=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 46 ===
Title: Ep 46 - The only way is up
Recorded: 2016-07-14
Hosts: Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 1,781
Platforms: SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/276859000-letsdroneout-ep-46-the-only-way-is-up.mp3)
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The last out-of-order episode (hopefully)
Darkest before the dawn? Or the beginning of the end?
You decide...
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[0.62] Jack: Let's drone out
[4.02] Frank: This episode is sponsored by Radio C for all your drone related needs home of the drone labs batteries
[38.02] Jack: Apparently we are back. Yeah. Can you guys hear us voice of doom Chris?
[43.86] Jack: our two
[48.02] Jack: Live listeners, I know we need to
[51.06] Jack: We do we do need to sort this out. I have kind of dropped them
[55.22] Jack: But I don't know what's happened like for a while. We we had like loads of hosts and that Adams at a party in London
[65.14] Jack: He was a strange version of ill
[69.24] Jack: Yeah
[70.84] Jack: Issue is mainly a thought a faulty link or lack of isolation
[76.0] Jack: things to improve your video
[79.08] Jack: internally
[80.76] Jack: An LC filter which smooths the current down a giant cap across the PDB
[87.8] Jack: moving your VTX away from your ESCs
[91.48] Jack: using shielded cable
[94.24] Jack: also really helps
[96.56] Jack: Making sure you've got a good
[99.48] Jack: Good ground
[101.84] Jack: What other things can you do to fix your VTX?
[104.92] Frank: Well, definitely have more than on the Wi-Fi antennas on your ground station probably be a good start. Yeah
[115.12] Frank: Getting something that that matches the the frequency dead on because I believe Wi-Fi antennas are not exactly
[122.08] Frank: well my same
[124.6] Frank: Like the same frequency is the the frequency that we tune ours for so
[131.48] Frank: And apparently his are on the quads voice of doom has on the Wi-Fi antennas on his quads that could be very interesting
[138.48] Frank: I'm not entirely surprised that you would get some pretty poor video for that
[144.48] Frank: I've done it for testing before but I wouldn't fly on it
[148.52] Frank: personally
[150.32] Jack: What you up to the weekend?
[153.52] Frank: This weekends, yeah, I'm going to farm row as as we mentioned earlier
[160.88] Frank: But in a few weeks time what you do next weekend
[166.56] Frank: Yeah, so no idea but
[171.12] Frank: in a in two weeks time
[173.92] Frank: So the 30th and 31st, there is the Queen's Cup air race
[179.16] Frank: Which I mentioned before a few weeks ago, but for anyone who wasn't listening or has forgotten
[187.04] Frank: The Queen's Cup is a
[189.52] Frank: Challenge Cup given out to all sorts of different aviation sports. So a different one every time
[195.68] Frank: So it's either you know, it's being cross-country gliding or hot air ballooning racing or just all different air aviation
[203.84] Frank: sports
[205.88] Frank: Have a one go giving out the cup and this year it's been chosen that it's going to be given for FPV racing
[214.12] Frank: So this will be the only time you get to win the Queen's Cup for FPV racing
[219.16] Frank: so
[221.08] Frank: Sign up is open. We've posted that on our Facebook page today. So you can find us at
[228.36] Frank: Facebook page which is Facebook.com
[232.36] Frank: Slash let's try it out. Yep, just double checking
[236.56] Frank: And yeah, you can see the link to the sign up page for the Queen's Cup event
[242.44] Frank: Be very exciting
[246.72] Frank: Yeah
[251.35] Jack: Did you have to sign up first and pay for it and all that sorry have you had to sign up so it's it's
[257.99] Frank: I'm not I'm signed up to be helping out. So I'm not gonna be racing. I will be
[264.67] Frank: Making cups of tea or something. I don't know. I'll find out at some point
[269.63] Frank: But yeah, it's gonna be quite an interesting event to to have going on
[275.39] Frank: Yeah, sign up is 25 pounds. I believe
[279.29] Frank: It's I think it's the weekend. So it's a fair old July 30th from 8 a.m. To July the 31st at 5 p.m
[289.57] Frank: 25 pounds
[292.01] Frank: at Poppom Airfield
[294.41] Frank: Which is in Winchester?
