=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 206 ===
Title: LDO 206 - Droneislife
Recorded: 2019-08-08
Hosts: Andy, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews
Guest(s): JAB1A, Kelsey Hunt, Rohan "Failsafe" Clegg, Shane Hedges, Toby "SessionFPV" Allen
Total audience: 2,314
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2toJOX5Hzg); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/665414294-letsdroneout-ldo-206-droneislife.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hey guys it's Jack here. Big massive shout out to our patreons. So these guys are the guys who
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[23.2] Jack: These guys are absolute legends. Thank you so much and see you next show.
[30.0] Jack: Hello and welcome to the audio version of Let's Drone Out. Tonight you are joined by Andrew
[63.6] Jack: slash Frank. Okay. Andy Austin. No you're not. Curry Kitten. Hello. We've got my nemesis Kelsey FPV.
[76.0] Jack: Hello. We've got the UK still undefeated freestyle champion because there's never been
[82.08] Jack: another freestyle championship in the UK. Jab 1A. No no that's that's Daniel Waring.
[89.68] JAB1A: He's freestyle champion and he still is freestyle champion. I thought you were. No no it's 2015
[96.16] Jack: UK champion. Oh I'm sorry. Can't even get out. That's why we have a disclaimer. Some things may
[104.16] Jack: not be true. Section FPV and Drone is Life master and Lord Shane Hedges. Disclaimer Curry.
[117.76] Curry: Any views expressed by any guests on this show are personal and may not reflect the views of hosts
[122.88] Jack: or any participant of the show. Yeah I must say I am well impressed with your rainbow
[129.52] Jack: storage solution. You've got Fran to thank for that one. God that is lovely. I'm more impressed
[141.04] Andy: with the do it. Is that like you know those hair extensions or is that? No it's probably but
[149.92] Shane Hedges: I feel that when we go to QEs and stuff there's always ginger hour. Oh no. Ginger hour.
[158.08] Andy: Is that northern? What's he on about? They do like ginger but he said he reckons his strawberry
[166.96] Jack: blonde. I know I'm sort of I'll give you it right. The old beard that's ginger. We've got we've got
[173.6] Andy: NJ Tech just appeared for a brief second. What's all that about? Well I sent him an invite. What
[181.2] Jack: are bitches? I'm back. We have Mr Safety Special K. Mr Safety. Now that we're all here
[195.2] Andy: who has converted to the DJI Digital FPV system? No. No one. No. We're all scrub lords. Well it's
[205.52] Curry: out of stock as you mentioned last week. Nobody could get it even if they wanted it at the moment
[209.44] Andy: could they? You can't get it in the UK and it wouldn't be worth getting it in the UK because
[215.04] Andy: it's very limited to like is it like 200 milliwatt and four channels? So we are completely screwed
[224.0] Andy: but guess guess who has got one? Has painters got one? I think Andy RC has got one.
[233.36] Andy: Andy RC's got one. Yeah Andy RC's got a bunch of them so look out for DJI's. No not a bunch
[242.4] Andy: of DJI's a bunch of HD blooming system. That's not what we're talking about. We were talking
[248.96] Curry: about DJI specifically. You've just got competing HD implementations then. Yes including the DJI's.
[262.48] Andy: So I'll tell you if it's actually any good or not rather than it just being an app.
[270.48] Andy: It's very good for freestyle but it's not very good for racing. Yeah yeah because I guess that's
[276.16] Andy: going to be the latest thing isn't it? When you start. It'll be absolutely awesome for spectators
[284.72] JAB1A: and like a DCL they did. They had a live stream there didn't they? Yeah the HD connects up to a
[292.0] JAB1A: huge massive screen that turned up on a articulated lorry and blocked off the Champs-Élysées. It was
[297.76] Andy: amazing. Apparently that worked pretty well as well which is amazing because the connect system
[307.04] Andy: went underground. Yeah the connect system is sort of seen as like inferior compared to
[314.16] Andy: Bish new stuff that's coming out. Well I suppose the difference there is they were they were
[318.64] Curry: streaming the stuff to the audience but people weren't flying through that camera. Oh is that
[323.76] JAB1A: what it was? Is that what it was? No no no we were flying through our connects we only had.
[329.44] Andy: Are you flying for it too? Yeah yeah. So do you rate the connect system then even now?
