=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 53 === Title: Ep53 - Happy Birthday Hangout Recorded: 2016-09-01 Hosts: Jae "Chipko", Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 1,844 Platforms: SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/281616134-letsdroneout-ep53-happy-birthday-hangout.mp3) ==================================== Jack, Jae, and occasionally Tony host the first show of the second year of LDO, just before the inaugural LDO Drone Games! Mentioned videos are; https://youtu.be/SyXRylYbXkU?t=1m https://youtu.be/v5aMT9MBfZI?t=27s [0.66] Jack: Let's drone out. [2.66] Jack: If you're wondering what I'm up to, [10.26] Jack: I've made it to Shafu status, and my buttons on my Taranis have sunk in and broken. [19.26] Jack: So my Taranis no longer works, which really does such. [26.26] Jae: Ouch. So what are you going to be doing for this weekend? [29.26] Jae: Because it is the Let's Drone Out Games where we're actually going to be... [33.26] Jae: If we can get some live chat on here, we are looking for different games to play. [36.26] Jae: So someone came up today. [39.26] Jae: Are you going to be able to fly any of these? [41.26] Jae: Yeah, yeah, it was a 250 size quad beer lift competition, [47.26] Jae: and the winner has to drink the beer. [49.26] Jae: So in other words, whoever's winning different things, [51.26] Jae: everyone's going to win different events because people are going to start getting drunk. [54.26] Jae: Don't fly drunk, people. It's not fun. [56.26] Jae: And avoid your insurance. [59.26] Jae: But yeah, there's some other ones like trying to cut a weight off of a quad. [64.26] Jae: So you've got to try and lose a cargo. That was a good one. [68.26] Jae: Yeah, there's some interesting ideas. I think there's an egg and drain race. [71.26] Jae: There's some others in there, limbo and all sorts. [73.26] Jae: So we're open to suggestions. [76.26] Jae: The trouble with me is I've not had a weekend at home where I can rest and relax. [79.26] Jae: So I've been waking up in Hidden Valley in the back of a car and in a tent. [85.26] Jae: And I've been all over and trying to find new flying spots around a new city. [90.26] Jae: It's pretty bad. [91.26] Jae: Quite interesting. [92.26] Jae: You know, we've had a whole year on the air and I haven't made everyone. [95.26] Jae: You've made most of them. [96.26] Jae: Pretty much 99.9% of them, I think. [98.26] Jae: Yeah. [99.26] Jae: Yeah, it's weird how it's a year on and how much has changed in the hobby, the industry. [106.26] Jae: We've had people come and go every time. [109.26] Jae: An adventurous person. [110.26] Jae: And thank you to all the listeners because that's who's making it work. [114.26] Jae: The very sponsors as well, I suppose. [116.26] Jack: And sponsors, yep. [118.26] Jae: Yeah, yeah. [119.26] Jack: Gotta remember, those guys, you know, helped us. [123.26] Jack: Yeah. [124.26] Jack: You know, paid our way for us to bring a show on. [128.26] Jae: I suppose it's not just us talking, is it? [130.26] Jae: There's editors. [131.26] Jae: There's a lot of people involved in some way or another over time. [134.26] Jae: Even the platform to run it on and carry on with SharpStream and stuff like that. [139.26] Jae: It's a journey through many people to make this happen. [143.26] Jae: Brett, you, largely Jack. [147.26] Jack: Now my Google Hangouts chat message thing to Tony is no longer working. [154.26] Jack: Like, I literally give up. [156.26] Jack: I don't have another way of sending Tony a message. [161.26] Jae: Oh, hold on a second. [162.26] Jae: We have Tony on the line, I believe. [165.26] Jae: Tony. [166.26] Jae: I am here, you idiot. [167.26] Jae: There we go. [168.26] Jack: Oh my god, I got Tony to use technology. [172.26] Jae: Team V is still back, at least in full capacity. [176.26] Tony: Still, what the hell is going on? [179.26] Tony: Am I recording? [180.26] Tony: Should I record myself? [181.26] Tony: You don't have to. [182.26] Jack: It's full recording on YouTube. [185.26] Jae: To be honest, we just thought, this is a different thing when you're on. [189.26] Jae: We'll try something different for our birthday. [191.26] Jae: Yeah. [192.26] Tony: Is that what we're doing? [194.26] Tony: Yeah. [195.26] Jae: We're trying not to get everything working on time and stuff, but that's how we've always [199.26] Jack: done it. [200.26] Jack: I don't think he doesn't love us anymore and doesn't trust me with the login. [205.26] Jae: He does, because we've had changes. [210.26] Jae: We've had changes. [212.26] Tony: I think it's the goddamn trains again, isn't it? [217.26] Jae: Well, he was affected by Thameslink, the other train operator to cause issues. [224.26] Jack: Oh, are available. [227.26] Jae: Yeah. [228.26] Tony: Have we started properly then, or not? [231.26] Jae: Kind of, yeah. [232.26] Jae: We had an intro, yeah. [234.26] Jae: You were a large copy of conversation at Tony, because, interestingly enough, this is how [238.26] Jae: it all started, if you've not heard from the start. [241.26] Jae: Jack, myself and Tony were down at Jack's, where you're seeing the video from, and we [245.26] Jae: all sat around with some microphones and recorded our first show. [248.26] Jae: That was the night I was going back on the train at 3am after leaving Brighton at midnight, [254.26] Jae: flying a drone on the train. [256.26] Jae: I'm not sure if we're allowed to. [257.26] Jae: There was no sign saying I couldn't fly it whilst the train was travelling at 70 miles [261.26] Jae: an hour. [262.26] Jae: 80 miles an hour. [263.26] Jae: And it was dead. [264.26] Jae: There was nobody in there. [265.26] Jae: I thought, why not? [266.26] Jae: Yeah. [267.26] Jae: I like what you're trying to figure out, how many laws... [271.26] Jae: Well, I was seeing it relatively. [273.26] Jae: I've flown it at 70 miles an hour on a 3-cell battery, because it was only 3-cell at the [277.26] Jae: time, which is pretty impressive. [279.26] Tony: So you were flying in the train? [283.26] Jae: Yeah. [284.26] Jae: Well, I had all my stuff coming down for the show. [286.26] Jae: It was definitely down there. [287.26] Jae: And on the way back, I thought, after recording the first step on this drone now, I've got [290.26] Jae: to fly. [291.26] Jae: There was nowhere else to do it. [292.26] Jae: It was empty. [293.26] Jae: There was someone snoring all the way down. [294.26] Jae: I didn't fly it down the passenger or anything. [296.26] Jae: I just hovered it from one table to another next to me. [299.26] Jae: But, I mean, it was travelling at whatever speed the train was, so technically it was [303.26] Jae: flying that fast. [304.26] Jae: But it wasn't. [305.26] Jae: So I was bored. [306.26] Jae: I'd already had three hours on the way down. [308.26] Jae: My laptop died on the way down, so I couldn't play a sim on the way back. [311.26] Jae: So what else would I like to do? [313.26] Jae: You've got to fly wherever. [315.26] Jae: But I checked for signs on the side of the train. [319.26] Jae: It's not going to the current UK regulations because it's CIA. [323.26] Jae: It was indoors. [325.26] Jae: So, yeah. [327.26] Jae: I checked. [328.26] Tony: So is it travelling 70 miles an hour relative to you or relative to someone outside? [334.26] Tony: To you, isn't it? [335.26] Jae: Somebody outside. [336.26] Jae: No. [337.26] Jae: To me, it's not. [338.26] Tony: No, yes. [339.26] Tony: To you. [340.26] Tony: It's horrifying, isn't it? [342.26] Jae: Maybe someone should try to do one of the mag trains, the high speed trains, and brake [346.26] Jae: the... [347.26] Jae: It's pointless. [348.26] Jae: Don't bother. [349.26] Tony: No, because you could theoretically bike a drone's speed record by going on a fast train, [359.26] Tony: hovering it, and that means you're actually flying... [362.26] Tony: But, you know... [363.26] Tony: I don't know. [364.26] Tony: What is the top speed of a drone? [365.26] Tony: I've seen 106 mile an hour, I think. [368.26] Jae: Which is what? [369.26] Jae: 250 kilometers or something. [371.26] Jae: Yeah, 150. [373.26] Tony: So what's the high speed train go at? [376.26] Jae: 400 kilometers. [377.26] Jae: I don't know. [378.26] Jae: You can get a stupidly fast one, but at least 200 kilometers an hour. [382.26] Jae: So at least 100, 200. [384.26] Jae: Yeah, probably at least 150 miles an hour. [388.93] Jack: I think some of the first ones... [390.93] Jae: Brilliant train. [391.93] Jae: I'm no trainsporter, but I think the fastest is like 860 kilometers per hour, a Japanese [398.93] Jae: one or something. [400.93] Jae: But let's face it, you're not. [402.93] Jae: You're hovering. [403.93] Jae: You're only hovering, Tony. [404.93] Jae: You can only get around it by saying, well, relatively, it's flying fast. [408.93] Tony: Yeah, but we could brake... [410.93] Tony: We could brake the speed. [412.93] Jae: Brake some laws, probably. [416.93] Jae: Let's brake some laws. [418.93] Jack: This weekend, Tony attaches a rocket to his drone. [422.93] Jack: Yeah. [423.93] Jack: Yeah, that would work. [425.93] Jack: Invite the Guinness World Records down. [428.93] Jack: Let's see how many laws he's broken. [432.93] Jae: You can actually buy rocket planes and fire a rocket on a plane. [441.93] Jae: They've actually been available quite some time. [444.93] Jae: So you could theoretically just get in a hover, put a load of rockets on one side. [448.93] Jae: As long as you can maintain your pitch and stuff, you'd probably be able to fly it fast, [455.93] Jae: forward. [457.93] Jae: Excellent. [461.3] Tony: So what are you doing with your trainer so I can see you doing stuff there, do you? [465.3] Jack: Oh, my buttons broke. [467.3] Jack: You know, like on the... [469.3] Tony: Oh, what, they pushed through? [471.3] Jack: Yeah, mine finally pushed through. [473.3] Jack: Like Carlos. [475.3] Tony: Yeah, mine's done it as well. [477.3] Tony: Brad has done it. [478.3] Tony: Brad has used to use a lighter. [480.3] Tony: He used to stick his light, you know, take the lighter off and then stick the... [485.3] Jae: Tony, could you like dress up a bit more for the birthday bash? [488.3] Jae: Did you think a tank top was appropriate? [492.3] Tony: A tank top is a mess. [496.3] Jack: I don't know which is worse. [498.3] Tony: A tank top. [500.3] Jack: It's hot. [501.3] Jack: It's hot. [502.3] Jack: It's not aware on the weekend. [505.3] Tony: It's hot, you homos. [507.3] Tony: I thought you'd like it. [509.3] Jae: But you're just the other one showing the skin. [512.3] Tony: Well, I've just done it for Jack. [514.3] Jack: No, right. [516.3] Jack: Jack, are you impressed? [518.3] Jack: Yep. [519.3] Jack: And slightly aroused. [522.3] Jack: Oh, shit. [524.3] Jack: So Jack's been... [526.3] Jack: My antenna or my Taranis has all of a sudden gone very erect. [530.3] Jack: RSSI critical. [534.55] Jae: As the golden rule happens, I cannot just take one quad to the hidden valley. [538.55] Jae: So I really have another one to fix tonight, but I'm not going to do it live on there. [542.55] Jae: Oh, Tony's lying down now. Excellent. [544.55] Jae: Oh, look at that. [546.55] Tony: You're freaking out, lad. [549.55] Jae: It's too hot for you, baby. [551.55] Tony: We've got any numbers who are coming the weekend. [554.55] Tony: I see the weather's not going to be too brilliant. [557.55] Jae: No, it's going to be fine. [559.55] Jae: I've got my sunshine machine ready to go. [562.55] Tony: Long time. [564.55] Tony: I don't want there to be any wind, because I want to fly my wing again. [569.55] Jae: You mean you want to float your wing? [571.55] Tony: Well, yeah. [573.55] Tony: I liked climbing up and then just cutting the power and just cruising around. [577.55] Jae: Is that your first ever plane, fixed wing? [580.55] Tony: That's my first ever fly of one, yeah. [583.55] Jack: No, you own a plane and you gave it to Dan. [588.55] Jack: Oh, you're not flying it. [590.55] Jack: You don't fly it. [592.55] Tony: I've got given it and then I give it away to Dan. [594.55] Jae: You never flew it. [595.55] Tony: No. [596.55] Jae: You never flew it. [597.55] Jae: So this is the first fixed wing aircraft, whether it's a wing or plane, you've flown. [602.55] Jae: Wow. [603.55] Jae: Yeah. [604.55] Jae: So it's the first time you've probably done line of sight as well for a display this year, [607.55] Jae: fixed wing. [608.55] Jae: It's a year of trying new things for your tone. [610.55] Tony: It is, isn't it? [611.55] Tony: Yeah. [612.55] Tony: Especially the line of sight stuff, yeah. [617.55] Jae: You know what, though? [618.55] Jae: I've never flown a wing. [619.55] Jae: I've got a few planes. [620.55] Jae: I might bring one down, but I've never flown a wing, so I might fly yours. [624.55] Jae: That's cool. [625.55] Tony: Yeah, bring it down. [626.55] Tony: I mean, it's 6.4 mile an hour winds on Saturday. [631.55] Jae: Yeah, but that's fine for quads, you know, and a wing, because, you know, like, light [636.55] Jae: planes will get blown around, but Dom and I flew on the summer party barbecue for the [645.55] Jae: Thursday night show. [647.55] Jae: And it was 40 mile an hour winds and gusts, you know, that torrential weekends a couple [651.55] Jae: of weekends ago. [652.55] Jae: And you don't notice it with a fast quad, really. [656.55] Jae: No. [657.55] Jae: Yeah, you use it faster one way than the other, but it's totally flyable. [661.55] Tony: You just up your eye, don't you, if you get a bit of wind, and that holds the correct [666.55] Tony: pitch of the quad. [669.55] Jae: I don't know. [670.55] Jae: You fly as you're just flying for, I don't know, maybe if you take it to the nth degree, [678.55] Jae: but just to have a fly, it doesn't make that much of a difference. [681.55] Jae: It's over the fear factor of wind, I think. [684.55] UNKNOWN: It's fine. [685.55] Jae: So, how, I'm sharing a phantom in which case there is a limit. [689.55] Tony: Yeah. [690.55] Tony: And it was back to me. [691.55] Tony: I have flown in 15 mile an hour winds with my phantom, and it was like, just hovering, [695.55] Tony: it was like that. [697.55] Jae: There was a couple of points with the phantom when I was flying that gusty weekend, and [702.55] Jae: it wouldn't come forward unless I whacked it into sports mode, and it could go that [706.55] Jae: little bit faster and drop down. [708.55] Jae: But yeah, they have more of a limit. [710.55] Jae: If you can fly something at 60 miles an hour, 40 mile an hour winds just means you go there [714.55] Jae: a little bit slowly away, or even faster one way. [718.55] Jae: So, it's fun. [719.55] Jae: I don't care if this weekend's windy. [721.55] Jae: I hope it's just dry. [723.55] Tony: I do, because I want to fly my wing, Jay. [726.55] Jae: Does not revolve around you in your vest, Tony. [730.55] Tony: Why not? [734.55] Tony: Vest is better than what you called