=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 16 ===
Title: 16 Oh you fly a Drone, better add you to the pervert list!
Recorded: 2015-12-17
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 1,085
Platforms: SoundCloud (https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/245112289)
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Ugh in the USA if you fly a multiroter the AMA want you to register your aircraft so you can pay them money and then they add you to a list like a sex offender. (The flight offender list)

[0.0] Jack: Yeah, you're listening to Let's Drone Out, I think.
[3.48] Tony: Are you listening?
[5.32] Tony: Right.
[6.64] Tony: Jack and Ori.
[8.0] Tony: Yep.
[8.56] Tony: First, we've got to thank Martin.
[10.92] Jack: Thank you, Martin.
[12.48] Jack: Fossil stuff.
[13.92] Tony: For this mixer, we're trying to still get our edge around.
[17.24] Tony: It's quite complicated, isn't it?
[18.36] Tony: It does so much stuff.
[20.12] Jack: I'm not used to, like, the old mixer.
[23.72] Jack: Do you want to take a photo of the old mixer?
[25.6] Jack: Because, like, the LEDs didn't work.
[28.04] Jack: For what levels it was giving off,
[29.84] Jack: you kind of had to guess.
[31.28] Tony: It must have like a picture of it.
[32.32] Tony: It would come out black and white.
[33.6] Jack: I know.
[35.12] Jack: It was...
[38.2] Jack: It was prehistoric, really.
[40.0] Jack: Like, you know, it was Barringer.
[41.52] Jack: It used to hum and pop and fizzle.
[45.56] Jack: And it smells kind of burnt inside.
[48.44] Jack: And I miss it, but, you know...
[51.52] Tony: This one's lovely.
[52.56] Tony: Look at all the lights flashing and stuff.
[55.52] Jack: It's kind of like NASA in here, all of a sudden.
[59.76] Tony: We've gone NASA.
[61.32] Jack: And it's quite fun trying to teach Tony how to use it.
[65.12] Jack: You know, like...
[65.88] Jack: Teach me. You didn't even know yourself.
[67.76] Tony: I didn't know.
[68.52] Tony: You were pressing buttons.
[69.64] Tony: I know, but...
[70.04] Tony: You're supposed to.
[72.16] Tony: I think we're there now.
[74.16] Tony: I'm not touching anything,
[75.76] Tony: because people can hear us, and I think we're all right.
[78.04] Jack: Right, I am going to put it out now, right?
[81.88] Jack: Next week, it's Christmas Eve.
[84.72] Jack: I'm hoping I can record.
[87.08] Jack: And I'm hoping that we can do an Xmas show,
[91.48] Jack: so that we can get a few people.
[94.64] Jack: I'm going to give up four slots for guests.
[98.68] Jack: OK.
[99.36] Jack: So, two of them are being filled,
[101.48] Jack: and there's another two open on the Skype.
[106.08] Jack: So, you know, anyone who does want to join on the Skype,
[114.32] Jack: and, you know, we can cycle people,
[116.72] Jack: I'll give out the Skype,
[118.64] Jack: brighten until I fly, or one word.
[121.2] Jack: If you guys can add, put in a friend request on the Skype,
[125.68] Jack: I'll add you.
[126.96] Jack: And you log in, and you wait for us to call you,
[129.84] Jack: and people can cycle on.
[131.44] Tony: Who are we going to have in?
[132.72] Jack: Who do you want?
[133.84] Jack: There's two.
[135.16] Jack: I'm trying to get Boris B.
[136.96] Jack: That'd be cool.
[137.84] Jack: Can you hassle?
[139.6] Jack: Or hustle?
[140.68] Jack: Metal Danny to be like,
[142.0] Jack: Yo, come on.
[143.16] Tony: I probably can.
[144.72] Jack: OK, I'll try and get David on.
[146.48] Jack: Maybe.
[147.2] Jack: Yeah.
[148.6] Jack: Neil was going to come on tonight, wasn't he?
[150.52] Jack: Yeah, Neil's on tomorrow.
[152.76] Jack: Adam's up for tomorrow.
[156.28] Jack: I'm logging into the Skype.
[158.52] Jack: So, I've got to silence my Skype.
[163.6] Tony: So, Neil's doing...
[164.64] Tony: Neil, from iDrone, is going to do a little comp for a Christmas comp.
[170.36] Tony: Is that right?
[171.64] Jack: Yeah, apparently.
[172.64] Jack: I don't know what he's going to give away.
[174.36] Jack: Hopefully, you can put it in the chat and let us know.
[176.96] Tony: Let us know, Neil, if you've got any ideas,
[179.2] Tony: what you're going to do for our Christmas giveaway.
[181.56] Tony: Yep.
[183.28] Tony: Neil's going to give away some antennas or two, he said.
[188.2] Jack: Yeah, so, Neil's hoping to stuff things into your stocking.
[194.88] Tony: Sounds promising.
[198.36] Jack: Have you got anything you want to bring up?
[205.16] Tony: Yeah, there's a couple of things I reckon we should talk about.
[208.16] Jack: What's the shark fin thing on the fossil stuff?
[211.84] Tony: Oh, the new horizon.
[213.28] Jack: Yeah, I don't know about that.
[214.96] Tony: It's to protect the antenna at the back.
[219.76] Tony: So, it's like a shark's fin.
[222.2] Tony: I don't know what anyone's calling it.
[223.56] Tony: I'm calling it shark's fin.
[224.96] Jack: Looks like a sonic hedgehog to me.
[226.88] Tony: Well, we could call it a sonic hedgehog protector, if you want.
[230.2] Jack: Yeah.
[230.6] Tony: It's to go at the back of the horizon
[232.52] Tony: to stop damage to the antenna when you crash.
[238.04] Jack: Has it been Tony certified?
[239.84] Jack: No.
[240.32] Tony: Because you can destroy most things.
[243.68] Tony: No, but I have flown the horizon the weekend.
[247.32] Tony: I flew it on Sunday, put three packs through it,
[250.4] Tony: done a G-tune with it, with Bradley.
[253.44] Tony: What's up, Brad?
