=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 59 === Title: More people have been saved by drones than blown up by drones Recorded: 2016-10-13 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Jae "Chipko", Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Adam Juniper, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 2,335 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS0_YVYCWJA); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/295221729-letsdroneout-more-people-have-been-saved-by-drones-than-blown-up-by-drones.mp3) ==================================== https://www.facebook.com/letsdroneout/ Every Thursday 8pm 0 UTC [0.66] Jack: Let's drone out [2.66] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to let's drone out. You're joined by the usual crew [36.38] Jack: First we have Adam Juniper. Hello, and we have Frank [41.02] Jack: Litchy robot Frank try again. Let's you robot Frank. Hello. I'm here and then [48.22] Jack: above you [49.66] Jack: Yeah, we'll send us Jay [51.78] Jack: Whichever you want. I had to turn go and that's my phone and last but not least [57.38] Jack: Everyone's favorite vegan sausage. Bonjour [61.7] Jack: French [65.74] Jack: Happened in the weekend with a slightly garlic aftertaste and [70.26] Jack: Your usual rub you up the wrong way bright until I fly. Yep been a [75.82] Jack: Quite relaxed but busy but interesting week everyone [80.1] Jae: Has been a fun week actually. Yeah another trip down to hidden valley this weekend that went well [87.38] Jae: Yeah, well you were there actually you wanted to be a hippie this weekend [90.42] Jae: I'm sure I could see the glint in your eye, but I think we need to give a service. We hung out for a bit [96.3] Jae: Yeah. Yeah. Um, just so everyone else whoever hangs out with you Jack [99.84] Jae: They do need to know that you have a bit of a biscuit fetish and you will chomp through any biscuits you find [104.74] Jack: And I'm starving [106.78] Jack: Enjoy, I would have delivered food [110.14] Jack: I know I got food delivered to me. I just can't help it [115.18] Jack: Tell everyone what happened. Well, he turned up and ate all my biscuits. That's what happened [122.06] Tony: We could make it a bit more impressive than that you flew biscuits from one end of the field for the other [130.22] Jae: Well, yeah, okay [131.38] Jae: The story goes that Jack landed in front of us because we're still pitching pitching up 10 Matt and I hello Matt [137.26] Jae: We're pitching a tent you than it is [139.42] Jae: I know I know I said Jack flew down and wanted to write a note a love letter or something to fly it back [145.86] Jae: That we didn't know that at the time. So Jack flew his little [150.22] Jae: Beast next to us and we we set it free again. It flew back to you, didn't you? [154.62] Jae: And anyway, we had a chat and we thought well, you know since you came over and started eating all my biscuits [158.9] Jae: What'd you know, I had biscuits [161.06] Jae: Then we thought okay, maybe maybe we can do a remote biscuit delivery [165.62] Jae: We're expecting tea or coffee back Jack, but we didn't get any [169.66] Adam: I was thinking it would be quite an achievement, wouldn't it? [173.1] Jack: Yeah [178.62] Jack: Yeah, daniel oxton, um does have a flask of tea usually so it could have been done [184.94] Tony: We we could have been with tomatoes. We know how to do that [188.46] Tony: or vegs [189.9] Jack: You're you're way better at tomato delivery than I am [194.06] Jack: mine instantly fall off [196.86] Adam: It doesn't sound [199.34] Adam: Very creepy when you say that tomato delivery, I don't know what it is, but you want some red boys [207.1] Adam: Well exactly [209.42] Jack: Um tone is is tomato ketchup vegan? [214.38] Tony: Uh, the ones I use [218.3] Tony: Was I speaking really good english then is the one I use is [222.06] Jack: The oh, yeah, I don't I don't want to incriminate myself, but [227.34] Jack: I flew at brighton beach. Uh [231.0] Tony: Yesterday you're allowed to fly on beaches are storm [235.18] Jae: Or something you think brighton beach but you have to anywhere pay a fee if you film it I think [243.34] Jae: There's something to use it [245.34] Jae: Yeah, I suppose if you put it on youtube [248.06] Adam: You're not even allowed to record audio on brighton beach without paying a fee to [251.82] Adam: Really? [253.1] Adam: Yeah [254.14] Jae: What the the waves have painted it or something the wave noise. It's the well it's it's [259.58] Adam: A lot of councils do it. They um, you know, you use their public land they [265.18] Adam: Can charge is why you know people are so keen to have film shots in london [270.62] Adam: The you know the mayor's office ends up with a pack pile of cash [274.7] Jae: Well a lot of the parks the royal parks do charge their fair so much to do any filming in them [279.02] Adam: So yeah, and also why the uh national trust are not super keen [282.94] Adam: You know you fly it's not so much safety [285.82] Adam: You're just flying around doing it for free without getting their permission means. I won't know to get the money on [291.58] Jack: Yeah [293.58] Tony: We should build charge just for walking around because we get filmed all the time i'm gonna put [298.62] Adam: Charge you should charge everyone who yeah [301.02] Adam: Who looks at you? Yeah [303.58] Adam: You don't [305.58] Jae: Shouldn't we be paid for looking at you tony? [309.34] Jae: I I want my money [313.9] Jae: Um, well if I listen haven't worked out by the way, uh, we are just talking a lot of uh, [318.62] Jae: Dogs products and stuff. So we don't have any guests. I do it. Where's trappy? [322.86] Jack: Uh, he's busy with is it miami? [327.58] Jack: Everyone everyone's busy [330.54] Jack: Um, I i've tried i've [334.06] Jack: Tried to jump on skype frank. He sent me a link earlier from uh [340.06] Jack: From someone's instagram. What was it? Because uh, it's no longer that was [346.94] Frank: That oh, maybe it's too, uh controversial [351.5] Frank: Oh, what was it? [353.58] Frank: it was uh [354.94] Frank: about the [356.54] Frank: ersa european road to sports association euro cup in ibeta [361.34] Frank: um [362.38] Frank: if anyone's [363.74] Frank: seen the coverage [366.54] Frank: Watched it from afar when it was going on there was uh, just the slightest bit of uh [373.82] Frank: um, so [375.66] Frank: In particular this was a comment because if you've seen it you've seen that it didn't the gram final didn't happen it [384.06] Frank: Had a bit of weather problems in it, you know, we complained about the weather here [390.22] Frank: Well, you see, you