it earlier. [737.55] Jack: I'm going to go through all the names. [739.55] Jack: That's just the second one. [740.55] Jack: Let's look up some more. [741.55] Jack: What is it? [742.55] Jack: Tank top, strappy top, booboo. [745.55] Tony: I'm at home, keenly now. [748.55] Tony: I didn't think I was going to be on video doing whatever we do. [754.55] Jae: Okay, if you want to take a five second break, don't speak anything. [757.55] Jae: We'll go back to Jack, and we'll come back to you wearing something else. [759.55] Jae: Quick change. [760.55] Jae: Come on, for the birthday bash. [761.55] Jae: Off you go. [762.55] Jae: Come on. [763.55] Jae: Get your nipples down. [764.55] Jae: Come on. [765.55] Jae: He's off. [766.55] Jae: He has gone. [767.55] Jae: Get your party. [769.55] Jack: Oh, there's a hat. [771.55] Jae: There's a hat. [773.55] Jack: Get your little rotor eye shirt. [777.55] Jae: Since you were complaining so much while I was trying to set up, every 15 minutes you [782.55] Jae: have to go do something different than your own video. [786.55] Tony: Let's say what Jay Chico is wearing. [790.55] Tony: You can't. [791.55] Jae: I ain't got no camera. [793.55] Jae: If I know we're doing this, I'm going to charge up the laptop. [797.55] Jae: I'm actually in a shirt. [799.55] Jae: I've got back from work. [800.55] Jae: A shirt and a house, actually. [802.55] Jack: Who burned this? [805.55] Jack: That looks sack. [807.55] Tony: What are you doing to fix your tranis in case anyone else has got the same problem? [813.55] Jack: I used a bit of CI. [816.55] Tony: Obviously taking it apart. [817.55] Jack: I've used a bit of CI, which is probably not the best thing to do. [822.55] Jack: Because the fumes could fog the plastic screen. [829.55] Jack: But CI, but I do believe Joshua Bardwell, the lovely man, I think he fixed his tranis [838.55] Jack: in that way. [839.55] Jack: And it's only a small little dot of glue. [842.55] Jack: There's like a little... [845.55] Jack: Did any of you play like Warhammer and stuff? [851.55] Jack: No. [852.55] Jack: Sorry, Jack. [853.55] Tony: You're on your own there, mate. [855.55] Jack: I was tempted a few times, but I'm so glad I didn't. [858.55] Jack: Is it spool? [859.55] Jack: Is that what they call it? [860.55] Jack: You know, like... [861.55] Jack: You're asking somebody else to look at it. [863.55] Jack: You know that you clip off that holds everything together? [866.55] Jack: Ah, ethics. [868.55] Jack: Spool? [869.55] Jack: Is that it? [870.55] Jae: Ah, sparring. [873.55] Jae: You mean when you break off bits off a spar? [877.55] Jae: A plastic spar? [878.55] Jack: Is it a spar? [879.55] Jack: It's a spar. [880.55] Jack: Okay. [881.55] Jack: Yeah. [882.55] Jack: It's kind of like that, that holds all the three buttons together. [886.55] Jack: Oh! [887.55] Jack: Oh, right. [888.55] Jack: I don't know. [889.55] Jack: I don't know. [890.55] Jack: There must be some sort of technical term for it. [893.55] Jack: But I just put a little dab of CA on there. [898.55] Jae: You know, speaking of transmitters... [901.55] Jae: Speaking of transmitters, I actually read some interesting input news this week. [907.55] Jae: Yep. [908.55] Jae: Because obviously I had a problem with a spectrum radio. [911.55] Jae: You send it off even five years down the line. [913.55] Jae: I think I've had a radio for eight years. [914.55] Jae: I'm going to send it to them. [915.55] Jae: They'll fix it free of charge. [916.55] Jae: So they would fix it. [918.55] Jae: Yeah. [919.55] Jae: They finally brought the cost of their receivers down, [922.55] Jae: of the diversity quad band, or the diversity race receiver, [927.55] Jae: which is like a satellite receiver, has an auto bind, [930.55] Jae: so you don't need to bind it through another receiver. [933.55] Jae: They've brought it down to $25, finally. [937.55] Jae: Whereas in the UK, they'd cost $46 per receiver. [940.55] Jae: And that was always one of the appealing things of going for a Taranis, [944.55] Jae: because the receivers are much cheaper going down that route. [946.55] Jae: If you can get hold of any. [949.55] Jae: Well, yeah. [950.55] Jae: But half price, essentially, now for life. [953.55] Jae: So it's just going to take probably a bit of time before the UK suppliers [956.55] Jae: sell their stock at the extortionate rate before we start seeing a savings. [960.55] Jack: Tony. [961.55] Jack: Yes. [962.55] Jack: Can you guess what this is? [966.55] Tony: I can't see it. [967.55] Tony: Hold on. [968.55] Tony: Let me see if I can make you bigger. [971.55] Jack: Can I give an answer? [973.55] Jack: Yeah, you can. [974.55] Jack: Triumph. [975.55] Jack: Oh, yeah. [977.55] Jack: Do I win it now? [978.55] Jack: This is a... [979.55] Jack: Excellent. [980.55] Jack: Oh, damn. [982.55] Jack: It was a birthday present from my friend Simon. [987.55] Jack: Oh, that is awesome. [989.55] Jack: So, Tony, you flow with these. [992.55] Tony: Yeah, I do. [993.55] Jack: They're good. [994.55] Jack: Hold on. [995.55] Jack: I've got mine here. [996.55] Jae: I'll hold it up in birthday. [998.55] Jae: Are they any good? [999.55] Tony: Why are we getting our triumphs out? [1002.55] Jae: Okay. [1003.55] Jae: Okay. [1004.55] Jae: Jack, I swapped with them recently, and I've never looked back. [1007.55] Jae: They're tough on crashes, which is good, although it depends on your crash. [1012.55] Jae: And, yeah, I've found that they work pretty rough-sided. [1015.55] Jae: Whereas, I know some others do, like, the anim ways were pretty damn good as well. [1019.55] Jae: I just like the... [1020.55] Jae: Oh, my... [1021.55] Jae: Right, okay. [1022.55] Jae: I like this just for the more durability of it. [1025.55] Jae: And yet, many people I know that have broken them, but it's been good for me. [1029.55] Tony: And they're light. [1030.55] Tony: I mean, to me, they last about two months, and then I have to replace them. [1035.55] Jack: Two months is pretty good for you, man. [1038.55] Jack: Yeah, is that... [1039.55] Jack: Two months for any engine is pretty good. [1041.55] Tony: Yeah, that's... [1042.55] Tony: I think they're good. [1044.55] Jack: I think... [1045.55] Jack: Yeah. [1046.55] Jack: I think the only thing I know that you've made last for two months is because you've [1053.55] Jack: lost it down the sofa or something, really. [1058.55] Jack: Wow. [1060.9] Jae: It's kind of weird how we've all just come back to this episode. [1064.9] Jae: So we have... [1065.9] Jae: You know, like, we would have had Frank on, and possibly somebody else to say, but... [1071.9] Jae: Well, thanks to the infrastructure in the UK at the present time, you can never... [1075.9] Jae: Which means it is back to the original three. [1078.9] Jack: Yeah. [1079.9] Jack: Frank's got no way of joining in, apparently. [1081.9] Jack: He can't even get on to, you know, like, the lowest bandwidth, the video on YouTube. [1090.9] Jack: Like, what is it? [1092.9] Jack: 144p, I think. [1095.9] Jack: And he said, like, you can't even watch that without it, like, stuttering and jumping. [1099.9] Jack: Does that have to be a fault? [1101.9] Jack: No chance. [1102.9] Jack: Do you want to do some quad news, then, seeing as... [1105.9] Jack: As we're going through, have you got some? [1108.9] Jack: I can find mine. [1110.9] Jack: I feel bad, because I'm literally stealing it probably from Frank, who has done all the [1117.9] Jack: hard work. [1118.9] Jae: I'm