[254.84] Tony: And he's babysitting at the moment.
[257.84] Tony: Oh, no, bless him.
[258.8] Tony: He was going to come around tonight as well.
[261.0] Tony: Yeah, so it is really, really quick.
[266.48] Tony: Yeah.
[266.96] Tony: It's quick, but it needs tuning.
[268.84] Tony: I mean, even with Jane tuning, we've got problems,
[271.68] Tony: but nothing, I don't think, can't get sorted out.
[275.36] Tony: But it is really, really quick.
[278.4] Jack: Also, guys, let's drone out at gmail.com is the email.
[285.84] Jack: So if you ever want to send photos in to put on the canvas,
[289.72] Jack: topics to bring up, questions, stuff to research,
[294.92] Jack: give us little bits of homework and stuff, let us know.
[301.8] Jack: Right, so that brings me up to my,
[304.8] Jack: I will be on soon, on tube now.
[308.2] Jack: Cool.
[308.68] Jack: Adam Juniper will be, just send us in a message
[312.16] Jack: when you're ready, and we'll have him on to chat for a bit.
[316.28] Tony: OK.
[317.28] Tony: Is that today?
[318.24] Jack: Yep, yep.
[321.08] Jack: What would I type into Google to find out prison time,
[326.8] Jack: the length sentence time?
[329.96] Jack: What?
[331.36] Tony: What have you done?
[333.92] Jack: I haven't done it.
[334.68] Jack: You're the pervert, apparently.
[336.4] Jack: Oh, god.
[337.4] Jack: You know, not to, yeah.
[340.96] Tony: I'm going back to that field with a spotter.
[343.56] Tony: Yeah, nice and legal.
[345.52] Tony: Yeah, and I'm going to just fly around to see if this guy comes out
[349.24] Tony: and calls me a pervert again, and then we can have at it.
[355.0] Jack: Do you want to explain that?
[356.84] Tony: No.
[358.52] Jack: OK, fair enough.
[359.72] Jack: I won't.
[360.56] Jack: Right, determine the sentence under 12 months.
[367.2] Jack: It doesn't tell me.
[368.44] Jack: Right, in America, registering your drone.
[372.24] Jack: Yeah.
[372.76] Jack: What do you think?
[374.12] Jack: Tell them what's happened.
[375.12] Tony: Well, I don't see the point of it, to be honest,
[377.12] Tony: but what is it actually for?
[380.48] Tony: Is it so if you get caught crashing into an airplane
[384.52] Tony: or smashing someone's face in your quad,
[388.2] Tony: or if it falls out of the sky and does damage,
[391.4] Tony: there's a number on the quad.
[393.44] Tony: What goes back to you and your name?
[395.88] Tony: Is that right?
[397.52] Jack: I'm trying to find.
[399.04] Tony: I'm pretty sure that's it.
[401.32] Tony: Bruce Simpson was moaning about it on RC model.
[404.88] Jack: Well, what I don't like is, for the hobbyists,
[412.52] Jack: how many quads have you got?
[414.16] Jack: How many drones have you got?
[415.6] Jack: 10.
[416.44] Jack: 10.
[416.88] Jack: You've got 10 drones, right?
[418.28] Jack: So for the next 30 days, you can register, and it's $5.
[425.68] Jack: So you register, and for the next month or two.
[429.44] Jack: I think it's free for a month, and then they're
[431.28] Tony: going to start charging $5.
[433.08] Jack: Yeah, and then they refund you.
[434.64] Jack: Now, you've got more than one quad,
[436.92] Jack: so you'd want to register yourself.
[441.64] Tony: Yeah.
[442.6] Jack: Yeah, how much is that?
[443.56] Tony: $55.
[445.0] Jack: Yeah, so you'd want to register yourself.
[447.52] Jack: Now, you're on a list, like some sort of sex offender.
[453.12] Tony: So I could be on two lists then.
[455.44] Jack: Yeah, essentially.
[456.52] Jack: Yeah.
[457.04] Tony: You know, so.
[458.72] Tony: I know.
[459.04] Tony: I've told Bruce, what's up, Bruce, if you're listening.
[461.32] Tony: I know you're out in the US at the moment,
[464.64] Tony: and going to start flying our quads.
[467.16] Tony: Sorry.
[467.64] Jack: You need to register.
[468.96] Jack: So I thought this would be way easier
[471.0] Jack: to find a list of, like, crimes and sentences.
[477.88] Tony: So yeah, I don't know.
[480.96] Tony: I mean, if you're going to be a, what is it to do?
[483.4] Tony: Is it to stop terrorists, or what?
[486.36] Tony: Because terrorists just won't register, will they?
[488.6] Tony: No, of course not.
[490.0] Tony: So is it just a money-making thing,
[492.36] Tony: or is it a protection thing for the public?
[495.68] Jack: Let's have a look.
[496.36] Jack: Traceability, Jack's the perv.
[499.32] Jack: Oi, Cody, less of that.
[503.48] Jack: You know, he's got that right.
[504.76] Jack: Yeah, I can post a picture.
[506.44] Jack: If you message whispers, he'll tell you how.
[511.48] Tony: Is it still popping?
[512.56] Tony: I'm going to turn my phone actually off,
[514.92] Tony: so I can't hear nothing.
[516.08] Tony: I don't know why it's still doing it.
[517.96] Jack: Yeah.
[519.84] Jack: Turns out.
[520.36] Tony: It's on silent, indefinitely.
[522.76] Jack: I don't know.
[523.92] Jack: I don't think the terrorists are going to register their drones.
[526.64] Jack: I don't either.
[528.04] Jack: You know, and it's like the other day I watched a little YouTube
[533.0] Jack: video, and they were talking about the problems with cars
[536.12] Jack: that drive themselves.
[537.2] Jack: Yeah.
[538.2] Jack: Bit of a conundrum.
[539.6] Jack: Right, so you program your car.
[541.36] Tony: Take me here.
[542.84] Tony: It runs someone over who's reliable,
[545.8] Tony: who's going to be the one who gets reliable.
[549.32] Jack: No, not really.
