meant to...
[1078.8] Jack: No, no.
[1079.36] Jack: You're going to have to look that up.
[1080.48] Jack: Yeah, I will.
[1081.2] Jae: So you're saying I only need the positive?
[1083.28] Jae: Yes.
[1083.52] Jae: All right.
[1084.08] Jack: I will check that out.
[1085.12] Jack: Because you get your ground from your ESCs.
[1088.32] Jack: Yeah, exactly.
[1088.8] Jack: And the only reason you...
[1090.56] Jack: You know like on your signal, your servo leads,
[1095.2] Jack: you don't really need the ground for them.
[1097.2] Jack: But in order to keep the motors in sync, you do.
[1100.4] Jack: So that's why you always have signal and ground.
[1104.96] Jack: Excellent.
[1106.8] Jae: And that's Jack's top tip of the tech world this week.
[1110.96] Jack: Yep, sorry.
[1111.6] Jack: I hope I haven't killed everyone.
[1113.12] Jack: Thanks, Jack.
[1113.84] Jack: Ultimate boredom.
[1114.72] Jae: Yeah, thanks, Jack.
[1117.36] Jae: And this point he plays the giraffe.
[1123.12] Jack: I've got it.
[1123.76] Jack: I've got it right here.
[1124.72] Jack: Oh, fuck her off.
[1126.16] Jack: I know.
[1126.64] Jack: I can't help it.
[1128.08] Jack: Yo, right.
[1128.96] Jack: Yo.
[1129.44] Jack: We've got a day 20th of December
[1131.92] Jack: for the multi-roader league thing
[1134.0] Jack: inside Burgess Hill Triangle Center.
[1136.8] Jack: 20th?
[1137.52] Jack: Yep, 20th.
[1138.64] Tony: Wow.
[1139.28] Jack: Close to Christmas.
[1140.16] Tony: Yeah.
[1140.64] Tony: It'll be a pretty cool event.
[1142.8] Tony: Is there any more room?
[1144.96] Tony: I don't know.
[1146.24] Tony: Can we ask?
[1147.44] Jack: I don't know.
[1148.0] Jack: Who do we ask?
[1148.72] Jack: Francis.
[1149.52] Jack: Francis?
[1150.16] Tony: The master.
[1151.04] Tony: Your game.
[1152.24] Tony: I think Gabe's going.
[1153.28] Tony: He can tell us.
[1155.04] Tony: Can you let us know if there's any places left?
[1158.16] Tony: Because I wouldn't mind going down there
[1160.0] Tony: just to watch, even if I don't fly.
[1161.84] Tony: Yeah.
[1162.32] Tony: I'm going to say hello and stuff.
[1164.08] Tony: Do some video, and maybe we could do a video,
[1167.04] Tony: put it on one of my YouTubes about it.
[1169.6] Jack: Oh, I like it.
[1170.4] Jack: Are you getting it?
[1171.04] Jack: Just do something like that.
[1172.08] Jack: Yeah.
[1172.32] Jack: What were you after for Christmas?
[1173.68] Jack: Anything?
[1174.32] Jack: You going to treat yourself?
[1175.2] Tony: Oh, I want to go on all day.
[1178.32] Tony: No.
[1178.8] Tony: You got your mortgage.
[1181.44] Tony: I might just go on all day.
[1182.96] Jack: Really?
[1183.6] Tony: Yeah.
[1185.28] Tony: On your own?
[1187.2] Tony: Yeah.
[1188.08] Tony: Why not?
[1189.52] Tony: Well, I might take you.
[1190.48] Tony: You can build that quad.
[1191.36] Tony: Hurry up.
[1192.32] Jae: Shall I leave you two to have a little cuddle and a loving?
[1196.4] Jack: You just want to go back to those she-devils.
[1200.32] Jack: Those ground control.
[1203.28] Jae: No, I'm going away just after Christmas.
[1205.12] Jae: Where are you going?
[1206.56] Jae: I'm going to Italy into the mountains.
[1209.68] Jae: Are you going to do any flying?
[1211.44] Jae: Well, I'm hoping to.
