=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 28 ===
Title: Episode  28 Simulated Flight
Recorded: 2016-03-10
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Adam Juniper, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): Cemal "Cem" Kucuk, Edd Bruce Radcliffe, Neil Cody
Total audience: 1,892
Platforms: SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/256324242-letsdroneout-ep-28-simulated-flight.mp3)
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we chat again to the guys from I drone about there new flight sim so people can practice learn the course.

[0.0] Jack: elementary recovered and you're listening to let's throw it out yep welcome to the show uh we've
[7.57] Jack: got a word from our sponsors and that's yep you gem and you neil mr i drone who had the top scores
[15.33] Neil Cody: at his own track surprise surprise yeah yeah a bit of a debate there but yeah yeah wasn't it edited
[24.13] Jack: in thank you pardon that's slander so what have you got to tell us guys fill us in on the news
[33.73] Neil Cody: anything on the news well we form fpv the uh the new sim that's out at the moment
[38.69] Neil Cody: um that's what we want people to uh go and download we do we'll put a link if we can in the uh
[45.25] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): text box down in the chat in the chat and tell us a bit about it gem over to you you're the uh
[50.93] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): technical director well uh some people know we had an event last year in september
[59.17] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): formula fpv um we think it went really well a lot of people were quite happy with it and since then
[65.57] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): we try to put it into a simulator so you guys can have a go before the next event it is horrible
[71.81] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): going outdoors after all oh it's terrible perfect weather for a sim and that's true
[78.21] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): this is the way this is the way to do it you know so the sims it's a free download we're
[83.33] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): sponsoring three weeks of it you guys can just download and um play there's two tracks in there
[89.01] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): there's obviously the formula fpv one and a test track we can just muck about go in the sky fly
[94.77] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): through some trees um but just enjoy just get out there and so what do i need to uh use it what
[101.89] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): software what hardware okay so hardware would be a fairly reasonable pc um unfortunately at the
[108.61] Neil Cody: moment the mac was not out yeah thanks for that yeah but yeah it does work on a boot camp and
[116.29] Neil Cody: parallels apparently i'm not i'm not tarnishing my beautiful mac with exactly yeah i've heard
[123.41] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): that comment a lot um well look it is coming i'm told about few maybe three months it's there
[130.61] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): they're working on it um and whose day is uh ray smith from v mac media and they are just amazing
[137.97] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): these guys do simulators for full-size marine applications so this to them is just like a like
[145.01] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): like the boat deck yeah um deck yes the poop deck for some of us but so their work is is astounding
[153.57] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and it's all their work that you're looking at and we're very very grateful to them that they've
[157.81] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): chosen to put our track into their simulator then when when did it when did it uh open release
[163.65] Neil Cody: joint gem was it monday yes so it's the last monday midnight monday and we're now up to
[169.89] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): just under 1400 downloads oh that's good and how is it free how is it free yeah so okay so like i
[179.09] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): say we're sponsoring it for this this event and there's going to be a small cost after the event
[185.09] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and that will be in either or full paid for or subscription style up to the full price
[192.69] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): so it's not forever that subscription don't misunderstand the word um we should hurry up
[197.49] Neil Cody: and get it now we're getting it free to for to trial it and then after trial finishes you get
[202.85] Neil Cody: the option to subscribe or to buy it in full yeah so currently in the full version let's call it
[210.45] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): there's going to be four tracks that i'm aware of so that's the test the formula fpv track the
[216.85] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): drone show from last year the indoor one that's how he loves that with none of the none of the
[222.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): interference no you can add that you can press put it in if you like yeah um the drone show one
[229.33] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and there is another one that is foresty the woods one is awesome metal danny's track
[236.69] Neil Cody: no it's just a woods wooded area but it's very very good
[241.57] Tony: slow that's where where danny lives then where danny pretty much yeah you know tell us a little
[247.49] Edd: bit about the um the physics in the simulator because there's quite a few on the market now