[298.17] Frank: There you go
[299.57] Frank: some information there
[302.09] Frank: So there's gonna be two qualifying positions up for grabs for the world championships
[308.73] Frank: which is the Hawaii
[310.77] Frank: Events, so that will be another good reason to sign up as well as being, you know, very prestigious one
[319.05] Frank: Yeah, once in a lifetime chance to win the cup from the Royal Aero Club
[326.25] Frank: Mad
[329.25] Frank: Aren't we all? Yep
[331.57] Jack: That is that are some serious competitions
[335.25] Frank: very much so
[338.69] Frank: There's formula FPV coming up soon, isn't there? When's that? It's August sometime. Yeah, I mean the weather's been pretty awful for
[347.93] Frank: 19th 20th
[349.81] Frank: 21st I have in my calendar
[353.01] Frank: So that's the Friday as well
[355.85] Frank: So that could be another that was a big event last year wasn't I didn't get to go but sounds like a lot of people
[362.13] Frank: did go
[363.65] Frank: And it was big big event. You went didn't you? Yeah
[368.65] Jack: You're a bit more qualified than me to talk about it. Well, yeah, almost placed almost last. I
[375.17] Jack: Got around the track once
[378.29] Jack: Back with my old ZMR
[381.33] Jack: so
[382.61] Jack: Yeah, not not the not the best
[385.89] Jack: At all really so you're gonna have another go but with your alien this time. Yeah, totally my
[392.73] Jack: I
[394.13] Jack: Sorry, Joshua by the way, I was messaging me he's busy
[396.57] Jack: I was just like hey free do you want to come and chat to us and he's like, no
[401.41] Jack: Let's schedule a time. They'll have to do it again. Sure thing
[406.41] Jack: Joshua by the way, he's coming back on at some point because
[410.97] Jack: You know until until that episode comes out. I'm sorry to keep tormenting you. We're not some mad things
[417.93] Jack: Apparently the kissy I see breaking is second to none. So
[422.65] Jack: We've got loads of housekeeping to do as well
[425.49] Jack: Man, we got to go find some sponsors figure out what we're doing. I miss you. I can't believe how badly
[432.97] Jack: Let's turn out falls apart when you're not here
[437.89] Frank: Went away from the internet for a week and I've come back and it's just on fire. It's got awful. Everyone's dead
[446.44] Jack: No one's here. Well, I arranged I thought I thought it'd be alright
[449.88] Jack: I thought the other guys would would be here, you know
[453.08] Frank: I literally I literally just checked the player count of how many people are listening to us. It said minus two
[459.44] Frank: So I suspect I suspect people haven't found us very good
[464.76] Frank: No, not very popular if we've got minus two listeners. I don't how's that possible? I don't know
[470.76] Frank: I suspect that's not meant to happen
[473.2] Jack: That is horrific
[480.84] Jack: During a live show where nothing's happened and we've got nothing to talk about because everything's been covered
[485.92] Jack: I don't know why it's so quiet. It's weird. It's the summer
[489.6] Jack: It was just a weird week of in between
[493.76] Frank: Everyone is out flying. So they're not inside talking and building and
[499.52] Frank: Throwing things at each other
[501.24] Frank: So that's why it's gone a bit quiet
[503.88] Frank: We're all doing things in the winter when there's nothing to fly or there's terrible weather
[509.88] Frank: Everyone's just running training sessions and building stuff
[513.24] Frank: Then we'll be you know, have loads of things to come on the podcast
[518.8] Frank: But there's one thing that
[521.92] Frank: Might become a bit more popular after last week that I saw in France was um
[528.96] Frank: Cecily, you know Cecily I had a
[535.36] Frank: Devo
[536.56] Frank: 7 transmitter, so she didn't have a tyrannis. She had this
[543.28] Frank: Tyrannis like thing, but it was a lot smaller and
[547.48] Frank: People have been saying quite often that now and again that they would like a smaller transmitter and lo and behold there it is
[555.0] Frank: and the
[556.84] Frank: Devo, I believe has even got
[561.04] Frank: Extra F R sky things available to I think it's got F R sky telemetry in it or something that makes it even better
[569.8] Frank: So that might become you know, we might be spreading out beyond
[575.16] Frank: tyrannis I
[577.36] Jack: Can't get my tyrannis telemetry to work at all
[582.72] Jack: Whatsoever
[584.32] Jack: I've I've updated it. I've done everything. Nothing works properly
[589.52] Frank: What's the flight controller?
