=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 137 ===
Title: LDO Episode 137 Grinding Tonys Butt hope this works
Recorded: 2018-04-12
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andy
Guest(s): BotGrinder, Simon "Bradderz" Bradley
Total audience: 2,939
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WZE0OhNHu8); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/435618597-letsdroneout-ldo-episode-137-grinding-tonys-butt-hope-this-works.m4a)
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[0.21] Jack: Hey guys, it's your boy Jack
[3.13] Jack: AKA Tony's daddy. Hey, man, it's his king not mine
[7.93] Jack: Unfortunately this episodes suffered a lot of technical difficulties. We think Google
[13.77] Jack: Did a big update they've added new features like the chat. There's also
[20.29] Jack: automatic
[22.73] Jack: You know bad language topic but as well
[26.89] Jack: But don't worry you guys
[28.17] Jack: I think we click no so you guys can talk about what you want to we kind of trust our audience
[34.89] Jack: We lost about 15 minutes of this. We lost things where we spoke about bottle grinder had a magnet
[44.13] Jack: Implanted into his his finger and he's got an RFID chip in his hand that he uses to open his front door
[51.69] Jack: But yeah, like I said, we lost 15 minutes of like great content. It's gonna get a bit
[61.13] Jack: Split up, you know, it won't make sense
[64.81] Jack: But like hopefully you guys can follow he's talking about freight hopping and you guys
[71.97] Jack: Know about that or don't know just whack it into YouTube. There's a guy called brave Dave. He does a really good video on it
[79.41] Jack: He travels across Canada and it's all recorded on a GoPro to though. So it's pretty crap
[85.61] Jack: but
[87.05] Jack: I've salvaged what I can so I hope you guys enjoy
[97.68] Jack: Hello, I'm really sorry about this guys
[100.68] Jack: So the first one I started didn't have a button to go live started the next one failed can't go live
[106.8] Jack: Don't know what else to do. Hey
[109.36] Jack: Are you doing careful as it's live just so, you know, okay
[116.72] BotGrinder: It's working where you go
[120.28] Jack: Wow going on it's life life
[125.72] Tony: Life is still life. Yeah. What what's what? What's who's to play?
[133.6] Jack: Google have been
[136.12] Andy: I
[137.12] Andy: Know you I only I'm getting Tony breaking up quite a lot. There's everyone else. Yeah, I know
[147.38] Jack: Google in infinite wisdom
[153.06] Jack: Basically, they look like they've been fiddling around because when I logged in today I got what I can only describe as
[161.46] Jack: Prespone and hold
[164.26] Jack: Potentially offensive messages and I was like
[168.02] Jack: Do that later. This is let's throw now. It's supposed to be the worst people to try and sell that to
[174.98] Jack: Something in the chat you can you can write whatever you want and
[183.26] Andy: Technical issues but tech no notice
[186.44] Andy: Yeah, I always wanted to do that joke
[191.12] Andy: Was that a rotor riot sticker on that bong? I never thought I'd ever say that I'm on this show
[197.08] BotGrinder: Yes, it was courtesy. Oh courtesy my chin. Thank you my chin for sending me that
[204.04] Andy: This is the show now then now right we're live this is this is the deal, right? Hey, we're ready to go
[210.6] Jack: Well, apparently we're freezing and we've got
[214.34] Andy: Are we Tony's freezing for me this show
[218.66] Jack: The beauty of YouTube streaming
[220.82] Jack: This is this is why I want to go over to twitch
[223.98] Jack: Just just putting that out there
[226.18] Andy: silence
[228.3] Jack: Yeah, I told you I like like
[231.78] Jack: twitch twitch is like nailing it and
[235.22] Jack: basically, what's happening is the
[237.58] Jack: like
[238.9] Jack: Google's
[240.22] Jack: like putting their pants and
[243.14] Jack: they're like
[245.14] Jack: yeah, you can you can now see what was on the chat and
[250.66] Andy: Okay, that makes sense. All right, let's just start like
[255.3] Andy: Yes, let's let's go we've got three viewers two viewers
[262.14] Jack: In here I've got there's loads of people chatting hey Richard hardwood is this working I'm I'm on there now and it's just
[270.58] Andy: buffering
[272.66] BotGrinder: Isn't available. Oh, maybe
[275.5] Tony: Why are we live then who says live in my?
[279.06] Jack: That looks like it's working. What's up with that delay not working cuz Tony isn't paying for a TV license
[290.18] Jack: Boy grinder, you must be like a little bit of a bad luck charm
[295.26] BotGrinder: Apparently man. I mean I will say to my credit though
[298.34] BotGrinder: I have done a few podcasts and they've gone. Well, I blame this on YouTube. I say this is completely YouTube to blame
[305.7] Tony: Well, I know that definitely changed off but
[309.14] BotGrinder: It just all freezy on my I'm like refreshing
[312.9] BotGrinder: Livestream just keeps freezing
[314.9] Andy: Someone's just said they all see groups ones working
[320.86] Tony: Yeah, I'm just I'm just it's spinning for me so I'm not yeah it is for me to do you
[330.08] BotGrinder: The way like dead band does theirs is they use OBS and zoom and then you know
[334.76] BotGrinder: Just do the screen thing on zoom and usually goes pretty quick hang out. Sometimes has issues. I remember the old
[341.12] BotGrinder: FPV life with Beck was plagued with issues because they were on hangouts
[345.12] BotGrinder: But you guys have been doing this for a while on hangouts never had a problem
[349.76] Andy: I don't think it's hangouts. That's the problem. This is working fine. I think it's the the connection between
[356.12] Andy: YouTube isn't it by the looks on it?
