=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 214 ===
Title: LDO 214 - Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Recorded: 2019-10-03
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andy, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Michael Rollins
Total audience: 2,100
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8orrWLUojO0); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/692412721-letsdroneout-ldo-214-quis-custodiet-ipsos-custodes.mp3)
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[34.64] Jack: Hello and welcome to another well an actual decent episode maybe because we've got someone
[68.8] Jack: who knows what they're doing. You're listening to Let's Drone Out. Tonight you are joined by
[73.2] Jack: everyone's favorite curry kitten. Hello Michael Roland. Hello. From that YouTube channel called
[81.2] Jack: Michael Roland where he interviews people. The Michael Roland show. Yep and the comments are
[86.32] Jack: disabled. This is where the intro stops and he talks half an hour. Hello Andy RC. Hello.
[94.72] Jack: You bought a bike yeah. RC bike. You don't want to elaborate on that? No.
[102.64] Jack: Who are you sponsored by this week? We'll spin models. Pizza is delicious.
[108.48] Jack: Yeah. Oh he's not biting. He's not biting. He's going to be well behaved. I'm not doing the whole
[116.08] AndyRC: taking over the show thing. We've got we've got a proper interviewer who's
[122.32] AndyRC: does a good job so I'm going to knock. I'm doing it now right. Yeah. By doing it you're taking over
[130.32] Curry: it. We'll look at the stats later and see how many minutes you have. I'm putting myself on mute.
[136.8] Jack: All right. We're joined by my little Tony who's very somewhat delicate. Are you still delicate?
[142.56] Tony: No I'm all right now. It's taking a while. Bonjour. Did you go to work? Today I did. Yesterday you.
[150.88] Curry: Tony did you then miss the one flying day of weeks?
[157.12] Tony: I know it was sunny all day. No wind. I kept looking at my blinds going
[162.0] Tony: I could curl back down into bed and it's terrific.
[170.24] Jack: You know how I feel and it's not my fault. Right so Michael you have been interviewing people
[179.92] Jack: in FPV. What have you learned and why do you do this? Man what have I learned? I've learned
[187.84] Michael Rollins: that there's a lot of normal people in FPV and there's a lot of people that think that it lies.
[194.0] Michael Rollins: Yeah right. Why do I do it? Probably a more interesting question. I actually am super
[199.2] Michael Rollins: curious about why people are doing what they're doing and how they got into it
[203.92] Michael Rollins: and as a result I just started interviewing it. It actually started with Chad Kapper
[209.68] Michael Rollins: and once it started with Chad then I was like hey this actually is working. My channel blew
[214.88] Michael Rollins: up all of a sudden. People seem to enjoy it so I've just kept rolling with it for the most part
[219.84] Michael Rollins: for the past few months and it's going pretty well.
[225.92] Jack: So you started with Final Glide.
[236.56] Michael Rollins: The story behind that was that I did a reaction video to Tyler Brennan buying a part of Red
[243.36] Michael Rollins: A Riot and Chad and Tyler and Drew all thought it was on point and someone mentioned in the
[252.56] Michael Rollins: comments is this Chad's exit strategy and I said I don't think so. I think he's probably
[259.84] Michael Rollins: pretty committed to this and he slid into the conversation. He was like well you can ask me
[264.4] Michael Rollins: and so I responded to him. Hey do you want to do you want to be interviewed? He said sure and so
[273.68] Michael Rollins: a few hours later I wrote down about 10 questions and I think we interviewed for two hours or so
[280.96] Michael Rollins: and I put up the videos and the rest is history. Yeah I saw that one because that was like the
[289.84] AndyRC: first one with Chad and it was a great interview because we've had him on the show a few times but
[297.6] AndyRC: it's interesting seeing like a one-to-one because we always have loads of people here and it
[305.44] AndyRC: usually descends to knob jokes rather than serious stuff but you like prepare
[313.76] AndyRC: questions and stuff and yeah I can watch them all. I like the the final glide as one was great
[321.28] Tony: because well we have him on here and it's yeah but did he get naked? No let me tell you about
[330.0] Michael Rollins: the number of ideals. You got him naked? Very much. So I don't think that's hard to do.
[340.08] AndyRC: I don't know. Just tell him man he'll do it.
[346.0] Jack: So I was like you didn't I wasn't surprised that you hadn't heard of us and in fact I was like oh
[352.88] Tony: thank god because like yeah because he wouldn't have come on.
[361.28] Michael Rollins: It's funny because I have not done a lot of research into just general FPV shows at all.
[369.04] Michael Rollins: I just kind of started a YouTube channel and then ultimately fell into what I was doing and so I
[375.92] Michael Rollins: feel bad because people are like well have you heard about this show and have you heard about
[378.64] Michael Rollins: that show and I'm like no I haven't I don't know who those people are I'm sorry. We have the dicks.
[385.52] Curry: We've only been doing it for four years. It just meant you had more chance of coming on. I have to
[391.6] Curry: say what I really enjoyed about your interview bizarrely is the fact that it's not like
[397.84] Curry: Italian questions from you lots and lots of times. You do a small sort of intro and then it's a lot
[403.2] Curry: of talking from the guys who you're talking to really sort of pouring a heart out and stuff
[410.32] Curry: that you really get them talking nicely and I must say and we just talked about this before
[415.6] Curry: we went on air we've got a couple of comments about the the stingy vid and exactly what happened
[420.72] Curry: there what what is the the reason for the hate as far as road to riot or ex road to riot employee
[426.72] Michael Rollins: goes. So the the stingy video there was actually nobody that was angry or upset or trolling stingy
[435.6] Michael Rollins: and as a matter of fact they weren't trolling me. They were trolling other members of road to riot
[441.44] Michael Rollins: and you know there's I have a I have a fine line that I want a lot to be crossed
[449.6] Michael Rollins: which is you know if if you want to attack me that's fine
[453.84] Michael Rollins: but I don't appreciate it if you attack the interviewee that I have on the show. I don't
[458.4] Michael Rollins: particularly like that and I will often you know deal do away with some of those comments
[464.56] Michael Rollins: though I haven't had to very often but in this instance things crossed a line
[471.36] Michael Rollins: about midway through Sunday when some comments of a racial nature were made about cricket.
[479.2] Michael Rollins: There were some comments that were made about Zoe and at that point I started to get a little upset
[487.44] Michael Rollins: and unfortunately you know there's a there's a group y'all know who the group are. They started
[494.08] Michael Rollins: piling on and the comments got so out of hand that I eventually pulled the video and
[499.52] Michael Rollins: it was honestly not my intention to stir up more drama. I was you know I'm in the middle of you
[506.0] Michael Rollins: know I work I'm in the middle of my job and I'm having to like tend to a YouTube video that's out
[513.92] Michael Rollins: of hand and I didn't appreciate that I didn't like it. I had a conversation with Stingy and he said
[521.6] Michael Rollins: hey listen you know maybe let's put it back up with comments disabled so I did that.