[594.12] Jack: Both I've got a kiss and
[597.44] Jack: Darren divine
[599.96] Jack: There's like a
[602.36] Jack: Listen every week to burn time at work. Apparently I'm listening all the way from the US. Oh, thank you
[608.4] Jack: I'm sorry. We can't be more
[611.76] Jack: Thank you. I'm sorry. Yeah, I am really sorry for this. It just doesn't work
[616.92] Jack: I flashed it to non EU because we've left the EU now
[621.24] Jack: Yes, so I've flashed the module put it on open TX it's done via a Mac
[627.04] Jack: I don't know why whether that's the reason it doesn't work
[633.36] Jack: Nothing works, you know the SWR value, you know, like the
[638.2] Jack: Yeah, yeah, yeah that doesn't work and that's like not even proper telemetry. That's like that's in the receiver
[645.96] Jack: Yeah, so that's not working
[647.88] Frank: Yeah, you've done something very bad to your receiver for it to give that wrong. In fact, isn't that not even in the
[654.96] Frank: Receiver is that even in the tyrannis itself? Yeah, that's what I mean. It's in the tarnis
[660.76] Frank: Yeah, so that's that's worrying, isn't it? Yeah
[665.76] Frank: You you want open TX who you must be you mustn't you yeah, yeah
[672.64] Jack: Mmm, what version of open TX to to eight one or something like that
[678.92] Frank: Okay
[680.6] Jack: The latest flashed it last night still doesn't work. I give my latest isn't necessarily better though, is it? I don't know
[688.64] Jack: Brad is Brad is one to us
[691.6] Jack: You know Brad Brad is one's been like dropped it's been on fire everything I
[697.72] Frank: Am not entirely surprised
[700.32] Jack: Yeah
[701.64] Jack: so
[702.84] Jack: We had an on
[705.8] Jack: For the TV show malarkey. Oh, yeah. Yeah, so I applied for that. That's been pretty funny. So I've got like a little
[715.28] Jack: Application video I might show you see what you think of that
[718.52] Jack: Personally for a laugh see what you think and then when you come on next week
[723.04] Jack: You can tell the listeners like how awful you found it
[729.0] Jack: Yeah, it's it's pretty it's it's pretty it's honest
[734.84] Jack: Alum, I'll give you that
[737.68] Jack: Okay, and then honesty is the best policy. Yeah, I might I might get you to edit it or someone to edit it down
[746.36] Jack: So that it can be like if you think it's good
[749.04] Jack: It might be my channel intro for people that haven't subscribed to me. I might just record another one
[756.2] Jack: Friday, it's my birthday next week. Happy birthday. Yeah
[761.52] Frank: Me unfortunately, I won't be because a bad friend just saying no
[768.2] Frank: Hey, I've taken days off with you before yeah, I know I'm joking
[773.16] Frank: It's just I have a limited number of days I can take off and
[778.24] Frank: Limited days I can take them off. So
[781.08] Frank: Unfortunately, I can't get there off work
[783.12] Frank: And if I can't get the day off work, then I won't be down there until it's dark. So
[788.0] Jack: That's not gonna happen. And the other side is you're not allowed a day off from next row now
[795.68] Jack: Fucking terrible
[798.52] Frank: Oh, well, we'll get back on it. We'll get the wheels turning crank back up to our full momentum
[805.36] Frank: We soaring through the air. It's energy management. I