[338.32] JAB1A: No no because they the one thing that this new digital system brings is being able to deal with
[345.6] JAB1A: with interference. So I've seen the breakup of the image whereas on connects you literally get
[351.28] JAB1A: like a frame of a breakup and then it freezes or it stutters across the screen. So you get the same
[357.52] JAB1A: image but or it just goes black. So it had had no tolerance to any kind of interference whereas
[364.08] JAB1A: the videos I've seen so far they've got amazing tolerance and it just breaks up almost like analog
[368.8] Andy: but you can see it is square. Yeah but Stingy he sort of did like an initial like very rushed
[377.2] Andy: video because that's that's what you have to do when there's this embargo you know it's all like
[382.96] Andy: released it that released it that's what's happening right now with emax are releasing
[389.28] Andy: a new model and my feed is just full of it and that was the same same with DJI and you're given
[397.6] Andy: like a couple of days to us the product and it's just not long enough you need like a month or
[403.68] Andy: something. So Stingy's one yeah what he did was he took the uh on board recorded footage
[414.0] Andy: and he synced it with the footage that the goggles recorded. Now when the when when the goggles uh
[424.56] Andy: when the goggles not not break up but they they actually he said he he actually got a frozen
[433.92] Andy: picture for like 10 seconds or something like that and uh he had to use kind of muscle memory
[442.8] Andy: knowing the area to sort of just and and bang on the throttle to get some high and uh yeah so
[451.6] Andy: so what the and this is kind of a problem with not not just HD footage but analog when you start
[459.84] Andy: to get break uh you you get dropped frames and what the DJI system does is rather uh like record
[468.88] Andy: dropped frames it just skips them so when he synced his when he synced his goggle footage against
[476.48] Andy: his uh the recorded footage he had 14 seconds of footage missing and uh and then he kind so he
[486.32] Andy: sort of said I I kind of can't recommend this system I mean it's it's good for certain types
[492.8] Andy: of applications but if you're thinking about using the HDMI out from live stream uh yeah it's it's
[500.96] Andy: not going to be the thing that they said it was going to be I'm sure there'll be updates and stuff
[505.68] Andy: like that but uh yeah it's an interesting video and uh yeah massive respect to Kevin for making a
[514.8] Andy: second video the majority of the video is like this thing is amazing here's my affiliate link
[521.84] Andy: go and buy it kind of thing and he was like uh actually I found some problems with it so um yeah
[531.28] Andy: uh so it seems it's not as it's not as amazing as the what I would call
[537.6] Andy: adverts because they they're basically I think to me they're adverts those initial videos and then
[544.56] Andy: you get the real people who who get them and say oh actually I've lost 14 seconds of footage and
[551.6] Andy: nearly crashed and he actually said that the the delay went up to 300 milliseconds at one point
[559.44] Andy: as well which you don't want you know so it's it's not it's not bulletproof you know they say
[566.96] Andy: say like six milliseconds oh six milliseconds for the good 28 milliseconds uh full loop loop time
[577.04] Andy: and then I think uh maximum 50 and he was reading 300 so well I got one on the way uh so I'll let you
[588.0] Andy: you know I'll see if I get the same I think it is what the hobby needs I think it's like going to be
[594.8] Andy: you know when the hobby started there was this huge hype and it's it's just sort of level and if
[600.72] Andy: they can crack HD FPV uh then then I think that will create another spike of interest in in this
[610.72] Andy: thing so uh I'm all for it but uh I'm not sure it's quite ready also there's going to be a flurry
[618.72] Andy: of this stuff I'm not I'm sure some of you are aware but there is a company called uh hey I think
[626.8] Andy: it's called HD zero dot dot dot com oh the fact shot one yeah what about that you the model that
[635.44] Shane Hedges: they're going to give you to plug into your current give you the HD yeah yeah so so the
[643.44] Andy: fat shock system isn't really a fat shock system it's a rebrand of a it's basically all the same
[652.4] Andy: stuff you know there's there's this new technology that's come out that DJI is using and from what I
[658.24] Andy: can everybody else is using it just in different ways so I think um fat shark will come out with
[666.32] Andy: their version there's uh there's other companies that are working with the same technology I think
[673.76] JAB1A: the second okay sorry go on oh I was going to say that the really good thing about that
[679.2] JAB1A: HD zero that I've seen just just for initial looks at it is it's a 30 30 stack rather than a big
[684.4] JAB1A: watch of something you've got to find like sort of tape it into your quad these like the DJI one