[251.09] Edd: isn't there and they all all of them feel a bit different um i was wondering how you guys have
[255.89] Edd: sort of gone about getting the feeling of the of the quad as you're racing okay so the physics side
[262.69] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): of it is um without presuming to know how other people have coded their games the physics side of
[268.37] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): it has worked from a literal real world model so as i say remap media they do full-size simulators
[276.13] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): for the marine and the aviation industry so you know they work from a different perspective
[282.53] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): they're not making a game or trying to make something feel like something else they make
[288.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): it feel rigged a lot of people have given us that feedback we had a great pilot's test in this car
[295.41] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): um and that their feedback has just trimmed it out a little bit but it was pretty good to start with
[301.65] Neil Cody: yeah we've had chi chi's been practicing luke they they sort of done a lot of the uh test
[307.49] Neil Cody: test for it to try and get it tweaked and to what it currently is now and it's kind of and it's
[315.87] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): played off with luke yeah so um the sports and the pro classes that you've got now so those two
[322.91] Adam: have been tweaked by the pros that's that's amazing news and if i if i really hate going
[328.75] Adam: outdoors if i've got some sort of condition then do i have to play on the computer with my keys
[334.91] Neil Cody: or you can play with an xbox you can play with an xbox controller as well you can play not a
[340.75] Neil Cody: playstation uh it's because it's my microsoft isn't it fair enough yeah and you use a tyrannis
[349.15] Neil Cody: yes it plugs straight in literally they turn it on plug it in works yeah there's no setup needed no
[355.95] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): expose or anything that you need to do to your transmitter just a nice clean new model and it
[362.27] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): just connects straight in that's tyrannis and the others run off a usb interface utility that's also
[368.27] Edd: provided with your download so i i've flying spectrum uh much to many people's disappointment
[376.35] Edd: um but uh it's always been a bit of a bit of a pain connecting my controllers uh to the computer
[384.11] Edd: yeah um i'm hoping have you guys tried it with the spectrum yet not personally i can't say
[391.63] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): there are i'll give you some feedback please do on the forum i think that you're using a different
[398.83] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): kind of way in as far as i understand for the spectrum is it audio it's yeah i've got um i've
[404.03] Edd: got a a dongle yeah that uses the buddy box um which is basically an audio signal um pro
[412.75] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): smart pro pro plus something smart prop plus oh it came with a fly sim from from yesteryear and
[419.07] Edd: it seems to work on all the others um i've only just got it working with the others um i'm i'm
[424.99] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): fingers crossed it'll work with this one as well well the usb utility is really good there's a pdf
[430.67] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): on our facebook page as well yeah you know walks you through it but as long as though you set them
[437.07] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): nicely in that right place everything's in the middle you're just free to go on the game and
[441.71] Adam: it works fine with johnny banton spectrum yeah johnny's been on it i'm sure yeah so in the feed
[448.51] Adam: yeah there we go maybe johnny can share his setup he's um is he's got something that's six inches
[456.75] Adam: long it's all right it's alien apparently feels like a foot it's just where he's gonna crash
[465.71] Jack: land it that's what i want to know um leo who is lot who's live uh we've got neil cody
[472.27] Jack: our sponsor for today do you want to tell him about your shop
[476.82] Neil Cody: my show of course i drone yes buy your props buy your bits and bobs for your fpv kit
[483.78] Neil Cody: cameras props flight controllers got the lot all in so uh i drone code at uk jump on and
[490.42] Neil Cody: spend some cash number one for props yes your one-stop prop shop there you go and what's uh
[496.1] Neil Cody: what's selling best at the moment and stop dal the dal tri blades are coming going out the door
[503.06] Neil Cody: very very quick four oh four fives five oh four fives we're waiting for some three inches
[509.38] Neil Cody: three inch to come in as well um yes there's a bit of an interest in the three inch um
[517.46] Neil Cody: but no the the bullnose um tribolates have been extremely popular
[523.22] Neil Cody: hmm um well worth the um the uh effort to get them because they're really really tough in
[531.3] Neil Cody: compared to the hq's who tend to break at the sneeze of a you could yeah you can blow
[537.78] Jack: blow on them and they break yeah yeah calm down tony this is a this is a 13 show um yeah
[546.26] Jack: blowing on three inches uh right is it's true that that is disappointing yeah you have it's
[552.98] Jack: true that you've got some of the uh tbs crossfires and they're in customs so it's true yeah and as
[559.46] Jack: long as they don't think that they're weapons they shouldn't get destroyed mass destruction