[527.76] Michael Rollins: And I also disabled the comments on his second video but the the video that just went live today
[533.28] Michael Rollins: is that has comments open and so far so good. So it was it was really more along the lines of
[540.48] Michael Rollins: I wanted to kind of make a stance that I'm just not going to stand for that. I'm not going to allow
[546.64] Michael Rollins: people to disseminate hate on my channel and it's a personal thing and you know everybody a few
[554.16] Michael Rollins: people have been like hey dude it's YouTube you need to you need to you know just deal with it.
[558.8] Michael Rollins: But it's my channel and I can choose what I want to do so that's what I do. Your channel with your rules.
[564.56] AndyRC: How come he how come because I haven't seen this thing he won yet actually but how come he was
[572.72] AndyRC: getting these comments and no one else was on any of the others. Is there some sort of inside thing
[581.68] AndyRC: that went on? I think you could watch it and then kind of figure out what if not I'll explain
[590.88] Jack: it for you. I'll get the whiteboard out and a pen and then draw a diagram and send you some links.
[598.24] AndyRC: Okay so you don't want to get into it to the show so it must have been something okay.
[605.6] AndyRC: It feels time for a quick disclaimer we should say that any of you is expressed by any of you
[609.92] Curry: should say that any of you is expressed by any guests on this show. A personal may not reflect
[613.76] AndyRC: the views of the host or any participant of the show. Thank you Kari Kim. I just don't know what
[622.16] AndyRC: you know I'm trying to piece it together but I'll watch the video education. It seems unfortunately
[628.48] Curry: two of the the biggest companies or organizations in FPV have this sort of following that's gone
[635.44] Curry: beyond fandom onto some sort of religion and I'm talking about Roto Riot on one side and sort of
[640.08] Curry: TBS on another not necessarily against each other but whenever there's a pro or negative post on
[645.44] Curry: any of them then there's this like automatic jump in like it's a sort of religious persecution that
[651.04] Curry: they're all sort of attacking and then attacking back. I don't really understand the tribe mentality
[656.16] Curry: where people sort of group up and attack like that for for reasons. I don't know we kind of do that
[661.92] Jack: when we come on the show we just group up and attack each other you hairy. That's really that's
[672.4] Curry: really stuck with that. I'm getting the t-shirt printed up later. I've had about five phone calls
[679.84] AndyRC: about that. Just crying and he's like I can't believe daddy caused me that.
[689.28] Jack: So one question I would love to know I thought is I'm going to skip how you got into FPV but I want
[699.92] Jack: to know when you got into FPV and what the timeline is what was going on in FPV at the time.
[708.32] Michael Rollins: So I got if you know yeah so I got into FPV at the beginning of probably February March of 2016
[719.28] Michael Rollins: so to me it appeared at that time that Rotorite had just been around forever but apparently
[724.8] Michael Rollins: the whole show had just started. The thing that got me into FPV was the Hawaii Balls video by
[732.4] Michael Rollins: Chad Nowak. I watched that and was immediately hooked. I was like I want to do that.
[739.04] Michael Rollins: So right around the beginning of 2016 I actually bought a frame from Nito Frames the sexy little
[747.28] Michael Rollins: beast and spent hours and hours and hours building it out and then ultimately took it out
[757.84] Michael Rollins: one night at like 11 30 at night thinking I'm just gonna I didn't know what I was doing. I put
[764.64] Michael Rollins: my goggles on put it under a street lamp and gave it full throttle and lost it in the dark immediately
[772.0] Michael Rollins: and cut throttle and it was the perfect noob mistake and learned very quickly that these
[778.72] Michael Rollins: things are fast and that was that was my first flight and it was terrifying but it was a lot of
[786.64] Michael Rollins: fun from then on. So how did you get into FPV then? So I started with I walked into a friend's garage
[797.44] Michael Rollins: and he had an old flame wheel 450 that was in pieces and I said what's that and he said it's
[804.8] Michael Rollins: a drone I never built and I was interested in drones at the time. I thought maybe I wanted a
[808.88] Michael Rollins: Mavic or actually I'm sorry a phantom because Mavics didn't even exist at the time and I traded
[817.04] Michael Rollins: him a computer for the drone and I took it home and started working on it but you know this thing
[825.36] Michael Rollins: was massive it was an FPV I flew it line of sight every time it would touch the ground an arm would
[831.28] Michael Rollins: break off and I realized I was like you know I'm always losing visual orientation on this thing
[838.64] Michael Rollins: how could I do this better and eventually started you know going through YouTube and finding people
[845.92] Michael Rollins: flying FPV like Chad noac or Chad noac and other people and was like holy cow I could put a camera
[852.8] Michael Rollins: on the front of this thing and then eventually realized that oh well it probably shouldn't do
[858.0] Michael Rollins: it on a flame wheel 450. I could do it on something much smaller that's a little bit
[864.0] AndyRC: more robust because it's a carbon frame so that was it. Yeah take up much less space as well
[872.4] AndyRC: those flame wheels can get pretty big especially if you start putting retractable landing legs on
[878.24] AndyRC: them and stuff yeah but that's a little bit of a start didn't we? Was it the case of as soon as you saw
[885.84] Curry: FPV on I guess we call them mini quads that was it it's like that we don't need a camera drone
[891.52] Curry: that's out the window we want to do the swooping and the rolling and that sort of thing. Oh yeah
[896.0] Michael Rollins: I mean it was once I did FPV for the first time it was I was sold and now I do fly camera drones now
[905.12] Michael Rollins: which I you know I thought I was a badass FPV pilot so it should be super easy to fly a
[911.2] Michael Rollins: camera drone it turns out it's a wholly different skill set but yeah once you you know put the
[917.84] Michael Rollins: goggles on and your heart's about to come out of your chest and you're you're flying for the first
[924.16] Michael Rollins: approximately 3.8 seconds that you can manage to keep it in the air that was that was just
[931.04] Michael Rollins: absolutely riveting it was it was awesome I had one battery I don't think I had a charger
[938.24] Michael Rollins: I mean it was it was a disaster from the get-go but it was it was a lot of fun. I bet everyone
[944.88] AndyRC: can remember the first time they flew Acro with with like a five inch model because I certainly
[951.76] AndyRC: can I like I remember it like vividly just because of how scared I was because at that
[960.56] AndyRC: point I'd only ever flown brushed micros that's what I like that's what that was my thing and I
[968.8] AndyRC: never really had the intention to go any bigger but I just as my channel started to grow people
[976.24] AndyRC: were like oh you've got to do you've got to get five inch on I finally gave in and yeah
[983.44] AndyRC: it really it really gets the adrenaline go even now it's like something new comes out and you
