=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 219 ===
Title: LDO 219 - Jumpin' Jack's Stash of Crack, Crack, Crack
Recorded: 2019-11-07
Hosts: Andy, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 3,314
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brbyshw_vdY); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/710812402-letsdroneout-ldo-219-jumpin-jacks-stash-of-crack-crack-crack.mp3)
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[69.06] Jack: if you want to know the secret sauce behind how a show can run successfully for four years
[76.18] Frank: it's Andrew slash Frank. I wasn't there for the first bit so I can't show you where you want to be.
[81.38] Jack: I was like well you come on then if you want it better and you did and that's how the show
[89.06] Jack: continues somehow and then someone else said that they could do it better and I was like go on then
[97.06] Jack: and then we all know how that happened because Frank wasn't there and Frank got very angry so
[104.5] Jack: and we all learned a valuable lesson not to annoy Frank and through those horrible four
[110.82] Jack: years constantly Tony has been with me like some sort of tumor that's grown on me slowly.
[117.3] Jack: What's the beard about? Is it because the CIA has made a register and you think that you should
[124.66] Tony: yeah I grow this they take a photo and then I shave it all off and they won't know who it is
[131.22] Jack: symbols. Also a reason why the show might not continue due to legal reasons it's Andy R. C.
[140.1] Jack: I'll do. And to save us all from getting soothed Kerry Kitten with the disclaimer.
[149.06] Curry: Hello any views expressed by any guests especially about crack on this show are
[154.66] Curry: personal and may not reflect the views of the host or any participant of the show.
[159.38] Jack: Well if you tuned into this I'm not talking about your crack.
[163.22] Jack: He's got better things to do. Yeah I know well I don't know anymore we we got her a dishwasher
[169.62] Jack: so I'm going to get beaten for that. I'm very misogynistic and I don't I don't agree with those
[178.5] Jack: views. Missing my Jack Curry twitch madness. I know it wasn't. Curry would you like to explain
[185.62] Curry: yourself? We attempted to play twitch last night going back to the robot babysitting game also
[191.78] Curry: known as Detroit. Detroit something or other and what had happened is the PS4 remote player which
[199.14] Curry: I used to get onto my Mac to stream on the internet needed to update and then my Mac didn't
[203.94] Curry: support the version of it and I tried to hack it and it didn't work and so either someone's going
[209.62] Curry: to fix the hack for me because I don't want to have to upgrade or we're going to play something
[213.22] Curry: else but we will select another game if necessary. That's not the story I heard. The story I heard
[219.62] AndyRC: was that Jack was trying to set you up with his mum. Well that was afterwards. Oh that was
[225.38] Jack: territory dangerous territory. Oh no she's not coming upstairs it's fine we should be all right
[231.38] Jack: I might live another day. Who was it was it Clive FPV the little bugger who said I should fill out
[240.9] Jack: the I should fill out the actual questionnaire on the ldo questions yeah and so they can watch me
[250.1] Jack: fail it I mean does it is it class is cheating if you have Frank with you on the same call whilst
[257.94] Jack: you do the test. Frank's doing my test for beer. And then you go through them and then eventually
[273.94] Jack: he's like yes you can choose that one because it's the right answer.
[280.1] Frank: It will be quicker to google it I'll just make it really awkward.
[285.62] AndyRC: We won't have to do any tests though right we're all part of the BMFA. Yeah but we haven't done
[291.38] Tony: the we've got to do it by January the 30th isn't it yeah. I'm not part of the BMFA. Have I got to do
[300.02] Frank: anything we're having a B-cert. You've got to find the exemption and print it off and keep that with
[306.9] Frank: you. The instructions on it. Where do you want a printed version? Can I get Richard Esquire? Can I
[315.78] AndyRC: get it like tattooed on my hand or something? Have it with you all the time. Oh god. Well when you're
[323.54] AndyRC: flying. Not literally every way. Any time I'm outside I'm flying so yeah get it tattooed. Maybe
[331.94] Curry: you should use the tactic of the Mavic Mini. It's got 249g printed on the side. If you just put that
[337.62] Curry: write it on all your quarter the slight doesn't need it.
[344.18] Jack: Yeah but you yeah but no in Tony. Well if Tony did that my simple solution would get the same
[350.02] Jack: colour pen and write HZ next to it so it's an illegal frequency.
[355.3] AndyRC: We're just putting one in front of it.
[361.62] AndyRC: Mondo FPV hey how's it going it says I've not registered because Andy RC said not to.
[366.98] Jack: I just had this idea. For real reasons don't listen to Andy RC. We've already given that notice
[373.94] AndyRC: but safe. I just had this idea that if nobody registered then it's all been an entire waste
[380.74] AndyRC: of money because it's not going to catch criminals anyways so you know what's what's the point and
[386.82] AndyRC: then you know they'll be all mad at the politicians. We've got you know there's so many to be dealt
[396.64] AndyRC: with and it's like I think the last thing you know we've got knife crime this is a huge problem.
[404.64] AndyRC: I don't think us flying our little toys in the field is high priority so my suggestion was
[412.64] AndyRC: we all boycott everything it's been a huge waste of money and then. Oh I've done that Andy.
[420.48] AndyRC: Say again. We should have done that man. Yeah well I'm part of the as a BMFA member I don't
[427.2] AndyRC: need to do it anyways but if I wasn't then I definitely think I think to an extent that's
[435.04] AndyRC: going to happen anyways people are going to say. Absolutely. I get that you know I think that's
[441.44] AndyRC: going to happen just you know people people who are really serious about the hobby are a member
[448.48] AndyRC: of either FPV UK or BMFA anyways and anyone else that isn't isn't either probably not even going
[457.36] AndyRC: to know about it although it was on the news wasn't it the other day I believe but I only know that
[462.16] Curry: because you told me I don't watch the news. For reasons of clarity we should suggest that
[469.28] Curry: listening to Andy RC does not represent legal advice about whether or whether or not you should
[473.44] AndyRC: ignore the law if it applies to you. I'm not saying ignore that no it's not like ignoring the law is
[480.0] AndyRC: it's just ignoring what you know they're they're telling you to do. Andy RC he told me in good
[486.96] Jack: confidence that he's going to re-release a cover of NWIS. Instead of F the police it's F the CAA.
[497.04] Curry: Oh there's two minutes syllables it's going to be F the CAA.
[501.36] AndyRC: I didn't say that although I have to say every time I check my voicemail
[505.52] AndyRC: there's some sort of rap of Jack trying to write the song for me. Can you buy any of that?
[513.92] Tony: Don't know you do not want to hear it. Please play some of that Andy or at least send it to me later.
[519.68] Jack: I tried to record a rendition of Celine Dion. No Shakira my hips don't lie and his
[531.28] Jack: mailboxes fall like the other day I called it. Yeah that's how long and it's his mailboxes
[538.08] AndyRC: fall. I filled his mailbox up with songs that I sing. What's funny is my phone's broke
[545.76] AndyRC: so sometimes people will phone and it won't say that someone's phoned me or
[553.04] AndyRC: and it won't say that they've left a message until I reboot the phone.
[557.12] AndyRC: Well it does that when Jack calls as well.
[562.8] AndyRC: It does it with everyone it does it with Lee. Hey I need a new phone but
[567.6] Jack: too expensive man. Too busy buying all the new DJI HD products I know.
