=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 222 === Title: LDO 222 - Tony's Back! Recorded: 2019-11-28 Hosts: Andy, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 2,088 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu4lx22hvpQ); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/721099792-letsdroneout-ldo-222-tonys-back.mp3) ===================================== [0.0] AndyRC: Hello and you're listening to the best drone podcast out there. Let's drone out. [4.48] AndyRC: We would like to thank all of our Patreons including [8.24] AndyRC: Mikey Dredd as well as Art Faulkner and [13.2] Jack: That's it. We've only got two out of the four twelve dollar Patreons [19.36] Jack: who would help pay for the editing for this train wreck of a show. [24.24] Jack: If you want to get your name read out please donate [28.0] Jack: to patreon.com forward slash let's drone out. [63.44] Tony: Right start the show Jack who's like literally [70.24] Jack: because we're incompetent and you're watching and listening to the best [75.76] Jack: UK drone podcast because everyone else can't be asked to make one [80.48] Jack: all hasn't got round to it yet and copied our awful idea and we barely do a good job at all [88.56] Jack: hosted and presented and the only reason it's gone for four years. Andrew slash Frank. [94.24] Frank: Hello. [96.08] Jack: Oh fantastic energy calm down there. [100.96] AndyRC: Jack's definitely on the crack pipe. He's a livewire. [104.48] AndyRC: He's slowing his words and he's shouting and he's all over the place. [109.76] Jack: Delicious crack speaking. [114.48] Jack: Speaking about disappointing my parents. [117.04] Jack: Curry Kitten. How are you doing tonight? [120.8] Curry: Hello I'm okay. Not bad. [125.04] Curry: Everyone. [129.2] Jack: Can we get a disclaimer before the next person is introduced? [133.52] Curry: Yes we can. The Andy RC legal disclaimer. [137.12] Curry: Any views expressed by any of the guests on this show are personal and may not reflect the views [142.16] Curry: of the host or any participant of the show. Thank you. [145.76] Jack: And the reason we have that disclaimer Andy RC. [149.84] AndyRC: Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself. [155.2] Jack: And which Prince was a wrong one. [158.24] AndyRC: Oh Prince Albert. Oh no that's the one with the ring through through it. [164.72] Jack: We're still working on it. [167.68] Jack: Yep you can't prosecute him if he's an idiot. [172.88] Jack: Speaking of idiots. The character from Brokeback Mountain. [178.72] Jack: And the reason the show is not suitable for kids. [183.12] Tony: Evening y'all. [184.24] AndyRC: Tony I just cannot seem to quit you. [188.24] AndyRC: You only get back. [189.52] AndyRC: I've never watched it. [191.04] AndyRC: Well you must you must have because you know the quote. [194.96] AndyRC: What quote? I just said evening y'all. [197.44] AndyRC: Well it's a quote from Brokeback Mountain and it's one of my favorite movies. [203.28] AndyRC: And that is a fantastic moment and then it's a moving moment. [208.48] AndyRC: I just can't seem to quit you Tony. [210.8] Tony: Okay I'm gonna watch it later. [213.84] Tony: Do I need to have tissues prepared? [219.84] AndyRC: Depends on your orientation. [222.64] AndyRC: I mean you know it's quite sad but you know. [227.68] Jack: And the reason why Tony's gay and he's my wife. [231.68] Jack: I'm bright until I fly. [232.88] Jack: Hello happy Thursday everyone. [235.2] Curry: So what's the big what's the guy to show it. [236.96] Curry: Shall we shall we ask Tony about his magnificent trip to Texas. [240.88] Curry: Where he may have picked up a souvenir. [244.4] AndyRC: I literally love my hat. [246.88] AndyRC: When you say that I instantly just think STD when you say souvenir. [252.72] Curry: We've got donated 10. [254.72] Tony: I enjoyed watching back the shows that I missed. [260.4] Tony: Doing the tests and things like that was well funny. [263.52] Tony: It's fun isn't it when you're not on the show watching it back. [266.8] Tony: Oh yeah I was cracking up. [269.84] Tony: I didn't watch the YouTube stuff. [271.68] Tony: I watched the edited one on Soundkirk. [276.0] Tony: Well sorry I listened to it. [279.2] Tony: I was literally wetting myself. [281.28] AndyRC: So they cut all of the nonsense out of it. [284.72] Tony: You could tell when people are swearing. [286.56] Tony: I think Curry getting one on swearing last week. [290.64] Jack: Yeah you need to do a lot of swearing in a short period to prove that this isn't for kids Tony. [300.4] Tony: I can do that. [301.52] Jack: Yeah so yeah Philly boots for the next. [305.68] AndyRC: Well you can't because you've tipped the thing so you'll get banned if you've tipped it. [310.0] Jack: No Frank's in charge. [311.44] Jack: There's no way he would have ticked that box. [313.44] Jack: All right fair enough. [315.12] Jack: Go ahead Dan. [315.6] Tony: You put the illnesses up for it. [317.44] Tony: I don't mind. [319.92] AndyRC: I want you to do swear words but in the style of bottom when they do swear words. [325.92] Tony: I'm joking but that flip little she from the bridey all along. [333.44] AndyRC: Yeah no no they say I can swear in one of them and then it's bloody you know and [340.96] AndyRC: crap and like really lame ones that just aren't swear words. [345.52] Tony: I try to do it in the style of bottom. [348.32] Tony: Eddie or Richie? [350.8] Tony: Either. [351.76] Tony: Which who's your favorite? [353.52] Tony: Right I'm tucking my thingy into my trousers. [359.12] Tony: Like Richie. [362.24] Tony: I'm having a bit of time now. [364.8] AndyRC: Yeah Richie's my favorite I think when it comes to that because he's just so pathetic. [368.96] AndyRC: Bloody right bloody right yeah. [373.92] Tony: Okay I'm ready to swear. [379.14] Tony: Go on then. [380.98] Tony: Oh I'm waiting for Jack to say stuff and then I swear about it. [384.66] Curry: Jack's muted himself. [385.94] Curry: Jack's just disappeared so we can swear about that. [388.74] Curry: Oh he's muted. [389.78] Curry: Cake sucker. [391.14] AndyRC: Oh you mean you want you want to have swear at each other is what you want to do to have an argument. [398.02] AndyRC: Get on with it. [399.22] AndyRC: Let's have a Tony a proper Tony and Jack argument. [402.74] AndyRC: There hasn't been one. [405.7] Curry: I haven't seen him enough to be annoyed by him. [409.86] Curry: It's not hard to get Tony to swear. [411.54] Curry: He's like getting in the zone for a good 10 minutes now. [414.1] Curry: He's like yeah I'm gonna say bum soon. [418.02] AndyRC: Jack what what do you hate about Tony the most? [422.1] Jack: The fact that he breathes it out. [424.42] Jack: Um. [429.22] Frank: Why are you both thinking? [431.62] Frank: Let's distract you both. [433.54] Frank: Tony where were you last week? [436.5] Tony: I was in Texas y'all. [439.7] Tony: Had a ranch enjoying myself when it was lovely weather and I was in t-shirt all week. [444.98] Tony: And I come back to this misery. [446.82] Jack: Getting ridden like the little doggy he is. [450.82] Tony: Oh god Jack if only. [454.34] Tony: That's just to turn you on by the way. [459.38] AndyRC: Did you part your little bag with the things in that [462.98] AndyRC: I caught with my tiny whoop on my video? [466.9] AndyRC: You should see how Tony packs his bag. [468.9] AndyRC: He like so meticulous but in a little quick. [473.14] Tony: Did Tony pull your fingers at the airport? [476.18] Tony: Oh you run the wrong airport you idiot. [478.34] Tony: I flew from Heathrow and you run Gatwick. [480.26] Tony: No. [482.18] Tony: I tried. [484.02] Tony: Did you really do that? [486.82] Tony: Me and Martin did get stopped for our batteries. [490.18] Tony: Like literally every time we put we went through the TSA or whatever we. [495.62] Tony: So we flew to New York first and then as soon as we got to New York they were like beep beep. [501.46] Tony: And then our bags went off to the side and we both looked at each other and went. [506.58] Tony: Here we go. [507.54] Tony: Can I have a look in your bag and yeah. [509.78] Tony: Just because all the lipos we had basically. [513.14] Tony: Because I had the two lipos for the X-class and then all the lipos for [521.46] Tony: generally just flying my five inch drones around. [526.82] Jack: And you got a capacity, milliamp capacity. [530.02] Tony: Milliamp power per battery