[990.4] AndyRC: it's I mean you know not not a lot has changed but stuff gets quicker it gets you know you can run
[997.84] AndyRC: success now and there's all this new technology and especially when you've got something pricey
[1004.64] Curry: in the air as well you know it's a shame that I find it's really difficult because I was thinking
[1011.04] Curry: about this the other day because I was being asked about starting off and stuff uh thinking
[1015.76] Curry: back about that adrenaline the shaky legs the slightest orientation of the first time you have
[1020.88] Curry: the goggles and you turn your head and you're expecting the view to move and it doesn't your
[1024.16] Curry: brain does a little bit of a somersault you know what's going on that's really hard to recapture
[1029.28] Curry: and I only get it now by sort of just going really stupid and almost crashing into stuff
[1034.72] Curry: and just like oh it almost crashed there that was that was cool just more danger as needed to try and
[1041.12] Michael Rollins: get more adrenaline yeah is that just me or is that everybody else you know it's it's the
[1048.08] Michael Rollins: it's called the hedonistic treadmill like you you get used to something so much that you know what
[1054.64] Michael Rollins: used to seem impossible is not just everyday commonplace and um yeah I mean now I don't get
[1061.92] Michael Rollins: shaky flying I don't get the the adrenaline rush I mean I enjoy it um but to get the adrenaline
[1068.08] Michael Rollins: rush I've got to be doing something like flying way out over water and thinking I'm going to lose
[1072.96] Michael Rollins: my you know three or four hundred dollars worth of equipment here or doing something that's
[1079.36] Michael Rollins: probably questionable and I shouldn't be doing anyways um for legal reasons stop talking
[1089.44] AndyRC: for me you know if I'm a location that I know very well then I'll be smooth as anything on the sticks
[1097.52] AndyRC: but you know uh you'll perhaps try especially if you're traveling really far and you get to a
[1104.8] AndyRC: location and you know you're with a group of people you probably only get to do like three
[1110.48] AndyRC: packs and you know you're trying to hit these gaps and compete you end up sort of competing
[1118.32] AndyRC: with each other kind of thing not competing but you want to you know you want to get some good
[1123.68] AndyRC: footage and I that's where I really get stressed out I mean Tony can vouch for that you you know
[1130.48] AndyRC: I was shaking that much at this one place you could hear hear my throttle going up and down
[1136.32] AndyRC: as my my my fingers were shaking right turn thank you thank goodness that you can cut the
[1145.36] Jack: the throttle sound is all I say like did you remember your first pack you ever finished
[1152.08] Jack: because I do I think that's one of my what you mean finished without crashing it yeah yeah man
[1158.96] Michael Rollins: I think we all remember that I don't know that I do actually
[1169.84] Michael Rollins: there was a there was a pack I was actually out uh at my father-in-law's house and I went down
[1175.84] Michael Rollins: to a soccer field and I think that was the first time I ever felt like I flew a good pack
[1182.0] Michael Rollins: and uh I look back and I was so proud of it I made a video out of it it's still up on my
[1187.76] Michael Rollins: youtube now and it I look back at it now and it's so cringe-worthy I mean it's like the you
[1194.64] Michael Rollins: know they're they're it's like just basically a bunch of flips and rolls that are at like you
[1200.16] Michael Rollins: know 150 feet and uh but I thought I was really you know breaking ground I was going to be uh
[1206.72] Jack: in DRL at no point by that by then um yeah Aries asks uh when was the last time you flew a pack
[1216.48] Michael Rollins: just with all the interviewing stuff you've been doing um that's been tough so not only do I have
[1222.8] Michael Rollins: the interviewing stuff that I've been doing which is taking most of my evenings but I've also got a
[1227.2] Michael Rollins: job for a startup um so the last time I flew a whole pack was in Orlando back in god it's been
[1236.48] Michael Rollins: August now um and that was out flying with uh some of the Red Riot guys um and my son
[1246.0] Michael Rollins: and uh I flew a pack which was super fun we went to some school and then uh my son we at the time
[1252.96] Michael Rollins: his his drone was in in not so great shape so I let him fly mine and unfortunately it didn't make
[1259.2] Michael Rollins: it through that uh flight and then nobody nobody had a soldering iron and so I got to fly one pack
[1264.8] AndyRC: out in Florida and that was it are you going to be an episode then if you went out and met them
[1270.56] AndyRC: oh no no no no no no no are you nobody go ahead are you based in Florida then or or is literally
[1278.64] Michael Rollins: a trip just to meet everyone Tony does that as well so actually it was it was a trip for my son's
[1284.56] Michael Rollins: birthday um and we were going specifically to go to Universal Studios ah I love it there but I
[1291.28] Michael Rollins: reached out to to capper and said hey can I you know can we just come stop by and say hello
[1297.6] Michael Rollins: and us stopping by and saying hello turned into like a five-hour hangout session with uh him and
[1304.0] Michael Rollins: drew um so it was a lot of fun um and I really appreciate the time that they were able to spend
[1309.6] Michael Rollins: because not only was it like you know it's fun for me but like my son was just you know he'll go
[1315.44] Michael Rollins: he goes and watches a bunch of Red Riot trick tutorials pulls up the simulator and flies
[1321.28] Michael Rollins: and for him to be able to see these guys that he's been watching for forever um uh was was pretty
[1327.76] Michael Rollins: awesome and he's 12 so uh it was it was a pretty epic thing for him so so I'm gonna I've got a
[1335.76] Jack: playlist on my channel that's like my favorites and I just had a little look through to get get
[1343.2] Jack: your sort of timeline so does everyone remember Final Glide where he was diving down the mountain
[1349.92] Jack: of flipping backwards and you know he lost a GoPro out there it was called Proximity Redefined
[1356.4] Jack: yeah so you got into FPV after you know Matty Stuntz was doing the the the under the bridge
[1367.12] Jack: he'd fly up upside down and go in between the the ridges of the bridge and was doing the Matty Flips
[1374.56] Jack: so you were after the Matty Flip got invented and you were after FPV light track you know
[1381.6] Jack: we're putting the LED light tracks together and then so you're somewhere around Sunken City
[1387.52] Jack: the drone uh world uh pre-track yeah um the damn diving if everyone remember FPV life doing that
[1397.76] Jack: yeah and forever ever chasing you know with the uh with the trailer that's where your timeline
[1406.24] AndyRC: begins you could call it the start the height that's what I would call it yeah probably where
[1412.32] Jack: it was yeah whereas me and Tony were yeah we were like yeah fire was just discovered when Tony
[1425.04] Jack: started and then when we started tying sticks together that's when I come along about 2014
[1435.68] Tony: it was when HQ props you look at them and they snap yeah speaking of snapping I started flying