[573.92] Jack: Yeah well that's true I did do that. Yeah you little you little druggy. There was actually
[582.16] Jack: Mondo FPV said if I join FPV UK I've not got to take the test but I still need to register
[590.0] AndyRC: at Frank sorry at Andy RC. Mmm a winky face. Is that a question if I join FPV UK which I
[603.74] AndyRC: believe he has done because I spoke to him in the week. I've not got to take the test
[609.34] AndyRC: but still need to still need register. Oh okay right yeah just register in general.
[617.34] AndyRC: Is that a question or is he educating us? I don't know whether it's a statement or not.
[622.86] Curry: That's not true is it if you if you join FPV UK at the moment you don't have to register and
[628.54] Curry: come 20 to whatever the January they might send any details for you I don't know.
[634.38] Tony: Brilliant. Mr Fruity Cakes says Jack's hair is doing the full gene wilder today.
[643.18] Jack: Yep. This is Jack's hair on crack. This is what he's smoking we should explain.
[651.34] Jack: Jack on crack. See the thing is Frank I appreciate your efforts to try and
[658.62] Jack: you know protect us all by not starting the show until we finish talking about crack but
[663.18] Andy: they'll bring it up anyway. We should just clarify that. I didn't say crack it was into.
[673.5] AndyRC: I joined this and you said I'm on my crack pipe is what you said. Yeah but we wasn't live then.
[679.9] AndyRC: Yeah but but it so we should clarify that it's not a crack pipe it's just a funny in joke that
[686.14] Curry: we've got it's just the one of those vapes. You couldn't get crack it's just heroin it was cheaper.
[693.66] Jack: Chrissie with the sensible question who's getting the new fat shots none of us.
[698.54] AndyRC: Definitely not me. Yeah because our names are not painless 360. I'll be saving up for them is my
[704.7] Curry: answer to that. Are you going to get the transparent edition again or are you going to get the regular?
[710.46] Jack: I'm sure they said that to him on purpose. They were like oh we've got an order here from ADRC.
[716.94] Jack: What's in the bin? Well we got these really thin ones.
[723.82] Jack: I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah they're like you know kicking your fat shots down the
[730.3] AndyRC: down into shipping. It's like prick. Which is which is funny because you guys used to accuse me of
[738.22] AndyRC: working for them and now because like I'm worst enemy number one. Yeah but now you can have the
[744.22] Jack: emacs are all a bit vindictive about it. Oh Rob Thompson and FPV I have some on the way. Bloody
[750.54] Jack: hell. Oh Jerry Squires in the uh in the chat. I think you're stealing my job. It doesn't surprise
[757.42] AndyRC: me that everyone find them because I think they finally come up with a goggle that everybody wants
[763.26] AndyRC: like genuinely it seems. From the from what people are saying you don't know until you've
[768.3] AndyRC: got them in that in your hands. So but that's why I said I wasn't gonna get them at first and then
[774.86] AndyRC: I was like got nothing else going on. I'll have to save up for them. So but what hopefully by the
[782.14] AndyRC: time I've got enough money to buy them that because there's surely going to be issues when
[788.94] AndyRC: the first HDOs came out they had that palace shoe didn't they with the line line across the bottom
[795.5] AndyRC: and they had to be sent off and have new hardware. So hopefully I'm hoping by the time I buy them
[803.18] AndyRC: all of the transparent moles have been sorted out and all of the problems have been sorted out.
[812.86] AndyRC: So I do hope to get some and if bite I was thinking like if bite frost is released
[818.78] AndyRC: properly eventually I would probably get that too you know.
[825.5] AndyRC: I'm just just a fan of FPV you know so if you if you if you're a fan of it then you
[832.62] AndyRC: I just ain't got 500 solstice. Well I haven't but you know I guess it's not gonna it's not gonna
[840.3] Tony: help me. All my drones have not got very good cameras so you know the clarity would be a bit
[847.1] AndyRC: better but it won't be brilliant. Yeah I guess from my perspective it's not it's not going to
[853.98] AndyRC: benefit me. I've got the HDOs but then I thought well you know maybe there's something I can find
[860.78] AndyRC: that no one else can I don't know sometimes I do which is why I get in trouble. I like this
[867.18] Curry: is the weakest excuse ever for spending 500 quid Andy it's like I didn't really have anything else
[871.98] Curry: going on so I'm not saying it's going to be soon. It's not like I need a new phone.
[880.06] AndyRC: Yeah but you can't buy it the phone that I need it doesn't it doesn't cost 500 quid unfortunately
[886.62] Curry: it costs a grand. I don't know your current one doesn't work at all I'm sure look here's one
[893.26] Curry: yeah yeah yeah this is cheap at 60 quid is it really yeah that was that was Sophie's first phone
[903.34] Curry: and that's your main phone. No it's just sat here with my with my pile of old phones that I don't
[909.82] AndyRC: use anymore. Well is there a binary chance of Pixel XL3 in there because I'd take one of those.
[916.7] Curry: No that's not in the list. We are not an Android household. Oh yes of course yes you're you're
[924.54] Jack: despite going to get to put some money in the swear jar for saying Android in your house.
[934.3] Curry: You're allowed to say if it's in conjunction with taking the piss out of someone who's got an
[938.78] Jack: Android phone that's allowed. Chats still have not moved on from arguing about the the the goggles
[946.14] Jack: you're at. What they arguing about those two? Ben Sweetly says still rocking box goggles lol.
[953.1] Jack: I'm going to save up for the DGA v2 says day story. I'll tell you one good thing about the
[959.02] Curry: HDO2s is when I get offered for people with HDOs would you like to look through my goggles I could
[965.74] Curry: just see blurriness because I'm sure sighted at least with the HDO2s I should be able to move the
[971.5] Curry: diopters all the way to minus six and decide if it's any good or not. I'm screwed though because
[976.78] Curry: I've got stick of it in my left eye. Well I have to but I'm figuring it's like it's better than
[982.7] AndyRC: not being able to do it. Is this you admitting you're buying some as well then Wayne? No it's me
[988.54] Curry: admitting that I'm prepared to look for a pair of them. If I can meet up with Rob one day who's not
[994.7] Curry: too far away from me when he gets his. Oh my god Rob's thoughts on. Yes Rob's look if anything comes
[1002.14] Curry: out MTV then Rob will buy it that that's how it works. How what he's must have won the lottery is
[1009.98] Curry: he like a big CEO of a company or something? He has his own business and he buys stuff
[1020.54] Curry: sometimes in order to evaluate it as part of his business. That's how it works. Yeah I do that
[1031.68] AndyRC: which is which is why it's more difficult to justify a phone than a pair of FPV goggles.
[1037.28] Tony: Hello everyone just quick hi to everyone there. Who here
[1066.24] Curry: loves Lewis Rossman? I don't know who he is. Who's that dude again? I recognise the name.
[1072.24] Jack: The angry apple fixie man. I've seen a few of his bins. How about the right to repair?
[1081.6] Jack: I'm sure we're all a fan of that. Yes yes big fan right repair. And my penis is up right about now.
[1088.4] Jack: No nothing unusual there Jack. Yeah I know I'm not wearing any trousers.
