=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 39 === Title: Ep 39 - Skitzo On Air! Recorded: 2016-05-26 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Adam Juniper, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant Guest(s): Anaseed, Peter "The Editor" Hyams, Skitzo Davis Total audience: 2,439 Platforms: SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/266585326-letsdroneout-ep-39-skitzo-on-air.mp3) ==================================== Jonathan 'Skitzo' Davis uses every internet connection at his disposal to get through to LDO this week, chatting about his hydrodipped, vinyl sticker bombed frames and mad acro piloting.. [0.0] Peter: And now for a quick note from the editor. This week the internet connection was rather [13.73] Peter: erratic and the audio of poor quality. We suspect that this is down to GCHQ testing [19.09] Peter: new internet censorship techniques as they have been told by airline pilots that plastic bags, [24.85] Peter: sorry um drones, are unsafe. For this podcast the poor quality audio could not be fixed, [31.49] Peter: but the erratic connection was edited so that it's barely noticeable. Thank you. [36.45] Skitzo: Hello and you're listening to. Let's bloody drone out sorry editor. On power it on. [43.09] Jack: In the background you can hear Adam Juniper who's written two books and some more books [50.53] Jack: and we're joined by Frank. Hello. And Tony. And guess what we have got [60.85] Jack: the wonderful beautiful unicorn of the FPV world. The rare. I can't do a drumroll. [69.66] Jack: Skit so. Hey what's up guys. Hey. Hey people people love you and right I'm gonna instantly [78.62] Jack: set upon you right. I saw a post the other day and you were like I'll never fly as good as Chad [84.7] Jack: or Steel and you know you're feeling sorry for yourself and I just like to say stop being a tarp. [96.86] Jack: Stop being a little bitch because the next day like a couple of days later you'll dive bombing [102.94] Jack: through this concrete hole at like easy 60 miles an hour. You know we all have bad days. [110.94] Skitzo Davis: But I you know I feel like I go through emo moments you know where I just feel down on myself [117.66] Skitzo Davis: and you know I see a lot you know Chad and Steel are are really technical flyers. Ethan as well [124.3] Skitzo Davis: you know the very precise really really good pilots and I think you know I just immediately [128.54] Skitzo Davis: think since I can't do that that I'm not good you know. So I just decided to embrace whatever [136.62] Skitzo Davis: whatever it is I'm doing and just not care about anything else. There's so many [141.98] Skitzo: worst pilots out there I'll tell you there's so many people out there who can't even fly. [148.46] Jack: Yeah yeah. We're sorry that everyone thinks that you were dead the other day. [155.58] Jack: We couldn't get hold of you. It was Tony's fault he spread that vicious rumor and Chad joined in [162.54] Skitzo Davis: but we're glad you're here. Oh yeah I mean I was I was getting YouTube comments and [171.34] Skitzo Davis: people even texting me going oh my god you're dead. I was kind of debating on and responding [176.22] Adam: and I was like maybe I should not respond and ride this out. You get a nice break that way. [184.46] Skitzo Davis: Relax and stay away from the world for a few weeks. Oh my word. There's people like leaving [188.7] Skitzo Davis: YouTube comments. Yeah that's right. I don't know if it'll work that way. Yeah you could have [195.34] Jack: really started again. You could have like reinvented yourself. You could have been like you know. [201.74] Jack: So have you been working on any projects or doing anything lately? I saw you in [207.66] Jack: in Steel's latest video where you guys were chilling on top of a car park. I'm guessing [214.22] Jack: you guys are doing like different spots flying for two packs and then moving on. [220.3] Skitzo Davis: Yeah because I don't know you know there's a lot of times where we're just kind of driving around [227.58] Skitzo Davis: and hanging out and then we'll see a spot that looks really cool. We might get kicked out or [232.46] Skitzo Davis: you know there might be people around or something so we we kind of like wait until there's that [237.98] Skitzo Davis: opportune moment. We just kind of jump out of the car you know hit it for like a minute bring [242.38] Skitzo Davis: the quad back and take off you know. We call it hit it and quit it spots or one battery wonder [247.42] Skitzo Davis: you know. We just kind of hit it and never flown there before. We just go up there with one battery [251.82] Skitzo Davis: and see what we can do and sometimes it turns out really cool. I like that hit it and quit it. I [256.3] Skitzo: think me and Brad are going to hit it and quit it on the Sunday morning we've got a nice. Oh yeah [261.34] Skitzo: you two are getting close now. We've got a nice little hit it and quit it plan we're gonna do. [267.26] Jack: That's right. Chris G says I'm imagining highly stimulated and intellectual nourishing [275.26] Jack: conversation. Well you were on the wrong show didn't you? Yeah totally. That's it. If anyone's got [280.3] Skitzo: if anyone's. That's right he's not listening to us so he's fine. He's only in on the chat because [284.86] Adam: he's still at work. I'll try to keep you guys grounded. Okay yeah well if you can type stuff [289.26] Adam: about you know advanced philosophy while we chat that would make it you know work fine for him. [294.46] Jack: So how did you get into the hobby man? Is he still there? Oh let's get so dead again. [316.27] Jack: So much for this this interview uh add to cool. He's he is a dumb dumb. It's cool. [325.15] Jack: What do you have on it? That's it yeah he's had enough. There. Yo how you doing? Um how did I [332.75] Jack: lose you? We lost you man. Are you still there? Oh my god is it is this like it's some sort of [347.22] Skitzo: weird like him trying to torture me. I think we're just uh doomed to forever uh on paring on have uh [356.42] Skitzo: schizo possibly coming. I think we're just going to be caught in the state of limbo. Yeah. Quantum [363.38] Skitzo: state of both having him on and not having him on at the same time. The next showdown mate. [368.26] Jack: You mean sure coding at schizo. Yeah we're existing both states. Hey man this is getting [374.66] Jack: quite intellectual actually. See uh oh is he back? Hello. Yep. This is definitely like the good old [389.63] Adam: days. Oh man. Yeah. I'm not feeling much more comfortable. I am. It was all going to get [397.15] Adam: dangerously perplexed. Thank you FPP formula in the chat who said schizo past wind. Yeah. [406.51] Skitzo Davis: Oh can you hear me now? Yes. Hello. All right. All right. I switched to my computer. I wasn't [411.71] Skitzo Davis: my iPad being lazy so maybe we'll we'll be good. No worries. Um how did you get [417.15] Skitzo Davis: common questions? How did you get into the hobby? Um I got into the hobby um because I was really [426.03] Skitzo Davis: into film and uh I was working on a actually I was working on a B rated horror movie like a [432.99] Skitzo Davis: really terrible horror movie that I wanted to make and uh there was a uh I needed to do an aerial [438.67] Skitzo Davis: shot for the scene so I went