=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 248 ===
Title: LDO 248 - How to Make Videos and Influence People
Recorded: 2020-05-28
Hosts: Andy, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Neil "NJ Tech" Jones, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 2,311
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByscfIfh3CA); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/831214813-letsdroneout-ldo-248-how-to-make-videos-and-influence-people.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello and welcome to Let's Drone Out. The best, well the only UK FPV podcast
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[12.88] Jack: In particular we'd like to thank these guys. Art Faulkner. Mikey Dredd. Wacky Wes. David Powell.
[24.24] Jack: Thank you guys. You're the best. We can edit our podcast. Thank you.
[58.9] Frank: Good evening and welcome to Let's Drone Out.
[62.5] Frank: This week Jack won't be doing the introduction as he is currently presenting to those of you
[69.06] Frank: watching live the results of trying to do something that we haven't quite understood
[76.18] Frank: with his USB audio interface which has resulted in it being a large number of pieces strewn
[82.74] Curry: across his floor. I was present at the time. I can tell you exactly what happened.
[89.54] Curry: I'd love to hear it. Which is we were supposed to be doing some streaming last night as phenomenal
[95.78] Curry: and Jack had this wishy wishy sort of noise going on which resulted in him picking up his USB thing,
[103.38] Curry: saying some choice words and throwing it with force back where it went.
[108.42] Curry: So then he realised he was no longer able to contact me or speak to me. So we had to abort.
[117.22] NJ: Then he realised that his real life save point wasn't working.
[121.38] NJ: Anyone seen the latest? Controls it! Controls it!
[124.82] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah, that was good about us.
[129.7] NJ: Oh well. Oh dear. Sign language Jack. This can be fun.
[133.14] Frank: So we won't have Jack. He can't introduce himself. But this week we have NJ Tech.
[141.22] Frank: Hey everyone, been a while. We have Curry Kitten.
[144.82] Frank: Hello. We have Andy LC.
[148.1] Frank: Good evening. I'm Frank and we might have Tony at some point.
[154.18] TTS: Hello, this is my new voice.
[155.7] Frank: This is going to be even worse.
[160.74] Frank: The kick Jack.
[163.38] AndyRC: Because he's dyslexic, so he's using like a voice to tie it with.
[167.86] AndyRC: But it's just not going to make more sense than his actual what he says.
[175.86] Curry: I did suggest to Jack, if he was going to do this, have some key phrases ready to cut and place.
[180.66] Curry: I can't be looking at you doing this.
[183.86] AndyRC: You need to up the pitch a bit, Jack. It's a little bit low down in the register.
[190.98] AndyRC: Yeah, it's a little bit.
[191.86] TTS: Welcome to LDO.
[200.13] AndyRC: Okay.
[201.57] AndyRC: Can you make him British now?
[209.89] Frank: Oh dear. Right.
[214.61] Frank: And in anticipation of there maybe still not being a huge amount of flying to be done at the moment,
[225.41] Frank: I was very interested to know everyone's different kind of methods or the order
[233.33] Frank: of operations of how they go around putting it together a video.
[236.85] Frank: I was going to throw Jack under the bus and say it's because.
[241.49] TTS: I'm the worst host.
[246.82] TTS: I'm the worst host.
[249.3] AndyRC: He's the worst host.
[250.58] AndyRC: Oh, wow.
[252.9] AndyRC: To be fair, that would be really annoying, isn't it?
[255.06] AndyRC: You've got more, you've got more technology than Stephen Hawking had.
[259.46] AndyRC: So, you know, you should be able to, you know, string a few sentences together at least.
[265.14] AndyRC: Bit of content.
[265.62] TTS: Why am I under the bus?
[270.16] TTS: Why am I?
[271.36] Frank: What? Under the what?
[273.12] Frank: Bus.
[273.84] Frank: I was going to throw Jack under the bus and say he's been sitting on a load of video stuff
[281.6] Frank: on and avoiding making videos because he can't seem to get stuff edited and doesn't want to and
[288.72] Frank: gets a bit of a tizzy.
[290.48] Frank: So, I was going to ask everyone else what their kind of order of operations were.
[296.16] Frank: Whether it was also seeing Jack with Lee doing their video together,
[302.24] Frank: the kind of post and a six online catch up of their two talks and whether they
[311.36] Frank: and sort of seeing how they kind of recorded live and then edited it,
[316.88] Frank: which is kind of how we do audio, but for all your different videos,
[322.32] Frank: how you put things together in terms of, do you put a script together first?
[327.84] Frank: Or do you start filming and work out a script afterwards?
