=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 18 === Title: LDO's 1st New years episode Recorded: 2015-12-31 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Adam Juniper, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant Guest(s): Edd Bruce Radcliffe, Simon "Bradderz" Bradley Total audience: 1,036 Platforms: SoundCloud (https://api.soundcloud.com/tracks/245113563) ==================================== We get reflective over the year and talk about whats in-store for 2016. Forgive Jack he's really unwell. [3.09] Jack: Hello and welcome to the show and you're listening to Let's Drone Out. Happy new [7.75] Jack: year everyone. I'm joined by, via the magic of the internet, Tony. What's up guys? [13.89] Adam: Adam Juniper. Hey buds, I'm in Greece so my new year's a little earlier than yours. [19.41] Jack: Yep and Ed Radcliffe. Evening. And everyone's favourite Scooby-Doo [25.65] Jack: character, Bradderz. Hey, how are you all going? Let's start the show. Alright Jack, well maybe you should start out by telling us [32.93] Jack: how well you're feeling today. I, well I no longer feel like I want to die but I [38.09] Adam: do feel like dog poo. Okay, so I want to steer clear away from the mental health [42.85] Adam: issues like I want to die, that kind of thing. You know, throat, nose, that sort of thing. [47.57] Tony: Yeah, unfortunately I won't be talking too much so you guys are going to... Why the hell couldn't you have this when we were all, when you're not away? Why couldn't you have this when you're all with you? [61.09] Jack: I don't know, I think it's... Because then we'd all catch it. Yeah. No, I didn't mean that, I meant because it would be so nice of him just shutting his mouth for five minutes. You can always achieve that with a salad tape over the face. Can someone photoshop that? I'm surprised Fabby's not in the chat, just ripping me. You know, if any of you have seen me on Facebook, you know, they're, they're little reasons why I've got this throat infection. Because you live in Brighton. [90.45] Adam: Yeah, apparently. No, I've read about that but I'm not sure we want to talk about that in front of all the boys and girls at Christmas. No, they weren't Happy New Year. Oh yeah, sorry, yes. Times do move on, Christmas Eve, New Year's Eve. It's a big, big year for Thursdays, isn't it? Yeah, so we've got two new people in, Ed, what have you been up to? I went out flying today with Carlos and Johnny. Are those two troublemakers? Yeah, yeah, troublemakers they are. Didn't do my first tree run there, I was right, really happy. [120.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Yeah, good day and got out there just before the weather went. It's all good. Brothers, didn't it? Yeah, I've been out for the flights most flights last few days. Last time I was out, went down the Hidden Valley, sort of banked it a bit too hard, smashed into a metal gate, this flight of fossil. Last time I was out, I mean, a dog pit. Basically, it's right. Well, he's gone flight control and that could X for our knackereds. [151.17] Jack: But it's back up and running now, so all good. X4R, they're expensive. I hope you washed your hands. [159.81] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Yes, and the most annoying thing, I didn't get any footage. [164.13] Adam: Oh man. Yeah, I know. Didn't happen. You just want that moment of splashdown or squelched down. [171.25] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Was it, was it moist? Guys move on, move on. Obviously people, because of the fossil, it's quite low profile. It was basically, it was the antenna sticking out. [195.01] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Again, I did get a photo because I wanted to get it out as big as bloody possible. [201.41] Adam: I was going to talk about, I don't know if you remember, but just before Christmas, the FAA in [206.61] Adam: the US was saying that there would be a million drones in the skies after Christmas and that all [211.57] Adam: Americans should be on alert for, you know, the serious risks and dangers that they've posed. [216.37] Adam: And that they're now trumpeting their massive success of their registration scheme by telling [221.09] Adam: us that 45,000 people have registered. So is it massively unsuccessful or were they hugely [226.85] Adam: exaggerating about the million drones, do you think? So what's the penalty if they don't register? [231.57] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: I mean, obviously, I suppose there isn't one until something actually happens. [235.97] Adam: Penalties in the US generally depend on your skin colour. Controversial. No comment. [246.77] Edd: No, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure. This was covered on a flight test podcast a couple of weeks [253.33] Edd: ago, and their conclusion was it's just no matter what the fine is. And there are some [261.41] Edd: big fines that sort of roll up into the thousands, but it's just not policeable. Who is going to [268.37] Edd: report who? How do you even know who it belongs to? It's not as if we all put our name and address [273.57] Edd: on a drone. And then they sort of quite rightly worried about, you know, if you're known by your [280.21] Edd: neighbours to be into the hobby. And then John Smith from across the road flies, flies his [285.73] Edd: brand new Christmas drone and it hits into your neighbour's nice shiny new car. You know, you're [290.45] Edd: the one that's going to, the assumption is going to be you that it belongs to you. And they're [294.45] Edd: worried that in the US that they'll have, you know, that assumption will then, you know, be part of [299.57] Edd: part of all this big stitch up there and their feeling at the moment. It's all just, it hasn't [304.45] Adam: been well thought that thought out at all. I did notice there were some guidelines for police [309.25] Adam: officers floating around that talked about evidence being crucial. And I'm sure that's going [314.69] Adam: to be the same in the US to actually get a decent conviction. Is any conviction decent? [321.49] Adam: Well, a successful conviction. I mean, that people are going to fight it. [327.65] Adam: Yeah, absolutely. I think it's the numbers though that interest me. Yeah. Yeah. The [333.49] Adam: sheer disparity between the million drones, which is, you know, one drone for every 300 Americans [338.93] Adam: seems very unlikely. And then under, you know, the few thousand who actually have registered, [346.61] Adam: I'm sure that's much closer to the real number. Storming a teacup. