=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 102 ===
Title: LDO Ep102 - MenaceRC
Recorded: 2017-08-10
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Greg "Menace" Spencer
Total audience: 2,099
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52mETJGWfRc); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/375515576-letsdroneout-ldo-ep102-menacerc.m4a)
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Announcing some new gear from MenaceRC

web; http://menacerc.co.uk
Bandicoot Antenna 5.8Ghz Linear Patch
http://menacerc.co.uk/product/bandicoot-antenna-5-8ghz-linear-receiver-patch

Let's drone out is;
Jack - https://www.youtube.com/user/brightontillifly
NJ - https://www.youtube.com/user/neiljonesguitar
Tony - https://www.youtube.com/user/TheTonstar1
Frank
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfhaKilBilC3aNwxZJ9u4Rg

Guest;
Greg Spencer- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKAHpqGi6XzzrQy8YizBaWQ

show Notes

Andrew Mcneil (YouTube)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHqwzhcFOsoFFh33Uy8rAgQ

[0.69] Jack: Let's drone out
[4.57] Tony: Hey
[8.79] Frank: Who's gonna introduce us good evening and welcome to let us join outs tonight's there is me Frank
[16.09] Frank: There is Jack. He's on the phone. I know he's muted because he's on the phone. Say hello, Tony
[22.73] Frank: Sup, please. I'm sorry
[25.89] Frank: Menace RC
[27.59] Jack: Hello
[29.05] Jack: Greg who's clearly an alcoholic?
[32.45] Jack: I've never told you cup of tea mate have a swing. It's all right. I'm on the red again. And Frank
[46.75] Tony: Frank is not there anymore. I
[49.57] Tony: Don't know what's going on tonight. We've got gremlins again. They wouldn't be let's turn out without them
[55.47] Tony: No
[56.73] Tony: It wouldn't you're really white Jack. Hey feeling
[60.73] Jack: Not amazing they gave me a load of drugs
[64.65] Jack: In my junkie arm. Look at it. I look like a junkie
[68.77] Jack: I feel really weird
[70.85] Jack: I'm definitely not all
[73.29] Jack: There like more than usual
[79.33] Jack: I'm
[80.73] Jack: I wish we had someone to fill in
[84.05] Jack: But yeah, I'm here. I know plus I was a little bit excited for
[87.97] Jack: As well, I I've missed him a little menace. I remember
[95.25] Jack: Where were we Greg?
[97.53] Jack: Western Park. Yeah, that was it and I chat with him and Andy RC and a bit painless
[103.57] Jack: Look at me name-dropping
[106.73] Jack: Tone you are right. I am way white and I is that better
[111.81] Tony: Yeah
[114.17] Tony: I think it's just a lamp
[116.65] Jack: No, I'm got the lamp on the lamps never on that's just a
[121.49] Tony: I'm looking at you know, I sit here and look out my window now again the the
[128.77] Tony: The Sun's going down in a different a
[132.89] Tony: Different place dimension now, it's weird
[136.81] Tony: anyway, man, it's RC
[139.49] Jack: Yes
[140.93] Tony: You're our guest tonight
[142.09] Tony: So we should be talking to you not writing on about a lot of rubbish like we do
[146.97] Tony: But this is their own out
[149.29] Jack: Do you listen to any of the other episodes or do you just?
[154.73] Jack: Have you only listened to the one you you're in?
[158.81] Greg: Hey me
[161.21] Greg: Me yeah, I've had a listen to a few of them, but yeah, maybe the one I was in. Yeah, sorry
[168.85] Frank: I
[170.93] Tony: Said quite a few listens actually, I think 700 and something on SoundCloud so not bad
[177.17] Tony: Plus it's do it also on Apple iTunes. So there's probably more on that
[184.89] Tony: Amazing which is it's pretty good fruit because it's such a niche market. We're all in anyway. It's not exactly
[192.01] Tony: big at the moment
[194.13] Jack: David
[196.89] Tony: Getting bigger so
[199.25] Tony: Sorry, we've got you've got some new stuff to talk about you want to talk about any of your new goodies because we like your old
[205.65] Tony: Goodies, maybe you should talk about your old goodies now. So that's going first and then talk about your new goodies
[210.37] Greg: Okay, we'll talk about that
[213.33] Greg: so
[215.13] Greg: yeah, we started out with the invader the patch and
[220.61] Greg: That was it's I think it's coming up about a year old now the patch
[226.57] Greg: and
[228.57] Greg: It is just doing phenomenally. Well, I
[232.69] Greg: Mean, it's a great. It's a great patch. I think most people have used it love it and
[238.17] Greg: It's it's reaching out to a lot of places now around the world and it just seems to be every time I
[246.77] Greg: baby
[249.25] Greg: Yeah, you look on YouTube or something like that at a race or something and you just see these little
[254.57] Greg: Menace and beta patches
[256.61] Tony: It's amazing. Yeah, it must be cool seeing it all around the world. Oh
[262.21] Greg: Absolutely. I still can't believe
[264.93] Greg: That a little antenna like that has done so well in the FPV industry. I
[270.69] Tony: Think it's because it works out. Well when the price is bloody good
[276.65] Greg: Yeah, well, you know like like we said when I was on before it was it's always about
[281.81] Greg: Making a good quality product at an affordable hobby price
[287.41] Greg: You know
[288.89] Greg: That's what menace tries to do all the time and I think we achieved it quite well with the invader agreed
[296.97] Tony: Yeah, I use I use your pagoda and your patches on my
[305.93] Tony: Clear view and
[308.85] Tony: To be honest
[310.21] Tony: My your patches work better than the pagoda on the clear view at the moment
[315.57] Tony: But now I am actually testing one pagoda and one patch which worked really well last week
[324.69] Tony: The guy at clear view said people would actually
[328.73] Tony: He says in his thing you need to the same but now he's actually saying maybe people are finding it better with pagoda and a patch
[336.21] Tony: So last week I'll run your pagoda and a patch and it was perfect on the on the track
[341.93] Tony: And I've also done a high altitude flight with just your patch flew behind me and everything. It was perfect
[349.25] Tony: It's really good. So with the spot
[351.77] Jack: I didn't go above the legal limit. It's not right Tony exactly right there Jack. Thank you
[359.53] Jack: You know, you know the guy who made the menace
[362.85] Jack: who are
[365.49] Jack: I'm the Eddie Martin. Yeah Martin. He came out with something else, isn't it?