know, you know how we have problems where it like drizzles a bit and it's like a bit breezy and a bit chilly [397.34] Frank: I had impressed by tornadoes [399.98] Frank: um [402.38] Frank: And I will put the link [406.22] Frank: See on the canvas [409.66] Frank: I was listening that way. Um [412.62] Frank: It's this quite amazing shot where the scaffolding poles [417.74] Frank: that are buried in the ground and holding up the netting around the uh [422.86] Frank: Have just folded down [425.34] Frank: like it completely collapsed [428.14] Frank: um [430.06] Frank: That kind of gives you a bit of an idea. Uh, and this is from the multi-rooted parts, uh facebook page they've [438.46] Frank: They've had that photo [440.86] Frank: um [441.66] Frank: And so but you know, everyone was pretty understanding of that [444.7] Frank: Um, you know, there's nothing you can do about the weather that just happens and when it's that serious [450.78] Frank: you know, there's videos from [453.42] Adam: their travel that kind of thing [456.38] Adam: You see so [458.38] Frank: so there's videos from uh, leo whitfield and multi-rooted parts and i'm sure chad novak was recording stuff as well [466.46] Frank: uh from how kind of [469.1] Frank: Holding everything down trying to keep everything everything together trying to protect all the equipment [475.5] Frank: and it just looks like [477.34] Frank: Yeah, a ship that's starting to sink is just that much water coming in the sides [483.34] Frank: And the everything's shaking apart and they all just give up and run away [487.42] Frank: Um at some point when it cowards that actually might actually get [493.58] Adam: Towards me I go out and fight it. I don't run away [497.18] Jae: I'm just thinking you could have really good yore spins off a tornado. You just put it up and it'll go round and round and round [503.1] Jack: Yeah, I mean, I think you probably don't need to be bad to do that with this inspire [509.42] Jack: Instant lift. Oh, no, bloody hell. Was it really a tornado? [516.7] Jae: It wasn't a hurricane it was a tornado, but they they could be quite small but destructive so yeah [524.06] Frank: Um, so it was really localized to their little uh, kind of island [531.02] Frank: So it was not you know, I think eight people got injured on the whole of ibf [536.78] Frank: But yeah, and that's there was there was [540.54] Adam: That's literally not done. Is it that's I mean it's injured. It's a serious weather event [545.82] Frank: Yeah, exactly. Um [548.7] Frank: I could have done about that, but there were complaints [552.22] Frank: Uh, and this is what jack was originally talking about when he brought up [556.22] Frank: uh [557.34] Frank: Complaints that maybe the whole event even before that [562.94] Frank: Had not gone quite [565.02] Frank: The plan and hadn't been as well organized as other events that we've had [570.14] Frank: um [572.38] Frank: Are you working [574.54] Frank: exactly, um [577.42] Frank: So they were claiming that there has not been enough [580.3] Frank: uh in the way of actual racing, you know where we get through [585.34] Frank: to manage the other weekends, uh to have [590.14] Frank: Just laps and then rounds of flying in like two days [595.42] Frank: um [596.46] Frank: even when it was good weather they were struggling to [599.74] Frank: in a week, so [601.98] Adam: Was language a thing at all [605.34] Adam: Uh [607.82] Frank: Yeah, it's a fair point. I I don't know but there was just being suggestions from uh a few people that went to the event that [616.78] Frank: Be it could have been organized better [620.3] Frank: even without the weather being a problem [623.5] Tony: Even if you're uh, every everyone who flies has to speak in english. Is that right? [628.46] Frank: Well, not pretty much [631.02] Frank: The international language of aviation so [635.1] Adam: International flight though [637.1] Adam: So if you're in a small area and you call a small airfield they have no reason to speak english [642.7] Adam: If the small area is in spain [646.22] Jae: Um, yeah international airports international airports will communicate and both should communicate in english, but [652.94] Jae: yeah [655.02] Jack: So, um, what happened to is it esperantian or whatever it was [660.94] Jack: Esperanto [662.54] Jack: Yeah, esperanto. That's it. Oh my god. It makes you think of red dwarf solve a problem [667.74] Adam: Yeah, yeah. Well done red dwarf if you want to solve the problem like not [671.34] Adam: People not be able to speak together [673.34] Adam: Start with the language that nobody speak. Why not simply start with what most people already can speak [678.14] Adam: Like say english by accident of history. We have the the one universal language [686.11] Adam: And check this out [688.11] Jack: Pretty much [689.55] Tony: Adam are you eating? Adam mute your mic when you're doing sitting [695.87] Tony: Who says it was me? [698.59] Adam: I think it was [702.35] Adam: Oh, it was a show at least you share what food you've got I mean [706.03] Adam: If I could no you did and the world would be just so much better wouldn't it you could just [710.89] Adam: broadcast food [713.29] Jae: Well mega sex whacks on the chat did ask how do we waterproof them and i'm trying to post a picture of the top [718.49] Jae: Quad with the windscreen wiper in the chat, but it's not letting me jack. Maybe you can [722.89] Jack: No, thanks the one. I don't know it works [726.33] Jae: Yeah on the youtube one [728.73] Frank: Oh, no, no, I don't know. They won't let you post links in the youtube chat. I can't imagine [734.17] Jack: Well, even your links to youtube videos. It doesn't [738.41] Jack: Hang on write something normal and I will make you a moderator [743.05] Jack: try that [744.73] Jack: or [745.77] Jack: replay sounds through the thing [748.97] Jack: and [750.73] Jae: and uh [752.49] Jae: Welcome to let's join out. You're currently tuned in on paragon.co.uk or on the hanging out [757.77] Jae: Try now [760.33] Frank: Ah, yeah, we we're everywhere at the moment, but yeah voice of doom and mitch and [765.37] Frank: Owen and [766.97] Frank: Adam are all listening in on powering on at least [770.73] Frank: Yeah, and raymond care as well [773.77] Frank: uh [775.69] Frank: youtube [778.25] Frank: Owen as well again [780.65] Frank: Access we've already mentioned mike mike [783.69] Frank: so many us hello [786.49] Jae: Over now from the break start before it started. Yeah. Hello to all [790.89] Jae: If you've got any questions come and pop along and post them in either pairing on or on youtube live stream [796.57] Jae: And we'll