[1098.08] AndyRC: Look at me vomiting in his mouth. More of a comment than anything else. So
[1105.76] AndyRC: seen as Android is banned in your house and probably the word Windows not Linux probably
[1112.24] Jack: I imagine that. Do you know what the funny thing about Linux lately
[1117.04] Jack: is you know Lioness Tech Tips on his server rack he's got one of those you know those fish
[1126.32] Jack: the Darwin fish you know like some people have Darwin written on it other people Jesus you know
[1135.68] Jack: it's not one that says Linux in it which is quite funny. He's quite genius. So Wayne this
[1143.92] AndyRC: this FPV sim that is powered by Unity it's not going to be available on Android devices.
[1150.96] Jack: Oh are you guys talking about are you putting it out there? Well I wasn't.
[1156.32] Jack: I didn't know where to leak. Oh NDA next time. I've not actually said anything now have I?
[1167.36] Curry: And he just ignores NDAs anyway he'll just put the video on thanks.
[1171.6] AndyRC: Yeah I've got the I've got the clip that Wayne sent me yeah I did that I'm good at doing that.
[1179.84] Curry: Well based on the fact that I've built it for Windows it could be built for Android however
[1185.12] Curry: I don't know about I don't know if I like the control system because you'd have to use thumbs
[1191.04] Curry: against screens. I hate that personally. I need my sort of tactile stick to understand what I'm
[1197.92] AndyRC: doing. I'm just smudging it around and I don't know. Heart props is like that it's really yeah
[1202.4] AndyRC: it's not a good way to learn really. Does that become a thing with um Crossfire yet because
[1208.64] Frank: that's like got like Bluetooth in the module for it to connect to your phone and stuff can you use
[1212.64] Frank: it as a like you've been interfaced device for your phone yet? Is that a thing? Well well you could
[1218.8] AndyRC: probably you could probably use like the trainer the Bluetooth trainer function in F R sky transmitters
[1225.92] AndyRC: to do something similar I think. I don't I don't think it works as that function I don't know.
[1232.24] AndyRC: Were we not supposed to talk about this? I didn't know I did not know. Yeah to be fair I hadn't told
[1237.68] Curry: you not to. For people who are watching I've been working on a a course. No tell the story first.
[1244.96] Curry: Which story? Why have you done this? Because I was bored and messing around.
[1250.56] Jack: No your friends can't land properly. Throw them under the bus.
[1258.48] Jack: Start from the story time with Daddy everyone. It's the new segment. Here we go. So current sims
[1265.68] Curry: and I look at things like Velocidrone and Liftoff are very very good at and very sort of
[1276.51] Curry: gamification in terms of having very high spec good graphics and stuff. And I thought that
[1283.87] Curry: I don't think sims are very good at teaching you the basics of flying. I take off somewhere come
[1290.03] Curry: back and land in the same spot because they all just like race around until you crash and then
[1295.07] Curry: hit the R key to start again. So I thought I'd try developing something that would teach the basics
[1301.15] Curry: of flying. Which I have basically built a very early prototype where you can fly around and stuff.
[1308.91] Curry: And lately today bouncing to buildings and make them fly away and stuff. And that's about it.
[1314.99] Curry: But it's not it's not ready to be talked about yet. If you're a patron of mine you had the chance to
[1321.23] Curry: download it and try it out for yourself. Or if you're one of these guys down at the bottom of
[1324.91] Curry: the screen in those windows you also had a chance. I didn't. You did. I sent it in in our group chat.
[1332.03] Jack: Oh bollocks.
[1340.29] AndyRC: Just to confirm though you were okay talking about it. I didn't know you weren't. I just
[1345.01] AndyRC: thought it was like a side project thing. I just have to talk about it because it's not really ready to
[1351.89] Curry: talk about much yet. It's not in any sort of state where I'd
[1355.09] Curry: release it to the great wide people and say. You might as well tell them about the building physics.
[1360.53] Curry: We just were having this interesting. I sent a video to Frank because I thought it was interesting.
[1366.85] Curry: I was messing around with different things. One of which was about building very high mountains
[1372.93] Curry: and looking at how you can build sort of tracks to sort of dive down and do like a really long
[1380.53] Curry: mountain run. One of the things I also did was add buildings because I thought oh if you've got
[1385.97] Curry: a cityscape it gives the ability to do building dives and stuff. I neglected to add a mass to a
[1393.33] Curry: building. What happened is I flew along and flew into the building and the building span away like
[1399.17] Curry: the TARDIS flying through space. It was amazing. Then you could also fly around and knock the
[1404.37] Curry: building about like you were having a game in which you could knock something to each other with
[1408.53] Curry: a team of quads. We're going backwards in time aren't we? Which gave me an idea to do that.
[1416.13] Curry: But with buildings and quads. We're probably not buildings in the eventual if this happens but
[1422.05] AndyRC: there you go. You could be onto something there because yeah with simulators and stuff
[1430.45] AndyRC: that is really all you can do but it reminds me of a mod. I think it's either a mod
[1436.45] AndyRC: or something in Grand Theft Auto 5 and I think it's called the Chaos Mod where basically all of
[1442.37] AndyRC: the cars just jump. I can't remember if you shoot one. The car just jumps up into the air but it
[1451.41] AndyRC: causes all the other cars to jump up into the air and the idea is you have to dodge the cars
[1457.81] AndyRC: basically. It could be like dodge the buildings in FPV. The buildings are just flying everywhere
[1465.65] AndyRC: you've got to try and not hit them or something. I've wanted for years to be able to do some kind of
[1476.93] Frank: team sport kind of thing with FPV. When we did the LDO drone games back in July August 2016
[1486.93] Frank: I think it must have been 2016. I think it was 2016 yeah. I said Rocket League for Quads which
[1496.93] Curry: was our secret thing we suggested it was. They cracked our code. We should do that again Frank
[1504.29] Frank: some kind of LDO game thing. Yeah well back then. I mean to be honest that was a prototype for
[1513.49] Frank: the air show so I knew what kind of things I was up against but it was good fun. It would be good
[1521.81] Frank: to do that again but one of the things that I brought along and sort of loaded up in the
[1525.97] Frank: back of the car. I went around to Toys R Us and bought one of every kind of ball and just brought
[1532.77] Frank: them along and dumped them on the floor somewhere and said whoever can make one of those move.
[1538.21] Frank: And I don't think anyone managed to make any of them move with their quad.
[1543.57] AndyRC: That might be an expensive task to move one of those balls. Maybe you need lighter balls
[1557.25] Frank: or something. Yeah oh man. I've seen people fly through balloons and just pop them that seems
[1568.77] Frank: less fun. Yeah that's quite good. I was thinking a bit like have you seen people play a bicycle
[1576.37] Frank: polo and they've got like they just sort of knock around the ball on the floor while they're on
[1581.49] Frank: like a BMX kind of thing. These are the sort of people that play Quidditch. Yeah they're exactly
[1588.05] Frank: those sort of people but yeah I was thinking maybe we sort of like hang a hammer or a
[1595.33] Frank: song kind of thing from the bottom of the quad and you wrapped it up around the ball.