[563.7] Adam: well that could be the that could be the delay yeah no worries and um i learned the fun thing
[568.58] Adam: at the the bnuk the other week is that quite often drones are considered to be dual use goods
[575.14] Adam: i don't know if anyone has a really long memory but the thing that got um a lot of british
[579.54] Adam: companies in trouble a few years back was selling dual use goods or guns to saddam hussein
[586.5] Tony: so it's on the same shipping thanks we've got um we've got someone asking what what is the sim
[594.1] Jack: called and can we have a link so there you go yep gems already done it um there you go
[601.78] Jack: can we spread the kiss ruba neil is there a rumor to be spread no because then i won't get any
[609.3] Jack: okay i want four as well so there isn't it all here oh sorry hit my wrong button there
[620.21] Neil Cody: yes we are expecting at some stage a delivery of the new kiss 24 amp and some flight controllers
[625.65] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): at some stage this year this year well that's it quite a bit at some point i think some point
[634.93] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): that was a six
[638.61] Jack: if there's any left no worries um right so again yeah guys uh what i've been
[647.09] Jack: what i've been up to is uh you did know it was international um
[651.73] Jack: woman's week day uh the other day just the one day yeah yeah technically jack you're still not
[658.85] Tony: a woman not yet anyway we haven't had the op yet yeah we can have a whip run and buy him a veg
[665.49] Neil Cody: yeah best the best of both worlds the magic is bad a vegetarian veg you've got a lab bag
[675.01] Neil Cody: thank you
[677.41] Jack: lad first why do i why do i even subject myself to this i can because you got a flesh light as well
[684.69] Jack: i know there was there was someone um who put their flesh light on their drone
[691.65] Jack: i did see that flying i think that was after the right uh road to riot show about the deal
[698.21] Jack: no copter so um i did i did try i did try and send that to um uh to chad to be like oh god
[707.89] Jack: why is this a thing why is it real what have we done but yeah anyway that was a great show
[713.09] Neil Cody: by the way oh thank you hats off if i was wearing one but that was a really really good show as was
[717.73] Jack: last week's we're paying this fantastic oh painless what a great guy awesome you know and the
[724.53] Jack: road right guys yeah i had good fun man i'm like i'm slowly running out of um people i've sent
[732.61] Jack: which is why we're here well no you guys you guys asked us leo leo asked yeah jack wasn't even
[739.65] Jack: going to invite you on yeah that was it no we've had you you've had your chance tick the box
[744.45] Jack: yep so i've linked um interviews that uh girls love drones international women's day
[751.17] Jack: and uh jessica dronhardt and kathryn hickley um these are two girls and i've been trying
[757.97] Jack: so guys if you can uh anyone listening uh if you can kind of hassle these people in a nice way to
[764.45] Jack: come on the show maybe one day i think it's time we have some girls on instead of just the
[769.81] Jack: massive sausage fest that is lecturing out so um yeah uh so it's a lovely lovely interview um
[778.61] Jack: but also i'm looking at zoe full throttle i'm looking for a way to get in contact with her
[784.37] Jack: but um jessica dronhardt also known as um rotor girl uh a name well deserved she's um one hell
[792.85] Jack: of a racing drone builder and has a big passion for rc and kathryn she the one in the drl uh i
[799.89] Jack: don't know i could put your i'm i'm sending you the link hang on i'll put it in the in the
[805.41] Neil Cody: lady lady girl in the drl pilot yeah video uh are these real people are they american
[818.21] Neil Cody: was that a statement
[823.33] Jack: leave that in oops leave it in right you can forward your hate mail to uh what is it tame sky
[835.01] SPEAKER_05: limited um and then just send it to the business address because that doesn't get collected okay
[841.73] Jack: oh my god um so hey someone's put up the the links on the thing yeah and uh who else uh kathryn
[851.01] Jack: hickley author of sex love and drones blog so uh you know i'm gonna copy the link up for that
[857.89] Jack: yeah copy the link and uh she's uh rocking the fp racing for this yep along with the dji side
[865.81] Jack: of things and um i'm a big fan of um uh jessica's uh she's got what is it i think you say um
[876.85] Jack: oh god the rotor is it the rotor cat um she's got barbie the air cat and it's a pink drone and i
[885.25] Jack: like it man i think tony should get a pink drone i thought you had one what were those pink props
[893.73] Jack: for then hang on i'll just nothing to do with me that was a secret order yeah that's it damn you
[901.81] Jack: let the cat out of the bag shut up oh yeah and that's the other that's the other link sorry
[907.57] Jack: ah sorry um also i found a wicked uh speaking about girl things um wicked uh news thing it's
[917.97] Jack: called uh fpv.tv and it's quite a funny little news website so i've been looking on here
[926.85] Jack: and uh barbie's released her own um her own drone as well which is quite funny
[932.93] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): wow so i've just put the dr margos well he's so fried in it as far as i remember yeah hello leo
[940.61] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): he stood on top of it which is a really bad idea to encourage little kids to stand on top of cards
[946.37] Adam: but yeah well no i don't know so weirdly i don't have a joke for that one