sure he would like us to carry on that flag of let's turn out. [1121.9] Jae: So thank you, Frank, for doing the hard work. [1124.9] Jack: That's it. [1128.66] Jack: People... [1130.66] Jack: What is it? [1131.66] Jack: 13... [1132.66] Jack: I think last time I checked, it was like... [1137.35] Jack: What was it? [1138.35] Jack: I went in and chatted to Frank, and he said, like, 14 tickets have sold or something. [1143.35] Jae: That's pretty good. [1144.35] Jae: I mean, I've been selling it up this way, and I'm hoping to get some flyers like Bruno [1148.35] Jae: down. [1149.35] Jae: Yeah. [1150.35] Jae: And Neo, if he can make it, Neo NJ Tech. [1153.35] Jae: That would be nice to have him on. [1155.35] Jae: I got on with him. [1156.35] Jae: Well, we were down for Clinton's birthday bash. [1160.35] Jae: Clinton's, hopefully, can make it down. [1162.35] Jae: But, yeah, it's going to be... [1165.35] Jae: I think... [1166.35] Jae: Ticket sales, I think it still needs to be checked on tickets. [1169.35] Jae: That's the thing. [1170.35] Jae: People might not book tickets, but no one will pay into it. [1172.35] Jae: It's such a cheap weekend. [1174.35] Jae: Yeah. [1175.35] Tony: Most people would show up. [1178.35] Tony: Why is that chat? [1179.35] Jae: Because we need to post the link. [1181.35] Jae: Take out money. [1182.35] Jae: Yeah. [1183.35] Jae: Actually, I mean, Hidden Valley's good that you can book out frequencies. [1186.35] Jae: So for the event that's running this weekend, it's good that we can do that. [1190.35] Jae: But there is a cost that are covered for that and stuff. [1193.35] Jae: So it's good that, you know, it's such a cheap weekend. [1196.35] Jae: And that includes the camping overnight, which is usually a tenner anyway. [1200.35] Jae: Yeah. [1201.35] Jae: Awesome. [1202.35] Jae: So if you're in the area, or even if you want to travel, it's at Hidden Valley. [1205.35] Jae: I'll find the link on Eventbrite. [1208.35] Jack: Did you... [1209.35] Jack: Yeah. [1210.35] Jack: So it's this weekend. [1211.35] Jack: Also, don't forget, I've put a link up in our Facebook and everything else for our Patreon. [1222.35] Jack: Let's drone out Patreon. [1224.35] Jack: If you can donate anything, you can. [1229.35] Jack: Yeah. [1230.35] Jack: Did anyone see the... [1232.35] Jack: We've got a... [1234.35] Jack: We've got a show. [1235.35] Jack: A drama show on UK TV. [1240.35] Jack: By the way, if any of you are watching BBC iPlayer from today and you don't have a TV license, you're now breaking the law. [1249.35] Jack: If you own a laptop and your mother is alive and she doesn't live near a river, you're also breaking the law. [1260.35] Jack: If you're vegan and you own only one dog, you're also breaking the law. [1268.35] Jack: Anyway. [1269.35] Jae: If I drive outside of someone's house and access their wireless but I'm outside on a laptop, am I breaking the law? [1279.35] Jack: If you don't have a TV license, then yeah. [1281.35] Jae: No, if I'm borrowing... [1284.35] Jae: Yeah, it's crazy, isn't it? [1286.35] Jae: It is crazy. [1287.35] Jae: Yeah. [1288.35] Jae: Anyway, there's... [1291.35] Jae: Casualty. [1293.35] Jae: Casualty. [1294.35] Jae: We had a casualty on UK TV and the actual show was called Casualty. [1298.35] Jae: And it's drone related, isn't it Jack? [1300.35] Jae: I didn't see a snippet of it. I couldn't watch it. It was too horrific. [1303.35] Tony: Yeah, I saw a... [1305.35] Tony: Yeah, I saw a snippet. [1308.35] Jack: So basically, you don't even see it. You just see a guy, see a drone, he looks up and then it smashes into the back of a tail rotor of a helicopter. [1318.35] Jack: This is fictional. [1320.35] Tony: And the helicopter was flying too low. [1324.35] Jack: Yeah. [1325.35] Jack: I think air ambulance, it's allowed to. [1328.35] Jack: Okay. [1329.35] Jack: Anyway. [1330.35] Jack: Though you can watch Casualty without a TV license, is Casualty on BB... It is, isn't it? It's BB-2. [1337.35] Jack: It is, yes. [1338.35] Jack: So if you want to watch this, you'll have to pay. [1342.92] Jack: Just itching my foot, hang on. [1344.92] Jae: Oh, it looks like you're itching something else there. [1346.92] Tony: Yeah. [1348.92] Tony: Not that low, Dale. [1350.92] Jae: You're going to show a bit more skin for him, Tony. [1352.92] Jae: Come on. [1353.92] Jack: Tony, is that next, mate? I don't know what you're on about. [1358.92] Jack: I can see your nipples. [1360.92] Jae: It must be on YouTube, this clip. [1363.92] Jae: Let's find it. [1365.92] Jae: Because then you're allowed to watch it wherever you are. [1367.92] Jack: I've got it. [1368.92] Jack: Yeah, on YouTube. [1369.92] Jack: Hang on. [1371.92] Jack: I don't know whether it's YouTube. [1373.92] Jack: It's on Express.co.uk, I think. [1381.18] Jack: I don't know what player they use. [1384.18] Jack: Hang on. [1387.18] Jack: They've got a player. [1391.2] Jack: Screw it. That'll do. [1393.2] Jack: There you go. [1395.2] Jack: Link is in the chat. [1397.2] Jack: There you go. [1398.2] Jack: www.express.co.uk, showbiztv slash Casualty 30th anniversary helicopter crash. [1407.2] Jack: Itching again. [1410.61] Jack: Got such an itchy foot. [1413.61] Jack: And yeah, just, oh, God, it's not good for us. [1420.61] Jack: Because there's some people that are going to think that's A, real, B is going to happen. [1428.61] Jack: You know what I mean? [1429.61] Tony: The majority of people who watch Casualty think it's all real. [1433.61] Jack: Yeah, I suppose. [1436.61] Jack: I do not share Tony's views or beliefs. [1440.61] Tony: I do. [1441.61] Tony: And it's true. [1442.61] Tony: Yeah. [1443.61] Tony: The rest is real, isn't it? [1446.61] Jae: No, but people associate with the characters to actually think they're real. [1451.61] Jae: Oh, my God. [1455.43] Jae: I'm watching the clip again like that in full. [1457.43] Jae: Here we go. [1459.43] Jae: Yeah. [1460.43] Jack: Oh, they just picked someone up. [1463.84] Jack: And then at the end of all this carnage, like, you know, people get cut up, [1467.84] Jack: bits explode, everyone dies. [1470.84] Jack: All the drones fall. [1472.84] Jack: Kill all drone users. [1474.84] Jack: Put them on a list like a PO. [1477.84] Jack: Fucking bam everything. [1481.84] Jack: They're going to make America great again. [1484.84] Jack: What else can I say? [1486.84] Tony: I don't know. [1487.84] Tony: Something you can't say much more offensive than what you've just said in the last five seconds. [1492.84] Tony: Yeah. [1493.84] Jae: Well, we should skip to C, because I'm watching this in full, the full dramatized thing, [1498.84] Jae: because I only just saw the bit where it was going up to the helicopter. [1500.84] Jae: I never watched anything after it. [1502.84] Jae: And now I've just seen the horrific onslaught that that drone caused. [1505.84] Jae: Oh, my. [1506.84] Jae: Oh, my. [1508.84] Jae: You know what it reminds me of? [1510.84] Jae: Hold on. [1511.84] Jae: There is still waiting on the results we published of what a drone would do. [1515.84] Jae: Yeah, it's called bounce off. [1518.84] Jae: I know. [1520.84] Jae: But until that happens, there's nothing to come back with, is there? [1524.84] Jae: You can't change anything that's now done for the public. [1529.84] Jae: Do you not find when people like because obviously there's people that find know about this stuff, [1533.84] Jae: and there's people that either see it on the news or even know about