try and answer them on the show [798.57] Frank: We'll jump around and try to find them. Yeah [802.89] Jack: Damage something. Um, yeah, so tone if you were out there in arbitha, they probably would have tied a ground rope to you [812.65] Tony: Due to your umpa lumpa like size well, it's only because we're just giving you like a stone [817.69] Jae: So give me a plastic bag and see what happens [820.57] Jae: So there's wings [822.73] Tony: Isn't there wings wings wings everywhere with wings this weekend. Yes. I miss my wing actually delivery today. I ordered a tbs cabrani [831.93] Tony: Or however, you say and it well, I miss the postman today. So i've got to wait tomorrow to get it [837.69] Jack: And jack your wings flying, isn't it? [840.49] Jack: Uh barely you have to strap [843.37] Jack: Uh, not nickel mill hydration [846.41] Jack: Yeah, or tony [847.77] Jack: Uh, one of tony's appendages [850.09] Jack: um [851.37] Jack: And yeah, it's really super tail heavy. Hopefully after the show I can nip over and [857.05] Jack: Visit dan upton because he's got a 22 [860.55] Jack: 2008 cobra [862.25] Jack: to dry out on that and I thought I'd have enough nose weight having a decent size three cell and [868.97] Jack: a gopro at the front [871.53] Jack: uh, but I don't I don't and uh [875.21] Jack: Little issues i've got at the moment my gopro battery holds zero charge [881.13] Jack: So, uh, that was a good thing really because when I did fly down the beach, I didn't record anything, which is pretty good [886.73] Jack: I did record video [888.57] Jack: but uh [889.69] Jack: Don't tell brighten beach that or brighten council. What did you wing it down the beach? [898.32] Jae: He must have done always gotten his he's just decided to go quiet. Oh, can you not hear me? [903.52] Jack: You know, did you wing it? Did you wing it down? No, no, no, no, no [908.96] Jack: Definitely not. I uh, no my wing my wings a bit, you know, how are you doing? [915.28] Jae: Not not a hundred percent reliable yet still don't own a wing and after the epic epic plane destruction of my [922.64] Jae: Uh several year old plane. Thanks to clinton. Yeah, cheers clinton [928.64] Jae: You did actually in fact there is some video footage of it [930.64] Jae: I mean it was two batches basically I crashed it and knocked the hub front motor in [935.12] Jae: And I was flying my quad around quite happily because i've been it i've had it for years [939.04] Jae: It's had no numerous crashes next thing [940.96] Jae: I know when I take my goggles off clint stuck the motor on the top of the cowl [945.2] Jae: So it barely looks like a plane anymore. He says can you fly it? I says, yeah, i'll try [949.44] Jae: Uh, we flew it around a couple [951.36] Jae: Couple circuits and well, I flew one whole battery through it [954.08] Jae: He was aiming for it, but he didn't get it on the second batch [957.36] Jae: I was just coming in for a nice slow pass because the other ones stopped working halfway through they snapped [962.56] Jae: I was down to rudder and elevator and I came in for a nice [965.44] Jae: Pass because it was hectic flying this pig in the air [968.08] Jae: And he just came across and snapped it across the fuselage and it fell with his quad [974.64] Jae: There is some video of it i'll see if I can find it [976.8] Jae: Um, so i've been I basically thought I can take all the electrics out of the servos and stuff and put it in wing [982.08] Jae: So dan mentioned the flying wings hornet because it's already made out for fpb [987.6] Jae: So they're literally just down the road. So i'm going to go speak to lop from there and [991.76] Tony: See if I can pick one up. Yeah, they're pretty good wings. I always fly mine Saturday. Is yours a hornet? [997.28] Tony: Uh raven [999.12] Tony: Ah from flying wings. Yeah, but it is a flying wings design [1003.36] Jack: right [1006.0] Jae: I [1008.0] Jack: Adam gooch is telling me off. I got a comment after watching jacks racing at the nationals freestyle is cool, man [1014.88] Jack: But by the way, you flew the wrong way through gates bad form dude. I know i'm very sorry [1020.96] Adam: There was only one other freedom in your freestyle. Yeah [1025.68] Tony: Yeah, that that kind of when you did that I was chuckling on the sideline just chuckling watching you do that [1032.8] Tony: I was like where you're going to go the wrong way [1036.72] Jack: But there was there was only one other person that um was up and that was [1043.68] Jack: Ycopter which I am friends with and I did kind of [1046.88] Jack: I didn't warn him a little bit [1048.96] Jack: What I was i was gonna do and it was kind of like the heat of the moment because I was a bit pissed off [1054.24] Jack: And I know it's wrong. But also [1056.88] Jack: It was wine thomas greer up day [1059.84] Jack: um, I didn't know he was ill and [1062.96] Jack: I'm really surprised. He didn't it wasn't until he met you [1068.64] Jack: Mentally ill now [1071.68] Jack: I don't know how like I did I have sent a message to him [1077.44] Jack: Saying like thank you for having a good sense of humor [1082.08] Jack: When it comes to dealing with me, you know [1085.92] Jack: That's that's the sentence. I never thought i'd ever say to tom [1089.92] Jack: But um, I said I sent him I sent him the link to that video and said like feel free to write some abuse [1095.92] Jack: And I was expecting to get disqualified [1098.64] Jack: Which I didn't they may have deducted points from me because I did finish [1103.92] Jack: Pretty much last I I think I don't know. I need to I need to talk to him. But [1109.84] Jack: you know, um [1111.68] Jack: Frank was trying to coach me and if i ever get another shot at the nationals, I promise i'll i'll do i'll try and do better [1119.92] Tony: Well [1123.52] Jack: Can you just let me know the course like months in advance like so [1128.4] Jack: you know like [1129.6] Jack: Me and frank can rent a caravan together and he holds like little plastic cows and he's like this gate is really big [1135.92] Jack: And that one is far away [1138.4] Tony: You're allowed to do that in america and not in english in america [1142.0] Tony: You're allowed to know the track you're allowed to know it before you fly it before they even set it up [1148.0] Jack: I think the quote the quote the day was like [1151.52] Jack: Like the last week in frank being like he is literally james may [1156.4] Jack: You know like don't look because i'm cheating to try and remember how the course was i'm like frank [1162.08] Jack: I don't know and I slightly don't care [1165.36] Jack: Um, I just I don't I don't know what's wrong with