[954.85] Tony: all right hang on but can i just interject for a minute because we're going a bit off
[961.01] Tony: subject what do you mean off subject yeah i was we've been a lot further off topic before
[971.81] Tony: and neil is your track gonna is the track sim track gonna be exactly the same as the one you
[978.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): build again yes in june that is the plan not in june but later on um yes that is so there's
[985.81] Neil Cody: there'll be no one complaining they're not familiar with the track because it's available
[990.21] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): for people to you know is to keep the same venue same track so that that every time we race at
[997.89] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): chezon at that venue it will be that track and then other events at other venues it will be a
[1004.45] Tony: different permanent track at that excellent so you can practice before you turn up that's that's
[1012.13] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): one of the reasons we had this done we don't want yeah i haven't had enough time to go around the
[1017.33] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): track so can you walk me around the track you go no you've there's a download there you can fly it
[1021.97] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): for you know a few months before it and i don't think that's what you mean i think really the
[1028.29] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): point is is that we want faster races and better pilots and if you know what you're flying and
[1033.25] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): what you're flying around you're going to be more concentrating on what you're doing and going
[1037.01] Jack: faster definitely what what happens if you own a mac does that give you does that give you at least
[1043.49] Jack: one walk around does that give you yeah you have to bring it with you though jack yeah i can't just
[1048.21] Neil Cody: to prove and a letter from your mother well if you have got to be linked around anyway you know
[1053.89] Jack: i've just got to get it surgically removed from anti-gravity's butt but yeah i can do that
[1063.49] Jack: uh or his name's chris well anyway i was looking at this lovely chris i was looking at this barbie
[1068.45] Jack: drone right and it's just over the weight thing for america so yeah so if you buy that for a
[1077.01] Jack: little girl you you have to register it you have to register her so everyone can find her online
[1083.01] Jack: well done america and uh i'm agreeing with adam here and um yeah so yeah that's that's classed as
[1092.05] Jack: dual use as well so that's a weapon wow so uh i can't wait for them to hit the uk
[1099.25] Adam: quite a terrifying looking thing she's just trying to sort of surf it like um ridiculous you know like
[1106.05] Adam: you well like a snowboarder who's broken their ankle it is such a strange thing the barbie
[1112.21] Jack: hoverboard everyone i posted a link so god knows tony doesn't like it when we talk about this
[1118.05] Adam: so i guess it's i guess it's an ideal present for a dad who really wishes he had a boy
[1126.93] Jack: take that international women's day um hang on so it's still national women's day well no i mean
[1134.21] Jack: it was on it was in honor of that day but you know you only have to have one a year
[1139.33] Edd: so jack you picked the pick one of the most sexist symbols in the world in honor of national
[1144.05] Jack: women's day yeah yeah it's a late well i was talking about girl stuff but you know there you go
[1151.01] Adam: if i understand it metella trying to make her slightly less sexist like they've recently
[1157.89] Edd: sexist as sexy well maybe it's the same this thing's just just looks like it's been uh thought up
[1164.37] Edd: in a marketing board room by a group of men who are trying to figure out how they can appeal to
[1168.53] Adam: girls it it just it must be licensed as well there's no way that is an original Mattel product
[1177.17] Edd: an abomination actually you know who does this stuff don't you
[1181.09] Jack: johnny banton i reckon it's one of his probably is he's um you've got the new york city drone film
[1188.61] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): festival it's a space explorer it's not a quad or anything you think yes what barbie's seen yeah
[1197.01] Adam: yeah she's a space explorer really barbie she's not sort of wandering around and answering 30
[1205.01] Adam: second questions on how to fix the universe and doing a swimsuit round that is a space explorer
[1210.21] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): barbie this is space barbie no need for the helmet i don't mind a vacuum he doesn't mind a helmet
[1217.97] Jack: oh my god kill me now also if you don't work in space
[1221.81] Neil Cody: new york city if she slips off that hoverboard she's gonna lose a leg
[1229.25] Adam: yes that's why it's broken that's it oh we're moving into questioning the validity of cartoons
[1234.93] Neil Cody: though that'd be the next step it's not a cartoon it's a real toy real plastic absolutely yeah
[1241.97] Edd: i found an image of what will happen to uh to barbie um i'm just gonna put it on the chat
[1247.97] Edd: there we go there we go look at the chat that's what's going to happen to barbie
[1257.97] Jack: oh my word ed's for the love don't hardly whatever you do do not put that on the canvas
[1268.05] Jack: um yeah so here you go here's another here's a nice little room before you
[1273.97] Jack: tone right so daddy daddy's been keeping secrets from me right so yeah i went i went into work on
[1281.33] Jack: the monday after um after we went flying on the sunday right and he sat there giggling away