[1599.25] Frank: Because originally I was thinking of it more like a kind of blow football thing but it doesn't really
[1603.25] AndyRC: work. You'd have to be able to fly line of sight for that though so that's that's pretty much all
[1607.97] Curry: of it. I didn't want to hear about a game which would involve teamwork. You'd have one quad with
[1615.41] Curry: a hook uh suspended from underneath that you had to pick something up with but of course you wouldn't
[1620.45] Curry: be able to see because you'd be a race quad and it'd be straight ahead so you'd have to have your
[1624.05] Curry: team member in order to when to go and when to pick up and stuff. That sounds good yeah but I
[1634.13] AndyRC: was actually asking a genuine question though Wayne because I've seen what you've been doing
[1640.21] AndyRC: and it's impressive and so um maybe you haven't thought about it but you're about to say that
[1647.49] AndyRC: because it's Windows based then does that mean that it has to be Android based if it was to
[1654.05] Curry: make it? Yes I do dislike Windows incredibly and Android however because I'm working in an
[1661.73] Curry: engine which is cross-platform it means I've done builds for Mac and Windows and I could do
[1666.61] Curry: a build for Android and iOS but I just don't think that I'm not sure that the mobile version of a
[1672.29] Curry: game because of the control method yes yes is particularly useful. That's a good call I would
[1678.05] AndyRC: say I was just wondering on that yeah which platforms it could potentially if it actually
[1683.09] AndyRC: if it actually became anything because it's just something that you're just it's a hobby at the
[1687.41] Curry: moment isn't it? Something will get released at some point and it will be free
[1694.69] Curry: and I've got some ideas but obviously it's harder to finish them off all the way but the basics is
[1704.29] Curry: there it's just a case of getting some stuff tuned and getting the right sort of courses in and
[1711.73] Curry: if I want to do tutorials in there and stuff that's a whole other thing but it'll happen.
[1718.45] Frank: Can I ask is the conversation pausing for anyone else occasionally? Yes yes it is it is completely
[1726.85] AndyRC: I thought it was just me but it everyone stops at set me like yeah but is everybody is it
[1734.61] AndyRC: finishing people it's finishing people's sentences for me it's just pausing I don't know if that's
[1741.09] AndyRC: going through to the live feed but that's happening to me yeah it's holding for me as well
[1745.73] Frank: it will be going through to the live feed as well because that's essentially what I'm watching
[1750.53] Frank: I might need a new terrain people in the internet
[1754.77] Tony: why do you need a new terrace town? The buttons have pushed through again I thought you fixed it
[1761.17] Tony: no I've put the new ones in um I've put the new ones in today and I've had to hot glue one end in
[1769.09] Tony: because you know the bits that you put the buttons on yeah they're just not there anymore
[1775.01] Tony: no they never were man it was um you clip them on this tiny little bit sort of stick up
[1783.07] Jack: up at the eye down and then you put them yeah new size ca man like hot glue I'm going to do
[1789.71] Tony: I think you can buy them as a spare part can't you yeah both of them as a spare part but in my
[1794.99] Tony: tranis the big sort of stick up in size that you put your ring over have gone they're just
[1802.35] Tony: well you can buy a new case for it that would be cheaper but yes you have to take it all apart
[1811.79] Jack: I'll just go down to jacks and say has anyone got any of those spare buttons bad because they're
[1816.91] Jack: a nightmare to get out like does anyone know that that they're slightly longer aren't they
[1822.51] Jack: because I've I've removed I've managed to remove one from an old
[1826.27] Jack: tranis case but it's not easy because you know they're they're slightly um
[1834.51] Jack: yeah I can I can I can pull a sick cloud mr free cakes um
[1841.39] Jack: it's going to play if I clawed in
[1844.99] Tony: so why are you smoking this with now all of a sudden
[1851.39] Tony: um stops me coughing that's irony stopping until he goes to bed and yeah stops when
[1860.83] AndyRC: do you mean coughing as in like the cough took off or coughing as in the thing that
[1867.79] Jack: when you're dead they put you in nice uh because I think it's doing both yeah probably it's just
[1877.31] Jack: some crack man I'll be feeling under the weather stop saying that because like literally people
[1882.99] Tony: are gonna think you're real and it's not crack you don't vape crack do you know you can I mean
[1891.71] Frank: no I don't know you wouldn't know that though would you Jack so you're not I thought you could
[1897.31] Jack: I've tried
[1901.15] AndyRC: I was a lie need to get yourself down to Tegrity farm
[1907.07] AndyRC: why is that rehab with the no it's the it's the south park reference
[1911.71] AndyRC: yeah Randy's bought uh a cook like weed is legal in America
[1919.63] Curry: but there was a brilliant episode there was the I would call it the anti-vegan episode
[1926.59] Andy: in which oh that was so it was so anti-vegan in which they went into Burger King and had an
[1932.67] Curry: impossibly burger it's this is plant-based it was like eats it's this tastes like the people eat
[1936.99] Curry: this yeah they do amazing and then he came up with the idea of doing weed burgers and they're
[1942.99] Curry: eating it it's like this tastes like keep going this really tastes like well this is amazing
[1948.19] Curry: and they've just spliced out just on the floor it's this the weed that is
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[1986.83] Tony: about what you're doing on Tuesday Tony and what's uh what's all involved i'm going away
[1991.55] Tony: i don't even know if i'm going to make it uh next Thursday on the show or not because
[1996.43] Tony: going to is that when you're going to texas i'm leaving for texas Wednesday morning of next week
[2002.27] Curry: to their axe class thing with zoe yeah i don't know i want to see tony try and get a vegan meal
[2008.99] Tony: in texas it's going to be a make oh well i will live stream that on youtube or facebook or something
[2016.99] Jack: he's going to come back he's going to be like i've eaten half a cow i feel dirty he's going to be
[2022.35] Jack: like outside my house like massive beard he's going to be like demanding i like hose him down
[2027.95] Jack: and whip him and tell him he's a naughty boy and he's going to be like i can't i can't i can't
[2034.19] Jack: kick the cheese habit i know what it feels like to be a cat the sound of the shape of a cat
[2049.94] Jack: you don't know what you're gonna do you hand anything to tony and he'll give it a go
[2057.07] Tony: look at that spacey blade of my penis
[2060.43] Tony: spacey blade of those you can't hand that to me
[2065.47] AndyRC: what's this jumper ask andy i see about that what do you mean well we covered that it's time to
[2072.19] Jack: jump a ship damn auto correct as if like telling tony to get the jumper by jumper and i i got the
[2082.19] Jack: new and i got the new tyrannis and i showed it the other week and then you were like i think
[2089.79] Jack: joshua bardwell is wrong like you always do because you and joshua bardwell like sword fighting and no
[2096.43] AndyRC: man we're cool i'm a i'm a mod on his life stream dude yeah i know yeah yeah you sent me
[2103.55] AndyRC: you sent me like you sent me a little clip where uh he said he hated me and all because uh
[2109.63] AndyRC: apparently i'm a better beta flight tuner than him i'm only on three inch that's the most you can
[2116.67] Jack: handle is that what he said i can't remember no he didn't say that no that is probably all
[2122.83] Jack: i'm i'm doing a michael whatever his name is what's his name michael rollins i'm i'm
[2128.51] Jack: i'm staring the ship pot um yeah oh man he got in uh after do we actually want to talk about that
[2136.75] AndyRC: i don't think we do well upstairs after our show music it went down frank it went downhill