[370.77] Jack: The sort of way that you've got two connectors and you could screw
[375.65] Greg: For left and right. Yeah, he's come out with a
[380.21] Greg: They call it a triple feed patch
[384.25] Greg: Really it's like to do even though there's only two inputs to draw feed patches
[389.25] Greg: and yeah, you can select your left hand or your right hand in the
[394.21] Greg: In the same patch just by putting your connector in
[398.53] Greg: It's quite a quite a neat
[401.17] Jack: Design there these come up with on that. Have you done anything with it? Have you tried it with you?
[407.33] Greg: No, we're making some to test out and see what see what they're like and how they perform
[414.97] Greg: Things
[416.25] Greg: you know, I think
[418.37] Greg: Having switchable left to right is a good idea. But I also think the concept of the patch
[425.49] Greg: With a single connector would probably be a more
[431.09] Greg: Desirable thing in the marketplace because most most guys have either gone down a right hand route or they've gone down a left hand route and
[439.41] Greg: There's only a few guys that have got a selection of both
[443.17] Greg: I don't know if you find that the same of you guys if you're lefties or righties
[449.05] Tony: Jack's Jack's
[451.05] Tony: He only left the amongst us everyone just went down the righty route because it was just the thing to do
[457.61] Tony: Jack just likes to be different. I
[460.33] Tony: Mean, that's just it
[463.13] Jack: It's good. I
[464.97] Jack: Prefer, you know, like the thing is as well. Everyone sells out the right hand and Dennis
[469.97] Jack: And there's always some left hands kicking around and no one's and I'm just like I just hoover those up and it's fine
[476.53] Jack: And like everyone flies all right, so I've got a better rejection against all the right ease. I
[482.69] Tony: Think it's a good idea
[484.53] Tony: Good idea for racing and stuff like
[488.17] Jack: Plus I'm left-handed and so is Andy RC
[491.89] Jack: But he ruins it by being a mode one
[495.73] Jack: Mode one boy, isn't he? Oh God, what the hell bloody no, I think he's right hand patch as well
[503.61] Jack: Does he does?
[506.45] Tony: The Australian something
[510.85] Jack: And so you gave Tony a linear patch, I'm sorry he milked you again he's like that
[519.61] Jack: Milking you for everything he can
[523.13] Jack: I'm only bringing that up because I'm glad Tony got some stuff
[527.09] Jack: But I know it'll annoy someone but yeah
[531.13] Tony: The bandicoots I've just played with them tonight
[534.73] Tony: They're really cool
[536.37] Greg: so
[538.77] Greg: Well, we're on patches
[541.89] Greg: Yeah, the invader is done done really well, but then I was noticing a lot of guys were using
[548.29] Greg: micro drones and tiny work drones and
[551.89] Greg: They were trying to reduce the weight by taking off the clover antennas and putting the little whip antennas on there
[559.93] Greg: And you know really cutting the weight down, but they've gone over to linear
[565.21] Greg: Whilst they had linear on their drone
[568.13] Greg: they
[569.53] Greg: They were still using their existing antennas to receive their circular polarized antennas
[576.37] Greg: and
[578.65] Greg: When you you sort look at the signals you're using mixed linear and
[585.77] Greg: circular polarized signals
[588.37] Greg: You get a about it's about a three decibel
[592.49] Greg: Dropping signal so whilst they're probably flying these things and they're getting a very good signal as is
[599.69] Greg: They're losing 3 DB now every 3 DB you lose you're effectively. It's a half of the power
[608.01] Greg: So if you've got your tiny tiny work with a 25 milliwatt VTX
[615.09] Greg: It's effectively a 12 and a half watt
[618.53] Greg: Milli, sorry 12 and a half milliwatt VTX because you've mixed the signals you've lost your 3 DB
[624.41] Greg: That's when I was thinking I need to try a linear patch
[629.97] Greg: so I just started making a few linear patches here in the lab and
[636.17] Greg: I was quite surprised that you know getting your 3 DB back and I was on my drone
[641.85] Greg: I was getting about 40% further range
[646.37] Greg: So that was just by using it's basically using the right tool for the job
[653.49] Greg: So a few tweets later and yeah come up with the
[658.89] Greg: The bandicoot a linear patch I've just tried them all I can say is
[667.58] Jack: like crash bandicoot
[669.58] Tony: That was quite a good impression actually Jack
[672.82] Jack: Yeah, I know Andrew's back by the way. Hello Andrew
[677.1] Jack: Hello
[678.54] Jack: What happened with your sound card?
[681.02] Frank: well because YouTube hangouts on there needs
[686.5] Frank: HD what
[689.7] Tony: Andrew
[692.02] Tony: Boy, but now we can actually see him and hear him. I've lost the top of my
[697.74] Jack: screwdriver because
[699.74] Jack: Excitement, sorry
[702.42] Frank: Yeah, so hangouts on there
[704.54] Frank: the
[706.14] Frank: Let's draw now account
[707.98] Frank: Because I had that muted because I wasn't using it because I was using my own account. It was like ah
[712.98] Frank: It's silent. There's no one speaking. So I can't let you go live
[717.34] Frank: so then I had to switch everything over so that I wasn't on my account and I was on the let's turn out account and then
[723.7] Frank: Set it up on there and convinced it that there was someone talking and that we could go live. So that was
[731.5] Jack: Yeah, it's the worst but I hate running dual the thing it's the worst I hate it
[740.9] Frank: Like I did last week and have the theme tune playing through the let's join out account and then it'll know that there's something coming
[748.42] Frank: Yeah, have we got the same team to play us out tonight? I can set that up
[753.18] Frank: I'll be fiddling about with that in the backgrounds. Hey, that's good. Good
[757.9] Tony: Watch out. I've tried your crash bandicoot
[765.86] Greg: That you know, that's gonna be the nickname now, isn't it? Yeah, they're gonna say I put a bandicoot on and I crashed
[778.58] Greg: Don't know there's a few of us we were just banks and a few names around and
[783.3] Greg: It just sort of I don't know it just kind of happened really
[789.82] Tony: Some I
[791.62] Tony: Like that. I like the fact that you've gone with a different name and a different color and things like that
[796.02] Greg: So yeah, it was to sort of differentiate the patch just to make sure it you know people yeah at a glance
[802.5] Greg: You know if you're picking up your linear or you're picking up a circle of polarized from the Menace range. Yeah
[808.82] Tony: Well, they're all gonna be hopefully you'll be selling them
[813.98] Tony: Turning out soon because everyone's well feels like winters already here
[818.98] Tony: Doesn't it in a place it because it's been chud for the last four weeks
[823.78] Tony: And I was just gonna say, you know, everyone's gonna be flying their tiny whoops and stuff and most of them now. I've got
[830.54] Tony: linear whip antennas, I've
[833.14] Tony: I've tried it tonight as I say and was flying through the house and out the window and out of front and it was
[840.1] Tony: Seem to be working. Well
[843.1] Tony: So I'm I'm quite impressed. So it's thumbs up from me
[847.46] Jack: No, thank you
[849.98] Jack: You know, there's there's a stream for kittens
[853.3] Jack: You can watch a stream for tiny kittens six tiny rescued orphan kittens
[864.66] Jack: Tiny kittens calm tiny kittens HQ
[873.1] Jack: I like kittens
[875.86] Tony: When I get older
[878.9] Tony: If anyone wants to not look like Greg we always go up to off-topic
[884.9] Jack: People like it when we go off-topic
[891.86] Jack: Yeah
[895.38] Jack: Antenna there's a bloke you like make stuff
[899.14] Jack: And it is
[901.66] Jack: Who makes stuff in a shed somewhere. I
[907.34] Jack: Know he does like loads of stuff
[911.18] Jack: His names
[913.66] Jack: Is it I don't know. I don't know what his name is. He does the cantina
[919.9] Jack: Andrew Nikkal
[922.78] Jack: Yeah, there he is
[925.42] Jack: Sorry, I'm just having a look so I just wanted to like find something to like send to
[931.9] Jack: Menace and be like here man. Do you fancy trying this out?