[1289.25] Jack: watching videos on his um on his computer of um people flying which looks like uh some sort of
[1298.29] Jack: desert so they're flying in some sort of weird desert and all they'll tell me is it's on
[1303.25] Jack: the maybank holiday i think what what date so that i think it's the 27th or something uh 28th
[1310.45] Jack: and um i think they might be hosting an event and they won't tell me anything else but um
[1315.65] Jack: when i asked when yumi and banton weren't allowed to go he said you two were fossil boys um so he
[1323.97] Jack: didn't invite us and apparently he didn't know i was flying i don't know yeah so we got left out
[1328.93] Jack: but yeah wow so it sounds like he's going to be stuck in a desert yeah i don't know a sort
[1335.01] Jack: of sussex desert or something it was weird it was like rocks it looks like sand it was gloomy
[1342.29] Tony: yeah he wants to fly and land in some sand anyway that's really not going to be good
[1346.85] Neil Cody: it's not going to be good it's going to be on the landing water remember that
[1350.53] Tony: remember i'm glad i'm not going cheers daddy we just didn't get any money from selling parts
[1357.33] Tony: bag of interest why don't we just boycott and tell everyone not to go no i mean we're allowed
[1363.41] Jack: to go we just weren't we weren't just we weren't the exclusive pilots though so that was it good
[1369.33] Jack: enough yeah we weren't we weren't allowed to go on the top secret mission so it's yeah well it's
[1376.69] Jack: your fault you side with fossil so but you aren't you on the team well no well clearly not you know
[1385.81] Neil Cody: so i didn't get to go advisor like they got in Dubai they got these technical geeks out there
[1391.49] Jack: obviously don't need me no didn't even knew i had something to fly so don't take it so that's how
[1397.81] Jack: much daddy loves me oh well oh well he'll make it up to you yeah he's got he's up to something
[1406.61] Jack: we need to watch him so i will keep you updated on uh on daddy news and what he's up to so they
[1413.41] Adam: um is that picture on the uh on the feed is that the only six women to have ever flown a drone
[1419.09] Jack: no i mean there's top four up there reaching for the stars whatever you're doing i don't know there
[1424.69] Adam: might be more now it's just it looks a lot like the group of people that dj i put together to try
[1431.57] Adam: and i'm i'm aware from sources that cj i was trying very very hard to make sure it didn't
[1438.69] Jack: just look like man nerds yeah i mean you know i'm looking i'm looking to get some girls on the show
[1445.57] Jack: you know the women on the show did you mention someone called zoe yeah zoe full throttle she um leo
[1451.97] Neil Cody: leo whipfield knows her on the chat or something he's going to speak to her and see if he can get
[1457.01] Jack: her on the show because she was um keep calm because daddy loves me oh thank you bruce
[1461.73] Jack: good old ed um yeah that'll be wicked because she was flying 3d i think at the uh at the
[1469.65] Jack: nationals in america which is quite cool and she uh she flew upside down and threw a few gates and
[1476.37] Jack: stuff so my with a drone yep my hat is off to her so that sounds interesting i'm not saying i'm not
[1485.73] Adam: saying women can't i'm i'm just uh i don't want to sound like that guy um no i just
[1492.21] Adam: sometimes i don't like it it's when it's slightly cynical when it's slightly put together
[1496.53] Neil Cody: i agree with that and there's something because it sounds better because they've got girls involved
[1501.81] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): in it what about fpv is that it's across the board everyone can have a girl boys disabled
[1510.37] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): people like me fully capable yeah it doesn't make any difference but what you're saying about
[1515.97] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): dgr putting together a girl team i object to that it's not quite right and again actually
[1522.77] Adam: maybe i don't even object to something i'm probably just a little bit jealous because
[1526.69] Adam: they get to play with stuff for free don't they because they've been put together by a
[1529.49] Adam: marketing department we've got a lot of money you didn't get the phone call no despite my
[1534.29] Adam: fairly sizable jugs
[1539.41] Jack: excellent why do you think that this is you know because i i don't want to see this side of the
[1545.97] Jack: hobby dominated like you know like the bmfa where it's just a sea of guys with white hair
[1553.49] Adam: you know i don't think it will go that way no i think if you target creatives you'll find
[1560.77] Adam: and you know the people who make photographs and i suppose the people who are going to lean
[1564.85] Adam: with the dgi products then there are just as many creative women as there are creative men
[1570.53] Adam: but i do think there is a slightly man-leaning tendency to stay in sheds and garages and build
[1575.81] Edd: stuff yeah a lot of the marketing on on the fpv stuff is is firmly good at racing isn't it and
[1583.25] Edd: if you look at other racing industries it's incredibly male dominated so it's it's you've
[1588.29] Edd: got to you've got to get over the perception of not only is this nerdy man shed sort of stuff
[1593.01] Edd: but it's also male dominated racing it's quite a bit which is not actually because and i'd not
[1597.81] Adam: occurred to me before but actually fpv is one of the least sexist forms of racing because
[1602.77] Adam: you know you look at formula one you don't see women drivers do you
[1607.49] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): why a woman can't race and then there's no strength or stamina when it comes to fpv you know