[1213.76] Jae: Build a wing, man.
[1215.36] Jae: Well, I thought A, have taken my bigger one.
[1217.84] Jae: Oh, yeah.
[1219.12] Jae: Then I thought about taking a 250 and just getting a couple of snaps
[1224.32] Jae: out from the sea of some of the sort of villages that pop up on the side of the hills.
[1230.0] Jae: So I don't know.
[1231.2] Jae: I want to take something that flies.
[1233.84] Tony: Are you going to take something like a 250 so you enjoy yourself or something
[1237.76] Tony: that will do nice filming of the scenery?
[1240.88] Jae: Well, taking nice filming of the scenery is a lot bigger and more cumbersome to do it.
[1246.08] Jae: But I could have more options if I take that aircraft.
[1248.96] Jae: So it might be that I just do that.
[1252.32] Jack: I would do that.
[1253.44] Jack: Because I worry about taking a 250 and then because it's two fifties,
[1259.28] Jack: you do have to fly like a mental case.
[1261.76] Jack: Yeah, yeah.
[1263.12] Jack: And, you know, like if you smash it up or forget, say like you went on holiday,
[1267.28] Jack: you've got to take your, you know, take your Allen key or take some props out with you.
[1274.32] Jack: Or, you know, you've also got, you've got as well got to get an adapter plug for your charger.
[1282.32] Jae: Yeah, there's a lot of hassle.
[1284.8] Jae: But you can just still whack a GoPro on one and just send it up and get sort of some stills.
[1289.12] Jae: So there's benefits to a small size, compact size that's not too much luggage.
[1295.44] Jae: Otherwise, if you're taking a bigger bird, then you've got more troubles when you're
[1298.72] Jae: moving your stuff around when you know there's more logistical problems.
[1302.4] Tony: Well, I took my Phantom 3 to Greece and enjoyed it.
[1306.48] Tony: But I think the next time I go on holiday, I will take a little,
[1309.44] Tony: just a little 180 and to have that bit of fun.
[1313.36] Tony: Yeah.
[1313.84] Tony: Because I've already done the filming, but it is nice to come back to.
[1318.32] Tony: Instead of having like boring photos to look for, you know, nice videos.
[1322.56] Jae: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
[1324.72] Tony: But wouldn't it be nice flying in and out in umbrellas in the morning on the sand?
[1329.2] Jack: Yeah, that's it.
[1330.0] Tony: Hey, I'd love that.
[1332.24] Jack: Yeah, get up early.
[1333.44] Jack: Yeah, beat everyone else.
[1334.8] Tony: Beat the Germans and their towers out and all that and just hack it around in umbrellas.
[1338.96] Jack: Yeah, they go near the sunbed.
[1340.48] Jack: You're chasing them.
[1342.4] Jack: I'll teach them.
[1344.16] Jack: Waft all the sand up everywhere.
[1346.0] Tony: Yeah, it'd be great.
[1347.36] Tony: Do some flips over the sea.
[1350.4] Jack: It sounds beautiful.
[1351.36] Jack: Let's go.
[1352.56] Jack: Yeah, it does sound good.
[1353.68] Jack: Like apparently asked Francis.
[1356.32] Jack: He reckons there's still some tickets available.
[1359.2] Jack: Cool.
[1360.24] Jack: Gabe said he took his 280 to France.
[1363.84] Jack: Yeah, I've seen that video.
[1365.44] Jack: It's quite good.
[1366.72] Jack: Sounds like a plan, he said.
[1369.44] Jack: I had no takers for my racing edition Cobras, so I've stuck them on my tricopter.
[1375.44] Jack: Yeah, I see that.
[1376.72] Jack: So I've only, I've got one slight problem because the tail mechanism is quite thin.
[1384.64] Jack: It's thinner, you know, and the bolts don't quite,
[1388.0] Jack: yeah, my bolts are quite long, really, for that.
[1390.48] Jack: It's not a thick piece of material.
[1392.72] Jack: So I've got to find some way of spacing them.
[1394.72] Jack: It's got a lot of rocket though, isn't it?