[689.44] JAB1A: and stuff like that obviously just people taping it into the quad exactly the best sort of way and
[694.72] Andy: also it's just an FPV camera so you can still use your your GoPro so that I mean that's really
[702.64] Andy: what we need isn't it we don't we're on board recorder because no one's going to beat the quality
[708.08] Andy: of a GoPro so we just need a camera that does digital FPV the biggest issue is the DVR
[716.88] Andy: because if you plug that so it's going to be a ground station as far as I'm aware and that
[723.2] Andy: ground station is then going to have a HDMI out into your fat shark goggles and of course your DVR
[730.24] Andy: your fat shark goggles doesn't record HDMI DVR for me is priceless because if you if you
[738.4] Andy: you lose a model and throw a battery which happens to me every week then I'm back to the DVR to find
[744.8] Andy: it you know where's your back to beeper things that go beep I tell you what happens I tell you
[750.32] Andy: what happens with that the batteries because they're very tiny they wear out really quickly
[756.64] Andy: and it throws that as well you've you've proved it didn't you Wayne didn't you say that you were
[765.28] Andy: flying you had a crab and it threw the one of those beeper things and you found the beeper but
[771.28] Curry: not the quad oh I got it I had one go mid-air where it was on a cable and it's sort of I was
[778.32] Curry: doing a forward flip and it sort of worked it's like a trebuchet it sort of came around and then
[784.08] Curry: flipped out so it's like that's a strong beep there's a strong beep and I was just like oh
[788.96] Curry: it's just a small beeper here but yeah the quad wasn't too far away I still haven't actually
[793.52] Curry: lost a quad yet I'm doing all right there those empty plate but I use lots of lots of things
[801.92] Andy: that go beep on all my quads I tell you why I didn't I didn't spend too much time on those
[808.72] Andy: beepers because um prior to uh prior to like my my channel and stuff um I worked with like
[819.28] Andy: microcopters and like the technology just wasn't there so you had to use uh one s 100 milliamp
[827.84] Andy: lipo and the life that you got out of them was just shocking like they they would pop within
[836.72] Andy: two weeks and they couldn't hold a voltage and they'd be useless and that those are the same
[842.4] Andy: lipos and they're not protected by the way either no no lipo protection so they'll just explode
[850.48] Andy: so uh so that's why I don't use the lost model along beepers uh you know anyways there you go
[860.24] Andy: sorry for talking too long everyone don't want someone else pick another subject
[865.04] Curry: sorry I forgot what I deviated your original point was from now you were talking about something else
[871.76] Jack: my point was can I can I have a suggestion you know like how about we talk about stuff that drone
[879.28] Jack: is life sells and like what they're into the competition so drone is life lovingly sent us
[885.52] Jack: a load of goodies I'm going to break it up and if you guys send in to let drone out at gmail.com
[894.08] Jack: your favorite clips of the show over the the last couple of years um we'll pick the best ones
[899.28] Jack: that make us laugh little clips you can send like snippets um timestamps whatever and we're
[906.88] Jack: going to review them on the bonus pod and then whatever makes us laugh most we're going to give
[914.0] Jack: out the the prizes like to thank you guys so I've got a question what made you um like bring stuff
[923.6] Jack: like thunder power and like you know selling crossfires and you've brought over a few
[930.0] Shane Hedges: things that are quite hard to get always aim to yes because everybody else can sell
[939.6] Shane Hedges: over and over and over again and what we tend to define is that the people that
[946.48] Shane Hedges: hands that you can't get in this game so uh things like steam mr steel all the rest of it are all
[952.72] Shane Hedges: thunder power sponsored and people ask you know oh we need to get thunder power we need to get
[958.72] Shane Hedges: thunder power in and you know they are very expensive we did a core for dalar c stock
[968.72] Shane Hedges: originally acorn when we got acorn into the country do that we look for stuff that's different
[978.27] Shane Hedges: be
[980.19] Andy: i intend to be the same as everybody else that's that's great that that's it that that's a good
[986.83] Andy: niche i i wanna i want to try out some thunder uh power packs because uh that well just to
[994.99] Andy: compare them to the ones that i use because i i use tattoo and gmb and actually funnily enough gmb
[1002.75] Andy: are hard to get hold of in the uk uh what what's your opinion on gmb just you have one um
[1009.71] Andy: oh there's the the gowning stuff aren't they yeah they didn't we try some at the bottom that time
[1016.35] Shane Hedges: they say gmb because it's easier to say yeah when we first started around his life we actually had