is. [532.26] Tony: I thought it was in watt hours total or something. [534.66] Tony: Yeah it is and I was under but of course if you're looking for an X-ray machine and there's [541.94] Tony: lots of wires you know and screwdrivers and things like that. [546.5] Tony: They're like pull you up. [547.62] Tony: You're not allowed screwdrivers. [550.58] Jack: Do they let you on the plane with screwdrivers? [553.94] Jack: I wouldn't let you on a plane with a spoon. [555.94] Tony: I couldn't hold it. [558.34] Tony: I put a small in my case. [563.78] Tony: It was just all the wires and the batteries man. [566.34] Tony: They just literally pulled us over every time. [568.42] AndyRC: Was it an X-class meter turn or was it a red? [571.22] Tony: Exposed imitation all from everyone around the world to go and fly and race. [577.62] Tony: Who was the team there? [581.78] Tony: They're probably me and Martin. [583.38] Jack: What is that? [585.86] Tony: No, there wasn't a team. [589.06] Tony: It was very friendly, very fun. [590.58] Tony: It was really good but. [592.66] Tony: Who was the poorest team? [594.1] Tony: P-A-S is not fast enough. [595.86] Tony: I can't, I can't really say, I don't want to say. [602.66] Tony: Was it you again? [603.54] Curry: To you because you only had eight S's. [605.7] Curry: Everybody else had 12. [607.14] Tony: People were flying 12 and 14 S. [609.54] Tony: It was ridiculous man. [611.3] Tony: My flying was on point but I just wasn't fast enough. [615.06] Jack: Because you were going as fast as James and I. [618.18] Tony: And as fast as I could and they were going faster. [621.06] Tony: That was the problem but the Australian drone army team [625.38] Tony: literally had 15 sponsors, three rigs each. [635.22] Tony: They were doing fine. [637.06] Tony: They deserve their spots but I mean. [640.9] Tony: Yeah, we needed to go faster basically that was all. [644.1] Tony: So, eight S was just not fast enough. [648.18] Tony: Worth going. [648.66] Frank: Have you actually raced your X-class before competitively? [651.3] Tony: No, that was the first time. [653.54] Tony: 10 out of 26. [657.54] Curry: Is the racing any different? [658.82] Curry: Is it still gates or is it more going round flags and stuff? [661.62] Tony: I had some gates. [663.14] Tony: There's only two. [663.86] Curry: Bigger gates though. [665.38] Tony: They are bigger yeah. [666.42] Tony: I mean I've flown through normal five inch gates and I don't find them a problem. [672.18] Tony: And these gates were massive so it was easy for me. [675.38] Tony: But it was just I wasn't, I just couldn't go fast enough. [679.46] Tony: That was my problem. [680.74] AndyRC: So, the question is are you building a 14S rig next? [686.26] AndyRC: Yeah, already on the cards. [688.74] Tony: I just can't turn up now. [691.14] Tony: I will not fly a 12 or 14S. [694.02] Tony: But then. [694.98] Curry: So, are the courses, sorry to interrupt, [697.54] Curry: are the courses more sort of wide open and flowy rather than more technical? [700.74] Curry: Did you not watch this video, Wayne? [703.62] Curry: I haven't watched it yet. [704.74] Curry: I've been out all day doing stuff and bits and pieces in the last day as well. [709.22] Curry: No, I haven't. [710.98] Curry: I'll go back and watch. [711.62] Curry: But you mean it's been raining constantly for two days? [715.46] Curry: Yeah, I've been doing other stuff. [718.02] Curry: I've been taking the dog to the vet and I had to go to school. [721.38] Jack: Oh, good guy. [722.66] Jack: Yeah, but I've been working on my game and receiving product. [725.94] Curry: I haven't done anything on the game because I've been working on, [729.94] Curry: I had to walk to the field today, right? [732.26] Curry: The field to get an in and out. [736.9] Curry: I flew two lipos and said actually this camera's, [739.78] Curry: that's no good. [740.66] Curry: I had to walk an hour back and their test goes because I'm picking up stuff. [744.5] Curry: It's just a nightmare. [745.86] Curry: It's like the first world problems I have to deal with here are just unattainable. [751.46] AndyRC: The camera was broke, so I know not to, well, get one. [756.98] Curry: I converted the, you found it okay, actually, I converted the Tyro 79. [763.46] Curry: Oh, yeah. [764.42] Curry: Over to use the Rush FPV stack, which is a really nice stack. [768.5] Curry: But that camera was tearing. [770.42] Curry: So I was like, this is no good. [772.42] Curry: It tears on the ISD. [773.78] Curry: So it's like, what voltage am I? [775.06] Curry: I don't know because one bit's over there and the other's gone over here. [778.1] Curry: So it was rubbish in light handing as well. [780.26] Curry: So I'm going to swap that over. [782.58] Curry: The VTX was amazing though. [784.18] Curry: 25 milliwatts goes completely to the end of the range I could get on the field. [790.18] Curry: I was like, I've run out of field now. [791.7] AndyRC: That's because it outputs 50 and not 25. [794.5] AndyRC: I've tested it. [795.38] AndyRC: It's a good VTX though. [797.86] AndyRC: It's a great VTX, I got a couple of them. [800.74] AndyRC: Yeah. [800.98] AndyRC: One of my favorites. [802.26] Curry: I like it. [802.9] Curry: It's very clean. [804.74] AndyRC: Yeah. [805.06] AndyRC: Some people prefer it over the old unified, don't they? [808.82] Curry: I certainly do. [809.78] Curry: So sorry, Tony. [810.58] Curry: I haven't watched. [811.78] Curry: And for the benefit of those people listening, [814.02] Curry: please describe what the courses are like. [815.78] Curry: Are they super windy technical? [817.7] Curry: Like I don't want five inch course. [818.9] Curry: Are they more flowy and long? [821.3] Tony: Flowy and long because there's a lot of expense going around the track at any one time. [827.86] Tony: A lot of people crash, to be fair. [829.7] Tony: There's a lot of crashes and a lot of people rebuilding. [832.98] Tony: But people in America have learned how to crash their X-Class [840.02] Tony: and literally rebuild them within probably 20 minutes. [845.54] Tony: So they've set up bits. [849.46] Tony: If you crash, what fail? [850.9] Tony: Like the arms will bend and then snap off. [853.86] Tony: And then the bits will come out. [856.42] Tony: And then you just literally put an arm back in and plug it back together. [860.34] AndyRC: You did that though Tony, didn't you? [861.94] AndyRC: Mini air show. [862.82] AndyRC: You had a pretty big crash and had it go. [865.54] Tony: That was all forearms and that was all repaired within an hour. [870.98] AndyRC: That's cool. [871.7] AndyRC: Because you can't do that with it. [873.14] Tony: Did you reach your video tone? [876.02] Tony: A couple of days ago. [877.86] Tony: I've done a week. [878.58] Tony: I've done one while I was there, which was like a sunset flight, [882.26] Tony: which was just like the course before Friday, [885.86] Tony: which was before the Saturday, which was the racing. [889.86] Jack: Which one am I supposed to be watching? [891.54] Jack: Am I even subscribed to you? [893.46] Tony: Can I just hate you? [896.5] Tony: Do you remember? [897.3] Tony: I've got you pooing on drone cam. [902.18] Jack: I know. [902.82] Tony: I wish you didn't. [904.82] Jack: You're so weird. [906.9] Jack: I can't believe it. [907.94] Jack: There's a law against that. [909.94] Tony: No, there's not. [910.66] Tony: You were in the wild. [912.66] Tony: I went in the wild. [918.26] Jack: Filming your friend, defecating. [921.06] Jack: I've got an illness and you think it's funny. [924.42] Jack: You're wrong. [925.54] Jack: There's something wrong with you. [927.54] Jack: Well, we know that. [928.42] Jack: That's why you're on the show. [929.86] Tony: I remember the discussion with the people who were there. [932.82] Tony: Jack's gone to have a, shall I fly my drone over there [936.1] Tony: before I even finished the question. [940.58] Tony: They both said, yes, go. [942.9] Tony: Because he would do it to you, was the answer. [948.98] Jack: I have never done that to you. [952.66] Jack: I never disturb Tony. [954.66] Jack: I've never done that to you there. [957.38] Jack: You do all the time. [958.9] Jack: You find it a country crap. [961.22] Jack: That's how I found out about them. [963.22] Tony: Exactly, a country crap. [964.82] Jack: Socially acceptable. [967.14] Tony: How are you when you're kayaking or really desperate? [970.34] Tony: What