[359.2] Tony: Yeah, like they're blaming Trump Zuckerberg
[364.08] BotGrinder: Actually, I think it's working now on my on when I watch YouTube on my mind
[368.76] BotGrinder: What is this called on my computer when I watch it on my computer looks fine?
[373.08] Jack: Okay, better working. Yeah
[375.88] Andy: All right. Yeah, we'll be on our way to a podcast boys. Yeah, and we're only half an hour in
[385.08] Tony: We gotta get up at five
[387.32] Jack: Right, it's working. Let's run from the top available on mine. So the time is
[394.28] Jack: 2024
[395.72] Jack: cool
[399.08] Jack: Right, hello and welcome to let's go now really sorry about that
[405.08] Jack: I think I think it's cuz I think I'm gonna I'm gonna put the tin foil hat on and say that I think this
[412.16] Jack: Happened because I keep using the t-word
[416.52] Jack: Twitch
[417.72] Jack: And uh, google has got like a magical algorithm that can hear me say that. Oh, yeah now we haven't got
[426.6] Jack: Bandwidth and nothing works
[430.28] Jack: So, um, yep, uh today's episode is brought to to you by
[436.28] Jack: um
[437.4] Jack: Uh, 30 evas. Thank you so much for supporting us
[441.56] Jack: We have got a patreon and it helps pay for editing hosting
[446.52] Jack: And putting our sorry asses on soundcloud so that we can then go to
[453.32] Jack: iTunes
[454.92] Jack: Tonight we are joined by none other than my faithful wife
[460.44] Jack: Bonjour
[462.36] Jack: Hello tony, um
[464.68] Jack: We're joined by andy rc. Hello everyone
[468.44] Jack: And this is his rc channel
[470.84] Andy: No, it's definitely not
[473.24] Andy: Mine doesn't mine doesn't run as smooth as it is. Yeah, and
[477.72] Jack: Uh, our guest tonight is bot grinder
[483.08] Jack: Are you still in roto riot
[485.8] BotGrinder: What I was never in roto riot. I just hang out with roto riot. I'm in a contractor
[492.2] BotGrinder: What's your cat's name?
[494.36] BotGrinder: That's cornbread
[495.8] BotGrinder: Oh
[496.92] BotGrinder: Give five give five cornbread
[499.88] Tony: She never does it when I'm working. Oh, that's so adorable. I've only got andy andy rc on my screen
[508.76] Jack: Um, have you don't mind have you accidentally clicked on his face at the bottom?
[513.72] Jack: Is there a big white square around andy rc? No, my face is it is a big
[520.12] Andy: white square
[522.28] Andy: That's it
[526.49] Jack: so that noise you can hear occasionally if you're listening to this audio only is
[531.77] Jack: Uh, i'm watering my pants. I'm watering my pants
[535.37] Jack: While we're having this conversation
[537.93] Jack: Bot grinder's really into plants. I can make that noise too. Hang on
[543.13] BotGrinder: And I met him for the first time and then actually being on the episode was uh, new york city
[548.65] BotGrinder: We did the star wars propel thing in new york city and he invited me up there to be in an episode
[552.89] BotGrinder: Which is when I lost my quag on the train tracks and it was terrifying getting it back, but
[558.09] BotGrinder: That was just uh friendship started. I guess then that first uh meeting at international open and now
[563.85] BotGrinder: Random episodes they'll call me up and I go do episodes with them and I wait I wait by my phone
[568.65] BotGrinder: Like the month in between till they call me and they're like, yes
[571.13] BotGrinder: I look forward to it so much like it's some
[573.29] BotGrinder: I love flying with my friends and flying with that crew is is so fun for me. It definitely helps me
[579.45] BotGrinder: Step my game up just being around that level of talent. You know what I mean? Yeah, man that skill of pilots. What is um
[586.65] Tony: riding a train
[588.73] Tony: What is it? Yeah
[591.29] BotGrinder: I just ride road trains town to town did whatever
[598.49] BotGrinder: Got pretty popular so I did a few interviews and
[602.25] BotGrinder: things all I did was like
[603.93] BotGrinder: Uh people submit pictures of them traveling which were usually disgusting a lot of nudity a lot of drug use a lot of just
[610.09] BotGrinder: Random wtf situations that post of all my blog and people it was like the age of tumblr people loved it
[616.73] BotGrinder: So I actually got I kind of well known for that
[620.33] BotGrinder: before fpv and everything
[623.13] BotGrinder: Which I think is is a great
[625.83] BotGrinder: contrast
[628.49] BotGrinder: I stayed in a squat
[629.85] BotGrinder: My friend's squat in the basement and I worked for a year and that's a little bit in bitcoin
[634.41] BotGrinder: wisely bitcoin went up a lot, so I bought my house and um
[639.29] BotGrinder: Just started, you know living life as a homeowner instead of somebody squatting in the basement
[645.05] Tony: Yeah, oh nice. That's that's a good turnaround because quite a lot of people
[650.87] BotGrinder: Futuristically zen, you know what I mean? There's just your your bird flying around so nothing
[655.93] BotGrinder: I'm also like this is kicking in so I might start rambling about
[660.25] UNKNOWN: All right
[661.29] Jack: Um, can I ask a bit more about like the freight hopping and stuff?