[1023.71] Shane Hedges: gowning batteries here in stock we imported them in they came in they say very well um i actually
[1030.75] Shane Hedges: quite like them i thought they were very good yeah i find that if you put them on a bigger setup
[1038.27] Shane Hedges: took it if you made like a six inch quad then run them on 4x
[1043.63] Shane Hedges: they puffed in and an amount of a couple of flights and they were done
[1049.15] Andy: but like a balloon uh how long ago was this because then they're my they're among
[1055.47] Andy: tattoo and those are i mean they're doing success now if it wasn't for i i think it was also if it
[1064.19] Andy: wasn't for gm micros would be in real trouble because there aren't many battery suppliers
[1070.99] Andy: that offer like the really smaller batteries for the you know the cine works the the tiny
[1079.55] Andy: gmb are really good for that um so that i i just wondered you know if uh i i'm telling you this
[1090.59] Andy: because there are virtually zero ways to get gmb lipos in the uk so so maybe you could be
[1099.55] Andy: and i've got a contact by the way that could sort you out this is dr dealing going on
[1106.27] Andy: i don't really know well i'm just saying that i use gmb because uh i find that they don't
[1113.39] Andy: they have a good life cycle and they're decently propped and in the micro world they just dominate
[1121.07] Andy: so uh but i thought i would love to try a thunder power pack uh i'll i'll have to i'll have to get
[1129.07] Andy: one it's really it's really tricky at the moment though because you've got like four s and six s
[1135.15] Andy: battling with each other haven't we and it's like which one which one to go for i moved all
[1141.47] Shane Hedges: my racing rigs across to success uh a couple months ago i have not looked at yeah for for for
[1150.67] Andy: racing success is a no-brainer for freestyle i have an issue because freestyle models are
[1159.95] Andy: very heavy therefore the the more weight that there is the more current that it draws and i find
[1168.19] Andy: that um i've got a couple of six s freestyle copters and i still get voltage sag with them
[1176.43] Andy: which is comparable to four s voltage sag whereas with a lightweight race copter you don't get it
[1184.19] Andy: you don't experience it for sure so uh that that's my argument although freestyle rig i use um
[1194.51] Shane Hedges: and set up complete v2 kiss v2 throughout yeah same here don't you have to whack caps on the
[1201.95] JAB1A: kiss v v2 though for six s and fire extinguishers i'm joking i'm joking i'm joking i'm joking
[1213.23] Shane Hedges: not not the 32 success ones i'm using the new 25 oh the all-in-one thing individual ones
[1222.83] Andy: wow and it's surviving because i remember when when the 32 amp came out it was suggested that
[1231.79] Andy: uh i think it was 35 volt 3,300 micro farad low asr capacitors on each esc that's for the
[1241.55] Andy: 32 amp so you're not having any problem with six s four s pardon say that again sorry
[1251.15] Andy: four s oh so that's on four s so what about six s the power packs that thunder power sponsored
[1259.39] Andy: katie with so we're running four s but hv right oh oh sorry i'm getting confused right so you're
[1266.19] Andy: saying you're all your freestyle setups four therefore you don't need the caps and you can
[1272.19] Toby: run on got one what was what was that sugar rush sugar hv this one's had a bit of a tough life but
[1282.59] Toby: he's still still kicking i'm not aware of those what a sugar sugar rush is like is the label of
[1293.39] Toby: that particular spec of battery so it's the 15 i think this is 1550 isn't it 15 hundred
[1301.63] Toby: uh i can't even find 100 hv yeah 1500 hv so yeah the normal um thunder power adrenaline packs are
[1309.23] Toby: 13 just force four s not hv rated but they're still the massive amp rate in and first ratings
[1316.03] Toby: that you get from the thunder power packs um but these are just rated for the hv safely
[1324.43] Shane Hedges: i've you know i was quite happy strapped one of them to kisalia and i've got no gps yeah like this
[1330.83] Shane Hedges: this thing i sent it yeah miles yeah oh no problem whatsoever well i just want to throw
[1340.75] Andy: that over to kalsey then because i think kalsey you're still using 4m on your race setup is that
[1348.59] Andy: right uh yeah yeah i am have you got any intention in upgrading to 6s or are you just happy on
[1356.51] Kelsey: court well i would like to maybe move on 6s next year i'm not sure but so for now i'm just
[1365.17] Kelsey: going to run the rest of the season with what i've got since i don't really see any point in changing
[1370.37] Kelsey: it now i'd rather if i'm going to change anything change it as the season's over and then i've got
[1376.05] Andy: time to get used to whatever i've changed by the way if you're wondering how i know that it's
[1381.33] Andy: because i watch the delta hawk street and when you're flying i can see your voltage so
