=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 207 ===
Title: LDO 207 - MKME Lab and Tony Cheated On Me...
Recorded: 2019-08-15
Hosts: Andy, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Eric "MKME" German
Total audience: 2,175
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ip6-Mh7DIj8); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/666676055-letsdroneout-ldo-207-mkme-lab-and-tony-cheated-on-me.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hey guys it's Jack here, big massive shout out to our patreons. So these guys are the guys who donate
[9.84] Jack: for the editing and they really do make a huge difference to keep the show alive.
[17.12] Jack: We've been sponsored by Art Faulkner, Ferdy Evers, Mikey Dread and Under Fluke.
[23.2] Jack: These guys are absolute legends. Thank you so much and see you next show.
[30.0] Jack: And welcome to another fantastic episode of Stand Alone. We're still here, let's drone out.
[68.24] Jack: Massive thank you to Don Robinson and our patreons and anyone who gives us money.
[74.72] Jack: Tonight we are joined by my little Tony, Eric from MKME Make Me Labs.
[84.64] Jack: Hello. He's a proper YouTuber, verified everything. He's totally legit.
[93.68] AndyRC: Think you'll find Jack, I'm also verified but you never watch my videos so you wouldn't know.
[99.52] Jack: I do, I do. He's, well I mean like he comes up with a spanner and everything.
[107.92] Curry: Why don't we check? In terms of legitimacy we should ask how many
[112.32] Curry: strikes they've got each and we'll see who's more legitimate. Is that a fair assessment?
[117.92] AndyRC: Well how do strikes make you legit or not?
[122.08] AndyRC: He's Canadian, he's never going to have any strikes.
[129.12] Eric: What was that Jack? Maybe I haven't rocked the boat near enough. There you go. What was that?
[134.96] AndyRC: Jack, you were telling me about the walkthroughs were broke or something like that and so
[143.12] AndyRC: people were just putting money on top of it. Where's it to be?
[145.84] Jack: Oh hang on, that's a segment for later.
[148.24] Jack: Ah okay.
[148.72] Jack: That's a segment for later. Stop it. I've done it.
[151.84] Tony: Carry on introducing.
[153.2] Tony: I've done my Knappestan research.
[155.92] Tony: Keep going.
[157.92] Jack: We're joined by Danny.
[160.08] Jack: Oh is that me?
[161.04] Jack: Hello.
[162.0] Jack: Well apparently what me and Nandy are saying call him.
[168.16] AndyRC: You shouldn't stop saying things like that.
[171.76] Jack: You do. You're like is daddy back yet? I was like I think so.
[177.44] Jack: Sophie if you're listening to this.
[179.6] Curry: She's not listening to this. She's got more things to do on her phone.
[182.96] Jack: No, no, in the future when Curry's dead and you're listening to it.
[188.24] Jack: And like you're crying because you actually miss him.
[192.56] Jack: Remember how much he embarrasses you and how much his friends embarrass you
[196.96] Jack: and then just think you've got the inheritance and you're glad he's dead.
[202.56] Jack: On that note, are we all joined by Andy RC?
[210.08] Jack: Hello everybody.
[211.52] Jack: Who's also verified.
[214.32] AndyRC: Yeah, I think it was a mistake that they verified me though because
[220.48] AndyRC: when I hit 10,000 subscribers I got verified.
[223.28] AndyRC: I was like what's this?
[224.72] AndyRC: I thought you had to be like there are people with millions of subscribers that aren't verified.
[230.08] AndyRC: So I think mistake on Google especially as they gave me a copyright strike
[235.12] AndyRC: and I still got the tick thing.
[236.88] AndyRC: So I don't know what it actually does.
[239.12] AndyRC: Just the tick.
[240.16] AndyRC: Can anyone tell any privilege with a tick?
[244.16] AndyRC: It doesn't do anything.
[247.2] Eric: I only got mine because I pushed back when we had partner managers years ago
[251.84] Eric: and he got it for me when I had just, I used to do a weekly live show.
[256.72] Eric: If you go back on my channel, I did tech live for like five years and every Monday
[261.12] Eric: and I had these same issues periodically and it was the ingest servers
[266.48] Eric: and specifically it was the server in Chicago that was my problem.
[271.04] Eric: If I'd VPN around that so that I'd trick it and come in anywhere but Chicago,
[276.8] Eric: which is closest to me, I'd have no problems.
[280.0] Eric: But it was definitely the YouTube side.
[282.72] Eric: I don't think you guys should feel bad.
[284.72] Eric: I imagine this is.
[285.52] Curry: Oh, it's saying it's come back again.
[288.32] Curry: Is it people saying this?
[289.84] AndyRC: Yeah, it's.
[290.72] AndyRC: Oh yeah, it's come back again.
[292.24] AndyRC: How much of a delay?
[294.0] AndyRC: Hang on.
[294.64] AndyRC: Man, it seems to be up.
[296.08] Tony: Is it YouTube doing this?
[300.8] Tony: It's got to be.
[301.6] Tony: No comment.
[304.24] Eric: I just don't think they like the live stuff anymore.
[307.12] Eric: They definitely don't favor it in bandwidth, at least not for smaller channels.
[311.12] Eric: I did get that out of my partner manager too.
[313.2] Eric: I got them to admit that they do throttle bandwidth according to subscriber base.
[317.36] Eric: There you go.
[321.92] Tony: You can tell you watch.
[323.12] Tony: I'll watch mountain bike videos and people with lots of subscribers
[327.76] Tony: have got brilliant picture going through the woods really fast.
[330.96] Tony: You can see the trees and stuff like that.
[333.28] Tony: When you watch mine back, pixelated mess.
[337.04] AndyRC: Because I've got like two subscribers.
[339.68] AndyRC: So does this new system take up more bandwidth and hangouts?
[343.76] Tony: I don't know, but apparently we're all good.
[345.84] Tony: Let's talk some drone stuff.
[348.4] Tony: Okay.
[348.8] Tony: Has anyone seen?
[351.04] Tony: I'll see models review of his only being able to fly 25.
[357.2] Tony: Well, what was it?
[358.16] Tony: 250 meters using 25 milliwatts on the new DJI system.
[365.44] Curry: Yes.
[366.16] Curry: Yes, I have.
[367.68] Tony: I just started.
[369.84] Curry: Well, it didn't seem very good, did it?
[371.76] Curry: Although one could argue, of course, that if you were the 25 milliwatt setting is supposed
[376.96] Curry: to be for racing and a race course is just about going to fit in that, I suppose, isn't it?
[383.44] Curry: Although it's lighting up.
[386.48] Curry: Actually, I just started watching Tommy's follow up one.
[389.76] Curry: It seems it seems to come.
[391.2] AndyRC: I see that track also.
[392.88] Curry: Yeah.
[393.12] Curry: The current plan is to release your initial.
[395.36] Curry: This is brilliant.
[396.08] Curry: Here's my link.
[397.04] Curry: And then a week later, review it and say, actually, it's a bit crap.
[401.44] Curry: Here's how it goes badly wrong.
[403.44] Curry: Where do you get your ones, Andy?
[404.56] Curry: Did the DJI send you on them?
[406.8] AndyRC: No.
[407.76] Curry: You bought it.
[409.2] AndyRC: I smuggled one into the country.
[411.2] AndyRC: I smuggled one into the country.
[414.0] AndyRC: Please explain.
[415.12] Tony: You don't have to use 25 milliwatt, do you?
[418.8] AndyRC: No one does.
[420.08] AndyRC: No one does.
[421.52] AndyRC: There is already a...
[423.28] AndyRC: I'm not going to say it.
[424.4] AndyRC: Carry on.
[424.88] AndyRC: There's already an unlocker.
[426.0] AndyRC: There's already an unlocker.
[428.72] AndyRC: It's the same system in the end, it turns out.
[430.88] AndyRC: Yeah.
[431.76] Curry: Zero FPV is just saying, oh, my God, just released a new video.
[435.12] Curry: I just started watching it whilst we were waiting to set up.
[438.48] Curry: And they did the thing where he's just...
[440.64] Curry: I only watched about 10 minutes of it, but he was just flying out.
[443.12] Curry: He's about 50 meters away, and he gets somebody to turn on next to him.
[449.04] Curry: And he has a complete lockup.
[450.72] Curry: The screen just locks.
[453.44] Curry: It's still image, so he crashes and stuff.
[456.08] AndyRC: That's going to happen.
[456.96] AndyRC: That's why everybody's digital TV locked up when I was using analog on...
[462.56] Tony: I thought it would be the other way around.
[464.56] Tony: I'm sure you said, Andy, if it would be DJI would take over the analog stuff.
[474.08] AndyRC: I mean, knock out each other, I would have thought.
[477.36] AndyRC: I'd have thought they would both.
[480.48] AndyRC: I'm not sure.
[482.0] AndyRC: Yeah, when I did it, yeah, analog.
[487.44] AndyRC: It was the digital that got knocked out, and analog was fine.
[492.88] Tony: Oh, okay.
[494.4] Tony: I thought when I listened back that you said it was the other way around.
[497.52] AndyRC: No, no.
[497.92] AndyRC: So what did Tommy...
[499.44] AndyRC: I haven't seen the video, Wayne.
[501.52] AndyRC: What did Tommy find that when he turned his analog on, it locked out the DJI stuff,
[506.8] AndyRC: but analog was fine?