[664.89] Jack: Do you ever get lyre in trouble like with the they call them bulls or something? Yeah, yeah, I wrote row bulls
[670.33] BotGrinder: Yeah, um in my experience i've only received
[674.17] BotGrinder: Three tickets in the probably hundreds hundreds of trains that I rode in in that over a decade. Yeah
[680.81] BotGrinder: Because they know what you're doing
[681.85] BotGrinder: And as long as you're not messing with the yard the rail yard at all if they see legit
[686.17] BotGrinder: You're just trying to get from place to place. They usually don't care at all
[688.73] BotGrinder: They just say go ahead get out of here
[690.65] BotGrinder: But a lot of the newer guys that haven't written a lot of tickets you practice writing tickets the newer the new bulls
[696.49] BotGrinder: So they're the ones that'll give you tickets and then um
[698.89] BotGrinder: I I just want to pay it or go to court. I would just not go to that city for a couple years and it'll go away
[704.89] BotGrinder: But it's not I mean also I haven't written a training good five six years and may be different now. It's been a long time
[710.81] Jack: Yeah, surely, um, like surely a bit of it must be like really scary and that like
[716.41] Jack: you know
[719.21] Jack: Like what trying to jump off, you know, like you go around the road like a curve in a rail
[724.17] Jack: They'll slow down because like freight trains go so fast. Yeah
[727.29] BotGrinder: Yeah, they i've been on ones that must have been doing 75 which there's only supposed to do like 55 I believe 55 60
[733.53] BotGrinder: Maybe but the the postal trains the postal trains will go for two days
[738.01] BotGrinder: The only time they stop is to get fuel and they're going as fast as possible the whole time
[742.17] BotGrinder: Those are pretty crazy to ride on because you just if something goes wrong, you're not getting off for at least 1200 miles
[748.33] BotGrinder: you know
[749.61] Tony: Oh, man, that's it. Yeah
[752.25] Tony: Fell asleep and woke up and gone. I'm about 300 miles
[756.65] BotGrinder: Gone too far. I I several times I thought I was on the right train somewhere and ended up going in a complete different direction
[763.69] BotGrinder: I've been on that, you know, eight to twelve hours before I realized like oh, this is going the wrong way
[770.41] Jack: Yeah, that's a point because you wouldn't have a phone with like gps to see which way you're going
[775.21] Jack: The driver like hey, where you off to
[779.21] BotGrinder: The modern hobos the kids now they all have cell phones and gps and everything when I was doing it
[784.09] BotGrinder: I did not it was completely different
[786.01] BotGrinder: You had to just assume and use the sun
[788.89] BotGrinder: And um when you're on a train going through the middle of town look at cars license plates to see what state you're in
[794.97] BotGrinder: Things like that. We we had no clue where the hell we were half the time
[798.41] BotGrinder: But it was all about the traveling and the fun of it. You use your finger to find north
[803.77] BotGrinder: No, but there is um
[806.49] BotGrinder: There's a little little thingy you can do that's kind of like a location
[812.01] BotGrinder: Echolocation
[813.21] BotGrinder: Whereas it'll click a magnet will click on your finger if you put this box on it the closer you are to an object
[818.57] BotGrinder: So you can almost sense the shape of an object, you know by feeling the rapid click. So the declining clicks nothing
[826.57] BotGrinder: But like a dolphin yeah, yeah exactly
[829.77] Tony: Oh
[834.01] Tony: There's the cat what was his name again I've forgotten already
[838.01] Jack: But life me bread come on
[841.61] Tony: Bread that's it bread corn
[844.41] Tony: One idiot
[846.09] Tony: They look like they get on
[849.37] Tony: My dogs are with my parents at the moment. I'll miss them already
[852.97] Tony: I'm gonna be my wife only for you. That's terrible here. There's no one here now
[857.85] Andy: How many how many quads are you guys taking to the castle?
[862.89] Tony: Uh, i'm just gonna take two freestyle quads and my wing tomorrow, uh and my phantom
[868.25] Tony: Jack what about you? Uh two
[871.53] Jack: Cool
[872.41] Jack: That's it. Really?
[874.09] Andy: That's uh, that's all I got and then you take like uh, well like ions with you and stuff
[879.93] Andy: If you crash and stuff and spare parts and that
[883.29] Tony: Uh only props
[886.25] Jack: Yeah, I might bring an esc
[890.09] Tony: Yeah, I might bring one of them just in case
[892.89] Tony: What are you flying? Um dog at the moment?
[896.17] BotGrinder: Oh my
[897.45] BotGrinder: uh, well, of course
[899.29] BotGrinder: Uh the grinder motors and then my mainframes are my i'm prototyping my bot grinder frame
[905.37] BotGrinder: Which is going to come out actually I think the end of this month. It should come out. They're just about done
[911.37] BotGrinder: But all sorts of different electronics like
[913.61] BotGrinder: Every I have about five rigs that are up and running and all five of them have different components on it
[918.09] Andy: Besides the motors. Those are all grinders. Is that frame coming through the the road to riot?
[923.69] BotGrinder: Avenue as well. No, that's bqe my uh, my frame sponsor bqe cool. The only
[930.57] BotGrinder: The only frames that I run
[932.97] BotGrinder: Uh, I break stuff so easy and other companies have reached out and when they try their frames and one of my bqes
[938.65] BotGrinder: I've had for almost six months and it hasn't broken
[941.53] BotGrinder: And they're just whatever they do the way they cut the carbon the cup and that's what I want
[946.73] BotGrinder: I don't want to keep rebuilding
[948.25] BotGrinder: Once I break an arm or something. I don't want to replace an arm
[950.89] BotGrinder: I just don't want the frame to break. That's what I got going to bqe someone to stick with them
[954.57] Andy: What are you running in terms of?
