=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 227 ===
Title: LDO 227 - LDO Live IRL!
Recorded: 2020-01-02
Hosts: Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andy, Neil "NJ Tech" Jones
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 2,475
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ4FKRdqlQA); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/738685174-letsdroneout-ldo-227-ldo-live-irl.mp3)
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In front of a live audience at MK Makerspace

[0.0] Jack: Hello and welcome to Let's Drone Out, the best, well the only UK FPV podcast,
[6.8] Jack: sponsored by the lovely people from our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Let's Drone Out.
[12.88] Jack: In particular we'd like to thank these guys, Art Faulkner, Mikey Dredd, Wacky Wes, David Powell.
[24.24] Jack: Thank you guys, you're the best, we can edit our podcast, thank you.
[58.9] Jack: Hello and welcome to another fantastic Thursday.
[67.14] Jack: As always we are 24 minutes late, we might as well just round it up to half-past,
[73.06] Jack: I've done half a show. Paul Frank, you're very stressed out, how many cameras?
[78.74] Frank: Gone through, this is the third one, first one worked fine from when we got here till
[86.34] Frank: we were just going live and then the battery died and I couldn't find the other batteries,
[90.74] Frank: they're probably in a pile somewhere over there. The network one just didn't want to work,
[98.18] Frank: so now thank you Gav for lending us your webcam. Gav do you want to stick your head in and
[105.14] Jack: stay alive? Come here, come on Gav, you're not that bad looking. Better than you. Oh thanks.
[116.34] Jack: Good enough. There we go, you got a hand.
[123.14] Jack: We are at the Maker Space in Milton Keynes. The MK Maker Space, thank you very much for
[130.42] Frank: having us here, we've been here coming around all afternoon with a load of tiny whoops.
[139.94] Jack: When they realised that their organised electronics had been blown around by
[145.86] Jack: Tony's not-so-tiny whoop, I'm sure we won't be allowed back.
[149.78] Frank: Do you want to go grab the cine whoop you were flying around here?
[162.26] Frank: Just to see what we're looking at, that's just kind of trundling along. Hang on.
[167.54] Frank: Silly wave.
[174.98] Jack: Oh it's got sounds on it. Yeah man, that's the chip, go. Let's try and budge it up next to you.
[181.06] Andy: I don't think so. It's crawling on me. That's what they do. It's like Jack in car form.
[189.14] Andy: So left a bit, left a bit, that's it, power it. Oh no. Okay you can go back on the floor.
[202.58] Andy: I feel violated enough on this show without RC getting involved with it. So to kind of
[209.14] Frank: give a bit of background on why we're here, what's going on. So a few months ago,
[215.94] Frank: Curry Kitten, who couldn't make it today because he's on some holidays. Seen him before,
[222.1] Frank: somewhere. Night holidays. He was building his own little sim for fun because, as you do,
[234.34] Frank: and he accidentally made a building that didn't have any gravity and was just bouncing off into
[241.54] Frank: space. And that was great fun. And I have for ages, since before Mini Airshow, wanted to have some
[250.98] Frank: team sports using no gravity. Well, basically kind of rocket league kind of stuff, but with whoops.
[260.26] Frank: And Curry Kitten's kind of happy bug on his sim, maybe wants to try that out again. So I thought
[270.74] Frank: that'd be a good excuse to get the LDO team all in one place and get some patrons along and kind of
[278.1] Frank: make a day of it. So me and Jack were hunting around for ages and ages and ages.
[289.54] Frank: Trying to find some village halls, some gym rooms, some anything we could get hold of
[297.54] Frank: on a Thursday afternoon slash evening and try some ideas out. And we were struggling
[305.62] Frank: for a long, long time. And then, luckily, about a month ago, I saw one of Jenny's articles in
[315.94] Frank: Hackaday, which mentions that she was part of the Milton Keynes Makerspace. So I thought, well,
[324.74] Frank: maybe Jenny knows somewhere we could maybe have a go. And it turns out, here we are.
[330.42] Frank: It's getting higher, isn't it? He gets excited when he talks about Jen.
[337.78] Frank: And so here we are. We have taken over the place. I would turn the camera around,
[344.66] Frank: but I don't want to touch anything camera related at the moment.
[348.18] Andy: Take a picture of the camera because there's so many things coming out.
[354.26] Jack: It literally looks like something out of Fifty Shades of Grey.
[357.54] Andy: Have we got a mirror? Yeah, that'd be a good idea. There must be a mirror around here.
[361.62] Jack: There's everything else. We all carry mirrors.
[365.94] Frank: So, yeah, we've taken over the space up here, which is the makerspace. We've also been flying
[372.42] Frank: out in the men's shed downstairs, which is a massive workshop full of
[378.9] Frank: bantles and everything. All the toys. Yeah, all the toys.
[381.94] Frank: I'm playing the shelves of all of them, the top chairs.
[384.02] Frank: Yeah, with your flying wonder.
[389.78] Frank: Yeah, and we've had a go at some team sports. We've got some helium balloons.
[397.14] Andy: We had some helium balloons, then, Jenny.
[399.46] Frank: Yeah, and James is really good at popping them, it turns out.
[403.22] Frank: I thought that was the point of the game.
[407.86] Jack: Shall I introduce people? And then, yeah, and then disclaimer.
[413.14] Frank: This is like a disclaimer and stuff.
[414.74] Jack: Oh, yeah, I know. Yeah, well, without him, we are lost. Hello. And you're listening to.
[420.34] Jack: You're joined by Andrew Frank. Hello, Andy. I'll do my little wife.
[430.42] Jack: I'm bright till I fly. And this is the sexiest man alive, enjoy.
[440.5] Jack: Why haven't you not been on for a while?
[442.58] Jack: It's been working.
[446.18] Andy: I want to see him working. Yeah.
[448.02] Jack: Proof. This is busy working. Yeah.
[450.98] Jack: And this is I hate Jack.
[453.46] Jack: So that's the hero. That's we adjust them.
[456.26] NJ: You're loved and hated in equal measure.
[458.82] NJ: And we're going to parallel it.
[460.66] NJ: Worked. Where's the work scale?
[463.46] NJ: The work scale. Obviously, it works goes down.
[466.82] NJ: Oh, OK.
[469.54] NJ: Defuse your joke immediately.
[472.5] Frank: I like these seats.
[475.78] Frank: I'm not rocking.
[477.14] Jack: Tony's not used to having a seat.
[478.82] Jack: Do you need to wait, Tony? It's like you.
[480.98] Frank: I like it because it's so high up.
[482.98] Jack: It took him ages to get a desk to work out in his room.
[488.42] Jack: And he still haven't got a decent chair.
[490.58] Frank: Well, it's all right for me.
[493.86] Andy: Did anybody actually get the balloon thing on video?
[496.66] Andy: Yeah, you got some.
[499.3] Andy: So we should put that up somewhere after to give context on, you know, this episode.
[506.02] NJ: Andrew, talk to us briefly about the regs, the updates.
[510.98] NJ: How many days have we got left?
[512.42] NJ: Oh, yeah, I wanted to ask about that.
[514.42] Andy: Shouldn't we be in prison right now?
[516.42] Andy: Shouldn't everyone these months have a code on the side of them?
[519.22] Frank: Well, I'm flying indoors, so we're all right.
[521.54] Frank: All right, so we're flying indoors, so we're fine.
[526.5] Frank: I think the vast, vast majority of them are sub 250 grams.
[530.34] Frank: And even though they have a camera on them, it's before July 2020.
[534.42] Frank: So it's fine.
[536.66] Frank: Come July, then we will need to have them registered,
[542.34] Frank: even if they're under 250 grams, if they have a camera on them.
[546.02] Frank: So there's that to consider.
[550.18] Andy: But what if they're not big enough to fit any sort of red logo on those?
[554.9] Andy: You know what I mean?
[555.86] Frank: What would you do?
[556.9] Frank: Where would you put it?
[558.66] Frank: It doesn't have to be that big.
[560.02] Frank: There's some recommendations somewhere.
[561.54] Frank: It's something like three millimetres height text.
[564.9] Frank: So that's tiny.
[566.66] Frank: And you can put that on anywhere.
[568.74] Andy: But if it's over 250 grams right now, and you're a member of the BMFA,
[574.02] Andy: when does that come in when we have to start putting stuff on?
[577.38] Frank: If you're...
[582.82] Andy: Ignore the safety.
[584.42] Andy: Everything is this...
[586.02] Andy: CGR.
[586.58] Frank: We're proving how safe they are.
[588.42] Andy: That's true.
[589.3] Andy: Tony just did that on a balloon.
[592.1] Frank: Absolutely no worry whatsoever.
[595.14] Frank: I would happily have any of these flying to my face and not be worried.
[599.22] Frank: Apart from that.
[600.1] Frank: Let's test this.
[601.06] Frank: Go for it.
[601.86] Frank: Go for it.
[602.74] Frank: Go on, go for it.