are you doing in your kayak? [971.3] Jack: I'm always really desperate. [972.82] Jack: You're not in the kayak. [973.94] Jack: I took your life. [977.58] Frank: Really wants to know, Tony, did anyone drop in your kayak? [981.26] Jack: My neighbours. [984.54] Curry: That's better than us. [988.54] Jack: That video's going out tomorrow. [991.1] Jack: So subscribe to Tony. [997.5] Frank: Quinn wanted to know, Tony, did anyone drop into the pond? [1002.86] Frank: There we go. [1003.34] Tony: Yes, unfortunately, this was Mr. Fossil himself's first ever race. [1009.66] Tony: It happened to be eighth class. [1011.34] Tony: He'd done one lap and then come through the finish gates and hit one of the poles. [1017.82] Tony: And we literally had to fly around a lake. [1020.86] Tony: It was right around the lake and then Mr. Fossil ended up in a drink, [1026.7] Tony: which was quite unfortunate. [1028.06] Tony: But he went and picked it up and rolled up his jeans, went in there and got it out. [1032.62] Tony: And it was still beeping when he was pulling it out. [1034.78] Tony: So it was all good. [1037.9] Tony: He didn't want to fly it again. [1039.1] Tony: So he packed it away and waited until he got home and dried it and it all worked again. [1047.58] Tony: He's still good to go. [1049.5] Tony: So my friends and looking forward to next time we get invited. [1056.14] AndyRC: Has Texas become progressive and has vegan restaurants on every corner now then? [1062.3] AndyRC: It was, they had the impossible burger in Burger King. [1065.98] Tony: So I had a couple of them. [1067.18] Tony: So you had that every day? [1069.34] Tony: Walmart and bought a lot of stuff. [1071.66] Tony: Guns. [1072.78] Tony: And now I like bagels. [1075.34] Tony: Like, yeah, I thought bagels are the best. [1080.86] Tony: Like some rotten piece of bread that they wrapped up and went, [1084.06] Tony: here, let's buy these, you dumb Americans. [1086.78] Tony: But they're quite odd. [1089.1] Jack: Jewish delicacy, man. [1091.42] Curry: I'll tell you a tale with bagels. [1092.94] Curry: And they're boiled. [1095.74] Curry: Is when I first see them, I'm like, oh, donuts. [1098.94] Curry: And then you're disappointed because it's not a donut. [1101.5] Curry: It's a bagel. [1104.54] Tony: No, they had pumpkin spice, and it was really, really nice. [1108.22] Tony: I just put butter on it and then bit of peanut butter and then ate them. [1112.78] Tony: I didn't cook them or anything. [1113.9] Tony: You're supposed to cook them. [1115.1] Tony: It's only having a fit. [1117.02] Tony: I can just see. [1119.98] Tony: I mean, you can use a bagel, man, isn't it? [1125.82] Curry: Bagel connoisseur. [1126.78] Curry: It's like talking to a wine guy saying, I like it out of the can the best. [1131.18] Jack: I'm sure he only visits me that often because he has bagel like cravings. [1142.14] AndyRC: I got sent a video and it was Jack making Frank watch Red Dwarf. [1148.54] AndyRC: What's the story there? [1149.9] AndyRC: What happened there? [1151.66] Jack: So if you joined us on the bonus podcast, [1157.18] Jack: there was a big argument when we all found out Frank hasn't and he's not a fan of Red Dwarf. [1166.94] AndyRC: Is he a fan now? [1168.7] Jack: No, I got I got two. [1171.66] Jack: I got two chuckles out of him. [1175.1] Jack: One of them was, you know, when Rimmer's, you know, [1179.1] Jack: darling and it's Rimmer's death day celebration and they're like, [1183.66] Jack: I baked him a cake and, you know, and Holly asked what, what, what, [1190.54] Jack: what's with the cake? [1191.9] Jack: And he goes, I baked it in the shape of a spanner. [1195.1] Jack: And he goes, ah, okay. [1197.74] Jack: He goes, I baked it spanner because he was a technician. [1201.1] Jack: You go and Holly goes, oh, so if he was a postman, [1205.42] Jack: you would have baked it in the shape of an envelope. [1208.22] Jack: And he goes, yeah, exactly. [1210.14] Jack: He goes, Gordon Bennett. [1211.98] Jack: I'm glad he's not a gynecologist. [1215.66] Jack: And that that was the first laugh I got out of Frank regards Red Dwarf. [1221.58] Jack: But he says, what did you say? [1223.74] Jack: Blackadder without the. [1225.74] Frank: No, I thought it was Baldrick in space. [1227.98] Frank: But it's just the problem is a lot of the references are very dated and I don't get them. [1234.38] Frank: And there's nothing. [1236.38] Curry: How can you not know who wants something expecting this amazing reaction [1241.26] Curry: because it's Red Dwarf and Frank's like, [1244.14] Curry: yeah, you should turn him. [1245.26] Curry: So normally ones that will always make jokes about phoning the talking clock. [1253.5] Frank: And I'm just like, what is that? [1260.22] AndyRC: You will always be able to do that. [1261.98] AndyRC: Yeah. [1262.14] AndyRC: I guess the problem is that it was based three million years in the future. [1266.38] AndyRC: They couldn't have predicted smartphones. [1270.06] AndyRC: There's a line in there, though, that always makes me laugh. [1273.82] AndyRC: And it's like, I think it's everybody. [1278.38] AndyRC: It's like everybody remembers the day that Cliff Richard got shot. [1286.38] AndyRC: He still hasn't been shot. [1289.02] AndyRC: Something else happened to him, but he didn't get shot. [1292.14] Jack: Frank identify as a millennial. [1296.3] AndyRC: Yeah, but apparently me and Jack are millennials. [1298.62] AndyRC: But I'm not. [1299.98] AndyRC: Oh, yeah, I am. [1300.62] AndyRC: You are. [1301.5] AndyRC: We're millennials. [1302.54] Tony: So I call you saying a bit different to that. [1306.14] Jack: Yeah, true. [1307.74] Jack: Please don't upload that video. [1312.06] Tony: Just remember, [1315.26] Jack: I am nice to you. [1320.14] Tony: It's ready to upload like literally just click a button Jack's ass. [1326.38] Curry: There was just going to break into Tony's house and steal the original stuff. [1329.74] Curry: This leverage he's got over you constantly. [1332.22] Tony: I've got two. [1333.34] Tony: There's two, though. [1336.06] Tony: I wish I had the privilege. [1338.46] Tony: I'd like so bad that I've hidden one on another laptop somewhere else in someone else's house [1345.26] Jack: ready to upload a remote location. [1348.3] AndyRC: Yeah. [1348.94] AndyRC: I wish I had the privilege of having the choice to upload them because I just get sent them randomly. [1356.06] AndyRC: I can't believe it. [1359.5] AndyRC: Sometimes it's not even Jack either. [1363.66] Jack: Yeah, that's the point. [1366.46] Jack: If you're a fan of my girlfriend, Lily, there's loads of talk about her on the bonus [1375.18] Jack: podcast and stuff. [1376.22] Tony: It's called possible pop pop. [1379.58] Tony: Well, that's well dyslexic. [1383.74] Tony: I've got card pod. [1389.74] Tony: What podcast is that, Jack? [1392.54] Jack: Is the bonus let thrown out podcast that we do once a month. [1397.74] Tony: Am I a patron because I haven't seen it. [1401.02] Jack: No, you can't because for legal reasons I said, I wish you were dead. [1408.46] Tony: You just said it again, though. [1410.22] Tony: He literally rings me up and says, I miss you. [1413.02] Tony: I'm going to record these. [1414.38] Tony: I'm going to record these. [1415.42] AndyRC: I do miss you. [1418.54] AndyRC: He rings me up. [1419.82] AndyRC: My phone doesn't go off and then I've got like a million voice messages and they all [1423.66] AndyRC: just say slut and then he hangs up. [1426.62] Jack: My favorite one is I went for lunch and I got out of work and then I rang him and he [1433.98] Jack: does an answer. [1434.54] Jack: I go, you and my boss walks around the corner and he's like, you're right. [1439.5] Jack: I was like, yeah. [1441.1] AndyRC: Good girlfriend issues with this relationship difficult. [1448.14] AndyRC: So where are you going for a date? [1450.78] AndyRC: Jack at the weekend. [1451.98] AndyRC: Where are you up to, man? [1454.14] Jack: It's Kevin Smith tomorrow. [1456.06] AndyRC: Oh, man. [1456.94] Jack: Yeah, that'll be cool. [1458.94] Jack: Yeah, I'm going. [1460.06] Jack: I'm holding the popcorn for David Powell. [1463.42] Jack: Jay and Charlotte Bob reboot. [1465.74] Jack: So I'm going to watch that where they've taken my favorite film and diversified it. [1471.02] Jack: Cool. [1474.3] Tony: Where are you going tomorrow? [1475.18] Tony: What is that tomorrow? [1477.5] Tony: Tomorrow evening or afternoon