[936.82] Jack: Well, I was gonna say you want built personally get
[941.82] Jack: maybe
[944.9] Jack: Have you seen the 5.8 wave slot was it is this on this guy's channel? Yeah
[954.3] Jack: I
[955.66] Jack: Post it here
[957.26] Jack: Post and yeah, man. I just there's all kinds of different types of antennas and
[963.18] Jack: I quite like it and there's just this antenna or one. It's a
[969.3] Jack: Yeah, that by quad. Yowgie antenna
[972.94] Frank: Is it yaggy?
[974.62] Jack: Yaggy
[975.94] Jack: Yeah, I give a
[978.58] Jack: That's
[981.3] Greg: Tony I know I know yes. Yep
[986.38] Jack: Andrew Andrew McNeil. Yes. Yeah, man, guys are legend
[991.1] Greg: he's he's um
[994.54] Greg: Yeah, he's built loads of stuff in his sort of like little lab at home, isn't he? Yeah
[1002.52] Greg: I'm sorry
[1004.56] Greg: He hasn't he hasn't posted for about six months now. I have nothing to happen to him
[1011.5] Jack: But what do you think of this?
[1014.5] Jack: No, it's 2.4. Darn it
[1017.82] Frank: Well zero reckons you should call it banjo kazooie
[1023.35] Tony: Can you great can you tell us about could you a little package together?
[1031.74] Tony: so people could buy not just by your menace patch and
[1036.1] Tony: your
[1037.42] Tony: Pagoda they can buy a
[1039.74] Tony: Little box set currently which I found I thought was a really good great idea
[1044.98] Greg: Yeah, well, um
[1047.02] Greg: What we noticed when we when we had the pagoda as well, we had the on these
[1051.86] Greg: People were buying from the website and they were buying
[1056.18] Greg: An invader and a couple of pagodas whether they were buying the normal length or the stubby, you know, it was a mix
[1064.22] Greg: But we were also getting quite a lot of questions from people with different styles of goggles
[1069.1] Greg: You know like the the box goggles
[1072.58] Greg: I think they put RP connectors on them and
[1075.46] Greg: and
[1077.06] Greg: Some of them connect at the front of the goggles some of them connect on the top of the goggles
[1083.18] Greg: so
[1085.62] Greg: Basically after a discussion with
[1089.3] Greg: Neil I drain
[1092.54] Greg: He was saying to me well, why don't you do a pack and in the pack have your
[1100.34] Greg: Antennas so someone who's starting out they can just buy the pack knowing that you've got everything to go
[1108.1] Greg: so
[1109.3] Greg: Yeah, I took that idea and then looked at all the goggles on the market and made sure we put in the pack all the connectors
[1115.42] Greg: That you are likely to need with the current offer and a goggles at the time
[1122.5] Greg: So anyone starting out by the pack and you know, it's gonna fit your quad it's gonna fit your goggles and
[1128.7] Greg: All the antennas are gonna work together
[1131.7] Greg: greatly
[1132.78] Tony: So yeah, we put the antenna back. Well done Neil and well done you we love Neil. Well, I'd rain
[1144.1] Tony: Bless him but we we do love Neil what
[1148.82] Greg: What's what's in the package and how much is the package right in the pack you get an invader our patch
[1157.58] Greg: You get a one of the stubby
[1161.78] Greg: Pagodas you get a normal length pagoda you also get a
[1170.18] Greg: Flex extension which is made out of RG 402, which is for 5.8 gigahertz you get a 45 degree
[1179.46] Jack: Connector
[1183.7] Jack: Sorry
[1186.58] Jack: You could use that first 2.4 as well if you wanted our G4o
[1194.66] Greg: But it stretches it goes up quite nicely up to 5.8 if you
[1199.58] Greg: And cables some cables when you get to about 3 gigs
[1204.94] Greg: They're terribly lossy. So yeah, we let the cables it suitable for the job
[1212.42] Greg: And also you've got you convert if your RP to SMA
[1218.26] Greg: In there as well and a couple of the little spinners, you know for tightening up your SMAs in that I love them
[1224.5] Tony: It's little spinners
[1228.66] Jack: I'm surprised you actually haven't got them on your nipples. Jack. I might I might get some tattoo with the little sign that says property of Tony
[1237.42] Tony: I
[1244.06] Tony: Greg the your stubbies how popular are they? I think they're
[1248.7] Tony: But really really good antenna. They're
[1251.86] Tony: really good in crashes and they're just
[1255.1] Tony: Such a good size. Are they doing better than the normal pagodas or
[1260.86] Tony: Yeah, well buying one pagoda for their goggle and stubby for them. I
[1266.62] Greg: Think that the normal length pagodas. I think they're more popular for the goggle end
[1273.3] Greg: Or some people putting them on FPV planes, but yeah, the stubby is definitely the most popular
[1282.06] Greg: At the code is that we do it purely because it you know, it's shorter it's more robust and
[1288.54] Greg: It's better for sort of erasing drains and things like that
[1293.58] Tony: Cool cool
[1294.86] Tony: Yeah, you got any more stuff in the pipeline. I know we talked about the bandicoot
[1299.58] Tony: Maybe we should talk about that a bit more, but you got anything else in the pipeline
[1304.86] Greg: I've got quite a few things that I'm always working on
[1311.02] Greg: I
[1312.82] Greg: absolutely love
[1314.5] Greg: Experimenting so anything that you know grabs an interest or I think I can do it better
[1320.1] Greg: I
[1321.14] Greg: Get and just make some and just get stuck in and build it and try it out
[1325.9] Greg: Half the time it doesn't make it to the light of day
[1329.02] Greg: You know, you've got to do all these experiments to find out
[1333.02] Greg: What is good and what is not good?