[605.78] Andy: The pressure got too pretty.
[607.3] Jack: Yeah.
[607.94] Frank: Shut your eyes.
[608.9] Andy: Gatwick has nothing to worry about.
[614.5] Jack: Brilliant.
[615.3] Jack: Drone attack.
[616.26] Andy: Absolutely fine.
[617.06] Andy: Andy, are you dead?
[619.86] Andy: Not yet.
[620.5] Andy: Wouldn't this be awful if something actually did go wrong in it, injured him in that one?
[624.26] Andy: I know.
[626.74] Andy: That's how confident I am.
[628.02] NJ: Where's my eye?
[632.26] NJ: Do you know what they haven't put in the map?
[634.74] NJ: They haven't actually designated a font for your label.
[639.94] NJ: Oh, so you could do...
[641.14] NJ: That's open.
[641.94] Frank: It just has to be legible.
[643.54] Frank: Right.
[643.94] Frank: Oh, it does.
[644.58] Frank: It has to be somewhere accessible without tools or knowledge.
[649.14] Frank: Legible if you read putting on.
[651.86] Jack: What about that weird font with loads of symbols?
[655.62] Jack: Windings.
[656.58] Jack: Yeah, windings.
[657.46] Jack: Yeah.
[658.1] Frank: I mean, I just don't like it.
[662.42] Andy: Okay.
[662.74] Andy: So a drone has to hit one of us in the face every time someone donates.
[669.86] Andy: Lurgy.
[670.34] Andy: Oh, this might be your highest place.
[672.9] Frank: Can you fly back into Frank's face, please?
[674.66] Jack: That won't work.
[675.14] Jack: Anyone?
[675.86] Jack: No.
[676.26] Frank: Can I get it again?
[677.14] Jack: Ben, choose who gets the drone in the face.
[679.54] Jack: Yeah.
[680.1] Jack: Whoever donated, choose who gets the drone in the face.
[683.22] Frank: Choose your victim now.
[684.66] Andy: See, you've got a new one.
[686.82] Andy: Oh, my God.
[690.34] Andy: This is how sci-fi art someone's going to have in their life.
[693.22] Andy: I'm going to class this as hate speeches.
[696.1] Andy: Someone chooses me.
[697.22] Andy: Jack's been selected.
[700.18] Andy: Someone's flying a jacket.
[701.3] Frank: Someone's flying a jacket, mate.
[702.74] Andy: Jack is going to target.
[704.42] Andy: Jack's face, mate.
[705.14] Frank: No, that's it.
[708.02] Frank: This is my guy.
[709.94] Andy: Oh, oh, did it donate twice?
[711.86] Andy: No, he missed.
[712.98] Andy: No, he missed.
[713.46] Andy: Oh, he missed.
[714.26] Jack: Right, actually.
[715.06] Jack: Did it have to be?
[717.22] Andy: Hell.
[720.26] Frank: This is good.
[721.06] Frank: Why is this guy?
[722.1] Andy: Why have you been doing this all day?
[723.46] Frank: It's much better than this.
[724.34] Andy: I hate all of you.
[726.98] Jack: So why do these stupid podcasts?
[728.9] Andy: Oh, I got you.
[730.02] Andy: Hey, hey, hey.
[730.74] NJ: Oh, that's excellent.
[732.42] NJ: Suddenly, we've got a 10-pound donation.
[735.78] Frank: There we go.
[736.74] Frank: Thanks, FX.
[737.62] Frank: No, choose your victim.
[739.94] Jack: I need to log in to Streamlabs.
[742.02] Frank: Yeah, because you want to donate.
[743.86] Andy: So get your batteries charged, lads.
[746.1] Andy: We're going to be here for a while.
[747.94] Jack: Oh, God.
[749.94] Frank: So if you're a member of the UK Model Flying Associations
[755.3] Frank: and you have one of the competency tests,
[760.34] Frank: so for the BMFA, that is A test, the B test,
[764.74] Frank: or the remote competency thing that I can't remember exactly
[769.38] Frank: what it's called.
[769.78] Frank: It's rcc.bmfa.org forward slash rcc, because it's tidy.
[777.3] Frank: Or with FPVUK, then it's the A test, their A test.
[782.34] Frank: If you've got those and you've got the membership
[784.26] Frank: and you've renewed your membership,
[785.62] Frank: because that's expired yesterday.
[789.94] NJ: But you can be with either organization.
[791.54] Frank: Either organization, as long as you've got
[793.22] Frank: one of the online competency tests
[794.98] Frank: that you've done with one of them.
[796.26] Frank: Fine till July.
[797.3] Frank: Then you're fine till July.
[798.34] Frank: But without any codes or anything,
[800.18] Frank: you don't have to put anything on the model.
[801.62] Frank: Well, that's the thing.
[802.26] Frank: So they will be sent out to members of those associations
[806.02] Frank: come February.
[807.86] Frank: But that's only if you've selected,
[811.3] Frank: you've opted in to that system.
[812.98] Frank: So if you haven't opted into that system
[815.22] Frank: and paid the extra £9 through BMFA or FPVUK,
[818.9] Frank: I'm going to have to watch this.
[820.1] Frank: Then you cannot.
[823.62] NJ: OK, Tony, is that over £250 now, Kion?
[827.22] NJ: Thank you to FX NODE for the £10 donation.
[829.62] NJ: It hasn't been said already.
[831.14] NJ: Very generous.
[832.02] NJ: Thank you.
[833.62] NJ: Change your victim.
[834.5] Jack: Yeah, who gets the drone in the face?
[836.82] Frank: Surely for 10, you should get that one in the face.
[841.7] Andy: I think then we might be in some trouble.
[843.54] Andy: Jesus Christ.
[844.66] Andy: What is wrong with Orlu?
[846.34] Frank: So come July, if it's under 250 grams
[850.82] Frank: and it has a camera on, i.e. tiny, anything you're flying FPV,
[854.66] Frank: anything with a Wi-Fi camera on it, whatever,
[858.34] Frank: you know, the Mavic Mini, the 249-gram Mavic Mini,
[863.06] Frank: all of that, you will have to be a registered pilot.
[867.14] Frank: So you're not registering the craft,
[868.42] Frank: you're registering yourself either with the drone model.
[874.34] Frank: What's it called?
[875.22] Frank: Drone model aircraft registration,
[880.26] Frank: the long acronym with the CAA,
[883.78] Frank: or with the BMFA getting, paying them an extra £9,
[889.06] Frank: or paying FPV UK an extra £9.
[891.46] Frank: Those are both opt-in things.
[892.98] Frank: So you have to actually log in and say,
[894.74] Frank: yes, I want to opt-in to those with the BMFA or FPV UK.
[898.34] Frank: So if I want to fly tomorrow, I've got to register.
[901.46] Frank: Or, no, I've got to...
[902.98] Frank: You've got to be a member of BMFA UK.
[905.3] Frank: Or FPV UK.
[905.94] Frank: Which I always am, yeah.
[907.46] Frank: That will sort you out to,
[910.5] Frank: as long as you've got your competency as well,
[912.42] Frank: so RCC, the thing that we got you doing a few weeks ago.
[915.94] Frank: Right, I have to do that then.
[917.06] Frank: No, you already did it, didn't you?
[918.42] Frank: Didn't you do that on the show?
[919.54] Frank: We did it on the show.
[920.02] Frank: No, that was me.
[920.74] Frank: Oh, sure.
[921.62] Frank: Well, you need to do that.
[922.82] Jack: Yeah, copy my answers.
[924.9] Jack: Don't copy his answers.
[926.18] Jack: No.
[926.5] Frank: Except for the other one.
[927.62] Frank: Don't listen to him.
[928.66] Frank: No.
[930.9] Frank: There's nothing.
[931.62] Frank: If you've got that, and you're signed up,
[934.58] Frank: then you're all good.
[936.42] Frank: You can carry on flying.
[937.94] Frank: In February, you'll receive a number
[940.1] Frank: which you need to stick on all your craft.
[942.66] Frank: Yeah, but...
[944.9] Andy: Are they providing, like, the way, like, stickers,
[947.7] Andy: or are you going to make your own up somehow?
[949.86] Andy: I think we're making them up.
[951.86] Frank: There's got to be a certain size.
[953.62] Frank: Yeah, there's a size requirement.
[955.78] Frank: But it's, like, three millimeters or something.
[957.54] Frank: It's tiny.
[958.26] Frank: You can...
[958.74] Frank: I just stick it all on your batteries,
[960.26] Frank: and then put the batteries on your cord,
[962.02] Frank: and that's effectively your number on the batteries.
[964.5] Jack: Got to be on the craft.
[965.7] Frank: Well, so the batteries can't be on the craft
[967.7] Frank: if you're weighing it, so...
[969.06] Jack: Yeah, but yeah, it's your fuel tank, doesn't it?
[970.9] Frank: So just everyone sticks stickers on their batteries.