[332.8] Frank: Do you do a video and then fill stuff in in an edit and film stuff to go with a voiceover?
[339.44] Frank: Or how, what order do you do things in is what I'm interested in.
[344.8] Frank: Um, Jack's way through.
[347.44] AndyRC: Jack was pointing, so we'll give him 30 seconds to type what it was that he wanted to say.
[354.0] TTS: Yeah, I hate a no premiere that is not fair and I like to edit and hang out with NRC.
[366.08] AndyRC: Is it just me or is Jack's robot voice a little bit depressed and a little bit calm?
[373.04] Curry: It's more Marvin, the paranoid Android than Stephen Hawking, isn't it?
[378.08] Curry: Same level of I want to die from it.
[384.8] NJ: Say Frank.
[386.96] NJ: If we need robotic in camp, we should see if we can find the voice translator.
[393.04] NJ: That would do it.
[396.0] Frank: Jack, can you say, uh, brain the size of a planet?
[402.78] TTS: C3O was five.
[407.42] NJ: C3O.
[411.74] NJ: You might need to put a full stop after things like that or gap them.
[415.74] NJ: Perhaps it's a learning thing.
[417.02] TTS: We're all learning about how to use brain the size of a planet.
[422.38] NJ: Nice enough.
[426.78] NJ: Okay, uh, he's gonna, he's gonna kick off then.
[429.02] NJ: Curry, what's your, uh,
[430.46] TTS: MJ is XE.
[432.46] TTS: Oh lord.
[433.98] TTS: MJ is XE.
[438.4] Curry: So general product review is, um, I generally film it, me unboxing it.
[446.16] Curry: I use, uh, my little Canon, what is it?
[450.96] Curry: EOS, um, I forgot what it is now.
[453.44] Curry: I've told you, oh, M3, isn't it?
[455.6] Curry: Because it's got a mic input and I can flip the top up.
[459.68] Curry: Um, so I can plug a mic in.
[461.04] Curry: I shove that over the top of my, um, monitor and I can basically do a little
[466.72] Curry: spiel about here I am.
[468.4] Curry: I'm unboxing.
[469.04] Curry: I'm showing you what's in the box.
[470.48] Curry: I don't, I don't script things, but I have a sort of, I suppose I have a formula if you like.
[476.32] Curry: So I will go through and I will unpack it and I will sort of look at it sort of live
[480.4] Curry: as it was my first unboxing.
[483.04] Curry: Um, and if it's like a quad, we'll then go through some beta flight just to see how
[487.76] Curry: it was set up.
[488.56] Curry: At that point, my most important thing to do is to take a photo of it.
[492.72] Curry: Because if I go and fly it, then I'm likely to crash it and explode it.
[497.04] Curry: And then the photo is going to be bits of quad.
[500.08] Curry: So I go in, like I take a couple of shots just for a thumbnail,
[504.32] Curry: just so I've got room to stuff stuffing.
[506.88] Curry: And then it's mostly about, um, I want to get like a bunch of flies flights in if I can.
[513.52] Curry: Um, at that point, I might take my GoPro.
[516.56] Curry: I'll take, uh, my GoPro Hero 4 and this little thing just so I can hold it.
[520.4] Curry: And from Andy RC, his super tip for using GoPros was this little sort of foam condom.
[526.4] Curry: You stick over the top and it really just cut down.
[529.2] Curry: They're called, I found that.
[530.56] Curry: Wind Slayer.
[531.44] AndyRC: Wind Slayer, because I know, I know that because I've just bought one for the Hero 8 and 7.
[537.12] Curry: Oh, that's for the 8.
[538.0] Curry: I'm going to go with foam condom.
[539.76] Curry: I think I like that better.
[541.12] Curry: Yeah.
[541.76] Curry: Yeah. That really cuts down on the noise.
[543.12] Curry: So if you're out in a field, GoPros are terrible.
[546.0] Curry: If you haven't got anything covered in them for making a noise.
[548.08] Curry: I used to use an external microphone,
[550.24] Curry: but the external microphone is particularly bad near a radio and picks up interference.
[555.2] Curry: And so I might do some exterior bits to myself.
[558.48] Curry: And then I use this because it's, it's part of the freeway.
[561.68] Curry: I can just unscrew that.
[563.84] Curry: I've got a little tripod so I can shove that down and I can feel myself flying around and stuff.
[568.4] Curry: And then all I'm trying to do is I take out like four batteries or eight batteries,
[573.28] Curry: and I'll do this over a couple of days maybe, is fly around and try and,
[578.4] Curry: my first couple of batteries are trying to get sort of actual,
[582.8] Curry: make sure I can fly up and down.