[1336.94] Greg: But yeah a lot of my time is doing that that kind of experimentation
[1343.78] Greg: So, yeah, there's quite a few things in in the pipeline and
[1350.82] Greg: We may have
[1353.14] Greg: Another new product by the end of the year
[1356.42] Greg: Because we've had some promising results on something. I'm working on
[1360.5] Greg: But I'm not going to share it today
[1365.46] Tony: Drink more of that tea, but then you might tell us
[1372.78] Tony: Well, it sounds I mean all your products are really good so we look forward to that I was thinking is there any way
[1380.02] Tony: You could because I fly a wing and I'm just trying to trying to do a long-range
[1386.3] Tony: wing flights and
[1388.98] Tony: It always just use a normal pagoda or something on my wing
[1392.7] Tony: I was just wondering if there's any way you could put four patches
[1397.5] Tony: No one that way one that way one that way and on that way
[1401.22] Tony: So, you know, they're all stuck together and whatever way you are because patches work better than
[1408.06] Tony: Other than the bagodas don't they a long-range and
[1411.94] Greg: Yeah, it's interesting that because you know that the patch is a higher gain
[1419.02] Greg: Antenna than the
[1421.58] Greg: Than the bagodas
[1423.78] Greg: Obviously, they're very directional. So I think what you're saying there is you put them
[1428.46] Greg: So all the directions make up a 360 is that the sort of thing?
[1433.14] Tony: Yeah, cuz I mean when I'm flying away from with my plane
[1435.98] Tony: I use two patches on my ground station, but I'm going quite far hmm and
[1442.5] Tony: You know, I just wondered is there any way you could stick for so they all face
[1450.29] Greg: Yeah, yeah
[1453.09] Tony: Is that possible would it work
[1456.57] Greg: It could be an experiment
[1459.77] Greg: Off the top of my head
[1462.21] Greg: Anything's possible and anything could work whether it's actually something that would be quite powerful
[1469.81] Greg: Yeah, you know that to actually do that and get your four antennas connected you're gonna have to have a network
[1477.93] Greg: connecting the
[1480.17] Greg: Connecting the four antennas together. So it's all balanced and they're all receiving the right
[1487.09] Greg: Power and everything like that and they're all in phase. So yeah
[1492.17] Greg: It seems quite straightforward. But yeah, it's quite quite an effort to get all four to work together
[1500.81] Jack: Something someone done online did you did you check out the oh, what was it called?
[1508.29] Jack: Look, oh
[1510.25] Jack: God, you know
[1512.09] Jack: I'll be king had it. It was like basically with a load of that was on the ground
[1516.81] Greg: the overlord
[1518.65] Jack: Yeah, overlord. Yeah
[1522.45] Greg: Yeah, no, I haven't used one but yeah, I can see the prints for your wings
[1529.49] Tony: Well, we'd be a bit heavy with it Jack. Come on
[1532.97] Jack: Well, you know
[1534.57] Jack: You like it like that?
[1536.89] Jack: You could do it see see how it works test it
[1542.49] Tony: I'm willing to test anything from menace RC because it's all the thinking is done for me. I just put it on and test it
[1550.77] Tony: My idea was that the wing side of things it would be good to have four patches going each
[1559.09] Jack: Beach way because minutes. I want you to develop this thing off with you now
[1568.33] Tony: I
[1571.45] Tony: Just wondered would it ever work
[1574.09] Jack: For if it's if it's gonna be too hard and maybe I want you to get a unicorn instead of a horn
[1581.77] Jack: And I want to ride it was right before we get PV
[1587.93] Tony: It was it was an idea that just I just had and just wondered if it would be visible that's all yeah
[1600.18] Greg: Sorry, hey
[1602.18] Greg: How far are you looking to achieve with your wing?
[1607.26] Tony: Well, I don't know. I mean them with the right with the right set up on five point eight
[1612.5] Tony: You can you can do you know, I've seen people do
[1617.66] Tony: far
[1619.26] Tony: Yeah, let's say far. I mean I've done
[1622.82] Tony: two and a half miles
[1624.86] Tony: on five point eight
[1626.98] Tony: But I had one I was going to see I owe you to the tags
[1640.74] Tony: I had a five-turn helical 400. Can I say that or not?
[1649.5] Tony: 25 milliwatt times a couple of milliwatts and done two and a half miles, but
[1657.14] Tony: But you know, you've got to stay in that straight line to get to get when you're that far out
[1662.54] Tony: You've got to be in that in that line
[1666.38] Jack: Yeah
[1677.24] Jack: I'm sure he's gonna write dot dot dot together at the same time
[1683.0] Jack: Probably he's an animal. I know I miss you rich man. I'm sorry. I'm being round. I just think fucking hell
[1688.92] Jack: I've been I'm yawning. I've had a
[1692.08] Jack: bloody MRI scan. I
[1694.56] Jack: Can't actually feel my insides. Um
[1697.44] Jack: It's the strikers, right?
[1699.8] Jack: Hashtag CAI. Yeah, pretty much. I think so. I didn't get my butthole fingers by nurse
[1706.6] Tony: Let's try now
[1708.28] Frank: So when when Tony first said you that minutes we're gonna come on and talk about the linear patch
[1715.32] Frank: And I was asking about why would you want a linear patch?
[1719.12] Frank: I mean presume I presumed it was just purely for the microbes like you said
[1723.08] Frank: But tiny was also saying that a load of races have been going from the secular polarize to linear antennas
[1731.24] Frank: on the you know 250 races or 200 to 250
[1736.88] Frank: just to to save the weight and
[1740.96] Frank: And then I've just seen in the past week the
[1745.28] Frank: Lumineer
[1746.8] Frank: Axi antennas in person for the first time
[1749.96] Frank: And seeing the the weight difference that there is between just shedding the entire
[1756.36] Frank: SMA adapter and just going from the ufl on the on a unify. That's a vtx
[1762.32] Frank: straight to the to the antenna does seem like a big chunk of
[1767.68] Frank: Metal to be shedding from the
[1770.68] Frank: From the quads. Is that anything that men are still going to be looking to be doing anytime soon with any of their antennas?