[550.52] Jack: OK.
[551.2] Jack: Right, so you're programming it, and you
[554.04] Jack: put nice little algorithms.
[555.72] Jack: I really, is that you?
[557.32] Tony: It's not more, all right, I'm turning the whole phone off.
[559.92] Tony: I can't see anyone.
[561.48] Jack: No, no, stick it under the, yeah, there.
[564.76] Jack: Get under there.
[565.68] Jack: Right, and see whether it's you or not.
[569.16] Jack: Right, so the popping sounds are us.
[575.68] Jack: Right, so you got this car.
[576.92] Jack: Yep.
[577.64] Jack: You've designed the car.
[578.76] Jack: Yep.
[579.6] Jack: You're the designer.
[580.48] Jack: You've programmed it, right?
[582.32] Jack: Yeah.
[583.0] Jack: So, yeah, it's totally you.
[585.04] Tony: It's now, if you will, you can still do it.
[586.96] Jack: Yeah, it's now faint.
[588.32] Jack: It's OK.
[588.92] Jack: They're just going to have to deal with it.
[590.36] Jack: Right, so you've programmed the car.
[593.32] Jack: All right, you've got this scenario.
[594.68] Jack: You're driving the center lane, and a car,
[597.96] Jack: the lorry in front of you has got some cargo.
[600.84] Jack: It comes unscrapped and heads towards your car.
[604.32] Jack: You haven't got enough time to stop.
[606.44] Jack: If you do try and stop, it kills your driver.
[610.84] Jack: Well, you know, the driver of the car.
[612.72] Jack: So the cargo can either hit you, square on, and kill you,
[617.36] Jack: or there's a motorbike either side.
[622.2] Jack: I can actually, I can load the YouTube video up if you want.
[626.52] Tony: Does anyone know what he's talking about?
[628.4] Jack: Right, so there's two motorcyclists either side of you.
[633.92] Jack: One of them's wearing a helmet, one isn't wearing a helmet.
[637.44] Jack: So if you hit the one with a helmet,
[640.56] Jack: they've got a greater chance of surviving
[643.92] Jack: because they're wearing a helmet.
[646.44] Jack: If you hit the other one, they're obviously going to die
[650.0] Jack: because they're not wearing a helmet.
[651.6] Jack: But why should you penalize the person wearing the helmet
[656.92] Jack: because they're the safe one?
[659.36] Jack: So should you...
[661.12] Tony: I'll tell you where you're going.
[662.12] Jack: Should you hit the motorcyclist without the helmet?
[667.52] Jack: Or do you kill your driver?
[669.72] Jack: Who wants to buy a car who will voluntarily kill you as the owner?
[676.68] Tony: Why are we talking about cars again?
[678.92] Jack: Well, I'm just saying, it's penalizing the responsible people.
[683.8] Jack: Yeah, I know what you mean, but that's what they do all the time.
[687.88] Tony: The powers that be.
[688.84] Jack: Yeah, exactly.
[690.6] Jack: Like, you haven't had to register yet.
[692.84] Tony: Do you know, in America, I think you can fly...
[697.04] Tony: Anything RC, you have to register like a plane, a cord, blah, blah, blah.
[701.4] Tony: But I think you can fly a microlight without registering it.
[706.08] Jack: Yeah, I mean, there's...
[708.16] Jack: Hang on, the...
[709.44] Jack: Which I think is stupid.
[711.28] Jack: Hang on, what's...
[712.44] Tony: But is it over how many grams?
[716.2] Jack: Well, it was something over like 200 pounds or something.
[720.16] Jack: 200 pounds?
[721.12] Jack: I don't know, 250 grams.
[723.48] Jack: Yeah, hang on.
[724.44] Tony: So everyone's just going to build quads smaller than that?
[727.64] Jack: Registering a drone.
[732.84] Jack: What do you guys think?
[735.04] Jack: I think it's absolute...
[737.12] Jack: Myself.
[737.96] Tony: Oh, I thought we were trying not to swear to make it easier on your guy for our plane.
[741.56] Jack: Yeah, sorry.
[744.0] Jack: 250, yep.
[745.56] Jack: Limit under half a pound.
[747.72] Jack: Thank you, madhousewife.
[749.6] Tony: So that's what, half a bag of sugar?
[751.92] Jack: I mean, I'm just going to write...
[754.4] Jack: You know, like...
[755.96] Tony: This is not in our country yet, but we're probably bloody full of...
[758.88] Jack: Because we just love America.
[760.88] Jack: Yeah, we do love second one.
[762.8] Jack: Yeah, like...
[766.76] Jack: I've got issues, you know, like...
[770.36] Jack: Because there was...
[772.68] Jack: Look, I build drones for a living, right?
[775.0] Jack: And I'm...
[776.16] Jack: It's almost like I essentially have the ability to be building weapons for people.
[782.52] Jack: You know, like, I build it, sell it to someone.
[788.28] Jack: What's stopping them being irresponsible with it?
[790.64] Tony: Yeah, but people can do...
[792.76] Tony: There's been planes.
[794.4] Jack: The same with cars and planes, but they're registered as well, aren't they?
[799.8] Tony: But RC planes have been around for years, haven't they?
[803.0] Tony: No one's done anything with them yet.
[805.08] Tony: Well, not that I know of.
[809.41] Jack: Unland Aircraft UAS.
[814.37] Jack: Hang on.
[815.13] Tony: They're even saying that you've got to register a tethered.
[819.17] Tony: You know, planes, what people stand...
[821.61] Tony: There's a group of guys over where I fly.
[826.29] Tony: They're like on wires.
[827.85] Tony: They build them and it's just got a wire from their hand to the plane.
[832.37] Tony: And they just spin around and I always take a mic out of them.
[835.61] Tony: Well, in the summer, they go over these old boys and they got their shorts on with their little white socks and their sandals.
[842.77] Tony: And they're just going round and round and round and round and round.
[845.61] Jack: Sorry, Martin.
[846.41] Jack: I just want to apologise for...
[848.85] Tony: But they...
[850.41] Jack: Does Martin wear shorts?