[1391.09] Andy: it's not like i've been like you know doing some heavy research or something i just noticed that
[1397.97] Andy: like there seems to be a split doesn't there between four and six yeah well i think to be
[1404.93] Andy: honest you're some talk you should see what i get through the post and what's written on it it's
[1413.41] Failsafe: just horrendous unless you're actually putting your setups i think it makes no difference
[1418.77] Andy: whatsoever if you're running for worse or success uh it is what you're talking about racing right
[1425.01] Andy: yeah is that because the race carters are light in general therefore they don't sag so much and
[1433.81] Toby: you're lowering the kv of the motors as well aren't you so you're effectively just keeping
[1438.69] Toby: the exact same setup yeah they are the speed and everything's the same it's just yeah you're
[1443.41] Andy: carrying a little bit more weight and it's just more efficient yeah you see i found with race
[1450.45] Andy: copters this this is just as a reviewer the 6s is just more consistent with the speed and the power
[1459.33] Andy: than 4s rather than the so yeah my question would be if 6s is more efficient can you get more laps
[1467.33] Failsafe: done no no no yes you can yes oh disagree with that yeah it's actually your point set up to the
[1476.37] Failsafe: extreme then yes yes you can let me let me tell you before it sags out and then you can't fly any
[1482.13] Shane Hedges: further and yeah that goes to sag out it just dies it doesn't sag it goes by that point in time
[1490.85] Andy: you will have done more laps i think i'm getting what i'm getting mixed up with is flight time
[1496.85] Andy: compared to laps so the reason 6s came in for uh for racing is that when you when the lipo is at
[1507.89] Andy: the end of its life like at the two two minute uh you can you can just keep going on the throttle
[1514.69] Andy: but with a 4s uh you've got that much voltage sag that you have to back off the throttle
[1521.65] Andy: um or otherwise you won't make it uh to the end it'll just drop out the sky but what i was getting
[1531.09] Andy: is if you have a 4s and a 6s equivalent lipo what hour you will not get a longer flight time
[1540.61] Andy: that's what i was trying to get at but yes you can technically get more lapsing because you can
[1545.65] Andy: stay on stay on the throttle longer but you will get back in a bit longer flight time here's me being
[1552.29] Andy: a non-racer commenting on this but to be honest i've just i've done a lot of i've done a lot of
[1558.77] Andy: work with lipo company on on this subject so um yeah it also it's also track dependent as well
[1567.41] Andy: i mean you know if the track's tight then you know 6s and 4s it's not going to be much different
[1574.69] Shane Hedges: there i i think you'll see on a on a track where you're doing split s and carousels and things
[1581.01] Shane Hedges: like that you'll see the voltage drop so much faster i got to get me some of these thunder
[1585.81] Andy: power batteries though and and try them against the gmb's and uh and see what happens when we
[1592.77] Shane Hedges: go to race events the last kind of race event jab has said to me can i borrow some of your
[1597.57] JAB1A: packs while we're there it is only because i can't afford new ones but yeah they are very nice they
[1606.61] Andy: are very nice that is the problem with thunder power they're they're 50 quid against you know
[1612.37] Andy: just what in price oh really what for the 4s or 6s come down why come to quit each
[1619.81] Andy: um also can they come down by 20 quid
[1626.53] Andy: i know i know they're popular because steel uses them right and you know he's the main guy out there
[1634.29] Shane Hedges: paying um 1106s on his kiss on his kiss alien his flight times are amazing have you got anything new
[1643.73] Andy: coming out are some new things on the way uh gmb batteries for example are you such a shield
[1654.85] Jack: no one mentioned emacs jesus christ god don't get him started there um there are some new
[1661.89] Andy: thunder power packs on the way i'm gonna have to buy some of those i i really want to try it i'll
[1667.33] Andy: save up for it and get some they are well worth it well i have no idea i was only in vegas like
[1673.41] Curry: last week no one told me they were based there so i could have picked them up you can go and see oh
[1677.17] Jack: wow why don't you bring on the meaning via Belgium like everyone else does what you mean that needs
[1684.37] Andy: explaining jack it does not need explaining well it does to me because i don't know what you mean
[1690.45] Andy: i'll tell you later all right the tanks reasons all right okay fair enough we've got some new
[1701.33] JAB1A: scs in f7 flight controllers on the way um nobody's seen yet i i hear a con springing out at f7s now
[1710.45] Toby: that'd be the first f7 that i try yeah yeah yeah same here my acorn fc for the moment so if i'm
[1716.45] Toby: using the f4 i won't change that until the bigger one better one comes off do you uh do you know