[508.64] Curry: Well, I haven't got that far, but he was flying.
[511.04] Curry: He got his friend to turn on next to him, because he's got his DVR recording,
[515.68] Curry: and that just completely locked.
[517.44] Curry: So he just fell out of the sky instantly.
[520.0] Curry: So there was no interference.
[521.36] Curry: There was no pixelation.
[522.32] Curry: There was no warning.
[523.12] Curry: It was just frame phrase or freeze frame.
[526.64] Tony: It looks like we've flown too far away from you.
[531.6] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah, you've turned into the blob that I was last week for some reason.
[537.12] AndyRC: At least your turn to be the blob this week for some reason.
[541.04] AndyRC: You were fine, and then it should just become a blob.
[543.68] AndyRC: I wonder what happens if you turn your video off and on and stuff.
[548.4] AndyRC: No, he's not blobby anymore, but he is not.
[550.64] AndyRC: No, he's blobby when he talks, and I'm not talking about his weight either.
[556.0] AndyRC: If you click on him, he's blobby.
[558.32] AndyRC: Anyways, we should talk to our guests that we have.
[562.64] AndyRC: Yeah.
[563.12] AndyRC: I know.
[564.0] Curry: Eric, can you tell me where DGI digital stuff is interesting to you?
[571.28] Eric: Yeah, I've been following it, just because obviously it seems like where things are
[576.24] Eric: headed eventually.
[577.6] Eric: Definitely not there yet, and Bruce said it really good in his first video there,
[582.88] Eric: and I think, yeah, it was in his first video when he kind of just did the unboxing,
[586.96] Eric: but just stared at the box, and he said somebody asked him whether he was going to take it
[591.2] Eric: apart, and his answer was no, because it would cost me a ridiculous amount of money if I did,
[597.68] Eric: because it was on loan to him, and I said that right there is the answer to the questions.
[603.04] Eric: If you can't take the unit apart because you will go bankrupt and go broke touching it,
[609.84] Eric: it's not ready for prime time yet.
[611.68] Eric: It's just for early adopters.
[614.16] Eric: Just that alone.
[615.44] Eric: Not to mention the performance problems.
[617.44] AndyRC: That's interesting.
[618.32] AndyRC: I didn't realize that he'd had one on loan, because I got offered one on loan, and I'm like,
[626.56] AndyRC: no way.
[628.08] AndyRC: No way.
[630.48] AndyRC: What do you want me to do free advertising for you?
[633.04] Tony: That's all it was, and if you break it, you've got to pay for it and stuff.
[639.12] AndyRC: Oh, yeah, it's got to come back in the condition that you sent it,
[642.64] Tony: which is why Bruce can't take it apart.
[645.44] Tony: They've got so much money, man.
[649.12] Tony: Why do they need to save stuff?
[652.48] AndyRC: I'm having a middle token in the bathroom.
[658.32] AndyRC: How come I can still hear Jack, but I can't see him?
[661.52] SPEAKER_02: He's joined on another device in the bathroom.
[667.2] AndyRC: Why?
[669.28] AndyRC: Is he using that?
[670.96] SPEAKER_02: Is he using the bathroom?
[672.72] SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
[673.36] SPEAKER_02: I might have just scared him off, because I'm a scary bloke.
[676.16] AndyRC: Are we about to hear something really horrendous?
[680.88] Tony: And he's in the bathroom.
[682.48] Tony: Oh, my God.
[685.04] AndyRC: Well, let me ask Eric this.
[687.12] AndyRC: You're not a blub anymore, right?
[688.72] AndyRC: Carry on.
[689.6] Curry: Okay.
[690.08] Curry: I was going to ask Eric if he can tell us a little bit about his channel,
[693.04] Curry: because it's not just drones.
[694.64] Curry: It's all sort of electronics and building stuff and fixing stuff,
[698.4] Curry: which is quite interesting if you're into that sort of stuff.
[701.6] Curry: What's your sales pitch there, Eric?
[702.96] Curry: What are you up to?
[705.2] Eric: I run a YouTube channel exactly how you should not run one.
[709.68] Eric: I upload whatever I'm interested in and working on at the time.
[714.24] AndyRC: That's how you should run it.
[716.4] Eric: Not if you want to build a channel.
[719.44] Eric: This summer, when I switched to...
[721.6] Eric: I've gone back to some of my outdoors projects,
[723.84] Eric: because it's beautiful outside in the northern hemisphere,
[726.4] Eric: and you get massive exoduses of people unsubscribing.
[730.88] Eric: But anyway, I do electronics a lot, mainly Arduino,
[734.24] Eric: Raspberry Pi electronics, 3D printing, some quad stuff,
[739.52] Eric: as you guys know.
[741.6] Eric: Play with older equipment, X215 Pro, and old red bottom stuff,
[747.04] Eric: and old one-shot speed controls, so I don't rock the new equipment.
[752.0] Eric: I just play with what interests me at the time.
[755.28] AndyRC: I think that's the best way to do it, though,
[757.36] AndyRC: because all of these people that go...
[762.08] AndyRC: We all know there's two routes to getting subscribers,
[767.52] AndyRC: and that is vlogging and gaming,
[771.04] AndyRC: and you tend to find that those people,
[776.08] AndyRC: they start to absolutely despise what they do.
[780.96] AndyRC: If you look at Casey Neistat, for example,
[784.72] AndyRC: I don't think we've heard of him for a month.
[788.56] AndyRC: I know he's moving to LA,
[790.24] AndyRC: but he goes for long periods of time,
[793.92] AndyRC: and you can clearly see that he's not enjoying it.
[796.48] AndyRC: Fun for Louis, you might not be aware of him.
[801.28] AndyRC: He's stopped daily vlogging,
[803.6] AndyRC: and you can clearly tell throughout watching his videos
[807.36] AndyRC: that he was not enjoying it anymore.
[809.68] AndyRC: So, I would rather...
[814.48] AndyRC: My channel doesn't grow as much as the others,
[817.28] AndyRC: but I would rather do stuff that interests me
[821.76] AndyRC: than do something just because it's popular.
[827.76] AndyRC: It'll get you more subscribers or whatever.
[830.8] Eric: Yeah, that's what I do it for,
[832.0] Eric: is just strictly to share what I'm up to and what I find fun,
[835.44] Eric: and that changes.
[836.4] Eric: It waxes and wanes by season,
[838.32] Eric: and what I have available,
[839.76] Eric: and what I'm kind of excited about.
[842.56] Eric: A lot of people follow along.
[843.84] Eric: There's the diehards that have been with me
[845.84] Eric: for nearly a decade or more,
[848.48] Eric: and then some people come and go.
[851.44] Eric: Some videos get lots of views.
[853.04] Eric: Some videos don't.
[854.96] Eric: I don't put it up there.
[857.04] Eric: I have a daytime job, a good job that I like very much.
[860.4] Eric: So, it's just fun.
[862.96] Eric: It's a fun hobby.
[863.76] Eric: It's a self-sustaining hobby.
[865.36] Eric: What is it you do for your day job, then?
[866.96] Jack: Hunt Bears.
[867.68] Jack: He's Canadian.
[870.48] Curry: Well, I'm visiting the west of Canada many times.
[876.0] Curry: Everybody I talk to has at least one bear story
[878.64] Curry: where they were in the woods and a bear came along
[880.88] Curry: and they had to do something.
[882.4] Curry: But I don't know where abouts you are, I reckon.
[884.16] Curry: Are you in the east or the middle or the west?
[886.0] Eric: I'm right in Southwestern Ontario,
[888.08] Eric: which is mainly where the bulk of the population is.
[892.4] Eric: So, it's highly populated, not far from Toronto.
[895.6] Eric: So, you and I have a bear story, I guess.
[897.68] Eric: There's not very many around here, the odd one here and there,
[900.24] Eric: but it's not too far to go to run into them.
[903.28] Eric: A lot of moose, not too far from here.
[906.24] Eric: Moose are deadly, aren't they?
[907.36] Eric: They're really angry.
[908.32] Eric: Way worse than a bear.
[910.16] Eric: I'd be much more concerned about moose
[912.32] Eric: if I'm up in the north than I am about bears.
[914.64] Eric: Bears take off.
[915.52] Eric: They run away.
[916.24] Eric: Moose don't.
[917.92] Tony: Talking of subscribers, I'd like to thank all of us.
[921.52] Tony: I'm just going to go through the chat quickly.
[923.6] Tony: So, we've got Southwest Kitty in the chat.
[926.08] Tony: We've got Rob Britton.
[927.12] Tony: Thank you.
[927.68] Tony: South Airy's in the chat.
[929.84] Tony: Lurgy, what's up?
[931.28] Tony: Owen Kelligan.
[932.48] Tony: We've got AudioGeek, MrFruitCakes.
[939.04] Tony: I'm just trying to find some more.
[942.14] Tony: FXNode, Spider, DroneRacer101, DoubleA.
[952.45] Tony: Hey, by the way, it's so terrific.
[955.97] Tony: So, I just want to say thank you
[957.57] Tony: for all you guys for hanging in here with us
[960.05] Tony: while we go through this transition
[961.97] Tony: from Google Hangouts that are taking it away.
[964.61] Jack: Mate, I'm just a female.
[966.53] Tony: And we're trying to do this and make it better for you guys.
[970.77] Tony: Can I just say it?
[971.65] Tony: Sorry, it's got a bit of pants.