or what? [1479.34] Tony: It'd be an evening, wouldn't it? [1482.38] Jack: Do you want me to just share my location to everyone? [1487.34] Jack: Would you like me to film me poop as well? [1490.7] Curry: Whenever you do a poop on the live map, leave a little sort of brown. [1495.98] Curry: Emoji. [1497.26] Curry: I have a pin, but the pin must be brown. [1500.54] Tony: And it was like, it's never in a toilet. [1506.78] Tony: It'll be in a bush. [1508.46] AndyRC: The whole of the UK would just be brown on the map. [1513.66] Curry: Sorry, Jack. [1514.3] Curry: I know. [1514.78] Curry: I know. [1515.26] Curry: It's like you can't treat as the fertilizer. [1520.3] Curry: How about talking about drones? [1523.02] Curry: Let's do something this week. [1526.78] Jack: What are drones? [1527.66] Jack: I'm talking. [1528.78] Jack: Shut up. [1529.98] Jack: How are you? [1530.7] AndyRC: I went to see Palers 360 after last week's show. [1534.62] AndyRC: And I got to look at their HDO2s and they are amazing. [1539.74] AndyRC: They are really amazing. [1542.06] Curry: Yeah. [1542.54] Curry: You did. [1543.02] Curry: He called me up. [1544.22] Curry: He should have been filming you when you tried them on [1546.3] Curry: because you did a wow sort of moment, he said. [1550.54] AndyRC: Yeah. [1551.1] AndyRC: Yeah, I did. [1552.06] AndyRC: I did. [1552.54] AndyRC: Yeah, they were like. [1555.1] AndyRC: It was a wow moment comparing them to my HDOs, which I would have no problem saying [1564.62] AndyRC: deserve to be thrown in the bin compared to these HDO2s when it comes to the picture, [1571.1] AndyRC: the optics, the focal adjustment, just absolutely brilliant. [1577.82] Tony: Yeah, but even that good on a picture running analog stuff. [1584.7] AndyRC: It's not so much that. [1586.46] AndyRC: It's just the bigger field of view, the fitment on the face and the fact that [1592.86] AndyRC: I have to wear diopters and that one of my eyes is slightly different. [1597.82] AndyRC: But of course, I'd have to order prescription ones and stuff. [1603.1] AndyRC: But I also love the fact that they switch to 16 by 9. [1608.06] AndyRC: I think that that's the first fat shot goggle that goes from 4.3 to 16 by 9. [1613.34] Tony: You can switch them as well, that's cool. [1615.26] Tony: Yeah, so. [1617.02] Jack: What about the dominated V3s there, 16 by 9? [1620.94] Jack: Yeah, they don't switch. [1625.1] AndyRC: You know what as well, the field of view is like 46 degrees. [1631.58] AndyRC: And usually, I always said that 46 for compact goggles because they're the same size, [1639.34] AndyRC: 46 was the limit until you start getting blurriness. [1643.26] AndyRC: Not with these things, clear as a bar light. [1646.78] Tony: Do you have to look around the... [1649.02] Tony: Like when you put them on, do you have to look around? [1651.9] Tony: Do you know what I mean? [1652.62] Tony: Do you have to use your eyes? [1653.42] Curry: I think the key is when you do look around, don't move your head [1655.58] Curry: because that doesn't work the same. [1656.7] Tony: I mean, do you use your eyes to look around the screen? [1660.86] AndyRC: No, I'd say they're the perfect size. [1665.98] AndyRC: Yeah, so I've got them on pre-order and hopefully by the time they come out, [1671.66] AndyRC: I can afford them. [1673.1] AndyRC: Well, what are you going to fly them with? [1675.9] AndyRC: Everything. [1676.46] AndyRC: They'll be my main goggles. [1677.82] Tony: So they'll be my main goggles on analog stuff. [1681.1] AndyRC: Yep, definitely. [1682.62] AndyRC: Yeah, although what's interesting is... [1688.62] AndyRC: What's interesting is he also had the Ishin EV300Ds, [1693.74] AndyRC: which I was like, there's no way that they are going to be anywhere near close to the ratios. [1700.06] AndyRC: And you know what, they're pretty brilliant as well. [1704.46] AndyRC: In fact, I've got them here, but Lee did a video of them anyways. [1711.5] AndyRC: But they've also got the focal adjustment on. [1714.38] AndyRC: They've gone one further and they've actually put the... [1719.5] AndyRC: Is it called myoper figure? [1722.06] AndyRC: So like minus two, minus three or plus three. [1726.22] AndyRC: They've actually put the number on there. [1728.94] AndyRC: So you can sort of turn them to sort of get nowhere to start when it comes to focusing. [1738.46] Curry: How far did those ones go? [1739.66] Curry: Did it go all the way down like minus six or not that far? [1743.26] Curry: It goes to minus eight and plus three. [1746.78] AndyRC: Wow, that's pretty good. [1749.82] AndyRC: And you know what, it's not OLED, but the picture, you really can't tell. [1757.42] AndyRC: Lee could tell them apart, but I couldn't tell them apart. [1761.74] AndyRC: And they're 250 quid against 600 quid and they work with rapid fire. [1770.22] AndyRC: My review should be coming out in a couple of days. [1773.82] AndyRC: The only thing that I had with those is that there's more of a sweet spot. [1779.9] AndyRC: So with the fat sharks, you can kind of move the diopters around and you still get a clear picture. [1786.22] AndyRC: But with the EV300Ds, there's like a proper... [1790.46] AndyRC: There's like that sweet spot that a lot of goggles have. [1794.22] AndyRC: So that was a downside. [1798.14] AndyRC: But the picture of those is really good as well. [1800.7] AndyRC: I'm 42 degree field of view. [1803.42] AndyRC: Also does 16.9, 4.3, switching. [1807.5] AndyRC: I would say, and this really surprised me, but the old HDOs, [1812.94] AndyRC: the picture of the EV300Ds is better than the old HDOs. [1818.14] AndyRC: But you have to remember that old HDOs are two years old at this point. [1823.9] AndyRC: Our costs has come a very long way when it comes to these. [1828.54] Tony: It seems like literally half a year ago when the first one's come out. [1832.38] Jack: You've got a fair amount of questions, Andy, I'll see. [1838.86] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience. [1842.06] Frank: Downloaded and edited to make sense when it played audio only. [1845.58] Frank: Censored to please the iTunes people, hosted on the internet, [1848.54] Frank: forwarded through to your podcast provider, downloaded, playing on your device, [1852.22] Frank: and is now playing in your ears. [1854.06] Frank: All thanks to our Patreons. [1856.14] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits. [1859.58] Frank: Find out more at Patreon.com forward slash Let's Drone Out. [1871.98] Tony: A lot of wacky ways from Hong Kong. [1873.82] AndyRC: Do I still work for Fat Shark? [1875.98] AndyRC: No, Fat Shark is not like me. [1879.82] Jack: Andy says he's impressed. [1882.22] Jack: This is all good. [1883.02] Jack: Says Bill, which is not the question he asked earlier, but I can't find it. [1888.06] Jack: Bill asked you a question. [1890.7] Jack: Versus DJI. [1891.98] AndyRC: Well, this is excluding DJI because they have to sit at the top. [1903.26] AndyRC: But the thing is that they're doing something different as well. [1908.14] AndyRC: They're a bigger goggle. [1910.14] AndyRC: They are purely really for their own HD system. [1915.82] AndyRC: So if I were to rank the goggles that I've tried so far as in the top end, [1922.46] AndyRC: it'd be DJI, HDO2, EV300D, I never thought I'd say that. [1930.14] AndyRC: But I haven't tried the Orcas. [1933.66] AndyRC: However, the Orcas are like insane money. [1937.02] AndyRC: And I think I didn't get to watch Josh's video, [1941.42] AndyRC: but somebody told me that he preferred the HDO2s, I believe, [1948.94] AndyRC: compared to the Orcas. [1949.9] AndyRC: And I'm not surprised because it was. [1952.06] AndyRC: Yeah, I wish Payless would have been filming me as well because I really did go. [1956.78] AndyRC: Oh, wow. [1957.66] AndyRC: And I think the second word was right. [1960.86] AndyRC: These are on pre-order when I get home. [1963.02] Tony: Did you say bloody right? [1966.22] AndyRC: Bloody right. [1968.7] Jack: Wow. [1972.14] Jack: Silly question of the day, Ben Sweeney says, [1975.58] Jack: but is the UK65 still worth getting? [1979.5] AndyRC: Is the UK65 still worth getting? [1982.14] AndyRC: I would say yes, but swap the pins out to solid pins rather than open pins [1988.38] AndyRC: and your batteries will last. [1991.34] AndyRC: That's something I should have done. [1994.3] AndyRC: You run out of time because there's so many new products coming