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. [353.25] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Tony, you're going to have to change your event because you've got no chance, [356.93] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: I did not want to do one written on the side. I see what you mean. Yeah. The event horizon [362.21] Tony: with my name written. Yeah. That's Tony's. Yeah. Sponsorship sucks all of a sudden. [369.25] Jack: It's always pretty safe, aren't they? Yeah. Every, if we do have to do this registration thing, [374.69] Jack: every quads that I sell to random people, you know, that I build through radio say, [380.29] Jack: I'm just going to write all your names in the inside of them. [383.49] Jack: You know, my one's got Tony written in it. [388.61] Jack: That's it. Thanks. Every serial number, but my own I'm going to use. Most people are pretty decent [395.49] Adam: though. I mean, maybe that'll help people recover it if it gets lost. Yeah. Guys, if they crash it, [400.85] Edd: you get it. The other thing they were talking about is the, with the registration, I think it's [405.17] Edd: got $5 at the moment and that's an open, an opener. Where does that end? And if that comes here, [412.69] Edd: with our government and the way they are at the moment, taking from the bottom. [417.33] Jack: It won't be five bucks, will it? Oh, no. It'll be your mother, your kidney. Oh, I'm down with that. [424.85] Jack: That's it. Get the lubricant out. I know. Why are they adding us? Kidneys are just going to be [431.25] Jack: a strain on the NHS administering them. Yeah. Cash. No checks. It makes me laugh. Like [440.45] Jack: Savile didn't get put on a list, but we're going to have to sooner enough. [445.01] Adam: In fact, Jimmy Savile was dead by the time he got found out. He even had a knighthood. [449.65] Adam: Well, there you go. That's a kind of a list. [454.45] Jack: I love having Adam on here. He's so hot buttoned. [458.45] Jack: So hot buttoned. He's even worse than me. It's great. No one can be as foul mouthed as you, [463.49] Jack: Jack. I haven't sworn. You don't need to. Yeah, I suppose. What about that insurance article? [470.45] Jack: Anyone read that? I didn't. No, what was it about? Can't talk. Somebody else tell us what it's about. [477.89] Jack: I don't know what it's about. I haven't read it. Crying out loud, guys. Home insurers rush to [484.13] Jack: exclude drones as Christmas sees popularity soar. Can the underwriters have seen foreseen the risks [491.01] Jack: of drones falling into the hands of amateurs, fools and children? That's all of us then. [497.81] Jack: Yeah, apparently. Home insurers are rushing to exclude drones from their policies, as experts [503.33] Jack: will, and that those who buy them for gifts or others could be liable for privacy and personal [509.09] Edd: injury claims. Well, how can we ensure something that we know is going to get damaged anyway? No [515.09] Edd: one's going to touch it with a large pole. No, no, no. They're excluding it from your home [520.37] Jack: insurance or personal insurance. Yeah, I don't see how they're insurable, to be honest. What, [526.05] Jack: you and your home, of course your home's insurable. No, no, no, no. What, are you saying [529.65] Edd: that my home isn't going to be insured if I own a drone? Are you sure you've read that right? [535.25] Jack: No, right. You've got home insurance, right? Yeah. And say someone doesn't put the handbrake on their [541.73] Jack: car, or their car rolls into the side of your house and cause structural damage, right? That [549.25] Jack: is included because it's not lightly or a common thing that's included in your insurance. [555.41] Jack: They'll pay for a bear to your house, but if some [558.85] Jack: crashes are draining through your window, you can't claim it through your house insurance. [563.33] Jack: So they're sneakily writing that in very quickly. Is it going to make any odds though? Because we're [568.37] Edd: not allowed to fly near houses, are we? I know, but... You're talking about ******* aren't you? Yeah, [575.57] Jack: you know, they're talking about ******* kids and everything. There's quite a lot of them out there. [581.81] Jack: Yeah, of course. I saw someone from Essex fly their drone that they got from Christmas [591.01] Jack: and line a sight and then lost it and that was it. Wow. First time. Why don't people go to an [599.89] Tony: open field, man? At least for their first time. Yeah. People just want to get out on it, [606.21] Jack: don't they? Think about it. Or tether it, you know. That's what I'm going to do when I'm, [610.77] Jack: like, once I've built my GPS, you know, return to home, I'm going to get Nico with a fishing rod [621.89] Jack: and if it decides to go back to China, even though it was built here, I'm going to get [627.49] Jack: him to hold on to it, load up a new model and fly my 250 into it and bring it down. [634.21] Jack: Safety. I hope you'll be in the middle of a field, Jack. Of course. Probably somewhere deep and low [641.89] Tony: down like Chico Valley. I've just uploaded my yearly video if any of you guys want to watch it. [647.97] Tony: Oh, you have. You need to grab a couple of beers because it's quite long. 33 minutes. Yeah, man. [657.57] Jack: Oh my God. It took me seven hours to edit. Jesus. That's very narcissistic, Tony. [666.85] Jack: Talk about yourself. I just want to show the world what I do. Share the love. I like, [674.77] Tony: like, if you guys done a 30 minute video of your year, I'd love to sit down and watch that. I look [680.13] Tony: forward to listening and watching YouTube videos more than more than films and any of that rubbish. [688.45] Edd: So are you proposing to have a video off next year, maybe Tony? Now we know it's a competition. [693.73] Edd: You can do if you want. Best videos, public vote or public competition, full stop, year [699.81] Edd: a year video of stuff. What would the prize be? Jack for an afternoon. No, leave me out of it. [707.09] Tony: That would be a lovely prize. Jack, build you a quad for free. How many quads do you reckon [712.85] Jack: we've actually built, Jack? Millions. I put the girls at Foxcom to shame. So I've got a newbie [720.45] Edd: technical question. You guys are up for it. Yeah, go on. You're not a newbie. I've seen the way you [725.57] Edd: fly. You're better than me now. Not anymore. Not anymore. Okay. Well, kind of, you know, graduating, [732.21] Edd: if you like, to do with latency on the controller. In fact, you mentioned that expensive receiver [736.77] Edd: earlier. So I was looking at bringing down the latency between stick and action. And I've got [746.85] Edd: everything. Is it CPPM? Is that right? Just one cable. And apparently there's this faster protocol. [752.29] Edd: And all the experienced guys now are going, who let the noob on the radio? But there's a lot, [756.85] Edd: there's probably hopefully there's some people out there that are going, what was this about? And [761.25] Edd: I've only just switched on to it myself. And I don't know much about it. And the whole, the [766.13] Edd: internet just seems to be a world of many, many different opinions. I was wondering if you guys [770.85] Tony: are flying anything else other than CPPM. I'm rocking an S bus. Right. I rock both of them. And [779.25] Jack: really, there isn't that much difference. There's something like 23 milliseconds, something like [785.65] Jack: that. Exactly. Totally, really tiny. There's something your ears can pick up on. So I'm just [792.37] Edd: wondering whether, whether other senses like sight and, you know, eye coordination would be [799.41] Jack: able to pick up on that as well. Yeah. I mean, it all, it all counts, you know, like loop time. [808.05] Jack: So yeah, so if you lower your loop time, that helps. If you free up more processing power, [816.77] Jack: so it can go amend the controlling, but run everything live, you're running LEDs and stuff. [826.45] Jack: And, you know, little things like serial ports, not serial, soft serial. So like the thing is with [837.41] Jack: S bus is that you've got on, on the nays, you've got two IC2 ports or IC squared as Dan Upton would [847.25] Jack: say. God bless Dan Upton. God bless that man. God bless Dan Upton. Now, the thing is with [855.41] Jack: beautiful nays board is that your first, your first UART port is shared with your USB connector. [866.61] Jack: Okay. So, and we tend to use that one for the OSD on your, so like, if you're running a [874.93] Jack: micro minimum OSD, you've always got to make sure you unplug it before you plug it in. Because if [880.53] Jack: you try and connect and it's using that port for your OSD, you mess it up and it will, it will pass [889.57] Jack: the video through, but it won't display your OSD. So you have to reset it all. That makes you want [893.81] Jack: to rip your **** off. And the other, I'm allowed to say ****. Right. So then you've got the second [900.69] Jack: port, which ideally was meant to be used with telemetry. Now, if you move over, if you use S bus, [906.53] Jack: you have to use your UART port to set that to a serial RX so that you're putting a digital signal [913.65] Jack: in from your S bus. So then if you want telemetry to be like, Hey, you know, like I need to know my [919.89] Jack: battery voltage or V-bat, then you've got to open soft serial ports and that kind of, that wrecks your [927.57] Jack: loop time. And you've got to be careful that like, if you're using an open logger, it's got to be fast [933.25] Jack: enough board rate to save the data that your flight controller is running. You know, like your stick [939.97] Tony: settings and everything. Is this why everyone wants to start using EF3 board now? Yeah. Because that has [947.49] Jack: two, I think two extra ports, UART ports, I think two, one extra. How many brothers? I should know. [955.49] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Three and then also six, eight promoter outputs or pins or whatever you want to call them. Yeah, [961.89] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: not that everyone. But talking about that as well, the F1 boards of some quite into Boris at the [967.41] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: moment, obviously, air modes now come out into final, but they're looking at pushing the F1 board [974.29] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: to obviously its full potential. Is that two gigahertz? Obviously, you're talking about, [979.33] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: obviously you need to disable a lot of things to make sure that the process is still there. [983.09] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Yeah, even your accelerometer. What's going to need done with an F1. Yeah, with an F1 target [987.81] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: accelerometer and magometer has all got to be disabled. And obviously, you still got to be [993.89] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: careful with what else you're using, which is quite cool, to be honest. But yeah, to be honest, [998.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: it's looking at forwards. I reckon we've got to start using F3s. Yeah, or F4s. I'm using the [1005.81] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: SP3 at the moment. But again, obviously, it's not really recommended because you can tell it's been [1014.53] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: designed by a software developer rather than a hardware developer. Well, you're off, you're off [1020.69] Jack: Clifton's Christmas list. Yeah. And also with that board, it's been manufactured very poorly [1029.89] Jack: by like the worst manufacturer in China. Little things like the USB connector has been falling [1038.85] Tony: off and stuff like that. What board are you talking about? Seriously Pro. Quite a lot of [1046.93] Jack: people moaning about that, aren't they? Yeah. The cool thing is Whisper says it will never catch on. [1052.05] Jack: Yeah, you've got the Dodo board, which is an F3, but it doesn't have an extra U-up or, [1058.29] Jack: I don't think, I think it's only got two. A lemonade board's looking quite cool. Yeah. And then [1063.41] Jack: I've heard the tornado board's really good, but you can't get hold of them and they're very expensive. [1068.45] Tony: If it makes you fly better, it's worth buying it, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, stuff's moving on. [1074.61] Tony: In this game, it moves on every two weeks. It's crazy. It changes all the time. I can't keep up [1080.85] Jack: with it. It does my head in. I used to keep up with it really well. And then, you know, like, [1087.09] Jack: I'm in Radio C two days a week. That's not giving you an advantage, [1090.77] Adam: hasn't it? Hey, Adam's back. He is back. I've been politely listening for a bit because I [1094.61] Jack: didn't know quite where I joined. Yeah. Because I'm in there and I'm trying like, [1100.69] Jack: I'm now looking up other people's problems, like, you know, that come in during, you know, [1107.09] Jack: my days there and stuff. And, you know, I'm looking to try and solve them rather than looking at all [1112.85] Jack: the new technology. Because like, Triflite has got like the new quadcopter software that kind of is [1120.21] Jack: based on the Boris B has got like a tail auto tail tune. I had no idea. I bet you wet your knickers. [1128.77] Jack: I had a raging. Sorry, guys. The laptop no longer balanced on my lap. I was so excited. [1138.93] Adam: It's internet radio. You can say what you want. There's no government. Yeah. [1143.33] Edd: Admittedly, you might end up on a register. Yeah. Yeah. All this stuff that's moving on [1147.89] Edd: at a million miles an hour. I've only just started to find my feet, so to speak, with [1154.45] Edd: the nays five, little bees, Boris, and it just feels great. It feels really fine. And [1161.25] Edd: it's so difficult not to lay yourself to get consumed by hype about the next product that [1167.81] Edd: comes along. Because really, I can only imagine that they're very marginal performance increases, [1173.41] Edd: especially for those of us that fly Acro as well. Because it's, you know, I can't imagine the jump [1179.33] Edd: is so big that it's going to revolutionize your flying. And if it is, then I would question [1185.41] Edd: whether that's the processor doing