it. [1535.84] Jae: Do you not find people come up and say, oh, did you see I like like that? [1539.84] Jae: They'll be in conversation. [1540.84] Jae: They'll make reference to what they've seen on telly or the news, [1544.84] Jae: like whether it goes or a prison or whether the plastic bag incident, you know. [1548.84] Jae: So they just drop it in conversation and it's just say shrug it off and just say, [1552.84] Jae: well, it wouldn't happen, blah, blah, blah. [1554.84] Jae: And that's the downside of something that people don't understand. [1557.84] Jae: And it's not going to change. [1559.84] Jae: I think it's just how fictional. [1561.84] Jae: Fictional. [1563.84] Jack: Not real. [1565.84] Jae: Burn your TVs. [1567.84] Jae: It's the best thing you could do. [1569.84] Tony: And your TV license. [1571.84] Jae: Yeah, if you're not paying for trash, just watch everything on YouTube. [1575.84] Jae: Download anything else from our country, legally allowed to. [1579.84] Jack: Or just if anyone asks about it, just say, yeah, that was a frozen drone. [1584.84] UNKNOWN: Yeah. [1586.84] Jack: That one wasn't fully defrosted. [1589.84] Jae: It was made of hardened steel. [1591.84] Jae: Most of the moment, but that was hardened steel. [1594.84] Jack: Yeah, that's it. [1595.84] Jack: Mine's only plastic. [1597.84] Jack: Like mine's carbon fiber. [1600.84] Jack: Tony's is where it hits a tree. [1602.84] Jack: Plastic propellers. [1604.84] Jack: I mean, how much damage? [1605.84] Jack: I mean, it's going to, it is honestly going to be like a small fly bumping into it. [1613.84] Jack: It's just going to annihilate the drone. [1616.84] Jack: Flick it off. [1618.84] Jack: Like it's nothing. [1620.84] Jae: Did you ever see the helicopter hit the wire when it was putting up the Christmas tree in New Zealand, I think? [1627.84] Jae: Was that bad? [1630.84] Jae: Well, it wasn't a drone. [1632.84] Jae: It was a steel cable that was running from one side to the other. [1635.84] Jack: Yeah, steel. [1637.84] Jack: And it has the power to like wind up and bind and then stop the... [1645.84] Jae: It has give and everything, yeah. [1647.84] Jae: It wouldn't just, it's not an immovable object for one. [1651.84] Jae: I'll paste it. [1652.84] Jae: If you've never seen it, it's actually, no one was hurt, [1655.84] Jae: but it's an interesting thing to see if you've never seen it before. [1659.84] Jae: Okay. [1660.84] Tony: On all rare ambulances now, got the enclosed rear. [1666.84] Jae: Yes, they do. [1668.84] Jae: Because for things like that, where they won't touch power, they're designed not to have... [1673.84] Tony: Yeah, exactly. [1674.84] Tony: Like if they've got a land in a park or something like that. [1677.84] Jae: Exactly. [1679.84] Jack: Here we go. [1680.84] Jack: I'm not being, like, who flies a drone near a... [1683.84] Jack: Oh, there's a helicopter here. [1685.84] Jack: You know what I mean? [1686.84] Tony: It's like he didn't, he couldn't hear it coming. [1689.84] Jack: I know. [1690.84] Tony: Well, I'll just take off now. [1691.84] Tony: Now I can hear it blatantly 20 foot above my head. [1695.84] Jack: And the other side of it is that it has a massive top rotor, right? [1701.84] Tony: Which would blow his down. [1703.84] Tony: Yeah, massive downforce. [1706.84] Jack: I have no hope of getting my drone anywhere near the downforce of that. [1714.84] Jack: I'm just gonna, if I came out of the helicopter, all it's gonna do is, like, literally, my gyro, [1719.84] Jack: whether I run or not. [1721.84] Jack: Okay, okay, Jack. [1723.84] Jack: No amount of eye gain is gonna help. [1726.84] Jae: Sorry. [1727.84] Jae: If you look at the second link, which has the time to the minute, [1731.84] Jae: you'll see this was actually on the main rotor blades. [1733.84] Jae: So not just the, not the tail rotor, but the main rotor blades, [1738.84] Jae: and you'll see what happens. [1740.84] Jae: It's good to watch. [1741.84] Jae: It's fascinating, in fact. [1742.84] Jae: I've seen it a few times. [1743.84] Tony: Was it an air ambulance or a police chopper? [1746.84] Jae: It was a normal chopper. [1747.84] Jack: Oh, Jesus. [1749.84] Jack: That was a bit weird, wasn't it? [1751.84] Jack: It's sort of, like, off-centered, like, no longer was the blades balanced. [1759.84] Jack: It kind of shook itself to pieces. [1762.84] Jack: That's really strange. [1764.84] Jae: It cut through the rear tail boom, as well. [1768.84] Jae: You'll see. [1769.84] Jae: It kind of shakes itself apart. [1771.84] Jae: So, yeah, it wouldn't have caused the carnage that casualty would have had. [1777.84] Jae: I mean, I think everyone was fine, thankfully. [1781.84] Jae: How many times have you watched it now, Jack? [1784.84] Jae: How many times have you watched it? [1786.84] Jack: I think the guys hurt themselves more by throwing themselves at the metal barriers. [1791.84] Jack: Really? [1792.84] Jack: Yeah. [1793.84] Jack: One, two, one, two, a couple of times, though. [1794.84] Jack: Shit! [1795.84] Jack: Do you know what's ironic? [1797.84] Jack: One of them falls over and one of the other guys tries to run away. [1801.84] Jack: The helicopter did the most damage to itself, which is, you know, sort of a bit odd. [1810.84] Jack: Poor Tony can't watch this, but Tony... [1812.84] Jae: I don't know if I'd be getting that close to those rotor blades whilst it was still spinning now like that. [1817.84] Jae: I mean, they're brave to get these guys out and stuff. [1820.84] Jae: Oh, yeah, you don't, you know, you're not going to leave them in there. [1824.84] Jae: But, you know, that's how a helicopter crashes, in a bad way, from something that hits one of the blades. [1829.84] Jae: And, okay, it would have still spun around differently on the casualty thing, but, yeah, who knows? [1837.84] Jack: I'm going to put the... [1839.84] Jack: If anyone would like to come, I'm going to put the Eventbrite LDO games in the chat. [1846.84] Jack: Tony, speaking of firsts for you, are you going to enjoy participating in a freestyle event? [1854.84] Jae: Tony has gone. [1859.18] Jae: You scared him off now. [1860.18] Jae: You know, you said freestyle to Tony and whether he'd participate and you scared him off. [1866.18] Jack: Come on, we've been to YouTube tonight now. [1869.18] Jack: At first, there was L.O.S. Tony. [1873.18] Jack: And then there was Tony with a wing. [1876.18] Jae: And now, the next installment, the one we never thought possible, Tony buying freestyle. [1889.18] Jae: Wow, it's coming right for us! [1892.18] Jae: I know, that's it. [1893.18] Jae: What in that helicopter? [1895.18] Jae: There's no lions. [1896.18] Jae: Where do I fly? [1897.18] Jae: What gates do I fly through? [1900.18] Jae: You can do, Tony, anything you want. [1904.18] Jae: You know, I have found, when I'm in Salisbury, there's one spot where you can fly up past [1908.18] Jae: this baseball net. [1909.18] Jae: You know, like, think cricket nets. [1911.18] Jae: It's just a small ring and you can drop straight into it and it's a wide opening. [1915.18] Jae: So if you're lined up properly, you fall into the nets and fly forward out of the nets. [1919.18] Jae: It is awesome. [1922.18] Jae: Whoa, we've got it calmed down there, Charboo. [1924.18] Jae: But, no, no, no, but I think we need more baseball nets in the UK. [1928.18] Jae: That's what I'm saying. [1931.9] Jae: If you haven't flown one, you haven't experienced that joy. [1935.9] Jae: Tony is