out and bought a DJI Phantom and um then I actually came across the [445.23] Skitzo Davis: metal or I came across the blackout guys. I came across metal Danny flying through the woods uh [450.91] Skitzo Davis: in his blackout 330 on YouTube and that was it like I just I craigslist and sold everything [457.31] Skitzo Davis: and then never looked back. Nice. Wow. I thought you're gonna say you actually met him in the woods [463.31] Skitzo Davis: filming your horror movie. Oh that would be amazing. That would be way better. That would be [468.83] Jack: an actual horror movie because nothing there's nothing more than scary than the disturbing and [474.19] Jack: angry Viking guy. I know. I've heard some stories about metal Danny. Let's just say. Did you guys did [483.15] Skitzo Davis: you guys ever see the movie Mummy? No. It's called the Mummy. The Mummy. Oh it's terrible. What the yeah [489.23] Skitzo Davis: terrible movie right? Like no no no it's a D American one. Anyway some of the guys he looks [499.23] Skitzo Davis: exactly like the Mummy guy. I'm just letting you know like I'll find a picture right now while you [503.31] Skitzo Davis: guys are talking but um whack it in the chat. Yeah yeah that that's how I got into it though [510.83] Skitzo Davis: was I was in the film you know films. Um yeah because you you know you say you're not very [518.91] Jack: technical uh flying skill and stuff you are very smooth. I've heard people talk about and really [524.91] Jack: love and enjoy your flying on like just the way you fly. Do you are you consciously doing that or [532.59] Jack: are you you know as you're flying what's going on in your mind? Do you [537.39] Jack: like even more looking at stuff and like composing things or are you just flying? Are you living? [544.99] Skitzo Davis: Yeah I always you know everyone I think has a different battle plan. [550.11] Skitzo Davis: Okay we lost. I don't know what's going on yeah um. How do you fly? I guess a lot of people are [556.27] Skitzo Davis: looking at porn. It's keeping the network busy. I don't know it's not I don't know I've never [561.55] Jack: had this problem before. Weird. Um yeah how are you flying? Sorry that's what we were asking you. [570.51] Skitzo Davis: Okay yeah so a lot of guys that I fly with will usually like kind of like walk around and they're [576.35] Skitzo Davis: they'll kind of plan it out you know like oh I'm gonna do this through here and I'm gonna fly over [580.83] Skitzo Davis: that and they have like this battle plan. I don't I don't really do that I just kind of like you know [585.95] Skitzo Davis: go up and wing it you know and it somehow works out. Yeah so no I don't I don't have any kind of [591.79] Skitzo Davis: plan or any kind of it just happens. You are more freestyle than the freestyle people. [597.07] Jack: Maybe I don't know I guess that's what that means. Do you um are you like are you do you have a tune [604.51] Jack: with black box or are you tuning just so it gets you that smooth feeling and like are you [612.43] Jack: you know are you adjusting your you know your P's like lower than most people's or how are you [617.71] Jack: setting up your quad? What's different from yours to say someone like Steel or something? [624.03] Jack: Uh yeah he is the guy from the mummy that is hilarious. I know that's that's the mummy guy [629.07] Skitzo Davis: and that he every time I see metal Danny now I think of the mummy I'm sorry yeah just it has to [634.43] Skitzo Davis: happen. Um tune our tunes are usually the same whenever I have seen Steel's tune and stuff like [642.88] Skitzo Davis: that. I think it's more my flying style is just weird like how I how I actually fly and uh [650.56] Skitzo Davis: so I actually fly with people expect because I fly so smooth that I'm on like really high expo [656.64] Skitzo Davis: or something like that but um I actually fly pretty low expo on kids fly controller I fly with zero [662.72] Skitzo Davis: um expo curve so but uh anyway I fly with like with low expo and really high rates but I just [670.96] Skitzo Davis: barely move the sticks if that makes sense. My sticks never go beyond like half gimbal you know [678.0] Jack: so. Do you find Taranis? Yeah. Have you still got the uh phantom? [686.08] Skitzo Davis: Uh no I sold it like I don't know the the next day after I saw the mini quad stuff. [692.88] Jack: Yeah like Blackout was the the frame to go for at one point wasn't it really? [698.64] Skitzo Davis: Oh yeah I tried to get one for a while I mean they were always sold out you know. [703.12] Skitzo Davis: Maybe everyone was selling it. It was like the unicorn you know frame back then. Yeah did you [708.32] Jack: change out the plastic standoff some metal ones or how did you rock it? I ran for a while I ran [716.24] Skitzo Davis: the nylon standoffs and the nylon you know how it came with nylon bolts too? Yeah yeah totally [722.0] Skitzo Davis: though a nightmare because the problem with that is if you crashed it just like sheared off every [726.32] Skitzo Davis: time right so uh what I did is I actually kept the nylon standoffs but I ran the aluminum bolts [732.8] Skitzo Davis: as opposed to the nylon and that worked pretty well. Yeah fair enough. Have you been working [738.4] Jack: on any other products? Have you got your own color of props and motors in the you know and stuff [744.4] Jack: like that? Do you want to promote anything about that? Um no but I have been like having really [752.4] Skitzo Davis: cool ideas of a frame. I would like to come out with my own frame eventually but I don't know [757.44] Jack: when that will happen or if it will. Oh you might it might be the good the good rumor right about now. [763.92] Skitzo Davis: I have a really cool idea that I want to share with you guys but I kind of want to like I'm [768.24] Skitzo Davis: like I kind of want to show everyone before I talk about it. Quick everyone it depends paper write it [773.52] Skitzo Davis: down pattern office tomorrow. No it's not that it's just that it's like the shock factor I want [779.76] Skitzo Davis: to see. I'm hoping it's going to be as cool as I'm thinking. Penis like props? [785.92] Skitzo Davis: Trust me you can think of penis like props. I'm basically I'm basically just gonna you know I [790.88] Skitzo Davis: don't know if you saw there was a period or a couple months ago I hydro dipped in an alien frame [798.56] Skitzo Davis: and that's really cool like pattern. Yeah. And it's about really cool so I've got a really cool [803.76] Skitzo Davis: idea on like a vinyl sticker bomb thing on my next one that I think will be really cool but [810.4] Skitzo Davis: that's essentially all I'm going to say. But it's going to be awesome and I'm hopefully going to be [815.2] Jack: able to show it this weekend. Yeah because I'm loving I'm loving Steel's Hello Kitty goggles man [824.56] Jack: I'm well jealous. Yeah those are funny. Oh man. Yeah tell us your story. So you bought the black [832.48] Jack: out and then flew that for ages then what happened? Hold on hold on back up back up. Whoa whoa. [839.12] Skitzo: Did you fly right straight away or horizon and angle first? I flew I think angle mode actually [847.12] Skitzo Davis: for the for about a month. Wow. And and then Steel you know Steel when I met Steel he had been flying [853.6] Skitzo Davis: for a little while he's got about six months on me. So. Well he's hell he's first. Yeah but I mean [861.28] Skitzo Davis: at this time he had been flying quads for a while before I did and so I came you know I met him and [866.64] Skitzo Davis: he's like dude you know after we flew together for like a month he was like you need to fly rate [871.84] Skitzo Davis: mode you know you need to try out manual mode and I was like all right fine and I was so bad at it [877.04] Skitzo Davis: like it was almost like you know a kid riding a bike on training wheels and then you take off [882.48] Skitzo Davis: the training wheels and you just explode over and over again just like keep wiping it out. Yeah it [886.72] Skitzo Davis: was bad. Oh man. And then uh and then it just like clicked you know what I mean like it was [892.08] Skitzo Davis: something that I was really struggling with for like a week or so and then all of a sudden I [897.28] Skitzo: just didn't think about it anymore. Yeah you just get that muscle memory don't you? Yeah yeah [903.2] Skitzo Davis: basically. Yeah it's good. And uh I kind of wish that I just started out on rate mode but I you [909.44] Skitzo Davis: probably would blow up a lot more props you know. It is. There is something to be said about both I [916.56] Skitzo Davis: mean if you start off in rate mode you're going to crash a lot more it might be more discouraging [920.8] Skitzo Davis: versus starting off in angle mode at least you have like something you know somewhat successful [924.72] Skitzo Davis: flights and you're not exploding props all the time so. And it gives you. I don't know you're [929.36] Skitzo Davis: either going to crash a lot one way and learn faster or you're going to you know yeah do the [934.56] Skitzo: basic stuff. Excuse me I think if I would have started in Acro I would have probably given up. [940.56] Skitzo: That's my personal thing I would have just gone. I hear from a lot of people they're like oh [945.12] Skitzo Davis: you know start in rate mode don't even fool around with you know stabilization at all and I [949.92] Skitzo Davis: don't know if I really agree with that as well I think it would be because you know at least when [955.28] Skitzo Davis: I started it was 3S there was zero information on the internet about anything you were literally [960.88] Skitzo Davis: on your own and like let alone crashing and breaking stuff all the time yeah it would have [965.68] Adam: been very discouraging. Yeah and how many of those people do you think is the rate mode? [970.4] Adam: No. There are people who've been around for a bit they probably started you know same and then [976.56] Adam: they're just trying to make make it harder for other people to join. Yeah. It's easier to learn [981.6] Skitzo Davis: in steps. Yeah I mean this hobby right now is not really that you know user friendly I mean there [989.04] Skitzo Davis: is a wealth of information you can find now but it's still you know if you're not buying something [994.8] Skitzo Davis: that's ready to fly I mean there's a lot of stuff you need to learn you gotta learn how to solder [998.4] Jack: and you know. Or learn how to solder. Sorry dude. Sorry shots fired. Sorry bits. Yeah so he goes [1011.36] Jack: all quiet when you mock him he's a very delicate fragile human being and he's nice enough and we'll [1017.44] Skitzo Davis: talk to you and you'll just sat here eating. Oh I just thought he didn't hear what I said and like [1022.56] Skitzo Davis: he just said the same thing yeah man yeah just learn how to solder. That's not too bad [1028.16] Jack: he's not like soldering you know like yeah that sounds a bit. Well that's what I mean it's [1033.36] Jack: solder mice. It's just different. Am I allowed to say that word Frank? Yeah it's perfectly legitimate [1039.44] Adam: word. Yeah. Yeah I guess. Solder. It's like in the right context I can say you're a bastard. Yeah I [1047.68] Jack: suppose. Right so I think with with angle mode I don't think there's anything wrong with it. [1056.08] Jack: I think that it will give you the confidence enjoyment and get you used to being high low [1061.76] Jack: in the air. It can also teach you how far you should be off the ground you know for a close [1069.28] Skitzo Davis: flash. I think that it's gonna you probably won't advance as fast like if you're someone that is [1076.16] Skitzo Davis: very hardcore and really wants to learn and be like a top you know top pilot or whatever you [1081.92] Skitzo Davis: know there's those impatient people. You might want to start out of rate mode if you've got the [1086.16] Skitzo Davis: money and you've got the you know tolerance to crashing all the time because that's what I did [1090.16] Skitzo Davis: with airplanes. I crashed a lot of airplanes to finally but I learned very flat fast you know [1095.6] Skitzo Davis: within a month I'm flying with like a lot of the top pilots out there. Yeah so but I crashed a lot [1100.88] Skitzo Davis: right it cost a lot of money and it's very frustrating so you got to push yourself. Yeah [1106.96] Jack: FPV formula says sims do that learn without busting props but I always think gravity is kind of off. [1114.8] Skitzo Davis: Yeah but I've never I've never had found a simulator that feels like real life at all. [1119.28] Skitzo Davis: I mean yeah you can get like you know the general feel of it there but it's not going to behave the [1124.72] Jack: same. Also the the other side of it for me the hardest point of flying because I went on horizon [1135.04] Jack: mode for a while and the hardest point of flying rate for me was realizing that you didn't have to [1142.24] Jack: return to level to stay in the air. It doesn't matter you can be at a sort of like 45 degree [1149.6] Jack: roll and it will just stay in the air like and especially air mode trying to trying to explain [1156.56] Jack: to someone how air mode feels using only words. It's quite it's really difficult you know you [1166.08] Jack: can explain like you know the the motors don't stop the PID loop doesn't stop it keeps you it [1171.28] Jack: kind of gives you like bullet time but we call it hang time and you're still in full control. It [1177.44] Jack: just sounds ridiculous yeah that's the only way I can explain it to like newbies you know. Yeah [1186.56] Adam: that's it bullet time newbies newbies probably can't remember the mate [1191.2] Adam: I'm just thinking all those kids you know um like Manister yeah when it how old was he when the [1197.6] Adam: matrices came out he was probably not even conceived. Well he's only 10 years later at [1202.72] Adam: in primary school. Yeah in primary school did you actually related to school? Well not in primary [1210.08] Jack: school but we're not at the time I was in primary school. When did it come out? Sorry I don't know. [1226.08] Jack: This is what happens on powering on it's just like it goes off on like talking about [1230.64] Jack: lawnmowers and arguing and then reading out ESC graphs. I'm so sorry also I want to start a rumor [1238.4] Jack: did you not come on on purpose last week because you didn't want to deal with Chad? [1245.6] Jack: He hung up again that was it. [1255.1] Jack: I said did I want to start a vicious rumor did you put on purposely [1259.98] Jack: purposely not to come