[1396.72] Tony: It should do, yeah.
[1397.68] Tony: You swing six inch on that.
[1399.44] Tony: Six inch.
[1400.48] Tony: 4S.
[1400.96] Jack: 3100, 4S, yeah.
[1402.72] Tony: Man, you're going to be a nutcase on that.
[1404.96] Jack: I just love, I finally figured it out.
[1407.44] Jack: So you've got your tricopter sand and you can adjust your servo if it doesn't sit straight.
[1411.92] Jack: All you're meant to do is reduce the D and the I down to nothing on your yaw.
[1417.76] Jack: And then your tricopter will start spinning around on its own, yawing on its own.
[1422.8] Jack: Okay.
[1423.2] Jack: You trim it out till it stops yawing and then you can figure out where
[1427.52] Jack: your servo does the least amount of work in the hover.
[1431.12] Jack: So you kind of just trim it.
[1432.88] Jack: Yeah.
[1433.28] Jack: Till it just naturally hovers.
[1436.4] Jack: So it's no, you count, you're countering, wait for it, the gyroscopic procession.
[1444.0] Tony: Ooh.
[1445.28] Jack: So, sorry, I'm such a b****, don't worry.
[1450.32] Jack: So things in motion, you know, that want to spin and they want to carry on spinning in their direction.
[1456.48] Tony: Oh, too old for this, I can't even hear you anymore.
[1459.52] Jack: Like a helicopter blade, it spins one way and the body wants to spin the other way, yeah?
[1464.0] Jack: Yeah.
[1464.8] Jack: So if you tilt your tail servo in a direction, that will stop your propellers.
[1473.04] Tony: Ooh, I need a wee again.
[1474.32] Tony: Ooh, we're bladders, wee.
[1475.68] Jack: It's the coffee pot on.
[1477.92] Tony: Where's the slippers?
[1479.04] Jack: No!
[1481.28] Jack: So anyway, good old clean flight.
[1484.48] Jack: You plug your servo into motor channel one, right?
[1488.8] Jack: So you go to your servos tab and you adjust where you want the servo to sit.
[1493.44] Jack: You know, if you don't put it on straight, you can straighten it up on there.
[1498.24] Tony: You've been speaking to David.
[1500.16] Jack: Servo five.
[1502.0] Jack: Who does that?
[1503.04] Jack: Why is it on servo five?
[1504.64] Jack: It's in channel one.
[1505.92] Jack: It's the only one servo.
[1507.28] Jack: It should be servo one.
[1509.2] Jack: Sort it out.
[1510.16] Tony: So what is this?
[1512.16] Tony: So you're going to be a mental person with a mental, I need to say quad then, try.
[1518.64] Jack: Yeah.
[1519.12] Jack: Everyone loves a threesome.
[1522.32] Tony: That's hell.
[1524.24] Tony: I agree.
[1524.8] Tony: It's going to be a good quad.
[1525.92] Tony: Ask Jay.
[1526.8] Tony: You can't get rid of them.
[1528.32] Tony: You're going to have to buy some more of them old drawing lab.
[1531.68] Tony: 1800s then, boy.
[1533.04] Jack: Well, apparently, you know, apparently there are least popular batteries.
[1537.6] Jack: Really?
[1538.16] Jack: I don't know.
[1538.88] Jack: Yeah.
[1539.28] Jack: I don't think people are buying them as much.
[1541.44] Jack: The 14s going out the door.
[1543.12] Jack: 15s.
[1544.0] Tony: 14s are really good because at the moment.
[1546.32] Tony: It's nice and small.
[1547.2] Tony: Yeah.
[1547.44] Tony: Everyone's like 180s, 170.
[1550.24] Tony: So no wonder the 14s going out the door.
[1552.0] Tony: I want another couple before they go.
[1553.84] Jack: I think everyone's just going to, everyone's going really small.
[1556.64] Jack: And you know, the two 80s are the ones for the...
[1559.76] Jack: For the 1800s.
[1561.12] Jack: For the 1800s.
[1562.08] Tony: You're right.