[1443.2] Jack: on doll props so I never do all right yeah that's it right if we get hold of him we're tweaking his
[1450.24] Jack: nipples and letting him know what it's what it was like back then it's bad man um what was that
[1457.52] Jack: what else uh spider FPV goes oh actually Steve FPV says hello Michael how are you well thank
[1465.44] Tony: you very much for asking Steve Ben heiman says non FPV question if Michael could interview anyone
[1472.08] Tony: famous celebrity or sports person who would it be better or live though I don't know
[1480.16] Michael Rollins: if if let's just assume alive for a moment um I would probably and this is totally because I'm a
[1489.84] Michael Rollins: I'm a fan um probably either Peter McKinnon or Cody Wanner just because I think they would be
[1495.28] Michael Rollins: a great interview um if it was dead um I think I'd wonder if I could interview you Jesus
[1505.2] AndyRC: that's a good one um did Jack just say Andy I'll see you yeah
[1515.12] Jack: why haven't you is is a good one for you uh why haven't you interviewed Andy I'll see or anyone
[1521.6] Jack: English are you racist
[1527.12] AndyRC: no no no the answer the answer is yes that's how the show works no no my favorite was I asked him
[1536.48] AndyRC: earlier and he was like who's Andy I'll see changed Cheryl's just that's exactly what Jack
[1543.92] AndyRC: said when they said shall we get Andy I'll see on the show he said who's Andy I'll see because
[1549.28] Jack: and and there's a I know who you are I went up to you and sprayed you with
[1554.4] Jack: some time lotion yeah this is before that let him talk sorry what were you gonna say Mike
[1562.72] Michael Rollins: no I you know what um as you know us Americans are very nationalistic and um I've only interviewed
[1569.68] Michael Rollins: one French guy and somebody from Poland um no seriously I I actually have uh had a few people
[1576.8] Michael Rollins: mention to me that I have not had a lot of international there you go I've not had a lot
[1581.92] Michael Rollins: of international um uh folks on it's been very US centric and I'm not uh I'm going to try to
[1588.0] Michael Rollins: correct for that so Andy maybe you can put yourself on the clock that uh at some point
[1593.52] Michael Rollins: we're going to have international month and I'd love to have you on well let me ask a follow-up
[1597.92] Curry: question of that might be because now you know blowing up you you must um people must be quite
[1604.16] Curry: willing to come and talk to you are you getting any body that's said no yet or are they all pretty
[1609.52] Michael Rollins: friendly about coming on um I have had a couple different no's and most of them were cavioted
[1617.68] Michael Rollins: with now is not the right time um and I'm not going to divulge who um because I I don't want
[1623.92] Michael Rollins: to jinx it for the future but there have been a there's been one specific person that uh responded
[1630.08] Michael Rollins: back that said no um there's been plenty of people that I asked that said that just never
[1635.52] Michael Rollins: responded um you know like I've asked Johnny Johnny share hey you want to come on the show
[1641.52] Michael Rollins: and like I never never heard back from him uh well he's very busy yeah well and and you know
[1648.48] Michael Rollins: sometimes when I get start what I typically do is I go through I'll put like four or five people
[1654.08] Michael Rollins: together in a two-week span and interview them all at one time and then you know stretch that out
[1659.04] Michael Rollins: over a month um so you know I'll reach out to a bunch of people at one time and just say hey
[1665.2] Michael Rollins: you know you want to come on this Tuesday you want to come on next Wednesday how do you want to do
[1668.48] Michael Rollins: this um one person in that whole time period has said not right now it's not a good time for me
[1676.8] Michael Rollins: um and for the most part everybody that has responded has in some way shape or form come
[1683.04] Michael Rollins: on the show or been willing to come on the show that's good because we get a lot of non-responses
[1687.52] Curry: as well as I'm in bed by then and I don't want to stay up which is uh one of the best excuses
[1693.52] Curry: very when he was in the UK and it's only 8 30 here shots fired I'm mentioning their names
[1703.2] AndyRC: to be fair there's not many people we haven't heard on the show though really if you get
[1708.56] Jack: shampoo on and you don't ring me mongol I consider you not a friend by the way I'll just put that out
[1714.88] Michael Rollins: now he is he is one of the no answers he is I've reached out I've had two emails off him
[1725.92] AndyRC: like they've just went no if they can't get on road to riot then it is not gonna come on here
[1731.68] Jack: is he let's face it I'm I'm tempted to stalk him and be like oh go away once you come on my show
[1739.92] AndyRC: he's too busy working on Toy Story 5 why don't we just hang on to him he can stalk him down and
[1746.08] Michael Rollins: do his do his internet but the question the question is if you get shampoo do you have to
[1751.36] Jack: end the show yeah I think so you can't oh can you beat that can you tell me yeah what do you do
[1758.24] Jack: what do you do after that it's like who's gonna want to come on after shampoo I feel sorry for
[1764.0] Jack: you because you probably won't be able to get um do you like someone I do wish you could do I done
[1771.04] Jack: a I done a solo interview with Boris B and I feel like I I felt like I totally messed that up
[1778.48] Jack: because I added some of the after chat in there because it was really funny and it was you sort
[1784.16] Jack: of got to see a side of Boris that you you never did I don't know whether it kind of like
[1790.72] Jack: but I ran it by him first to be like oh yo you were right with this and he said yeah he said
[1796.08] Jack: it was fine but and then he just got deep into the code and no one's really heard of him since
[1801.84] Tony: it was him who made me fly I was drunk one night believe it or not and uh yes I was uh
[1808.16] Tony: I watched him flying over some trees and I was like I'm doing that gotta do that
[1814.4] AndyRC: that's how you got me flying can I can I can I just just ask has um do you have sort of a past
[1823.52] AndyRC: of interviewing people or or did it just sort of happen because you're very natural at it and
[1830.8] AndyRC: prepare very well it's almost like you know you have a past of doing it or is it was it just
[1836.48] Michael Rollins: something that came natural and it you know yeah so I um I had uh along with the guy who's now my
[1843.76] Michael Rollins: ceo interestingly enough um I had a podcast called tech moonshine and we went for about 25 26
[1853.68] Michael Rollins: episodes um there was a lost episode in there unfortunately um we would just it was just
[1859.52] Michael Rollins: general tech it was a podcast it wasn't video um but I I learned the interview skill from that
[1867.28] Michael Rollins: um and then I you know I've also because of where I've worked been through a lot of interview
[1872.72] Michael Rollins: training um which is most of its crap but I've pulled a few things from it um so but I mean a
[1879.12] Michael Rollins: lot of it is just ask people a good question and let them talk and when they talk they just keep