[973.78] Andy: And then when your battery throws in a crash...
[976.34] Jack: Or you lend a battery to your mate.
[979.78] Andy: Yeah, because you'll just put all the giant codes on yours anyways,
[983.3] Andy: won't you, Tom?
[983.78] Andy: And I'll put all the pieces on.
[984.74] NJ: I suppose if that ever went to court,
[986.5] NJ: you can say you were flying your battery
[988.02] NJ: and it threw the drone.
[989.06] Frank: Yeah, and yeah, that's the operator ID
[993.54] Frank: that goes on the drone,
[995.3] Frank: and that's what you're paying the £9 for.
[998.5] Frank: And you're paying £9 to either the CAA, BMFA, or FPVUK.
[1003.46] Frank: BMFA and FPVUK are actually losing money on that.
[1006.42] NJ: This is £8 of that funding, coffee, and donuts
[1009.78] NJ: for this new department.
[1011.14] Frank: Basically.
[1011.62] Frank: Right.
[1012.42] Frank: Yeah.
[1014.18] Frank: It's disclaimer.
[1016.18] Frank: That's a good point, disclaimer.
[1018.1] Frank: Any views expressed on this podcast
[1020.9] Frank: by any host or anyone else that just dig more loudly
[1025.86] Frank: shouldn't be taken seriously.
[1027.38] Frank: Ignore us.
[1028.34] Frank: Get your information from proper sources.
[1031.62] Frank: We're all idiots.
[1033.38] Frank: You are my proper source.
[1035.7] Jack: What would you recommend doing?
[1037.38] Jack: Read Hackaday.
[1041.06] Frank: Yeah, read Hackaday.
[1043.06] Frank: I would say sign up with either FPVUK or BMFA.
[1047.3] Jack: Who's your preferred?
[1049.3] Frank: Personally.
[1050.1] Frank: If you have a club near you,
[1052.98] Frank: I think BMFA is a very good way to go.
[1055.94] Frank: BMFA is the way to go if you're looking at clubs.
[1058.9] Frank: It makes sense.
[1059.54] Frank: It's more recognised across the UK as a...
[1062.66] Frank: Racing-wise, BMFA is the way to go.
[1066.34] Frank: If you're in the middle of nowhere
[1067.78] Frank: and you just fly with your spotter, obviously,
[1070.58] Frank: because you wouldn't fly alone,
[1071.78] Frank: because that would be very illegal.
[1073.94] Frank: Don't do that.
[1075.3] Jack: What happens if you've got no friends and you smell?
[1077.86] Frank: Like Tony.
[1079.3] Frank: Then you have to pay someone to be your spotter.
[1082.1] Frank: He's got his dogs.
[1083.86] Frank: I don't think they can be classed
[1085.22] Frank: as competent observers.
[1086.26] Frank: I'm sorry.
[1086.9] Frank: What do I?
[1088.82] Jack: Especially if you put food on it,
[1090.9] Jack: they'll observe anything.
[1093.38] Frank: But yeah, I think if you're not looking at clubs or racing
[1098.02] Frank: and you're just looking to fly on your own
[1100.18] Frank: with a mate as your spotter,
[1102.18] Frank: FPVUK, you might as well save the extra power of many pounds.
[1108.1] NJ: As far as I'm concerned.
[1109.3] NJ: Slight old foxes comment.
[1110.58] NJ: I quite like that.
[1111.38] NJ: I will register my tiny book
[1112.82] NJ: when you have to register to own a knife.
[1115.62] NJ: Yeah.
[1116.1] NJ: Good point.
[1116.66] Frank: That's a very good point.
[1117.86] Frank: Yeah, it's...
[1119.38] Jack: It could be worse though,
[1120.5] Jack: because what's going on with America with the SBIA?
[1123.94] Frank: Oh, God.
[1125.62] Andy: It's all proposed though, isn't it?
[1127.14] Frank: I want it to just be proposed.
[1130.1] Frank: Andy has a very good point.
[1131.62] Frank: So, these are proposals
[1133.38] Frank: and they need commenting on now.
[1135.46] Frank: We were in this same position three years ago,
[1140.74] Frank: three or four years ago,
[1142.5] Frank: when the first ERZ proposals came out,
[1145.22] Frank: they were nuts.
[1147.06] Frank: They have been watered down heavily
[1149.54] Frank: to get to the point where we are.
[1150.74] Frank: And that hasn't just been a case of people going,
[1153.54] Frank: ah, by the way, those are stupid rules.
[1155.54] Frank: That's been by the organisations,
[1157.22] Frank: BMFA, the Royal Aeronautical Society, FPVUK,
[1163.06] Frank: all sitting down with the CAA,
[1164.74] Frank: all sitting down with the ARZR,
[1166.74] Frank: and there's been a lot of work
[1167.94] Frank: to get them from where they were
[1169.62] Frank: to where they are now.
[1170.66] Frank: Like, if you're not happy
[1171.94] Frank: with having to pay £9
[1173.38] Frank: and put your name on a list,
[1174.82] Frank: you would not be...
[1176.5] Frank: You'd have been having a meltdown
[1178.66] Frank: of what they were
[1179.3] Frank: when they were first proposed.
[1181.06] Frank: So, having a look at
[1182.18] Frank: what the FAA is currently proposing,
[1184.1] Frank: which is something like $5 a model per month
[1188.34] Frank: for...
[1188.82] Frank: Ridiculous.
[1189.22] Frank: With a speed restriction.
[1190.42] Frank: A little cracker.
[1192.66] Frank: It's absolutely crazy.
[1195.46] Frank: It's very, from my point of view,
[1198.26] Frank: it's very clearly designed
[1200.1] Frank: to get people...
[1202.9] Frank: Just, you know, if you are a hobbyist,
[1205.06] Frank: you go to your model field
[1206.66] Frank: and that's where you fly
[1208.1] Frank: and you don't fly anywhere else.
[1210.74] Frank: Yeah, we're going to build a cage.
[1212.26] Jack: We're going to put you in it.
[1213.86] Frank: Commercial, you pay out the arse
[1216.9] Frank: to get this, to be able to fly anywhere else.
[1220.5] Frank: That's basically the current proposal.
[1221.86] Frank: That's like it doesn't go there.
[1223.14] Frank: We've got five years to fight it
[1224.9] Frank: and say stuff differently.
[1227.38] Frank: If you're lucky.
[1229.86] Frank: They're looking to get this in 2023.
[1234.42] Frank: So, that's not a lot of time really.
[1237.3] Frank: It took five years to fight
[1238.98] Frank: our rules back to where they are.
[1241.54] Frank: Right, let's start the...
[1242.34] Frank: We've got a lot less time in America
[1244.02] Frank: with the FAA rules
[1245.3] Frank: and they're already set up.
[1246.66] Frank: They've already got a registration system.
[1248.58] Frank: They've already got people
[1249.7] Frank: that are working full-time
[1251.94] Frank: on drones in the regulations.
[1254.66] Frank: So, if you're in America,
[1258.66] Frank: dig out all of the stuff on the FAA.
[1260.42] Frank: Comment on it now.
[1262.1] Frank: Get your email, your local politician.
[1265.54] Frank: I don't know how American politics works.
[1267.38] Frank: You deal with it.
[1267.86] Jack: We don't know Trump.
[1270.42] Frank: Probably don't do that.
[1272.02] Frank: I mean, you can do that.
[1272.9] Frank: But, I mean, that's...
[1273.3] Frank: You're probably reviving,
[1274.5] Frank: farting in the wind I think.
[1277.86] Jack: Surely they've wrestled
[1278.98] Jack: the phone off in by now.
[1281.94] Frank: I don't think so, no.
[1283.3] Frank: But, yeah, if you're in America,
[1285.3] Frank: deal with that
[1285.94] Frank: because that's going to come over here
[1287.22] Frank: in a bit, I'm sure.
[1289.22] Frank: If you look at Germany's rules,
[1290.58] Frank: they're actually quite similar
[1292.74] Frank: in what they're already doing,
[1294.34] Frank: which is pushing a lot of people
[1295.62] Frank: to model flying sites
[1296.9] Frank: and making it quite difficult
[1298.02] Frank: to fly outside of there.
[1299.62] Frank: So, I am quite worried
[1300.74] Frank: that it's going to come over here.
[1302.5] Frank: But, for the moment,
[1303.7] Frank: it doesn't seem to be
[1304.9] Frank: too much of a whiff of that.
[1305.86] Frank: I think that's been snapped out
[1307.14] Frank: in the UK as a suggestion.
[1309.54] Frank: Andy's going to pass me
[1310.58] Frank: on my B-shirt soon anyway.
[1312.1] Frank: Am I really?
[1313.94] Jack: I was the joining of the club.
[1316.58] Jack: We already asked you, haven't we?
[1318.58] Jack: Can we ask you last week?
[1319.46] Jack: I can't remember.
[1320.1] Andy: But, yeah, it went well.