[957.61] BotGrinder: Firmware like beta flight kiss race flight beta flight all day. Nothing but beta flight three three
[963.21] Andy: That's interesting because a lot of the road to riot guys
[966.09] BotGrinder: They they like to run kiss don't they I think I think that was more like noac
[971.37] BotGrinder: Nobody else really none of the current road to riot members run kiss
[978.25] BotGrinder: I can't speak for them in my experience flying with them. They all pretty much run, uh beta flight. Yeah
[983.93] Jack: I know stingy used
[985.93] Jack: kcsc's with beta flight. I know that and
[990.49] Jack: You know steely was
[992.49] Jack: Kiss all the way
[994.01] Jack: So i'm still in noac where
[997.37] BotGrinder: Noah can um
[998.65] BotGrinder: And steal now they're out. So yeah, I don't think anybody in road to riot is really running like consistently running anything
[1003.45] Andy: But beta flight. I didn't realize that chad chad's not in road to riot anymore
[1007.77] Andy: No, the other day no, I did not know that you see i'm so I live under a rock here
[1013.45] Andy: What what happened? What happened there then he made a very casual post?
[1016.97] BotGrinder: I feel like you know what?
[1017.69] BotGrinder: I mean, it wasn't a big deal because he didn't want it to be he just made a casual post
[1021.05] BotGrinder: On his personal account and saying that he was leaving road to riot
[1025.37] Andy: All right, okay
[1027.53] Tony: I did not know that no, no, we love chad as well
[1030.81] BotGrinder: Oh, yeah, I got to hang out with him one time and it was so fun. I I enjoyed chat a lot
[1035.45] Andy: Yeah, there was a lot of nudity when he was on this this show the last less time
[1041.93] Tony: Yeah, he likes to take his top off quite often
[1045.53] Andy: I wonder what he's gonna do then whether it's gonna be
[1048.41] Andy: like did he mention
[1050.09] Andy: What kind of stuff he was doing in the future or?
[1052.89] BotGrinder: Not really it's on his his facebook. I need to go and check. I don't know. I've missed that
[1057.45] BotGrinder: He just he just said that he's leaving
[1060.65] Andy: New chapter there you go jack. There's a space
[1063.61] Andy: There's a space freed up for you
[1066.17] Andy: Why i'd love to see i'd love to see your own right. Oh, man, i'd get kicked off
[1071.45] Jack: like
[1072.41] Jack: I don't know setting light to things i've i've got
[1075.29] Jack: I don't know. I'm friends with david. You know what I mean destroying his
[1079.21] Jack: Probably destroyed chad's house or something
[1084.38] Jack: You've got to get the rule is you've got to get along with mrs. Chad though. That's the that's the key of
[1090.62] Jack: surviving in roe riot
[1093.1] Jack: You don't get on with mrs. Chad you're out. Yeah
[1096.14] Tony: um
[1097.9] Tony: I I reckon roe right are gonna bring your own flight controller out soon
[1103.58] Jack: Anyone ask for him? I don't would they why?
[1107.66] Tony: Why not they're selling hype train motors? Why would they not do a?
[1113.53] Tony: fc as well add to it
[1117.37] Tony: Uh, what do you think doug he might know so
[1124.09] Tony: Keep smoking and tell us in a minute
[1127.13] Tony: All right, what's slip up
[1129.77] BotGrinder: One dose of dirt. What do you want to know? I'm actually running. Um,
[1133.21] BotGrinder: Myself the radix. Have you seen the radix flight controller? No from brain fdb
[1138.41] BotGrinder: It's a good one
[1139.85] BotGrinder: And uh, my whole thing is I break everything but this thing won't quit like the dys was my favorite the v1 of the dys
[1146.73] BotGrinder: F4, but you would i'd smack a tree and the whole flight controller would break
[1150.41] BotGrinder: Like if roe riot can make something that's durable and at least if like control i'd be really into it, but
[1157.93] BotGrinder: I don't know. I don't know. They never really done anything like that. That'd be cool. I guess
[1161.21] BotGrinder: It seems like they're branching out into things the batteries and yeah
[1165.69] BotGrinder: The new the the starter frame the budget frame where they call it the the seal some
[1171.61] BotGrinder: Have you seen those posts? They're making a frame they're trying to retail it for like 30 or something like that
[1176.73] BotGrinder: Well, that'd be good for people. I think it's great because the whole debate of cloners and every all that
[1181.37] BotGrinder: I don't want to talk about any of that. But
[1183.37] BotGrinder: Um, I in my mind i'm like everybody's allowed to buy one or two martians and that's it and then no more clones
[1189.29] BotGrinder: Then you should buy from somebody that that's their living is selling their frames, you know
[1193.13] Tony: Yeah
[1193.85] BotGrinder: So it's cool of a company to make such a budget frame that you don't have to buy a martian or some bang good
[1199.69] BotGrinder: Frame that hurts the industry that we all love, you know
[1203.53] BotGrinder: And if you ain't got money nothing wrong buying clones
[1206.09] BotGrinder: No shame at all. Like if you ain't got that much money, but buy them all day just so you can fly
[1210.25] BotGrinder: Yeah, but if you don't show me, you know support support a company that does it not not steals from the people
[1217.37] Andy: Zero saying is sharp. He's still in road to riot
[1221.53] Jack: No, man, he's so busy. No, he's surely not
[1225.37] BotGrinder: Is what sharp? Who is sharp? Is he still in road to riot zero? Yeah, he's still a member. Trappu is still a right member
[1232.73] Tony: Cool. He hasn't been on the show for like a year though
[1236.57] Jack: No, it has been a while. I would like to I would like to see him
[1240.65] Jack: I miss him. He's so funny. Just like the little stories he tells and stuff like that
[1245.85] BotGrinder: I like listening to him talk if I can just hear him say y'all just
[1249.37] BotGrinder: Justin
[1250.65] Tony: Yeah
[1251.69] Tony: You're not allowed to call it your spin. Are you?
[1254.49] BotGrinder: Apparently not
[1256.33] Tony: What does he call it jaw?
[1260.18] BotGrinder: Yeah, he says jaw
[1261.7] BotGrinder: doesn't
[1262.98] Jack: It's not your it's yours. It's yours. Trouble is man. He's like so snowed under with like dreamworks, isn't he?