[1562.72] Tony: But they'll all come back around when the summer comes
[1564.64] Tony: and people want to go faster, you know.
[1566.96] Tony: Bigger areas, you know, come back.
[1569.84] Jack: I'm going to miss something to you guys.
[1571.52] Jack: I miss flying big quads.
[1574.48] Jack: You know, like Jay was on about, like...
[1578.32] Tony: Line of sight stuff, big quads.
[1580.08] Tony: Well, not even...
[1580.72] Tony: 450 stuff.
[1581.36] Tony: Not even that, yeah.
[1582.32] Tony: 350 stuff.
[1582.8] Tony: 450 E3, yeah.
[1586.88] Tony: Line of sight acro stuff, you mean?
[1589.04] Jack: Oh no, not even line of sight acro stuff.
[1591.36] Jack: Just, yeah.
[1592.08] Jack: Just like, maybe a bit line of sight.
[1594.16] Jack: But yeah, just those bigger, slower...
[1596.88] Jae: Sometimes they can carry more and you can put more stuff on it.
[1600.0] Jae: So it opens up more options than just a small racing 250
[1604.96] Jae: that only has a camera, really.
[1607.28] Jack: I'm going to...
[1608.32] Jack: I might spend some time with Jay and, you know,
[1611.12] Jack: like board rate and configure and FTDI GPS and connect it to a name.
[1618.96] Tony: Yeah, you might as well put a nose board on it and just...
[1620.88] Tony: Oh, and then...
[1621.68] Tony: Yeah, let's do that, yeah.
[1622.4] Jack: A bit of GPS and it was...
[1624.24] Tony: You might as well have massive, like, gates as you... gates.
[1628.24] Tony: Yeah.
[1629.04] Jae: It's not to race like...
[1630.32] Jack: Fly under a bridge and stuff.
[1632.96] Jack: Do you go to the sleep thinking, or...
[1634.32] Jack: Bridge racing.
[1635.2] Jack: This coming from the man who owns two phantoms and a hex.
[1639.2] Tony: I like it.
[1639.84] Tony: So I like a nice bit of filming as well.
[1642.0] Jae: When did I fly your hex cotter?
[1643.92] Tony: When did I last fly it?
[1646.16] Tony: Like, ages ago.
[1647.52] Tony: I can answer this.
[1649.12] Tony: Hang on.
[1651.92] Tony: Ages ago.
[1653.28] Tony: Does anyone want to buy a hex cotter?
[1655.68] Jae: 3D gimbal.
[1658.88] Tony: DGII motors.
[1661.12] Tony: I can't remember what they are.
[1662.88] Tony: I've only flown it out for the time.
[1663.92] Jack: Single fingers in the KV.
[1665.92] Tony: Yeah, it's not very high KV.
[1668.16] Jack: Adam Juniper.
[1669.36] Tony: I didn't like the yaw on the hex.
[1670.96] Tony: That's the problem, I didn't know.
[1671.84] Jack: Juniper berries.
[1674.0] Jack: Yeah.
[1674.96] Jack: He's released a book, Complete Guide to Drones,
[1677.44] Jack: on Amazon, on Kindle for £9.
[1681.52] Jack: And I did like a little...
[1684.0] Jack: It was quite funny.
[1684.64] Jack: It was painful for me.
[1686.0] Jack: It was like one of the worst times in my quad building life.
[1691.84] Tony: So it's worse than when I'm here.
[1694.4] Jack: Almost.
[1697.12] Jack: So I had to build a quad out of real basic parts.
[1701.6] Jack: I'm talking about buying birch.
[1703.68] Tony: Woodens.
[1704.24] Jack: Yeah, birch.
[1705.92] Jack: Birch ply.
[1707.04] Jack: And I had to be able to cut it with a saw and do everything by hand.
[1710.32] Jack: Yeah.
[1710.64] Jack: And we used the KK Mini.
[1712.56] Jack: And we went out and flew it, took some photos.
[1715.36] Jack: And it was a way of being like...
[1717.44] Jack: If you want to get into quadcopters, you know, or multirotors,
[1721.12] Jack: and you know, this is the simplest things you can build out of.