[1322.1] Andy: Yeah, I hope to do more fixed-wing stuff
[1324.18] Andy: and just have more space in general.
[1325.86] Andy: So, I joined a local club
[1328.34] Andy: and, yeah, way more space.
[1330.18] Andy: Lots of trees and stuff
[1331.94] Andy: to fly around.
[1332.58] Jack: I was already wearing socks
[1334.26] Jack: above the nay and...
[1336.1] Andy: Yeah, sandals, white socks.
[1339.06] Jack: Trophie socks.
[1340.02] Jack: Trophie, yeah.
[1341.06] Andy: Champion, yeah.
[1343.3] Andy: No, it was good.
[1344.26] Andy: And I've been in clubs before
[1346.18] Andy: and it's just, you know,
[1348.26] Andy: I think it's good to sort of, like,
[1351.46] Andy: learn off people in clubs
[1352.66] Andy: and stuff as well.
[1353.7] Andy: Because it's all very difficult
[1355.7] Andy: for people to, you know...
[1357.78] Jack: What do you mean, Albert Kim?
[1359.46] Jack: It's an Indian club.
[1360.34] Jack: You won't learn anything.
[1362.42] NJ: Was part of the test
[1363.86] NJ: to join the club
[1364.98] NJ: a 40-minute chat
[1366.18] NJ: on two-strag oil mixture?
[1369.94] Andy: No, it wasn't, funnily enough.
[1371.46] Andy: No, no.
[1372.74] Andy: I think the people
[1374.66] Andy: who have been doing it for years
[1375.62] Andy: have converted to electric as well.
[1378.42] Andy: Mainly because of the noise
[1380.02] Andy: and that oil.
[1380.58] Jack: That's very forward-thinking.
[1381.54] Jack: Anyway, and Jane, how was rehab anyway?
[1385.78] Jack: What's it like to be out?
[1386.74] Andy: It's a question from Richard Warwick.
[1389.54] Andy: A question from Richard Warwick.
[1391.7] NJ: How's the guitar pick going in?
[1393.62] NJ: It's going very good.
[1394.58] NJ: We have sent the final files
[1396.5] NJ: off to Armatan
[1397.7] NJ: and we're just waiting for them
[1399.38] NJ: to cut the carbon,
[1400.74] NJ: send it back to us.
[1401.54] NJ: The rest of the components
[1403.3] NJ: of the retail kit
[1405.06] NJ: pretty much in place now.
[1407.46] NJ: So yeah, it should be available soon.
[1410.82] NJ: I can't say any prior date.
[1413.3] NJ: Give us a little wiggle.
[1415.06] Frank: You've got one here, isn't it?
[1416.02] Frank: Yeah, I've got one here.
[1416.98] Frank: Can you?
[1417.46] Frank: Go with it for a bit.
[1419.3] Frank: Right, I'll show you.
[1422.98] Jack: It's nice to have N.J. back.
[1424.5] Jack: It's great.
[1425.06] Jack: I thought he absolutely hated it.
[1426.5] Jack: I think he's just you.
[1428.66] Jack: It doesn't hate any others.
[1429.78] Frank: Because you're leaving
[1430.74] Frank: and leaving us to go do some silver smithings.
[1433.86] Jack: Oh yeah, well, I've got to go to rehab.
[1438.74] Andy: How long have you announced
[1440.58] Andy: that to the viewers?
[1441.7] Andy: Jack's going to be leaving for a while.
[1443.78] Jack: Yeah, I don't know.
[1446.42] Jack: Oh yeah, I don't know how long.
[1449.62] Jack: You know, I might not be able
[1450.74] Jack: to work something out.
[1451.46] Jack: I might be able to leave early.
[1453.7] Jack: So I don't know
[1455.06] Jack: because I haven't had any actual course details.
[1459.62] Frank: So you're going on a course.
[1460.42] Frank: Jack's going on a course.
[1462.18] Jack: Yeah.
[1462.9] Frank: Yeah, no comments.
[1465.06] Andy: It's not a community service, is it?
[1466.82] Andy: No, not yet, anyway.
[1468.66] Andy: Not yet.
[1469.94] Andy: Could end up in community service.
[1471.7] NJ: Right, so here it is in its current form.
[1474.5] NJ: We're pretty happy with the colour scheme.
[1476.02] NJ: It's got a lot.
[1477.38] NJ: It's not got enough blades.
[1478.42] NJ: Example A, things very inappropriate
[1480.74] NJ: to fly in indoor spaces.
[1482.42] Jack: Don't forget, that's only not one rotor
[1484.9] Jack: for lift, so it doesn't need to be registered.
[1487.22] NJ: Well, it is technically a multi-rotor.
[1489.38] NJ: If you turn it sideways,
[1490.5] NJ: that is kind of providing some lift.
[1492.58] NJ: If you tick top.
[1493.46] NJ: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[1495.62] NJ: Yes, this is pretty much final prototype.
[1499.3] NJ: How close are we going to have to get here?
[1500.98] NJ: Yeah, you can see that there.
[1502.34] NJ: Yeah, about there.
[1503.7] NJ: So we're fairly close.
[1505.54] Jack: But you have to talk down to the mic.
[1512.02] NJ: Yeah, so we're pretty much there with that,
[1514.98] NJ: too fast for indoors.
[1516.18] NJ: Yeah, I think you could run it on 2S,
[1519.38] NJ: but really it's 3S focused.
[1521.22] NJ: So if this is more of an outdoor,
[1524.02] NJ: you could run indoors.
[1524.98] Andy: It's meant to be battling all of these regulations
[1528.18] Andy: so that you don't have to jump through these.
[1530.74] Andy: Well, until July.
[1531.62] Jack: The regulators won't even know it exists.
[1534.1] NJ: Yeah, we are looking at an HD version of this as well.
[1537.38] NJ: That's in development.
[1538.74] NJ: But even with this, with the Diamond BTX,
[1542.9] NJ: 3S, 450 milliamp, 75C,
[1546.34] NJ: that's still just over 100 grams all up weight.
[1549.62] NJ: So yes, well under the rig.
[1552.58] NJ: Very nice.
[1553.54] NJ: Excellent.
[1554.58] NJ: Looks lovely.
[1555.38] NJ: Yeah, should be good.
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[1583.46] Frank: What else is there?
[1585.14] Frank: Tony, do you want to talk us through your quads
[1588.58] Frank: that you were terrorizing us with?
[1590.34] Jack: Where did you get that thing from?
[1592.34] Jack: I thought it was from someone, obviously.
[1594.18] Frank: Yeah.
[1595.06] Frank: Is it the i5 one?
[1596.58] Frank: You hold that one, that's the camera.
[1598.18] Frank: Talk us through it.
[1600.9] Frank: I can see it from here.
[1602.02] Frank: The arthritis.
[1602.66] Frank: He told MJ to go show.
[1604.1] Frank: Yeah, but MJ's got a little one.
[1610.66] Jack: Oh, the retro rates have been somewhere.
[1613.54] Andy: What have they been up to?
[1614.82] Andy: What do you think?
[1615.62] Andy: I'm sneaking in.
[1616.82] Andy: Oh, right, okay.
[1619.22] Frank: I don't know what to say.
[1620.26] Frank: I'll throw it in here and it caused a disturbance.
[1624.58] Frank: I think that's putting it lightly.
[1627.06] Frank: It was mildly terrifying.
[1628.98] Frank: But it's very loud and it flies like it looks like it's really hard to fly.
[1634.34] Andy: I think you were thanked for blowing a lot of the dust off a lot of the shelves
[1637.7] Andy: that haven't been touched for a few months.
[1639.3] Andy: Yes, I did do that.
[1641.86] Andy: Not so much all of the bags that were flying up in the air that were on the tables.
[1646.5] Frank: Should make a nice video though, like a couple of minutes later.
[1648.58] Frank: Yeah, I look forward to that.
[1650.66] Jack: What's the final build, says Dave Story, to MJ.
[1655.94] Jack: Yeah, I think that's to you, enjoy.
[1657.3] Andy: What's the final build, as in what?
[1658.82] NJ: The price or...
[1660.74] NJ: Yeah, what's the question about the final build?
[1663.7] NJ: What do I...
[1664.18] NJ: Yeah, you'll have to ask again.
[1666.9] NJ: Give me some context.
[1668.42] NJ: That's very close to final build, if that's what you're asking.
[1672.82] NJ: But yeah, we've made a slight modification to the arm ends,
[1678.5] NJ: just to toughen them up a little bit, but this is pretty much it.
[1681.78] NJ: And it's flying great.
[1682.74] NJ: I bet it does.
[1685.54] NJ: Yeah, it's a little beast.
[1687.54] Jack: Has Jenny discovered why they all smell nice?
[1696.26] Frank: Has anyone got any New Year's resolutions?
[1699.22] Frank: Ah, not this again.
[1700.34] Frank: FPV related or otherwise.