[811.12] Jack: Have it having having a two-hour session I can't help I fly with spectrum still
[821.47] Jack: Yeah, have you having two hours with a spectrum scumbag
[826.67] Jack: doom
[828.75] Jack: I never never never have a problem. Some people do funny enough. Yeah. Yeah, there's been reports in the latest
[836.99] Frank: BMFA magazine, I believe of people having issues with spectrum transmitters
[842.71] Frank: I
[843.79] Frank: Sort of reports of scattered across the country some people having issues with radios
[848.45] Frank: But it seems to be more down to the flying fields than particular radio protocols
[854.55] Frank: So I suspect that's something else just with you know
[859.35] Frank: Really powerful Wi-Fi transmitters or 4g transmitters or something like that having issues
[866.35] Frank: Yeah, yours is definitely not that issue yours is something in the transmitter of SWR is coming back weird
[874.07] Jack: zero or
[876.35] Jack: No telemetry flashing at me
[879.51] Jack: Great maybe maybe it only works when it's connected to something my my other alien hasn't still still is
[887.39] Jack: bound to your transmitter
[891.55] Frank: Okay, I do have good news for you what the TSX 220
[896.91] Frank: Yeah, I I made into that I extreme made in that last week
[901.51] Frank: What do you mean by extreme a maiden an extreme maiden is?
[908.51] Frank: Down a narrow track in the middle of nowhere
[912.83] Frank: We'd gone on a bit of a trek from the car just three of us
[917.23] Frank: Just to go find some flying spots and my I had it back because we didn't know where we're gonna fly
[923.59] Frank: And I wanted to maiden it somewhere. I
[926.19] Frank: Was aiming to fly my ET 160 because that's my fairly reliable workhorse
[933.15] Frank: And then I grabbed that out and it just didn't want to work. I can't move what was wrong with it
[937.99] Frank: I haven't looked at it since so that tells you how the rest of it went but
[941.91] Frank: Yeah, so I put that down and went. Oh, well, you know, we've been I've been watching the other guys who up and down
[949.43] Frank: this
[950.47] Frank: Dirt track with like trees on both sides quite narrow and we're in the middle of it
[955.87] Frank: So, you know safety first again
[960.39] Frank: Well, I've got to fly this fun, you know is here
[964.35] Frank: It's the only thing I have that might fly so that was where I made and it was going
[969.83] Frank: pretty much
[971.15] Frank: Flat out down dirt track in the middle of France
[975.55] Frank: With people well to us to plus me standing there. It all works out fine. It's perfectly fine
[983.19] Jack: Jolly good. Yeah
[986.11] Frank: Yeah, it flies really nicely. I'm very happy with it
[988.95] Frank: I up the rates very slightly, but that was it and it's it's now I was just
[994.63] Frank: Hooning that around for the rest of the week. It's brilliant decision clean flight beta
[1002.87] Frank: Clean flight I think actually I didn't put Peter on it in the end. I think could be wrong the safe bet
[1009.79] Frank: Yeah
[1011.35] Frank: exactly
[1012.91] Jack: No, fair enough. I've I've I will I will send you
[1019.11] Jack: Pod over to help you because I know you'll be traveling to work and stuff and what I'll do is I'll send it over on
[1027.99] Jack: Thursday night