[1724.24] Jack: It's wood, it's ready, available.
[1725.76] Jack: Yeah, it's quite good.
[1726.64] Jack: They don't have to be perfect.
[1727.36] Jae: I've learned a lot about how they find what they do and what it takes to make them fly.
[1731.76] Jack: And you could not break anything that would cost you more than £10 on that.
[1737.76] Tony: Well, like a flight test do.
[1740.08] Tony: Yeah.
[1740.4] Tony: Did a couple of wooden ones.
[1741.92] Tony: Yeah.
[1742.0] Tony: I can see one here.
[1743.2] Jack: Woodcopter.
[1744.0] Jack: No, just because my booms are wooden.
[1746.08] Tony: Yeah.
[1746.8] Jae: It's quite a popular thing.
[1748.0] Jae: I mean, I remember about four years ago, people were just making frames,
[1752.72] Jae: much more readily than nowadays, out of anything they could build out of.
[1756.8] Jae: Say aluminium or whatever wood.
[1760.16] Jack: Yeah, I just...
[1761.36] Jae: I think that's quite good.
[1762.16] Tony: Is that how you say aluminium?
[1764.24] Jack: Aluminum.
[1766.32] Jack: You know the guy who invented aluminium?
[1769.68] Jack: Like, he used it, he referred to it.
[1771.04] Tony: He come down from space, didn't he?
[1773.04] Tony: Aero 51.
[1774.16] Jae: I do believe that the Americans are right on how they say aluminium,
[1777.92] Jae: because of the original name.
[1779.36] Jae: The British pronunciation, we added I-U-M at the end,
[1783.2] Jae: just to make it fit the other metals, but...
[1785.92] Tony: That's what we do.
[1786.88] Tony: Who's playing that?
[1788.0] Tony: Jack or Jay?
[1788.96] Jack: It's me, it's the log song.
[1792.56] Jack: It's the log song.
[1794.16] Tony: Jay, when are you next down?
[1797.36] Tony: You need to come round and sort Jack out and his music.
[1801.2] Jack: It's the log song from Ren Stimpi, because it's...
[1804.0] Jae: Look, Jack, I'm gonna have to side with Tony on this.
[1807.92] Jae: You do need an overhaul with your musical taste.
[1809.68] Jae: He does, doesn't he?
[1810.24] Jae: It wasn't a track, it was just what we were talking about.
[1812.48] Jae: I know, I think you've been affected by Jurassic Park.
[1816.64] Tony: He has.
[1817.44] Tony: He hums it all the time now.
[1820.64] Jae: Jack, stop it.
[1822.64] Tony: See, he's doing it, isn't he?
[1825.84] Jae: No, but...
[1826.8] Jae: We can fix it, don't worry.
[1831.2] Jack: Adam uploaded a little promo video,
[1833.6] Jack: and I remember going out into a field, and it was nice and sunny,
[1837.04] Jack: and just having a bit of a line of sight.
[1839.84] Jack: And it was good, everything was right in the world.
[1843.04] Jae: Jack, let's do that then.
[1844.24] Jae: Let's build some big quads,
[1845.76] Jae: go out and do some funky things with them.
[1847.28] Jae: I've got one idea I want to do with one.
[1849.68] Jae: It involves lights.
[1852.0] Jack: Have you done us a logo?
[1853.68] Jack: Because if not...
[1854.32] Jae: That's what I'm talking about.
[1856.24] Jae: We can paint one in the sky.
[1858.32] Jae: Yeah, that would be quite good.
[1860.16] Jae: Or rather print one in the sky, but yeah.
[1863.68] Tony: I've got a nice wide-angle lens, we could do that.
[1867.36] Jae: I just need to nut out a smaller controller part of it,
[1869.84] Jae: and a power source for these neopixels slash addressable LEDs.
[1876.72] Jae: And I've got a good idea, but we'll hopefully get done.
[1879.68] Jae: I think I need to upgrade it with the memory to a mega mate.
[1884.16] Jae: But yeah.
[1885.36] Jack: Have you seen what Dan Upton's been up to with the LEDs?