on last week because you didn't want to deal with Chad? [1264.06] Skitzo Davis: Oh no no I honestly forgot I'm I'm really bad at that kind of stuff. Yeah he said [1272.3] Skitzo Davis: probably would have missed it again had you not told like told me every hour that [1277.58] Jack: that was Frank he's like has he responded okay I hate hassling people I'm like I literally just [1284.7] Jack: want to tell someone what you were like look just remind me the day before and like posting [1289.74] Jack: on your wall and being like I just like I felt like such a no I'm just really yeah it's not like [1296.14] Skitzo Davis: because I don't care or anything I just have a really bad like in honestly honestly as soon as [1302.06] Skitzo Davis: you said hey we're gonna be on in five minutes I was literally I had my bag and I was getting ready [1306.46] Skitzo Davis: to go fly and I was like wait what oh yeah you know like I'm just really forgetful it's not [1313.1] Skitzo Davis: I've always been that way my whole life so it's nothing personal. Every time Skype drops out are [1317.58] Adam: you halfway to go and fly as well yeah he's like are you there frantically clicking yeah that's it [1322.86] Jack: I've had enough so any any cool stories you can tell like you know your best days flying or you [1328.94] Jack: know how was the like for instance the what was it called the the three expo where you guys were [1336.46] Jack: doing the three yeah the the freestyle through there can you tell us a little bit about that [1341.82] Jack: because I'm just interested in your stories man like you showed up and that was [1351.09] Skitzo Davis: probably one of the coolest yeah that was probably one of the highlights of my you know [1355.81] Skitzo Davis: FPV career just because I got that was when I got to meet everybody you know because I I I only fly [1363.09] Skitzo Davis: out of Atlanta I'm not like a big traveler I like to I'm like I'm homebody so I was never able to [1368.61] Skitzo Davis: meet anybody until you know we had it we had the big that competition was here right like in my [1373.25] Skitzo Davis: hometown so uh you know that was when I got to meet Carlos I got to meet Sharpeu I got to meet [1378.61] Skitzo Davis: Chad for the first time I got to meet all these pilots that I looked up to for so many you know [1383.41] Jack: Alex and flight test were you a flight test guy what got you into this man like you know that's [1388.69] Jack: what because like for me it was flight test you know like what kind of got you uh well that that [1395.01] Skitzo Davis: was really cool because I got to meet them too because I I had you know when I start first started [1399.57] Skitzo Davis: flying I would I would always watch white flight tests uh and stuff you know because they were [1405.33] Skitzo Davis: really the only like prominent like RC you know channel around I guess like I used to watch Bruce [1412.05] Jack: you know the RC model review guy Bruce Simpson man we love Bruce yeah we really want him on man [1418.45] Skitzo Davis: if you got a contact he's great I just so I used to watch him and I used to watch flight tests and [1423.81] Skitzo Davis: there was also this uh I want to say he's an Indian guy his name's like Al Shyamalo or man you [1431.01] Jack: know I am Shyamalo yeah I know the guy he's all about the phantoms though and stuff man I [1439.25] Skitzo Davis: never dug him like you know okay well I used to watch all three of them in terms of like that [1445.09] Skitzo Davis: was my when I would get home from flying or crashing or whatever I would get home and those [1449.01] Skitzo Davis: are the channels I would watch because I wasn't I didn't really know anyone this is you know I [1452.45] Skitzo Davis: didn't really know much about like there's the blackout guys right who there who is like these [1456.85] Skitzo Davis: like these like rogue pilots that nobody knows anything about and can't get a hold of them but [1461.73] Skitzo Davis: they they're posting these crazy videos yeah so Boris as well Boris was early yeah well Boris [1468.05] Skitzo Davis: was a part of black so yeah seven E man exactly so that that was it and I watched the little TBS [1474.69] Skitzo Davis: stuff too you know but that was about it that was about it that was like the that was what there [1479.25] Skitzo Davis: was to watch it's kind of like being a kid back in like the 30s and there's only two channels [1483.57] Skitzo Davis: on television you know whatever so it was a really dark time when I mean it was a really [1490.93] Skitzo Davis: cool fascinating time but it was also so I don't know mysterious you know what I mean yeah so [1498.53] Skitzo Davis: so that's where I met flight test and I was just geeking out because I finally got to meet Josh [1502.77] Skitzo Davis: from fight tests and Peter and Alex and uh and I and and I remember the first thing I thought [1508.45] Skitzo Davis: about Josh is okay there's something wrong with this guy there's something there's something up [1512.53] Skitzo Davis: about this guy he's way too nice even in person yeah I love him to death like you don't understand [1520.85] Skitzo Davis: he's like the coolest nicest guy you will ever meet and it's almost it's almost like a weird [1525.49] Skitzo Davis: nice like he's too nice like there's an ulterior motive here yeah or something what do you think [1530.45] Jack: it is maybe you've just not found out yet I don't know he calls you brother as well I'm sure he's [1535.25] Skitzo Davis: part of like some sort of murder cult like where he's a serial killer this is the perfect disguise [1544.21] Skitzo Davis: right yeah that's it incredibly nice like so nice just so had a lot of fun with them and then we [1551.89] Skitzo Davis: just kind of we kind of stayed in touch after f3 expo and uh we ended up shooting a few episodes [1557.09] Jack: together on flight tests yeah I saw you and ragging the weak wings out and stuff man the [1562.69] Skitzo Davis: any arrows I'm flying wings man had a blast with that so you know I didn't I didn't really [1567.89] Skitzo Davis: have any RC experience at all before the whole FPV explosion so it was kind of fun you know [1573.57] Skitzo Davis: branching out and flying wings and some now I'm big into 3d uh fixed wing and yeah things like [1580.77] Skitzo Davis: that so it's just kind of fun being able to branch out and and uh you know touch base with [1584.77] Jack: those communities as well did he did he ever you know when you're building them would did he ever [1590.05] Jack: no we lost him I'm just gonna ask did he um did he say can he fly line of sight yeah I reckon he can [1597.97] Skitzo: well Leo Whitfield in in the chat asked uh on his opinion of the alien vessels the QVR so yeah if [1605.49] Skitzo: we do get him back then maybe what does um let skits fly I uh I think he flies an alien [1613.41] Skitzo: uh I've got the uh QVR lined up for the image anyway look I can't find his alien I've got [1624.05] Skitzo: uh looking through his his Facebook I can see the QVR I can see the QAV10 [1631.81] Skitzo: look at Frank Stork at him go on Frank Stork yeah skits so flies both says Leo [1637.17] Jack: there we go what does he prefer then let's get him back yeah I am definitely I'm tweaking [1644.69] Jack: tweaking my nipples all that