[1702.18] Jack: Try to tolerate Tony a bit more.
[1705.06] Andy: You say that every single year.
[1706.74] Andy: Yeah, I know, yeah, true.
[1707.3] Andy: Because by the third year in a row, try to...
[1709.54] Andy: Well, he's still here, so you haven't killed each other.
[1711.3] Andy: Yeah, I suppose.
[1712.26] Frank: FPV related.
[1715.22] Andy: I don't think you should have a New Year's resolution
[1717.54] Andy: because it puts pressure and you never end up doing it, you know.
[1720.9] Frank: I think I'm going to...
[1723.94] Frank: Try to destroy...
[1727.46] Frank: And then I'm going to go with HD with the goggles and stuff.
[1730.02] Frank: Yeah, you'd be costing people lots of money, haven't you?
[1733.06] Jack: I was horrified how good that looks.
[1735.86] Andy: Yeah, I should have pulled the camera out because,
[1739.54] Andy: yeah, it was the classic reaction of, oh, wow, yeah.
[1743.22] Andy: What have we...
[1744.02] Andy: I think you said, what are we doing here?
[1747.86] Frank: So what we're talking about here, just to clarify,
[1750.26] Frank: we've got Andy to bring along his DJI HD FPV system.
[1755.94] Frank: So we've been passing that around to everyone
[1758.42] Frank: and costing them lots of money.
[1760.42] Frank: So as soon as you put them on, you go, I'm going to buy it.
[1763.3] Andy: That's the problem.
[1764.1] Andy: You say, you know, it's like everybody's like,
[1766.82] Andy: don't look through them if you don't want to see it kind of thing.
[1771.46] Jack: Could you imagine, like, the smartest person
[1774.9] Jack: would have been, ordered a load of them, went to anywhere,
[1779.3] Jack: like any meetup, went, have a look at these,
[1781.94] Jack: and then just have like a little contact.
[1788.98] Andy: I think, yeah, that system just sells itself, I think.
[1792.1] Andy: And it just improves as well.
[1793.3] Andy: I think there's an on-screen display,
[1795.62] Andy: full bit of light on-screen display.
[1797.14] Andy: I think of that working.
[1798.02] Andy: I believe, yeah.
[1798.82] Andy: Yeah, KISS has as well now.
[1800.58] Andy: Has KISS as well.
[1801.38] Frank: Is the iNav one working?
[1803.54] Frank: I know Fraser in the chat wants the iNav one working
[1806.82] Frank: and he won't buy it until that's working.
[1808.66] Frank: But I know also his VRX is dying, so he needs to get something soon.
[1812.1] Andy: I would say Josh just did a video on it all, didn't he?
[1814.66] Andy: No, I don't.
[1815.38] Frank: So what is the price? UK price?
[1818.58] Frank: He's doing one?
[1819.7] Frank: Yeah, I like the kit, doesn't it?
[1821.3] Andy: Zero FPV.
[1822.26] Jack: What's up?
[1823.46] Andy: I did a video on how the cheapest that you can do it,
[1826.98] Andy: and it came to us about, it came to the same price as some HDOs,
[1832.02] Andy: a rapid fire, and like VTX camera.
[1836.02] Andy: It came to the same price as a top-end analog rig, basically.
[1839.06] Frank: So I thought the goggles were like five, and then the rest was one.
[1842.98] Frank: Didn't they actually get the goggles on their own?
[1845.22] Andy: Yeah.
[1845.7] Andy: I thought they can.
[1846.18] Andy: If you go on the DJI store, I think, are they 399?
[1849.86] Andy: Something like that.
[1850.5] Andy: So 400 quid.
[1852.9] Andy: And then 175 for the...
[1855.46] Andy: $150.
[1856.42] Andy: $150, $175.
[1858.5] Andy: Well, it may have changed, hasn't it?
[1859.86] Frank: So for about 650 quid UK, you can apply HD.
[1864.58] NJ: Yeah.
[1864.9] NJ: Yeah, I got mine on deal from BG, and that was about 600.
[1870.26] NJ: You got a good deal.
[1871.22] NJ: But mine was about 600 with two air units.
[1873.94] NJ: That's for two air units.
[1874.98] NJ: Yeah, so the deals are there.
[1876.42] NJ: You just have to have a good hump for them.
[1879.14] Frank: It's having that Cinewook HD, isn't it, brilliant?
[1883.78] Frank: Yeah, well, I mean, you could drop the GoPro if you want.
[1886.74] Frank: Yeah, flying indoors, it's just...
[1888.18] Frank: Yeah, for sure.
[1890.98] Jack: You've got to wonder, though, how long before the V2 comes out.
[1896.18] Andy: Yeah, it's been out for a while now.
[1899.06] Andy: And I ask them, and they say, oh, we cannot divulge that kind of insight.
[1904.18] Andy: But the fact that they're still working on getting this one up to scratch.
[1909.78] Andy: They usually work on a yearly cycle.
[1911.54] Andy: So when did it come out?
[1912.58] Andy: It was about September, was it?
[1922.02] Andy: Someone's tiny whoops just died, I think.
[1925.14] Andy: What are you doing, Andy?
[1926.1] Jack: About the transmitter.
[1927.3] Jack: I have a crappy radio, and I'm thinking about upgrading it.
[1931.86] Andy: Because Andy put in the feed of the tiny whoops.
[1936.66] Andy: What was the question, Jack?
[1937.78] Andy: Sorry.
[1938.58] Jack: Is it worth getting the DJI...
[1942.74] Jack: The transmitter?
[1945.86] Andy: Say again, what was the question?
[1947.14] Frank: You don't need to buy the transmitter, do you?
[1948.98] Frank: What are we talking about?
[1950.82] Frank: The DJI on stuff.
[1951.94] Andy: Someone's saying...
[1952.5] Andy: You don't need to buy it.
[1953.46] Andy: No, no, no, I don't know what I'm saying.
[1954.74] Andy: What's the fly you're doing?
[1955.54] Andy: Right, listen.
[1956.26] Jack: No, no, no, go for it.
[1957.3] Jack: Look, FX node says, right, what about the transmitter?
[1962.58] Jack: I have a crappy radio, and I'm thinking about the upgrade.
[1967.06] Jack: Or is it?
[1968.58] Jack: Probably cramp.
[1970.9] Andy: Well, they're all right.
[1971.94] Jack: Have you touched it?
[1973.14] Jack: Yeah, you must have.
[1974.18] Andy: The thing about the transmitter, there's one big downside about the transmitter.
[1978.9] Andy: DJI made it.
[1981.7] Andy: No, that's a good thing that they did.
[1983.54] Andy: I think it's amazing that they even considered entering our sector of the hobby.
[1987.54] Andy: That's my perspective on it.
[1988.98] Andy: Because if not, there'd have been no progression, which that hasn't been for a while.
[1995.14] Jack: Zero, we're not lucky we're leaving the EU,
[1997.14] Jack: because it means then it's impossible for us to ship anything to us.
[2000.42] Jack: That's true.
[2001.3] Jack: And it will just...
[2002.42] Jack: We'll be like, we'll be like...
[2005.14] Andy: You have to have any...
[2006.18] Jack: Was it Colombia who got like, you know, just having to repair everything and stuff,
[2011.38] Jack: and ostrich knives by the America, and we couldn't get anything in or out.
[2018.42] NJ: I was just telling Gav, we've got the feeds live, so they'll do some flying.
[2022.34] NJ: Yeah.
[2022.82] NJ: Oh, cool.
[2023.3] NJ: See the little track that we've been...
[2024.58] NJ: Actually, you better see in here.
[2025.7] Frank: It's flying.
[2026.34] Frank: We're dreaming.
[2027.46] Frank: Yeah.
[2028.1] Frank: Yeah, you're live.
[2028.82] Frank: Oh, okay.
[2029.78] Frank: Live on the interwebs.
[2031.3] Frank: What channel are you on?
[2033.06] Frank: Actually, I can see it up on there, can't I?
[2035.78] Andy: F4.
[2038.82] Andy: No, the transmitter does have...
[2040.98] Jack: I'm so sorry.
[2042.9] Jack: Keep yawning.
[2043.86] Jack: I'm not sure.
[2044.34] Jack: Johnny slapped me about a bit.
[2048.02] Jack: Oh, my God.
[2049.3] Jack: I've been drinking soda and everything.
[2052.18] Jack: Wow, that's all.
[2053.14] Jack: It's empty anyway.
[2054.9] Frank: Right, is that streaming?
[2057.3] Andy: Am I doing the track so you can see?
[2059.54] Andy: Yeah.
[2060.18] Jack: Frank said I could go after nine.
[2064.5] Andy: To answer the question, there's one flaw with the transmitter,
[2067.06] Andy: and that is that it runs on the same frequency, so 5.8, as the video feed and everything.
[2074.58] Andy: So if somebody plugs in and you lose your video feed, you'll also lose your control.