out. [1998.46] AndyRC: The UK65, yeah, great for the winter. [2001.98] AndyRC: But it goes through batteries, like God knows what, [2004.78] AndyRC: because it's using the little PH2 connectors, which is like a bottleneck. [2012.06] AndyRC: But if you buy solid pins for them, then your batteries will last longer. [2017.26] AndyRC: But I literally have no batteries for that model because they all puffed. [2023.5] AndyRC: Yeah, because as soon as you're armed, they drop to like three volts. [2026.94] AndyRC: You're like, I should be landing at this point. [2030.38] Tony: Has anyone been flying this week? [2031.98] Tony: It's been terrible. [2033.42] Tony: I was in a t-shirt all last week and I come back and it's dark at half-free [2037.66] Tony: and it's been drizzling for a week. [2041.18] Curry: Well, why am I two special batteries? [2043.26] Curry: I've only done indoor stuff. [2045.74] Tony: It's just been awful, isn't it? [2047.26] Tony: I've got no, like, I just don't even want to bother going out. [2052.54] Jack: Louis Stephan M asks, Andy, what is your all-time best micro FPV drone? [2059.26] AndyRC: Oh, micro. [2061.18] AndyRC: It depends what you mean on micro because micro starts from tiny and to me ends at three inch. [2068.78] Curry: My favorite three inch. [2070.38] Curry: I think micro is like, let's say 100 mil, but we'll let you go out to maybe 105. [2076.86] AndyRC: Hmm. [2077.74] Curry: Although it'd be useful to have the distinction between an indoor and an outdoor flying one, [2082.06] Curry: wouldn't it? [2083.02] Curry: This is the thing you see. [2084.38] AndyRC: Yeah, so I class micro going up to three inch and my favorite one of those is the diatone 369. [2096.7] AndyRC: Absolutely. [2097.98] AndyRC: It just destroys everything. [2101.9] AndyRC: Yeah, so that's my favorite. [2104.38] AndyRC: That's my favorite. [2105.66] AndyRC: So a bit pricey. [2108.14] AndyRC: Yeah, because there's so many classes. [2110.06] AndyRC: So my favorite cine whoop at the moment is the gap RC. [2119.34] AndyRC: What's it called cine pro 4k, although I've received the cine queen. [2123.9] AndyRC: I don't know if you've got that one. [2125.66] AndyRC: That one's a three inch one, though. [2127.34] AndyRC: So that one is doing something slightly different trying to be like the squirt, [2132.54] AndyRC: but with run cam hybrid, which I still haven't tried. [2137.02] AndyRC: The problem is, is I'm getting like two days of of no rain and then two weeks of rain. [2144.54] AndyRC: So been doing a lot of stuff indoors. [2148.94] AndyRC: So actually, when I went to visit Lee, he very kindly gave me every time I go visit Lee is like [2156.86] AndyRC: offloading stuff. [2159.98] AndyRC: Very kind. [2161.34] AndyRC: And I mentioned that I fly at this indoor sports hall and it's like, I've got just the thing. [2167.42] AndyRC: And it's a part. [2169.82] AndyRC: It's a park zone vapor. [2172.78] AndyRC: And it's a really slow flyer. [2175.26] AndyRC: Absolutely amazing thing. [2177.18] AndyRC: Just the three channel thing. [2178.46] AndyRC: I tell you, if you kill, if you blew on it, you would break it. [2182.38] AndyRC: It's that lightweight, you know, but for that indoor hall, it's so slow. [2187.34] AndyRC: It looks like it's flying in slow motion. [2189.34] AndyRC: And I want to do more. [2190.38] AndyRC: This is a fixed wing, right? [2192.06] AndyRC: Pardon? [2193.1] Tony: Fixed. [2193.42] Tony: This is a fixed wing. [2194.62] AndyRC: Oh, sorry. [2195.18] AndyRC: Did I not mention? [2196.22] AndyRC: Yeah. [2196.46] AndyRC: Fixed wing. [2197.1] AndyRC: Yeah. [2197.66] Tony: Yeah. [2198.3] Tony: NQIS Steve said it's 6.30 in the morning and 24 degrees. [2203.58] Tony: Got to love North Queensland. [2207.58] Jack: Andy, you've made a bit of a mishap there. [2211.98] Jack: You've let your little secret out for anyone who's really intelligent and looking in the background. [2218.14] Jack: For people who may or may not know, Andy RC can't stand drinking cold water. [2225.18] Jack: And what he does is he likes warming up his water. [2228.38] Jack: If you have a look, he's got his little ISDT charger behind him with his water bottle sat on it. [2233.9] Tony: I'm talking about them. [2235.5] Tony: Mine broke. [2236.3] Tony: What are you talking about? [2238.38] Jack: Yeah. [2239.02] Jack: He's got like this phobia of like cold drinks. [2243.02] AndyRC: This is all made up. [2244.46] AndyRC: I have no idea. [2245.66] Jack: He doesn't want people to know. [2247.26] Jack: He's really weird like that. [2249.1] AndyRC: Actually, I'm the opposite. [2250.7] AndyRC: I don't like warm. [2252.86] AndyRC: I like hot chocolate, but I don't drink tea or coffee. [2255.74] AndyRC: I can't stand it. [2256.78] AndyRC: It's horrible. [2257.66] Tony: What's wrong with you? [2259.34] Jack: Last room temperature water. [2261.26] Frank: You know, Red Bull and like, not even Red Bull, but like, yeah. [2269.34] AndyRC: Yeah. [2269.66] AndyRC: I like the sugar free Red Bull. [2271.9] AndyRC: I have to because like working. [2273.58] AndyRC: Yeah, good work. [2275.58] AndyRC: Work in 24 hours. [2277.26] AndyRC: In fact, two minutes before the show, just working on this. [2280.38] AndyRC: This EV300D video has taken me, I must have been working on it a week, man. [2286.46] AndyRC: But I go deep these days to make sure everyone's got the right information. [2291.98] AndyRC: So we love that. [2293.5] AndyRC: We love that. [2294.14] AndyRC: It's only producing two videos a week, but you know, I feel like they're more useful than [2301.58] AndyRC: the video every, you know, go into all of the finer details. [2305.74] Curry: It's still double the amount of videos I managed to get out at the moment. [2309.18] Curry: Because I got 40 minutes of sunshine this week and I wasn't able to do anything with it. [2315.58] AndyRC: I flew this way and I got the same screws that you did. [2319.9] Curry: Oh, you got one there in the end. [2322.3] AndyRC: Yeah. [2322.62] AndyRC: And it works. [2323.42] AndyRC: Still a lot of, but you know what? [2325.1] AndyRC: You didn't get much video noise, but I was still getting, [2329.26] AndyRC: I got constant lines across mine. [2332.3] AndyRC: So I'm not quite sure what that's. [2336.38] Curry: I got some, but it wasn't too bad. [2339.66] Curry: Because Lee said as well, he said, when I spoke to him earlier in the week, [2343.1] Curry: he said, I've got this Lao 5 thing to try. [2345.26] Curry: I said, oh, best check out the bolts at the end. [2348.38] Curry: Talk to Andy about how long he spent messing around trying to figure out the problem. [2353.26] AndyRC: Yeah. [2353.42] AndyRC: Oh, God. [2354.06] AndyRC: Yeah. [2354.46] AndyRC: Yeah. [2354.7] AndyRC: I did a lot of the heavy lifting for us on that one. [2358.06] AndyRC: More wasted time. [2359.5] AndyRC: I spent two days trying to figure out that and I was like, it's got to be, [2364.22] AndyRC: and no, it was the metal screws touching the carbon in the end. [2369.34] AndyRC: Yeah. [2369.9] AndyRC: But I found out it's top speed. [2372.38] AndyRC: Would you like to know how fast it went? [2374.86] AndyRC: No, because it didn't feel particularly fast. [2376.86] AndyRC: No. [2377.34] AndyRC: Fast or how fast? [2379.1] AndyRC: This is what I didn't understand because I watched Stu's video of it and it looked like [2383.66] AndyRC: it was the fastest thing I'd ever seen. [2386.62] AndyRC: It almost looked like the footage had been sped up. [2389.98] AndyRC: But I was like, maybe with these motors. [2392.62] AndyRC: But yeah, on 4S, nice freestyle speed and on 6S, 97 miles per hour. [2402.22] AndyRC: So fairly quick. [2404.38] AndyRC: But I mean, for these motors and 6S in the price, I really just don't know what this [2413.98] AndyRC: model is at all. [2415.26] AndyRC: So it's the LAL-5. [2417.9] AndyRC: Is it a freestyle copter? [2419.26] AndyRC: Is it a race copter? [2420.3] AndyRC: It just seems to be a bunch of components that shouldn't go together to me. [2425.34] Curry: I called it for, I'm going to do air quotes, warning people, for casual flyers who might [2430.46] Curry: be flying around and thinking, oh, I wish I had HD recording just for this bit, [2434.62] Curry: but I didn't put a GoPro on. [2435.74] Curry: It's like, hey, it's already in there. [2437.82] Curry: It's not for anything other than just casually flying around and stuff. [2441.1] Curry: And if you