that, whether it's actually you as a pilot doing that. It just [1191.97] Adam: seems a bit weird. There are always people who can, you know, they read something might be a bit [1197.33] Adam: better. They want to go and buy it. And they don't necessarily know for sure it is until they've got [1201.89] Adam: it. And then you've got to remember there's something called confirmation bias, which means [1205.81] Adam: when you've bought something, you're gonna think it's better. You're gonna tell people it's better, [1209.97] Adam: whether it is or it isn't. Yeah, because you want to, you want to be right. Yeah. Can I, can I just [1217.65] Tony: ask something? So if the nays 32, I can't tell the difference between S bus and PPM, CC PPM, [1227.17] Tony: on the nays 32, will I be able to tell the difference if I use an F3 board? Do you think [1233.89] Tony: having an F3 board will make me be able to tell the difference between S bus and C PPM? Because at [1241.41] Tony: the moment I fly two different quads and I cannot see the hype about S bus. But it will make you more [1250.21] Adam: attractive to women. That's the basis of all good advertising. Okay, right. We know, we definitely [1256.93] Jack: know S bus is better, right? So for a start, on what point they on stats or on physical flying? [1264.61] Jack: Well, on, I'm gonna go for stats for the moment. Right, so every, every little improvement helps, [1270.69] Jack: right? So you've got lower loop times, you've got your ESCs, you know, the new, the new speeds that [1277.81] Jack: it can handle via the BL Heli software all helps all these little improvements bit by bit, shaving [1284.77] Jack: weight, better batteries, more C, so more current being delivered, all, it all adds up. You know, [1292.29] Jack: we're getting into the sort of formula one kind of thing where, you know, we're using carbon fiber, [1297.49] Jack: we're drilling more holes, making stuff lighter, squeezing more and more performance out and it [1303.33] Jack: all, all adds up. Now, with your, with your board, the biggest thing that I noticed from PPM to S bus [1311.65] Jack: was that on PPM, your numbers on, on the receiver inputs would twitch and flicker, you know, [1323.97] Jack: they wouldn't sit at 1500. Now, your board has got something called a dead band in it. And what [1333.33] Jack: you meant to do is look how much those numbers flick, flicker up and down and you'd count them [1338.61] Jack: in each direction, add them together, and then maybe set dead band underscore equal, no, not [1345.81] Jack: underscore equal 10, for instance, you know, because it would flicker five each way, just to be on the [1353.89] Jack: safe side. Now, that, that flickering, unless you set your dead band, that's taking up processing [1362.37] Jack: power. Cool? You know, because your board's being like, oh, you want to go left a bit? Or you want [1368.21] Jack: to go right a bit, you know, so forth. Now, S bus eliminates that sits quite nicely locked in, [1375.97] Jack: it might flicker one or two, depending on which protocol you use. Now you've got that, [1380.37] Jack: and it's a faster digital protocol, that's all adding up and your boards no longer looking for [1387.01] Jack: micro, yeah, like micro changes. And the other, the other side of it is because no, you no longer [1394.77] Jack: have that dead band where you're having to move that, that stick out of that dead band. So you're [1399.65] Jack: having to move it 10 plus whatever, and then it starts doing your inputs, you can set your dead [1406.21] Jack: band much tighter so that when you do move the stick, and my new amount, it starts registering [1412.45] Jack: instantly. Yeah, so it all, it all adds up little by little, you may not notice it, yeah, but it all [1419.41] Jack: adds up, you know, and then like, because Boris made loads of little changes in the software and [1425.81] Jack: dropped that, that down, you noticed that because it was one big changeover, you know, you went back [1431.81] Jack: to the gravity to 18, you were like, I don't know how I used to fly this. But equally, right, [1439.25] Jack: if it's working for you, and you haven't got much money, and you're enjoying it, there's no point [1444.21] Jack: in making all these changes, and then you having to get used to a quad, I would kind of like buy up [1449.89] Jack: some spare parts, if you start breaking stuff, switch stuff out, you know, and always kind of [1455.65] Jack: upgrade yourself and treat yourself, you know, because the quad is gonna have to be taken apart [1460.21] Jack: and changed and fixed. Tell me, Jack, where's the best place to get new bits from? Radioc.co.uk [1467.73] Adam: Nice plug, Ed, nice plug. Yeah. A bit of a wait though, before we gave that answer. Yeah, and use the discount code [1475.81] Tony: LDO for five percent off. Ken, Brad has just talked about, he set my ESCs on my horizon, [1485.97] Tony: because I was just using clean flights to set my... What I've noticed with doing it through clean [1491.17] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: flight, obviously, motor tab, obviously, push all four motors to the top, obviously enable it, [1497.41] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: put the battery in, let it do its BP, and put it to the bottom, let it do its BP, and it's done. [1502.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: But with BL Heli, obviously, if you connect to the ESCs on BL Heli, [1508.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: press check, obviously make sure it's under on clean flight, and yeah, basically, if you do [1516.85] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: calibration in clean flight, and then go to BL Heli, do a check, and at the bottom, it will give you [1522.61] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: one to four, obviously ESCs one to four. If you're on Boris, only if you're on Boris. Yeah, well, [1529.41] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: you should be on Boris anyway. Basically, it will give you a colour coded one to four at the bottom. [1539.89] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: If any of those colours are grey, it means that they're out of sync with the master, [1544.53] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: which is number one, calibrate, and then check it, they will be out of sync. Two of them will be [1549.97] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: out of sync by around 0.4 to 0.6. Now Tony had these quads, and we checked it, and it was, again, [1558.37] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: what I said, it was out, I think Tony's was out 0.4. I've had exactly the same issue, I've had people [1563.41] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: say that when you do the calibration in a thing, make sure you do it in rate mode, but I don't [1568.