[2079.62] Andy: Yeah, that's not ideal.
[2081.46] Andy: But you could say, on the other hand, if you were at the other side of the field,
[2087.14] Andy: you wouldn't be able to get it back anyways, so...
[2089.38] NJ: Oh, there we go.
[2089.94] NJ: We've got a tool going on now.
[2092.74] Jack: Yeah.
[2093.46] Jack: Are you coming to America brackets June?
[2099.06] Jack: Is Canada in the EU?
[2100.98] Jack: No.
[2103.06] Jack: No, but it is part of the Commonwealth.
[2105.7] Jack: Is that right?
[2107.38] Jack: That's reasonable.
[2110.66] Frank: I've got the Queen on the money on the...
[2113.38] Frank: Yeah.
[2113.7] Frank: Doesn't really have any impact on the thing though, does it?
[2116.26] Frank: Queen's on everything now, isn't she?
[2117.78] Frank: No.
[2118.02] Frank: He gets about a bit Netflix.
[2119.78] Frank: That's treason.
[2122.82] Andy: I'm drunk and quartered for that.
[2124.34] Jack: Are you coming to America in June?
[2126.58] Jack: I think that's you.
[2128.42] Jack: You are an international...
[2130.42] Jack: A man of mystery.
[2131.78] Jack: No.
[2135.14] Jack: Someone donated a tenner, but they didn't choose who to whack it into.
[2139.06] Frank: Winston.
[2139.7] NJ: There's a note for landing on Andy's hat.
[2142.18] NJ: Ah, yeah, go for that.
[2144.1] NJ: Landing on Andy's hat.
[2146.1] NJ: On the back.
[2146.74] Jack: I want to try and catch you in my mouth.
[2150.82] NJ: Sorry, Jack.
[2152.82] Andy: Was that to me or to Logie?
[2157.06] Andy: Come on, I'm going to...
[2158.34] Andy: No, no, it's Frank's.
[2160.34] Jack: No, he's gone.
[2160.82] Jack: Forward, forward, forward.
[2164.26] Jack: Oh, yep.
[2169.06] Frank: Oh, look.
[2169.7] Frank: Oh, this double O sign didn't really get a straight answer.
[2172.58] Frank: Are you bringing LDO to 2020 IO?
[2174.98] Frank: Oh, I want to go.
[2177.46] Frank: Can do.
[2177.86] NJ: Who won?
[2178.58] Frank: What is that?
[2179.46] Frank: What is that?
[2179.94] Frank: Multi-GPIO.
[2181.22] Frank: See, carry kitten in the chat.
[2187.22] Frank: So Multi-GPIO have about six different...
[2190.74] Frank: Someone flying to Clive, please.
[2192.5] Frank: ... tracks that they run...
[2195.14] Frank: Yeah, Clive, you got to sit here, mate.
[2196.82] Frank: And they've got a QR system, and you tag in and out
[2200.34] Frank: and into different races and...
[2202.34] Frank: That sounds interesting.
[2203.06] Frank: Sorry about going.
[2204.02] Frank: Who would like to do that?
[2204.9] Frank: I'd go.
[2205.86] Jack: We can do it.
[2206.58] Jack: If you want to budge it in, figure it out.
[2208.18] Frank: I saw...
[2211.78] Frank: Why aren't you here?
[2213.62] Frank: I saw Miss Creature's feeds from it.
[2215.62] Frank: We've got a donation to someone to fly.
[2217.94] Frank: And full of mosquitoes and things.
[2220.5] Frank: And that's not my...
[2221.54] Frank: Babbies cry up.
[2222.5] Andy: No.
[2224.26] Andy: Well, I'd like to go.
[2226.02] Andy: Maybe.
[2227.06] NJ: Gav do the other day, like...
[2229.14] Andy: Just set him up.
[2231.46] NJ: Donation orders.
[2233.38] Jack: Well, when Clive comes back...
[2236.26] Andy: Where is Clive?
[2237.3] Andy: Has he done a runner?
[2240.9] Frank: Someone's donating to fly into your face.
[2243.7] Frank: Who, me?
[2244.34] Frank: Find your...
[2245.14] Frank: Clive.
[2246.74] Frank: Yes.
[2249.62] Jack: You got me?
[2250.1] Andy: I didn't tell him.
[2254.1] Andy: Sit up.
[2255.38] NJ: Take a seat.
[2256.42] Frank: It's Clive from the tray, everyone.
[2258.34] NJ: Thanks so much, Ben.
[2260.82] Frank: There you go, Ben.
[2265.47] Jack: Oh, that really pissed out.
[2269.71] Jack: Sit back down, Clive.
[2272.43] Jack: I wasn't your face, mate.
[2275.15] NJ: Well, he does say just to fly into Clive's face.
[2277.79] Andy: I think that was a filter.
[2279.63] Andy: Jack just annoyed that everyone's got full power to it.
[2282.43] Andy: I know.
[2282.91] Frank: Clive says it's from whoops to megaplast.
[2286.11] Frank: Yeah, I think we should go, Jack.
[2289.23] Frank: Have a nice trip to America.
[2290.51] Jack: I'm delicious to mosquitoes, though.
[2293.47] Jack: That's the only pro...
[2294.51] Jack: Like, I am.
[2296.03] Frank: Well, there is a lot of you to get all faced on.
[2298.75] Jack: Yeah, I am like...
[2301.55] Jack: You know, an American to fasten you.
[2305.47] Jack: Subscriptions.
[2307.31] Frank: So, trying to think of something else.
[2310.91] Frank: I mean, we've had the FPV crawlers,
[2312.67] Frank: and you've had your Interceptor going down, right?
[2315.39] Andy: Yeah, yeah.
[2316.27] Andy: I think, you know, talk, like, speaking of the future and stuff,
[2319.47] Andy: I definitely think into 2020, that's where things will...
[2323.79] Andy: I think we'll see more ground-based and different types of RC.
[2327.63] Andy: I mean, the Interceptor is a...
[2329.79] Andy: It just came out of nowhere.
[2331.07] Andy: You know, nobody asked for it.
[2332.43] Andy: It just...
[2333.07] Andy: I think, you know, people saw...
[2334.99] Andy: And I think DJI have filed for a ground-based car.
[2338.35] NJ: Yeah, yeah.
[2338.91] NJ: Like, this painting looks very interesting.
[2340.43] NJ: Yes, yes.
[2341.23] NJ: Just a bit.
[2341.79] NJ: Yes, I know.
[2342.83] NJ: I'm moving over.
[2344.43] NJ: Yeah, it does.
[2344.99] NJ: I think...
[2345.63] NJ: Yeah, like, the Mars.
[2346.75] Frank: I just donated to Fly Into Tony.
[2351.07] Frank: Didn't say Fly Into Tony.
[2351.95] Jack: Dave?
[2352.83] Jack: Dave?
[2353.23] Frank: No, not into my face.
[2354.75] Jack: Dave, can you fly into Tony's face really far?
[2357.55] Jack: Oh, he's just taught in your town.
[2359.55] Jack: He's taught in your...
[2360.59] Jack: Gav?
[2361.07] Frank: Okay.
[2361.55] Frank: Gav?
[2362.03] Jack: Gav?
[2363.71] Jack: Right into his face.
[2365.55] Frank: Oh, no, no, no, no!
[2367.07] Jack: Close your eyes, Tony.
[2369.87] Jack: That is the best £1.99 I've ever spent.
[2376.27] Andy: I so wish I was filming that.
[2377.95] Andy: That was amazing.
[2379.55] Andy: I tell you what, that...
[2380.83] Andy: That in slow-mo would look great.
[2382.27] Frank: Oh, I felt it was in slow-mo for me.
[2384.83] Andy: Should I try and get a slow-mo of it?
[2387.79] Frank: No, I'm not doing it again.
[2388.99] Jack: Oh, no.
[2389.79] Jack: Donate again.
[2390.83] Jack: DJI, donate, mate.
[2392.19] Jack: Just put it back on there.
[2394.59] NJ: Can I just try a fiver on you?
[2396.43] NJ: There you go.
[2396.99] NJ: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2398.11] Jack: Super chat.
[2399.07] Jack: Select who you want.
[2399.95] Andy: It feels a bit like prostitution, this whole thing.
[2403.87] Jack: We are donating to ourselves.
[2407.63] UNKNOWN: That's true.
[2408.67] Frank: I would do that.
[2409.31] Frank: I would do that.
[2409.39] Frank: I would do that.
[2409.87] Frank: I would do that.
[2410.35] Frank: I would do that.
[2414.83] Jack: Gav, you can have one of my batteries if you want.
[2417.87] Andy: Dave's having a good day, you know.
[2419.87] Andy: Oh, Dave, don't let me down.
[2422.19] Andy: Right, I've got slow-motion going on here.
[2425.39] Frank: No-one's donating to, no, that's not happening.
[2428.67] Jack: No, I don't know, DJI has.