[1614.13] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): male racing sports you know getting in a car and driving for an hour is not easy you know yeah
[1620.53] Edd: it's a perception thing isn't it so you meant when we get together and race there's a lot of banter
[1627.01] Edd: isn't there's a lot of you know you're going down and i'm gonna beat you and all the rest of it
[1631.57] Edd: and it's that banter in a lot of arenas um i've seen it in sports like boxing uh and uh horse
[1638.69] Edd: racing and and other motorsports and it it can be a real turn off to to the other side and there's
[1646.21] Edd: always exceptions of course and i and i hope the exceptions are listening um but i i think
[1652.77] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): that side of it is probably going to be quite a big turn off i mean i think traditional RC is very
[1659.25] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): much old boys and sitting and doing bits of sticks together to put some doping on it and that kind of
[1664.77] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): thing yes feeding is more you're free like a bird let's go and have a race let's fly around
[1671.57] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): some trees and so that's what needs to be pushed isn't it yeah but it's a very different mindset
[1676.53] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): the people that have approached it have approached it from a very different way traditional RC is i
[1681.41] Adam: want my spit fire or my heavy boat yeah i mean yeah actually i was gonna say jack um i can write
[1690.37] Adam: to sarah drone mind yeah she's a very genuine real and uk-based woman who i do not think is
[1699.09] Jack: spoon fed by um yeah because because like i i i wonder sometimes like why isn't more women like
[1710.05] Jack: uh like interested or involved in this and i suppose a lot of females don't really find that
[1717.17] Jack: whole um you know need for the competitive uh you know i don't really care who's faster
[1724.29] Jack: you know like what what's the point like you know running around in a circle whoever can do it quick
[1730.29] Tony: in the freezing cards they just turn up and have a chat sit there on their chairs and then go home
[1736.05] Jack: you know it's just like it is point you know like what are we doing it's like football i'm sorry i'm
[1740.77] Jack: gonna say it i don't i don't get it keeping the ball of air i used i used to really love my
[1746.69] Adam: football and then it was kind of sport for me by david mitchell he did um every team where he just
[1753.57] Adam: talks about how it's sort of mocking a sky sky sky sports trailer thing yeah you know how every week
[1761.57] Adam: they're like and this weekend so and so is playing so and so to find out who is the winner for this
[1767.57] Adam: week at least and at the end of it i was just like god you're right it's just it doesn't matter does
[1774.29] Adam: it no because it's the clock resets at the end of the year and it all starts again i know and
[1779.65] Jack: but there is you know there is some serious skill in in you know in football and as well with like
[1786.77] Jack: you know the fpv racing because like you know you're just like wow how the hell do those guys do it
[1792.13] Jack: and i understand that there is there is drone girl as well she's irish and um part of it sure yeah
[1798.61] Jack: and uh but she just dances doesn't she yeah she does the spinny round thing yeah well done to
[1805.33] Jack: like devalue what she does tony um if you want to forward the sexist hate to uh tone star at gmail
[1814.13] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): make a point about speed and like ability and flying like i'm stunned at brett colis he's
[1820.69] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): blowing one with no go though he's lapsed you know he's done three latches in like under 50
[1830.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): seconds i i can't do one you know how fast these pilots are getting how fast these guys are going
[1837.17] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): yeah you know and it's i've put a link to brett's laps there yeah that's 49 seconds
[1844.69] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): three laps that's incredibly fast like crazy crazy fast now can we do that in real life though
[1852.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): it's the big question that's the question that's the question isn't it yeah and that is the big
[1857.25] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): question because we had a little thing early on when luke was trying out the sim for us
[1864.05] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and he he just tuned it beyond what real sims what real quads fly like flew quite a lot and
[1871.97] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): it disturbed his real flying as he learned bad muscles in the in a way yeah so we we're hoping
[1880.45] Neil Cody: that this is him and the way it's working i can't see that realistically i can't see that that 49
[1886.21] Tony: seconds is has got to be too fast i don't think i don't think the quad can go that fast can it
[1894.37] Neil Cody: no that's that's what i'm saying he might get around no he might be able to get around the
[1897.97] Neil Cody: course in that time on the sim but that can't be a realistic time for a course that size because
[1902.61] Neil Cody: i don't think that course is about 400 yards long it's two football it's two full-size football
[1909.73] Edd: picture yeah this is what i was asking about the physics earlier it's it's that to disconnect