[1030.07] Jack: Thursday evening next week so that you can listen to my sounds all day on that Friday if you're really guilty
[1038.79] Jack: Yeah, yeah, and I'll send you pictures of an alien
[1043.95] Jack: Just that's how I'm gonna spend my day just annoying you yeah
[1049.35] Jack: Good I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I'll send that over and see what you see what you think
[1055.75] Jack: But yeah, I mean, there's the like you go away and everything changes like, you know, there's a bit of flight GUI
[1062.27] Jack: Dominic Clifton's probably not happy about that one. He's someone we need to talk about pretty much the same, isn't it? It just has
[1070.15] Frank: Yeah, GUI bits for yeah stuff that you would other otherwise
[1074.15] Frank: You know, it's got buttons for it basically that you would otherwise have to go into the command line and type lots of equals naught things
[1081.43] Jack: Yeah, and one
[1083.83] Frank: Yeah, so it's not a massive difference. I don't think it's not gonna be like
[1088.67] Frank: Making it incompatible with anything. I'm pretty sure probably the beta flight GUI probably be perfectly happy
[1096.91] Frank: Programming something on clean flight. It is it does work. I've done that. Yeah
[1102.23] Frank: Yeah, so it's just got a few extra buttons and some different pictures on it
[1107.23] Frank: So I can't imagine that it'd be too much the uproar
[1111.55] Frank: I guess, you know people couldn't be weird sometimes
[1117.59] Frank: Fine. Oh, I'm sure he's a perfectly reasonable guy. Have you um, no
[1121.83] Jack: It's wonderful. Um, have you have you done much 3d printing since you got back? Have you missed the smell of fruit filament? Oh
[1129.31] Frank: I don't deal with filament. I deal with powder. So they were
[1134.07] Jack: Haven't smelt much filament careful careful about saying that out loud on a radio
[1145.79] Frank: White powder, but I promise you it's nylon so you get customs checked
[1152.35] Frank: It does come from Germany. So it must be at some point
[1156.99] Frank: I'm not entirely sure how they
[1159.43] Frank: Convinced and yes, this is all nylon
[1162.31] Frank: But you know, I guess that flower and all the other sorts of powders must come through as well. But
[1169.59] Jack: Definitely not go game
[1172.27] Frank: Yeah
[1174.59] Frank: Anyway
[1176.51] Jack: No, not nothing very drony. Anyway, that's that was gonna be my next egg way Hannah was like filament
[1184.07] Jack: Did someone say filament?
[1185.99] Jack: Yep, oh
[1187.91] Jack: The lovely Hannah's on after us
[1189.91] Jack: So you got 10 more minutes of like listening to us ramble on about nothing. What else has happened since you've been alive
[1198.11] Jack: Do you know what I did actually do some research hang on this is my research I went to like news FPV
[1203.91] Jack: Right, which is one of my go-to places, right? And there's the meet the hover camera drone
[1209.91] Jack: and then there's something that we don't want to talk about drone falls on women's head at 5k event in Quebec and
[1218.19] Jack: This is how stupid people are using poor birds to catch drones. I was like, that's a bit old
[1224.47] Jack: Bani won the god. What was it now?
[1229.55] Jack: Steel's done stills done a load of
[1231.89] Jack: Hang on, let me just go back to YouTube. Is it the dr1?