[972.93] Tony: Zero, hello.
[974.29] AndyRC: It's good to...
[976.05] AndyRC: It's my audio coming through.
[977.57] AndyRC: Can you hear me okay?
[978.53] AndyRC: Hey, what?
[980.69] AndyRC: All good, Andy.
[982.05] Jack: Please do the talking stats.
[985.33] AndyRC: Oh, no.
[987.01] AndyRC: We've got that.
[989.49] AndyRC: I just want to say this one thing
[990.93] AndyRC: and then I'm going to say nothing.
[992.13] AndyRC: It's great to see DroneRacer101 back
[997.01] AndyRC: for whatever reason you haven't been posting
[999.41] AndyRC: and how you've been busy, work and everything like that.
[1002.29] AndyRC: I miss NJ.
[1005.25] AndyRC: We all miss NJ also.
[1008.21] AndyRC: When he's not guitar-ing, he's rocket-leaking.
[1011.73] AndyRC: Come back, NJ.
[1012.93] Curry: All collecting watches
[1014.29] Curry: from what I can tell for an Instagram post.
[1016.37] Tony: Yeah, man.
[1018.21] Tony: I just wanted to thank everyone for bearing with us
[1020.69] Tony: while we go through this transition.
[1022.77] Jack: Bear, mooting.
[1024.21] Jack: Mooting with us.
[1025.65] Curry: Yes, Tony is at an exciting stage for all of us
[1028.77] Curry: and we're keen to see it going to come.
[1031.17] Curry: It will be Tony with an eye and a little apostrophe.
[1033.73] Tony: I was actually going to be...
[1036.05] Andy: If I was a girl, I was going to be called Tony.
[1039.41] Andy: I posted a picture today of Tony's, part of Tony's transition.
[1045.17] Tony: That was so funny.
[1047.81] Tony: When I woke up this morning, I looked and you just look at Jack's face.
[1052.45] Tony: It's like...
[1055.01] Tony: I don't know why.
[1057.41] Curry: Were you actually holding hands in that or were you skipping along?
[1061.57] AndyRC: Skipped and everything.
[1062.85] AndyRC: I had to do a lot of work to that picture
[1065.33] AndyRC: because it was really out of focus, which is why it's grainy.
[1068.37] AndyRC: So I had to sharpen it.
[1071.41] AndyRC: Otherwise, it was completely blurred.
[1074.21] AndyRC: I just got it to a point where you could just see Jack's expression
[1077.73] AndyRC: and I was like...
[1080.61] Jack: Tony's doing something that means he's comfortable in his sexuality.
[1086.85] AndyRC: He was doing it just to annoy you, you see.
[1090.13] AndyRC: That's why I loved it.
[1093.33] Jack: I'm very happy for you two.
[1098.29] Curry: That's the excuse.
[1099.33] Curry: When Tony says things like,
[1100.61] Curry: yeah, I had sex with Andy R.C. but just to annoy Jack, it's like, really?
[1108.29] Jack: It's not going if it's an annoying show.
[1110.21] Tony: Right, hold on, hold on, hold on, stop.
[1112.61] Tony: The sky will please.
[1116.05] Curry: Any views expressed by any guests, or including me,
[1119.41] Curry: on this show are personal and may not reflect the views of hosts
[1122.21] Curry: or any participant of the show.
[1124.61] Tony: Thank you very much.
[1126.21] Curry: Eric, I have another question for you.
[1128.29] Curry: What is the situation in Canada as far as drone laws go?
[1132.29] Curry: Because we're having all sorts of draconian rules brought in over here
[1135.97] Curry: that we don't like much.
[1136.93] Curry: What's it like over there for you?
[1139.81] Eric: Yeah, Bruce went on a bit of a tirade about it.
[1142.21] Eric: It's not what people say it is.
[1145.17] Eric: Yes, the rules are pretty standard that thou shalt not fly over things
[1150.21] Eric: and do bad things and whatever.
[1152.93] Eric: But if you spend the money and become a Mac member,
[1155.89] Eric: which is just basically an insurance company, it's a model.
[1160.21] Eric: It's like AMA, but easier.
[1162.61] Eric: That's about a hundred Canadian dollars a year,
[1164.93] Eric: and they cover you with full insurance
[1166.53] Eric: when you're flying on Mac sanctioned events or whatever.
[1169.81] Eric: If you're a member, you're exempt from the drone rules completely.
[1173.33] AndyRC: Oh, man, we so need that.
[1175.57] Eric: It's a complete blanket example.
[1177.17] Eric: You have to remember and fly on their sites to get that exemption.
[1181.57] Eric: It doesn't have to be a written permission site.
[1184.29] Eric: You just have to have permission.
[1186.05] Eric: And it's kind of a little bit gray there and yet.
[1189.41] Tony: And English and live in England and do it.
[1194.85] Eric: Yeah, Mac won't cover you overseas,
[1196.61] Eric: but it does cover us when we go to the US.
[1199.09] Eric: But basically, if you're a Mac member,
[1203.01] Eric: you're going to do things a little smart.
[1205.73] Eric: And ultimately, I can speak for my province,
[1208.85] Eric: which is the most populated province in Canada, Ontario.
[1212.05] Eric: The OPP, which is our Ontario Provincial Police,
[1215.33] Eric: do not have one care about enforcing one drone lot ever.
[1220.77] Eric: They have way better things to do.
[1223.09] Eric: They are going to come in stupid lying at a park or whatever.
[1228.45] Eric: If you do have something stupid and people are pissy about it, okay, they might.
[1232.29] Eric: But just don't do anything dumb.
[1235.33] Curry: I mean, the public perception, because over here,
[1238.29] Curry: it feels like the media is kind of trying to poison people against drones.
[1242.13] Curry: They're like, drones shut down Gatwick,
[1244.13] Curry: although we can see one and that sort of thing.
[1246.05] Curry: Is the public like, whatever, it's just doing his own thing.
[1248.77] Eric: We don't know.
[1249.81] Eric: It's the same here.
[1250.93] Eric: Your Gatwick stuff, it's built here just the same.
[1253.81] Eric: And everybody's just as fired up as they are overseas.
[1258.13] Eric: It's not all that different.
[1259.89] Eric: But ultimately, when it comes to enforcement, that's what matters.
[1263.41] Eric: Is somebody going to come there and give you a $1,000 ticket?
[1267.33] Eric: No, it'll never happen.
[1268.61] Eric: Not unless you're doing flying at an airport or something really dumb.
[1272.53] Eric: Nothing has really changed.
[1273.89] Eric: I pay my Mac membership.
[1275.57] Eric: I'm a member of the local club.
[1277.17] Eric: They're great guys, but it's pretty boring to fly on their field.
[1281.17] Eric: My videos show it.
[1282.77] Eric: It's all right.
[1284.37] Eric: But I still fly at the local park where there's nobody.
[1286.93] Eric: If there's people there, I don't fly.
[1289.41] Eric: Someone just come out of your toilet, Jack.
[1292.37] Tony: I know it's serious.
[1294.37] AndyRC: So there were two people in the toilet when Jack went in there.
[1298.37] AndyRC: That's why you weren't in there.
[1299.73] Tony: That's interesting, isn't it?
[1301.09] Jack: Well, the cheetah is no longer being cheated on.
[1306.29] AndyRC: Looks like there's a triangle going on there.
[1310.21] Jack: Square, love square.
[1312.77] AndyRC: Can I, for a second, this is off topic, talk about my favorite people from Ontario.
[1321.65] AndyRC: Did I say that right?
[1322.53] AndyRC: Ontario.
[1323.17] AndyRC: Ontario.
[1325.81] AndyRC: Tom Green.
[1327.09] Eric: Yeah.
[1327.57] AndyRC: Oh, geez.
[1329.25] AndyRC: Norm Macdonald.
[1331.73] AndyRC: You don't know.
[1332.37] AndyRC: Do you know Norm Macdonald?
[1333.57] AndyRC: Do you know who I'm talking to?
[1334.85] AndyRC: Oh, man.
[1335.97] AndyRC: Norm Macdonald is my favorite comedian ever.
[1339.09] AndyRC: He's from Ontario.
[1341.25] AndyRC: Same.
[1341.49] Eric: You do know there's tens of millions of people in Ontario, right?
[1345.49] Eric: Yeah, but there's not.
[1346.69] AndyRC: Okay.
[1347.97] AndyRC: London, Ontario.
[1349.97] AndyRC: You've got like four celebrities, though.
[1351.89] AndyRC: Jim Kerry.
[1352.85] AndyRC: Another one.
[1354.05] AndyRC: Done dance.
[1354.69] Eric: Yeah, yeah.
[1356.53] AndyRC: Wow.
[1357.25] Eric: A lot of actors and comedians out of Ontario, actually.
[1360.05] Eric: A lot.
[1360.45] Eric: Yeah.
[1360.85] Jack: Stop talking.
[1361.57] Jack: Frank's talking.
[1363.01] Tony: Double A says in the chat, MKMELab, good to see you live.
[1368.77] Tony: That is one of your subscribers.
[1371.57] Tony: Andy R.C. says, Frank C. says, what are you drinking tonight?
[1375.73] Tony: Andy R.C.
[1376.85] Tony: Don't say it's coke, because you're...
[1379.17] AndyRC: Well, I'm afraid it's Aldi's finest vibe, cola.