[1793.05] Greg: We're looking we're looking at all sorts, but yeah the ufl connectors is a very
[1798.97] Greg: popular approach at the moment
[1802.29] Greg: Purely, yeah, you're getting rid of that chunk of SMA
[1806.09] Greg: Metal which obviously is a weight
[1809.29] Greg: On on the drone, especially, you know with everyone weight conscious
[1816.05] Greg: The thing the things we're sort of up against at the moment with the pagoda style
[1823.57] Greg: Antenna if we were going to put a ufl straight onto that
[1828.45] Greg: I think we would just be moving a
[1832.41] Greg: problem down to the vtx because the cables used on the pagoda are quite
[1838.61] Greg: It's a semi rigid cable
[1842.17] Greg: So
[1844.17] Greg: Whilst yeah, you could do it. I think we're going to cause a problem on vtx's
[1850.93] Greg: We are at various ufl options
[1856.49] Greg: But I would say the immediate thing that we are looking at is the receiving end
[1863.85] Greg: because there are some very good very good antennas out there and
[1868.45] Greg: For the for the drone end and there's there are quite a few ufl ones out there already
[1875.09] Greg: some being linear linear whips linear V's and then obviously the the very small
[1882.73] Greg: Ufl circular ones that we see as well
[1886.09] Greg: but yeah, I think you know what what you'll see from us is on the receiving end and then we will
[1893.85] Greg: We will hopefully be a bit further along the road with our ufl
[1898.29] Frank: Offering we'll look up look out for that then because yeah looking at the the axes. I know what you're saying like if if that gets
[1906.17] Frank: tagged on a
[1909.49] Frank: Gate or something that could do a fair bit of damage to vtx
[1914.45] Frank: That is because all the the air the coax is all pretty much structural in that. It's holding the air the actual antenna
[1922.41] Frank: radiating bit out in the air somewhere
[1926.01] Tony: Yeah, I think that's why most of the rock
[1929.21] Tony: Racing with the linear more more that more so than the way is the is the crash the crashing
[1935.65] Frank: Yeah, I was wondering if maybe the the actual that antenna bit the you know with the radiating bit inside it
[1942.97] Frank: If that could have some way of having a little
[1946.93] Frank: hole for a zip tie or something like that so the actual structural bit is on that lump out there whether it was you know
[1953.49] Frank: screwed to the
[1955.93] Frank: To the frame or zip tied to the frame or something like that
[1959.21] Frank: So the actual yeah that gets caught is all the
[1963.21] Frank: Stress is through that bit and directly to the frame without going through the coax and the vtx
[1969.29] Frank: That's what I'd be looking out for
[1971.29] Greg: Yeah, yeah, absolutely
[1973.49] Greg: the
[1974.69] Greg: you do because I think
[1977.01] Greg: The thing is we've always looked at the antennas and you want them to have the best
[1982.37] Greg: Performance you want to be able to have the furthest range the clearest signal
[1986.13] Greg: But I think when you come down to racing, you're not actually going that far. You've got good
[1993.05] Greg: actual
[1994.41] Greg: Rejection then, you know, you're not really wanting a high gain antenna on on your drone
[2001.21] Greg: Get round your your race course and I've seen a lot guys
[2005.97] Greg: They're mounting the you know, the the active part of the antenna right then in the frame and that's
[2013.65] Greg: Probably something, you know that you're sort of touching on there whether whether you have a specific which you can make down in the frame
[2019.53] Greg: But it's got the fixings to fix
[2022.41] Greg: The weighty part to the frame. It's that's a good idea
[2026.69] Tony: so
[2030.55] Tony: minutes gonna do any bigger patches for wings the receiving ends and for higher DB's or
[2037.67] Tony: Anything like that. I mean I have flown with both two minutes patches and they work fine, but I'm just wondering
[2045.31] Tony: Is there anything in a pipeline to make a bigger so we can go further? I know it
[2049.79] Tony: Is it right? It will be a narrower beam the bigger the patch kit
[2054.39] Greg: It sort of works
[2056.99] Greg: As far as antennas go on the receiving side as you go up in game
[2063.15] Greg: You tend to have a narrower beam width and that tends to be true on all the different topology of
[2071.23] Greg: Antennas that right there. I mean you look at helical
[2075.67] Greg: Antennas and I think they range from three turns up to
[2080.55] Greg: 12 turns or 15 turns or something like that and their gain ranges from 7 to about 12 DB
[2088.71] Greg: But you will notice the more turns you have on a helical the much narrower that theme weight gets
[2097.51] Greg: Yeah, I think you know long range but if you're going long range the further out you go
[2103.63] Greg: Because your beam gets wider the further you go out
[2108.31] Greg: You have got a bit of it more room to play with there
[2111.99] Greg: okay, so a careful selection of antennas on diversity or on your clear view and
[2119.43] Greg: You might find that that would get you quite a long way. I've seen
[2124.31] Tony: I've seen
[2131.03] Tony: I've seen
[2133.11] Tony: 5.8 goes like 10 kilometers probably even further than that if you've got the right antennas
[2140.39] Greg: Yeah
[2141.91] Greg: Absolutely. I mean, yeah, we're working on receiving end stuff and we're working on high high gain stuff as well
[2149.87] Greg: And hopefully we'll have
[2152.11] Greg: One of these ready by the end of the year
[2155.67] Greg: before the end of the year
[2157.75] Greg: Cool cool. So yeah
[2161.63] Tony: You might tell us some more stuff
[2166.11] Jack: Has he been playing with dipoles? I don't know asking hello
[2175.34] Jack: Dipoles you're gonna do any 2.4 stuff for the tyrannics because a lot of people have done the tyrannics
[2181.46] Greg: On the Toronto side on the 2.4. Yeah, I had a look at some of that and
[2189.89] Greg: To be fair, I've coined at the moment. I've kind of stuck on the FPV side of things
[2196.21] Greg: that's kind of where
[2198.69] Greg: I'm getting you know, the most
[2202.69] Greg: It's the most interesting for me and I think I've got you know a few things
[2208.37] Greg: Yeah, I think will help the FPV
[2213.57] Greg: Area, I mean on the on the tyrannis side of things. There's quite a few
[2219.09] Greg: Good products out there, isn't there?