[2145.31] AndyRC: for him massively after our show so uh you're welcome michael yeah no i really
[2152.67] Frank: ldo flaming career since 2016 he's all right he had proof done for the last three interviews
[2158.83] AndyRC: that's i want to what i've got those i haven't watched those yet but yeah yeah yeah jack how
[2164.99] AndyRC: did he get proof he probably woke up at like i am four in the morning for him or something yeah
[2172.99] Frank: or well he does um drone and sundry on tuesday nights yeah at the same time
[2180.43] Jack: he'll basically do any show that's not us fair play he does a lot of stuff i think that's called
[2188.42] AndyRC: being sensible he does a lot of stuff about the uk though doesn't he he does a lot of stuff about
[2193.62] Jack: the bmf a and stuff only because it's the hot topic right about now with the legislations
[2200.26] AndyRC: yeah but still be interesting to have him on the show i know i'd love to i'd love to
[2206.42] AndyRC: he's not scared he's not scared of any come on have you seen have you seen him in those uh
[2213.38] Jack: you might question his sexuality and then leave his wife
[2216.26] Jack: he's just a speculation well well he's never coming out now is he no no exactly well yeah
[2225.46] AndyRC: unless he wants to defend his sexuality yeah no i haven't watched those i i should uh i should
[2231.14] Jack: go and watch them but yeah a lot of drama out there um but you like you were saying jumper fvv
[2243.3] Jack: you don't think it's going to be supported for long basically well i well i'm going to find out
[2249.38] AndyRC: um because um i've i've got a t16 so uh i can throw those questions at them you know is it
[2258.58] AndyRC: because everyone's saying jump ship to jumper but my my my sort of um question to that is
[2268.74] AndyRC: what what happens if all of a sudden like because fr sky have dominated for such a long time
[2275.62] AndyRC: that pretty much every receiver that everybody has got is an fr sky receiver but what if it
[2283.3] AndyRC: gets to the point where you know obviously you need new receivers for new models you crash
[2288.26] AndyRC: you know stuff breaks you have to buy new stuff what happens if you buy an xm plus and it turns
[2295.7] AndyRC: up with access on it and uh it like it can't be reversed or whatever and you you're stuck with
[2302.98] AndyRC: this jumper that doesn't support access so what i want to get from jumper is whether they're going
[2308.9] AndyRC: to be supporting this access protocol and also if um because as far as i'm aware that that the
[2318.82] AndyRC: original issue that fr sky had with jumper is that they copied the hardware well the hardware
[2325.86] AndyRC: that they copied was the old hardware that doesn't support access and even fr sky are are having to
[2334.5] AndyRC: with the q7 and the horse bring out new hardware that you buy and you fit into your transmitter
[2341.78] AndyRC: so that it's supported so my worry with with uh big influencers saying everybody go and get the
[2349.46] AndyRC: jumper is that it'll come to a certain date and it might could be i'm not saying this is what i
[2354.98] AndyRC: this is the answer i need to find out oh you know none of the fr sky stuff supported where'd you go
[2362.34] Curry: to after that isn't the point with jumpers that you can use any receiver with it because it's
[2367.7] Curry: already got it pretty much binds to any module so you can just put something else if you want to
[2373.14] Curry: yeah but what would you move to though i don't know do you think it's likely though that free
[2377.54] Curry: sky is going to be like oh no we're only doing access from now on because don't forget there's
[2381.06] Curry: loads of people out there with different types of tyrannuses that can't use access well that's
[2390.82] Frank: the fr sky because then it means that everyone is buying new radios exactly yeah that's going to
[2395.86] Curry: definitely shoot them in the foot because if they're like ha ha you have to buy a new radio
[2399.06] Curry: now we're going to be like well we're going to choose a different provider thank you so much
[2402.66] AndyRC: yeah but who knows because there's none out there that that's my worry with with everybody
[2408.5] AndyRC: jumping to jumper um but i i don't have that confirmed so once i have that confirmed
[2414.98] AndyRC: but but if it does turn out that that jump i mean that there's another reason fr sky have upgraded
[2422.26] AndyRC: their um their hardware and that's because the old hardware wasn't good enough for what we're
[2429.3] AndyRC: asking for like jack alluded to the fact that on his tyrannis lewis scripts kept crashing all of
[2436.26] AndyRC: your time and uh that's because it doesn't really have enough memory so they've upgraded the
[2442.98] AndyRC: the board to have more more processing and more uh like flash memory and so my other worry would
[2452.5] AndyRC: be what if open tx gets to a point where um it can't run on these jumper models uh a bit like
[2460.98] AndyRC: owning an f1 board you know a nays f1 board no longer supported by beta flight you know
[2469.94] AndyRC: uh it's that it's that kind of worry that i have by saying by saying i'm i'm jumping over to
[2476.5] AndyRC: jumper well yeah but are you on borrowed time because it you know open tx will get to a certain
[2483.46] AndyRC: size where nothing will run because you need more processing power that's that's what we need
[2492.66] Curry: producing like d16 receivers then somebody else will just produce compatible ones to fill that
[2497.38] Curry: hole because there'd be so many people that want them because as soon as she starts saying open tx
[2503.22] Curry: is now too big to run on these radios or lewis scripts that are too big to run on these radios
[2507.38] Curry: it means that every user of the original x9d or qx7 or x light etc are also screwed and so it's
[2514.9] Curry: it's going to be a case of like well how much do we need this stuff or how much effort are people
[2519.3] Curry: going to try and put into making it fit and it's because they're in fork with open tx right now so
[2524.74] Curry: they can cater it very very much that our own needs at least um yeah question right you can't
[2534.16] Jack: tell me that you know i'm going to do something slightly controversial i'm going to agree with
[2538.32] Jack: chris e here um chris e says andy just flash it with d16 surely you can buy the little usb stick
[2547.28] Jack: and flash it with the free sky sport update uh what flat flasher no what i'm saying is what if
[2554.72] AndyRC: ff our sky discontinue the xm plus and come out with a completely different receiver it is just
[2562.16] AndyRC: access and that so and death and because because ff our sky's um goal with access is to basically
[2571.36] AndyRC: be the 2.4 gigahertz version of what crossfire is so you know the the wireless uh um what what
[2580.72] AndyRC: you call it you know you don't have to over the air that's what i was looking for over the air
[2586.96] AndyRC: update it's basically trying to be the 2.4 gigahertz version of crossfire and what if it gets to a
[2591.92] AndyRC: point where it is actually really decent um i mean i when i when i first started the dji stuff
[2600.16] AndyRC: i was reliably using the r9 stuff and i was actually quite surprised you know so they are
[2607.2] AndyRC: making steps that they they just make the mistake of releasing stuff they before the software is
[2615.2] AndyRC: ready but i i just worry for people going screw f our sky i'll get jumper and then they'll be
[2623.44] AndyRC: they'll have all of these transmitters that don't you know there's no receiver out there or other
[2630.08] AndyRC: than like like curry says someone will just do like make a d16 receiver but you still got the
[2638.32] AndyRC: problem of uh luis scripts crashing and stuff like that so you're having that now jack aren't
[2644.48] AndyRC: you yeah yeah that's why you changed yeah so that's so if luis scripts get more advanced
[2653.28] AndyRC: you know for stuff like even like crossfire then you know the i i heard that the tbs tango 2
[2661.68] AndyRC: has come out like wasn't didn't steal the live stream and stingy had got the tango 2 and stuff