me, man [1168.48] Jack: I've got i've got a bad mindset when it comes to racing [1170.96] Jack: I kind of need tony to like be like you're gonna fly through these gates and if you don't i'll [1176.8] Jae: Snap a switch off your tyrannis [1181.6] Jae: You know, I haven't i'm watching from the first time you've run out the nationals actually so link for the diocese is youtube [1189.68] Jack: Oh, I just yeah, I just i've so hang on i've got to post the link to it [1194.56] Jack: um [1195.36] Frank: Just so that people know how awful it was say that every time you go through a gate the wrong way a battery dies [1202.32] Jack: Oh god, yeah, or a kissy a sea explodes [1207.12] Jack: uh [1208.72] Jack: All right, the old ones the 80-bit ones, uh, yeah digital protocol guys felix announced that an rc 30 [1216.16] Jack: I looked at it for about 10 minutes and even i'm confused [1220.88] Jack: Uh, I might need tuition from daniel upton on that one. Has anyone seen any of that anyone got any idea what i'm on about? [1229.36] Jae: No [1232.32] Jae: Yeah tumbleweeds plenty around here at the moment jack, come on fill it in [1236.96] Jack: Shall I just read out the ese list now? Come on [1240.16] Jae: In fact, we haven't had that for a long time jack, please please just do something akin to that [1245.44] Jack: Oh, man, look i'll post the link. Hang on. I've got it. Yeah shipping forecasts. That's not straight now [1251.52] Jack: We've got jack csc [1255.52] Frank: 30 amps [1257.52] Jack: Yeah [1259.84] Jack: Hang on. Oh, let me stop it. All right. There you go. D shot [1264.56] Jack: Everyone's left the chat [1266.56] Jack: 32 oh my god, they just like shut it for someone frank mute him mute him again [1272.48] Jack: We like that when you do that. Also, there's a bad word in in this video of mine [1279.2] Jack: Um, which is you know, i'd like to warn people about we haven't sworn yet, which is surprising for tony [1286.08] Adam: Well, that's just inviting me to do it [1289.36] Adam: You can't say you haven't sworn yet. Now i'm just sat here going [1292.8] Adam: uh, uh shit [1296.16] Frank: Are we reinforcing the uh the sweat jar [1299.76] Tony: No, I don't know [1302.08] Tony: That was the sea jar [1304.08] Adam: That's gonna back us here [1306.16] Jack: I know [1307.76] Frank: I think I think the sweat jar was a good idea first person to swear pays for the editing. I did this incorporation should be proportional [1315.12] Jae: Jack's gonna swear in a minute if he doesn't start his list [1318.8] Adam: I know [1319.84] Adam: I'm not saying i'm deliberately annoying him [1323.76] Jack: Uh, any has anyone heard of quad move [1329.6] Jae: Or have you never seen yeah, he's good. I mean he does line of sight and stuff doesn't he? [1335.2] Jae: amazingly [1337.2] Jae: So you've got kiss what quad isn't it? [1341.2] Jae: Is uh [1342.64] Jae: From our one. Yeah similar thing though, isn't that should find the link and post it [1349.5] Jae: Is a few videos is kind of spectacular [1354.83] Jack: um [1356.67] Jack: Right, so you've got the [1359.07] Jack: kiss fc [1360.59] Jack: d shot te [1362.75] Jack: chrome gui [1364.27] Jack: You got the kiss 24 amp [1366.35] Jack: D shot without debug and kiss fc [1371.15] Jack: d shot rc [1373.87] Jack: 37 [1374.99] Jack: and uh, it was it was helped by boris b [1378.91] Jack: And uh speaking of which um, I might message him right now and just be like I might need your help [1387.39] Jack: I don't need your help. He might be replacing mine with I do need your [1394.43] Jack: idea hang on revision [1398.59] Jack: I do need your help [1403.79] Jack: with [1405.15] Jack: d shot [1407.15] Frank: Why don't you start with letting us know like [1410.99] Frank: What it's replacing because presumably you understand that [1415.71] Jae: What what what? [1418.51] Jack: You cut the d shot what's yeah [1421.71] Frank: What's d shot replacing? [1424.03] Jack: it's uh [1425.71] Jack: replacing the [1427.07] Jack: Six, uh, is it 16 or eight bit? I can't remember [1431.39] Jack: eight bit [1433.23] Jack: you know, um [1434.83] Jack: one shot one to [1436.27] Jack: uh one to five and then also the [1440.19] Jack: Uh one shot 42 protocol. So it's giving you 11-bit throttle [1444.91] Jack: with a four bit c r c whatever that means [1448.83] Jack: Um, and it's just basically a digital protocol that works on 33 kilohertz [1455.23] Jack: um [1456.27] Jack: or the max well, it's the maximum loop time and um [1462.11] Jack: Yeah, so, uh high resolution [1465.31] Jack: 2048 steps [1467.31] Jack: No more oscillation drift [1469.47] Jack: No more calibrating escs [1472.35] Jack: um, you send the whole packet of information so it sends the [1476.97] Jack: 1375 uh [1479.55] Jack: God no signal [1481.93] Jack: 1375 and the esc will receive 1375 so the um [1488.67] Jack: You know, like you've got uh from 1000 to [1492.51] Jack: 2000 your mid points 1500 and that's your resolution of [1497.55] Jack: p [1498.27] Jack: wm signal [1500.03] Jack: um [1500.91] Jack: Yeah, so whatever value you you send there's no more like jitter, you know, like when you're sticks, uh, [1507.63] Jack: you know, like [1509.31] Jack: read the data and you've got you got like a loop time [1512.35] Jack: And the escs refresh and you send the information and it kind of jitters up and down [1518.03] Jack: So yeah, whatever whatever signal it does and it does receive [1522.43] Frank: so uh what it was going on previously like with the [1527.31] Frank: Qm at least and I think one shot [1529.55] Frank: 125 and whatever just a bit faster is just it sends a frequency of beeps essentially down the line and then the esc is maybe [1540.33] Frank: listening for a [1542.51] Frank: far out how far apart the beeps are and [1547.07] Frank: That kind of those [1549.15] Frank: While uh, you know how fast it then goes it makes the motor go [1554.91] Frank: It's a digital shot as in yeah, it's right. Whereas this time [1559.07] Frank: Yeah, this time instead of instead of it being you know [1563.87] Frank: Faster it's beeping at it. It's now [1568.03] Frank: Go that fast [1570.83] Frank: So it can't be confused by [1573.79] Frank: Where he's getting on the line or anything else. Yeah, I think it's the signal or it doesn't [1579.15] Jae: because I read a very [1583.39] Jack: Yeah, because like the the one shot 125 and or the one the 42 one or analog signals [1590.35] Jack: And like back in the day you had uh, pwm pulse width modulation [1594.67] Jack: And you had ppm where it stuck all individual pulses all in one packet all in one line [1601.23] Jack: And then it when there's like an error correction