[2222.49] Greg: Already for getting a much further range with your tyrannics
[2226.33] Tony: But I know I know of two mods but quite a lot of people do the mods and and end up mucking up their tyrannis
[2232.61] Tony: There's the I'd be crazy
[2235.33] Tony: Little looks like a coat hanger Jack. I think you've got one
[2242.61] Tony: And then there's the big mod, yeah that thing
[2248.61] Greg: Yes, yeah, it's already you have to rip your
[2252.61] Greg: Tyrannis apart and get inside and do the actual mod itself and there's been
[2257.53] Greg: Isn't there?
[2259.53] Tony: People trash in the tranis. Yeah, that's it. There's a lot of stories of people doing it
[2264.97] Tony: Yeah, Mikey dreads in the chat and he said he's messed. He's up twice doing
[2271.13] Tony: On the tranis
[2273.17] Jack: What you want to do is use Dan Upton. That sounds really good at it. What do you think of that by quad?
[2277.81] Jack: Yagi 5.8, but I put the link in our chat. Did you get it? Yes. Yes, absolutely. Yes
[2284.77] Jack: Does that do anything for you? That kind of does something for me. Yeah
[2289.21] Tony: On a little ground because it's pie
[2292.29] Jack: Huh, sorry
[2296.25] Jack: Cuz it's by
[2316.65] Jack: Is the IV crazy antenna for the tranis in your hand? Yes, it is
[2323.39] Jack: Joshua bardwell said more than they make it in our PSMA and that's what I had to do. I had to take
[2330.55] Jack: Mine apart so to cut the heat shrink off these order it put a new one on
[2336.99] Tony: It just looks like a coat hanger didn't it
[2341.11] Jack: Leave it a full row to with some bike braid cable around it
[2347.07] Jack: And then there's some sort of weird fold there
[2350.39] Tony: Does it have to be the right size and things like that then? Yeah, of course
[2353.75] Jack: I think you probably found that out Greg when you made the extended
[2358.59] Jack: Thing here to make them half a wavelength or something didn't you? Yeah. Yeah, you have to get the right legs
[2364.79] Jack: Yeah, so he's in the wavelengths. That's what it's all about. Yeah, I wish I didn't know that because
[2371.63] Jack: It's the reason why me and Tony forever single
[2377.75] Jack: So
[2380.15] Jack: UFL connectors like I've just bought some tramps
[2384.71] Jack: um and
[2388.23] Jack: I don't like ufl connectors. I don't
[2392.23] Tony: Have a little clip on that you could just clip it in. Yeah. Yeah
[2401.11] Jack: Ufo the truth is out there. That's the other side. Um
[2406.39] Jack: They just
[2408.23] Jack: Rip off be it's lost and see you have to use really tiny cable which equals more loss
[2413.43] Jack: How is it any good?
[2414.95] Jack: And then when that connection this is bad enough having something soldered directly onto it because you'd rip pads out and then fry your vtx
[2423.03] Jack: but having a ufl connector that just come on clip and then
[2427.99] Jack: Fry you don't you just flop a load of hot glue all over it. No, oh tony. That's your answer to everything, isn't it?
[2434.31] Jack: tony, you're the type of guy who
[2436.47] Jack: Would really bring a hot girl back realize she doesn't have any condoms
[2440.47] Tony: and then just
[2450.07] Tony: Sorry everyone who's listening to this back you this is like we always say a light-hearted show
[2458.07] Tony: Yeah
[2464.87] Tony: You know what i'm saying no like hot glue over it
[2485.83] Tony: Every time you every time someone's gonna pick up a bloody gun now, you know, you're just gonna think about it
[2492.79] Tony: Oh for god's sake
[2495.51] Tony: Sorry about that greek
[2501.59] Greg: We were talking about
[2503.43] Greg: Table lengths weren't we we were
[2506.87] Greg: But um, yeah, you know getting the links right on an antenna is an important thing
[2512.63] Greg: I don't know if you saw recently we put up a
[2516.87] Greg: 3d printable tool
[2519.51] Greg: Um the anyone can download it or thingy verse
[2524.39] Greg: And it's basically it's worked out
[2527.67] Greg: so that you can make a whip antenna or uh an offset v antenna
[2533.51] Greg: And all the dimensions have perfectly worked out. So you end up with
[2538.71] Greg: You know repeatability you end up with 5.8 gigahertz
[2542.55] Greg: um
[2543.59] Greg: The only reason I went and done it was because there's so many youtube videos of people
[2549.03] Greg: um
[2550.07] Greg: showing how to make
[2551.75] Greg: Uh the whip antennas and they're all sort of quoting dimensions and things
[2557.59] Greg: And they're all measuring them from different points on the coax. I thought well
[2562.15] Greg: Let's make it all
[2564.07] Greg: And uh, let's give it away for free. So, um, that's out there if anyone wants to download it
[2569.75] Greg: Where can I find that?
[2571.43] Greg: That's on thingy verse
[2573.59] Greg: Um, if you just hop on thingy verse and search, uh menace antenna tool
[2579.59] Greg: It should pop up
[2584.92] Tony: Sorry jack didn't hear that are they bias can you turn your mic up jack or turn yourself up? Well frank
[2592.6] Jack: Frank has to give me controls frank turn him on a little bit i'm getting there
[2600.55] Tony: And and make sure you can turn him down as well
[2603.35] Tony: There you go. Take you to places
[2606.31] Jack: Okay, oh no, he still hasn't given me if you click give me control
[2612.39] Frank: Yeah, i've turned you up as far as you go
[2615.67] Jack: Why haven't I got the
[2617.75] Tony: We don't trust you with it jack. We talk about oc glue in particular places. So
[2623.03] Jack: That's when we need to know access to control. I don't know why my
[2628.23] Jack: Why is my sound so quiet? No, you sound good now you sound fine
[2632.55] Greg: You sound lovely
[2634.23] Jack: Okay
[2635.51] Tony: I just know that you remember your question now
[2639.11] Jack: Yeah, if you get you know how it's a v shape if you get it wrong
[2643.51] Jack: Can it be biased?
[2646.47] Greg: Um
[2648.55] Greg: Yes, you know, um
[2651.83] Greg: The v direction yeah, there's there's quite a few
[2657.03] Greg: Um antennas out there where they've got the v at the top of the cable like so
[2662.07] Greg: Whereas on the tool that we do you've got the active part here
[2665.27] Greg: And then when we do the offset v down to the side
[2669.27] Greg: and
[2670.15] Greg: basically, um
[2672.39] Greg: The ones with the v at the top the impedance is all over the place across the whole frequency range
[2679.11] Greg: So by moving it round to the position we've got it on the tool
[2683.99] Greg: Basically it levels out the impedance
[2686.55] Greg: So it's very important that you get the um the angles
[2691.35] Greg: right on
[2693.03] Greg: on the v antennas
[2696.86] Tony: So what uh, do you know these v antennas people are putting on their quads?