[1721.73] Andy: what's happening with it do you know what's happening with the f7 that if you if you plug
[1728.13] Andy: them in via the usb and set them up they get extremely warm i think that's just the the
[1736.29] Andy: processing power in them yeah but what i've been doing with that f7s is i've been putting make
[1744.85] Andy: sure that you put the core tab on the on-screen display and i saw a reading of like 93 degrees
[1753.09] Andy: c and and that is enough to you know sorry cook or not i shouldn't say i say cook
[1763.25] Andy: come on i've been educating you book book
[1768.77] Andy: cook what was that cook cook look look good boy how did how did you say how did you say boots jack
[1784.37] Andy: mutant now
[1785.17] Andy: do you say but so do you say boot
[1793.73] Andy: but i bet i actually i bet further up north north i think they say look book is that true
[1802.61] Andy: kelsey i say look and book i don't say boot call there you go you see i think that i think that
[1809.17] Andy: stops at liverpool does it or am i right i think what's happening is andy has proved to be the most
[1815.73] Curry: northern person in this call now just from the look of luke and duke it's super that's not that's
[1823.17] Andy: not true they're like they're like an hour and a half more north than me yeah but spiritually
[1829.57] Andy: you've got it
[1833.73] Shane Hedges: oh my god the next time you guys meet fran you can ask her fran speak very well spoken
[1845.25] Jack: fran's like receive pronunciation she's a classy bird
[1853.73] Jack: don't don't get on the wrong side of fran she's still got pink hair
[1856.53] Jack: yeah no it's purple now
[1862.77] Andy: i dyed my hair blue the other day it went horrendously wrong as you can see
[1871.49] Shane Hedges: so somebody go to kimmy do the the live broadcast they always do a ginger hour
[1877.97] Shane Hedges: yeah she's got ginger hair because that's a quality hour right there
[1883.57] Jack: what's um do you all drink dark and stormies and all that sort of stuff i don't know what dark and
[1891.25] Jack: stormy is like ginger beer and something else in it rum sounds like another weird thing that you're
[1897.57] Andy: into yeah for me enough jack doesn't drink but the other stuff is just unmentioned
[1907.57] Jack: so this time for andy rc to get hard on uh what's all this uh demac freestyle
[1918.61] Andy: racing malaki all about well it's a it's basically a tiny hawk with the duct removed so um it's
[1928.53] Andy: pretty good but i didn't like the tune so i came up with my own tune i've uh is it better than
[1934.29] Curry: joshua bardwell's tune he is the master of tuning don't forget yeah i see we're talking about
[1940.53] Shane Hedges: oh that's right didn't i see andy rc uh tune or is it uav ventures uav futures yeah
[1948.93] Andy: it was a bit of a joke really because of course i'm not better than joss josh at tuning but uh
[1956.13] Andy: diatone released a model it was a 6s 3 inch model and out of the box it just
[1964.77] Andy: it just it just would not fly whatsoever and uh so i put a tune on and uh it and like i like to do
[1977.01] Andy: like speed test because it can tell you especially if you've got a current meter as well it can tell
[1982.85] Andy: you what's the best battery and and and the best absolute set and uh yeah so i i got it flying
[1991.49] Andy: nicely with a tune and uh uav futures was received it and he doesn't he doesn't really
[1998.05] Andy: do tuners so he basically said i'm not going to review this this thing doesn't even fly
[2003.73] Andy: and then i released my vid and it recorded the fastest speed of any model so we're talking
[2011.25] Andy: five inch six inch four inch it did 125 mile per hour sorry 124 mile per hour and it's now
[2020.21] Andy: doing 125 mile per hour uh which is the quickest i've ever recorded and uh so yes you made this
[2029.81] Andy: video because the diatone sent him that tune and it turned a quad that didn't fly into the fastest
[2037.65] Andy: that you can buy off the market and i think he sort of went overboard a little bit because he
[2043.33] Andy: was like how can it be that you can just put a tune on it and it turns a quad that won't fly
[2050.05] Andy: 20 mile per hour and it goes 125 mile per hour so he made that video it helped me a lot i mean
[2057.25] Andy: the the day i saw it i mean i i don't like uh you know uh you know being in the limelight or whatever
[2066.05] Andy: like that so when i saw that video come up like one of the big uh fpv channels with my picture
[2074.13] Andy: in the thumbnail i was like oh my god today's right let's get the diasypam out today
[2082.29] Andy: but it actually actually did me a favor because people started using that tune and
[2088.29] Andy: uh uh you know i but but i think with josh he he sticks to his lane and uh fun funnily enough i i
[2097.81] Andy: sort of had a bit of a joke with him today because uh i i want to be friends with josh on facebook
[2104.21] Andy: because he sort of sticks he sticks in his five inch lane and i like the smaller micro stuff just