[1884.72] Jack: talking and it normally works out pretty well so everyone's favorite subject is themselves
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[1920.48] Curry: following on from one of the the stingy questions you asked about and it you said it yourself you
[1926.32] Curry: sort of were quite sad about it because it sounded like really he was going to have to go
[1930.56] Curry: back to being a commercial airline pilot not that that's a bad career oh what a shame but you've
[1935.92] Curry: talked about like you know is it possible for me to give up my full-time job and do you know
[1940.56] Curry: something that you love but how did you sort of feel after that do you feel there's actually a
[1945.76] Curry: career to be eked out in FPV just like on youtube or whatever that's a tough one um so the the stingy
[1955.2] Michael Rollins: video the stingy interview let's let's talk about the interview as opposed to the videos that came
[1959.76] Michael Rollins: out of it um the stingy interview left me sad in a sense because number one i mean i was ecstatic
[1967.52] Michael Rollins: to be able to talk to stingy i mean you know everybody loves him he's got a great personality
[1973.12] Michael Rollins: he's one of the original og's from atlanta i mean he's just he's super well known and he's just
[1979.84] Michael Rollins: super personable and then to all of a sudden hear that yeah this FPV thing isn't really working out
[1986.8] Michael Rollins: i'm probably going to go back to my old job it's it's a selfish sadness right where like all of a
[1993.6] Michael Rollins: sudden i'm like man maybe i'm not going to see a lot of stingy videos in the future or maybe um
[2000.4] Michael Rollins: he's not going to be around as much or he's not going to be there to innovate um and then there's
[2005.68] Michael Rollins: also the sadness of is it if if this guy can't make it can other people make it and certainly
[2012.56] Michael Rollins: people are making it um but the the profession of FPV is changing and moving away from kind of the
[2022.24] Michael Rollins: gorilla skateboarder style FPV that i think we're all used to um and we we actually covered in the
[2028.88] Michael Rollins: last episode that we're on now where you know it it ultimately devolves into access if you have
[2035.52] Michael Rollins: access to a great location or to somebody that's making a movie then you can make it in FPV uh but
[2044.96] Michael Rollins: it's not about the building dives anymore it's not about the heyday where all of a sudden somebody's
[2049.92] Michael Rollins: you know i mean tommy's dugadive for instance right like there was access there in terms of
[2055.44] Michael Rollins: being able to get to Chernobyl but there's only one dugadive and that was awesome and all that
[2062.72] Michael Rollins: stuff has kind of been done so where does the hobbyist FPV go now and um so hearing Stingy say
[2070.88] Michael Rollins: yeah you know i'm going to go back to being an airline pilot or that he might and i don't know
[2075.76] Michael Rollins: that he's made this decision yet um was for me it was just one of those okay maybe this is a hobby
[2084.32] Michael Rollins: and it's going to stay a hobby for a lot of people um but i know you know the first two years
[2089.28] Michael Rollins: that i flew i wanted it to be my job right like i'm a i'm a software engineer i make great money
[2095.84] Michael Rollins: but man if i could make like half the money and just fly FPV all the time that would be great um
[2102.08] Michael Rollins: and you know hearing from Stingy that that's not that's not in the cards for him maybe um it was
[2107.92] AndyRC: just a sobering moment for me yeah it used to be on the cards and then everybody jumped on the
[2114.56] AndyRC: bandwagon and you know so it's kind of like a pyramid scheme i guess you could say you know
[2123.04] AndyRC: the the more people uh that think that are inspired by people you know doing these sort
[2132.16] AndyRC: so things like freestyle videos and stuff oh i'll do that and you know the the monopoly is
[2139.92] AndyRC: spread out and the the OGs don't get so much of the cut because that is just it's an inundated
[2149.92] AndyRC: area now you know there's so many i mean that's a good thing but when it comes to uh making a
[2156.48] AndyRC: career out of it um i wouldn't advise it would you Wayne no to put it in perspective i i make
[2165.04] Curry: about one tenth in a good month of what i made as a software engineer but on on on the flip side
[2170.72] Curry: i mean i feel the positive thing out of that might be that when you're making videos purely
[2176.56] Curry: for the love of just doing it rather than thinking i've got to put videos out because i've you know
[2180.56] Curry: i've got to put food on the table you might get better results off there of course you might not
[2185.36] Curry: get as many videos or as as many innovations or product development but at least you know it'll
[2191.2] AndyRC: be done for love this um this was a problem that uh i came across quite a lot um because
[2201.04] AndyRC: when i started youtube monetization wasn't a thing affiliate links wasn't a thing i was doing
[2209.36] AndyRC: it because i didn't have enough space on my hard drive to put my flight videos on there that was
[2215.28] AndyRC: literally you know the reason youtube cloud storage yeah that's what well that's what it was
[2222.0] AndyRC: yeah um and it progressed from there but now i get i get like emails saying how do i get
[2230.4] AndyRC: sam free stuff and i'm like that's not how it works if you're if you're going into it
[2237.84] AndyRC: with the intention of i'm i want to make this my job that it's never going to work because i think
[2247.6] AndyRC: for me it was kind of like a stopgap and still is and i think it's it will eventually like come to
[2255.84] AndyRC: an end um you know because it'll it'll just get more flooded i think there'll just be more people
[2262.8] AndyRC: doing it and stuff but i'll still make videos you know um but it's the people who will you know
[2270.64] AndyRC: who say oh i'm gonna have to stop making videos if if i haven't got x amount of patrons no i'll
[2276.8] AndyRC: still do it i mean i probably couldn't dedicate as much time to it because you've got a full-time
[2281.44] AndyRC: job but you do it for the love of it do it for the love of it not because you know you want a free
[2287.84] AndyRC: you want to weigh out of your day job you know because it put you it's it's really difficult to
[2295.52] AndyRC: even with the hundreds of thousands of subscribers you know unless you've got product that is the
[2304.08] AndyRC: that's the key if you look at the people who are successful they have product or having their name
[2311.04] AndyRC: on a product and they're getting quite a bit of kickback from that uh yeah mike um how what was
[2319.76] Jack: the deal with um the uh hype trains for you uh so are you talking to the product yeah then i think
[2330.16] Michael Rollins: i quit well the blast i had the i had the no no not the hype train so so here so first off um
[2340.45] Michael Rollins: um i've got them back on um i gave them giving them can y'all see that yeah i like the fact that
[2349.89] Curry: that gopro mount has definitely been in the mud well you know what you know you get a you get a
[2356.53] Michael Rollins: gopro mount for nit and white it's not gonna look pretty after one flight it's just i was like man