[1269.46] Jack: Oh, I would imagine
[1270.98] Jack: That's probably he's very many bucks
[1275.54] BotGrinder: You know, yeah, that must be nice
[1276.58] BotGrinder: So fpv famous and you don't really ever have to do anything except for I mean
[1280.82] BotGrinder: He put in a lot of work in the beginning not that he didn't do anything
[1283.54] BotGrinder: But you know the past year or so he hasn't really put out any videos and he still held him such high regard
[1288.82] BotGrinder: But he was a pioneer. He was one of the first he's one that got me into fpv. Yeah
[1293.06] BotGrinder: He doesn't have to do anything in my mind
[1295.38] BotGrinder: He did his job. He inspired several pilots
[1300.18] Tony: Yeah, um who inspired me I think it was boris b flying over trees one day
[1306.66] BotGrinder: I mean sharp who got me into it, but I remember the first pilot I saw where I felt
[1312.02] BotGrinder: Like there was a place for someone like me was tom smith. I saw tom smith's videos and I was like, okay
[1317.54] BotGrinder: Yes, there's a tattooed guy playing metal
[1320.5] Tony: Yeah, we we've
[1322.74] Tony: tried to get him on so many times i've met him a few times at races and stuff and
[1327.94] Tony: He was at the first ever
[1331.54] Tony: Nationals in england we went to
[1335.14] Tony: But yeah
[1336.74] Tony: We're actually heading up his way
[1339.38] Tony: The next two days, so we might see if we can give him a shout and meet up with him. Yeah
[1344.74] BotGrinder: I'll do that one day
[1346.66] Andy: I bet if you turned up at quad copters, then you'd see him because he works there, doesn't he? Yeah, that's true
[1352.1] Andy: That's not that way
[1353.62] Tony: What would get him in the room and then start chatting ldo chat to him?
[1357.38] Tony: See if we really wanted to get him on here, but he's too shy
[1361.86] Andy: Which which he hates to show you'd be surprised about he doesn't come across as a shy guy, doesn't he?
[1367.86] Jack: No, it seems like you know, all you'd have to do is come on and scream lad a few times. I think everyone'd be happy
[1374.98] Jack: You know, yeah, lad no lads
[1378.66] BotGrinder: As he at mythical creatures lads has he done any podcasts actually can't recall no
[1384.9] Tony: No, that's why we keep
[1386.9] Tony: Trying to get him on here first, but yeah, that's that's kind of cool
[1389.86] BotGrinder: It's elusive, but I want to hear what he has to say. I would like to hear some questions to promise me
[1394.9] Jack: I did speak to him. Um
[1397.62] Jack: but the uh
[1399.46] Jack: Oh man
[1401.62] Jack: Was it no it was the
[1404.5] Jack: The last show we were at in wasn't it the uk drone show? Yeah
[1409.14] Jack: so I spoke to him then so
[1412.1] Jack: That's about it. Really?
[1413.94] Tony: I know we're gonna have to collar him. Maybe we should uh collar him this weekend
[1419.38] Tony: Because uh, where where does he live Liverpool somewhere like
[1424.1] Andy: No, no that that accent is
[1427.06] Andy: It's more north and that like black black pool hole kind of way I think but quad copters
[1433.14] Jack: Isn't it like an impressive way? So yeah, it's kind of that way. I love we we have to speak to our northern expert
[1441.78] Andy: I know i'm like that. I it's funny. I have no tattoos yet. I'm up this far north
[1447.3] Andy: It's a nice should be covered in them. Yeah
[1450.42] Andy: I know it's it. I I break the stereotype. You're a pussy northern up. That's what it is
[1455.78] Andy: I love tattoos. I I do but uh, yeah, I know like what kind of metal head
[1460.1] Jack: You never believe that uh, andy rc does a load of like screaming music and stuff
[1465.22] Andy: Oh, yeah
[1466.9] Jack: dirty mosher like
[1469.06] Jack: You know like you just don't look like one if anyone you'd get along with uh,
[1475.06] Jack: Bot grinder, it would be andy rc you'd love him
[1478.1] Jack: If you reveal his true self
[1480.98] Andy: To you, yeah, I like metal bands. Um, what what you mentioned earlier that you're in like some bands
[1486.98] Andy: Are they um, like you play gigs and stuff?
[1490.18] BotGrinder: Yeah, yeah, i've been in bands for uh
[1493.14] BotGrinder: Shoot five five years now something like that. Oh, I think somebody's here. Yeah
[1498.58] Tony: Yeah, um
[1499.86] Tony: Sorry to interrupt brad is is at your door jack?
[1503.38] Jack: No, why?
[1504.66] Jack: Try and let him in
[1506.82] Jack: I think he's there. Okay
[1508.9] Tony: Oh, who's coming?
[1511.62] Andy: It's nine o'clock. Anyway guys, we've got to go. Yeah, but we didn't we didn't we need to start for
[1517.14] Tony: We can go for another 20 minutes. Just go for another two and it's
[1521.7] Tony: Jack's jack's disappeared jack's disappeared bot grinder's muted because
[1526.42] Tony: I think someone's just coming in his house. Maybe it's his girlfriend or something. Hey, i'm back. My roommate was coming home
[1532.82] BotGrinder: Okay, so my friend gave me a sarong and you know, we all love barwell and my friend
[1538.9] BotGrinder: So i'm wearing it actually i had to explain to my roommate. First of all, why?