[2667.2] AndyRC: i imagine that's got upgraded processor and it's faster than the previous one so that it can
[2674.16] AndyRC: align with what tbs has got planned when it comes yeah and they've got a separate module for the
[2680.88] Jack: access yeah so you can plug it into the back or something um i don't know actually i don't i
[2687.52] Jack: don't think so no i think sky are being pretty good about providing update boards like or new
[2696.48] Jack: because i've got the 16 soldering module and stuff i mean admittedly they're they're they're
[2702.56] Jack: a bit mean in our days but surely they'll be but then again you still run into the problem with
[2708.72] Jack: those chips being insufficient yeah that's why i worry people yeah that was that that was the
[2718.88] AndyRC: problem so the um the the memory take it so i don't use any audio on my old x9d so i didn't
[2728.48] AndyRC: have any problems with luis but it turns out that if you use a lot of audio commands so you flick a
[2733.68] AndyRC: switch and it says a sound it's using up this the same memory and processing as luis scripts
[2740.32] AndyRC: so if you're running a lot of those two at the same time then you'll get a luis script
[2746.32] AndyRC: error like it flashes up like memory error or something like that so i i'm not trying to be on
[2754.24] AndyRC: fr sky side i'm just worried i always worry about people where people are spending their cash
[2760.64] AndyRC: and for big influencers to say this is my main transmitter i'm like have you
[2766.48] AndyRC: do you have all the facts before you make a big statement like that because a lot of people could
[2771.52] AndyRC: end up you know with with the stuff that have no use you know maybe in a year's time you know
[2781.28] AndyRC: and fr sky's hardware is there now but i don't know the answer so i'm gonna find out
[2787.68] Tony: aries just said that the new uh dji air unit update just unlocked 200 and 500 milliwatt output
[2795.2] AndyRC: is that for this is that for the okay or no no well it's well you if you unlock it you could
[2802.72] Jack: but it'd be illegal yeah right and for these we're all it's a bit of a weird unsettling time for
[2812.0] Jack: all of us really in the fbv world because it's got to a point where you first join the hobby
[2818.24] Jack: you get all the you get all your stuff and that and now we're coming to a time of
[2823.04] Jack: a real uncertainty where you know it's like oh is there or isn't there gonna be you know
[2831.76] Jack: hdfbv gonna be a thing you know we've got new fat shark goggles with like no diopter and
[2838.48] Jack: you know like you know the standards do have to change after a while you know we do have to like
[2845.2] Jack: keep up with it really and we demand like you say we're demanding more and more stuff things
[2849.76] AndyRC: from our stuff yeah exactly so that's my worry with jumper is that if it is just copied old
[2856.88] AndyRC: hardware then it's not going to be up to scratch when and and this makes me think isn't it strange
[2864.4] AndyRC: that open tx just was like it was closed tx and all of a sudden there yeah fine jumper go go and
[2872.48] AndyRC: make a full cover it will help you out is that because they know that eventually it's it's not
[2879.68] AndyRC: you know it's going to run out of memory and not in f4 sky it's going to be you know everyone's
[2885.12] AndyRC: going to have to move over i don't want that to be the case so um i need to find out would you go
[2891.52] AndyRC: for it the moment myself yeah um well like i said i don't have all the information if it turns out
[2900.72] AndyRC: that jumper uh are going to be able to support access and they haven't just copied the old
[2909.36] AndyRC: horror sport and it has got the you know the potential for extra processing power and it's
[2916.24] AndyRC: not going to crap out but anytime i see uh the thing that made me think this is um everybody's
[2923.04] AndyRC: been hyping these and then you see in the comments is louis grit working yet is louis grit working
[2930.56] AndyRC: yet i don't see any answers to that and it's louis i don't use louis grit but i know it's
[2936.56] AndyRC: important especially if you're using crossfire and stuff like that you know and is it crashing
[2942.48] AndyRC: is it you know it's it's stuff like that so and until i've got those answers from the t16
[2951.52] AndyRC: it's difficult to recommend uh any transmit i mean i'm i'm sticking with the i've got the
[2958.88] AndyRC: tyrannis 2019 uh and i'm sticking with that for now but could i recommend it well it's it's
[2966.48] AndyRC: expensive but at the same time you know it's it's got all of the hardware for whatever i don't think
[2974.72] Curry: there's any way that jumper's going to be able to support access because freesky has been very keen
[2981.68] Curry: of trying to keep it their own so there's going to be some sort of secret key exchange how do you
[2987.52] AndyRC: know that though have you spoken to anybody though i haven't i'm this is this is the thing
[2993.04] Curry: it's speculation isn't it it is speculation they they they've talked about it being highly
[2997.84] Curry: encrypted and that means to me that there's going to be some sort of secret key exchange
[3002.08] Curry: so these aren't going to be public things that people are going to be able to implement it's
[3006.08] Curry: going to be some some encrypted stuff within the module and the receiver that's going to talk to
[3012.16] Curry: each other and sort of handshake that way well that cracks it is probably not going to what is
[3019.6] AndyRC: what is certain is that all of the fr sky transmitters so the that that haven't been
[3027.12] AndyRC: discontinued so like the q7 the horace need new boards to support access so if that's the case
[3035.76] AndyRC: then you would say the jumper t16 uh would need that new board so maybe maybe they can
[3043.2] AndyRC: do that but i don't know the answer i'm going to find these answers out is what i'm saying
[3048.16] Curry: but it's it's kind of an interesting thing because in some ways you're like saying well
[3052.56] Curry: yeah but you won't be able to support access but it's kind of like okay freeze it feels to me that
[3057.2] Curry: freeze guy are trying to force access upon us as opposed to people saying oh we really need a new
[3062.24] AndyRC: protocol and a new type of receiver but if you if you look at both at their side they're trying
[3069.68] AndyRC: to make things better because it is a pain in the ass trying to buy into an fr sky uh receiver it's
[3076.24] AndyRC: a pain in the ass knowing what even version is on that receiver no god yeah you know you have to
[3083.36] Curry: press the bloody button before it's like to automatically bind to receiver press the bind
[3088.48] Curry: button to put it in this special mode where you can then press something and auto bind to it
[3093.6] Jack: mr uh like uh mr i i'm not on uh lbt
[3104.16] Jack: like listen to foretalk um i remember when that first come out it was it and it still is
[3112.56] Jack: pandemonium it is just absolute hell on earth trying to deal with that you know sometimes
[3121.36] Jack: things will bind some things won't lie you know and i've you know even now i've upgraded to
[3128.32] Jack: yeah i've upgraded to the you know the new uh you know the new tyrannis now i can't use my tiny rope
[3136.16] AndyRC: yay well you can because you can buy a module but you'd have to buy that module that was a
[3142.56] AndyRC: legality thing though i mean technically you shouldn't be flying that anyways because it
[3147.68] AndyRC: doesn't you know it's not a member of the lbt community d8 mode so you know you shouldn't be
[3154.72] Curry: using that anyways they're guilty of hate crimes somehow these d8 get rid of them yeah no i'm
[3162.0] Jack: i'm a full supporter of the lbt community yep same here um yeah i know tony i'll convert you
[3175.97] Jack: on that anyway you're my wife there's nothing you can do you're gay i can get a divorce you bitch
[3183.09] Jack: you'll have to do id if you're going to get remarried but um by juke i i'm just looking at it