gone. [1938.9] Jae: He's completely gone. [1939.9] Jae: He has. [1940.9] Jae: You scared him off completely. [1941.9] Jae: His internet couldn't handle it. [1942.9] Jae: The whole meltdown that's happened, where he's at now. [1944.9] Jae: I think he's lapped. [1946.9] Jae: I think Tony's overheated. [1949.9] Jack: And fall on fire. [1951.9] Jack: Yeah. [1952.9] Jae: Do not be on fire, Tony. [1954.9] Jack: Tony left group chat. [1958.9] Jack: Right. [1959.9] Jack: More news. [1960.9] Jack: Yeah. [1961.9] Jack: Helicopters. [1963.9] Jack: I shut down the news. [1965.9] Jack: The new Eosheen VRD2. [1969.9] Jack: Five inch, you know, screen goggles that kind of look like the, oh God, what are they called now? [1979.9] Jack: Quantum goggles. [1981.9] Jack: But they're already pre-built. [1983.9] Jack: Diversity. [1985.9] Jack: 40 channel. [1986.9] Jack: Raceband. [1987.9] Jack: Runs off 5.8, of course. [1989.9] Jack: Ooh. [1990.9] Jack: Any interest, Jay? [1992.9] Jae: Yeah. [1993.9] Jae: No, I do. [1994.9] Jae: To be honest, I just bought a receiver today and it turned up and it was RPSMA and I didn't think it was. [2000.9] Jae: But luckily I had an old rubbish antenna from somewhere. [2003.9] Jae: Yeah. [2004.9] Jae: But, no, I got no money for this stuff at the moment. [2007.9] Jae: I need to just sell myself to get the money for this hobby. [2011.9] Jack: I've heard you're now engaged. [2016.9] Jack: Congratulations. [2018.9] Jack: Yeah. [2019.9] Jack: How did that happen? [2021.9] Jae: It's been on the cards for quite some time, actually. [2024.9] Jae: I mean, no, we're not going to go for a full-on wedding and stuff. [2031.9] Jae: But it's just how it is. [2035.9] Jae: She's dear to me and I think a lot of her. [2040.9] Jae: She won't be listening. [2041.9] Jae: We had a discussion about drones. [2043.9] Jae: You're always flying. [2044.9] Jae: I know. [2045.9] Jae: I know. [2046.9] Jae: But more than I'm getting out. [2047.9] Jae: So, yeah. [2048.9] Jae: Cool. [2049.9] Jae: It's very cool. [2050.9] Jack: It's quite required on Facebook. [2054.9] Jack: Are you looking forward to the... [2057.9] Jack: No. [2058.9] Jack: It's an actual UAV show. [2060.9] Jack: Yeah, that's it. [2061.9] Jae: Yeah. [2062.9] Jae: Yeah. [2063.9] Jae: That is October, isn't it? [2064.9] Jae: It's coming around soon. [2065.9] Jack: Yeah. [2066.9] Jack: It's going to be our little anniversary. [2067.9] Jack: You're coming along to... [2068.9] Jae: Yeah. [2069.9] Jae: Actually, you're going to be there with the Hidden Valley crew. [2072.9] Jae: Awesome. [2073.9] Jae: Awesome. [2074.9] Jae: Yeah. [2075.9] Jae: So, you should get the dates for that. [2078.9] Jae: Do you know the dates, actually? [2079.9] Jae: It's worth a mention. [2080.9] Jae: Because Hidden Valley, there's a lot of people that listen to this show may not even know [2085.9] Jae: what Hidden Valley is. [2087.9] Jae: I've actually introduced a few people, including NJ Tech and a few other fires from this way, [2091.9] Jae: Cambridge sort of, Bedfordshire way, to Hidden Valley. [2094.9] Jae: But it's actually... [2096.9] Jae: It's unique in what it represents. [2099.9] Jae: So, it's good that we can run these events there and stuff. [2102.9] Jae: But Hidden Valley, we need more things like that, I think, essentially. [2107.9] Jae: But for people to fly and not have to worry about people who have seen TV stuff. [2113.9] Jack: Thanks, Steve. [2116.9] Jack: Yep. [2117.9] Jack: Steve said congrats. [2119.9] Jack: Aww. [2120.9] Jae: Well done, Jay. [2122.9] Jae: You know what? [2123.9] Jae: This summer has been pretty good in the UK for flying. [2125.9] Jae: I've really loved my QFVR, and it's set up for my ventures into KISS. [2132.9] Jae: Hidden Valley most... [2133.9] Jae: You've got KISS? [2134.9] Jae: Yeah, I've been flying... [2135.9] Jae: Yeah. [2136.9] Jae: No, not ESCs, but KISS. [2138.9] Jae: And yeah, now I've had Betaflight for so long, and 3K, but I haven't tried 3 yet, really. [2144.9] Jae: But I'm going to work that on my clone SP racing board for the other Hackabout quad. [2150.9] Jae: But I'm liking KISS. [2151.9] Jae: It's done me well. [2153.9] Jae: It flies, you know, smoothly and also how I want it responsibly. [2157.9] Jae: And that's a big thanks to NJTech for just doing another tune on it. [2161.9] Jae: Aww. [2162.9] Jae: So, for that, I thank you so much. [2164.9] Jae: Great. [2165.9] Jae: No, it's cool. [2166.9] Jae: I like to spend the time with the club. [2169.9] Jae: It's awesome. [2171.9] Jae: You know, when you find good flyers in your area, and you can learn a lot from them, I think it's key. [2176.9] Jack: I know. [2177.9] Jack: Well, I mean, I hung out with Oscar Lang for a while, and Dan Upton, and the osmosis is unreal. [2187.9] Jack: Like, you know, just hanging out with those sorts of people. [2190.9] Jae: Well, a little bit of a news story, news flash, I suppose, is he's up for doing little sort of segments, [2196.9] Jae: because he's very technically capable. [2199.9] Jae: I mean, he's known a lot. [2200.9] Jae: And he used to fly 3D headings and stuff, so he's always had that long-term RC experience. [2204.9] Jae: And it's like planes and everything. [2205.9] Jae: It's rare to find someone who's had a lot of experience in all the disciplines of RC, 3D headings, planes, and quads. [2211.9] Jae: So he's up for just doing, like, monthly or whatever tech time. [2215.9] Jae: So if you have questions and stuff, they're composed of two of them. [2219.9] Jae: I mean, even he's got his name out there. [2222.9] Jae: His YouTube channel is NJTech, if you haven't heard of it. [2224.9] Jae: But he's been on the show once, if you've heard that one. [2227.9] Jack: What was he reviewing last time? [2229.9] Jack: Because, like, loads of people... [2231.9] Jack: He's got bloody loads of hits on there. [2234.9] Jack: He reviewed something the other day. [2236.9] Jae: Well, there's a GCEP or something frame, which is a bang good frame. [2243.9] Jae: But it flies. [2245.9] Jae: I was lucky enough to see it's made in it. [2247.9] Jae: Oh, my God. [2248.9] Jae: It was fast. [2251.9] Jae: And he had some issues where... [2252.9] Jae: Because this is what I like about him. [2254.9] Jae: He fixes whatever issue he encounters. [2255.9] Jae: And what happened was, because the board helped him manage such a tight build, [2260.9] Jae: he was having issues where he couldn't tune out certain things on his yaw. [2265.9] Jae: And basically, he had to do several modifications, [2269.9] Jae: like shortening the standoffs so he could put more dampening in it, [2272.9] Jae: and essentially eventually dampening the flight controller, [2275.9] Jae: enabling him to tune it better. [2277.9] Jae: So now, if I was going to build one, [2279.9] Jae: he's done all the hard work in what he had to do around it. [2283.9] Jae: Yeah. [2284.9] Jae: So, yeah, he's a very knowledgeable man and a great resource to the hobby. [2288.9] Jae: And he put some sort of good videos. [2290.9] Jae: So if you haven't checked him out, check him out. [2292.9] Jae: But hopefully, yeah. [2294.9] Jack: Yeah, FPV at Crow School, Infinity Flips. [2299.9] Jack: Yeah. [2300.9] Jack: Yeah. [2301.9] Jack: Days ago, that's the one I watched. [2303.9] Jack: Yeah, Denny Flips. [2305.9] Jae: Well, I saw them from him first time, and I love doing them now. [2308.9] Jae: But in wind, I ended up quite far away. [2311.9] Jae: Boom, boom. [2312.9] Jae: And actually, it's