want to get HD video out of it, you can. [2443.66] Curry: But yeah, those motors were the problem. [2445.58] Curry: I'm guessing when you did your speed test, you couldn't hold full throttle for very long [2451.02] Curry: before that battery just went... [2453.26] AndyRC: No, I could because I used a... [2456.22] AndyRC: I got sent some prototype Hi-C batteries for it. [2460.3] AndyRC: So the voltage did sag, but it retained its RPMs. [2469.18] AndyRC: You have to use... [2471.5] AndyRC: I bet you used a... [2473.1] AndyRC: Did you use a 1050? [2475.58] Curry: Yeah, yeah, which is too small for that one, isn't it? [2477.42] AndyRC: Yeah, I used a 1300 and that made a big deal. [2480.86] AndyRC: Even still, right, a 1300, it still only got... [2484.78] AndyRC: It just made a three-minute flight time. [2487.82] AndyRC: And when it landed, the motors, I thought it would be the motors that would get hot [2493.34] AndyRC: because they are ridiculous status lights. [2496.3] AndyRC: Motors freezing cold. [2497.9] AndyRC: Battery, however, almost too hot to touch. [2500.86] AndyRC: And that's a premium brand, 1300 Hi-C big capacity. [2507.02] AndyRC: I got it here, actually. [2508.14] AndyRC: It's like a... [2508.94] AndyRC: I can't show you the serial number, but just unbranded it for the moment. [2515.1] AndyRC: Very good battery, but, you know, weird. [2517.9] AndyRC: Weird. [2520.46] AndyRC: I don't know who I could recommend it to. [2523.26] Tony: I need a sponsor for my batteries. [2526.7] Tony: I need 12S or 14S battery. [2529.18] Tony: But then when I got home, the guys were talking about flying 24S. [2537.9] Curry: Just say you're going to have 100S and have done with it and see what they do. [2541.5] Curry: So what is the... [2544.94] Curry: What batteries are people using? [2546.38] Curry: Because 14S is a really weird figure. [2550.06] Curry: Because it's like, okay, so you'd have... [2551.5] Curry: Most were 12. [2553.02] Curry: So you'd have 6S. [2553.98] Curry: I think the full team were made out of the cell. [2557.18] Curry: So did people produce 7S batteries? [2559.58] Tony: No, they were just making them. [2561.42] Tony: They were doing them the cell. [2563.02] Curry: They were doing their own cells. [2565.9] Curry: How did you charge it? [2566.94] Curry: It's like, oh, this don't fit in any balance connector. [2572.22] Tony: Yeah, they were probably having fun charging. [2574.54] Tony: But 12S was so fast. [2578.86] Tony: It was... [2579.26] Tony: They were literally... [2581.18] AndyRC: Because I asked you, Tony, because I wanted to build an X-Class. [2586.22] AndyRC: And I said, should I do 8S or 12? [2589.1] AndyRC: And you said there's not much difference between the two. [2591.74] AndyRC: So I guess you must have... [2595.74] Tony: The ESE technology has changed already. [2599.42] Tony: Okay, that does. [2602.06] AndyRC: I want one. [2602.62] AndyRC: It's just where to keep it. [2603.74] AndyRC: They're just so funny. [2604.78] Tony: I'll just put it on the wall. [2606.78] Tony: Hang it on your wall. [2607.66] Tony: You'll be fine. [2609.82] Tony: Yeah, I don't know. [2611.5] Tony: I don't like stuff. [2612.22] Tony: I think Painless has got a spare frame. [2616.94] Tony: I need to talk to Painless and ask him to give you the frame. [2620.38] Tony: I don't know if he gave it away or... [2622.46] AndyRC: I didn't see it. [2624.54] AndyRC: He's very kindly invited me around his abode. [2628.54] AndyRC: And he gave me the vapor, which, if you're listening to it, flies superb. [2635.02] AndyRC: It really made my day. [2637.98] AndyRC: And I got it on video. [2639.5] AndyRC: So maybe I'll do a video of it. [2641.18] AndyRC: I don't know if you can still get them. [2643.34] AndyRC: They're apparently quite old. [2645.18] Frank: I don't think you can get the straight vapor. [2647.34] Frank: But you can get, I think, maybe even the night vapor [2650.94] Frank: because that was around for a long while. [2652.94] Frank: And then there was an FPV vapor as well. [2656.38] AndyRC: That's going to be the comments, doesn't it? [2658.22] AndyRC: FPV it. FPV it. [2661.26] AndyRC: My friend Phil did manage to... [2663.26] AndyRC: You know, we did the bite loop. [2665.26] AndyRC: My friend Phil managed to fly the vapor through the bite loop. [2670.14] AndyRC: Wow. [2670.78] AndyRC: Which was... [2671.5] AndyRC: And I got it in slow motion, fingers crossed. [2674.14] AndyRC: So that should look pretty good. [2675.98] Frank: So Andy, you were talking about your selection of micros. [2680.54] Frank: And a class that I think was missed out was indoor. [2685.82] Frank: Between you and Currie, what's your favorite indoor... [2690.38] Frank: While the weather's miserable and you can't fly outside, [2692.78] Frank: what would you take to... [2694.46] Frank: Or like fly around your house or take to the indoor... [2699.58] Frank: That sports hall? [2700.46] Frank: Well, that's two different things, again, [2702.78] AndyRC: because if I was to say the house, [2705.34] AndyRC: I'd say the UK65 with the solid pins, [2709.34] AndyRC: or the UR65, a little bit cheaper, [2711.34] AndyRC: but it doesn't have smart audio. [2713.26] AndyRC: Those things are absolutely great. [2717.18] AndyRC: But for an indoor sports hall, the size that we've got, [2721.26] AndyRC: I can fly my 3-inch DJI model in there. [2725.58] AndyRC: So you can go up to 3 inches in a place like that. [2730.3] Curry: I think I'm missing the point of question. [2732.94] Curry: I think it's more about the whoop racing, the sports hall. [2735.9] Curry: For me, it's going to be the tiny Hawk S [2738.38] Curry: for indoors around the house. [2739.74] Curry: I think it's fantastic. [2741.5] Curry: And sports hall racing, the one I just tested recently [2744.54] Curry: is the BTFPV Meteor 65 with the stupid KV motors, [2750.94] Curry: which I tried flying in my house, which was a disaster [2753.82] Curry: because it's just like... [2755.02] Curry: Just touch the throttle. [2756.78] Curry: It's so quick. [2758.22] Curry: It'd be really fun to do around a course in a proper way. [2761.02] AndyRC: Around the course, yeah. [2762.78] AndyRC: Around the course, I don't agree with the 2S tiny Hawk [2768.54] AndyRC: because its voltage sags too much on 2S. [2772.14] Curry: No, I don't like the 2S idea, [2774.22] Curry: but that's kind of its outside idea, isn't it? [2776.7] Curry: But 1S indoors, I found that is, for me, [2779.66] Curry: it's letting out of the box, [2781.1] Curry: just been the best indoor quad, I think. [2783.9] AndyRC: It just has a slight problem. [2786.62] AndyRC: If you don't have rapid fire, [2789.18] AndyRC: then the VTX just records constant breakup. [2794.22] AndyRC: I have no idea why that is. [2796.22] AndyRC: And the camera isn't that great. [2798.06] AndyRC: I think a lot of people switch the camera out, [2800.06] AndyRC: don't they, to one of those RunCam Nanos [2803.18] AndyRC: and they switch the VTX out to the TBS. [2807.18] AndyRC: Is it called the Nano32 Pro? [2810.3] AndyRC: So yeah, so it's probably the best one, [2814.86] AndyRC: but it does have its flaws [2816.62] AndyRC: if you wanted to record the DVR. [2821.74] Curry: It's been all right with me, [2822.62] Curry: but before I do any test of indoor stuff, [2826.22] Curry: I was like, right, I'm going to turn all the lights on indoors [2829.18] Curry: because if you have the light, at least even, [2831.98] Curry: you don't have to deal with the sort of, [2834.54] Curry: you know, when you're sort of flying through [2835.82] Curry: and you can just see this big light bloom. [2837.98] Curry: It's like, what's that? [2838.86] Curry: And that's, you go into like a lit room from a dark room [2841.42] Curry: and the opposite, it's like you're going into a tunnel [2843.74] Curry: and it's not to you in there that the light adjusts properly. [2846.54] Curry: So just even lighting works. [2848.54] AndyRC: Yeah, but you use rapid fire, don't you see? [2851.26] Curry: I do, I don't have the breakout. [2852.7] AndyRC: You won't, but try it with the true, [2855.9] AndyRC: I tried it with the TrueD diversity and the IOM ways. [2860.06] AndyRC: In fact, actually, me and NJ, NJ got a gig after the show [2867.58] AndyRC: and I went and met with him for a drink [2871.02] AndyRC: and I took the tiny hort with me. [2874.62] AndyRC: I just had it in the car and I flew it around, [2878.22] AndyRC: got some amazing, what I thought looked amazing [2882.06] AndyRC: through the goggles, unfortunately, [2884.14] AndyRC: just recorded, scrambled, couldn't use it, [2886.94] AndyRC: did like a vlog and everything really gutted [2889.82] AndyRC: because yeah, it was cool meeting NJ. [2895.5] Curry: Who's taking phone calls? [2896.7] Tony: Who's more important than the show? [2899.18] Tony: Oh, it's Jack. [2902.75] Tony: Yeah, so he actually answers it. [2904.75] Jack: No, no, I'm doing the podcast. [2907.47] Jack: I'm, we're live on Let's Drone Out. [2910.67] Jack: What are you doing, phoning me? [2912.11] Jack: You know I'm going to beat you later, you stupid whore. [2918.67] UNKNOWN: What? [2919.71] Jack: Is that why you asked me if I was busy so I can watch? [2922.03] Jack: I thought we could send Andy a little present live [2926.43] Jack: and then get his reaction. [2927.71] Jack: Yeah, well, he likes it and you like it. [2936.83] Jack: You get off on it. [2937.63] Jack: It's not my fault. [2939.47] Jack: You like cucking me. [2942.51] Jack: You're up for that in five minutes. [2944.35] Jack: Oh my God. [2945.23] Jack: Hail on earth. [2945.95] Jack: Please be with him. [2947.71] Jack: Hang on, I'll send you the link. [2950.59] Curry: Oh God. [2951.39] Curry: Can I send you the children watching? [2953.55] Curry: This is a special... [2955.39] Jack: You know, the latest one. [2959.87] Jack: All right, cool. [2961.07] Jack: Thanks. [2961.55] Jack: Say yes on live TV. [2963.71] Jack: Yes. [2964.51] Jack: Yes. [2964.99] Jack: Oh, Andy, you're in for a treat. [2968.67] Jack: Get your bum out for the lads. [2971.79] Jack: Hey, Lily. [2972.75] Jack: How's it going? [2973.55] Jack: No fun. [2974.75] Jack: All right. [2975.23] Jack: Let's get in a bit. [2978.03] Jack: Sorry, why Jack's doing to you. [2980.19] Jack: Yeah, yeah. [2981.87] Jack: Sorry, Frank. [2982.59] Jack: I'm sorry, sorry. [2983.79] Jack: She's very unprofessional. [2986.51] AndyRC: She's hilarious and very underappreciated by Jack. [2991.47] Jack: Yeah, she likes it. [2992.99] AndyRC: Very underage. [2996.67] Tony: What did I say that out loud? [3000.59] AndyRC: She's very young. [3001.55] AndyRC: She's very young, man. [3002.83] Jack: That's a very dangerous thing to say, Tony. [3006.67] Jack: She is of legal age. [3009.47] Tony: Okay. [3010.35] Tony: In Venezuela. [3015.92] Jack: You probably could do that, Tony. [3018.0] Frank: Well, we've got another seven minutes to struggle through [3021.44] Frank: before I kill a button very, very quickly. [3025.76] Frank: Let's kill it. [3026.32] Frank: I'm tempted. [3027.76] Frank: Very tempted. [3031.12] Frank: Someone mentioned about solid state batteries in the chat. [3034.08] Frank: Has anyone read the news that's been coming up about these? [3036.96] Frank: I saw some articles. [3038.16] Tony: No. [3038.48] Tony: I've heard freer stuff flying for 30 minutes. [3041.76] AndyRC: That'll be the high discharge Lion packs, I believe. [3046.72] AndyRC: 45C, maybe. [3047.76] Curry: 45C, yeah. [3049.28] Curry: What's the solid state battery there? [3050.96] Curry: What are we talking about here, Frank? [3052.56] Frank: I don't know. [3054.51] Frank: I was hoping someone else would have. [3056.51] Frank: Are they not all right? [3057.23] Curry: We need to know about stuff. [3058.59] Curry: Come on. [3059.07] Frank: Are they not all right? [3060.03] Jack: Frank's a human. [3061.31] Jack: He looks lost. [3062.91] Jack: Denier. [3064.91] Jack: And Elon Tusk is a denier. [3068.43] Jack: Can't stand him. [3070.27] Jack: Why not? [3071.71] Frank: He thinks he's all fake. [3073.23] Frank: Did you see this stuff about him being involved pretty directly [3078.99] Frank: in swatting a whistleblower about some of the safety concerns [3083.95] Frank: about the batteries with thermal runaway? [3087.47] Frank: He's made you. [3089.07] Tony: Jack's got a thermal runaway. [3091.15] Tony: It's normally late at night. [3096.67] Jack: I'm still very upset with you. [3100.11] Jack: Lily's in the chat if you want to harass her. [3103.31] AndyRC: All I know is that when those two Falcon 9s landed in unison, [3108.75] AndyRC: I cried so he can do whatever he wants, in my opinion. [3113.55] AndyRC: That's amazing what they've done there. [3116.27] Frank: No, he's definitely like an actual supervillain [3120.19] Frank: just as much as it would appear to be, you know, [3123.95] Frank: going by the Gigafactory and all the rockets and everything. [3129.15] Frank: Like, it is something a bomb villain would do [3131.55] Frank: and he is a bomb villain, so that's my opinion. [3134.99] Curry: For the best you've had, it was the Elon Tusk reference [3137.47] Curry: from Andy proving he's up to date on Rick and Morty. [3140.27] Jack: Yeah. [3140.75] Jack: Yeah. [3141.31] Jack: You're not supposed to be able to see that till January. [3144.67] Curry: Me and Andy keep flying out to New York, [3146.59] Curry: especially just to see it. [3148.03] Curry: Yeah. [3148.43] Curry: Or something. [3149.15] AndyRC: I do as well. [3150.11] AndyRC: Do you know what me and Angie did yesterday? [3153.47] AndyRC: We've both got an and Frank. [3156.03] Frank: Are you sure you want to say this on the Earth? [3159.39] Frank: What's going on? [3160.67] AndyRC: Yeah. [3161.39] AndyRC: We watched a movie together through VR. [3167.23] AndyRC: It was amazing. [3169.07] AndyRC: We sorted it out. [3170.03] AndyRC: So if you, now that you've joined the VR world, [3173.39] AndyRC: Andy, I believe you've got the Quest. [3175.55] Frank: I did get the Quest yesterday and it is amazing. [3179.07] Frank: Yeah. [3179.31] Frank: How much porn have you watched on it? [3180.91] Tony: It's not porn, yeah. [3182.91] Tony: VR porn. [3183.87] Tony: That's all people with porn. [3186.43] AndyRC: So we can sit in a virtual cinema [3190.91] AndyRC: and throw popcorn at each other. [3192.91] AndyRC: But you really do feel like you're in the cinema. [3195.79] AndyRC: You've got 5.1 surround sound. [3199.23] AndyRC: Absolutely brilliant. [3200.59] AndyRC: And if Angie is listening to this, I bought a Quest as well. [3206.59] AndyRC: Selling my CV1 and buying a Quest [3209.47] AndyRC: because they're really cheap, aren't they? [3211.63] AndyRC: You can still get decent money for the CV1s. [3214.51] AndyRC: So there's no need for a CV1 anymore [3217.79] AndyRC: because the Quest plugs into a PC, doesn't it? [3221.71] Frank: It can do, yeah. [3222.83] Frank: But it is heavy. [3225.71] Frank: It is quite heavy for something you strap into your face. [3230.19] AndyRC: Yeah, but you're comparing that to your Dominator goggles, though, surely. [3235.47] Frank: Yeah, yeah. [3237.79] Frank: But that's just something to be aware of for FPV people. [3241.23] Frank: It is less comfortable than Fat Shocks. [3243.71] Frank: And it's a bit more finicky. [3244.99] Frank: And I mean, it might just be because you're moving head around a bit more. [3247.79] Frank: But I found that you do have to be a bit more precise [3251.23] Frank: about exactly how you sit it on your face. [3254.19] Frank: I found it a bit less comfortable. [3255.63] AndyRC: But still, it doesn't... [3256.75] AndyRC: That's weird. [3257.23] AndyRC: Because the CV1s aren't like that at all. [3259.95] AndyRC: Now you've got me worried. [3262.59] AndyRC: Well, maybe I'll get them in return if I don't like them, man. [3265.95] Frank: It doesn't matter because within 30 seconds [3270.83] Frank: of just the emotion of it, it's just amazing. [3275.31] Frank: And you think about everything. [3276.99] AndyRC: And Jay's got both the CV1 and the Quest. [3279.95] AndyRC: And he said the Quest is just so much better. [3282.99] AndyRC: And if you're worried about comfort, you can just lie down on a bed with them [3288.67] AndyRC: and do your thing. [3292.83] Curry: You're revealing it's killer app now. [3295.47] Frank: Well, I will say that it doesn't, I think, at least, [3300.67] Frank: judging from reading around and a couple of tracking issues that I had, [3304.51] Frank: I think it's not a fan of mirrors. [3307.39] Frank: Because when I was outside of my room where there's a fitted wardrobe [3312.99] Frank: with a full-length mirror, it started doing very strange things. [3317.87] AndyRC: That doesn't surprise me because it uses cameras rather than sensors. [3322.99] AndyRC: So, yeah, I've got some massive mirrors as well. [3326.51] AndyRC: That could be a problem. [3328.27] AndyRC: Yeah, interesting. [3329.31] Curry: Some would be a video of you guys walking into mirrors. [3331.63] Curry: That would be fun. [3333.15] Frank: As long as I faced away from the mirrors and didn't go right up against it, [3338.03] Frank: it was fine. [3339.71] Curry: Me and Tonya feel like right porpoise here with our little PSVRs. [3344.19] Curry: Chain to our desks because we can't wander around. [3348.51] Frank: We're going to have to do an LDO rec room at some point. [3350.99] AndyRC: I tell you what, though, this watching movies together is awesome [3354.59] AndyRC: because it is really just like hanging out. [3358.03] AndyRC: It's strange because the audio is done in a way that it's like, [3364.35] AndyRC: he sounds like he's sitting next to you and it's freaky. [3367.87] AndyRC: I'm actually like, we'll watch the movie and when something funny happens, [3371.95] AndyRC: I turn to him like we both laugh. [3374.11] AndyRC: But what's weird is it can sense that we're laughing. [3377.23] AndyRC: And so our avatars are laughing. [3380.11] Tony: Oh, that is so Dutch rather. [3382.03] Tony: I'll bet you do that and all. [3383.95] AndyRC: No, but we we we. [3387.39] AndyRC: N.J. was trying to teach me how to do this, though, with the controller. [3391.55] AndyRC: Perhaps I shouldn't have said that. [3392.67] AndyRC: Sorry, N.J. [3394.59] AndyRC: In joke. [3395.23] Curry: I would be the worst person for this because I would be turning to VR people saying, [3399.31] Curry: shut up. [3399.95] Curry: It's movie time. [3400.83] Curry: It's not talking time. [3403.55] AndyRC: Well, we we spent quite some time trying to get at work. [3407.15] AndyRC: And whilst we were doing that, I tried to find this. [3410.91] AndyRC: There's not really only one app that does it. [3412.99] AndyRC: But there's this this other weird app where you it's not a private room [3418.43] AndyRC: and everybody's watching different things. [3421.63] AndyRC: So I joined this VR room and all I could hear was just one bloke [3427.47] AndyRC: just doing this heavy breathing down my ear. [3430.75] AndyRC: I was like, what is going on here? [3434.19] Jack: And the RC. [3436.11] Jack: No one's ever going to go out over your. [3441.87] AndyRC: Yeah, it's going to go out ever again. [3444.99] AndyRC: And Jay, if you're listening, I I got the quest. [3448.43] AndyRC: You convince me you. [3451.79] Jack: It's terrible. [3453.15] Jack: Hopefully you'll get him back on in January. [3457.39] AndyRC: Actually, actually, I got him back because I met I made him by the DJI system. [3463.23] AndyRC: Oh, no, going back and forth. [3465.47] AndyRC: I'm making each other be penniless. [3472.83] AndyRC: Sorry, what were you going to say? [3474.91] AndyRC: I'll get him back when what what's happening? [3478.43] Frank: Oh, we may not sign us off. [3481.15] Jack: Oh, no, is it that time already? [3483.79] AndyRC: I don't. [3484.59] AndyRC: Oh, Lily's in the chat. [3485.71] AndyRC: I don't fly yet. [3486.75] Jack: Jack won't let me know that she's got the IQ text and then the registration. [3492.27] AndyRC: I'll do anything. [3493.07] AndyRC: I'll do it tomorrow, right? [3496.27] AndyRC: Huh? [3497.07] Frank: What's what's the date? [3500.51] Frank: Oh, there we go. [3501.23] Frank: A couple of days. [3503.55] Frank: Make sure you got all your paperwork all sorted. [3505.47] Frank: If you're flying over 250 grams outdoors. [3511.95] AndyRC: I'm going to take credit for [3514.59] AndyRC: I'm going to take credit for Lily being a YouTuber. [3516.91] AndyRC: I told her she'd be a star. [3519.07] AndyRC: You will be Lily. [3520.83] Jack: Just Tony, can we film you trying to fill in your [3527.15] Tony: I'll watch the show and listen to it. [3529.39] Tony: You already got all the answers from us. [3531.63] Tony: You idiot. [3533.07] AndyRC: Are they then though? [3534.03] AndyRC: Do they not switch them around? [3536.35] AndyRC: They must do. [3537.79] Jack: Yeah. [3539.07] Jack: Well, on on on the next bonus podcast, we'll try and fill them all out or something. [3544.19] Jack: Just try and do the collection. [3545.63] Tony: You're a 10 out of 10. [3548.59] Tony: Some of the questions were just ridiculous and not to us. [3551.95] Tony: They're just too DJI. [3553.63] Tony: Yeah. [3554.11] AndyRC: Well, that's that's really who they're aimed at because they know that everyone else is sensible. [3559.15] Curry: Some of them didn't have any legal precedent, like you're not allowed to be concealed when [3564.99] Curry: you're flying or like how do you make sure that people can see you told you big massive flashing [3571.39] Jack: pedo drone collars. [3573.79] Jack: I'm going to invent them. [3574.99] Jack: I'm going to then the CIA will give me nothing. [3580.11] Frank: You reminded me of something, Jack. [3582.11] Frank: What did we do at the weekends? [3585.23] Frank: Uh, [3588.19] Frank: I don't know what day of the week is. [3592.51] Frank: Something for LDO. [3594.51] Tony: A shop. [3596.19] Jack: Yes. [3597.15] Jack: Is that what you want me to talk about? [3598.83] Tony: I think you should. [3599.87] Jack: Are you sure? [3600.75] Jack: Because the printer is going to shut down for all for a week or so. [3606.27] Curry: Can we just go back to shops as well after after the, uh, the podcast, if we may. [3612.11] Curry: All right. [3612.43] Jack: Just just quickly. [3613.95] Jack: Go on. [3616.43] Jack: Um, uh, yes, Andrew, Andrew slash Frank, um, helped. [3622.83] Jack: Well, basically set up the shop because I got so far and just gave up. [3628.75] Frank: It was that old watch red dwarf. [3631.39] Frank: So I didn't have my play. [3634.11] Tony: I want to set up the shop. [3636.51] Jack: Well, we've got a store. [3639.47] Jack: We now have a let's throw now. [3642.91] Jack: Store, uh, it's let's run out.com forward slash store. [3647.87] Jack: If you want to buy anything, you can buy merch. [3652.27] Jack: Please don't buy anything because that means we've got to then get [3655.79] Jack: a packet and then we got to send it to you. [3659.47] Curry: I still see the logistical problem here. [3662.35] Jack: There is a massive logistical, but I will wait and save this disclaimer. [3668.27] Jack: Uh, if you order anything, uh, you're not going to get it anytime soon. [3675.15] Jack: Well, that was a great idea. [3678.27] Jack: Yeah. [3678.83] Jack: And you might get hair. [3680.67] Jack: Uh, we might wear it and film videos. [3684.11] Jack: Other fluids and you might get other stuff in it in the pocket. [3689.87] Tony: It's hidden for you. [3690.83] Jack: Yeah. [3692.35] AndyRC: I have to say, Jack went to massive extremes to make a video of him wearing [3697.63] AndyRC: the clothes that he sent me LDO sock. [3700.43] Jack: Ed, you're a genius. [3701.95] Jack: Ed, are you free tomorrow? [3703.79] Jack: Do you want my spare ticket? [3706.67] Jack: You only need to buy the one. [3709.55] Jack: Yeah. [3709.79] Jack: You only get, yeah. [3711.87] Jack: Yeah. [3712.19] Tony: One, that's it. [3716.75] Jack: Very high in starch content. [3723.87] Jack: If someone orders every single item in one order, you get a free Lily Polaroid. [3730.59] Jack: So as long as you're old enough. [3732.99] Jack: All right. [3733.71] Jack: Thank you. [3734.03] Jack: You've been listening to lecture. [3735.23] Jack: That's a joke, by the way. [3736.59] Jack: You've been listening to lecture. [3737.55] Jack: Now you've been joined by Andy RC. [3740.19] Jack: Ta ta. [3741.71] Jack: Curry kitten. [3742.99] Jack: Goodbye. [3743.87] Jack: Andy crash. [3744.59] Jack: Frank. [3745.63] Jack: Bye. [3746.59] Jack: I'll be bright until I'm fine. [3747.71] Jack: I'm really sorry. [3748.99] Jack: And everyone's favorite. [3751.07] Jack: My little Dhoni. [3754.11] Jack: Yeehaw. [3755.87] Jack: Thank you. [3756.43] Jack: And good night. [3758.99] AndyRC: Hello. [3759.31] AndyRC: And you're listening to let's drone out the best drone based podcast on the internet. [3764.67] AndyRC: We would like to thank our patrons, including [3769.63] AndyRC: and also art Faulkner. [3772.19] AndyRC: And lastly. [3773.55] Jack: That's it. [3774.35] Jack: We've only got two of the four. [3776.83] Jack: Patreons that don't hate to have their names read out. [3781.87] Jack: So if you want your name read out, go to patreon. [3788.59] Jack: That's right. [3798.78] UNKNOWN: Telemetry loss.