[851.69] Jack: Fossil, do you wear shorts?
[856.45] Jack: Yeah, carry on.
[857.21] Tony: But yeah, that...
[858.49] Tony: Oh, I don't know, you're frying me now.
[861.21] Tony: No, carry on.
[861.81] Tony: Yeah, you've got to register that apparently as well.
[864.69] Tony: A tethered plane, what goes round in circles.
[869.09] Tony: So there's a kite.
[871.13] Tony: Have you got to register a kite, do you think?
[873.05] Jack: Apparently not.
[874.05] Jack: Hang on, we're going through the...
[876.37] Jack: I'm on the FAA.gov, Federal Aviation Administration, right?
[882.49] Jack: What is the definition of a UAS?
[885.37] Jack: It just looks like they're spelling USA wrong to me.
[890.41] Jack: Is it different from a drone?
[891.61] Jack: A UAS is an unmanned aircraft system.
[894.29] Jack: A drone and a UAS are the same for registration purposes.
[900.05] Jack: There's some down here.
[901.45] Jack: I've got to look for it.
[902.21] Jack: See, there's only two of us.
[904.01] Jack: So I can't be like reading and talking at the same time.
[908.01] Jack: I find it very difficult.
[909.25] Tony: Yeah, but I can't look at my phone.
[910.81] Tony: Really?
[911.49] Tony: Because it's making popping noise.
[912.93] Jack: No, go on, I don't even care anymore.
[915.89] Jack: Do children's toys need to be registered?
[918.29] Jack: Not if they weigh below 250 grams or 0.55 pounds or less.
[925.97] Jack: Most toys in the FAA I have identified
[928.85] Jack: at the purchase price of $100 or less
[932.45] Jack: have been turned into weigh less than 25 grams, 250 grams.
[937.33] Jack: One mad thing, like typical Yankee thing that I don't get.
[941.45] Jack: Right, so you register, you pay your five bucks.
[945.33] Jack: You're a good lower abiding citizen.
[947.37] Jack: If you do scratch build, they still
[948.89] Jack: expect you to put it on anyway.
[950.77] Jack: If you register yourself and you're obviously
[952.65] Jack: going to have more than one drone, you get one single number.
[955.69] Jack: It's your license plate for yourself
[957.85] Jack: that carries over to each individual craft.
[962.13] Jack: The annoying thing is if I let you have a go of my quads.
[966.29] Jack: And I crash it into someone.
[968.01] Jack: I'm still liable because if I give you a quad as well
[974.29] Jack: and it's not updated on the register, it's still my quads.
[978.49] Tony: Selling quads is going to be annoying, isn't it?
[980.45] Jack: Not too bad.
[981.77] Jack: You have to get rid of your number on there
[987.09] Jack: and then sell it, but you're still
[988.89] Jack: responsible for updating to say that you sold it.
[990.97] Tony: So has this number got to be put on with a sticker?
[993.25] Jack: Sticker, pen, permanent marker, anything.
[997.81] Jack: They recommend battery compartments, which most racing
[1001.93] Jack: drones haven't got.
[1003.09] Jack: Yeah, I know I am.
[1005.21] Jack: Do you start putting them on your batteries
[1007.41] Jack: and then you lend a battery to you?
[1008.97] Jack: It's got to be on the craft.
[1011.09] Tony: So that's just hope it don't come over to here.
[1014.25] Jack: So get this, like the one for America.
[1017.17] Jack: So you can just register and you haven't got to listen to,
[1019.77] Jack: you know, you haven't got to know anything.
[1023.21] Jack: So there's no IQ test saying, do you know anything about,
[1028.69] Jack: there's no like driving test or anything.
[1031.61] Jack: I don't expect people, because the annoying thing is,
[1034.45] Jack: I always dreaded, I thought, Lord help us.
[1038.53] Jack: How are you meant to learn how to fly a quadcopter or multi
[1042.09] Jack: rotor, I should say, you know, and get proficient
[1046.29] Jack: and then pass, because with the BMFA up in Devil's Dyke,
[1053.93] Jack: you've got to be seen as proficient.
[1056.25] Jack: So you've got to go there and be able to fly on your own.
[1059.73] Jack: You've got to pass a proficiency test.
[1062.17] Jack: And I'm like, well, you've got to then only fly
[1067.05] Jack: with other people around you.
[1069.53] Jack: So, you know, like you've got to learn to fly your nose in
[1072.45] Jack: and that, what happens if that takes you a lot of time?
[1074.73] Jack: What happens if other people don't want to come out with you?
[1076.93] Jack: So luckily they haven't done that.
[1078.57] Jack: But once you've registered, only then do they send you
[1082.17] Jack: information about the rules and regulations.
[1084.69] Jack: So you could just ignore them or just set it to spam box.
[1088.25] Jack: You know, there's no like, you know, you got to register
[1091.25] Jack: and you got to like read through the terms and agreements
[1093.77] Jack: like iTunes or something, and there's none of that.
[1096.25] Jack: I mean, admittedly, most people just skip it anyway,
[1098.45] Jack: but, you know, it wouldn't be helpful, you know,
[1100.69] Jack: it wouldn't be harmful to have like, oh, by the way,
[1104.37] Jack: you know, short paragraphs of don't fly into people,
[1109.17] Jack: don't be on fire, don't be a, I'm allowed to say.
[1112.77] Jack: And, you know, like little, you know, keep away from pets,
[1116.37] Jack: 150 metres away from people, goddamn it.
[1119.25] Jack: You know, stuff like that.
[1120.73] Jack: You know, like a few key points here and there
[1123.05] Jack: on the registration process or like a quick video,
[1126.65] Jack: you know, like, or...
[1128.05] Tony: Well, they might do this yet.
[1129.41] Jack: Yeah, like why send it after?
[1131.57] Jack: Talk about the horse and the bolt and it's run.
[1134.09] Tony: Yeah, it has.
[1136.89] Jack: I've got a crook neck now, says Camel Canuck, UK.
[1144.33] Tony: He's Gem.
[1146.89] Jack: Gem, Gem.