[1238.53] Jack: Yeah event. Oh, yeah, of course anyone that so I've done some research but it's like it like I
[1245.65] Jack: Was like a big event in in America guess who won it, you know, the seven-year-old, you know
[1252.49] Jack: Like there's no news at all. There's nothing at all
[1256.09] Jack: I can I I could I could tell you more about the technologies of grip tape
[1261.89] Jack: in
[1264.17] Jack: You know, I just rather this is this the really military grade velcro, yeah
[1271.21] Jack: Celery FPV race at dr1 and the speech so you can listen to that if you want on mr. Steel
[1278.57] Jack: There's loads of tiny whoop action going on
[1282.13] Frank: Tiny whoops are goods. We're flying those up. We managed to
[1287.15] Frank: A
[1287.83] Frank: Timor and Bradley last week were flying them up. I mean, this is a an old old house in middle of France
[1295.67] Frank: It's got walls made of rock about
[1299.43] Frank: Good three feet thick. I'm sure is in you know, that's the sort of level of
[1306.07] Frank: FPV
[1308.31] Frank: You know
[1309.43] Frank: Barriers there are in this building and they managed to fly up three floors and just fly around a lot
[1315.43] Frank: There was nothing there
[1316.99] Frank: That's crazy. It was pretty impressive
[1320.47] Jack: Darren Givards cat is broken. Apparently if you'd like to send it into
[1326.39] Jack: Radio C or a drone doctor. We'll have a look at it
[1332.19] Jack: Yeah, and
[1333.71] Jack: Stone blue airlines are on about hosting a drone race somewhere. So that's that's sort of interesting
[1340.39] Frank: And there's obviously flight fest is going. Yeah going on
[1345.91] Frank: At the moment
[1347.91] Jack: David Vindestal we can talk about this as well. David would stall at
[1353.07] Jack: Ask the Explorer dot SE
[1355.63] Jack: He has
[1357.79] Jack: These now had the out of office limited support
[1361.75] Jack: So he's now got tickets that you can if you've got any problems
[1365.03] Jack: He'll get back to you on that. He's got loads of questions and that
[1368.43] Jack: And there's a frequently asked thing and he's released a photo of
[1373.35] Jack: the new
[1376.07] Jack: Tri-copter
[1377.67] Jack: Let's face it. It is a Tri-copter
[1380.27] Frank: We might know what it is. Yeah, he did show us a few new pictures
[1387.23] Frank: I'm I am desperate for this to be released properly. I want to buy one. Yeah now, please David if you're listening
[1394.83] Jack: Yeah, yeah, I know so it's money to throw at you
[1399.75] Jack: You know, this is very very roomery. It's got a triumph
[1404.35] Jack: Video antenna on it doom. So you might want to have a look at that. Yeah, and it looks like a mini
[1410.91] Jack: Tri-copter that's all I can say
[1412.91] Jack: That's yeah, even more minia than the racing Tri-copter
[1417.59] Frank: also the
[1418.91] Frank: You know, you can look at the URL of this and maybe get a bit more information
[1424.11] Frank: Is the URL of the image itself on his latest blog post has some information in there that I will let
[1431.59] Frank: Listeners go and find for themselves
[1435.11] Jack: But I'm pretty sure I see holes on the top plate front the triumph
[1442.11] Jack: Gopo sized on the run cam is it f3?
[1447.91] Jack: Amazing eye you can get an f3 on that one
[1451.43] Jack: Too small to have the f3 on there
[1455.96] Jack: getting excited
[1459.34] Jack: Yes, definitely. Yeah, so
[1462.38] Jack: Yeah
[1465.57] Jack: Definitely looking forward to that. No features the trusted unbreakable tilt mechanism. It's a new low-profile
[1472.81] Jack: artist you to oh five motors
[1477.21] Frank: Have you seen I don't know whether they're new to everyone else or just to me, but I saw popping up somewhere
[1485.73] Frank: Motors with instead of cables coming out of them motor solder tabs on the side. Yeah, that was that was a while ago
[1493.09] Frank: Was it? There you go. Show us how up with I am. Yeah
[1498.05] Jack: That was I first saw that with the motors with the built-in ESCs
[1504.65] Frank: Well, that's what I was thinking is that then you could because there also have been some ESCs I should write these things down but
[1513.77] Frank: Some other ESCs that came a day or two later up in my various
[1519.09] Frank: social media feeds that
[1522.05] Frank: Also has tabs so there's just tabs on ESCs and tabs on motors