[2362.05] Michael Rollins: i'm gonna have a quarter through your rig red and black so um i'll talk you through i'll talk
[2368.61] Michael Rollins: you through this one um so this is uh the nb primos 2207 25 50s um i've got whatever camera i had
[2377.81] Michael Rollins: at the time on the front of it um uh i have the x racer f303 board up there um and the red rotor
[2387.25] Michael Rollins: osd which is my favorite osd and that's old school i don't know if anybody even remembers that stuff
[2393.17] Michael Rollins: anymore um i fly really old equipment because i just don't have time to build and so i typically
[2401.25] Michael Rollins: tend to just repair replace with like um i've got uh i don't know i don't even know what this vtx
[2409.17] Michael Rollins: is and then this is uh uh the what's the really small um tyrannis module for quads um and then
[2419.49] AndyRC: that's an r xsr from what i can see it's got the plug on it and then um uh my escs i think are
[2430.13] Michael Rollins: uh speed x speed x 30 amps um and that's it it's not complex it's not there's not a lot to it
[2438.29] Michael Rollins: um i still fly the five the session five um and yeah i actually this one's really fun to fly with
[2445.25] Michael Rollins: the um s3 props um because the the high high kv along with the low pitch prop means that it
[2452.69] Michael Rollins: everything responds really well um the original rotor riot height train motors were probably my
[2459.01] Michael Rollins: favorite motors of all time um but i had the v1 which had the bell issue where if you just
[2465.65] Michael Rollins: looked at it funny that the bell would break um apparently that has been fixed i put my money
[2472.37] Michael Rollins: back into it i did not get a get a set for free um went ahead and bought a new set and i'm looking
[2479.41] Michael Rollins: to i actually took that quad out to remade in it um the other day but forgot that the motor
[2485.33] Michael Rollins: direction from the um uh from the silt the uh original where are they um from these bad
[2494.61] Michael Rollins: boys is the polarity is reversed on these versus the hype trains um so i didn't actually get it
[2501.73] Michael Rollins: in the air and i just haven't had a chance to actually reverse the esc direction on it yet so
[2506.77] Jack: um were they steels yeah those steels yeah v1s as well they've got buttons on yeah these are
[2515.01] Jack: be these are v1s oh man with a chewy shaft and horrible sounding bearings yep oh man that's the
[2524.05] Jack: good on you mr 2016 i'm still flying that equipment oh man tony you remember when that
[2532.61] Curry: stuff was dug out the ground there's minerals uh we're doing that challenge get get the old
[2538.05] Curry: quads down if you've got my i've still got my one from like 2013 let alone 2016 wow which will fly
[2545.33] Jack: the gem fan 50 30s i've got uh i've i've got an original tricopter v1 you know the v1
[2553.33] Jack: oh obviously i've got the tricopter never didn't buy that anymore it's like trying to play a brick
[2558.53] Jack: and we we've redone frank's rat's nest where we got the uh what were they called the the bl heli
[2567.57] Jack: eses but they they're not bl heli made by emacs they're 12 amp and like you're attaching them to
[2574.61] Jack: the programming points and like actually flashing um bl heli on there they they don't have um
[2585.01] Jack: damn the lights there's no breaking on them uh it was attached to a what the hell was that frame
[2592.69] Jack: called oh we we took about zr yeah the zmr yeah wow oh god yeah yeah v1 zmr 12 amp eses i mean
[2603.49] Jack: there's people in the hobby that don't know what a simon k ese is i think michael might have just
[2610.37] Michael Rollins: dodged that no i actually had simon k eses on the f the uh flame wheel oh good oh man there's no they
[2620.05] Jack: were dark days um spider fpv asks does he know west pride fpv i do not know and ben swiney goes
[2632.37] Jack: how did you reach out and to the roto riot guys in order to uh get the whole current set of pilots
[2641.49] Michael Rollins: richard warwick ass who is simon k um yeah you know what the base areas the the roto riot guys um
[2653.57] Michael Rollins: i had had a couple just brief chats with uh chad capper um and one or two chats with um drew uh
[2662.53] Michael Rollins: back when drew was flying for mqc um and uh so i had the contacts it wasn't like i talked to
[2671.41] Michael Rollins: them on a regular basis or even knew them um and then once uh once chad came on my my youtube show
[2680.93] Michael Rollins: um it just kind of took off from there um and then once chad came on then i had drew then i
[2687.33] Michael Rollins: had tyler and i've i've gone through quite a few others at this point so people are complaining
[2693.57] Jack: that nobody's talked about knobs oh man michael you allowed to talk about knobs or religious
[2703.41] Michael Rollins: reason not um you know i i prefer to keep my knob where it is for the most part but uh i bring it
[2710.69] Curry: out for my wife periodically the slang is being american but normally we get a confused look it's
[2718.69] Curry: like what is the word what are you what's an op have i do i have a knob what's going on
[2724.13] Curry: have you got or can you reveal if you've got any guests of note coming up soon that you want to
[2728.61] Michael Rollins: talk about um so the you know what's interesting is october i dedicated to folks that were not as
[2737.49] Michael Rollins: well known um so next week you guys should see mike chin um he's got a little bit of notoriety
[2744.13] Michael Rollins: but the guy works tirelessly behind the scenes to make sure that people are supported um i'm
[2749.89] Michael Rollins: probably going to have derek brown on uh the second week of october and then um the third
[2756.61] Michael Rollins: week of october is actually a local guy a friend of mine named rob garland um he goes by loco fpv
[2764.45] Michael Rollins: and uh he uh the whole idea is you know somebody asked me they're like what are you gonna do when
[2772.45] Michael Rollins: when you run out of all the famous people to interview and i was like well there's plenty
[2776.77] Michael Rollins: of stories to be told that are not from famous people um so why don't i go ahead and start
[2782.61] Michael Rollins: telling those stories now um so that's what the next three weeks looks like um after that um i
[2789.81] Michael Rollins: don't know we'll see i typically andy rc should definitely be up there i'm not that interesting i
[2796.13] Curry: don't think there's a guy called penis 363 he will talk forever though if you get you know
[2802.93] AndyRC: just ask him whatever he's trying so hard not to talk i'm not talking tonight guys because you
[2816.37] AndyRC: just have me all the time on it so i don't get to speak to a lot of people in the week so
[2823.41] AndyRC: you know it all just pours out on this show you know i sit in silence for a week and then thursday
[2830.53] AndyRC: happens and it's like verbal diarrhea you know he'll be good on the show andy he'll do it
[2838.21] Michael Rollins: i'll do it i'll do it i can have andy on and the best part about having andy on is that i'll just
[2843.65] Michael Rollins: ask him one question and then he'll he'll just carry the show from there yep yeah if you if you
[2848.21] Jack: want to know it off he is like one of those wind up monkeys he just a few turns and then it's just