[1544.18] BotGrinder: The number two why i'm wearing this sarong all right, so i stand up then it just
[1550.9] Andy: Tied it right. It kind of looks like you're being like a cam girl or something
[1556.1] Andy: See that's what I was trying to
[1558.58] BotGrinder: So I made it awkward as soon as he stepped in that's how you be awkward
[1564.58] Tony: Should we try to get a picture of
[1567.14] Tony: Jack in wiles in one of them
[1570.1] Andy: Yes
[1571.22] Tony: Yes, we're just going and buy a second hand curtain or something from somewhere. Oh, I wanted to I wanted to ask dj
[1576.98] Andy: So, um, is there anywhere we can find your your like music content? Do you have like another? Yeah, that was um
[1584.58] Bradders: Oh
[1592.42] Bradders: But you know
[1596.66] Bradders: I know but you know, but god is doing really well. I know man
[1604.34] Andy: Passenger seat we've got no one to turn jack on mute either because he's the
[1609.14] Tony: Taking over man. He's in control. Ask a question then brothers
[1614.26] BotGrinder: Um, but he was doing it his pajamas. He was doing his pajamas. He's wearing
[1620.1] Andy: There are sarong but with like a line down the middle
[1624.58] Andy: Oh my legs, yeah
[1628.1] Bradders: Um a question, um, have you tried race flight?
[1633.46] Bradders: What and if not, why not? Yeah it is
[1636.58] Tony: No, I said that's quite a good question. Have you tried race flight?
[1640.02] BotGrinder: Me? Yeah, am I still here? Oh, hey, uh, yes one time I did one time because everybody
[1647.62] BotGrinder: Cricket fpv. My boy my flying buddy. He loves it. So I was like, all right, i'll try it
[1652.58] BotGrinder: And I didn't know how to tune it. I didn't know how to use the interface and that's the reason that I haven't used it again
[1657.38] Bradders: I guess actually, I think I see your vid. Was it around? Uh,
[1661.14] Bradders: like a boss
[1662.66] Bradders: cricket court
[1664.58] Bradders: baseball court or some
[1666.74] BotGrinder: Maybe wait when I try to race flight. Yeah, ma'am. That was when I went to um, denver
[1672.82] BotGrinder: Oh, yes
[1674.82] BotGrinder: With my buddy scythe
[1676.42] BotGrinder: Okay
[1677.54] BotGrinder: There's my cigarette. Um
[1680.5] BotGrinder: Yeah, that was the only experience which was dumb to do I was going on trips right before I left for my trip
[1684.82] BotGrinder: I switched over to race flight. Like why would I do that right before a trip? I'm tested and everything
[1688.42] BotGrinder: But it was whatever and I it had some
[1691.62] Bradders: tuning
[1692.98] Bradders: My dish with beta flight
[1695.14] Bradders: Sorry, i'm just gonna change what beta or race no beta flight. The thing is it doesn't turn right
[1702.9] Bradders: It doesn't roll right it doesn't yet, you know what you just did there but man, it doesn't do that right, you know
[1708.34] Bradders: On what beta flight or yeah on beta flight it doesn't
[1712.82] Bradders: It doesn't have that natural. I don't know
[1715.78] Bradders: All right. That's what i've noticed between it now. It's that it's a turning something's wrong. Something's not right
[1722.74] Bradders: Yeah
[1724.42] BotGrinder: I have tried um my friends rigs that have race flight and and that were tuned I did love them
[1734.26] BotGrinder: Yeah, go on sorry, man
[1736.66] BotGrinder: Running my friends quads that had race flight tuned in those were they flew great
[1740.5] BotGrinder: I liked it my personal rig
[1742.34] BotGrinder: I didn't feel like
[1743.46] BotGrinder: Taking the time to tune because of beta flight
[1745.7] BotGrinder: I can throw in these random numbers on like almost any quad that I have and it runs
[1750.26] Bradders: Pretty much how I want to fly it. Yeah, to be fair. It's it's it's just a turning for me. There's something wrong, man
[1756.5] Bradders: I've done kiss now. Uh
[1759.62] BotGrinder: Never tried kiss i've never tried it and I also went from um
[1763.78] Bradders: Drone in you know the software drone one race flight
[1768.58] Bradders: No race flight. It's good, man. It's good
[1771.38] Bradders: What you mean flight one it used to be no, it's good. You just got it's just a
[1777.06] Bradders: I'll get held up. I don't it's just a pain in the
[1780.82] Bradders: to um
[1782.42] Bradders: Get right
[1783.7] BotGrinder: Yeah, which is awkward. I mean if you haven't used it like if you've never used beta flight
[1788.9] BotGrinder: That's gonna be a pain to use as well
[1790.9] Bradders: The annoying thing is the setup is so simple and then the tune in not so simple at the minute
[1799.06] BotGrinder: Which is kind of funny because you can be very precise with your tune on on race flight
[1802.82] BotGrinder: But the initial setup is so simple. It's kind of you know, one extreme to the other
[1807.86] Tony: I love the the setup of it that the how easy it is
[1812.1] Tony: But my last
[1813.7] Tony: I've tried for three or four days to tune one of my quads and it weren't having it as soon as I put
[1819.06] Tony: But you're three point three on it just flow. Yeah
[1823.06] BotGrinder: I I just know beta flight is so easy and I have my my numbers I go to and it flies good
[1828.02] Bradders: High p in that do you but what's your deal? Are you high p man or what are you both?
[1833.14] BotGrinder: I usually just up up my uh p's by about 20 up my d's by about
[1837.78] BotGrinder: Seven to eight or so throw a bunch of expo a bunch of super rate anti-gravity up a bunch a little bit of uh,
[1844.1] BotGrinder: Are you a high expo are you?