[1385.49] Curry: Jesus.
[1385.89] Curry: You can't even watch.
[1386.85] AndyRC: There must be something else in there.
[1389.49] AndyRC: I tell you what, when you drink a couple of these...
[1394.13] AndyRC: Shut up!
[1395.41] AndyRC: Shut up, shut up.
[1396.53] AndyRC: Frank's trying to talk.
[1398.05] SPEAKER_02: I was just...
[1399.89] SPEAKER_02: I was interested to know about the, you know, with the Raspberry
[1403.17] SPEAKER_02: Pi's and Arduinos and everything, whether you've worked any of that
[1405.97] SPEAKER_02: into any of the stuff you've done with drones.
[1409.65] Eric: Well, since you ask, even my channel hasn't seen this yet.
[1414.69] Eric: I've been playing with...
[1416.45] Eric: This is a small microcontroller called an ESP8266.
[1420.05] Eric: It's a Wi-Fi enabled microcontroller.
[1422.93] Eric: This is just on a breadboard for prototyping, but with a small antenna,
[1428.37] Eric: I've been testing this to sniff the packets coming from your phone.
[1434.77] Eric: All cell phones, every 500 milliseconds, emit a pulse looking for an access point.
[1439.81] Eric: You can use that to triangulate position with either a big antenna or one of these small guys.
[1447.09] Eric: And if you put one of those small guys into something like the Nano Talon,
[1452.61] Eric: you now have a fantastic search and rescue device, particularly in rural Canada.
[1459.49] Eric: You send this up and then you can send it back home with one of these
[1463.49] Eric: NRF modules they use for telemetry on all the iNav and ArduPilot and stuff.
[1468.69] Eric: So I've been playing around with that and I'm going to put iNav in this.
[1473.01] Eric: And my initial testing works perfectly.
[1475.89] Eric: You can send it up.
[1477.09] Eric: You can do it by hand with a Yagi and tell whether a person is in a big swath of bush
[1483.01] Eric: as long as their phone is still charged, which is pretty handy in Canada or like
[1488.85] Eric: East Coast or West Coast USA, where people get lost every day.
[1492.61] Eric: It's very hard to find them.
[1494.53] Eric: So that's something I've been playing with.
[1496.61] Eric: And so far the code's working.
[1498.69] Eric: It actually works really well.
[1500.77] Eric: Debated on releasing it, but I'm not sure.
[1503.57] SPEAKER_02: There's quite a few search and rescue volunteer groups in the UK at least,
[1509.09] SPEAKER_02: using drones for that sort of thing.
[1512.53] SPEAKER_02: I mean, have you got in touch with any out in Canada that might be interested in that?
[1519.57] Eric: Yeah, there's a local here.
[1520.85] Eric: I'll be honest.
[1521.57] Eric: This is the first project that I haven't published while I'm working on it
[1525.57] Eric: because I debated on actually doing the hardware as a commercial device
[1530.37] Eric: because no one is doing it.
[1533.89] Eric: I've done Hackaday Prize projects every year for the last several years,
[1538.61] Eric: even one third place a few years ago.
[1540.69] Eric: Nice.
[1541.01] Eric: Trip to Switchbend and stuff.
[1542.37] Eric: Yeah, I release everything open source on my channel.
[1545.65] Eric: This is the one thing I've held back just a little bit,
[1549.09] Eric: just because no one is doing it except one company,
[1552.21] Eric: and they're charging tens of thousands of dollars for crap hardware.
[1558.37] Eric: This costs nothing, and I could sell it.
[1560.29] Eric: They're cheap to the SAR units and make a product they can afford.
[1563.57] SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
[1564.53] Eric: Not just tens of thousands that no local search and rescue can afford.
[1569.73] Eric: I'm thinking about that, but I'll probably just release it open source.
[1573.09] AndyRC: No, no, don't.
[1575.09] AndyRC: I mean, you should...
[1576.13] AndyRC: Oh, Peter over here.
[1580.21] AndyRC: I'm just saying it's quite a lot of work.
[1582.05] Jack: If you want to find your loved ones, you've got to pay me.
[1585.17] AndyRC: Yeah, I think you should.
[1586.85] Eric: I see it from both sides, and I totally agree with you, Andy.
[1590.21] Eric: The trick is, though, I always come back to, could I have done this by myself?
[1594.77] Eric: And the answer is always no, because I'm borrowing code
[1597.81] Eric: and ideas that other people have published free,
[1600.53] Eric: so that I never feel right about trying to commercialize it,
[1603.65] Eric: even though I probably should.
[1606.05] Curry: It depends on the life of that, doesn't it?
[1607.89] Curry: It's like if GPL code is ever involved, it's like this viral thing.
[1611.33] Curry: It's like any GPL free code in there equals every single bit on top of it
[1615.57] Curry: must be open sourced as well.
[1617.89] SPEAKER_02: And they're not mutually exclusive either.
[1620.05] SPEAKER_02: I mean, look at the Arduino or the Raspberry Pi...
[1623.57] SPEAKER_02: I mean, the Arduino more than the Raspberry Pi,
[1625.17] SPEAKER_02: but Arduino stuff itself, it's technically open source hardware,
[1630.29] SPEAKER_02: but they're still selling it.
[1631.49] SPEAKER_02: And you could buy other people using the same designs,
[1635.89] SPEAKER_02: the Orange Pies or whatever else that are sort of Arduino type clones.
[1640.05] SPEAKER_02: But the Arduino are still making a load of money,
[1644.05] SPEAKER_02: because they're the trusted people that have got all the software
[1646.85] SPEAKER_02: and everything else that goes with it.
[1649.33] Eric: Yeah, it's tough.
[1651.49] Eric: I'll probably end up giving it away like I usually do,
[1654.13] Eric: but it's actually usually hackaday prize that puts me over the edge,
[1659.25] Eric: because at least there's an incentive.
[1660.77] Eric: At least you can win something and they get it out to the right audience.
[1664.45] Eric: So usually I use them, except this year they failed miserably
[1667.49] Eric: and did a really crappy commercial prize.
[1670.13] Eric: They're trying to get people to make commercial products
[1672.85] Eric: and close source everything this year.
[1675.01] Eric: It's quite bad.
[1675.65] Eric: So that's why I didn't submit it.
[1677.25] Eric: But yeah, that's what I'm working on.
[1679.09] Curry: Does it just work on knowing someone's phone number
[1681.89] Curry: and you can just look for that broadcast or something in the air?
[1685.65] Eric: This only works by MAC address.
[1687.81] Eric: So it can see that it only publishes the MAC address
[1690.69] Eric: that when it does the ping for the AP.
[1693.25] Eric: So I can see the MAC addresses.
[1695.65] Eric: Technically, you can use it to track someone pretty easy
[1697.97] Eric: once you know the MAC address or their phone.
[1699.57] Eric: That's not hard to do, which is the more nefarious use of it.
[1705.09] Curry: If someone goes missing, is it a case of you'd be hunting for a signal
[1709.89] Curry: like in the woods or something?
[1711.09] Curry: Or would you have some way of finding out their MAC address
[1713.57] Curry: from the phone supplier or the network supplier or something like that?
[1717.09] Eric: You could probably get it.
[1718.69] Eric: Law enforcement could probably get it from the phone company.
[1722.77] Eric: But that takes too long.
[1723.97] Eric: It's time is of the essence when somebody's lost in the bush
[1727.09] Eric: and their phone's only alive for, what, 12 to 24 hours anyway.
[1732.13] Eric: So if you can get something like this into the field and in use,
[1735.89] Eric: long before police even get an idea of what's up and down.
[1740.93] Eric: Or the phone.
[1741.97] Jack: They'd have to warrant a MAC address as well, wouldn't they?
[1745.73] Eric: For search and rescue, it's a little funny.
[1747.73] Eric: You could probably do it easier.
[1748.77] Eric: But this seems to work pretty good.
[1750.69] Eric: With this big, yaggy antenna, I can see a phone pretty far away
[1756.37] Eric: as I found out.
[1757.33] Eric: In fact, you see way too many.
[1758.77] Eric: So I have to go to very remote places to test it.
[1761.17] Curry: Well, I suppose the first four bytes of a MAC address
[1765.65] Curry: is the manufacturer and the model, isn't it?
[1768.21] Curry: So you can probably work out, this is an iPhone
[1770.69] Curry: or this is a type of Android phone and something like that
[1772.93] Curry: and pin it down that way.
[1774.69] Eric: Yeah, you could do it.
[1776.21] Eric: But when you're doing search and rescue,
[1777.89] Eric: it's generally nobody else around.
[1779.41] Eric: So it's not going to be a problem.
[1781.57] Curry: Is it 100 people down a cliff face or something?
[1783.97] Curry: It's like, that's strange.
[1786.77] Curry: One fallen person.
[1789.17] Eric: It's just one of the silly projects.
[1790.61] Eric: That's not a final project.
[1791.73] Eric: It was just an idea and I just whipped it together
[1793.81] Eric: and it's working.
[1795.01] Jack: How about the denial of service plane?
[1798.29] Jack: Stick a pineapple on there.
[1803.01] Eric: Just flying it around.
[1805.01] Eric: We have enough bad publicity in our hobby.
[1807.65] Eric: It's not even a couch.
[1809.89] Jack: We'll leave that for DEFCON.
[1811.17] Jack: Oh, well, DEFCON was last week, weren't it?