[1148.57] Tony: Yeah, just say Gem.
[1149.93] Tony: Gem.
[1150.77] Tony: Because we...
[1151.61] Tony: I'm sorry, buddy, sorry, Gem.
[1155.05] Jack: I don't know.
[1156.41] Jack: Martin Price says, yay.
[1158.69] Jack: Madhousewife says, it's all good.
[1161.73] Jack: Gem goes, wah.
[1163.45] Jack: But we'll fall over to recording.
[1168.61] Jack: Double's good though.
[1170.77] Jack: He's our German's friend, isn't he?
[1172.61] Tony: Won the fossil stuff.
[1173.77] Jack: Yeah, I wonder how that's going.
[1176.93] Jack: Radio C, our sponsors on iTunes,
[1181.37] Jack: they've released new motors, hellfire motors.
[1183.53] Jack: You had a little look at them.
[1184.37] Tony: Yeah, they look nice.
[1185.21] Tony: The windings look good.
[1187.09] Tony: Kill my name.
[1187.97] Tony: They look really nice.
[1189.21] Tony: Sorry.
[1190.69] Tony: What do you reckon of them?
[1191.61] Tony: The frost tests they were all pulling over,
[1193.93] Tony: or nearly, was it a thousand grams?
[1197.05] Jack: I thought it was a little bit light on 4S.
[1199.73] Tony: Really?
[1200.57] Jack: Mm, I think they could do more.
[1202.45] Jack: I don't know.
[1203.29] Jack: I'm, retest, retest.
[1206.97] Tony: What, you're doing a jack test?
[1208.69] Jack: I don't know.
[1210.17] Jack: I don't know whether they would let me touch anything.
[1212.53] Jack: Because, I don't know, he just wants me to build
[1216.05] Jack: all the time.
[1216.89] Jack: Build?
[1217.73] Jack: Yep, keep building, keep building.
[1220.45] Jack: I officially, like, I think I've built
[1223.61] Jack: the most gravities in the whole of the UK.
[1226.49] Jack: You probably have, haven't you?
[1227.89] Jack: I want some sort of fossil stuff discount.
[1232.49] Jack: Martin, if you're still listening,
[1234.81] Jack: where, can you email me?
[1237.69] Jack: Where do you get the VTX coaxial RPSMA connector?
[1245.25] Jack: Because it's RPSMA right angle
[1248.57] Jack: to bulkhead jack connector.
[1251.69] Tony: I got mine from I-DRAW.
[1253.85] Jack: Yeah, but yours was, yours was SMA.
[1257.53] Jack: Yeah, it was the wrong way around.
[1260.01] Jack: Martin, can you email me where you get your,
[1263.45] Jack: yeah, your SMA, your RPSMA?
[1266.41] Jack: Because I want to get one for Nico,
[1269.17] Jack: and, you know, just have a stop for myself, really.
[1273.17] Jack: Yeah, just have a couple laying around.
[1274.57] Jack: I know you sell them.
[1275.65] Jack: I just wondered, you know, do you make them yourself?
[1279.05] Jack: Because I'm, you know, I'm just stumped.
[1281.53] Jack: Help me out here, Martin, please.
[1284.21] Jack: I'm confused.
[1285.73] Tony: And, Martin, we need to talk about a 180.
[1289.69] Jack: Yeah, well, no, we don't need to talk about it.
[1292.05] Jack: We need to do it.
[1292.89] Jack: We need to draw plans and stuff like that.
[1295.57] Jack: Yeah.
[1296.81] Jack: Okay.
[1297.65] Jack: Because I think, I think, I think,
[1300.41] Jack: I think we can figure out a way to do it,
[1302.17] Jack: where we shorten the arms,
[1303.93] Jack: we could either put the ESCs on the shorter arms,
[1307.41] Jack: or we can stack them upright and have little wedge.
[1312.41] Jack: I want them inside, just the whole.
[1313.97] Tony: Okay.
[1314.81] Tony: It's the whole thing.
[1315.65] Tony: The whole fossil.
[1316.49] Tony: When I walked past the gravity the first time
[1318.61] Tony: and I saw Chris, everything was inside.
[1321.41] Tony: And Andy Grav.
[1322.37] Jack: Where is Andy Grav?
[1324.57] Tony: That's why I liked it.
[1325.81] Tony: So, everything, we're having no,
[1327.81] Tony: nothing on the arms, please.
[1329.65] Tony: It's all got to go inside.
[1331.41] Jack: Yeah, but Neil, they're not RPSMA.
[1333.97] Jack: They're SMA.
[1337.01] Jack: You know, I need RPSMA.
[1340.33] Jack: Sorry.
[1341.17] Jack: Okay.
[1342.01] Jack: I'm still on about that.
[1343.49] Jack: Martin Price says,
[1344.33] Jack: finish the event horizon off first.
[1347.13] Tony: It's gonna take some time.
[1348.33] Tony: But we're still, it's tuning and things like that.
[1351.65] Tony: We are concentrating on that.
[1354.41] Tony: It's just weather, isn't it?
[1355.97] Jack: Yeah.
[1356.81] Jack: It's just...
[1357.65] Jack: I think we need Dan around the table.
[1361.61] Tony: Dan's tied up at work.
[1364.45] Tony: Yeah.
[1365.29] Tony: But there's things we're doing with the event horizon.
[1369.73] Tony: Well, you know,
[1370.97] Tony: it's just gonna take a little bit of time, that's all.
[1373.77] Tony: Like the new shark speed now is gonna come out.
[1376.65] Tony: But it's gonna come out on all of them.
[1378.37] Tony: Yeah, as standard.
[1379.73] Tony: Yeah.
[1381.17] Tony: Ours haven't got them.
[1382.01] Tony: So we're gonna get them sent, put on.
[1384.53] Tony: And there's just little things we need to do.
[1386.13] Tony: I mean, PID tuning for a start.
[1388.21] Tony: I mean, I've done a G-Tune on it, which made it better.
[1390.37] Tony: But of course, you know, we need to run a black box
[1393.93] Tony: or something to make, you know,
[1396.01] Tony: so we can see what's going on.