[1846.1] BotGrinder: Very high 55 like point 55. I see that a lot, you know high expo man
[1850.74] Bradders: Definitely for freestyle. I think it's the way forwards and that because you just said I edged her
[1856.1] BotGrinder: I opened up my tarantas and I make my sticks as loose as like super loose
[1859.86] BotGrinder: Like you can almost shake them and they move same as me
[1862.82] BotGrinder: So and then I run high expo which I could probably find a better way to do that and meet in the middle
[1867.14] BotGrinder: But i've been running for so long i'm scared to change right now
[1870.42] Bradders: See i'm a bit
[1872.5] Bradders: Stop swearing
[1874.18] Bradders: Sorry
[1875.54] Bradders: um, I um
[1877.94] Bradders: I'm a bit strange. I flash and I
[1881.62] Bradders: try and um
[1884.26] Bradders: Just get used to what is sitting that if it's not fast enough or at my rates
[1889.3] Bradders: But I just I don't know it's a bit crazy man. I'll just yeah
[1892.74] Bradders: one of them
[1894.66] Tony: Jack saying it's odd that he's on the on his show, but he's not on it
[1899.14] Bradders: kicked off
[1901.54] Bradders: I bet if i'd scream into the chat like kick radders off
[1905.62] Tony: I don't know. I haven't seen anyone
[1908.5] Bradders: Just you need to stop swearing. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I'm not I know. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I will yeah
[1915.38] BotGrinder: Well, um and I was worried about swearing. Yeah, I know you've been really good. Sorry
[1920.02] Bradders: Who's more stone bratas or bop? Oh, yeah, that's that's my second question
[1926.02] Bradders: Geez
[1927.3] Bradders: How's the weed over there man? Because over here is all right, but it's been a bit
[1931.78] BotGrinder: I mean it's legal a lot of places here so you can experiment in the open and make a lot of good
[1936.98] Bradders: Man, the lag is unreal. Yeah, the lag actually i was gonna say I was gonna say who's serving you because I was running
[1943.6] Bradders: 144 on my mobile man, and it was stopping so much on the way over it on 14. I love how this conversation
[1951.22] Jack: Is
[1957.54] Jack: It was it's definitely um
[1960.18] Jack: Can you guys hear me? All right? Yeah nagging bad. Yeah, um, it's definitely it's definitely a uh
[1967.7] Bradders: Is he on your network?
[1969.14] Jack: Yeah, but it's not it's not me. I've done a I've done a speed test like I've run run a speed test
[1975.14] Jack: It's definitely google
[1977.54] Jack: 100% google like hang on i'll just i'll run one now
[1981.54] Jack: Hopefully it's recording fine though. I can't believe how nice brana smells. It's unreal
[1988.74] Jack: Like what aftershave that you use
[1999.3] Jack: I mean admittedly my pings a bit whack but
[2001.94] Jack: Upside yeah, like
[2004.9] Jack: Download but yeah ups up sign. Yeah, it's definitely google. It's not it's not me. I shared it
[2010.02] Jack: But he shared my ip address as well like dumbass
[2015.14] Tony: Freeze phone
[2016.74] Jack: I know
[2017.7] Tony: Have you took at uh, have we got a picture of bot grinder with his mug that we can put on as a thumbnail?
[2024.18] Jack: Have you took it? I know. Yeah, maybe if he can pause like a lot and talk constantly
[2030.1] Tony: Can't we just take a picture?
[2032.42] BotGrinder: If I could pause a lot
[2035.14] Tony: To pray hum or something about hummels
[2042.02] Tony: I said hum a lot. So you'd put your coffee in here
[2046.34] BotGrinder: So that's about probably best you're gonna get is right there
[2049.62] Jack: Someone's some screen grab that and send it email it to me and they all say i've got a question for you
[2055.22] Bradders: Go on
[2056.1] Bradders: If it's about if it's about how good arriving no, no, no, no putty's not expected, but are you ready for this?
[2063.62] Andy: No, oh, I i've already met jack. How have you?
[2068.26] Andy: Good stuff, man
[2071.54] Andy: I think uh, it's yes. No, it's it's all good. I think they need to be ready for up here
[2076.34] Andy: You know, it's like a different it's like a different country up here still snowing
[2081.14] Bradders: It's just stopped today. So is it? Yeah, do you know in france?
[2085.62] Bradders: Oh, no, it's not even gonna go there
[2090.66] Bradders: No, i'm just gonna say they got good weather in france
[2095.62] Tony: Some nice weather
[2098.1] Tony: Man, you're so lucky pot grinder. What's your weather over there for flying all the time?
[2102.9] Tony: I know it gets cold, but you get sunnen. All right. Yeah
[2106.9] BotGrinder: It's been it's been bad weather. It's been
[2109.3] BotGrinder: Snowing cold windy
[2111.3] BotGrinder: Everything you don't want to fly in but today is beautiful. It's I can hear the birds outside
[2116.82] Tony: We we get we'll let you go soon because I know you you want to go flying
[2121.62] BotGrinder: Cool. I got a few hours
[2123.86] Tony: I mean you're lucky
[2126.02] Tony: It's cold wet and been absolutely rubbish here
[2130.34] BotGrinder: Uh, it's been like that here. I feel you it's about to get nice very soon though. We've had it since
[2136.42] Tony: We've had bad weather. Well, the last good day was august bank holiday and it's been
[2141.3] Tony: Rubbish for since august find a good date, though
[2146.42] Bradders: Been rubbly
[2155.54] Jack: I'm back on my own show
[2160.5] Tony: Oh god i've never seen this before yeah, I know
[2164.34] Jack: It's just it's a bit metronome because you can see me in the background
[2168.26] Andy: It's like we've now got like dual shots of jack
[2173.86] BotGrinder: Pretty nice mold I can
[2177.94] Tony: You need to turn your mic down braddas so we can not
[2182.26] Andy: Not his mic that's the problem. Where do I start?