[1813.65] Jack: Oh, this week, I think.
[1817.09] Curry: If you sold it to the military, Eric,
[1818.61] Curry: just say I can hunt somebody down on their phone
[1821.25] Curry: and shoot them remotely.
[1822.69] Curry: Just attach a gun.
[1824.61] Curry: I'm trying to make publicity, yeah.
[1827.89] Eric: Demonetized.
[1829.73] Jack: Yeah, you've listened to this podcast, right?
[1832.77] Jack: Yes.
[1833.97] Jack: If it weren't for the donations,
[1835.49] Jack: Frank would have strangled me a long time ago.
[1839.73] Tony: How long has Frank been wearing glasses?
[1844.93] AndyRC: Well, he's always worn glasses.
[1847.65] Tony: Is he?
[1848.13] Tony: Yeah.
[1848.69] Tony: I've just noticed them.
[1850.21] AndyRC: I've only ever seen him wear glasses in person.
[1854.21] Tony: I've never seen him wear glasses.
[1855.97] Tony: I've just seen...
[1856.61] Jack: You've been in the car with him whilst wearing glasses.
[1861.33] Jack: Was I drunk?
[1862.85] Jack: No, because you drive as well.
[1864.85] AndyRC: When Tony's in the car,
[1866.29] AndyRC: his full concentration is on Jack
[1868.77] AndyRC: putting things on his head for the entire show.
[1871.25] AndyRC: Yeah, like little cars.
[1873.01] AndyRC: Maybe I'm short, though,
[1874.45] Tony: because I couldn't see that he had glasses on.
[1877.01] AndyRC: I want to ask Eric, what are you drinking?
[1878.61] AndyRC: It looks like you've got a little bit of beer there.
[1881.41] AndyRC: Beer?
[1882.37] AndyRC: Just a diet beer.
[1884.37] AndyRC: Thank you, Jerry.
[1885.65] SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Jerry Squire.
[1886.37] AndyRC: It's a really good idea, right?
[1888.13] AndyRC: Yeah, we should explain to Eric when we get a donation,
[1892.45] AndyRC: or safe drone users set things on fire.
[1896.13] AndyRC: I'm familiar.
[1897.49] AndyRC: Oh, you're familiar with Eric.
[1899.25] Eric: Yeah, I've worked here for quite a bit.
[1902.05] Eric: You guys actually had me on one other time,
[1904.13] Eric: caught me lurking, and dragged me in.
[1906.45] Eric: We did.
[1906.93] Eric: Do I remember that?
[1908.21] Eric: I was shocked by you watching this ****.
[1909.73] Eric: We didn't, did we?
[1910.93] Jack: I was like, bloody hell.
[1913.09] Eric: You guys had quality entertainment.
[1914.85] Eric: Come on, who lights things on fire in small rooms
[1917.57] Jack: when people give them the money?
[1921.41] Jack: Well, we aim to play.
[1923.17] Jack: It was my ploy to try and kill Tony.
[1925.25] Jack: I burned his thumb badly.
[1927.73] Tony: He did burn my thumb, but it grew back.
[1930.29] AndyRC: It's funny, that.
[1931.97] AndyRC: Also, who calls something a drone show,
[1934.53] AndyRC: and then about three minutes of the content is about drones.
[1938.13] Tony: And the rest is lawnmowers and beer.
[1941.09] Curry: Well, we do try.
[1942.69] Curry: I felt when N.J. was here,
[1944.85] Curry: he was quite good at steering a conversation
[1946.69] Curry: occasionally back to drones.
[1948.05] Curry: Yeah, he always does.
[1949.65] Eric: He's done with us.
[1950.61] Eric: He finally got a low-pro backpack.
[1954.93] Eric: It showed up five minutes ago.
[1957.33] Jack: Careful saying that brand,
[1959.41] Jack: because Andy R.C. comes out in hives
[1962.85] Jack: when he says the word super-view.
[1966.45] AndyRC: What's wrong with the low-pro?
[1970.69] AndyRC: The first letter's different.
[1972.45] Jack: Wow, you know.
[1973.65] AndyRC: So, just to, you know, go further with that.
[1978.29] AndyRC: So, you've got an FPV backpack.
[1980.21] AndyRC: Do you quite often go flying with bodies and stuff,
[1983.65] AndyRC: like recreationally?
[1985.25] Eric: Yeah, just the local model club,
[1986.93] Eric: and there's not much for FPV pliers.
[1989.81] Eric: I've been rocking this old laptop backpack for too long,
[1993.01] Eric: so it's just a pain in the butt.
[1994.69] Eric: So, I figured I'd become a cool drone guy
[1997.33] Eric: and get a real one.
[1997.81] Eric: Yeah, you're not cool until you've got my stuff.
[2000.37] Tony: Talking of backpacks,
[2002.21] Tony: I'm doing a live Friday night show
[2004.61] Tony: on how I pack my backpack.
[2007.41] Curry: Are you keeping Danny hostage again during this show?
[2010.05] Tony: He will be here.
[2011.25] Tony: He is free to leave whenever he wants.
[2013.89] Tony: Are you going to be locked up in another place?
[2015.49] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
[2016.21] SPEAKER_02: As long as the bag is packed.
[2017.25] AndyRC: He's down there under the stairs.
[2019.33] AndyRC: Are you going to be showing the condom bag
[2021.49] AndyRC: that you put in, too?
[2022.61] AndyRC: The condoms, the lube.
[2024.45] AndyRC: I tried to get that on camera,
[2030.85] AndyRC: but it was standard definition,
[2033.09] AndyRC: so it didn't kick it up.
[2034.45] SPEAKER_02: Far more exciting news.
[2035.81] SPEAKER_02: New doggo.
[2037.57] Tony: Yes, it's your dog.
[2039.41] Tony: She's asleep over there.
[2040.77] Tony: I ran her six miles today.
[2042.93] Tony: I don't know if you'll be able to see her.
[2044.13] Tony: She's still growing.
[2045.81] Jack: What's wrong with you?
[2047.33] Tony: Can you see her?
[2048.05] AndyRC: Just there.
[2050.29] AndyRC: What's the story then?
[2052.13] AndyRC: How did you end up with a new pup?
[2054.93] AndyRC: She's coming, hold on.
[2056.13] Tony: There she is.
[2061.09] Tony: I'm struggling like she's heavy,
[2062.85] Tony: but she's like a lightweight.
[2064.93] Tony: Look at her.
[2066.05] Curry: It's just because you're old.
[2068.53] Tony: Look at that little thing.
[2069.97] Tony: What's the story then?
[2071.01] Jack: He's got a puppy to make Junior last longer.
[2075.49] Tony: She's not a puppy.
[2076.45] Tony: She's actually two in Christmas.
[2080.21] Tony: Is she a rescue then?
[2082.21] Tony: Well, she needed a home.
[2084.45] Tony: One of my customers split up with her husband
[2088.05] Tony: and she couldn't take him to a rent accommodation.
[2090.77] Tony: So I said, I'll take her on.
[2092.61] Tony: Well, that counts as rescue in my room.
[2094.69] Tony: Yeah, so she's a Jack Russell cross.
[2098.53] Tony: I keep saying chinchilla.
[2107.41] Tony: She's tiny.
[2108.13] Tony: She's light as a Themmar.
[2109.49] AndyRC: I bet you can find a video of that somewhere.
[2111.97] AndyRC: What a lovely bitch.
[2114.93] Tony: She's a lovely little girl.
[2117.65] Tony: Well, I've only had her a day.
[2121.25] AndyRC: I should get on with Junior though,
[2122.85] AndyRC: because Junior doesn't get on with me
[2124.53] AndyRC: every time I go for stroking.
[2125.97] AndyRC: He bites me under.
[2127.25] AndyRC: Well, he's tolerating her.
[2130.05] Tony: Let's put it that way.
[2131.41] AndyRC: Has he had like a bit of a go?
[2133.57] Tony: No, no, he's fine.
[2135.49] Jack: You've got your nuggets, has he?
[2137.89] Tony: Junior has got no nuggets
[2139.33] Tony: and she's fully woman at the moment,
[2141.25] Tony: but I'm letting her settle in before I get her chopped,
[2145.97] Tony: because I don't want it to be too traumatic for her.
[2149.01] Tony: But she just went out on a six mile bike ride.
[2153.41] Tony: It was just like a test.
[2156.13] Curry: Jesus, the dog can ride a bike?
[2157.65] Tony: I'm impressed.
[2158.77] Tony: She's brilliant.
[2161.01] Tony: She just ran beside me for six miles
[2164.13] Tony: and didn't stop and she's tiny.
[2166.93] Curry: Will she fit in the ex-class,
[2168.53] Curry: I suppose is the name question.
[2169.81] Tony: She could fit on the ex-class easily, yes.
[2173.89] Tony: She needed a home and I was looking for a dog.
[2176.29] Tony: I wanted a staffy.
[2180.77] Tony: You don't want a staffy, do you?
[2182.37] Tony: I really wanted a staffy and I kept looking.
[2183.97] Tony: Why? They're devil dogs.
[2187.33] Tony: If you look them up, they're called the nanny dog.
[2189.33] Tony: They're really good with kids, really good with everyone.
[2191.89] Jack: Pipes on the dog.
[2193.17] Tony: It's just that, no, it is.
[2195.33] Tony: That's just media.