[1398.53] Tony: But it is blooming quick.
[1401.65] Tony: What about protecting the camera?
[1405.65] Tony: I know.
[1407.65] Tony: We've got that to see, we've got that to figure out.
[1409.93] Tony: Put it more inside.
[1411.29] Tony: I don't know if we're gonna need to protect it.
[1413.21] Tony: I don't know.
[1414.33] Jack: You tend to, with you, you tend to plow into things.
[1419.13] Jack: You know, very well.
[1420.69] Jack: Your last video straight into the wall.
[1423.65] Jack: Yeah, it was good that much.
[1426.09] Jack: Sorry I didn't come out.
[1427.17] Jack: I was just busy.
[1429.69] Jack: I'm not feeling it, you know.
[1432.13] Tony: Me and Brad is right there.
[1434.01] Jack: It's good.
[1434.85] Jack: Keeping it real.
[1435.69] Tony: I'm missing.
[1436.53] Tony: It's cold.
[1437.37] Jack: He was gonna come around tonight.
[1438.53] Jack: But, you know, are we talking more about
[1442.81] Jack: the YouTube channel?
[1444.29] Jack: Do you wanna?
[1445.29] Tony: You can discuss it if you like.
[1447.01] Jack: I wanna, we're gonna start getting some,
[1449.61] Jack: you know, I've acquired some more quick equipment
[1452.01] Jack: to make it happen.
[1453.57] Jack: I think it's so far on board.
[1455.53] Jack: Me, you, Dan, Jay, Brad is,
[1461.21] Jack: and Adam so far.
[1465.41] Jack: Cool.
[1466.25] Jack: And we need to negotiate with Oscar.
[1468.85] Jack: What I wanted to talk about last week,
[1469.81] Jack: and I don't know how.
[1471.85] Tony: I really want Ed on board for the editing.
[1474.41] Jack: Yeah, I think Ed is on board.
[1476.57] Jack: I just, I know how busy he is.
[1479.97] Jack: I'm in talks with Oscar.
[1483.61] Jack: Odin goes, Jack, can I,
[1485.93] Jack: can Tony borrow your open log?
[1491.29] Jack: Yeah, he could do.
[1493.01] Jack: Yeah, you can borrow the open logger if you want.
[1495.21] Jack: Yeah.
[1496.81] Jack: It's just sat right there on the broken nays board.
[1501.01] Jack: Where was I?
[1501.85] Jack: I totally lost track.
[1502.93] Tony: Oscar, YouTube channel.
[1504.25] Jack: Yeah, Oscar.
[1505.09] Jack: I don't know whether Oscar wants to put this out or not,
[1507.53] Jack: but, you know, he says he needs a little bit of a break.
[1510.69] Tony: Really?
[1511.53] Tony: Yeah.
[1512.37] Tony: Is he getting bored of it?
[1513.21] Jack: I don't know, maybe.
[1514.53] Jack: I don't see how.
[1515.81] Jack: He lives and breathes there.
[1517.41] Jack: What else does Oscar do?
[1519.41] Jack: I mean, lots of stuff.
[1520.25] Tony: Where's his bike, goes to work, and flies around.
[1524.37] Jack: So, seriously.
[1526.69] Jack: Me, you.
[1528.73] Tony: What's it called?
[1529.69] Tony: Have we got a name?
[1530.65] Tony: What?
[1531.49] Tony: Have we got a name for the...
[1532.53] Jack: Yeah, Johnny Banting came up with it.
[1535.81] Jack: You told us how to spell it, believe it or not.
[1538.33] Jack: Yeah, only because he was the way I would spell it.
[1540.61] Jack: Yeah, do you want to tell him?
[1542.13] Jack: No, you.
[1543.05] Jack: No, come on.
[1543.89] Jack: No.
[1544.73] Jack: No, come on.
[1545.57] Jack: No.
[1546.41] Jack: You.
[1547.25] Jack: Let's do a competition so you can...
[1549.45] Tony: Johnny knows!
[1553.49] Tony: Have we bought the...
[1556.49] Tony: rights to the URL?
[1560.01] Jack: Yeah.
[1560.85] Jack: Yeah, I bought it.
[1561.81] Tony: Just say it.
[1562.65] Tony: So, we've got that.
[1564.21] Tony: Have we got it on the YouTube channel, though?
[1565.97] Jack: I love, like, Dan's in the chat,
[1567.69] Jack: and I keep calling him Odin.
[1569.37] Jack: It's so funny.
[1571.29] Jack: Who, Dan?
[1572.13] Jack: Yeah, it's Dan.
[1572.97] Jack: What, Dan the man?
[1573.81] Jack: Oi, Dan.
[1574.65] Tony: Oi, Dan.
[1575.49] Jack: What's up, Dan?
[1577.57] Jack: I know.
[1579.41] Jack: It's called Powering On.
[1581.29] Jack: Thank you.
[1582.13] Jack: At last, we were arguing like a couple.
[1583.85] Jack: Fabi's going to love this.
[1585.81] Jack: Fabi's going to be playing it.
[1587.37] Jack: I'm going to be hating it.
[1589.01] Jack: If I get a drone as a gift, do I need to register?
[1591.69] Jack: Yep, unless the drone has already been registered,
[1593.93] Jack: and then you can blame them.
[1595.57] Jack: It has a unique identification number that's not yours,
[1599.21] Jack: and is registered to a different address.
[1602.29] Jack: You should update your registration, name and address,
[1605.13] Jack: and they need to return of your drone, if it is lost.
[1609.57] Jack: What happens if I sell my drone?
[1611.65] Jack: You should log the registration website,
[1615.49] Jack: and update your registration information.
[1617.53] Jack: We strongly encourage you to remove your registration number
[1621.21] Jack: from your drone before the transfer of ownership.
[1624.69] Tony: Let's not panic yet, because it's not in the UK.
[1628.01] Jack: Does it cost anything to register?
[1629.37] Tony: Yep.
[1630.21] Jack: It will do soon.
[1631.05] Jack: Can you imagine how much it's going to cost in the UK?