[2429.63] Jack: I don't know what you're on about.
[2431.39] Andy: Right, got slow-motion going.
[2433.07] Frank: I'm applying to me again.
[2435.15] Jack: No, all the way from the back.
[2436.27] Frank: I need some glasses.
[2437.31] Frank: Wait, wait, wait.
[2438.19] Jack: I need to get my slow-mo up.
[2439.31] Jack: Hold on.
[2440.99] Frank: Now I look like, oh my God, you're blind.
[2443.79] NJ: So, here we go.
[2444.35] NJ: I'm starting a phone here, yeah?
[2445.23] NJ: Where's slow-mo on this?
[2445.95] NJ: Ready?
[2447.95] NJ: Where are you?
[2448.67] Frank: Oh, my God, I can see two.
[2452.67] Frank: Right, it's pretty painful.
[2455.63] Frank: Oh, God.
[2456.35] Frank: Oh, that hurt, that one.
[2459.87] NJ: All right, hold on.
[2461.39] NJ: Okay, I'm super slow, mate.
[2462.43] NJ: Hold on.
[2463.39] Frank: I'm doing it, King.
[2465.31] NJ: I'll donate you, though.
[2466.27] NJ: I'll get my money's worth.
[2467.15] NJ: He's donated.
[2469.87] Jack: Do you want more glasses again?
[2472.11] Frank: All right.
[2472.91] Frank: You're only showing your eyes, Tony.
[2475.15] Frank: It's not the same.
[2476.03] Andy: Save the quiet on the floor.
[2478.43] Andy: No, not before him.
[2480.03] Andy: Yeah, here we go.
[2481.55] NJ: All right, let's do it.
[2484.11] Andy: Oh, that's scary.
[2486.11] Frank: Oh, Tony.
[2493.55] Frank: Right, stop donations.
[2495.07] Frank: End screen.
[2497.07] Jack: I'll tell you what.
[2497.71] Jack: Your shave head is like Velcro because it was impossible to get out.
[2502.27] Frank: No, you've just tried to see me trying to put jumpers on.
[2506.83] Frank: Oh, that's enough.
[2507.63] Frank: I was asking for a rescue down there, I think.
[2511.07] Frank: Right, but in terms of...
[2516.99] Jack: Oh, Tim says, what am I doing?
[2518.99] Frank: In terms of the overall goal of today of getting a team game going,
[2524.43] Frank: this isn't quite how I imagined it ending up.
[2528.19] Andy: Still a team game.
[2529.07] Andy: You are.
[2529.55] Andy: Still a team game.
[2530.43] Andy: And, you know, it became sort of a betting game in the end as well.
[2534.11] Frank: But we did eventually have a game.
[2538.11] Frank: I think it began as a game.
[2540.19] Frank: Yeah.
[2540.91] Frank: N.J. and Andy won 3-0 to...
[2544.03] Frank: No, you got one.
[2545.31] Frank: You got one?
[2545.87] Jack: Yeah.
[2548.03] Jack: You did get one.
[2549.39] Jack: I mean, it drifted by itself.
[2552.91] Andy: I didn't count that one, can I just say, but fair enough.
[2555.31] Andy: I'll let you have it.
[2557.39] Frank: I think there's something to it.
[2559.79] Frank: I think it needs a bit more working on.
[2561.79] Frank: I think maybe it should be on the ground rather than on a table.
[2566.91] Andy: I think we can agree we had a lot of fun doing it though, right?
[2570.27] Andy: Yeah.
[2570.51] Andy: It was fun.
[2571.95] Frank: I think weighted down seemed to work better.
[2574.67] NJ: Yeah, I think so.
[2575.63] Frank: Oh, Michael Brenda's in the chat.
[2577.23] NJ: Yeah, the underlying goal is to try and get this to be
[2579.55] NJ: Rocket League with Jones as well.
[2581.15] Frank: Yeah.
[2581.63] Frank: Steve Collins said this is the best episode ever.
[2585.79] Andy: They're always the best when we get together, I think.
[2587.95] Andy: Yeah.
[2588.27] Andy: I thought you were going to say when we get abusive.
[2592.27] Jack: Who do you want to get flown into?
[2594.43] Jack: N.J. hasn't had one yet.
[2597.63] Jack: Just saying.
[2598.27] Andy: Does N.J. deserve one as well?
[2599.95] Andy: You know how much this face is enjoying.
[2603.23] NJ: It is, isn't it?
[2604.67] NJ: There'll literally be a lawyer come running up the stairs.
[2606.67] Jack: I know.
[2609.55] Jack: Are you signing the signing in sheet?
[2611.47] NJ: And then I did your signature.
[2614.27] Jack: I was like, that's worth money now.
[2619.39] Frank: Double A wants to know how do people play if they want to.
[2625.55] Frank: If they want to play the team game at home.
[2628.75] Frank: So you need.
[2629.87] Andy: You need helium is what you need.
[2633.07] Frank: Helium helps.
[2634.27] Jack: We had a balloon between us to do the outdrive.
[2642.43] NJ: There's one up there.
[2643.07] Andy: What do you mean a balloon?
[2644.27] NJ: This isn't a neutrally buoyant one though, is it?
[2646.91] NJ: No, to make your voice go funny.
[2648.75] Frank: So we had a helium balloon and we weighted it down so we had a bit of ribbon on the bottom
[2656.43] Frank: with a bit of tape and a bit of paper so that we could rip off a bit of paper,
[2659.95] Frank: a little bit more of paper just to get it neutrally buoyant.
[2663.47] Frank: We had a big old workbench with the balloon, the neutrally
[2670.27] Frank: buoyant balloon sat in the middle, just lifting off a little bit.
[2674.91] Frank: And we had two people at each end.
[2682.35] NJ: Hello Tony.
[2692.51] Frank: Just get the pot, bring the bottle.
[2697.63] Andy: I'm so sorry Frank.
[2700.75] Jack: Let's do this properly.
[2705.79] Jack: Fit out the thing you ask.
[2707.07] Frank: Come on, just fuck that.
[2708.67] Jack: Old David asks.
[2711.47] Frank: You will cause some damage to your lungs, thank you that.
[2717.07] Andy: There's another balloon up there.
[2718.27] Jack: No, I just need a blank balloon.
[2720.67] Andy: Oh yeah, this is what we're doing.
[2723.63] Andy: Yeah, there you go.
[2724.91] Frank: So we had that.
[2725.95] Frank: This is a bit too buoyant.
[2727.95] Frank: We had like tape on the bottom as well to weight it down.
[2732.75] Frank: So yeah, we had that kind of sitting in the middle of the table,
[2735.63] Frank: two people at each end flying line of sight with tiny whoops,
[2740.75] Frank: just bashing it to one end of the table or the other.
[2744.11] Frank: If you got it to the other team's sides then and it fell off the table, then you won.
[2747.55] Frank: Then you won, yeah.
[2748.35] NJ: I think some of it's actually on your Insta, isn't it Tony?
[2751.55] NJ: Did you do a story out there?
[2752.59] NJ: Yeah, yeah.
[2752.99] Andy: Oh cool.
[2753.79] Andy: So Tony, watch your Instagram.
[2756.51] Andy: Everyone can go and watch what we're doing.
[2757.95] Andy: I can't remember.
[2758.43] Andy: Is it at my little Tony?
[2759.87] Andy: Isn't it Mountain Bike Tony or something now, isn't it?
[2764.27] Frank: What is it?
[2765.23] Andy: Mount me Tony.
[2766.27] Andy: Isn't it MTV on this one?
[2768.11] Andy: It's not that one, right?
[2768.43] Andy: I'm going to hurt you.
[2771.15] Frank: Jesus, did you say that?
[2772.75] Andy: It's not that kind of podcast, Jack.
[2775.23] Andy: And then we get donations.
[2776.75] Andy: And finally, let's read it out.
[2782.35] Andy: There you go.
[2783.39] Jack: Tone Star underscore FPV underscore TV.
[2788.43] Jack: MTV, what's that?
[2789.87] Frank: Yeah.
[2790.35] Frank: So that's Mike, Tango Bravo.
[2793.87] Frank: Yes.
[2795.47] Frank: Or Mountain Bike, yes.
[2799.55] Frank: Somehow.
[2801.71] Frank: I like FPV and I like Mountain Bike.
[2804.43] Frank: Why not?
[2805.47] Frank: There's things on there.
[2812.11] Frank: You could probably do the same thing with just a regular balloon with regular air.
[2820.67] Frank: But the benefit of doing it this way is that there's a bit in the middle that you can actually
[2824.43] Frank: hit without just immediately sinking to the ground or messing up your flight controller.
[2831.31] Frank: Because turns out flight controllers don't like pushing balloons around.
[2836.83] Jack: Why?
[2837.07] Jack: Because it's trying to react to.
[2838.43] Frank: Because it's yeah, it just gets sucked into the boat.