[2197.49] AndyRC: That's not the problem.
[2198.53] AndyRC: It's the fact that they can, they're like bodybuilders.
[2202.61] AndyRC: They'll knock you over.
[2203.89] AndyRC: No, they won't.
[2204.69] AndyRC: It's just they're huge.
[2206.13] AndyRC: Because I've been knocked over.
[2208.13] AndyRC: I couldn't count.
[2208.93] Tony: Yeah, probably because it's tails wagging and it's happy.
[2213.17] Tony: They're called the nanny dog.
[2214.53] Tony: Like, the media has given them a bad name.
[2220.05] Tony: Don't listen to the media.
[2221.81] Tony: Staffies are called the nanny dog.
[2223.33] Tony: They're beautiful, lovely nanny dog.
[2225.49] Curry: They can knock you over.
[2228.13] AndyRC: Any dog that can knock you over by wagging its tail should not, it is.
[2233.09] Tony: Look, they're the beautiful dogs.
[2235.33] Tony: They're great.
[2235.97] Tony: Anyway, I gave up looking for them and I said to myself,
[2239.25] Tony: I'm going to let the universe find me a dog.
[2241.97] Tony: And then I found this.
[2242.93] Jack: The love of God.
[2244.13] Jack: How's the old ultrasonic cleaner doing?
[2246.45] Jack: Have you fixed your tools?
[2249.65] Tony: Look.
[2250.13] Jack: Have you cranked your pipe cutter?
[2253.65] Tony: Right, I'm muting myself.
[2256.93] Jack: Eric, talk about you as like, you know, the guest and everything.
[2261.01] Eric: Where's the mute?
[2262.13] Eric: I just watched you guys print exactly this.
[2267.81] Tony: If you get, you're actually here and enjoying the arguments.
[2272.21] Tony: He doesn't, he doesn't care.
[2275.09] Tony: I'm opening up a beer.
[2280.21] Eric: Yeah, I have an old English sheet.
[2283.33] Eric: He's wonderful.
[2284.29] Eric: Oh, no, they're beautiful dogs.
[2286.69] Curry: A dog related story.
[2288.13] Curry: When I was lying on Tuesday, I was just coming into land.
[2291.97] Curry: And then I heard this sort of noise of an approaching animal.
[2295.65] Curry: And suddenly, my cord was on the ground as a dog had jumped up,
[2299.33] Curry: taken out of the air.
[2300.93] Curry: And then he ran off wagging his tail.
[2303.09] Curry: He was really happy about it.
[2304.37] Curry: I wasn't too happy.
[2305.49] Eric: But there was no, my big concerns.
[2308.21] Eric: Anytime I'm flying at like where I go down by the river
[2312.29] Eric: is people run their dogs down there a lot.
[2314.85] Eric: And I'm always scared that a dog's going to jump up
[2317.25] Eric: and grab the quad out of the air.
[2318.93] Eric: Not because I care about the quad.
[2320.69] Eric: I don't want to hurt the dog.
[2322.21] Curry: Yeah, that's what I was worried about.
[2323.81] Curry: I was, I was relieved to see him jumping around wagging his tail
[2327.41] Curry: because he was pleased with himself.
[2329.01] Curry: Normally, when I used to fly at the site,
[2331.41] Curry: which is a lot less popular because it's a building site,
[2334.21] Curry: they're always dog walkers.
[2335.57] Curry: And I had a bit of warning.
[2337.01] Curry: So what I could do is I take my quad up the other end,
[2339.73] Curry: quickly fly back and land and the dog would just sort of run
[2341.97] Curry: behind and sort of lose interest because it's landed.
[2344.61] Curry: But this thing just came out of nowhere.
[2346.69] Curry: It's just like just coming in.
[2348.13] Curry: I heard the noise.
[2348.85] Curry: I was like, what's that?
[2349.97] Curry: I'm about to get taken out.
[2351.09] Curry: And it's like, no, jump down.
[2354.29] Eric: I'll just point out, Tony does have control of the broadcast
[2357.57] Eric: because it's been on his camera the whole time he walked away
[2362.05] Eric: on the YouTube stream.
[2363.25] Eric: I know.
[2363.73] Jack: Yeah, just no.
[2365.33] AndyRC: Just out of spite.
[2367.17] AndyRC: Why is it doing that?
[2368.21] AndyRC: Have we all got that control?
[2369.73] AndyRC: Because if I do that, it's just the thing.
[2371.89] Jack: Talking about it.
[2373.49] Jack: What satellite?
[2375.01] Jack: Your satellite, Eric.
[2376.29] Jack: Tell us about that, man.
[2378.69] Eric: The satellite.
[2379.65] Jack: Yeah, are you going to do any more of that stuff?
[2383.01] Eric: Now, after the DIY space mission thing,
[2388.05] Eric: I want to do another high altitude balloon launch one of these days.
[2391.65] Eric: But I've got all the equipment set up.
[2393.49] Eric: I just need to actually do it.
[2396.21] Eric: And maybe actually hit the target altitude this time.
[2399.73] Eric: Last time we only hit about,
[2401.09] Eric: I think it was right around 70,000 feet.
[2403.57] Jack: Didn't you lose some helium or something?
[2407.01] Eric: Yeah, it was actually multiple causes.
[2409.73] Eric: It took me about two months to figure out where I went wrong.
[2413.17] Eric: Yeah, I screwed up anyway.
[2414.45] Eric: It was my fault.
[2416.77] AndyRC: I've upset Mundo FPV about staffy dogs.
[2419.57] AndyRC: Can I just confirm?
[2421.25] AndyRC: I love all dogs.
[2422.53] AndyRC: It's just that I'm a weakling.
[2424.05] AndyRC: And any dog that can pin me down,
[2427.73] AndyRC: I have no problem with staffy dogs.
[2433.01] AndyRC: It's just that when I got a funny few stories the way out,
[2437.81] AndyRC: I had a staffy dog and was flying around.
[2443.73] AndyRC: And I was with my buddy.
[2445.09] AndyRC: And I said, dog land straight away.
[2447.89] AndyRC: And it lands locally disarmed.
[2449.81] AndyRC: This staffy went straight for that.
[2452.21] AndyRC: It was running a session five.
[2454.61] AndyRC: Of course, they're just blocks.
[2456.61] AndyRC: So perfect for a dog to just grab hold of.
[2460.37] AndyRC: And this dog ran around the field with its owner.
[2464.29] AndyRC: Their owner couldn't stop it.
[2466.37] AndyRC: For 20 minutes, we were trying to get this quad back off this dog
[2472.05] AndyRC: that was just like, oh, this is a toy.
[2474.61] AndyRC: This is a kind of thing.
[2476.85] AndyRC: Nothing against staffies.
[2478.77] AndyRC: Just that they can knock me over while I'm flying.
[2482.13] AndyRC: That's it.
[2483.25] Curry: I'm going to add staffies to the Andy RC enemy list.
[2487.97] Curry: They're growing.
[2488.53] Jack: I will hang on this over here.
[2491.25] Jack: It's over here.
[2497.73] AndyRC: Do you want number seven or do you want it higher?
[2503.57] AndyRC: Put it the lowest.
[2504.61] AndyRC: Because I love it.
[2505.33] AndyRC: That is seven.
[2506.21] Jack: Okay.
[2506.77] Jack: There's seven things I want to talk about so far.
[2508.85] AndyRC: I don't think it's it.
[2513.33] AndyRC: Is it the staffy where the when they're a pup,
[2516.93] AndyRC: that the fuck their heads or is it their skull breaks apart?
[2521.65] AndyRC: Is that the staffy?
[2522.93] AndyRC: Have I got that wrong?
[2524.61] AndyRC: You think that's alien?
[2526.61] AndyRC: Nah, there's definitely a breed that does that.
[2530.45] AndyRC: Maybe someone in that area would be a bit.
[2533.65] Jack: Is your pie media lab still running?
[2537.41] Jack: Is it still running?
[2539.65] Jack: Your multimedia lab?
[2541.97] Jack: Media center?
[2543.25] Jack: Is that what you called it?
[2544.21] Jack: Hang on.
[2544.85] Eric: Yeah, I've got a couple.
[2545.73] Eric: I've got Raspberry Pis all over the place.
[2547.33] Eric: Yeah, so the smart TV.
[2549.49] Eric: Yeah, one smart TV and putting another one in the garage
[2552.77] Eric: right now as soon as I fix the free plasma TV.
[2555.57] Eric: And then another one runs in my studio where I have my 3D printers as just
[2560.77] Eric: it runs YouTube videos and a weather app,
[2563.33] Eric: but it also runs a pie hole, which is a DNS server for my house.
[2568.61] Eric: So no ads can come through on any of my devices in my house
[2572.69] Eric: because the DNS is resolved by that Raspberry Pi.
[2576.61] Eric: And it blacklets all the stupid ad sites, which is great.
[2580.29] Jack: Oh, man.
[2580.93] Eric: Teach me.
[2582.69] Eric: It's easy.
[2583.57] Eric: I haven't done a video.
[2584.61] Eric: Just search for pie hole.
[2586.61] Eric: It's kind of scary sound and do it on YouTube.
[2590.53] Curry: And you should try and teach that.
[2593.49] Curry: We tried to go over very basic Linux commands for about three weeks.
[2596.93] Curry: I know.
[2597.41] Jack: Tilda pipes.
[2600.29] Jack: Greg man for the list.