[1634.97] Jack: Every three years, you're going to get absolutely
[1640.61] Tony: well, and we do that with everything.
[1643.25] Jack: You know, I know like they're going to,
[1645.21] Jack: they're going to give us air tax as well to maintain the air.
[1648.53] Jack: You know what I mean?
[1650.45] Jack: Like road tax.
[1652.21] Jack: Don't don't because you know,
[1653.93] Jack: they're going to work out your emissions.
[1655.97] Jack: You know, there's going to be parking.
[1658.33] Jack: You know, it's going to be a nightmare.
[1660.85] Jack: That's it.
[1661.69] Jack: There's probably going to be speed cameras.
[1664.41] Tony: That'd be cool.
[1665.25] Tony: I'd actually like, actually, no, no, no, no.
[1668.45] Jack: I thought that, no, we're going to get in trouble for that.
[1671.41] Jack: We're liable.
[1672.97] Jack: When the registration process is enforced,
[1675.77] Jack: I will read Tony's registration number out live on air.
[1680.37] Jack: So make sure you tune in.
[1683.45] Tony: T1 FBV.
[1684.65] Jack: Yep.
[1685.61] Jack: Good times, just putting my VTX on now.
[1688.61] Tony: So has anyone going to France this is due Sunday?
[1693.61] Tony: Are you coming, Jack?
[1694.93] Tony: Are you being my tech?
[1696.37] Jack: Yeah, yeah, I'm coming.
[1697.93] Tony: We've got to rebuild the quad tonight
[1699.37] Tony: and put different VTX in it.
[1701.53] Jack: By the way, if you're attending France's event weekend,
[1704.77] Jack: look out for the Christmas parcels
[1706.65] Jack: from iDrone and Jerome Junkie.
[1709.85] Jack: Thank you, Neil Cody.
[1711.69] Jack: Neil had those cables made up for old fossil.
[1719.81] Jack: Oh, right.
[1721.73] Jack: Christmas presents, maybe presents, lol.
[1724.49] Jack: How can I post a picture?
[1726.87] Jack: Email it in to letdroneoutatgmail.com.
[1733.99] Tony: Have we got time?
[1734.95] Tony: Have they got time?
[1735.83] Jack: They haven't, but it can be in next week.
[1737.67] Jack: Don't forget about the Christmas thing.
[1740.47] Jack: If you add onto Skype, oh no,
[1746.07] Jack: brighten till I fly, all one word in Skype.
[1749.99] Jack: If you add me into there,
[1751.99] Jack: you can get the chance to Skype in.
[1755.91] Jack: And have a chat with us.
[1757.59] Jack: And have a chat live, you know,
[1759.63] Jack: because it's Christmas,
[1760.83] Jack: I want everyone to be super interactive.
[1763.83] Tony: I've got your Christmas present coming.
[1765.63] Jack: What is it?
[1766.55] Tony: I'm not telling you.
[1767.67] Jack: Please be a gate.
[1768.67] Jack: I really want a gate.
[1770.51] Tony: A what?
[1771.35] Tony: A air gate.
[1772.19] Tony: I thought you said please be a gate.
[1773.79] Jack: No, I want an air gate.
[1777.19] Jack: I'm not telling you what it is.
[1778.67] Jack: Get the image URL and paste it into chat, whispers said.
[1782.75] Jack: If you want to post a picture, thank you, whispers.
[1787.75] Jack: Yeah, what else?
[1789.79] Jack: We've got seven more minutes.
[1792.07] Tony: Wow, that's gone quick, is it?
[1793.31] Tony: Because we played Braga for half of it.
[1794.99] Jack: Yeah, pretty much.
[1796.75] Tony: That wasn't us, by the way.
[1798.31] Tony: We say thank you to Fossil again,
[1800.03] Tony: because this mixer sounds really good.
[1802.27] Jack: Yeah, if we only fully know how to adjust it.
[1806.07] Jack: Everything's a little bit loud, hopefully.
[1807.91] Jack: We're running it tonight.
[1808.75] Jack: Yeah, I'm loving it.
[1810.83] Jack: Absolutely beautiful, isn't it?
[1813.15] Jack: I keep leaving it out.
[1814.67] Jack: A lot of left it on my bed.
[1815.95] Jack: I slept with it last night.
[1817.43] Jack: Just strutted it.
[1818.79] Jack: Oh, God.
[1819.63] Jack: I slept next to it last night.
[1821.51] Jack: Jack is sleeping with a mixer.
[1823.91] Jack: Question number 52.
[1826.15] Jack: I'd like to point out, how do I find out
[1828.35] Jack: how much my drone weighs?
[1832.59] Jack: That is foremost, Americans.
[1834.07] Jack: I know.
[1837.15] Jack: Why yourself by stepping onto a scale
[1840.59] Jack: and then hold your drone at step on the scale again?
[1845.23] Jack: And then minus your weight from the first initial weighing,
[1849.71] Jack: and then whatever's left is the weight of your drone.
[1853.23] Jack: Thanks, Jack.
[1854.47] Jack: Don't forget to include batteries.
[1857.27] Jack: Everything that flies in the air is what it is.
[1861.87] Jack: Oh, my God.
[1862.83] Jack: Number 53 is better.
[1864.71] Jack: Come on.
[1865.55] Jack: Wait for it.
[1866.39] Jack: 53.
[1867.23] Jack: Is the weight on the box the weight of the drone?
[1871.15] Jack: Oh, for f***.
[1874.39] Tony: So, you know a couple of episodes ago,
[1877.07] Tony: we were talking about flying a printer.
[1880.91] Jack: Yeah.
[1881.75] Jack: That's gonna weigh quite a lot, isn't it?
[1882.59] Jack: Yeah.
[1883.43] Jack: Question 55.
[1884.27] Jack: If a drone crashes in my yard, what do I do?
[1886.79] Jack: Call the local law enforcement.
[1888.59] Jack: No.
[1889.43] Jack: So if you crash your own drone in my yard.
[1892.43] Tony: What, you've got to call the police?