[2702.38] Tony: What's what's what what?
[2705.18] Tony: Of your antennas would be uh best to use
[2709.26] Greg: On the receiving end. So the v the v antenna is actually a linear antenna
[2714.38] Greg: So bandicoot we're back to the bandicoot. Yes
[2718.06] Greg: Yeah, that would that would probably be the best selection in our arsenal with many antennas
[2724.54] Tony: cool
[2725.98] Tony: so
[2727.18] Tony: Um, there's a couple of people in the chat rich
[2730.06] Tony: Rich is flying with me sunday. You need to buy some bandicoots for your antennas
[2735.26] Tony: For your goggle. Sorry because you always fly
[2738.38] Tony: linear
[2740.22] Tony: Always moaning
[2742.46] Tony: He never listens to me though, so hopefully you will
[2748.3] Tony: Ben ben rise asked greg. What can you do for long-range stuff? Oh, we just talked about
[2753.98] Tony: about that
[2755.1] Tony: Um ben, so you might
[2757.82] Tony: Have to watch this again in a minute when it's on youtube or listen to it on soundcloud. We were talking about earlier
[2765.82] Tony: um
[2766.78] Tony: Your patches go quite far to be honest. Anyway, so i've flown them um
[2772.54] Tony: Within the legal range as it were or it may be a little bit further
[2778.3] Tony: You know only a tiny bit
[2780.38] Greg: some someone
[2783.42] Jack: Speaking of illegal stuff, um
[2786.7] Jack: Dan upton, uh
[2788.7] Jack: Was chad to me and he said that you know the old
[2793.02] Jack: Immersion RC vtx is
[2795.98] Jack: Yeah, you know the 600 milliwatt ones. They're like the size of a tumour. Yeah the brick, you know
[2801.34] Jack: Yeah
[2805.18] Jack: When I used to buy them back in the day when I had all my teeth, um, sorry
[2812.22] Jack: Didn't have condoms. You just have to make them ourselves out of a lot of glue
[2815.42] Jack: um
[2816.62] Jack: like
[2819.58] Jack: Sorry
[2821.58] Jack: um
[2823.02] Jack: yeah
[2824.22] Jack: like
[2825.66] Jack: He said there seems to be like some sort of weird
[2829.26] Jack: It's got some sort of weird pattern in it or coding
[2832.46] Jack: like decoding or something in
[2835.18] Jack: In those vtxes that if you use it on anything that's like next wave, it works fine
[2839.26] Jack: but if you work use it with something that has got
[2841.66] Jack: Like the next wave decoding or something and it it's a bit sort of
[2845.82] Jack: If it has anyone else ever noticed that i'm just putting that out there
[2851.5] Tony: No
[2852.54] Tony: It worked. Well i've got one on my wing and it worked with both my menace patches
[2857.5] Tony: But I know what he's saying because I've seen
[2860.7] Tony: Yeah
[2861.98] Tony: That's what i'm saying when it when the 600 is on my wing and i'm the immersion rc 600 i use the menace patches
[2868.46] Tony: They work fine on my receiver
[2871.02] Tony: I remember
[2872.62] Tony: getting just as good range with a
[2876.3] Tony: with my old old
[2878.7] Tony: Google one just one
[2881.66] Tony: And just sticking out and it and it used to go just as far if not further
[2886.62] Tony: Yeah, I think you're right there. There is some kind of with the three what immersion has done
[2893.5] Tony: In in that vtx
[2895.98] Tony: Yeah compared to others
[2898.3] Tony: Because I remember getting the same performance. We've just yeah that next wave
[2903.74] Jack: Curry kitten said yes. I made a whole video on it. Talk to
[2907.9] Jack: sander sunset about it wouldn't work unless you have the newer 600 milliwatt
[2913.9] Jack: Can you link me curry kitten?
[2916.06] Jack: Lord help me
[2917.58] Jack: Like that. He still listens to this
[2920.46] Jack: But curry kitten. Can you come back on?
[2923.74] Jack: like one day because I felt like I
[2927.18] Jack: King shambles episode up
[2929.82] Jack: Good, you know if you were around and you wanted to hang out, that would be amazing. I'd like make up for it
[2934.62] Jack: I'll let you like shout at me
[2936.7] Frank: I'm going to like shut up jack. I didn't say john sandcloud recently jack after sunday
[2941.34] Jack: I did. Yeah, i've got i've got two little stories. I've got um
[2946.06] Jack: One if you notice if you download that from itune
[2950.22] Jack: So, do you know his name? Can I add his name to the episode?
[2954.86] Frank: Sam i'm pretty sure it was sam
[2957.1] Frank: See i've got a shout out to sam and mike and everyone else at drone racing cornwall
[2963.34] Frank: um went up with them on on sunday and uh
[2967.9] Frank: and and they had words about
[2971.58] Frank: how
[2973.18] Frank: How behind let us drone out are on uploading?
[2976.86] Frank: Uh episodes on soundcloud. Yeah
[2980.06] Jack: Cody's always receiving jack lul
[2984.06] Tony: Are you definitely you have a go
[2986.54] Jack: He definitely won't be the bottom
[2988.54] Tony: I'm always trying to get him to hurry up and upload stuff
[2991.74] Tony: Because quite a lot of people like listening to the soundcloud stuff when they're at work or when they're building
[2998.06] Jack: so
[2999.58] Jack: I said
[3001.82] Jack: Upload sam now i'm going to change it to sam who told me to upload some episodes who lives in cornwall
[3013.18] Jack: No, it's already been uploaded and I have gotten it i've got an episode we've got chad's episode already uploaded
[3020.06] Jack: But uh, like I said on my other podcast i'm dreading it when the editor runs out of the episodes on my youtube
[3026.78] Jack: We're on our own. What do we do?
[3029.82] Jack: We need
[3031.18] Tony: We need your help people let's put a shout out. Does anyone want to edit our let's run out youtube?
[3037.82] Tony: Well, no, not even edit
[3039.9] Jack: Does anyone want to listen to the episodes?
[3044.46] Jack: like
[3045.1] Jack: email us
[3045.98] Jack: Uh, let's run out at gmail.com. Is that our email? Please tell me that's our email
[3053.18] Jack: And I always mess it up but
[3056.14] Jack: If you want email, I need a volunteer to sit there and listen to all the episodes basically listen to an episode
[3061.98] Jack: I'll give you a list of what episodes you listen to an episode
[3067.18] Jack: If timestamps have all the swearing that's all you got to do
[3071.26] Jack: Completely incorrect racist, you know what tony's like. Oh brexit tony minute six a minute 56
[3078.3] Jack: Yeah, yeah minute 56
[3080.7] Jack: like jack mentions
[3083.26] Jack: His ass or condoms and stuff like that
[3087.26] Jack: Hello chat doesn't like when why aren't you someone mod curry here?