[1915.49] Neil Cody: between reality and what's going on yeah and that's something that probably will be adjusted
[1920.21] Neil Cody: to make it more realistic as time goes on well speaking of speaking of disconnect with reality
[1926.45] Adam: did anyone see the um the racetrack in divide oh wow yes that looks wow and did anyone used to
[1932.93] Adam: play wipeout on the playstation one yeah yeah oh there's my snares it was very badly done
[1940.37] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): what's a snares jack i'm not a fan i may well be you know one in a million but i'm not impressed
[1946.93] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): with dubai yeah as far as i'm concerned it's just point of finger i'll have a look at dubai
[1952.85] Neil Cody: there's nothing coming out of dubai though that's the issue it's got eyes on us but whoever's done
[1957.33] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): that design in whoever's done whatever's going on there's got no idea what what fbv is about yeah i
[1962.69] Adam: don't particularly like the track either jim it doesn't look much fun but you can't say it's not
[1967.81] Edd: impressive looking i'm gonna disagree with all of you i think that track looks amazing
[1972.85] Neil Cody: i think it's probably one isn't there ed sorry mate i've gotta be it doesn't look it does look
[1979.25] Neil Cody: awesome but it you know it's not realistic it's true to himself and he can't bow to peer pressure
[1986.93] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): keep your opinions and keep them strong i mean do you know what you know what's crazy looks amazing
[1991.73] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): do you know what it does no it does for a roller coaster it looks lovely yeah that's exactly what
[1998.13] Edd: i like the space you can see i think i'll tell you for i think it looks great it's it's it's the
[2005.97] Edd: thing that's most likely to tempt the computer nerds out of their living rooms who are playing
[2011.01] Edd: racing games into the real world when they see tracks like that and tracks like that are going
[2014.85] Neil Cody: to be good for the hobby they are but they're not realistic for for everyday pilots because you're
[2020.21] Neil Cody: not gonna we don't live in dubai and that's the budget thing no budget to have that no you're not
[2026.61] Neil Cody: going to see that down in you know canvas sands there's not going to be a a track like that no
[2031.57] Edd: but that's you you're that's that's rooted too much in reality so if you think you need it really
[2036.53] Edd: appeals to the sense of play and imagination doesn't it yeah yeah of course it's aspirational
[2041.65] Edd: isn't it it's the sort of thing that that would get everything it could be potentially if they
[2045.97] Edd: get good enough they might be able to go there sure yeah and you never know one day councils
[2051.57] Adam: might be building as those the same way they they'll rip up all those um escape parks have you seen
[2057.89] Adam: council skate park 20 years ago there was no way a council was going to do it or maybe 30 years ago
[2065.57] Adam: and then suddenly then fugitives were putting concrete curves all over the place
[2071.17] Jack: but i mean do you know what's absolutely crazy is that um ksc have done this that a special uh
[2078.77] Jack: quads quad sandwich thing you know because i remember when i first started i stood next to
[2089.49] Jack: my friend um nico and uh we were in the supermarket and i said one day man we'll be able to go in here
[2096.13] Jack: and there'll be like you know drone magazines and you know it took less than a year and that's it
[2104.21] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): you're making the right point there because exactly the only good that's coming out of dubai
[2108.61] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): is we're going mainstream thanks to them yeah exactly and that's what you need to do
[2113.97] Jack: you know because there's tons of people that wouldn't know unless a lot and i mean the only
[2118.29] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): reason i found this like in any of that jack i'm not denying any of that my point is track design
[2125.09] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and your quad flying around something what are you looking at yeah yeah from the pilot's
[2132.85] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): perspective it's just a lot of lines and i'm just going over all these lines and
[2137.57] Edd: up a hill i'd love to fly that i'd love to fly it i think it hypnotized by those lights
[2142.61] Edd: yeah i think it's amazing it's the closest thing to to uh to that computer game we mentioned
[2147.81] Edd: earlier yeah because things wipe out they've ever seen on the other hand i already got wife
[2153.97] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): well no i don't i told the old playstation my dream is to get fq to look just like my
[2163.33] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): and i think i have to say no it's not close enough to wipe out mate nowhere near yeah but
[2169.25] Jack: we're in the early days you know we're you know we're still on like you know none of us
[2174.69] Jack: have got hd cams or anything like what do you expect give it a year or two it actually looks
[2180.53] Adam: like like the background for um wipe out doesn't it one of those stupid futuristic weird scenes
[2187.57] Adam: that you see whizzing past in the background we're very tall buildings all over yeah you're in
[2192.21] Tony: the middle i'd rather be in england in a middle of a field with grass and rain then what do you
[2199.33] Edd: throw sorry than flying that track really you're kidding no if i dropped you in that field tone