fun. [2314.9] Jae: It's so much fun, especially for shine people. [2317.9] Jae: Ah. [2318.9] Jae: Yeah. [2319.9] Jae: Because it looks good light aside. [2320.9] Jack: You just think, what? [2321.9] Jae: It's just... [2323.9] Jack: Just having a quick little look to see what he's doing. [2328.9] Jack: He's a... [2329.9] Jae: We should put the link in the chat. [2334.27] Jae: Yeah. [2335.27] Jack: Yeah, I've got that. [2337.27] Jae: Because I think it's in... [2339.27] Jae: Look. [2342.65] Jae: It's not quite N.J. Tech, I don't think. [2345.65] Jae: It's N.J. Tech Guitar. [2350.56] Jae: Got it. [2351.56] Jae: Yep. [2352.56] Jack: Well, I've got the episode or thing now I'm watching. [2356.56] Jae: I should have it finally after the issue's getting connected tonight. [2360.56] Jae: I don't know where I'm at anymore. [2363.84] Jae: Just a race flight. [2364.84] Jae: He's the one... [2365.84] Jae: Because he tries to do the different FPV tuition videos and how to survive some... [2370.84] Jae: In fact, we should get Tony to learn some of these things off of these videos. [2374.84] Jae: That's it. [2375.84] Jack: For his freestyle. [2377.84] Jack: Tonight, he said, he's enough. [2379.84] Jae: Yeah, I think he's on his connection issues. [2381.84] Jae: But this is it. [2382.84] Jae: We can talk about him and set a challenge. [2384.84] Jae: We'll set the Tony challenge for him. [2386.84] Jae: Tony flying freestyle and doing each one of these FPV acro school things of N.J. Tech's. [2392.84] Jae: Yeah, that's it. [2393.84] Jae: Really annoying him. [2394.84] Jae: Awesome. [2395.84] Jae: That's perfect. [2397.84] Jae: So we'll film it. [2398.84] Jae: And like, you know, film him flying and his whole lead up to it. [2402.84] Jae: Just to prove he has flown freestyle. [2405.84] Jae: We're still in the car from his GoPro as well. [2407.84] Jae: So he's got a copy of his flight. [2409.84] Jack: I was really impressed with his wing. [2412.84] Jack: And his wing flying. [2414.84] Jack: He had a bloody good time. [2416.84] Jack: If he had more batteries, I reckon he would have stayed for a bit longer. [2419.84] Jae: Does he have it on three or four-cell? [2421.84] Jae: Three-cell. [2422.84] Jack: Three-cell. [2423.84] Jack: That's all he needed, honestly. [2425.84] Jae: Fine. [2426.84] Jae: There's very little I need to do on my plane to freak it down. [2429.84] Jae: But they fly for a while. [2430.84] Jae: You can fly ten minutes. [2432.84] Jae: Yeah. [2434.84] Jae: Well, he brought one back here. [2436.84] Jae: I haven't flown a plane in years. [2438.84] Jae: But, you know, with everyone posting their links on how they attach their phones to their quads and stuff. [2444.84] Jae: I went back through and I looked for when I used to do it with my phone. [2447.84] Jae: It was the old Nokia N93, if you remember it. [2450.84] Jae: It used to flip out. [2451.84] Jae: It looked like a camcorder. [2452.84] Jae: A little portable hand cam thing. [2455.84] Jae: And I built this designer balsa wood in elastic bands. [2458.84] Jae: And I attached it to my big SIG LT25 electric conversion plane. [2462.84] Jae: And I flew it around. [2463.84] Jae: It was eight years ago. [2465.84] Jae: It was 2008. [2467.84] Jack: Can I ask, you know when you convert a plane to electric? [2475.84] Jack: To electric, yeah. [2476.84] Jack: Do you offset the motor to stop the torque? [2480.84] Jack: Yeah, generally. [2481.84] Jae: I mean, usually it's built into the fuselage or the mounting bracket. [2487.84] Jae: If you have to fashion up a motor to go into the engine mount area where you mount it to the fuselage, [2494.84] Jae: you need about a five degree angle to counter the rotation of the prop. [2501.84] Jae: Okay. [2502.84] Jae: But usually you can, if it's just a plate that you bolt an engine mount to, [2508.84] Jae: it doesn't matter if it's an electric or an IC one, it has that built into it. [2512.84] Jae: Yeah. [2513.84] Jack: Okay. [2514.84] Jack: Yeah. [2516.84] Jack: We've got a giant Piper car. [2520.84] Jack: Yeah. [2521.84] Jack: Sheldon. [2522.84] Jack: Oh, on it coming down. [2525.84] Jack: Yeah, Sheldon down to Hidden Valley this weekend. [2530.84] Jack: So hopefully we're all going to chase him. [2533.84] Jack: Yeah. [2534.84] Jack: You know, Brian Jason. [2535.84] Jae: I had an awesome time. [2536.84] Jae: He brought down his massive, I think it was an extra plane, like 55cc plane. [2543.84] Jae: It was awesome. [2544.84] Jae: And actually, I've got the video. [2546.84] Jae: It was at Hidden Valley two weekends ago for Quinn's birthday bash. [2550.84] Jae: And I need to post it. [2552.84] Jae: It was awesome fun. [2553.84] Jae: I love chasing planes. [2554.84] Jae: And maybe that's it. [2555.84] Jae: Mine's a small little cigar V4. [2557.84] Jae: But yeah. [2559.84] Jae: Chasing planes in the air is fun because you can usually tell what it's going to do so you can follow it. [2567.84] Jae: You can chase my plane, Jack. [2568.84] Jae: I mean, you can chase my plane. [2570.84] Jack: Sheldon, I really do. [2575.95] Jack: I really do. [2576.95] Jack: Good guy. [2578.95] Jack: Yeah, I do. [2580.95] Jack: I miss you. [2581.95] Jack: I miss Adam. [2582.95] Jack: I can't wait for this weekend. [2583.95] Jack: I'm looking forward to... [2585.95] Jae: So who's coming down that you know of from this weekend then? [2587.95] Jae: Is Adam coming down? [2589.95] Jae: I believe so. [2591.95] Jae: He's back. [2592.95] Jae: I believe. [2593.95] Jae: You know, Jack from up this way who was down during the build day. [2596.95] Jae: Let's turn out his coming down. [2599.95] Jae: It should be a good turnout. [2602.95] Jae: Dom's, I think, camping at Friday night, isn't he? [2604.95] Jae: So he might be down. [2605.95] Jae: Yeah. [2606.95] Jae: That's going to be fun. [2607.95] Jae: Should be a good weekend. [2608.95] Jae: Yeah. [2609.95] Jae: Let's just say voice. [2610.95] Jack: If you can make it, please come join. [2613.95] Jack: You know, join the party. [2615.95] Jack: Watch me and Tony Bicker. [2617.95] Jack: I think Jay and Tony are going to Bicker more now. [2620.95] Jack: No, no, no. [2621.95] Jae: You see, we have shared interest in food eating stuff. [2624.95] Jae: So he's never really going to do that for him. [2626.95] Jack: No. [2627.95] Jack: Not killing the animals. [2629.95] Jae: Yeah, exactly. [2631.95] Jae: Okay, I'm not as eco-friendly on the food scheme as he is on that front because he's vegan. [2638.95] Jae: You know, actually, it was so funny because on that way down when I came down the first [2641.95] Jae: night, and I was thinking this the other day, I remember in the car and he said, do you [2644.95] Jae: want to get some food? [2645.95] Jae: And I said, oh, no, I'm vegetarian. [2646.95] Jae: Don't worry about it. [2647.95] Jae: And he said, don't worry. [2648.95] Jae: The other person there's vegan. [2649.95] Jae: And I thought, he just followed my leg. [2651.95] Jae: He's not vegan. [2652.95] Jae: I mean, I'm vegetarian. [2653.95] Jae: That's one thing, but vegan? [2655.95] Jae: Wow. [2656.95] Jae: And I didn't actually. [2657.95] Jae: And then it turns out when I met Tony. [2659.95] Jae: Yeah. [2660.95] Jae: It was. [2661.95] Jae: Yeah. [2662.95] Jae: Yeah. [2663.95] Jae: Fair play, Tony. [2664.95] Jae: Fair play. [2665.95] Jae: It's not easy. [2666.95] Jack: It's not easy. [2667.95] Jack: And you've taken the hard route. [2668.95] Jack: Yeah. [2669.95] Jack: That's