[3092.14] Jack: Please andrew. Can you mod him? I'm sure I can manage. Yeah, we've got more mods than
[3098.06] Tony: Everyone is a mod. Yeah, don't let us post for the links in the chat
[3104.22] Tony: Like just just do it
[3107.02] Jack: All you gotta do if you want to be a mod just write a rude word in there and you're a mod
[3111.1] Jack: That's it. That's all you gotta do cows and milk
[3115.74] Tony: That's a full-time job editing I swear in yeah, you're probably right there
[3120.46] Jack: Yeah, anyone who wants to like mod daddy as well. He's a good guy and mikey he's listened to loads
[3128.22] Jack: Anyone else?
[3129.74] Frank: Just some more things. You are not everyone in the chat
[3133.18] Frank: Why not?
[3135.98] Jack: Why not have we got in this menace you ready?
[3141.11] Jack: I am reading it
[3142.79] Jack: It's from a hat tech
[3145.27] Jack: Do you want to hang on let's be the worst post
[3150.15] Jack: Hang on wait, wait, wait, wait. Hang on. We'll put it in the chat and we'll get him to read his own question
[3155.27] Greg: Ready?
[3159.35] Greg: Where we have haptic fpv
[3162.63] Jack: Yep
[3164.23] Greg: Nothing quite like it. Yeah techy question for mr. Menes. Can you?
[3170.23] Greg: Knit in the wire for cp antenna if you bend then heat it up and spring back to shape
[3178.79] Greg: I don't know
[3181.59] Greg: There you go, right
[3183.99] Greg: I will look into it and I will come back
[3188.15] Frank: So that's the memory memory shape wire something like that. Yeah
[3192.87] Tony: Yeah, it's like a memory shape mattress
[3195.83] Tony: but wire form
[3198.63] Frank: Oh my god, if you want just stick iron on it you just iron it out at the end of the day
[3205.11] Jack: That's it. Yeah, what's what's that? Um, what's that tape that they wrap a
[3210.23] Jack: wrap a car chassis
[3212.39] Jack: Around and then throw it off a cliff and it's totally fine
[3216.07] Jack: Can't you just get something about tape and cut really thin strips?
[3219.67] Tony: And then wrap it to the shape you want crashed in roswell where you could
[3225.03] Tony: Oh my god
[3228.71] Tony: Oh my god, it's true you should look into it
[3236.55] Tony: Maybe many should look into that tech
[3239.91] Jack: Yep, we're looking at
[3242.31] Tony: We can call that the roswell patch
[3244.95] Jack: Yeah roswell antenna don't encourage it mate. Don't encourage him
[3250.31] Jack: Make an antenna that's just called the tin foil hat
[3252.79] Tony: That's all he deserves
[3254.79] Tony: There was an antenna called the tin foil hat only works on the only works on the flat earth. That'd be great
[3260.63] Jack: He's hitting two bandicoots
[3262.71] Tony: Yeah, man, the old clear view. Yeah, I've got a clear view tonight. I used it tonight. It's really good
[3267.91] Tony: I was sitting in door
[3269.03] Tony: I was sitting inside my house flying out out the front and ran the house and in through the windows
[3274.87] Jack: It was worked. Perfect. They work. What really will poor Dan Upton smashed up his gopro really badly
[3282.71] Frank: Does anyone want to see a photo there? Go on quickly time
[3286.31] Frank: We've got to call time soon
[3288.31] Jack: Yeah, no worries
[3291.19] Jack: Look at the state on that
[3295.27] Jack: Yeah, look at that
[3297.83] Jack: So he's flying his wing and yeah, something happens anyone has anyone mentioned the um, um
[3305.91] Jack: Has anyone mentioned the
[3308.63] Jack: Long range system from
[3311.11] Jack: Taranis, uh free sky
[3313.51] Jack: Because I bet you feel like a total
[3317.19] Jack: Buying a um, you've you've bought a
[3320.39] Tony: Crossfire mini. I have bought a crossfire mini
[3322.87] Tony: But why do I feel like belinda because I know for ice go we're bringing one out
[3327.59] Tony: But yeah, but the the receivers are cheaper. I don't know but yeah one's better better crossfire is better
[3334.07] Frank: Yeah, so I think I i'm gonna have to like put the
[3338.63] Tony: Put the toy bush on that put the music on say thanks to greg and menace rc for coming on
[3344.63] Tony: And hopefully we can have him back when he's got some more more stuff coming out like the uh, yeah
[3350.71] Jack: He won't tell you he won't tell us anything. He's too secretive. We don't trust him anymore. He has to be secretive jack
[3356.87] Jack: Are you working with the russians?
[3359.19] Tony: He's working on the four y antenna for the wing
[3362.39] Tony: a patch
[3365.19] Jack: I love chris
[3372.07] Greg: Nice it's been brilliant having me on the show. Thank you very much. Nice. Thanks for coming on man
[3377.99] Jack: Yeah, mate
[3379.03] Greg: The bandicoots will have up on our website
[3381.67] Greg: Uh over the weekend and we'll start shipping them out on monday
[3385.67] Tony: Excellent. So, you know and to get the bandicoot if you're flying your tiny whoops
[3389.99] Tony: So if you'll whip antennas or you're writing your rhymes
[3393.99] Tony: with your hot glue on your
[3398.07] Tony: Not
[3404.79] Frank: Yeah, so so thanks greg for joining us uh i've been andrew we've had on jack
[3411.43] Frank: Say goodbye jack
[3413.51] Jack: Bye guys. Thank you for tuning in. Sorry. I'm such a little bitch
[3417.91] Frank: And we've had tony ten star one
[3420.71] Frank: please
[3422.31] Frank: You just got a little bit
[3424.23] Frank: Thanks everyone in the chat from listening rich
[3427.99] Frank: mike dread zero mighty smalls chris
[3432.31] Frank: Uh, who else have we had hat?
[3437.27] Jack: Mr. Thrust
[3438.87] Frank: Yeah, mr. Thrust
[3441.11] Frank: Uh, yeah, so thanks everyone
[3443.99] Frank: Thank you
[3445.99] Frank: See you around hopefully see you next week. Thank you. Bye telemetry loss