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: really understand how that would make difference, but if you can, just do it manually, just set them [1573.89] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: up, 1000, 2000, or 120, you know, 1020, 1980, and then yeah. Brad, does that work, does that work [1582.61] Edd: through the, I've got my, I can access my ESCs through the USB port on the nays, does that work [1589.09] Jack: through there? I was just agreeing with you, yeah, you've got to explain yourself way more. [1598.45] Jack: Yeah, BR Heli using, the BR Heli suite using Boris B, because that allows you to have one wire pass [1606.45] Jack: through, and he's on about calibrating all the ESCs, and you can set a master, and the rest [1612.05] Jack: all become slaves, and what he's doing is setting his PPM times, and syncing them all together. [1621.17] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Yeah, so every ESC has got the same value, which it should do, for some reason clean flight doesn't [1627.25] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: do that. Yeah, I found that as well. You can also, maybe not clean, but beat a flight anyway, so I [1633.65] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: don't use clean flight, so. Well you are using clean flight. Well yeah, I am, but you know. God, [1639.01] Jack: are you, do you want to just like go on Facebook, and just call Dominic, and you know, just be like, [1645.01] Jack: oh by the way, I hate you. Boris forever, he's going to ban you, he's going to find your IP address, [1652.21] Jack: and be like, you can't connect to the App Store anymore. But it really worked for me Jack, [1656.77] Tony: it was really good, because when I took the event horizon out for a G-Tune, me and brothers were out [1663.33] Tony: testing it, and we could fit, you could see it pull into the left, so one ESC was working stronger [1669.89] Tony: than the other ones, and then we put it on BR Heli, and leveled them all out, and it wasn't pulling so [1674.77] Tony: hard, so it's really, it's so much better than doing it through clean flight. That's basically [1679.81] Jack: what we're saying. If you can check them in BR Heli, check them. Yeah, you can also lock your [1685.01] Jack: settings from it doing that, is you've got a little tick box at the top, programmable by TX. [1692.29] Jack: If you untick that box, and save it, you'll no longer be able to calibrate your ESCs via the [1700.21] Jack: clean flight sliders, and you can just manually input the number yourself, and save it, so that [1707.89] Jack: you know that you've got all the same values. I hope that makes sense in BR Heli Suite. [1713.41] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: As well, while we're at it, don't be afraid to upgrade BR Heli, because you don't lose your [1718.45] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: settings. It's literally an upgrade, upgrade the, well say ESC1, and once it's finished upgrading, [1727.25] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: it will ask you whether you want to save your existing settings, obviously press yes, [1731.33] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: and your ESCs just obviously had an upgrade, but it stays with the same settings, so [1735.73] Jack: yeah, don't be afraid not to upgrade them. Yeah, and you need to keep them updated as [1744.85] Jack: much as possible, because with like the newer software and stuff, you're relying. Especially [1750.61] Jack: flying with DYs. Sorry, I had to put that in there. Are you flying with what ESCs are you [1756.85] Jack: got Ed? I've got little Bs, and I've got DYs 2200s. Yeah, so the SN20s, ESCs, they've got, [1767.57] Jack: there's two different kinds of chips. You've got a Scilab chip, and you've got an Atmel chip, [1772.69] Jack: and with the Atmel chip, you can't use the one wire pass through, and the Scilab chips tend to [1779.09] Edd: run a little bit faster. So Martin has configured my quad for me, and I can use that one wire [1786.85] Edd: pass through for BL Heli, so yeah, it's good. Although, although I'm struggling to find a [1798.85] Edd: copy of BL Heli Suite for the Mac, so I'm having to dual boot my computer all the time just to [1805.33] Jack: get on that. Is anyone working on that, do we know? No, I don't know. I don't think so. [1809.73] Jack: It totally does my head in, you know, like I have to run two computers, drives me nuts. [1816.69] Adam: All right, your question, because I refuse to have dual boot on my Mac, [1820.77] Adam: so is there stuff I genuinely can't do? Yeah, pretty much. On a virtual machine. [1827.09] Edd: Yeah, but then... Parallels. Parallels needs bootcamp installed though. Both of them use a [1833.97] Adam: whacking great big chunk of drive space, because you know, you need another operating system. [1839.89] Adam: Yeah. And not to mention that theoretically, at least you have to pay for it. [1845.09] Edd: Yeah, it is the worst. I do, yeah. So it's the only thing. Do we know anyone who works with BL Heli? [1853.01] Jack: I knew the developer, he's got a funny name. It's crazy. It's something... [1857.97] Edd: I'm sure he'll really appreciate that. He's definitely not developing for Mac now. Thanks, [1863.01] Jack: Jack. No, his cool name is like, you know... Backpedal. Oh, shut up. It hurts anyway. [1874.77] Jack: No, it's two letters and a couple of numbers. And it's like, no wonder I don't know who this guy is. [1881.73] Adam: That's not a real name. That's not like... That's a Zekon Bebo-Roxy fake name. Yeah, [1886.53] Jack: that's what I meant. You know, that's why none of us know. Oh my God, Tony's video is still [1890.69] Adam: playing. I'm only halfway through. Speaking of videos, has anyone been watching any of the various [1899.41] Adam: things of, you know, drone footage people have taken for the floods? It's amazing. Oh yeah, [1906.21] Adam: that's all right. You don't complain about that. And yeah, that is exactly what I was going to say. [1912.05] Adam: You don't have anyone going at the same time going, well, this drone nearly crashed into some air. [1918.77] Jack: Or water. Yeah, I know. Like, you're risking your quad. Like, it's raining and that. I'm like, [1923.17] Jack: oh my God, that guy's flying in the rain. What about his ESCs? I've really gutted that drone's [1928.21] Edd: recording footage for insurance purposes for me. Yeah. Did you see this? Oh yeah, the other thing, [1935.17] Adam: the Jack's piece of news about insurers rushing to make clear that they're not covering drones, [1940.45] Adam: got that. Yeah. I mean, I would have thought that was obvious because it's almost impossible to [1947.09] Adam: cover something that you can power into a tree to give an example of something I've never done. [1953.41] Edd: Well, I wonder if they've put it under act of God, which obviously elevates all our statuses [1958.77] Adam: quite nicely. To God, I'm down with that. Yeah, but in the sort of old school Greek gods who can [1964.21] Adam: hang around at the top of a mountain and fight with each other rather than one true [1969.01] Adam: Lord of the world, modern God. In that there are more than one of us, is all I'm saying. Guys, [1975.01] Jack: I got a funny little story because like, you know, all us, we kind of like buy absolutely [1979.01] Jack: everything online. Have any of you gone into an actual shop lately and tried to buy anything? [1985.57] Adam: Anything at all. Yeah, anything because I went into Waterstones. That's Jack, I did. Yeah. I went [1990.53] Jack: into Waterstones to buy a book. All right. And I went in there and I almost bumped into a really [1995.97] Edd: cute girl. That was my book, Jack. Yeah. Yeah. What is the name of your book, Adam? Oh, my guide to [2001.97] Adam: drones. That is what he was buying. Yeah. Excellent. So it sounded like a fiver on Amazon. Yeah. [2010.61] Jack: Yeah. But if you go into a real shop, it's 20 quid. Um, so I went in there and then this girl [2015.73] Jack: came back. She's like, Oh, can I help you? And for a laugh, I said, have you got any books on how to [2020.61] Jack: start a cult? And she, she went, asked her colleague, have we got any books on how to start [2025.81] Jack: a cult? And then proceeded to look it up on the computer. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no. I, [2031.25] Jack: I need totally wasted. Totally. Did you, um, I mean, did they, or did you stop? I didn't, [2038.13] Jack: I stopped her beforehand. Because I think there's a lot of money in starting cults. [2042.53] Adam: Well, that's what I thought. Now, now with our new God status. Yeah, exactly. [2048.37] Jack: I think we should look into it. If, if I eat just a little bit more, I could definitely go into [2053.25] Adam: Buddha kind of status. Oh, no, I think I'm definitely winning that. Um, rub my belly for [2058.93] Adam: good luck. Yeah, I'm done with that. Or don't, depending on how I feel about you. [2064.53] Adam: This is how Jack got his way in freshman. [2068.13] Jack: That's how a horse starts. [2071.17] Tony: Well, they did spend the weekend together. [2075.57] Jack: Mate, I don't know what you're on about. You and your, what you were meant to be up to in your [2079.89] Jack: hotel room with, um, uh, what's his name? Oh God. I think I'm insult someone again. [2091.01] Adam: It sounds like we might be about to label somebody. Yeah. [2095.09] Jack: He's always chatting. Oh God. Hang on. Johnny Banton. That's it. I reckon you've got a little [2101.57] Adam: bromance going on. Oh, fossil team. Me and Johnny. Yeah. Did you see about the, uh, Korean, uh, [2110.05] Adam: racing news and the news? Yes. What the news actually covering something? The news actually [2117.81] Adam: covered link sent, um, the, uh, gig erasers in, uh, Korea. Um, they took it very seriously. They [2126.61] Adam: were saying that Korea is only seventh in the world drone rankings at the moment, [2130.93] Adam: which is serious and important. Um, where are we? Where's GB? They didn't list any other countries. [2137.89] Edd: Uh, the Korea was, um, is Korea one of those countries that takes computer gaming really [2144.13] Adam: seriously? Korea is the country that takes computer gaming really seriously. There is that game, [2151.25] Adam: um, which is a sort of similar to command and conquer, um, that they all just watch. Um, people, [2158.05] Adam: you know, they have huge theaters of people watching people bashing at keyboards. They [2163.41] Adam: won't have that power keyboards. It's very weird sort of thing. So I can, I can see why they take [2168.21] Adam: it seriously. I don't know if the seventh refers to where the Korean guy came in a world thing, [2173.33] Adam: because there hasn't really been one or where the Korean guy, you know, the industry is behind, [2179.01] Adam: you know, they don't have a DJI yet. Yeah. It's the ghost drones days, isn't it? I think so. Don't [2185.89] Tony: talk to me about them. They kept powering on when I was in the drone show trying to write. [2191.09] Adam: Yeah. They were not listening. Were they? I don't think they spoke English now. Now, um, I had a [2201.01] Tony: simple question. What's a KV is your motors on your drone and I did you, did you speak louder, [2207.73] Adam: Tony? Yes, I spoke very loud. It's not, it's not the sort of thing the press marketing division [2213.65] Adam: cares about that does it? Do they stay in the air? Yes, it's fine then. Although they didn't, [2218.85] Adam: I didn't spot them flying one anytime at all on their stand. They have a big net. Mind you, [2224.77] Adam: I, you know, I only got off the stand once or twice. Sorry. Did you see how dejected the [2229.65] Adam: mapping guys looks? Uh, yeah. Cause we were directly opposite them. So Jack was just, [2237.33] Adam: Jack was just throwing insults at them all day. Because we'd, we'd burnt through all the books [2245.17] Adam: by quite early on the second day. So we sold a pile of stock and they were not selling nothing. [2252.29] Jack: Secretly. I'm not allowed to say this, but I'm going to anyway. Um, I'm probably going to be [2257.97] Jack: banned from every map. They do monitor this broadcast and all broadcasts. But now with my [2266.37] Jack: godlike status, I feel like I can say anything. Um, you normally do. You don't really care. Yeah. [2272.05] Jack: The only reason they were there, they were paid by, um, Parrot. So they weren't mappling at all. [2277.57] Jack: It was Parrot. It was Parrot. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. If you'd noticed and looked really carefully, [2284.53] Jack: all Parrot are items. They were all Parrot. They certainly had Parrot stuff pretty prominently. [2290.85] Jack: I thought they had some other stuff. No Parrot. All underlined by Parrot. You know, [2295.73] Jack: like how sprites made by Coca-Cola. Yeah. It's kind of that kind of, you know, subdivision. [2303.09] Adam: Yeah. I won't have a word said against mapping because they stopped my book as well. Yeah. [2308.69] Adam: They've not only, they sold through their first, you know, and they came back for more, [2312.29] Edd: which cheered me up. Yeah. I think it's just a, uh, you know, a misplaced product in a, [2317.73] Edd: in a show that's designed for enthusiasts that like to build, create, fly, crash, repeat, [2323.89] Adam: rather than off the shelf. But it wasn't, you know, the show was for everyone involved in [2328.69] Adam: drones and that isn't just the, the racing quads. Someone in the chats signed in as Matt [2337.73] Jack: Plinn admin. I just wrote Jack. Don't kill me. I've got a quick one. I am in man. It's just [2348.85] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: lagging on what I'm hearing. But, um, so I don't know if I'm, I was going to change the subject a [2353.97] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: bit, but motors. So I'm a Cobra man motor wise, but I know who do we lose? Cobra is a starting [2361.57] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: suit. You know, it seems to be going away from Cobra. So where are we going? You know, I like