[2111.97] Andy: because i don't have the space to to fly um so i love josh and uav tech who are the two guys that
[2122.45] Andy: you know know how to properly tune a quad to take take this mod and make it perfect because
[2128.61] Andy: my tunes it get it gets it flying but i wouldn't say it was perfect i mean it you know i i'm happy
[2135.17] Andy: with it but uh that's that's what it was about and i believe josh has got that model and he hasn't
[2140.69] Andy: released a video about it yet so maybe he's struggling with it i don't know i i don't know
[2147.49] Shane Hedges: but i saw them yeah they said oh you know we've got this quad and it flies at crap well out of
[2153.41] Andy: the box it would well out of the box it would twitch you like crazy then if you went because
[2160.05] Andy: it runs on bit of light four and and if you use the community settings for a three inch and arm
[2168.53] Andy: it it just flies to the sky on its own like as soon as you arm it flies to the sky so i was like
[2175.33] Andy: nah nah i need to i spent i think it was uh like like three or four days coming up with a tune that
[2182.45] Andy: that made it fly and it it flew i mean it was the fastest quad there so uh i'd love to see someone
[2193.65] Andy: like calc fly one of these insanely fast three inches because i i mean it hasn't happened
[2201.97] Andy: but i'm sure if you put one of these three inches against the five and it would blitz it on a uh
[2209.89] Andy: just from the the speed and they they they accelerate quicker no that's not that's not
[2216.05] Andy: three inch man that's the time i mean we're talking 120 the the fastest five inch model i've
[2223.49] Andy: ever recorded top speed is like 106 mile per hour the fastest three inch 125 but it's how it
[2232.29] Andy: accelerates because it's got so little drag it's it it accelerates quicker it slows quicker
[2241.09] Curry: andy going back to this emacs thing i'm just looking at it because i don't know anything about
[2247.41] Curry: it and i notice it still has those little battery connectors although it seems to use two in series
[2254.45] Curry: is that a bottleneck because i was trying out the tiny hawk s today and i noticed on 2s the sag on
[2262.05] Curry: the battery is terrible and those little battery connectors don't exactly let through many amps do
[2268.93] Andy: you really don't want me to get into it because i could talk i could talk for about an hour
[2276.05] Andy: i'll get back to you but calsy's it looks like she just pulled a three inch model out
[2281.49] Andy: what what model's that what's that you've got there uh it's a mini what is it a mac the mac
[2289.17] Kelsey: an idq mac frame mini version of that my friend in florida actually built it for me this is pretty
[2295.89] Andy: fast what uh what size motors are they and what kv uh well then are they are for a 14 0 something
[2307.81] Andy: 15 0 something 18 0 6 is 14 0 7 yeah 14 0 7 is good that'll get you 105 mile per hour what
[2316.85] Andy: props are they the gem fan flash 30 52 yeah yeah gem fan 50 uh 30 52 yeah yeah yeah that
[2326.37] Andy: that would be a quick model then have you have you tried to race it now i haven't no i've actually
[2332.53] Kelsey: not phoned in a while i know i kind of i don't know just not so much like what is is that because
[2341.17] Andy: you didn't like the feel against the the way a five inch flies or or you just you know not aware
[2349.65] Kelsey: that they're better than five inch there's no i didn't like it it's just i just haven't flown it
[2356.85] Andy: i don't really have an excuse yeah yeah that would be a quick model yeah you'd have to check
[2365.65] Andy: you have to check the weight though because you have to get them pretty light we're talking on
[2369.97] Andy: under 250 grams uh like all the way well well let's wait you want about 135 grams of that
[2385.62] Andy: props on it no shame are they really the gems i'm like i've not seen them in that color
[2392.9] Andy: 150 grams or yellow gem fans yeah yeah that would be quick that would it about 138 grams
[2403.62] Andy: is the sweet spot but 100 yeah it should be pretty good uh yeah get sticker 850 milliamp
[2412.82] Andy: has it got an xt60 connector yeah yeah that's a problem you see the three inch mostly use xt30
[2421.14] Andy: connectors uh but you can get an adapter or something like that somewhere the best the
[2429.3] Andy: best lipo to use with that unless thunder power make a lipo would be the the tattoo r-line uh
[2437.54] Andy: 850 milliamp and you you'd be uh yeah i reckon you'd be on par with a five inch with that one
[2445.86] Andy: but yeah there are some three inch models out there i think well k and a five but that's just
[2452.02] Andy: my i'm not a racer so i could be wrong i tried to get thomas uh you know bms web uh but uh he's he's
[2462.18] Andy: busy just winning everything so what who am i to tell him what to fly yeah thomas is too busy to
[2469.54] Curry: winning everything to accept your advice about how to win stuff better yeah there actually have