you send you send the values and then it compares it with [1608.99] Jack: I don't know what it compares it with. I don't know whether it compares it to what it got last time [1613.07] Jack: Or there's a set sort of parameters where [1616.27] Jae: Crc cyclic redundancy check and it checks for what value it all adds up to to make sure it's [1622.67] Jae: That's kind of yeah. Yeah, it's kind of works out the equivalent of what that packet should be [1628.67] Jae: Yeah, it says if it's an error and discard it or if it's valid in the key. Yeah [1633.31] Jae: That's so once [1635.23] Adam: Yeah, so wouldn't that slow it down a bit though? Yeah [1639.63] Adam: If you made a quick maneuver, it would interpret the first few [1643.71] Adam: As being bad data. Yeah [1646.35] Jae: But if you think of your home internet connection how it switches the same sort of data down a line at gigabits per second potentially soon [1654.43] Jae: Then you've got more than enough [1657.31] Jae: Bandwidth for [1658.91] Jae: Frost all the stuff. It's not really going to have latency the technology exists for [1662.83] Jae: switching really fast and effortlessly in in the [1667.71] Jack: He has he has got a point where there's like what is it 27 milliseconds for [1673.39] Jack: Ppm and then there's like next to no, I think it's like 0.10 milliseconds for [1680.35] Jack: you know, like the the [1682.67] Jack: s bus protocol and [1684.99] Jack: Spectrum satellite, you know the digital satellite protocols. So yeah, it went from pwm to ppm all in one line [1692.83] Jack: and then it went to [1694.19] Jack: see [1695.23] Jack: ppm coded pulse [1698.67] Jack: Uh pulse pitched is that right? I can't remember. What is it pulse position? I think [1706.09] Jack: Modulation so yeah [1709.79] Jack: Yeah, pwm and then ppm is [1714.75] Frank: So you're talking about going from the receiver to the flight controller. Whereas the [1721.15] Frank: It's going from the flight controller to the esc [1724.91] Frank: Yeah [1725.95] Frank: Pwm and it was 125 which is just fast to pwm with a bit extra fanciness [1731.87] Frank: And then now this is going completely digital [1734.67] Jack: Yeah, well, I was just trying to explain it from receiver point of view [1738.51] Jack: Because then okay, you know [1739.87] Jack: They were there was glitches and if you didn't want that then they released coded ppm [1745.79] Jack: Cppm so like loads of people have probably seen now on [1749.95] Jack: Um, you know clean flight [1752.27] Jack: Back in the day cppm and then ppm and that is the the coded. So it's kind of like a digital [1758.51] Jack: ppm [1759.71] Jack: Yeah [1762.35] Jae: Which is essentially [1765.15] Jae: Connection is on 3.3 volts. It's a logic [1768.51] Jae: Yeah [1770.67] Jack: So like, you know it it is that's why people like i'd be crazy exist where you could literally become an expert [1778.11] Jack: In just what signals you send to your receiver and know nothing about quadcopters [1784.27] Jack: You know, you could easily spend like a year studying that [1787.95] Jack: And I guess you know not in a coma [1790.99] Jae: When quads became sort of consumer level and people could build them from bits, you know five years ago relatively easily [1797.55] Jae: even longer than that, but the point people could build them you had to [1801.55] Jae: Know about batteries soldering building, you know putting one together. So [1806.67] Jae: The technology as a whole only existed in that whole model of what was a quadcopter [1810.67] Jae: Whether you built it yourself or you bought one [1812.43] Jae: Whereas nowadays the technology in different parts is getting more like computing where there's there's experts in one thing that knows nothing about the [1819.15] Jae: Rest of it, but that one thing is the one thing that requires the tuning the [1822.91] Jae: The bits that work on it. So it's quite interesting that quadcopters are getting to that level [1828.11] Jae: Where you can't necessarily build on yourself without [1831.71] Jae: help from friends [1835.07] Adam: That's why everyone needs a check [1836.99] Jack: Yeah, well, I remember back in the day, you know when like, you know a couple of [1842.43] Jack: You know about 10 years ago though, you know sat there with Tony and being like [1846.67] Jack: This is how you hold a soldering iron. It's kind of like a pen, but it's hot, you know [1852.35] Tony: How hot how hot I thought it was a fun if you don't know what if you don't know what our hot is [1856.99] Adam: You'll learn very quickly [1863.07] Jack: Now I just there's a cattle prong, don't I boy [1868.75] Tony: Cattle big vegan as well get on with my soldering you bastards. Oh, yeah [1875.55] Jae: I think that's technically the first swear in the swear jar [1881.79] Jae: You didn't use the right context [1883.79] Jack: so it is uh [1886.83] Jack: If i'm allowed to get away with that, let's throw tony under the bus here tone. I heard you had a new frame on [1892.89] Jack: yesterday [1894.19] Jack: No on wednesday [1897.79] Tony: No tone you can't leave it like that. Yeah, watch this [1904.52] Jack: Bit of dead air for everyone. Yeah [1907.08] Jack: Come on. It's being actually a fossil frame. I wouldn't mind [1911.4] Jack: Maybe touching [1913.08] Jae: Okay, you see moaning tone I am actually in the line for building something again soon [1917.88] Jae: So it may be you're gonna do a service. Come on. It's all secret squirrel stuff [1923.64] Jack: Okay, give us a clue. Give us a clue [1925.88] Jack: So you're you're admitting that fossil stuff is like a cult [1933.16] Adam: And to be clear everyone he said cult [1940.52] Tony: Dot penis [1943.72] Jack: Right, yeah, not [1949.32] Jae: Tony you come up with the word interesting. Yeah [1952.76] Jack: Man, that's a um bottom quote, isn't it? Yes. I can't believe rick mails dead. I know [1961.16] Tony: What a shame here's a shame [1963.64] Tony: I was because they were gonna do a bottom. I know this is going right off subject [1967.8] Tony: But they were gonna do a bottom [1969.48] Tony: Again when they were both in an old people's home, like it would have been well good. I'd love to have seen that [1976.28] Adam: father jack and father jack [1979.64] Jack: Um [1981.56] Jack: I I'll tell you what something that's really pissed me off. Uh for anyone who don't know, you know the x4rs by freesky [1988.92] Jack: They have changed. This is how nerdy I am [1991.88] Jack: They have changed the u dot fl connectors [1995.96] Jack: To u m c c [1998.74] Jack: connectors [2001.32] Jack: Connectors and i'm very angry and I don't know what to do because obviously