[2603.89] Jack: Shell SSH.
[2606.13] Jack: Is it SSH?
[2609.01] Jack: I've seen in the background.
[2609.89] SPEAKER_02: I think you've had a stroke.
[2610.85] Jack: No, I know.
[2612.13] Jack: I know things.
[2613.65] Jack: Have you seen?
[2615.33] Jack: Is it the Canadian guy with the wooden gears?
[2618.77] Jack: He's doing a lot of pie stuff for the shooting of the lid things.
[2623.73] Jack: You have had a straight.
[2624.77] Jack: No, I haven't.
[2625.73] Jack: Let me let me look it up.
[2626.93] Jack: Hang on.
[2627.73] Jack: Have you seen him?
[2628.61] Jack: I love him.
[2631.01] Eric: I know that Canadian YouTubers are.
[2633.73] Eric: I've been down to see the the Hacksmith.
[2636.13] Eric: I talked to him quite frequently.
[2638.53] Eric: I've been down to the stuff.
[2639.41] Jack: Wandle.
[2640.53] Jack: Is that his name?
[2641.49] Jack: Matthias.
[2642.77] Jack: Matthias.
[2643.89] Jack: What have I been up to lately?
[2646.37] Jack: That guy.
[2647.73] Jack: Check him out.
[2648.69] Jack: He's from Kanata Stan as well.
[2650.53] Eric: I think so.
[2652.21] Eric: The pie hole.
[2653.09] Eric: You don't need any specific knowledge of Linux or anything to set it up.
[2658.13] Eric: It's super easy and it's the best use for a $30 computer ever.
[2661.65] Eric: No more ads on any device in your house ever.
[2665.49] Eric: It just works and it doesn't stop anything.
[2668.69] Eric: It just stops any site from serving you any ads.
[2672.21] Eric: It's great.
[2673.81] Eric: Best ad locker ever.
[2675.25] SPEAKER_02: Mr Fruity Cakes does say saying pie hole in Brighton means a totally different thing.
[2679.65] SPEAKER_02: And that is exactly why we're taking every opportunity to say pie hole.
[2684.45] Eric: That's like street meat here means hot dogs and sausages from a street vendor.
[2690.13] Eric: And in the US it means an entirely different thing.
[2693.01] SPEAKER_02: Tony wants to say something but he's muted.
[2695.49] SPEAKER_02: Unmute yourself.
[2697.49] SPEAKER_02: You have to unmute yourself.
[2698.69] SPEAKER_02: It's down at the bottom next to the leave call.
[2701.57] AndyRC: Do sign language, Tom.
[2703.41] AndyRC: Do it and see if we can guess what it was.
[2705.33] SPEAKER_02: Tony, it's about...
[2708.61] AndyRC: Hi.
[2709.97] SPEAKER_02: Hi.
[2711.09] SPEAKER_02: Or maybe there.
[2713.25] AndyRC: I'm gay.
[2715.65] SPEAKER_02: Tony is gay.
[2717.57] SPEAKER_02: You heard it here first, people.
[2718.69] SPEAKER_02: I knew that.
[2720.37] SPEAKER_02: Hi.
[2721.49] AndyRC: Let's just say hi.
[2723.65] AndyRC: I don't know.
[2725.01] AndyRC: Don't know.
[2727.17] AndyRC: I don't know.
[2727.89] Jack: The whole world is flat.
[2730.37] Jack: Eric, you've launched a satellite.
[2733.57] Jack: Is the world flat?
[2736.45] Curry: Or is Tony a...
[2739.33] Curry: You can't talk about flat Earth anymore on YouTube.
[2741.33] AndyRC: Have you really launched a satellite?
[2743.81] Eric: No.
[2745.65] Eric: I made some CubeSat proof of concept stuff but that's as far as it goes.
[2749.57] Jack: Unmute yourself, you idiot.
[2752.61] Jack: Oh my god.
[2753.65] Jack: It's like working with...
[2755.73] AndyRC: Can I do it?
[2756.69] AndyRC: Because I'm host.
[2758.37] Curry: Eric, a question for you.
[2759.89] Curry: How are you managing to manage your time so well?
[2763.25] Curry: That you can put out a bunch of YouTube videos on all sorts of subjects
[2767.73] Curry: and you're getting time to sit down and either write some code or put things together.
[2773.25] Curry: Because when I try and mix up my time,
[2775.97] Curry: especially if there's a project I have to write stuff for,
[2778.29] Curry: it's like unless I concentrate all my time on it,
[2781.09] Curry: I just flip between stuff and I'm terrible.
[2783.49] Curry: What is your time management secret?
[2785.65] Eric: I flip between stuff like a crazy person.
[2788.85] Eric: I don't see much.
[2790.53] Eric: I don't ever finish anything completely to like a polished finish.
[2795.89] Eric: It's always as soon as I get something halfway to where it needs to be
[2799.89] Eric: and it's semi-functional.
[2801.09] Eric: Moving on.
[2802.53] Curry: Oh, good man.
[2803.57] Curry: That released me a lot.
[2804.69] AndyRC: He also doesn't spend two nights a week on Twitch playing games, I imagine, with Jack.
[2811.81] AndyRC: That's my happy place.
[2814.13] AndyRC: And it's just the same, you know, time management.
[2817.49] Eric: Invite last night, I'm sorry.
[2819.17] Eric: And it was for exactly those reasons I had stuff to do.
[2822.77] AndyRC: Did they really invite you?
[2825.01] AndyRC: Oh, they didn't invite me.
[2826.85] Jack: No, you can't.
[2827.89] Jack: After the knock, you can't.
[2831.17] Jack: That's true.
[2832.61] Jack: That's true.
[2835.09] Jack: I asked Frank and he wouldn't do the French voice.
[2839.41] AndyRC: By the way, you do a really good French voice.
[2843.17] AndyRC: Yeah, you can come off racist if you do an accent wrong, that's all.
[2847.65] SPEAKER_02: Down here, Tony.
[2849.97] SPEAKER_02: Where is it?
[2851.33] SPEAKER_02: The about there.
[2852.37] SPEAKER_02: Is the button about there?
[2853.89] SPEAKER_02: No, here you go.
[2855.65] SPEAKER_02: No, do it, do it.
[2856.77] SPEAKER_02: Click that one.
[2857.89] SPEAKER_02: That'll do unmute.
[2859.33] SPEAKER_02: That's what you need to do, Tony.
[2860.29] Jack: No, it's at the bottom, isn't it?
[2861.81] SPEAKER_02: If you move mouse.
[2863.01] SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
[2863.57] SPEAKER_02: The bottom, down there.
[2864.37] Curry: It's the same button to unmute yourself as it is to mute yourself.
[2867.97] SPEAKER_02: It's just as to get it in.
[2871.01] SPEAKER_02: That's because I muted him because he was
[2874.05] SPEAKER_02: shouting at his dogs in the kitchen.
[2877.41] SPEAKER_02: So you can mute him but you can't unmute him.
[2879.41] SPEAKER_02: No, only he can unmute himself.
[2881.81] SPEAKER_02: Move your mouse.
[2883.41] Curry: I think he's just sulking now.
[2885.01] SPEAKER_02: I think so too.
[2885.97] Jack: Anyway, I thought your mistress was Danny now
[2889.89] Jack: and you were going to do a quad surgery where you try and fix quads, get it wrong,
[2894.77] Jack: then phone and annoy me and then when I do tell you how to fix them,
[2899.73] Jack: then Joker goes, he doesn't know what he's on about
[2903.49] Jack: and then you come round my house with a present
[2906.61] Jack: and then I sit there and explain it with like
[2909.97] Jack: sock puppets and a whiteboard.
[2912.53] Curry: I can't pause the livestream.
[2914.93] Jack: Hello, Sophie.
[2915.97] Jack: We're all going to die down here and then I have to draw diagrams
[2920.37] Jack: and then you go back, do what I say and then it works.
[2923.49] Curry: I'm just going to turn my camera off so Sophie can show me her hair.
[2927.73] Jack: How was her diving?
[2928.85] Jack: How was her diving?
[2930.37] AndyRC: Just mute it, that's all.
[2931.73] AndyRC: You don't need to turn the camera off or whatever.
[2935.17] AndyRC: He's done better, that's all.
[2936.53] Tony: Andy, there's definitely Volker in there.
[2940.21] AndyRC: I wish there was.
[2941.01] AndyRC: I thought he was whiskey.
[2943.01] AndyRC: I'm trying to, I'm trying to, I'm trying to put it out.
[2947.41] AndyRC: I think it's the alarm.
[2948.13] Tony: Jack, if you put that sock puppet you've got in your house on your end,
[2952.45] Eric: it probably wouldn't come off.
[2960.56] Eric: Quick shout out to the chat.
[2963.12] Eric: Hey, MCCreations.
[2965.36] Eric: Thanks for, that's one guy I got from this show last time I was on it.
[2969.52] Eric: I think that's how he found my channel and always pleasant comments.
[2974.24] Eric: Every video, every live show I'm on, Joshua Bardwell here anywhere.
[2978.0] Eric: He's always got nice things to say.
[2980.0] Eric: Always say hi to everyone.
[2981.12] Eric: Why don't you just say hi to everyone?
[2982.8] Tony: MCCreations is the dawn of YouTube comments.
[2987.36] SPEAKER_02: I think MCCreations must be hated by YouTube.