[3190.13] Jack: i the reason why i upgraded was because i wanted luis scripts to work and for now
[3195.57] Jack: they're the things that are the main things that we're all using and i use crossfire anyway so as
[3201.81] Jack: long as that module fits in the back i'm golden and i don't hopefully they won't stop supporting
[3209.97] Jack: the tyrannis because everyone's got one you know there'll always be some sort of legacy for it
[3215.81] Jack: and we i think we all know that something else will just come along at some point
[3220.29] Curry: true fact talking of weird modules i i hadn't really used this uh new r9 thing i have as
[3226.61] Curry: anybody told it it's got a a built-in spectrum analyzer which can go yeah i i 100 megahertz
[3233.65] Curry: if any of you watch my channel i went i did a detailed video about it but anyway i don't know
[3238.29] Curry: you looked at the new one yet andy i thought you were ignoring it for now i i don't know i did a
[3243.25] AndyRC: quick video actually i i went over it with the x light pro so that was that's going back some
[3251.01] AndyRC: time ago but that's got it also yeah it's got a it depends which one you get as well but yeah
[3256.93] AndyRC: band scanner and a spectrum analyzer it's it's a gimmicky thing though you can't you don't know
[3262.53] AndyRC: it's not something that i use really the idea is that you get to your location and see if you've
[3267.01] AndyRC: got any interference um it's quite unlikely that 868 is going to be taken up but at least you can
[3272.93] Curry: see the gsm phone band is quite active on the 900 frequency range yeah exactly what an OLED on
[3281.73] Curry: the back of it is it's no no in the screen so it talks apparently talks to the module and then
[3287.81] AndyRC: puts it up on the screen this little yeah so what i did was i got um i i got i got my x9d
[3295.09] AndyRC: to turn the arm and then put it close to the antenna of the x light pro and you could see
[3302.69] AndyRC: the frequency popping you know you could see the it moving around and stuff so yeah it's it's for
[3309.25] AndyRC: that thing uh so yeah you've got um what is it you've got a band scat there's is it like a band
[3315.81] AndyRC: there's two isn't there what are the two i forgot i only saw one hang on oh well on some of them
[3321.97] AndyRC: there are two tools i can't remember what the other one is i was only messing with this today
[3326.13] Curry: because i wanted to put an r9 on that quad that we mentioned previously that you're all going to
[3333.49] AndyRC: die down here i employ you i love how i love how um wane's been defending jumper this whole time
[3346.99] AndyRC: and then he picks up the tyrannis brand new one i don't i don't think there's any
[3354.91] Curry: it's difficult to say this is what's going to happen isn't it yeah that's what that's why i'm
[3359.87] AndyRC: not prepared to say as an influencer everybody going by the jumper this is the one and it's like
[3365.31] AndyRC: no you need to have a little you need to have a few more facts it's fun yeah i mean for any of our
[3370.75] Jack: audio listeners um tarry kitten has held up the transmitter and it's showing a lovely graph um
[3378.11] Jack: right because i've noticed we're on that like last five minutes or so frank a bit of an update on
[3387.07] Jack: i'm just trying to look someone asked a question about um about the the regs and that
[3396.43] Frank: and i can't point uh okay brief brief refresher yeah but just briefly uh so the system is live
[3408.99] Frank: now it wasn't live when it should be but it is live now uh you must have some kind of arrangement
[3418.35] Frank: sorted out by the end by the 30th um of november um yeah 30th of november you have to have
[3428.19] Frank: something sorted out so either uh you need to pay nine pounds and do the test on uh the drone
[3437.63] Frank: and model aircraft registration and education system or you need to uh be a member of either
[3446.51] Frank: fpv uk bmfa or any other of the other uk model flying associations um in which case you can
[3454.75] Frank: defer everything till uh the end of january if you print out a bit of paper that says you are
[3461.23] Frank: you're allowed to do so uh then in january uh you either need to have your um your test sorted out
[3475.23] Frank: um or you need to do the test online again and either you can either pay the money directly
[3483.63] Frank: or you can get your model flying association to take the money for you it's pretty much the
[3488.67] AndyRC: situation so you'll still have to do the test even if you're part of the model flying association
[3495.63] Frank: one of those but no you do their tests so you either have to do one of the um your model flying
[3504.75] Frank: associations tests any of them um or you have to do the one online but if you've already got if
[3513.23] AndyRC: you've already done got an a or b sir if you've then that counts then that counts um chris e asks
[3522.03] Jack: frank any news on the bmfa online registration compensation certificate uh i haven't heard
[3529.87] Frank: anything uh i'm sure they've got their people working on it but um frank also um what what
[3540.59] Jack: happens if you don't register and you fail to register uh because the weather's crap in the
[3546.11] Jack: uk and you want to register later on and you're caught with a drone not flying it but in your house
[3556.51] Jack: you have to remove all the motors
[3561.63] Frank: you have to remove remove all the motors and put them down your trousers um and keep them
[3568.67] Frank: there for three months that's the rules uh no it's the don't if you're not flying anything you
[3575.23] AndyRC: don't have to worry about it is it is it just me or because frank was saying it i was about to
[3580.43] AndyRC: get all my motors out just like when frank says it usually means it's right i was like well frank
[3586.59] Curry: said it get all the motors yeah there's plenty on there i'm wondering if it's possible to invent
[3592.51] Curry: a new type of free flight because this isn't covered by the rules just take your quad down
[3596.35] Curry: the local park and just start throwing it around like it was a boomerang and i think you're you're
[3602.59] Frank: okay then it's a quad-shaped boomerang it's not an actual exactly free flight yeah why not um
[3614.06] Frank: really you're only breaking the rules if you're flying it without the appropriate paperwork in
[3619.58] AndyRC: place so you don't have to worry about it having it what if a what if a dog ate my printed paint
[3628.54] Tony: whilst i was flying
[3638.7] AndyRC: that's what i wanted to ask actually what what so so for the people who aren't a member of the BMFA
[3644.22] AndyRC: or FPV UK and have to register they have to are they given something that they have to put on
[3649.66] Frank: their quad and will we have to put anything on our quad come january yes well what what will i
[3657.34] AndyRC: have to put on the quad your identification number well it'll be the BMFA's identification
[3663.1] Frank: no no it will be yours so this will be you will be given your that if you're if you're not a member
[3670.54] Frank: of the associations and you're just going through the entire system you get given two numbers one is
[3676.06] Frank: because you're flying it and the other one is because you're responsible for it being flown
[3681.66] Frank: or something i'm not sure they even really have worked out what this really means but
[3687.34] Frank: there you go and it's that second one that you pay for and it's that second one that needs to be
[3692.94] Jack: on all your aircraft yeah and the first one you have to go to the CAA concentration camps and
[3699.26] Tony: they tattoo it on you that's not a good idea saying like just just take a control line bit
[3706.22] Tony: with you and just say it's snapped off or something no it doesn't take the head control
[3712.78] Curry: just turn the radio off and say not Michael i ain't flying it
[3717.02] Tony: if you've got a control line you don't need to have any
[3721.58] Frank: the control line exemption specifically like says like you can't just put a tether on it you can't