I can't ring china and tell them no [2010.12] Jack: So I might just phone [2012.6] Jack: Uh t9 hobby instead [2015.96] Frank: What is that? [2020.52] Jack: Sorry you talked over tony. Hang on [2023.48] Tony: Tony what did you say? I said, what does that mean to all the viewers who don't know what the hell you're talking about. Ie me [2029.88] Jack: Ie so, you know when you break an antenna off your quad? Yes [2033.64] Jack: Off your receiver and you just pull it off and then you clip on a new one. Yeah, they're using smaller connectors now [2042.76] Tony: What so it's harder to do you still can do it? [2045.72] Jack: Yep harder to do and I don't know where to get u m c c [2051.24] Jack: Or o m c c. Well, no, it'd still be you. I don't know what they're called [2056.04] Jack: But I don't know where to get the you know, the antennas from and that means that there's two different types of connector [2062.12] Jack: And two different types of antenna. What's like it's all very confusing, but it's progress. Why do this? [2068.6] Jae: It's making it smaller progress [2071.32] Jae: No, it's not you cannot argue it is progress [2075.0] Jae: It's evolving [2076.2] Tony: Because yeah, all the antennas are the same length, aren't they? [2079.96] Jack: Yeah, same length same size same goddamn board. It's not like they've made the board any smaller [2088.44] Jack: Things change why don't [2090.44] Jack: Yeah, well, why don't they get rid of the jr connectors? That's what the [2094.98] Jack: Xsb is for. Do you know what I mean? If they want to mess around where you have to directly solder it, you know [2100.68] Jack: I mean like why you [2103.56] Adam: Think back to the the days the apple started going no [2106.52] Adam: We're going to make the sim card slightly slightly smaller than everyone else [2110.12] Jae: Ever since these little microflies are coming about [2113.56] Jae: Since the microflies are coming out the things are getting smaller and more fun [2117.32] Jae: I mean before they were just toys [2118.68] Jae: But they're actually good little fun that you can zip around and that's the point when you can have [2122.92] Jae: Betaflight on a small spr racing evo board on a tiny little tent, you know 10 centimeter thing or less [2130.12] Jae: They are fun. No, and that's that's completely different [2133.24] Adam: That is but everything's getting that smaller compact you with your personal reasonable points [2138.84] Jack: Yeah, you know [2140.52] Jack: That's different. It's not like you know, it's not like [2144.52] Jack: It's just it's just complicating things, you know [2147.88] Jack: like [2148.68] Jack: oh [2149.24] Jack: Agree, that's the same way [2151.8] Jack: This is the same reason why we've got [2154.52] Jack: um [2155.32] Jack: Well, what is it called? Uh [2157.38] Jack: Conventional electricity like electricity goes from negative [2162.36] Jack: To positive it doesn't it goes from positive? [2165.16] Jack: Uh, yeah, yeah, it it and on our books [2173.08] Jack: It's not like i'm like it's not like nope, that's it we're gonna change it [2176.92] Jack: You know red is no longer positive. It's negative because it flows different directions. You know, why don't we just [2184.04] Adam: It is a lot harder to change physics [2187.0] Jack: Yeah, yeah, exactly and like [2189.8] Jack: You know [2190.76] Jack: Like there was nothing wrong with that connector [2193.24] Jack: Oh, you know, it's like there's nothing wrong with tony. Let's make him smaller [2197.88] Jack: You know, at least make him small enough, isn't he? [2199.88] Adam: It's like i'm gonna stand on you. I was gonna say that already happened at some point [2204.76] Tony: Look lads [2207.32] Tony: I'm gonna get angry saying are you gonna swear you won't like it when i'm angry. I'll go green [2212.2] Jae: Actually, i'll tell you what this weekend I heard [2217.16] Jae: I thought that was so funny [2219.88] Jae: That was a fantasy [2222.76] Jae: Constantly for five minutes non-stop i'm surprised you was still breathing it in a bit. Oh [2228.84] Jack: Do you know what? I merely can I say pissed pissed? [2234.36] Jack: Actually lose control of my bladder because you know how hard it is to stand up fly a quad [2241.72] Jack: and laugh [2243.22] Jack: Hysterically where all the oxygen out of your lungs gets expelled because you've got this angry 47 millenia year old [2251.14] Jack: vegan going [2253.46] Jack: screaming obscenities [2256.2] Jack: as loud as possible [2258.2] Tony: Maybe you should give us an example of it tony. I actually had a sore throat when i drove home [2265.08] Jack: So funny by me and [2267.64] Jack: Dan like I let go to try and hold on to the dam because I couldn't stand up, right [2273.48] Jack: it was just [2274.52] Jack: f and then c [2277.0] Jack: and then [2278.6] Tony: Exactly. I was sharing a flight controller all the time. Ah flight controller [2284.52] Adam: It's quite funny to listen to us trying not to swear because no one wants to [2289.88] Jae: I I was hoping someone would have that recorded that tony. Uh, [2294.2] Jack: My cord was up in the air light, but i'm not I wouldn't be surprised i'm gonna scrub through my audio [2300.52] Tony: You probably hear it above [2302.68] Jack: Above your quads and that high noise. Oh, it was so funny [2307.88] Tony: It was just so we need to do a let us drone out field day where we actually record [2313.72] Tony: Like the whole day on camera and then we can put that on here [2317.72] Jae: We will [2319.8] Jae: Led up to this swearing. What was the story behind because we'd heard like the odd bits of uh, [2325.8] Adam: Some of us some regular listeners may already know some swear words [2329.48] Adam: What we want to know is why there was swear words. Yeah [2333.32] Tony: I really can't remember [2338.52] Adam: I think it's because he's not getting enough protein in his diet to be honest [2341.66] Adam: Data [2345.66] Tony: Get protein anyway, so, uh, we've had oh [2351.5] Frank: about [2353.02] Frank: Delta hawks is going to be another outdoor event in the uk in october 2016 [2359.5] Frank: So sunday the 23rd next week from now, but if you're listening later, then not is it nixon? [2366.06] Frank: um [2367.18] Frank: Yeah next week sunday [2370.98] Jack: I've got I've got some stuff in the chat. If oh, sorry. Do I cut you off? [2376.1] Frank: No, no, I'm still here. No [2378.1] Frank: I was just going to say that you can go to delta hawks club [2381.7] Frank: slash fpv calendar dot html [2384.66] Frank: Of all things and find it there if you want to get involved in that there's also been [2390.02] Frank: a voice of doom