[1526.33] Frank: I'm hoping that they kind of align so he could get them both and just solder them directly to each other without any cables in
[1532.93] Frank: between I don't know if that's just me trying to
[1537.53] Jack: Get rid of cables. I sort of USB socket where he just
[1543.53] Jack: Why stop why not I know one day that will be a thing
[1547.61] Jack: You know, I throw away joke and you'll be waving in my face being like our episode 48. You're a dickhead. I
[1555.57] Frank: Mean it's a bit like the X what they called MT 30s
[1563.49] Frank: What frame is that
[1565.77] Frank: With the arms and the MT 30 connectors where it's just got the three the three pin connectors the you you're on about me
[1574.45] Jack: a
[1576.45] Jack: TBS vendetta
[1578.21] Jack: Is that right? That's the one. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I
[1583.33] Jack: Want to know why the motors are different because apparently they're 2300
[1588.77] Jack: KV cover boaters with the cw cw written on them. I've got no idea what you know
[1595.49] Jack: It's like clockwise. I don't know. Apparently the motors are different
[1601.64] Jack: Mmm, I know
[1603.52] Jack: As if there's like counterclockwise or something. I don't know well, it's cuz if you've got the thread on them, I guess
[1609.4] Frank: Yeah, it's not a standard thread. So I don't know apparently maybe if the manufacturers make both
[1615.0] Frank: versions and they just sell some I don't know
[1618.92] Jack: well, I want to know as well is like how I
[1622.32] Jack: Think the magnets are different in the Cobra motors, you know, the the
[1627.76] Jack: 1960 KV motors and the 2300 motors, I think it's the same windings and then they put a
[1634.76] Jack: Washer on them to stack them up and then they put a different bell on it. Sorry as I can tell
[1643.56] Jack: Well knows I'd like to I miss Cobra motors
[1646.84] Jack: Everyone's like using different stuff and I do like the sound of the new DYS motors, apparently
[1653.0] Jack: So in what way like the physical sound of the noise they make or yep
[1658.88] Jack: Physical noise that the the metal is not made out of cheese and they're a hollow shaft
[1664.0] Jack: So ready to fly quads
[1667.0] Jack: You know hollow shaft way of the future my friend
[1671.2] Frank: Why is a hollow for shaft good?
[1673.88] Frank: Or is that a stupid first? Well
[1677.04] Jack: In theory stronger
[1679.48] Jack: You know
[1681.6] Frank: Yeah, hollow shaft
[1685.08] Jack: Why would it be stronger? Well, just it's less prone to bending
[1690.44] Frank: If you think about it, that makes no sense
[1693.92] Frank: Why why would it be less prone to bending if you drill out in the middle?
[1698.76] Jack: Because it's a tube
[1700.52] Jack: You know, like if you dent the side of it, it will bend very easily. You know, it'll fold in on itself
[1706.4] Frank: Rather than you know, like you have a tuba steel and you have a rudder steel. Yeah, the tubes gonna be
[1716.12] Jack: If you focus that badly but like, you know square on the impacts it's lighter as well
[1723.16] Frank: Okay, that makes more sense. Yeah
[1726.36] Jack: like
[1728.08] Jack: I mean, you know, it's a big wide open tube, you know
[1732.42] Jack: It's less less of these like, you know compared to those thin, you know, like a cobra shaft
[1738.42] Jack: You know where it's a small all-in-one thick, you know kind of prone to bending. Yep, and they're lighter
[1745.86] Jack: So, you know and the metal of them is not made of cheese. So
[1751.38] Frank: It's got holes in the middle. Yeah, so
[1753.98] Frank: It is made of cheese in a Swiss cheese. No, so we let Hannah on
[1758.86] Frank: Yes, Hannah has all her notes already she's doing a lot better than us she's going to be talking about
[1765.58] Frank: metal printing on your desktop, so
[1768.62] Frank: We could print some motor bells maybe
[1773.38] Jack: Hannah you're a goddess. Please take the show. She'll probably be a lot more interesting than we'd be
[1780.26] Jack: No, it's thank you. You've been listening to
[1783.94] Jack: Let's show ning on
[1786.62] Frank: And let's do the journey
[1788.62] Jack: Yeah, and we'll be better we're gonna we're gonna do some housekeeping now for half an hour
[1793.42] Jack: Yeah, we'll be a lot better. All right. Thank you guys. Take care. Bye
[1797.54] Jack: Good. Happy flying
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