why. [2670.95] Jack: That's why I was like bloody vegetarian scumbags. [2673.95] Jae: Well, yeah, that's the thing because the next event where I met you or something. [2678.95] Jae: Oh, no, that was before that, wasn't it? [2680.95] Jae: Yeah, that was before that. [2682.95] Jack: And I was just like, yeah. [2684.95] Jack: Well, I'm never like jacked seriously. [2687.95] Jae: I'm hoping you're going to bring the veggie friendly grill. [2692.95] Jae: Don't you have the friendly grill or the one that Tony uses? [2697.95] Jack: Yeah, it's still in vegetarian mode. [2701.95] Jack: So it's never had meat cooked on it? [2704.95] Jack: No, it has. [2705.95] Jack: But it was thoroughly cleaned. [2707.95] Jack: Yeah. [2708.95] Jack: It's been thoroughly cleaned and then had only vegetable things cooked on it. [2712.95] Jack: So it's a toning stone, which is a high standard of cool. [2716.95] Jack: It's a high standard of, you know, set fire to it for half an hour. [2723.95] Jae: I try and be strict, but he is much more hardcore than I. [2730.95] Jae: Oh, that's good. [2738.95] Jae: Yeah, so there's only a few. [2744.87] Jack: Any other topics you want to bring up? [2746.87] Jack: There's not much that has happened this week. [2748.87] Jack: No. [2749.87] Jack: This week, there was the there was like a little meet up and stuff where Tony flew his wing and stuff with another fossil. [2757.87] Jack: The guys came and they built a tower out of scaffolding that was pretty amazing. [2761.87] Jack: I didn't get a flight that much. [2763.87] Jack: I literally showed up seven hours late and flew for two hours. [2768.87] Jae: Scaffoldings and hard removable objects like playground is fun until you hit it. [2774.87] Jae: And it might just be, it might be, you know, no hits or anything, but it makes for great video and and fine. [2782.87] Jae: But there's no two ways, is it? [2786.87] Jack: Now, in the chat, [2788.87] Jack: cameras or antennas usually for me of the of the bank holiday flying funds. [2795.87] Jack: That's what I named it. [2797.87] Jack: They said they all that's all they talked about for days afterwards was the how great the scaffolding was. [2805.87] Jack: So, you know, it's not easy to put up. [2811.87] Jack: What? [2812.87] Jack: How much these guys love this scaffolding? [2815.87] Jack: Should we call it there? [2818.87] Jack: Yeah, why not, man? [2820.87] Jae: Why not? [2821.87] Jae: I think we've been going for a while. [2823.87] Jae: We have. [2824.87] Jae: And it's been fun. [2825.87] Jae: I think we've done. [2826.87] Jae: Well, have we just made an hour? [2827.87] Jae: I don't know if we've just made an hour. [2829.87] Jae: Yeah, I think so. [2831.87] Jae: Let's open it up to the chat for the last five minutes. [2833.87] Jae: Is there anything anyone wants to chat, discuss anything or not even five minutes or whatever? [2838.87] Jae: Because how many people are listening? [2840.87] Jae: Can we see this group chat? [2841.87] Jae: We can see Steve in there. [2843.87] Jack: All viewers. [2844.87] Jack: No. [2845.87] Jack: Do you have all viewers? [2847.87] Jack: It's the group chat. [2848.87] Jack: I think the people who are in the group who've got the initial first link [2854.87] Jack: have got... [2856.87] Jack: So, I don't know. [2860.87] Jae: What's going to come down this week? [2863.87] Jack: I should have rescued a friend from the ordinary land. [2867.87] Jack: I think there's a... [2869.87] Jack: You would have put questions empowering on, if you want, because we can't see the actual chat. [2876.87] Jack: I bet there's people screaming at us. [2879.87] Jae: In fact, I have checked a couple of them. [2880.87] Jae: No, frankly... [2881.87] Jack: Downwash from a helicopter is 30 miles an hour at least. [2884.87] Jack: So, how the hell would you get a drone to fly anywhere near that tail rotor? [2888.87] Jack: Fair point. [2889.87] Jack: That's very true. [2891.87] Jack: Yeah. [2895.11] Jack: A maximum rate of an hour is 2 miles an hour. [2903.31] Jack: Downwash from a helicopter is 30 miles an hour at least. [2908.31] Jae: That may be a bit more than 2 miles an hour, but not 30 miles an hour. [2914.31] Jae: But that's the other thing they sold. [2916.31] Jae: They didn't say it went... [2918.31] Jae: They did go towards the tail rotor, so... [2921.31] Jae: It was plausible, and it's a shame that they dramatized it into a scenario. [2926.31] Jae: It's highly unlikely, but it was plausible to, you know, to... [2932.31] Jae: If everything was perfect, and even the chickens were crowing in the right way as the sun rose in the west... [2938.31] Jae: I don't know. [2941.14] Jack: No, that's it. [2943.14] Jae: Chris says, did you see what I posted about Pop'em? [2945.14] Jae: Pop'em. [2946.14] Jae: There is a little... [2947.14] Jae: I think we did earlier. [2948.14] Jae: There's a little fly-in or something that you scroll up. [2951.14] Jae: So, anyone coming for the Pop'em Open Practice Day on the 10th of September, you will need a 25 milliwatt and raceband compatible VTX. [2961.14] Jae: That's pretty hardcore. [2963.14] Jack: The thing is... [2965.14] Jack: The thing is, right, everyone's like, who is going to drive a milliwatt? [2969.14] Jack: But the raceband channels are not legal in the UK. [2974.14] Jack: Are they not? [2975.14] Jack: No. [2976.14] Jack: No, they are not. [2978.14] Jack: I've had it on authority that you're not allowed to use the raceband channels. [2984.14] Jack: They are illegal. [2986.14] Jae: Okay, well, just to add to that, actually, Chris did say he will put a proper notice out on the Facebook groups soon. [2994.14] Jae: So, that's just over a week away, isn't it? [2996.14] Jae: So, not this weekend, next weekend. [2997.14] Jae: I'm not going to be going... [2999.14] Jae: Even though I do have a raceband TM25, which some people have been having problems with, but I love mine. [3005.14] Jae: That means you have to have even a raceband compatible receiver on you, which I broke mine recently. [3013.25] Jae: So, that's going to be an open practice day for those only with the required equipment, unfortunately. [3020.25] Jack: Okay, thank you. [3022.25] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Drone On for the last hour. [3026.25] Jack: Sorry. [3027.25] Jack: No, let's drone out. [3029.25] Jack: Yeah. [3031.25] Jack: Sorry, we've... [3033.25] Jack: It was a bit of a mess. We were all late. [3037.25] Jae: We've learned from the experience. [3039.25] Jae: But thanks to all our listeners who've managed to find us, despite, and even if you listen to this afterwards, thanks for listening to it afterwards. [3046.25] Jae: Actually, it's been quite the worst night in history at first, drone out. [3049.25] Jae: Anytime one year anniversary. [3051.25] Jack: That's it. [3052.25] Jack: So, don't forget, we've got a Patreon. [3054.25] Jack: If you can do that, that will really help. [3057.25] Jack: Because then we won't... [3060.25] Jack: That will really help new listeners of the show or people who have only just discovered us because then it means that we'll be able to have a bad catalogue and all hosting can be held up. [3073.25] Jack: So far, we've got three dollars from our first Patreon. [3077.25] Jack: Don Robinson, thank you. [3079.25] Jack: The reason why Let's Drone Out exists is because he wanted a podcast to listen to. [3086.25] Jack: The Gremlin is us. [3100.06] Jack: So, like, if you like the show, then you like The Gremlins.