who's been talking in the chat about uh getting a day at long hill and uh, [2396.1] Frank: for the the uh [2398.26] Frank: The sports center where we were uh, it's like sports center in school or something, isn't it? [2403.46] Frank: Um where we were the first day of because it's even nearer his house than uh forbidden valley [2411.54] Frank: Exactly, um because it's winter so you hibernate so you go even closer [2416.02] Frank: Um, and so that'll be an indoor event for like tiny weeps and stuff [2420.66] Frank: So there's been a few talks of tiny weep events and I hope they go ahead and we can have like lots of whooping [2427.46] Jack: Um, yeah, I just I just want to say I love listeners [2432.58] Jack: Because they actually help you. Do you know what I mean? You go online and you complain and whinge at tony [2440.42] Adam: And they help you whinge at tony too [2442.5] Jack: Yeah, oh antenna connected as npr has them I think and i'm like man. I forgot npr existed drone guy goes. Hi guys [2451.06] Jack: Uh, can I see this i've just joined the chat, please? [2453.62] Jack: Can you briefly recap the stream? Not sure what you guys or who's who? [2459.3] Jack: You know what you guys are talking about and who's who so sorry he says, um, i've just joined in the the radio show [2465.3] Adam: But had a definite start time. Well, I say definite [2468.5] Adam: uh [2469.38] Adam: But could you guys you know start again for me? [2473.86] Adam: Okay. Yeah, that's fine [2476.9] Adam: Do I hit music put the music on yeah, we were talking about a beaver I think it was yeah [2486.16] Jae: Listen, let's try it out [2488.16] Jae: Apparently all over the place in the youtube [2491.12] Jae: And patting on dot credit uk. Welcome. Don't think we don't do anything for our listeners [2498.96] Jack: I'm i'm jk [2500.56] Jae: Chipco everyone. All right. Yeah, i'm jack. I'm gonna really swear and then if I swear it doesn't really matter so [2507.52] Adam: i'm the hippie flyer [2509.68] Adam: I'm tony and i'm eating a salad [2512.72] Jae: I'm tony i'm windy all the time [2515.6] Jack: I imagine and i'm gonna write a book about these [2522.96] Frank: And i'm frank really confusing everyone no your robot [2528.96] Jae: Robot frank doesn't always come through [2532.96] Adam: The first half of the show will be available as a podcast in there due course [2536.72] Jack: Yeah, uh, yeah once once i'd be crazy send sends his audio in [2541.68] Jack: Does he do not send that here? [2544.4] Jack: Like two weeks later [2548.24] Jack: I might just upload it raw and just be like look if this sounds awful [2554.0] Jack: Just send an email to video [2556.4] Adam: direct all of your abuse to the following email address personal phone number street address, etc [2561.6] Jack: He's a really good guy. We really like him. Don't be too mean he's an engineer [2566.24] Jack: engineer of god and [2567.84] Jack: Don't make sure you don't give matt a hard time because we really like him as well and it's not his fault [2572.48] Jack: Maybe we should just talk to matt. Maybe i've got his email. Maybe like matt. She's actually coming on [2577.84] Jack: and uh stealing [2579.84] Jack: stealing our footage, um [2581.92] Jack: your uh [2583.68] Jack: co [2584.64] Jack: key beast [2586.38] Jack: 1985 well done generation x [2588.96] Jack: Uh, just a random question. What do you guys think about the brush little micros? [2592.48] Jack: That's definitely a j question because he's friends with nj tech [2596.16] Jack: I mean they run f3 boards, but most of them can't really fly like brushed ones brushless [2601.6] Jae: Um, sorry. I I mean to be fair though. I was zipping around the trees in the hidden valley this weekend and [2608.64] Jae: When it's a fast forward course, they're they're good fun to [2612.4] Jae: Like go through tree branches up high because they're so small [2616.0] Jae: Um, yeah, they're loads of fun, but you can't do the same macro in the same way [2620.32] Jae: You can do some flips and rolls, but it drops so much in height [2624.72] Jae: But on a 25 milli watt i've flown it in street light so I can street light, you know street fpv [2629.76] Jae: And it just opens up so many more possibilities and it's so harmless in essence [2634.32] Jae: I've actually flown it into people in car parks. They are so much fun [2637.92] Jae: And you put them in your bag take them anywhere. So the other Adam [2641.44] Frank: I know which has passed in the chat. Um [2644.48] Frank: qx 80 qx 90 [2647.12] Frank: Uh in ductrix fpv or the lt 105 which one should he get? [2653.28] Jae: I like the lc 105 [2655.28] Jae: But because there's less of the motors in the uh footage [2659.6] Jae: On the qx 90 you do see the motors and the reflection of the light [2664.8] Jae: so I prefer the [2666.4] Jae: There's a dead cap version coming out as well [2669.12] Jae: I'm gonna get the inductrix [2671.92] Jae: I know I I don't know tony. I think they were if you're going purely indoor [2676.72] Jae: I think the inductrix is better if you're going to do outdoor around trees just down your street and [2682.8] Jae: Anywhere you want to go then I think one of these ones is better. I've got a dan opton for that [2687.68] Jae: So i'm gonna I will say um nj tech did provide some awesome [2694.08] Jae: Pits and stuff because it's it's not quite the same how you might tune an old one [2698.4] Jae: And if you check out his video, there is one there setting it up on the qx 90 and it worked on the 105 [2704.08] Jae: but I [2705.12] Jae: I can't really find my 105 too much inside because it goes forward the lt 105 has a good camera angle [2710.96] Jae: You can set your camera angle [2712.64] Jae: And it's against the the frame rather up high on top [2716.72] Jae: Like it is on the qx 90 [2719.04] Jae: But for 60 pounds 50 to 60 pounds you get a small camera vtx and an uh an f3 board [2727.2] Jae: It's a no-brainer. Wow [2731.04] Frank: Link's in kirby's 1985 again said in the chat, uh, he's got prop guards, uh on his brushed one he's got [2740.08] Frank: Clipped on and that's what i've done for my qx 90 as well. I just had uh, one of [2745.76] Frank: This particular prop guard from my hubs in the next fall from when I was first applying that [2750.96] Frank: Um, it's got a nice roll cage on it as well. And yeah, it just sits nicely on the qx 90 just [2757.84] Frank: I guess being the same [2759.84] Frank: you know, uh motor distance and roughly the same major size it just clips on nicely and [2765.76] Jae: yeah, the thing is [2767.92] Jae: I think the the small micro ones do last a bit longer flight time than an inductrix [2773.28] Jae: Which is the other bonus. I mean you can easily get four minutes on these [2777.36] Jae: From a one-cell battery 600 million car [2782.3] Jack: I'm just adding some uh [2784.86] Jack: Some people in the chat and setting them as moderators because they are [2789.98] Jack: Very helpful. Uh, when son and dad, thank you so much [2794.14] Jack: This is you know, you help my mate simon simon poby [2797.74] Jack: He um, if he's listening, he will be listening at some point. Yeah, I can't believe it [2802.22] Jack: They do have that connector and for anyone listening if you bought a new [2807.02] Jack: X uh [2808.86] Jack: X4r is an mh f4 connector not an mh f anymore [2817.18] Jack: That is the smaller connector and it is completely pointless. What a waste of time who sits there and is like [2824.06] Jack: No, I don't like that perfectly working connector. That's like saying no door handle [2829.26] Jack: Let's make it smaller harder to use harder to hold [2833.1] Jae: You know and more difficult to replace your everything too. Let's winj out and jack is the host [2840.78] Jae: Oh, I totally agree with jack. Yeah, I I know but perhaps they they may change it again [2846.38] Jae: But I suppose you're gonna have a little bit of a feeling [2850.22] Tony: Mr. Neil cody me and jack here [2857.82] Adam: Somebody took the headphone socket out of my phone [2862.54] Adam: Sorry while we're fishing [2865.02] Frank: But if anyone else see we've seen news article that popped up today [2870.3] Frank: About how an off-the-shelf drone has been used in iraq by his next state to blow people up [2877.26] Adam: Didn't take long did it? No bloody hell. So [2880.7] Adam: That was all you know, tesco marmite war breaks it stuff [2885.34] Frank: and again at the end of the day the [2888.3] Frank: The headline photo like the big, you know hero photo for the top of this article [2894.86] Frank: Is a racing quads [2897.66] Frank: That's rude like the bag [2899.9] Adam: Why isn't there a phantom? [2901.9] Frank: Yeah [2903.26] Frank: Hold on [2904.3] Frank: Wait, what were you up to mr. Jonathan marcus of the bbc? What are you playing at? [2910.78] Frank: That's [2911.82] Frank: It's not the same thing at all [2914.94] Frank: Anytime that you talk about racing [2917.5] Frank: The phantom is like oh, yeah be very strong and then now when someone's used an off-the-shelf drone to deliver a presumably [2926.62] Frank: From somewhere else [2929.98] Frank: Racing drones have got the flak so to speak [2933.02] Adam: Well, it's because they look all home made don't they like terrorists [2938.3] Adam: Like you made a bomb [2940.86] Adam: You guys all look like terrorists the outsiders [2944.7] Tony: Jack does he's a big terrorist here [2950.22] Adam: Jack put your phone on he's not unmuting himself. He's on the run now. You've found him out [2956.62] Adam: All right, turns out the jack helped design and build it [2959.1] Adam: Is [2962.54] Adam: This true drama ready to see obviously this is really exciting because our listening figures are going up as various agencies around the world [2973.74] Tony: That was like bomb again bomb [2977.18] Jae: I prefer device. Yeah, but it does raise interesting points though, and that is the angle perhaps they're looking at yeah [2983.74] Jae: I still think I still think that more people more people have been saved by [2988.38] Jae: Being found by drones have been blown up by drones. Yeah [2994.3] Tony: You know consumer [3005.5] Jae: You see you have to I think link that word with other words to make them really pick up it's all about [3013.1] Jae: How I built my first [3015.5] Adam: I [3021.26] Jae: Think jack has got so furious. He's giving himself a heart attack over these connectors [3027.66] Jae: Connectors are important. God, I know but maybe not that important to his life [3032.78] Frank: Is anyone going to any of the iceries races later this year? They're like all the indoor ones. Yeah the [3039.82] Jae: UK drone show the nec. I'm tempted. Where do I where do we sign up? Oh, no [3054.3] Jae: Where do we find out more than if anyone doesn't know about these races I would go to [3063.98] Jack: 16 pounds now [3066.38] Adam: yep [3068.22] Adam: Why I do now [3070.78] Adam: Did you did you say I swear? [3072.78] Jack: Yes [3074.14] Jack: I didn't realize I went back. I was like, how can you guys not hear me? I go back up to someone muted me [3079.74] Jack: for the connectors [3081.82] Tony: I well, I [3085.66] Adam: I moved between two rooms earlier and [3088.54] Adam: Pulled my cable out that I swore extremely loudly [3091.66] Adam: But of course it pulled the cable out. So you guys didn't hear my bsm web. Hello [3097.02] Adam: Okay [3099.98] Adam: I hope to [3101.18] Jack: Yeah, I hope yeah [3103.66] Jack: I'm trying to trying to sort something out for um [3106.62] Jack: The uk drone show chatting to ollie and hopefully we'll have a little side room [3110.86] Jack: And we can wander around and grab people and interview them and stuff [3114.86] Adam: So it was fun last year, wasn't it? I wonder if it'll be [3118.22] Jack: Be watching out for more crotch shots again back. What do you mean? [3122.06] Jack: the the video [3124.94] Jack: I don't know. Actually, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm not going to pretend to know. I don't understand [3130.38] Frank: The only thing that I remember you talking about the uk drone show last year was that no one else was taking advantage of them [3138.54] Frank: You went up and were like racing around and someone powered on and you just got an image of someone's crotch [3145.34] Frank: As they were pointing the drone at their crotch [3147.66] Tony: Oh, yeah [3149.82] Tony: into the wires didn't you into the [3152.78] Adam: Yeah, what do you say taking advantage of I mean how many interesting crotches were there in that room [3159.74] Jack: No, we're taking about [3162.14] Adam: So we're scheduled at the same time as the clothes show [3166.46] Adam: Yes [3167.66] Adam: again, there's going to be swarms [3170.7] Jae: So apparently we have an update from gucci fpv in the chat [3174.62] Jae: He's saying the uk drone show is filled up. Um, but the registration for insomnia i series will be open soon. So [3181.82] Frank: Like shall I uh, shall I play us out? Um, you can carry on for the after show if anyone wants to hang around for that [3188.3] Frank: um [3189.34] Frank: Yeah [3192.94] Frank: Yeah, so we're all going bye everyone [3202.46] Jack: Thanks for chimney just cost me 16 pound. Oh, yeah [3209.5] Jack: Tony i'm gonna stab you [3211.82] Jack: That was awesomely time today. Welcome