[2989.36] AndyRC: He is just a little commenter.
[2990.56] AndyRC: He always comments on stuff.
[2993.68] AndyRC: Pretty much every guest that comes on and sees MCCreations in the chat
[2998.4] AndyRC: says exactly the same thing and they're not wrong.
[3002.08] Jack: All I write is I've watched this.
[3006.16] SPEAKER_02: Thank you MCCreations for supporting everyone.
[3010.56] Curry: Absolutely.
[3011.84] Curry: As far as I can tell, it's like some of us are full-time YouTubers.
[3015.12] Curry: MC is a full-time YouTube commenter because he must be.
[3018.4] Curry: The amount of stuff he does.
[3020.16] Jack: I've watched random things and I looked down at the comments.
[3023.52] Jack: I'm like, what are you doing here?
[3028.08] Jack: I'm looking at things that you shouldn't be looking at.
[3033.68] Jack: What the Nazi surgeon doctors got to and the inner earth things and he's there.
[3042.96] Jack: And I'm like, why are you watching this?
[3044.8] Curry: Well done preventing Nazis.
[3046.56] Curry: That's another.
[3048.08] Jack: You know, I don't like...
[3050.96] Jack: Well, I wanted to learn how sausage dogs were made.
[3056.64] Eric: YouTube is a lot smaller place than what you'd think.
[3059.6] Eric: When you start looking in comments, you start seeing all the same people.
[3063.92] Eric: That's quite funny.
[3065.6] AndyRC: How were sausage dogs made?
[3067.6] AndyRC: Jack, just while we're on the subject, can you put Nazis as number six?
[3072.8] Jack: Okay, no worries.
[3074.32] Tony: Right.
[3075.12] Tony: I'm going to give you a stat readout.
[3077.36] Tony: Tungster has spoken for 13 minutes.
[3080.32] Tony: Curry kitten for 10.
[3081.84] Tony: Brighten to the five.
[3083.28] Tony: Three seconds.
[3084.96] Tony: Andy R.C. 20.
[3087.84] Tony: Eric 16.
[3090.08] Tony: And brighten to the fly again, 12.
[3093.92] Jack: You've got to cut that one in half because it's me and Frank.
[3097.84] Tony: Okay, well, Andy R.C. has spoken the most with 20 minutes, 15 seconds.
[3103.44] Tony: Let's have a round of applause for Andy R.C.
[3107.28] AndyRC: Well, I thought you were telling me to shut up.
[3110.08] Jack: On days where I don't feel like doing the show,
[3113.2] Jack: Andy R.C. carries the load.
[3115.36] Jack: He really does.
[3116.96] AndyRC: Why don't you feel like doing the show, Jack?
[3119.28] Jack: Because I've got chronic depression and a really bad butthole.
[3127.84] Jack: And sometimes, you know, I have to run to the toilet.
[3130.4] Jack: I know that when I come back, there wasn't a moment silence
[3134.08] Jack: because Andy R.C. is talking about what kind of dogs he likes or doesn't like.
[3140.64] Jack: What about Sausage Dogs?
[3141.92] Tony: So they sit in a staffy community.
[3145.68] Curry: I like that a single comment about dogs has made more enemies with staffy owners.
[3154.0] SPEAKER_02: I think it's about time in the stream that we sign off
[3158.64] SPEAKER_02: because we've got about five timers going.
[3161.04] SPEAKER_02: So I don't know how long the stream has actually been going on for.
[3164.0] SPEAKER_02: But I think...
[3164.72] Curry: Did we mention the competition?
[3166.4] Curry: I don't want to fire a fish now, isn't it?
[3169.12] SPEAKER_02: Yes, the competition is closed.
[3171.36] SPEAKER_02: So the competition is being judged this very evening.
[3176.48] SPEAKER_02: After this.
[3177.68] SPEAKER_02: And the winner of the competition of the Drone is Life giveaway
[3184.64] SPEAKER_02: will be announced next week.
[3187.36] SPEAKER_02: So the next episode.
[3189.28] SPEAKER_02: So don't send us any more timestamps.
[3191.28] SPEAKER_02: You're too late.
[3192.72] SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
[3193.2] Curry: That'll earn you.
[3196.72] Tony: I need to get some new headphones.
[3199.52] Tony: Look at these things falling apart.
[3201.68] Jack: You look like a nerd at school who'd take their glasses in the middle.
[3205.92] Tony: Taped on.
[3207.28] Tony: MC's got some taped on there.
[3209.28] Tony: Just pop a bit of Velcro on.
[3211.36] Jack: MK, not MC.
[3214.88] Tony: MK, sorry.
[3216.88] Tony: Because we're all talking about MC creations.
[3219.28] Tony: Eric.
[3220.56] Tony: Eric.
[3221.52] Tony: Eric's taped on.
[3222.64] Eric: Nothing a little super glue and some tape won't fix.
[3225.04] Eric: Frank, grip's too big up here.
[3226.8] Eric: I keep snapping the stupid things.
[3229.12] Tony: These are just crap.
[3231.12] Tony: I'm going to buy some new ones for next...
[3233.28] Tony: For our birthday, which is next week, isn't it?
[3236.08] Tony: Correct.
[3237.12] Jack: Yep, and Andy RC's birthday as well.
[3240.4] Jack: Whose birthday is it next week?
[3242.0] Jack: Yours.
[3242.56] Jack: LDO's and yours?
[3245.2] Jack: Andy RC's birthday, is that right?
[3247.52] Tony: We're going to be four years of talking completely to other ******* people on YouTube.
[3252.24] Jack: Yeah, why do you listen to this show?
[3255.04] Jack: Make me laugh.
[3255.76] Jack: Because you've got a proper job.
[3257.76] Jack: You're good on YouTube.
[3259.12] Jack: Everyone likes you.
[3260.8] Jack: I mean...
[3261.04] Tony: Is he normal?
[3262.32] Jack: Yeah, man.
[3263.12] Jack: Is it him normal?
[3265.92] Jack: Yeah, look at him.
[3266.96] Jack: He's like Canadian at night.
[3268.8] Jack: I mean, he's trying to make planes to save and find people.
[3273.52] Jack: I mean, what is this?
[3274.4] Jack: I'm some sort of torture.
[3275.92] Jack: I've been really good this week.
[3277.44] Jack: I'm going to listen to LDO and vomit in my mouth.
[3281.76] AndyRC: That's just like his guilty pleasure.
[3283.68] AndyRC: He spends all week being like this super nice guy.
[3287.68] AndyRC: And then he's like, right, let's watch some film for an hour a week.
[3293.36] Eric: I actually said, you guys called me out on this before.
[3298.72] Eric: I was subscribed to Curry and Andy for a long time.
[3302.72] Eric: And one of you shared the link to this thing.
[3305.12] Eric: And I was hooked right away.
[3308.0] Eric: He's literally higher beating each other up verbally.
[3313.28] Tony: Welcome.
[3317.28] Tony: Mr. Creek says, oh, Frank's got a fancy new hairdo.
[3321.76] Tony: Yes, he has.
[3322.8] Tony: He's had his hair chopped.
[3325.04] Tony: And Andy's wearing an LDO top.
[3329.04] Tony: An LDO t-shirt.
[3330.48] Tony: That is no one can buy them one.
[3332.88] Tony: No, I'm not.
[3334.48] SPEAKER_02: Super limited edition.
[3336.4] Tony: Not you, Frank.
[3339.36] SPEAKER_02: This here one.
[3341.36] AndyRC: This is super, super.
[3345.12] AndyRC: Isn't any LDO merch limited edition?
[3352.0] SPEAKER_02: Limited edition supplies.
[3355.28] Tony: We've actually been asked by a few people.
[3361.44] Tony: We're going to do hoodies.
[3362.56] Tony: I think we're going to do some more.
[3364.72] Tony: Another hoodie run, I think.
[3366.72] Tony: My hoodie's my favorite.
[3368.4] Tony: I wear it all the time wearing it yesterday.
[3370.8] Tony: We're going to do another one.
[3372.0] Tony: But we're going to do one with all our logos on the back.
[3376.4] Jack: No, because that will be a printing nightmare.
[3379.36] Tony: We're doing it, Jack.
[3380.32] Tony: Whether you like it or not.
[3382.0] AndyRC: I'd love one of my style hats with an LDO logo on it.
[3390.8] AndyRC: But it's kind of like a bit niche.
[3393.12] Jack: I might.
[3393.84] Jack: I'm going to do a run of the drone user, clueless, careless, criminal.
[3399.44] Jack: That sounds like a good plan.
[3400.96] Jack: And I might make some dog shit dive ones as well.
[3407.92] SPEAKER_02: Do you want to sign this off, Jack?
[3409.12] Jack: Yep, no worries.
[3409.68] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Drone out.
[3412.72] Jack: Tonight you'll be joined by Andy R.C.
[3416.16] Jack: Good evening, everyone.
[3417.36] Jack: My name's Tony.
[3420.24] Jack: Eric from MKE Labs.
[3423.76] Jack: And Daddy.
[3426.0] Jack: Goodbye.
[3428.0] Jack: Andrew slash Frank next to me.
[3429.6] Jack: Bye.
[3430.72] Jack: Might be bright until I fly.
[3432.24] Jack: Thank you and good night.
[3434.48] Tony: I am Tony.
[3435.52] Tony: I'm a 21.