[1893.55] Tony: Yeah, I've got to call the police on you.
[1894.39] Jack: I'm not asking it back then.
[1895.39] Jack: No.
[1896.27] Jack: No, I've got to call the police on you.
[1898.23] Jack: If you crash into your own yard,
[1900.07] Jack: you've got to call the police on yourself.
[1902.67] Tony: Basically.
[1904.67] Tony: Oh, hello.
[1906.71] Jack: If I register and give the drone as a gift,
[1910.15] Jack: am I liable for its use?
[1912.71] Jack: Yeah, laws, liberty, damage drones by state.
[1915.95] Jack: If the gift recipient is a minor,
[1918.15] Jack: some states you may have the liability of the drone,
[1920.31] Jack: if it causes damage.
[1921.51] Jack: First...
[1922.63] Tony: It's just a loan of f***,
[1923.87] Tony: so you've just made this up very quickly, isn't it?
[1926.47] Jack: If I'm a citizen of a foreign country,
[1928.99] Jack: which is us,
[1931.27] Jack: who lives in the United States, that's not us.
[1933.67] Tony: Yeah, so what happens if I go to America on holiday
[1936.63] Tony: and take it?
[1937.67] Jack: You're a terrorist.
[1941.75] Jack: Discuss air mode.
[1943.11] Jack: Boris B, we love you.
[1944.67] Jack: Don't.
[1945.51] Jack: We'll start getting excited.
[1946.51] Tony: Yeah, no, I need to put that on tonight.
[1948.15] Jack: There's not enough time.
[1950.11] Jack: All I will say about air mode is it keeps your PID loop
[1954.87] Tony: going and you're at 0% throttle.
[1958.11] Jack: Yeah, I don't recommend going all the way
[1961.59] Jack: to north central throttle
[1963.39] Jack: and also allows you to adjust your direction
[1968.71] Jack: and tumble in a way.
[1970.63] Jack: That's pretty cool.
[1971.47] Jack: It keeps you in control as you fall out of the sky.
[1974.31] Jack: I recommend assigning it to a separate switch
[1980.23] Jack: because your loop will run before takeoff
[1984.63] Jack: as you arm into air mode.
[1988.31] Jack: So you fly and the loop's already been running
[1993.43] Jack: and also when you come into land
[1995.59] Jack: and you're lowering your throttle,
[1997.31] Jack: it's gonna be a bit clunky apparently.
[1999.11] Tony: Yeah, Brad went through with it the weekend
[2002.19] Tony: and he landed with it on once
[2005.95] Tony: and it was like jumping up and down.
[2007.83] Tony: Yeah, so.
[2008.67] Tony: Bobbing up and down, so yeah, good to switch off.
[2011.75] Tony: So maybe you can get the Taranis to call out a certain time.
[2015.07] Jack: Yeah, and don't forget
[2017.67] Jack: to turn motor stop on.
[2021.99] Tony: Off, isn't it?
[2022.83] Jack: Off, no, yeah, motor stop off
[2026.99] Jack: is you wanna stop the motor from spinning.
[2029.63] Tony: What, what on arming?
[2031.35] Jack: Yeah, for air mode apparently.
[2034.99] Tony: Right, well that's not,
[2035.99] Tony: you're not gonna use air mode in a race anyway, are you?
[2037.83] Jack: I think, anyway.
[2041.19] Jack: Photo of mixer.
[2043.67] Jack: Can you send that to?
[2045.39] Jack: Who wants it?
[2046.83] Jack: Whispers, can you paste it in the chat?
[2049.31] Jack: The URL?
[2050.15] Jack: I don't even know where my phone is.
[2053.03] Jack: Yeah, there you go.
[2055.23] Jack: What else can I say about air mode?
[2058.19] Jack: Praise our overlord Boris B.
[2061.51] Jack: Don't let Mr. Clean Fight know about that.
[2067.87] Tony: No, I can't.
[2069.11] Jack: Just disabling my quad mid-air.
[2072.11] Jack: Lol, Baron Von Riot, I always crash.
[2077.19] Jack: Whisper says don't go to Hawaii, guys.
[2080.43] Jack: Yeah, we'll try not to.
[2082.87] Jack: Any excuse.
[2084.27] Jack: There's boobies.
[2085.11] Jack: Why is there so many boobies?
[2087.99] Jack: Anyone excited about the new Star Wars?
[2090.71] Tony: Yes.
[2091.55] Jack: You gonna, have you been?
[2092.67] Tony: No, I wanna go and watch it.
[2094.39] Jack: No spoilers on here.
[2096.71] Tony: I wanna go and watch it.
[2098.39] Tony: Right, I can't seem to do anything with this.
[2102.19] Jack: I haven't got a photo, so you can't ask me.
[2105.27] Tony: Right, I can't do the mixer in the thing.
[2107.47] Tony: It won't let me work.
[2108.39] Jack: But thank you, Martin.
[2109.67] Jack: Thank you so much.
[2111.27] Jack: You're really helping.
[2112.79] Jack: That's thrown out.
[2113.91] Jack: Sorry.
[2114.75] Jack: No, I'm not.
[2116.07] Jack: Never seen any of them.
[2117.87] Jack: Spoilers, no spoilers, lads.
[2120.51] Jack: Are you going to the Xmas event?
[2121.79] Jack: Yes, we are.
[2122.63] Jack: Catch Tony there.
[2124.15] Jack: Anyone who goes, hey, Tony, you're looking good for 42.
[2128.15] Jack: I'll, I might buy you a Christmas present.
[2130.75] Tony: You're gonna, like,
[2132.07] Tony: swing my elbow profusely at your head.
[2134.59] Jack: Yep.
[2135.91] Jack: I've got a fit of camera and a new VTX tonight.
[2138.83] Jack: Thank you, Tony.
[2142.87] Jack: I'm going to the Xmas event.
[2146.11] Jack: Art, no spoilers, lads.
[2149.03] Jack: Whispers, no spoilers.
[2150.63] Tony: Yeah, I'm taking the horizon to the Sunday event
[2154.91] Tony: because David's coming down and doing some photos.
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