[2840.67] Frank: Everyone say I like to MC Creations.
[2842.67] Frank: Hey, MC Creations.
[2843.63] Frank: MCs.
[2845.95] Frank: Mr. Fruitcakes is in the chat as well.
[2847.71] Jack: Happy New Year, everyone.
[2849.07] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[2849.71] NJ: Mr. Fruitcakes is that current.
[2851.79] NJ: There's a person on the stage down there.
[2854.91] NJ: Just some random person hiding.
[2856.91] NJ: Someone broke in.
[2858.11] Andy: Oh, I just heard something break.
[2860.59] Jack: Who's who's under the stairs?
[2861.87] NJ: Show us.
[2864.35] Frank: Who's under the stairs?
[2865.31] NJ: He's, he's noogie.
[2868.59] NJ: Oh, don't say things like that.
[2870.43] NJ: I don't want to be mad at it.
[2871.55] NJ: It's the ghost of the hack space.
[2873.87] Frank: Hack space ghost.
[2877.39] Frank: Yeah, I think we should we should try again somewhere.
[2881.31] Frank: Somehow, somewhere.
[2882.51] Jack: Can we do it more than once a year at the beginning of the year and then give up?
[2887.39] Jack: Yeah.
[2888.21] Frank: Um, well, I mean, there is still Mini Airshow.
[2891.81] Jack: Yeah.
[2892.05] Frank: How the hell does that thing?
[2893.65] Frank: I mean, we've got like a ridiculous size tent for that this year.
[2899.01] Frank: Are we allowed to podcast there, though?
[2901.57] Frank: I mean, honestly, I think the whole event is going to be too big to police.
[2906.29] Frank: I think you're going to be able to do whatever you want.
[2908.61] Frank: If you get far enough away from anyone.
[2910.21] Frank: Disclaimer all that.
[2912.05] Frank: So I'm in charge bringing a gun.
[2914.77] Jack: I don't know.
[2916.77] Jack: Not a real gun.
[2918.61] Jack: BB.
[2921.25] Jack: He would never do that.
[2922.61] Jack: Don't say I'm going to go to the vent and I'm going to bring a gun.
[2926.37] Jack: A legal reason.
[2927.89] Frank: Yeah.
[2928.21] Jack: So don't listen to him.
[2931.17] Jack: He's got care.
[2932.13] Frank: I reckon we'll have a fair old space at Mini Airshow in the tent where we can probably
[2938.93] Frank: fly a bunch of tiny whoops.
[2941.65] Frank: FPV might be an issue.
[2944.61] Frank: So I think probably we'll do similar to last year.
[2948.29] Frank: Buy a bunch of the eSheens, get them along and this sort of stuff could be really good.
[2954.69] Frank: I'm hoping we'll get Larry back doing more stuff with the tiny wings and stuff.
[2960.45] Frank: Do you want to fly your wing around?
[2962.53] Jack: My batteries are over there if you want.
[2964.53] Jack: If you want to use one of mine, they're in the charger.
[2969.01] Andy: That's not going to work.
[2970.37] Andy: The dates are ending for Mini Airshow.
[2972.53] Frank: Yeah.
[2973.01] Frank: Mini Airshow is all booked in.
[2976.45] Frank: It's a week later than it was last year because they've moved around.
[2981.89] Frank: Bank holidays.
[2982.93] Frank: Don't worry about it.
[2984.05] Frank: But it's 16th and 17th of May, I believe.
[2987.65] Frank: There's already a link for Richard.
[2989.89] Frank: Thank you, Richard.
[2992.45] Frank: Yeah, minireshow.co.uk.
[2994.93] Frank: That's all happening.
[2996.77] Frank: Admittedly, I get to have a bit of a year off this year.
[3000.93] Frank: So I'm not too involved.
[3003.41] Frank: It's all going ahead without me, which is nice for a change.
[3006.77] Frank: I get to do this instead.
[3009.01] Frank: Get to play.
[3011.25] Frank: Do a bit of flying maybe.
[3012.37] Frank: Yeah, maybe.
[3014.53] Frank: Who is it, George?
[3016.53] Frank: Pop'em are basically going ahead with it.
[3020.21] Frank: So this was kind of how Mini Airshow ended up at Pop'em.
[3023.65] Frank: They wanted to do their own model airshow
[3025.57] Frank: because there used to be a model airshow just down the road.
[3027.89] Frank: That died about 10 years ago.
[3030.85] Frank: And no one at Pop'em was really brave enough to just do it.
[3035.97] Frank: So they gave us space and money to run something
[3040.05] Frank: and it all be on us if it all went wrong, essentially.
[3043.89] Frank: They looked at us and went, oh, that was easy.
[3046.45] Frank: We'll do that.
[3048.13] Frank: So now they're happy running it themselves.
[3052.13] Frank: So Pop'em will probably from next year,
[3055.09] Frank: it will probably just be a Pop'em model airshow.
[3058.29] Frank: And Mini Airshow will reconsider what we do
[3063.41] Frank: because there's still a bunch of volunteers
[3066.05] Frank: all very keen on the FPV community.
[3070.61] Frank: I think it will be a lot harder to incorporate the FPV community
[3074.61] Frank: the way that the Pop'em model airshow is going to have to grow
[3079.01] Frank: in order to pay for itself.
[3080.85] Frank: So I think we're probably going to be looking for
[3082.85] Frank: somewhere a different client where we can sneak off.
[3087.73] Frank: But we've had a lot of support from them.
[3090.21] Frank: We've had a lot of money from them.
[3091.33] Frank: They've made the events happen the past couple of years.
[3095.17] Frank: It's been great having all that space to play with,
[3098.53] Frank: having all the resources to play with.
[3100.61] Frank: We wouldn't have had those marquees.
[3102.21] Frank: We wouldn't have had the power.
[3105.17] Jack: Screams.
[3105.97] Jack: Absolutely.
[3106.53] Jack: Sound.
[3107.41] Frank: We've been able to worry about the interesting things,
[3111.49] Frank: the fun things, getting people on board,
[3113.81] Frank: getting the stuff going on there,
[3115.57] Frank: instead of having to worry about,
[3117.49] Frank: oh, is our cash flow going to work?
[3119.57] Frank: Or are we going to be able to get a marquee on site?
[3123.33] Frank: Are we going to be able to do any of the stuff?
[3125.09] Frank: And we can not worry about the infrastructure
[3127.49] Frank: and actually worry about the events.
[3128.93] Frank: So we've learned a lot.
[3131.25] Frank: And I look forward to doing something somewhere else,
[3135.33] Frank: hopefully a bit more.
[3138.05] Jack: Sorry, stupid.
[3139.89] Frank: Hopefully with a bit more kind of going on.
[3145.3] Frank: All right.
[3145.78] Frank: So I think it's about time to...
[3149.94] Frank: And on that note, and on that note, and on that note.
[3156.9] Frank: Go, Gav.
[3162.87] Frank: I think we'll wrap up and pack up and let everyone go home.
[3168.23] Jack: Yeah.
[3169.03] Jack: Thanks to all our subscribers,
[3171.75] Jack: everyone who donates, and especially our Patreons.
[3176.07] Jack: Happy New Year, everyone.
[3177.43] Jack: Yeah. Happy New Year.
[3178.31] NJ: Happy New Year.
[3178.95] Jack: Thanks to all everyone.
[3180.95] Jack: We miss you, CurryKitten.
[3182.23] Jack: Sorry you're not here.
[3184.07] Jack: Big shout out to...
[3188.31] Jack: MakeMe.
[3188.87] Jack: Is it MakeLabs?
[3191.35] Jack: The MKMakerspace.
[3192.47] Jack: MKMakerspace.
[3193.91] Jack: Jenny for letting us in.
[3195.27] Jack: Andrew Stashank for organizing it.
[3197.83] Jack: Andy RC for actually leaving his house.
[3200.55] Jack: Well done.
[3201.27] Jack: Thank you.
[3202.87] Jack: Tony will follow me to the end of the world because he loves me.
[3206.95] Jack: I just love your jokes.
[3207.83] Jack: Yeah.
[3209.75] Jack: Congratulations on getting out of rehab.
[3214.95] Andy: That's on the internet forever.
[3217.43] Jack: If anyone wants to make a gift for that and send it to me, I will.
[3221.11] Jack: Well, that's over it, cool.
[3222.31] Jack: I'll add that to my special connection.
[3228.07] Andy: Oh, it's your end, guys.
[3230.07] Jack: I'm trying to look live.
[3232.79] Jack: Thank you.
[3233.27] Frank: Oh, that's excellent.
[3234.63] Jack: You just donated a turner in the face.
[3239.27] Jack: Who gets the plane in the face?
[3241.91] Jack: Of course, me, yeah.
[3244.79] Jack: Thank you, and good night.
[3247.91] Frank: Cheers, guys.
[3249.03] Andy: Telemetry last.
[3253.04] UNKNOWN: Where's the stop button gone?