[1890.16] Jack: No.
[1890.72] Jack: Yeah, I've seen you do a post.
[1892.56] Jack: Oh, was it a public post?
[1893.76] Jack: Or were you going to be talking about it?
[1895.36] Tony: I think it was a public.
[1898.0] Tony: I'm not sure.
[1898.56] Tony: You don't have to look for it.
[1899.68] Jack: I think I might have opened my mouth.
[1902.56] Jae: Naughty, naughty.
[1904.0] Jae: Jack, your mouth.
[1906.24] Tony: Dan Upton, if you're out there listening,
[1908.4] Tony: can you come round to Jack's, please?
[1911.6] Tony: Amen.
[1912.64] Jack: Yeah, just invite people over.
[1914.72] Jack: I don't get a say in it.
[1916.16] Jack: I like Dan.
[1917.12] Jack: Dan saved my butt many of times.
[1918.96] Tony: Dan the man.
[1920.72] Jack: Especially with more of my OSD troubles.
[1923.52] Jack: Micro minimum OSD is my least favorite thing in the world.
[1927.68] Tony: You gave that to me on October the 1st,
[1929.76] Tony: which is my birthday, and said,
[1931.52] Tony: oh, I'm going to put this in for your birthday.
[1934.32] Tony: Still not there.
[1935.44] Jack: It's going in this squad.
[1939.44] Jack: Okay.
[1939.84] Jack: It's going in the 250 now.
[1942.16] Jack: If you really want to get on about this.
[1944.48] Jack: Oh, yeah, that's the point.
[1945.52] Jack: You need a video transmitter, didn't you?
[1947.6] Tony: Oh, someone just volunteered one.
[1951.36] Tony: Really?
[1951.92] Tony: Voice of doom.
[1953.6] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[1954.4] Jack: You've got to go and pick that up.
[1956.0] Tony: Where is Rotting Dean?
[1957.68] Tony: There's Simon Bradley live anywhere near.
[1959.52] Tony: Si, bring it around, please.
[1961.36] Tony: Si, you can come around as well.
[1963.6] Tony: Yeah, I know.
[1964.24] Tony: If he's not working.
[1965.12] Tony: Simon Dan Upton, can you come around, please?
[1967.44] Jack: Guys, any last final thoughts?
[1970.32] Tony: Don't play dressing before.
[1973.2] Jack: Jay, are you still here?
[1974.96] Jae: Yeah, I'm still here.
[1975.84] Jae: Last thoughts.
[1978.0] Jae: We're on 6.53.
[1979.28] Jack: Don't waste water.
[1981.68] Jack: Oh, my God.
[1983.28] Jack: Anything?
[1984.48] Jack: Are you upgrading?
[1985.28] Jack: What motor is you running?
[1987.12] Jae: Me?
[1987.6] Jae: Yeah.
[1988.24] Jae: Mine, just DYS 1806.
[1992.88] Jae: We see this.
[1993.84] Jae: I've got a few other bits that I need to just put together
[1995.76] Jae: and then I've got a few capable flying things
[1997.28] Jae: that I can hack about
[1998.08] Jae: and I don't have to worry about
[1999.2] Jae: and I can just have fun.
[2001.28] Tony: I'm looking forward to it.
[2002.08] Jae: But at the moment, though,
[2002.96] Jae: I've been using my transmitter more with FPV Freerider.
[2008.56] Jae: I'm really enjoying that at the moment.
[2010.08] Jack: Yeah, didn't you want to do a shout out
[2012.16] Jack: for people to give you best desert times?
[2015.44] Jae: Yeah, well, just so I've got something to pitch up against
[2018.32] Jae: because I ain't no racer,
[2019.76] Jae: but I'm liking how I can at least improve on myself
[2023.2] Jae: and crash less.
[2024.4] Jae: But it'd be good to like,
[2025.52] Jae: if people knew what times they were getting
[2027.44] Jae: if they could post it up somewhere
[2028.64] Jae: or even on the let's drone out at Google Plus
[2030.72] Jae: on Facebooks or wherever.