to [2367.81] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: know what motors I'm going to be buying, but there's so many motors coming. It's just crazy. [2372.37] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: I even, I don't really use emacs to be honest, but the new emacs are looking nuts. Yeah, [2377.41] Jack: they are looking good. The 2205. Yeah. It's all about the shaft boys. It's all about what that [2384.37] Jack: shaft is like. Yeah, that's the thing we need. Can that shaft take a battering? Yeah. I love [2391.97] Jack: having it on. I love having Adam on. I love having it head on. I love you in general bradders. Do you [2399.73] Jack: like getting an, getting an head on Jack? Yeah, that's it. Um, yeah, but what are those shafts [2405.49] Jack: like? Cause if they're anything like the original emacs and counter and clockwise nuts man, [2414.37] Jack: just, oh man. Like that makes me want to rip my. Almost, almost got it. It's the worst thing ever. [2423.73] Jack: Like honestly, who does that? You are Hitler. You love Hitler if you like counter rotating [2431.73] Tony: threaded nuts. That is annoying, but Cobra are all getting a bad name at the moment. The last, [2437.17] Tony: the last batch of motors have been, I've seen so many people post this is broke. That's broke. [2443.01] Tony: This broke. Luckily all mine have been absolutely fantastic. So I must've had a good batch. I've got, [2448.61] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: I've got some of the new ones in the batch before last I think it is. And you know that I've got a [2454.29] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: bit of a grinding noise. I'm one of them, but you know, it flies. So I'm not overly worried about it. [2460.53] Jack: And you can't replace the bearings on them. I had to dremble some bearings out to see the size of [2465.41] Jack: them. And they are, that is the issue. Why did I miss boys? We're just bitching about motors. [2475.73] Jack: All right. I'm allowed to say bitching. It's a female dog. Yeah. The X Nova is looking all right. [2481.89] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: I ain't, I ain't seen them. Well, I haven't seen this. Yeah. The new, the new team motors, why [2488.93] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: they're like bricks. Yeah. That's right. That's where it looks like it's been gone. Well, [2492.77] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: where it's going, team motors, a lot of good reviews coming through them at the moment. Yeah. [2497.57] Tony: Giving them out for free. Why wouldn't it? Everyone's going 180 quads at the moment. So [2503.01] Tony: I reckon someone needs to bring out a higher KV four inch prop spinner. Yeah. But you lose your top [2510.29] Tony: end. Yeah. But who needs to top end when you talk? It's all about torque and shaft. It's all about [2518.93] Tony: being shafted, isn't it? I want someone to do a 2800 KV four inch prop basher motor. Oh, [2527.17] Jack: it gabs in the chat. He was saying about EPI. Basically that's the Epic RC race. They're the [2535.25] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Epic RCs. They're done, but I think they're team motor. Um, but yeah, the Epic RCs and the nuts. [2541.97] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Wow. What are they? Link me. Link me. That's a lot of KV. [2549.01] Tony: That is, and it's a good size, isn't it? 2204. Yeah. Got to love them. Don't worry, Adam. You'll [2555.89] Jack: be a part of this sooner or later. Did you get the next? Oh, sooner, mate. Yeah. I got your spec. [2560.21] Adam: That was encouraging. What are you getting, Adam? I am going to get a fossil and Jack's going to [2566.05] Adam: build it for me because I'm feeling lazy. That's fine. And because he begged. Oh, he loves begging [2573.73] Edd: for fossils. So, mate, as a side, what about props, gents? What are you flying? It's got to be tries. [2582.85] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: That's where it's at, but yeah, I am. I just tried. Okay. I need to, I need to just, uh, [2588.85] Edd: shout out a huge thanks to Chris Weston. Actually, a couple of days ago, I went flying with him and [2592.61] Jack: Martinez. Don't thank him. He's the unholy one. No, no, no, no. He's, he keeps the BL Heli all to [2600.05] Edd: himself. But he, he, he gave me a set of, um, those gem found 50 50 BNs that tries to, to fly with. [2609.33] Edd: And he's just a drug dealer. He's trying to get you hooked. He, well, he has done. I've, I've, [2613.89] Edd: I've, you know, the order with Banggood is in. He's a very bad man. Well, it's, it's, I think they're, [2620.45] Edd: I don't know. It completely transformed the quad completely. It became this really nice floaty, [2625.73] Edd: stable machine that I just felt I could do anything with. It was lovely. Highly unefficient. [2632.53] Tony: Oh, you say that. Yeah, I don't think they are. I don't think they are. No, I don't. I'll get more [2638.69] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: batches. I, when I tried, uh, tries on my 210, I'm quite sure that it was giving me more batch time. [2645.17] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: Not major, but you know, there's a little bit more battery. [2652.45] Tony: What I would say is that the tries are great. They sound wicked and they're brilliant for [2657.97] Tony: acro flying, but in a race situation, I wouldn't use them. What's, how come? I just don't, I just [2666.69] Tony: think down low, I so much prefer flying my, I'll fly my two, my 180 on tries and normal, um, [2677.49] Tony: bullnose. Bullnose. And to fly forward fast, my bullnose are faster than the tries, but to do, [2685.81] Tony: to do acro, I prefer the tries. They're very floaty, the tries. I really like them. [2691.73] Jack: Got to say, guys, I'm loving the chat. You asked for a link and they give them to you. [2696.85] Simon "Bradderz" Bradley: So good, guys. Thank you. Big up to Gavin Scott there. [2703.57] Adam: The listening couple. They are wonderful. They could be a couple, you know. I think they [2709.17] Adam: secretly are. Those Essex boys. At some point we'll have more listeners than we have, um, [2717.09] Adam: you know, those of us on the show. Guest. [2722.21] Adam: But, you know, New Year's Eve, everyone's partying. We can cope with it. Yeah. You know, [2727.33] Adam: we haven't missed a show, so it's all good. Yeah, that is, to be honored, I think, [2732.29] Adam: over this festive break, because I think a lot of people have, haven't they? Even pros. [2736.85] Jack: Um, we got a Roto Riot teaser on, uh, Steel's channel. Oh, by the way. [2744.69] Edd: If they release their first episode, yeah, it was at the teaser for their first episode. [2748.29] Tony: Teaser, so far. We've got to outdo them, guys, from the GB. Yeah. We can't shout will. [2756.37] Adam: Adam's on it. I'm already doing some work on it this, uh, this week. Ed, we need you. [2761.17] Jack: You don't know that, but I'm going to lock you in a basement. [2766.37] Tony: Ed, your, uh, your Event Horizon video is, is the bomb. I think that is well good. [2772.29] Adam: I haven't seen it. Someone sent me a link for that, so I can, yeah. Chat link. [2778.13] Edd: I've got lights, I've got cameras, uh, editing. Yeah, bring it on. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. We've [2784.61] Tony: got to do something, because no one in a GB is doing this, and we've got a good route here. [2790.53] Jack: We reckon we could kick ass. Yeah. And everyone's going to love me and Chris. You have to say, [2797.25] Adam: we'll get to kick bottom. Nothing so vulgar as ass. We can't say ass. No, no. I was going to steer [2806.21] Adam: the conversation to idiots and foreigners. No. Hold it down, boys. That's, that's, that's Tony [2813.65] Edd: speciality. He does great impressions. I have been observing, uh, you know, our American cousins [2822.29] Adam: in the news. Yeah. Oh, here we go. And there were two stories that caught my attention. [2827.33] Adam: One was that somebody landed their drone on thin ice and decided to go in after it [2832.45] Adam: with inevitable consequences, uh, somewhere near Boston. Uh, and the other was that the president [2839.73] Adam: was buzzed. Oh, yes. See that. Although he wasn't actually, um, yeah, but let's face it, [2849.15] Tony: the president buzzes other countries with a bigger drone with missile. Yeah. That was the [2855.63] Adam: thing I was going to say. Yeah. All that happened was the secret service. Also I want to land it [2860.35] Adam: because the motorcade went by. The guy didn't even know, you know, the president was in the [2864.75] Adam: neighborhood. He'd just been out playing golf anyway. And you know, everything happened exactly [2870.03] Adam: as it should. Yet stories showed up with drone buzzers motorcade. So idiots, didn't they? Oh, [2877.23] Adam: I hate the press. It's they are, they are our enemy. Are we declaring God like war on them? [2884.51] Adam: Yeah. Yes. Remember, remember to smite the press between now and next week's episode. [2890.27] Edd: Okay. A press, a press smiting challenge has been laid. That's right. Well, guys, we need to, [2896.67] Jack: we need to say, look, if you listen to this and you record some footage for the press, [2901.15] Jack: don't ask for money. Just be like, you know, give us, [2907.31] Adam: no, just be like, look, I'll give it to you. You've not got your license, obviously, then [2912.59] Adam: definitely hand it over for free. Or the next thing they're going to do is be doing a story on you. [2917.07] Jack: Yeah. But also like ask them, you know, or get them to write down a thing, be like, look, [2923.23] Jack: you know, more positive stories. You know, we'll look after you. I think there needs to be more [2928.51] Adam: mutual kind of judgment. I'm just going to finish off by saying I come here to I came here to Greece [2935.47] Adam: at a turn on the telly. And there was a story about a man flying, you know, video footage of [2940.67] Adam: the nearby bridge with footage over it for a drone. I'm sorry, a bridge. I've taken pictures. [2947.39] Adam: And the guy is being interviewed has done it. And they're just saying how cool it is. [2952.27] Adam: No one's saying anything terrible. Big up the Greeks. Yeah. [2957.23] Edd: Beware the Trojan horse. Yes. [2961.31] Edd: But Jack, do you remember when we were at the, at the NEC, and there was that presenter from Skye, [2968.43] Edd: and we were chatting, chatting to her briefly. I don't know how you could chat to her. [2973.07] Edd: Like she was a bit difficult. And but remember, we were sort of trying to steer her away from [2978.43] Edd: using the word drone. Yeah. And to use the word quad. And she was quite dismissive of it because [2983.79] Edd: it was it was accepted terminology. Yeah. And you're trying to explain to this lady, well, [2988.75] Edd: we don't accept that terminology. So can you try and accept our chat shows called Let's Drone out? [2995.71] Tony: Yeah. Let's quadcopter out. Just hasn't got the same ring to it, is there? [3002.03] Adam: Also, it's very selective against Jack and is dry, isn't it? [3005.55] Adam: Yeah. Top quads. [3010.03] Adam: Top quads, open brackets and Jack closed brackets. [3013.31] Jack: Yeah, I don't know. Don't use the D word. And she's like, what penis? [3021.55] Tony: I said penis. [3024.83] Adam: That is the level of education required to work its gut. Yeah. [3028.67] Adam: Or on the drone show. [3029.71] Jack: That's it. Thomas is here. Oh, my God. He's trying to get his quad out for a [3038.19] Jack: whispers. Whispers came up with an interesting point. If you read that, if you don't read the [3042.51] Jack: papers, you're uninformed. If you read the papers, you're misinformed. Yeah, I would have said too [3049.07] Adam: true. But then I realized I was just reading myself off. Yeah. Okay. For the last minute, [3055.23] Jack: Adam just read stuff that he said. He's already written as if like using a prompter. [3060.43] Jack: Mark. I think we're out of time, legs. Yeah. Anything else? It's been great having you guys on. [3065.95] Adam: Well, now we're moving into literary criticism. Yeah, I'm definitely going to say, [3069.71] Adam: Happy New Year. In my case, just three hours. Enjoy those extra two hours drinking, you guys. [3076.19] Jack: Yeah, we will. All right. Thank you, everyone, for listening. You've been listening to the [3081.63] Jack: Let's Multi-Rotor on and I've been joined by Tony. What's up? Thank you for listening. Happy New [3090.43] Jack: Year. Ed. Happy New Year, everyone. Have a good one. Adam. Happy New Year. Brudders. Happy New [3098.75] Jack: Year. Keep smoking. You better say keep high because that could be interpreted both ways, [3106.99] Jack: like flying and stoned. But no, we've got on smoking. Smoking's bad. We lost our app. Yeah, [3114.99] Tony: don't drug and drone. Right. And we're on a new, we've got a new time schedule from next Thursday. [3123.87] Jack: Is that right? Yep. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I think it's from eight till nine. [3129.47] Tony: So you guys can get home from work and tune in and stop moaning that you missed the show. Yep. [3136.03] Edd: And indeed, he's just beyond the show as well. So yeah, we can have more presenters than listeners [3142.35] Jack: again. Yeah. Also, like we missed Jay, Chipgo. I hope you're having a good time. Yep. Over in Italy. [3150.99] Jack: Over. Yep. And yeah, we'll try and look to see whether we could have one of you guys on as well, [3156.99] Jack: more regularly as well. Hopefully we'll get Nico back. If he doesn't come back, we'll try and adopt [3162.19] Adam: one of you guys. I feel like we're moving quite a long way into our closing minute. Yep. All right. [3167.79] Jack: I'll call it there. Thank you for listening to Let Drone Out. Happy new year. Happy new year. [3172.11] Jack: Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year. Happy new year.