[2187.06] Bradders: I'll leave don't worry
[2188.9] Bradders: You jump back man. All right
[2193.86] Bradders: Anyway, yeah
[2196.58] Tony: Thanks braddas
[2198.1] Bradders: You've been great. So what's um wrote about this variant? I do apologize
[2203.14] Jack: We'll let you all what's wrote a punk who who would have thought that braddas would be worse than pop grinder
[2209.78] Jack: Speaking of grinders. Look instantly on my desk
[2215.62] Andy: Herbal grinder how that hurt we should ask that where does the where does the name come from?
[2221.3] BotGrinder: The gratt the bot grinder, yeah, yeah, that was um signaling back into
[2226.58] BotGrinder: My band that I was in gripe gripe was my old band
[2229.86] BotGrinder: We were on like npr. It was insane
[2232.1] BotGrinder: How how like for grindcore band which nobody really cares about grindcore?
[2236.18] BotGrinder: We were all like one of the top hot downloads of that year on the npr website, which I was very proud of but
[2242.5] BotGrinder: We wrote a song called bot grinder
[2244.9] BotGrinder: It was about just like a killer robot and I thought that was a cool name
[2248.26] BotGrinder: So I just I made that gmail after we wrote that song and hung on to the the google account just for whatever
[2253.78] BotGrinder: When it came time for me to fly fpv
[2255.78] BotGrinder: I was like, oh a bot grinder sounds kind of cool
[2257.86] BotGrinder: I'll use that till I figure out something else and I just ran with it. Can you find can you find this music online?
[2263.7] Andy: I think I was asking that before someone rudely interrupted and took over the show
[2269.22] BotGrinder: Yeah, it's on bandcamp you can just if you google like gripe afin's georgia, then it'll probably come up
[2277.06] BotGrinder: Of course and we have three with four albums online, I believe
[2282.18] BotGrinder: And they're all free downloads except for our last one because it was with a record label and we forgot to put it out for free
[2289.38] BotGrinder: But everything else is for that was our whole thing was we make music and you can just have it for free
[2293.7] Andy: We never charged for anything. Do you ever use that music on your fpv footage? I noticed use like a lot of uh metal
[2301.62] BotGrinder: So yeah, yeah
[2303.06] BotGrinder: All all gripe songs are under like like 30 seconds only our last album did they get a bit longer?
[2308.82] BotGrinder: But the 30 second song so it's hard to put it for flight footage. I've used it. I think one time
[2316.58] BotGrinder: You need to rip harder, yeah, yeah, exactly
[2320.18] BotGrinder: One pack 30 seconds
[2322.34] BotGrinder: I've used it for like b roll
[2323.3] BotGrinder: But I usually like using my friends bands or just other bands
[2325.7] BotGrinder: I like rather than mine because i've heard those songs so many times in my life
[2330.42] BotGrinder: And i'm done with it
[2332.34] BotGrinder: But i'm starting a couple new bands
[2335.38] BotGrinder: This summer, so i'm definitely going to be jamming. My video is full of my new bands music
[2340.82] Tony: Sweet. So are you gone? Should we have a little shout out to people?
[2345.14] Jack: Yeah, sure
[2346.5] Tony: Uh, rob rippins in the house mr. Frost in the house bsm
[2351.22] Tony: Fucking near myself twice
[2353.94] Tony: Um, we got zero
[2356.58] Tony: On the show daffy boy
[2359.3] Tony: Um
[2361.3] Tony: Who else have we got in there nutty prop what's up green patches is in there?
[2366.74] Tony: Um
[2367.94] Tony: Who else have we got in there? I think I saw george's girl mikey dread fpv. Of course mf booms in the chat
[2376.26] Tony: Uh, so thanks for tuning in. I know it's a bit pants tonight guys
[2381.38] Bradders: Are you all honey?
[2383.86] Bradders: Tony tony tony tony tony tony tony
[2388.18] Bradders: You love all right
[2391.78] Bradders: He is not listening
[2394.1] Jack: Tony what i'm listening. He can't he can't hear you
[2400.5] Jack: Yeah, look you got to listen here he's such a dumbass he's like saying tony thinking you're ignoring him and he can't
[2408.02] Bradders: Sorry, i've just got to put a thing at the end of this show guys
[2412.18] Bradders: Have you ever seen this before?
[2414.42] Bradders: All right, tony. Give me this. It's probably the best thing i've ever had and uh, I just want to put
[2421.94] Bradders: He's sick, man. I'm swearing. I'm swearing. Sorry. Sorry
[2426.26] Tony: Oh, my thunder is not small. Thank you so much
[2429.3] Jack: You
[2431.3] Jack: Happy christmas bradders. Happy christmas. He's heard. Yeah
[2435.46] Andy: All right, guys, let's let's leave it there, man. This has become a great episode on why not to do drugs
[2445.38] Tony: I think popcorn has been great. It's bad. Is it? Yeah
[2449.62] Andy: That is exactly my point
[2452.26] Jack: I know we're supposed to be done at nine. I let him in at nine. This is what happens
[2455.78] Jack: Maybe we should let him in. Let's say you can do drugs. Just make sure you don't have to handle them. Yeah
[2464.02] Jack: Right, thank you you've been listening to the lecture now we've been joined by andy rc
[2468.5] Andy: Thank you for pointing out with all the techno issues
[2472.42] Jack: Yep, uh joined by bot grinder
[2476.1] Jack: Thank you for having me. It's been a pleasure, man. You're welcome back anytime. Thank you. Uh, we've been joined by
[2483.46] Tony: Moni what's up? Thank you. Au revoir bonjour, whatever
[2488.1] Jack: We've been grinding his butt, but you can also find him on grinder if you're within his catch area and i've been jack
[2497.38] UNKNOWN: Right until I fly sorry don't always lower the tone, don't you good night guys?