[2475.46] Andy: a bit of race between thomas and min chan i don't think so i think we asked him didn't we and i think
[2481.78] Curry: he said no when he came on the show challenge it's a freaking robot yes it's amazing oh yeah bms
[2491.3] Curry: is uh in the chat so he raced min chan in ningbu but had to run 4s because he exploded all his
[2497.3] Curry: 6s quads thomas got second oh oh and thomas is terrible on social media this is very unlike a
[2504.02] Jack: teenager okay he's not really a teenager he's sort of like a 28 year old in a i don't know how old
[2517.3] Jack: he is bobby with like a 12 year old fortnight championships reactions also he might be like 20
[2527.62] Curry: now see i might be wrong in saying he's like a teenager has anyone been flying today
[2533.86] Curry: i did too where where did you fly um i found my old field that got closed off to developers i
[2541.22] Curry: found a new path in where i could fly around but at some point a dog bit the quad out of the air
[2548.02] Curry: and then that was weird but it's not really very exciting because you don't see the dog i'm just
[2554.5] Curry: coming into landing and suddenly it's like spinning out like madly i was like what was
[2558.42] Curry: that and this dog feels very happy he's running off wagging his tail no owner to be seen which
[2564.42] Shane Hedges: is annoying that's good anybody flying this weekend
[2569.7] JAB1A: it's like the weather going to be like me and james are
[2573.86] JAB1A: yeah come back bang a race in and then
[2579.06] Jack: woolly you mean Cardiff yeah oh man banger racing
[2588.42] Curry: it should be caught wicked that was good did you see james video where he had the uh
[2592.98] Curry: a little what i thought was a little bit of mud on the lens yeah what it looked like and it came
[2597.78] Curry: down it looked like when you posted that picture on instagram i thought oh it's crashed and
[2602.1] Curry: something's running over and cracked it in mud i didn't think it was just a bit of spray because
[2606.26] JAB1A: that was amazing it it was twice the weight like the the back arms were all taped up all inside
[2612.26] JAB1A: the camera completely filled up inside there like all in behind it and everything it properly
[2617.38] JAB1A: splattered onto the front of the quad no luckily luckily um you can always see through the fpv
[2623.38] JAB1A: luckily i've never been completely blocked out from anything um with uh anything going on the
[2629.06] JAB1A: lens you can always see whether it's green or it's gray so you know whether it would be a grass or
[2633.46] JAB1A: tarmac it's like she puts down the green bit yeah yeah i've always wanted to try and put a bit of
[2640.66] Jack: rain x on the lens because i reckon that would really work make it a bit hydrophobic
[2647.3] Kelsey: did it work it actually did didn't it yeah you just got west on training yeah western was raining
[2654.1] Kelsey: really bad yeah keep flying it though does work though yeah i've always wondered about that
[2663.54] Jack: because i've always been well impressed with it like raining you know other other water repellent
[2670.18] Jack: things are available let's turn out the drain x
[2676.18] Jack: weather flying
[2680.02] Jack: don't forget guys send in your clips and everything and europe could be in a chance
[2685.22] Jack: to win this your best or worst clips have let's grown out i don't send this about this week
[2691.62] Curry: because it's not it's not funny and it's not clever it's just
[2694.18] Curry: disaster trying to get on the internet at the moment i know uh don't forget next week
[2700.5] Jack: andy arcy's birthday or is it the week after it's in a it's in april jack don't mind it
[2709.94] Andy: it is yeah it's the week after so i actually i actually got my uh exam results on my birthday
[2718.74] Andy: i think we talked about that last time but uh it was not a great day it was not a good
[2724.9] Jack: present i'll tell you that oh go ahead uh right you've been joined by andrew slash frank in the
[2734.26] Andy: background making stuff work goodbye andy arcy bunjor seen as tony has just bugged off somewhere
[2744.02] Jack: curry kitten goodbye jab one a
[2750.9] Jack: you ever thought about it being a one like the poster size
[2756.5] JAB1A: no i took one what one when you're doing the alphabetical thing in computers and that like
[2761.78] JAB1A: one is before a so it was one and then a so someone already had jab someone really had one
[2768.98] JAB1A: and nobody had jab one a so everything was jab one a so i i always wish it was big jab
[2775.14] Jack: but you know you know you roll the dice so you got it yeah no worries kelsey fpv bye session fpv
[2784.42] Jack: see you later guys and shane from uh no no join his life you are now part of lecture and
[2792.98] Jack: there's a moth jack skater moths in fact uh and i've been jack right until i fly thank you and
[2799.62] Jack: good night bye see you bye telemetry lost is there anything i can hit the moth with