[2854.45] Jack: clash clash clash brilliant job done like jack rings me like every other day
[2862.93] AndyRC: and then when i hung up the call i was like i'm not sure jack actually spoke
[2872.69] AndyRC: he's usually speaking to somewhere else when it is no well he does that don't you're on your phone
[2877.41] Tony: and then he's wander off into a chip shop or something going and then you go are you talking
[2882.29] Tony: to me because i ain't got no bloody chips what are you talking about and then realize he's talking
[2886.53] Jack: to someone else yeah that's jack i get easily distracted david windows stall you should track
[2892.93] Jack: to him oh yeah yeah you could hook him up with david oh lovely man well unfortunately david lives
[2902.05] Jack: under eu domain so passing his information on will be a breaching of gdpr whatever it's called
[2911.09] Jack: so uh i can if i can take your details i can pass it on to david um great uh who oh
[2921.01] Jack: sharp who do you reckon you'll ever be able to get a sharp who on i don't know i can try we want to
[2927.17] Curry: get we want to get peter as well don't we yeah lots of people are saying who keeps not responding
[2935.73] Curry: to our emails about coming on this show we know who we are we had him in the chat and it wasn't his
[2941.01] Michael Rollins: judge that was his real account sorry michael bruce bruce is tentatively scheduled actually i i
[2948.58] Michael Rollins: should have remembered that so he he may be coming on in november i'll put a i'll tell him to come
[2953.62] AndyRC: respond to your emails uh the the problem with with bruce is it's it's six a.m when we we start
[2961.62] Jack: day you know so i'd move the show just one night him and sharp who can do whatever they want
[2969.22] Michael Rollins: you could do uh you could do stew as well from uav futures as well you know i reached out to him
[2975.86] Michael Rollins: and unfortunately the email thread just kind of went quiet um and i haven't revived it yet i think
[2981.7] Michael Rollins: he at the time i think he was going through a move and there was some other stuff going on um so yeah
[2986.82] AndyRC: he's had a lot going on lately yeah that's that was my take on it seems like he's settled
[2991.94] AndyRC: up down nowadays so maybe maybe now is the time to he's coming on somebody else's show
[2999.86] Michael Rollins: i can't remember who but i heard about him going on someone else's show all right he hopes i paid
[3005.62] AndyRC: briefly didn't he in our christmas show i got him on christmas yeah just a little short while yeah
[3012.42] AndyRC: because uh he's he's got a young child so he gets gets up early so those are the ones to go for
[3019.54] AndyRC: like we have thomas and bms where they get up early so we can just get them on i tell you who
[3027.14] Michael Rollins: i would love to talk to is black out in metal danny i keep hearing those names come up you know
[3033.14] Michael Rollins: that those are like those are like you know you talk to chad noack and he's like oh well there
[3038.5] Michael Rollins: was this guy black out and then you talk to everybody else and it's like oh the blackout
[3042.74] Michael Rollins: frame and then you hear people talking about metal danny and i'm like owner and boris is another one
[3049.14] Michael Rollins: like a lot of times tracking people down is the hardest part of getting yeah a lot of those
[3054.58] Curry: once you once you get to them metal danny seems to have retired from flying and yeah of course
[3061.3] Curry: the blackout frame was that really first mini quad that came yeah was there and everybody jumped on
[3067.38] Curry: it that's that's what really turned it around because before then we were all flying 450s
[3072.1] Curry: trying to fly through trees and stuff which is interesting they don't fit that well no that's
[3076.98] Curry: like flying in next class trees tony have you done that uh over them not through them coward yeah
[3086.74] Jack: yeah oh tony's off to somewhere i don't know whether you're allowed to talk about that
[3092.66] Jack: going to texas yeah with his old ex-class you're gonna fit right in tony yes well i should be
[3099.78] AndyRC: meeting zoe and a few other the guys over there oh brilliant yeah make sure you make sure you've
[3106.26] Curry: loved that town yeah i remember i remember going to texas and going out for dinner because the last
[3111.94] Curry: it was a work thing and the last person that came was a vegan and they couldn't quite work him out
[3117.62] Curry: there that this is a new thing it's like we're going to an all-you-can-eat ribs barbecue
[3122.82] Curry: what do you want just like salad it's like can i just have some chips please pick your
[3127.7] Curry: restaurants carefully it would be my advice yeah that'll be all right yeah i'm looking forward to
[3134.58] Tony: uh for going to farmersville texas um it was a ex-class importational do so yeah is this uh
[3144.42] AndyRC: so it's a paid trip then is it tony or the um well me and martin have paid for our flights
[3151.86] Tony: because i'm taking fossil stuff me and martin are going together and the where we're staying
[3158.5] Jack: is all big all been paid for yeah look at that look in the chat there's a guy called long range fpv
[3165.22] Jack: i think that might be a good lead to uh metal danny lives 50k from my house
[3171.94] Michael Rollins: long range hit me up on uh youtube messenger and let me know who you are
[3176.58] Curry: metal danny's address is youtube got a messenger yeah we found it that time remember and then we
[3182.18] Curry: couldn't work out how to get the messages facebook messenger damn yeah facebook yeah
[3187.38] Jack: hound um we're gonna need a youtube window so if you if you hover over him you'll get the three
[3192.5] Jack: buttons there right click on that uh uh yeah left click on that and it'll open and it was like go to
[3201.78] Jack: go to channel and then maybe he might have yeah some info he's only got 55 subscribers so if you
[3209.14] Jack: want to uh if you want to give him a follow oh view email address there you go i don't have that so
[3218.42] Michael Rollins: that is i think that's on your side exactly maybe you need to make him a mug jack oh i see that i
[3224.66] Michael Rollins: see him now i see hold on i see yo it's in it's in our chat now a little the little triple thing
[3229.62] Jack: yeah man maybe getting leads fishing on our show michael how is um that was a question
[3237.46] Jack: from someone else earlier i think it was ben swiney goes how are you finding it being the interviewee
[3244.18] Michael Rollins: um you know what it's fun i mean it's it's it's enjoyable um you know i i came out if if it was a
[3252.58] Michael Rollins: uh complete in total uh you know if you guys were coming after me or whatever i was going to just
[3257.94] Michael Rollins: turn the tables and start interviewing y'all but okay uh it seems to be very mellow and very
[3263.7] Jack: works out very well so i don't mind answering questions yeah i mean i'm one thing i'm like
[3269.7] Jack: one thing i enjoy that other people might not necessarily get enjoyment from um on a personal
[3277.78] Jack: level is that i've interviewed a few people and it's interesting because i got the perspective
[3282.82] Jack: of when it was all happening and then you interview them and you get other bits of information
[3289.38] Jack: that they didn't tell me at the time yeah and stuff like that and that's really interesting