attuning in if anything is yeah that's it it just needs [1651.57] Jack: just needs to pull the buying plug out of his butt [1657.89] Jack: skits so you are much using a condom machine in the Vatican sometimes [1663.41] Skitzo: I don't don't don't say anything Adam don't say anything I'm warning you I resisted it [1671.41] Jack: I'll let it go plus it might be about to come back yeah I I do want to I was thinking about [1679.49] Skitzo Davis: asking for a late night hello I think I think it's my there's just something wrong with my [1684.05] Skitzo Davis: internet I just I just lost internet connectivity all together something's going on yeah anyway [1688.85] Jack: um did he ever refer when you were building the mini arrows did he ever refer to the table [1693.09] Jack: was your friend did he ever refer to what the table as being your friend um I think so [1700.13] Jack: oh man he just said the word friend and buddy a lot so I just kind of it just kind of [1706.37] Jack: the table's your friend because I'll be cutting your liver out on it [1710.21] Skitzo: I know we got a question for you in the chat Frank yep so you know my field asked earlier [1719.81] Skitzo: the alien versus security are so what's with your thoughts between them and compare you're [1726.21] Jack: gonna put me on the spot yeah basically skits so if you don't say impulse RC I'm gonna break your [1733.01] Skitzo Davis: legs if I see ya now I'm just all right so I don't really want and I don't really need to [1740.85] Skitzo Davis: go into the background of both I think everybody pretty much knows roughly what they are but um [1746.05] Skitzo: you can just touch on it man I've got I've I've got your QAVR build up on the canvas on the on [1752.37] Skitzo: the front page so people can look at that one at least I'm trying to find a picture of your alien [1757.65] Skitzo Davis: that I'm struggling put it in the chat box if you go on uh yeah I've got my hydro-dipped one [1764.69] Skitzo: that you guys never looked at is that the one with like the green props I don't know what it had on [1773.41] Tony: it I've got a hydro-dipped one I'm assuming that's probably it so I've got my props on it I don't [1781.33] Skitzo: know about green props I fire yeah there we go Jack flies by props what shut up you [1796.93] Skitzo Davis: flies by yeah by props it's gonna be an instagram photo all right here I got [1806.85] Jack: see he does the weird antenna thing on the on the back as well that's weird [1813.01] Skitzo: I don't know how I feel about that it's it's still there oriented properly for when it's [1822.54] Skitzo: but when you know when you're at fill till it's broadcasting outwards equally in all directions [1832.94] Skitzo Davis: are you loving the kiss at the moment um I actually have been flying beta fight for a while um [1842.82] Skitzo Davis: um what fc uh so the locks the ready-made dodo and also the cyclone [1852.74] Skitzo: on the lab stick on yeah I fly the dodo and I love it and I love the board layout and everything [1860.18] Skitzo: yes is it is it your favorite flight controller out of the three what is your favorite one if you [1865.3] Skitzo: could pick one uh they like they just like benefit different things so we're in a language [1872.32] Skitzo: we're not including the kiss flight controller all right no just just out of the uh dodo and [1877.12] Skitzo Davis: uh I would say I've been flying the dodo for a really long time uh and I like that [1882.48] Skitzo Davis: it's very reliable um and like you said it's laid out very easily you know it's very easily uh [1888.88] Skitzo Davis: it's labeled well and you know and everything so yeah but I would say the cyclone is probably [1893.92] Skitzo Davis: my favorite right now because it can do eight kilohertz and it's not noisy so [1899.04] Jack: what's the layout on the cyclone like is it horrible no labels no labels it's basically top [1907.04] Jack: and bottom pins no labels at all you have no labels you have to reference to a you know a [1913.2] Skitzo Davis: diagram online or something so it's kind of annoying because of that but I'm talking about [1918.0] Skitzo Davis: the actual board itself yeah it's the only board that does eight kilohertz and is also noise free [1924.96] Skitzo Davis: um when I say noise free like the gyro is not as sensitive yeah noise [1932.64] Skitzo Davis: it's his favorite because we're having problems if you're gonna what I'm saying is if you're if [1938.48] Skitzo Davis: you want to try out eight kilohertz and multi-shot and all that kind of stuff definitely go for the [1943.76] Skitzo Davis: cyclone the lux will do it as well but the lux has a little bit of noise problems until [1948.16] Skitzo Davis: boris kind of fixes that which I think he did he has solved the one go on oh go on again [1959.28] Adam: what have you got on your news if you still don't i'll see if i can get into an item before um [1966.08] Adam: we reconnect yeah exactly it's actually it's been a quite busy day hang on hey can you hear me yeah [1974.64] Jack: right we'll answer this question then we'll go to the news and then we'll go all right we should [1980.56] Skitzo Davis: be good now i'm on my cell i don't know what's going on you sound so much better yeah it sounds [1984.8] Jack: cool okay right so boris has fixed the problem with the lux that's what you're saying well i said [1991.6] Skitzo Davis: that he's fixed a lot of the problems and he's getting close but i don't think it's completely [1996.24] Jack: gone but yes he's getting close what are you doing for the because i'm using little bees on [2002.96] Jack: my cyclone and i'm getting uh min throttle problems and i don't yeah i don't want to [2010.96] Jack: basically it's just really sort of like drop my throttle real low and then suddenly i just [2016.16] Jack: yore violently and um apparently they've solved that problem on uh with the b o heli uh one shot [2026.16] Jack: but when you want to be on multi shot i don't know what i'm supposed to do about that [2029.44] Jack: so i guess i have to raise it up i don't know you tell me um i haven't tried to be a heli in one shot [2038.24] Skitzo Davis: like i i went straight to multi shot and i haven't had i have the little bees 30 amps yeah the 30 amp [2045.92] Skitzo Davis: pocs and i haven't had any problems on eight four or eight kilohertz you know so i don't know i [2052.56] Skitzo Davis: so i don't know i blame your tuning problem i'm just kidding i don't i don't really know i [2058.96] Skitzo Davis: don't really know in your face you know because there's there's there's so many things that can [2062.8] Skitzo Davis: be that be wrong you know you could have you can just have a simple motor that's like unbalanced [2067.44] Skitzo Davis: that can cause that you know yeah so it could actually be a physical problem with the frame [2072.48] Skitzo Davis: that you can't you know what i mean like you can go up there and spin each motor and they all feel [2076.72] Skitzo Davis: fine but one will be a little you know off balance and will cause things like that to happen [2082.24] Skitzo: so yeah do you get lots of problem with clone boards in america with what boards [2089.84] Skitzo: clone boards people selling you fake boards he's he's he's sponsored man you must get everything [2096.24] Skitzo Davis: surely uh i mean i've flown a few clone i've flown like the dragonfly and [2105.2] Skitzo Davis: um i don't know if that's really considered a clone board but i'd always thought that that [2109.6] Skitzo Davis: was a clone board um i haven't i don't i don't think i've had many i don't i'm not experienced [2116.16] Skitzo Davis: enough to really answer that question that i've mainly fly the the name brand stuff like you said [2121.84] Skitzo Davis: yeah uh but yeah i mean i can see that being a problem yeah it's just over here we got a lot of [2128.8] Skitzo: clone boards hitting the uk shops and markets is that a bad thing or yeah because they've [2135.12] Skitzo: i've gone through five boards on a new frame trying to set it up since last friday and it [2141.6] Skitzo: won't fly wow yeah okay and he's a well well named brand some of them i don't want to say [2149.76] Skitzo: yeah you don't want a name drop no no no but some of them are well known well known and [2156.16] Skitzo Davis: they're just not working yeah i i haven't really heard too much about that here i don't know if [2162.8] Skitzo Davis: that's a big problem i'm here yet it definitely is here i mean if you go to if i go to you know a [2169.28] Skitzo Davis: local hobby shop there they sell nays you know rev sixes and you know there's not really any [2174.88] Jack: clone board stuff i've got a tricopter brother in the chat by the way two more hello my friend [2184.08] Adam: right uh new adam okay so quick round i'll do a quick round up so we can keep chatting no um [2191.6] Adam: first uh the npd group of boring business analyst types now telling us there will be seven million [2199.28] Adam: sold in 2020 uh that's based on 2.5 million this year and the average price of a new drone is 550 [2209.04] Adam: dollars which seems quite high um big chinese consumer electronics company called zao me though [2215.36] Adam: definitely going to target that price because they've got a phantom alike coming out for 300 [2221.44] Adam: sorry for 260 pounds or 310 pounds for a 4k model so that could really change the uh [2229.12] Adam: the prices and really screw up uh everyone's favorite evil chinese empire yeah but that will [2234.56] Skitzo: bring the prices down for everyone won't it which would be a good thing it's pretty it's pretty [2239.36] Adam: exciting because it does look like they've you know they've tried to make something well i think [2243.92] Skitzo Davis: that quite you know just just like you know i think i think just like everything right anything [2248.16] Skitzo Davis: with technology um it's just a matter of time until the prices come down and it will be [2254.08] Skitzo Davis: something that every household has you know um well they have no one even they don't think [2259.92] Adam: every household will have one well not not every house that was that was the wrong choice of words [2264.88] Skitzo Davis: but i meant like the you know like the concept of like when a brand new telephone when le when [2271.04] Skitzo Davis: when led televisions came out they were like five thousand dollars a piece now they're like [2275.36] Skitzo Davis: you know five hundred dollars at walmart you know what i mean like it's it's uh any kind of [2281.44] Skitzo Davis: new technology is going to be expensive and then as we as it's out for a long time and there's a [2285.44] Skitzo Davis: lot of research and development it the prices go down on everything so i think it's feasible to [2292.0] Adam: to to see that you know this is going to get cheaper i think yeah team or in the chat saying [2298.24] Adam: that their products don't usually come out to china but of course they can be white labeled so [2302.8] Adam: we may well see them coming out for a different name uh also in the news this week another air [2308.48] Adam: procs um a pilot in spain says he saw and had to steer away from three drones at about 900 meters [2315.68] Adam: in airbus a320 well there's three three carrier bags then yeah yeah um naturally of course um [2325.76] Adam: they sent out a helicopter the helicopter didn't see anything and now it's being investigated by [2330.72] Adam: span or the spanish agency of air navigation is that is that what they're called span [2337.36] Adam: they are called span uh you don't have to put in all this but i like it yeah i like it uh spain [2344.24] Adam: interestingly is the country that really properly they have got trained eagles at the royal palaces [2351.36] Adam: to attack any drones that might come nearby um and they still have a royal family which is [2356.72] Adam: hilarious no country would ever you sure as silly as that that would [2362.32] Adam: it's just mental um finally uh i mean london sorry go on oh no that's fine go ahead no you're [2372.64] Skitzo: you're the you're the guest you're the guest you can interrupt us at any time or any one you know i [2379.68] Skitzo Davis: don't know if you're like i don't know if you're wanting my two cents on that or you're just like [2383.28] Jack: yes go for it go on everyone has nagged me to death and back and they were like we were [2388.72] Jack: expecting schizo jack you leo whitfield was like you had one job jack get schizo on welcome let him [2397.28] Jack: uh carlos costa says schizo have my babies the people love you talk go that's funny all right [2408.56] Skitzo Davis: so i mean i don't really i'm actually kind of interested to see uh i guess over in spain it's [2414.08] Skitzo Davis: called spain spain spain spain spain whatever it's called uh in here it's called faa so [2422.64] Skitzo Davis: i i'm interested to see what they're gonna do about this because because you know this is [2427.28] Skitzo Davis: something that's gonna been an ongoing problem is probably gonna get worse when there's a lot of [2431.2] Skitzo Davis: people seeing how seeing how high above the clouds they can fly what's that did you hear about the [2437.04] Adam: plastic um last week there was a similar thing in or a pilot reported the similar thing on the [2442.64] Adam: approach to heath row um and then later said it might have been a plastic bag he said that [2450.16] Adam: his aircraft had hit the drone but there was no evidence when they um [2453.84] Adam: got to the ground and then later they said it might have been a plastic bag [2458.24] Adam: interesting blowing it like um uh american beauty well here there there was a um there [2463.84] Skitzo Davis: was a case here where some guy took a phantom and he strapped a bunch of like knives and [2468.72] Skitzo Davis: weapons and stuff to it and flew it over a prison fence and landed it so i mean like you've got all [2475.2] Skitzo Davis: this weird stuff it's like how are you going to regulate that i don't know how that this they're [2478.96] Adam: going to solve this problem only get worse i'd love to say only in america but we know in australia [2484.56] Adam: they're used for drugs runs the last thing this week was that it was uh the drone film festival [2490.96] Adam: in london uh which is kind of weird they call themselves the first annual drone film festival [2495.6] Adam: but there was a drone film festival back in december just run by someone else so it was [2499.6] Adam: a second time then yeah this was at the ica though really posh institute of contemporary arts [2505.6] Adam: they had a screening room and they showed drone films for three and a half hours [2510.32] Adam: which is far too long to be watching aerial footage could you imagine that for three and a half [2516.08] Adam: i'd throw the thing and the last category was show reels so you just had this [2522.24] Adam: saturated building crescendo music and they did not have a time limit on their show reels [2528.48] Adam: so they were some of them were 10 minutes which is a long long time to be watching skits is [2534.24] Skitzo: a thing skits you i think you kind of skimmed the uh the the question that we asked [2542.16] Skitzo: uh what would you ask about the two quads we didn't get a good answer [2550.88] Skitzo Davis: that's because you guys immediately went to news you really want to talk about the news [2555.12] Skitzo: then i don't i want to talk to you about which is better i've got no control over imagine i'm sorry [2561.6] Skitzo Davis: all right this is gonna be a neither one is better answer i didn't want to hear that yeah [2567.92] Skitzo Davis: so all right well fundamentally they're both you know they they both have their own flaws and [2576.32] Skitzo Davis: like it just kind of comes down to like what you like so in my opinion i think i like the qavr [2582.32] Skitzo Davis: because it's easier to build you can build it a lot faster there's a less oh we lost him [2592.1] Skitzo Davis: the alien i feel like is more durable it's going to [2594.66] Skitzo: do what's that no we lost you know your plate out for a minute that you're fine [2601.3] Jack: yeah oh qav easier to build lighter well yeah the qav the qavr is easier to build it's lighter [2609.54] Skitzo Davis: it can handle crashes really well but not quite as well as alien the alien i have flown the alien [2614.82] Skitzo Davis: into a four foot cement wall you know four foot thick cement wall at like full speed like multiple [2621.54] Skitzo Davis: times and it survives you know so the alien is just a tank you know it can handle a really [2631.22] Skitzo Davis: bad abuse but it weighs more and it's harder to build um it takes longer to build and it also [2637.62] Skitzo Davis: costs more right so there there's a lot of it really just kind of comes down to they both fly [2642.74] Skitzo Davis: great in terms of flight characteristics i don't really notice much of a difference they both fly [2646.74] Jack: amazing um so i got i got a good question in from you from carlos i have one question he goes [2655.62] Jack: skit so what was the most dangerous and reckless flight you've had so far yeah best question [2663.86] Skitzo Davis: dangerous dangerous and reckless yeah um which one made you you know stomach turn [2671.94] Skitzo Davis: this is hot skip the beat uh i would say i like like i have a couple or a few actually i have three [2684.86] Skitzo Davis: go for it you got six minutes the the f3 expo ryan i did was more more one of the most like [2693.1] Skitzo Davis: nervous that i've ever been in the hobby in general you know like having to perform in front [2696.54] Skitzo Davis: of people i've had never done it before you know so i was really really nervous my you know my [2701.18] Skitzo Davis: heart was in my stomach you know um and then the second time would be or i guess number two would be [2709.34] Skitzo Davis: that little cement tunnel dive thing that you saw me do that was incredibly i mean i was shaking [2713.9] Skitzo Davis: really bad the whole time you know uh because just because it was you know you would you would [2719.02] Skitzo Davis: jump up over at point down and get ready to dive and you see nothing but a little black hole like [2723.34] Skitzo Davis: you have no you know like you don't see anything until you go through it and it's really scary uh [2728.54] Jack: well you've got a term in the uk for what you get up to that i feel suits you and it's rude boy [2736.78] Jack: you are a rude boy nice nice stop being a tart you're a good flyer god damn it i will i will [2743.82] Jack: personally message you abuse on uh okay just be like shut up you tart all right good um and the [2752.38] Skitzo Davis: last one would be recently we were flying at a park and i was flying really fast and aggressive [2760.38] Skitzo Davis: in the park and then i we were we were jamming out to music because i like to fly with my bluetooth [2765.58] Skitzo Davis: speaker going and i didn't hear my friends say that he crashed and he was going out into the [2770.86] Skitzo Davis: field to get his quad and i thought i was just diving in between these two trees and then there's [2776.38] Skitzo Davis: a person right there and i was going full speed i didn't know if i was going to be able to like [2779.9] Skitzo Davis: you know bail out time and and i thought it was a random person right i thought it was just some guy [2785.5] Skitzo Davis: walking his dog or something and it was him thankfully but i wouldn't care if i hit him [2790.62] Skitzo Davis: right no i'm just kidding but still no it's a lot to eat your friends yeah it's a lot different [2795.58] Skitzo Davis: when like you know because when we go out and fly you know we're signing ourselves up to this thing [2800.46] Skitzo Davis: someone can get hurt it's going to happen eventually and i would feel less bad about [2805.66] Skitzo Davis: hitting him than i would hitting some random guy walking his dog right so yeah um but i [2812.06] Skitzo Davis: i was able to avoid him but it was just it was very you know like i flinched in like you know [2817.74] Skitzo Davis: my heart was racing uh but yeah that was the i guess the the scariest thing you know that has [2824.62] Skitzo Davis: happened we do that all the time don't we jack yeah often go out for your father make sure they [2831.98] Skitzo Davis: they're paying attention that was the first time that it was pretty close and i was going really [2835.58] Skitzo Davis: fast and diving at the same time it was not really much time to react any more questions [2843.1] Jack: in the chat yeah there is like leo whitfield i think has decided to pick a fight with you skits [2849.18] Jack: he says do you have a tiny whoop which uh i think your girlfriend did have something to say about [2854.46] Skitzo Davis: that get it i don't know do i have a tiny whoop uh yeah no but i do you know the local hobby shop [2863.34] Skitzo Davis: called me and said that they're holding one for me so i will be going to get one [2867.34] Jack: oh oh it's an aircraft that's going down that's happening that is oh kids uh tony just needs a few [2877.26] Jack: i misread that yeah i thought he was talking about his man parts yeah fpv inductrix lol yay [2887.1] Skitzo Davis: that's what it is apparently it's basically the horizon hobby and metrics with fpv gear [2894.06] Skitzo Davis: and they call that the tiny whoop it's like the nickname for it yeah that's much less funny [2899.26] Jack: nanocopter it is hilarious there's so much fun to be bad with that people people having to go [2905.26] Jack: at me jack's a noob jack get to the program uh they're on they're on par tonight just totally [2915.18] Jack: that's it i've seen it i've seen them uh build the little dubai track at the flight test [2921.34] Jack: and they were racing one of those rounds their little indoor flight test i didn't know it was [2926.78] Jack: called a whoop okay i've seen them dan optin builds dan optin builds me my nanos that's all i know [2934.3] Jack: and hasn't called on the whoop yeah um i don't know whether you listed the show last week but [2939.5] Jack: um we're hoping that uh the um final glide will come out with some um rainbow colored nuts [2949.42] Jack: for your craft yeah so like you know chad's nuts and they'll come in like a little nut sack [2955.98] Jack: and there you go yeah so he's he's been in stuff um [2960.3] Jack: um yeah what's your favorite you've got the plan yeah what's your what is your favorite thing [2967.18] Jack: right now you know your new toy something you're looking forward to you know what what can't you [2971.98] Jack: live without and uh but you've been testing bags and stuff like that haven't you like you know [2979.52] Skitzo Davis: uh no i've i've had that bag forever i just thought that my i thought my quad butt blades [2984.4] Skitzo Davis: look kind of cool uh in terms of i don't know man i can't really i can't really live without my [2990.8] Skitzo Davis: piano and can you play that is one of the thing what's that can you play any now uh no because my [3001.44] Skitzo Davis: piano is out of tune right now or i would um but the that's another i'd say my piano and uh [3010.64] Skitzo Davis: definitely my quad stuff like that's like therapy to me now you know yeah um but i am excited i think [3017.52] Skitzo Davis: i did mention i got the uh the new bl heli s uh eses and i'm gonna be i just got those in [3027.12] Skitzo Davis: and i'm gonna be doing a build tonight i might record it [3031.04] Jack: zmx speeds new motors who's your favorite pilot don't stop [3037.12] Jack: one [3040.56] Adam: my favorite pilot sorry just hurry up and say tone style really [3049.49] Skitzo: and uh where can people find your build of the bl heli s once you uh once you do that and get that [3056.85] Skitzo Davis: up somewhere where's it gonna be um my facebook probably my facebook page cool do you want to [3063.09] Skitzo Davis: say yeah yeah i'll probably post something up there on it you know i've been you know i don't [3071.01] Skitzo Davis: like being in front of the camera so i like to keep my ugly face out of the camera and i just [3075.01] Jack: like to fly so that's why i think it's okay what's that that's why you're not in any roto riot episodes [3082.85] Skitzo Davis: yeah i don't that's not a i'm not a big uh show you know look at me like look at me kind of guy [3088.93] Skitzo Davis: you know um so i but i but i do want to you know i've had so many questions on you know hey [3097.33] Skitzo Davis: post pictures of your build can you do a walkthrough on your build uh your tuning process and [3102.85] Skitzo Davis: and uh i kind of want to i also want to squash some beef with the whole kiss versus beta flight [3108.05] Skitzo Davis: thing you know because i fly them both and i love them both and it's the same thing with the qavr [3112.37] Skitzo Davis: and the alien they both have their pros and cons you know do you do any racing skits like what would [3117.65] Skitzo: you prefer for racing the kiss or uh like a dodo i don't know probably a dodo yeah same here all right [3126.13] Jack: good answer uh one last thing gmak said which made me laugh kiss marry avoid [3133.33] Jack: jad steal or sharpie wait kiss what now what was the kiss marry avoid so you got a kiss one which [3141.17] Skitzo: one would you kiss which one would you marry and which one would you avoid out of them three [3145.81] Skitzo Davis: god kiss marry and avoid is this like a normal question yeah yeah yeah it is over here yeah [3153.81] Skitzo Davis: for like 10 year olds yeah yeah normally it's well i think i would probably marry tommy [3163.01] Jack: because tommy is like yeah yeah he's not even in there it was sharp who oh sorry sorry my bad [3171.17] Skitzo Davis: i don't know you got a man crush yeah that's it i do i do have a man crush he's got yellow [3176.37] Skitzo Davis: fever i would definitely marry sharpie because that guy is like he's funny the coolest he is [3181.57] Skitzo Davis: the coolest most modest person you'll ever meet like just really down to earth um not saying that [3187.57] Skitzo Davis: the other guys aren't either he's just more so yeah um damn i don't know now i gotta i think you [3194.93] Skitzo Davis: got to avoid chad steal steals a cute little guy right yeah but what about the mustache hair [3201.25] Jack: you don't want to kissing that [3205.81] Skitzo Davis: all right here's another question i guess i guess it will be chad chad will be have to be the one [3210.13] Jack: yeah um okay what's the question uh oh god uh zm have you ever flown a true x pod style frame [3219.97] Skitzo Davis: from zac no no no well actually i you know i flew um i flew the uh the x hover x frame i guess [3229.25] Skitzo Davis: it's the bapu frame yeah i really wanted i flew i flew that once and had a lot had a blast with it [3235.41] Skitzo Davis: but um i have um but that's it just one flight you know one battery right um that's a good that's [3243.01] Skitzo Davis: a good little frame i also have the the new lumineer x frame too so oh man you need to [3249.97] Jack: please send us stuff you need to come back on yeah talk to us all about it yeah um okay also [3255.09] Jack: can you ask steel if he can accept my facebook request because we want him back on he was talking [3261.81] Jack: in the roto riot episode then chad talked loads i think he got bored or distracted you know you [3268.21] Jack: know what he's like oh yeah so ask him if you'd like an hour on here you know and drop me a message [3274.53] Jack: okay thanks man no worries and uh sharp who as well the little uh oh my god i mean i can't even [3281.57] Skitzo Davis: get a hold of that yeah i know so he's like an elusive person that's the leo says putting me [3287.89] Jack: off my english revision god damn you jack yep it's all my fault oh my god jack get one they rock [3296.21] Jack: it's a trap you don't have to do any revision when you've grown up yeah uh thank you so much [3301.01] Jack: for coming on here i hope you had a good time um yeah sorry about the connection problems and [3306.05] Jack: hopefully i i answered everything you're you're very much welcome to come back on uh we really [3312.69] Skitzo Davis: enjoyed having you and i know maybe after maybe after i do my whole bl hell yes eight kilohertz [3318.93] Jack: thing we can have a little chat about it i mean if you're if you're down with it um we're going [3323.41] Jack: to be chatting to white spy soon and uh tommy as well in about two weeks so nice if you're around [3331.81] Jack: on skype we'll drop your message and be like hey come on and have a chat i'll confess my [3337.01] Skitzo Davis: mancrest for tommy yeah totally yeah i'm gonna fly out to uk and fly with you guys yeah that [3342.13] Jack: would be an honor all right yep thank you guys have a good night thank you for tuning in or binding [3349.25] (Editor): let's drone out don't forget this podcast is sponsored by radio c number one for all your [3354.77] (Editor): drone related needs pay them a visit at radioc.co.uk and use the promo code ldo for five percent off [3361.17] (Editor): your order and free shipping on orders over 80 pounds telemetry lost