[2207.41] Edd: you'd go mental you get your quad out and you'd be flying around it in seconds because he doesn't
[2211.89] Neil Cody: want to oh sorry i was going to give you a ticket tony i was going to send you a ticket
[2217.89] Neil Cody: i'll give it to someone else now yeah give it to someone else
[2223.97] Tony: i want a proper proper proper racetrack with grass i'm not denying the appeal i'm just questioning
[2229.89] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): why there's thousands of white t-shaped things that we've got go up and down but don't all right
[2235.41] Jack: guys all right all right it's not getting in quick quick little announcement start rounding
[2242.29] Jack: yep yep we've got we've got five minutes hopefully we can contact voice of doom
[2247.97] Jack: and we've got for the next show we've got herbie flowers and guests do stick around
[2256.05] Jack: hopefully you can skype in or they'll start beginning the show where he'll talk about flying
[2260.53] Jack: world war two gliders that sounds interesting yeah and that is super interesting than us slagging off
[2267.17] Adam: device tracks just because we're jealous and we didn't get to go yeah i know it's only the same
[2275.89] Adam: jack i was going to say um a bit of a plug it the um on the may the seventh uh international drone
[2282.21] Adam: day two team me and the air show i'm going to be launching my book so i have an official launch
[2287.65] Adam: party i'm not quite now what form that'll take yeah it's all champagne for the drone pilot's
[2293.57] Adam: handbook i think i'll buy champagne wonderful what what about me is the book available for
[2299.17] Neil Cody: other people to sell it it certainly is and the first i have to message you then i'll drop
[2304.77] Adam: your message it's on the website yeah first book already is and i can put you in touch with the
[2309.97] Neil Cody: the necessary sales people as well do that yeah definitely i'm just we've got shows coming up so
[2317.89] Neil Cody: they'd be nice little um addition to the uh stuff we said on the other shows so that's brilliant
[2324.05] Jack: i'm watching chi fly the dubai um track and it does it does look amazing oh he missed an airgate
[2331.57] Adam: there are you watching it live where's the link for that i just put it in the chat you obviously
[2337.73] Adam: have a lot more faith in the connect your connection than me no i know well yes well remember the other
[2342.85] Adam: week i certainly had an HD video you all watched it and that was the end of it yeah that was it like
[2348.37] Jack: that's the end i've put it i've put it in the chat though if anyone wants to have a look bright then
[2353.73] Neil Cody: bms are flying now yeah it's going to be a bit tricky he's flying the uh ton stanton TSX frame
[2360.29] Neil Cody: i believe and luke is flying uh the new kc210 uh from craze yeah all right cool luke is damn fast
[2371.17] Tony: he's so we're going to be hd um outs they don't look like an hgm did you see the size of the box
[2381.25] Edd: huh yeah they did you see the size of the box that they've been asked to put on their quads
[2385.73] Jack: yeah i mean um i think what's happened is no one's told them they've got dvr recorders in
[2393.49] Jack: their headset so i think they're all recording dvr footage and uh yeah and then like uploading
[2400.69] Tony: it without telling them maybe i don't know this looks like it's bsm web flying at the moment
[2406.77] Cemal "Cem" Kucuk (Drone Junkie): yeah all very secretive on purpose then i don't know look at that it's like a roller coaster
[2414.21] Jack: yeah i don't know i honestly don't get it i mean i wouldn't like to crash there either
[2419.49] Neil Cody: because that's you kind of look it's like a skeleton like you're flying down someone's spine
[2424.61] Adam: yeah it's awesome it's super awesome it's more awesome than i said it was earlier when i was
[2433.49] Adam: defending you ed yeah i agree it is pretty awesome yeah it is it is something different
[2439.41] Jack: and it just shows the you know look you know we are limited here and you know we're keeping
[2444.77] Jack: it real but this is what a lot of cocaine and hookers you can't take one of these out of the
[2449.09] Tony: field every time you go actually how long it'll take to set this up well no i know tony would do
[2454.53] Adam: a lot of complaining i think it's inflatable i'm picturing how long it would take to do the risk
[2459.65] Edd: assessment but you know did anyone did anyone catch that program number weeks ago on the bbc
[2466.77] Edd: about the pro gamers and um there was an there's an explanation into there as to why luke might be
[2473.89] Edd: might be as good as he is um that apparently after the age of 22 your muscle response and your thumbs
[2479.97] Edd: and your coordination with the eyes is is dropped off quite considerably compared to when you're a
[2484.69] Tony: teenager he's not found women either no that's it that's our only hope next yeah well is he
[2493.33] Adam: already how old is he luke 15 15 yeah see now a couple of weeks he's going to find a girl
[2503.09] Jack: from dubai yeah that's it well you know if they if it makes it big you know and and they just do
[2509.41] Adam: give you lots of you know yes one can only assume the women are very attractive in dubai
[2514.29] Jack: because they make them hide under things yeah oh lord help me why do i let him on you've been
[2520.93] Jack: listening to let dro out tune in next week from eight to nine thank you for joining us uh hopefully
[2528.21] Jack: we should have someone someone on so all good and um yep and we'll tell you and fill you in more
[2537.57] Jack: with the um with the upcoming events that are going on thanks for uh thanks for listening guys telemetry lost