[3294.5] Jack: like well and then there's the and then there's the after show yeah oh man most of our most of
[3301.46] AndyRC: our best moments are not ever recorded yeah that happens afterwards where because like it's a little
[3309.46] AndyRC: bit you know you know you're live but as soon as that's gone it's like all of a sudden everybody
[3315.38] AndyRC: relaxes and things open up yeah so uh we find that the same yeah so i found out some interesting
[3324.58] Jack: information yeah i andy i see after one show you found out that he was into country country
[3331.3] Jack: and western singing it's that blew my mind what shut up
[3339.7] AndyRC: who's into country and western you are i like a bit of shania twain is that what i said
[3347.7] Jack: that's about as far as it goes though have you got have you got any questions for us
[3352.5] Jack: like other than you don't know who we are jack i know we know it's andy everyone knows andy i
[3359.46] Michael Rollins: everybody knows andy really do they cool i mean yeah name one thing he's reviewed i i can't answer
[3371.78] Michael Rollins: though i have you know what i can say this i have seen it i have seen andy rc over in different
[3379.22] Michael Rollins: facebook groups people mentioning you or saying things about you so yeah the the name definitely
[3385.14] Michael Rollins: comes through you have some some amount of notoriety that reaches across over here well
[3389.38] AndyRC: my mind probably the the one thing that keeps me going is we had johnnie fpv on the show and he
[3396.5] AndyRC: said i got him into fpv so that's all i need that's all i need and i watched i was like watching a
[3404.42] AndyRC: video and he was uh sat next to alex albarn because i'm a big f1 fan and uh he was uh i think
[3413.46] AndyRC: the video is called uh fpv drone against formula one car and i was like man that's johnny you know
[3421.62] AndyRC: i was i was like i i think i think he may have well i think he may have gotten into it anyways
[3430.5] AndyRC: you know but you know it was nice to know that he was watching my little hubson videos that i was
[3436.1] Jack: making years ago you know planted the seed there he was crying and said my baby
[3446.26] Michael Rollins: i do have a question for y'all you guys have been going for four years how haven't i killed tony
[3453.94] Michael Rollins: well how i mean you know like i i know the amount of effort that goes into just one of
[3459.22] Michael Rollins: one of my weeks right one one show um how have you guys managed to keep it up for four years
[3465.06] Michael Rollins: because there's definitely a lot of energy that goes into something like this well well this is
[3470.82] AndyRC: that this is where you have is wrong because we have no plans whatsoever we don't we don't
[3477.7] Curry: prepare anything no that's a lot right it's true michael it's best there's been actual questions
[3484.9] Curry: there's been thought normally it's just us lot just hanging out because we all live in different
[3489.7] Curry: parts of the country and we don't get to hang out together so most of the time we do just talk about
[3494.9] Curry: random subjects with the occasional drone bit thrown in if there's a nice guest
[3501.38] Jack: i'm here for the people who tune in every thursday yeah and not me not my friendship
[3508.66] Jack: not that i had to destroy a president and he goes no that's a sheep dildo in front of these
[3516.34] Jack: these women that i've never met before and i was like it's not a sheep dildo and then this woman
[3521.86] Jack: was like you wrap that where's the tape and i'm like you don't even know me like that was the
[3528.66] Curry: first thing is this a dildo in the shape of a sheep or a dildo designed to be used by a sheep
[3534.98] AndyRC: i'm confused so so my just just so this is what it's like every week that last 30 seconds
[3545.38] AndyRC: that was it that was it
[3555.5] Michael Rollins: what's once we start talking about sheep dildos it's all down here
[3560.06] AndyRC: no but we haven't answered my we haven't answered his question and that is
[3565.5] AndyRC: and he stopped talking yeah but frank no one can hear frank are they
[3570.06] Jack: oh what you asked the question jet you started it um oh god and you slash frank
[3578.46] Jack: organization um it's a collection of meeting up your friends uh i wanted to record fpv and
[3587.58] Jack: our journey through it and i think that you know a lot of people have come and gone and i'm glad
[3592.38] Jack: i've done that we've done that and um yeah it's it's it's an online pub where you meet all your
[3601.26] Jack: mates once a week and it's a way for me to be like you know show off my friends my friends
[3607.34] Jack: are awesome you know they they they keep me going you know and uh and it holds me accountable
[3616.06] AndyRC: if i do ever murder tony we we are lucky enough as well that even though
[3622.94] AndyRC: like england's quite a small well the uk is quite a small place i mean it feels big to us you know
[3630.38] AndyRC: like it's a it's a four-hour journey for me to get to jet which in america you're probably like
[3636.22] AndyRC: four hours what like you know but to what's still in my state yeah exactly but you know if
[3642.94] AndyRC: if my car makes it to four hours i have to give it a little clap when it gets there because it
[3648.46] AndyRC: rather it's not yeah it's very you know it's on its left leg blessed it so should we should we
[3655.58] Jack: should we call it there before frank kills us right uh thank you so much for coming on the show
[3662.86] Jack: right it means a lot this is great it's not hopefully we learn something tonight lads
[3669.1] Jack: about interviewing people i don't drop i was on my best behavior
[3675.98] Curry: if we learn things we have to give joshua bardwell a cut yeah you're not allowed to say that word
[3681.5] Curry: anymore jack what so if we learn something today we have to give joshua bardwell a cut of the money
[3687.02] Jack: yeah well you know he get a haircut again jack you hairy
[3695.82] Jack: that's another swear word um yep thank you you've been listening to let's go now thank you everyone
[3701.1] Jack: for tuning in thank you to all our patrons who keep this show afloat and stop andrew from
[3706.46] Jack: andrew slash frank from killing me tonight you've been joined by andrew slash frank who you can't
[3711.74] Jack: hear hello i'll turn you all into biscuits that's what he said um uh daddy goodbye michael
[3725.02] Jack: thank you for having me andy rc good night everyone and he really did enjoy his present
[3733.42] Tony: tell him what i gave you you gave me a second hand wrapped up bicycling pump yeah
[3741.42] Jack: revenge and beer and two beers yeah and handmade card oh the card was the best
[3751.66] Jack: and it came with a voucher
[3755.66] Jack: was it was that a voucher that i could use yeah it's a legal binding document it was witnessed
[3761.82] Jack: and signed and everything what was it voucher for like a free sign out next week thank you good night
[3768.46] AndyRC: hello and you're listening to let's drone out the best drone based podcast on the internet we would
[3774.46] AndyRC: like to thank our patrons including licky dread and also art falconer and lastly that's it we've
[3784.14] Jack: only got two of the four patreons that don't hate to have their names read out so
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