[3727.58] Frank: just put a tether on a multi-roader it doesn't count that's not control line it snapped off and
[3733.34] Curry: it's flying now you're trying to tell me they are disallowing control line motor rotors
[3741.1] AndyRC: yes you can't do free you can't do control i'm multi-rotors Wayne that's multi-rotor-ish
[3749.82] Curry: i'm trying to invent a new sport here and i need you know people to go with it and believe in it
[3754.86] Curry: when we're doing this with a quad on the end of it well you're gonna have to start a movement you
[3761.26] AndyRC: know like stand outside a Heathrow you know with signs and stuff say you know let that be
[3770.86] Curry: multi-rotor control line more than one motor for control line i wish the police had a sense of
[3780.06] Jack: humor and liked me because i'd love to go down to like Tony's house with a few of them and get them
[3785.5] Jack: to like arrest him for Gatwick and be like we've watched this show and you know they said you've
[3791.42] Jack: done Gatwick and you're there and we're taking you in and like what's this and their point of the
[3796.54] Jack: massive like x-class on the wall and they like handcuff him and i throw him and they chuck him
[3801.74] Jack: in the back of the van and when he gets in the back of the van i'm sat in there and he's like you
[3809.42] Jack: put loads of beeps in editor and animal noises and cats fighting
[3816.14] Jack: there's a video i'd watch yeah i think that would be so funny i'm gonna have to get off my wall and
[3822.14] Tony: pack it down saturday i was okay so i'm kind of worried about that the craziest thing what what
[3831.42] Jack: oh he ain't gonna tell me what what what airline are you flying from Gatwick
[3838.3] Jack: no going
[3841.9] Jack: oh god god anonymous tip off so funny man they will be like right up your butthole
[3849.58] Curry: um there's one of those extension rebellion guys they're gonna get a quad on board a plane
[3854.78] Tony: oh mate yeah oh my word it's not exactly small either is it like literally got to
[3861.58] Jack: he's trying to hide it in plain sight in a plane in a fight um frank can you have a word with them
[3869.1] Jack: and see whether they'll agree to a personalized plate system yeah so that tony can have a number
[3875.66] Jack: you can have all fives as this one yeah so you have a word with jack also wants tony is gay
[3885.26] Jack: for his no it's t zero n y one five g a y could be g4 y couldn't it yeah g4 y
[3898.46] AndyRC: what my question was there must be some people who do control line where the plane's got
[3904.62] Jack: two motors on it or or not right lift now like you're gonna have to get the whiteboard out frank
[3913.42] Curry: what do you mean for lift we're not doing it we're angling the quad that way so it's in fact
[3921.95] Curry: a four rotor plane going round and round really quickly that's what i was saying
[3929.47] Frank: what was the fossil stuff one with the with the arms the other way oh the show tony you should
[3936.43] Frank: know your fossil stuff no not the shoe the the why did you call it a show it looked like a show
[3944.35] Frank: not the shoe the other one the one that was like like a like a vegetable cutter thing
[3950.03] Frank: with the wire around the outside oh yes i know he won the revo five was it there you go i mean
[3958.11] Frank: that those are obviously aerofoils they count as left right it's a plane is anyone trying yeah
[3965.31] Tony: actually so you put um aerofoils on x-cost didn't she i don't know how it went could you put the
[3971.47] Tony: the number on your battery is that where i'm putting all my number that's why i suggested
[3976.91] AndyRC: if you if you throw a battery though if you throw a battery though yeah that's the thing isn't it
[3982.03] Frank: it's it's got to be uh i think i don't quite know this i think it's going to be at least three
[3988.27] Frank: millimeters tall and it's got to be easily readable on the ground without special tools
[3995.79] Jack: so it's on the battery that sounds fine that's it don't try all fpv says don't say anything tony
[4003.95] AndyRC: i'm not going to mate no it's so funny don't say anything about what oh about the gap yeah okay
[4010.35] AndyRC: anyway that'd be the best place to put it on your battery because then it doesn't matter
[4014.59] Jack: talking thanks talking
[4019.95] Tony: i'm putting my numbers on the berry that means you as well you know you know you get those little um
[4027.31] Frank: uh cap gun caps yes just just like put that in front of it as well you know if you need to
[4036.19] AndyRC: project oh i see what you mean right yeah you start hearing nina nina bang where's my battery
[4050.83] Tony: who's getting what policeman's going to come into the middle of a bloody field imagine
[4055.87] Tony: thinking jack and they're getting grown out of it man they're everywhere like gene one
[4061.31] Curry: well the thing is for all of us that go off and find fields there's also people that
[4066.75] Curry: haven't got access and they're in like public parks and more sort of public sort of viewed areas
[4072.51] Curry: where you know the great members of the public might take uh an opinion that what they're doing
[4078.19] AndyRC: is wrong and call the old bill yeah yeah so anyway that's always been the case though so nothing's
[4086.19] AndyRC: going to change other than you've now got a number to your name robins fbv flight says it
[4091.95] Tony: specifically says it has to be on the main body of the aircraft well my battery is going to the main
[4099.71] Frank: if you wait the battery versus the rest of it frank i got a bit of homework for you
[4104.35] Jack: like just i was having an argument with someone
[4106.83] Jack: um can i can i ask you who as a politician signs the whole drone order thing it's through
[4123.15] Jack: do you know what the drone bill who's who what politician was it Theresa May it definitely
[4135.15] Frank: wasn't tony blair true um who ruled tony blair out well one of them was a private members bill
[4145.41] Jack: wasn't it but this is something else at the moment so it was the cao he wasn't it
[4151.81] Frank: well yeah so this is an amendment to the air navigation order um this isn't the drone bill
[4160.45] Frank: the drone bill is still to come they were going to debate it but because the government the
[4166.29] Frank: parliament's been turned off and turned back on again again it's not going to happen
[4173.89] Frank: so that'll be put back a bit but the july 2020 thing that's already been written into law
[4181.25] Frank: who's fault's that long list your fault uh it's not it's not down to any one person
[4189.73] Jack: yeah i think so it's it's all committee okay no thank you frank you're trying to target someone
[4197.73] AndyRC: jack i did not say that this person goes missing tomorrow then we'll know where everyone find out
[4208.21] Jack: where jack is jack's dealer um his mom's house also in the woods um i just got that that is such
[4221.97] Jack: an old reference wow oh my god um yeah anyway look let's leave it there we're we're you got ten
[4230.21] Jack: jack wants names usually it's frank it's not really me uh batteries
[4234.61] Jack: fuel tank and without batteries paper white true um tonight you've been joined by andrew slash frank
[4240.53] Jack: that's made this all possible thank you i love you uh don robinson is a hero and a legend
[4247.17] Jack: and uh i'm sure he will fix this because he's got a lot of time
[4250.85] Jack: thinking they're one-handed yeah um would you join by the lovely andy rc
[4257.01] Jack: down with jumper tv um the wonderful games development uh curry kitten house goodbye
[4265.25] Jack: and the weedy beedy one my just tony bonjour it's hell of a star she got though man i think you
[4271.57] Jack: should just leave it like that just have have a handle barber stash
[4277.81] Tony: i'm starting should i turn it at the end as well yeah do it no do it well steel start doing that
[4283.73] Jack: so you could take that over all yours now the other way and i've been cracking jack thank you
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