[584.24] Curry: Don't do anything too dangerous where I might smash it up and ruin the day.
[588.4] Curry: And as soon as I've got things like, you know, I've flown past
[591.36] Curry: and I've done sort of general flips and I could fly around,
[594.08] Curry: then I'd be a bit more confident about let's do some more exciting things.
[598.08] Curry: Let's go through the trees.
[599.28] Curry: Let's do flips and loops and all sorts.
[602.32] Curry: And I'm trying to just get as much footage as I can.
[604.88] Curry: And for me personally, I then shove all that on the editor.
[609.12] Curry: And what, what I'm trying to think about is like what happened during a flight?
[613.92] Curry: What, what did I like about it?
[615.28] Curry: What didn't I like about it?
[617.68] Curry: Was there anything, anything niggly when I was setting it up that I didn't like?
[621.44] Curry: And I'm trying to, I don't script it,
[623.36] Curry: but I might make a couple of bullet points about what,
[626.16] Curry: what I need to remember to say about certain things.
[628.96] Curry: And then I'm just trying to grab bits of the flight,
[631.12] Curry: which I think this is interesting.
[632.88] Curry: And normally I've got, you know, 30, 40 minutes of flight footage.
[636.4] Curry: So it's not, it's not hard grabbing things from it.
[639.12] Curry: Any exciting or interesting crashes, anything that went wrong.
[643.6] Curry: I like to try and talk about why it happened.
[646.24] Curry: And I'm just trying to then talk about the sort of fly I was doing
[650.24] Curry: and pretty much how I felt about it as opposed to like
[653.76] Curry: the sort of technical stuff about it.
[655.84] Curry: I often like to focus about stuff that's personal to me.
[660.16] Curry: Like I like this quad because it ticks my particular boxes,
[663.6] Curry: might not tick other people's boxes, but I like it.
[666.48] Curry: And I just do my voiceover stuff.
[669.2] Curry: You ever on about that for a sort of three or four minutes,
[672.4] Curry: and then I might do some sort of closing thing
[674.56] Curry: where I'm just sort of sat here and like waving it about saying,
[677.6] Curry: here it is again, I'm doing this.
[680.64] Curry: That, that is my general, that is the curry kitten trademark formula
[684.64] Curry: for reviews, which it may not be very exciting,
[687.36] Curry: but it kind of, it works for me.
[689.76] Curry: It feels quite organic because when I'm getting something new,
[693.52] Curry: that's the sort of stuff I'm doing anyway.
[695.2] Curry: I'm looking at it.
[696.0] Curry: I'm like, Oh, this is interesting.
[697.12] Curry: I'm putting on beat of light.
[698.08] Curry: I'm seeing what's going on.
[700.0] Curry: And then I'm taking it out and flying it and seeing what,
[702.4] Curry: what I can do basically with it.
[705.12] AndyRC: Has your process had to change having a house full of people
[709.36] AndyRC: because that's something that I had to change
[713.68] AndyRC: when the people who I live with are constantly in the house.
[720.16] AndyRC: Have been for two years.
[725.76] Curry: They're a little bit kind of in the way.
[727.76] Curry: So it's like I reviewed the green, the green hornet,
[734.0] Curry: which I may have taken and flown it through the house and went out again.
[738.16] Curry: But the fact that the family was there means I didn't have any credible excuse
[742.48] Curry: for why I smashed something up, for example, if it, if it went wrong.
[746.32] Curry: But, you know, it came in handy.
[747.92] Curry: I got Sophie to hold my phone so I could fly the little Uzi 65 around
[752.88] Curry: and she could follow it for me and got some extra footage that way.
[756.08] Curry: It's just a bit, bit weird having people there because where I can,
[762.16] Curry: if I'm flying in the house with like whoops and stuff,
[765.92] Curry: I've always got, I can always sort of sort it out so I can like turn lights on.
[770.0] Curry: I can open doors as I want them to.
[772.32] Curry: And now I'm flying around and there's people wandering through and stuff like that.
[777.92] AndyRC: Turning all the lights off.
[779.2] AndyRC: Why are all the lights on?
[781.04] Curry: What are you doing?
[781.84] Curry: Or yeah, they're in the kitchen making a mess.
[784.8] AndyRC: Well, I think me and MJ probably got a different answer to that because
[790.96] AndyRC: we, I mean, I mostly make my videos.
[795.84] AndyRC: Well, I mean, the flying is obviously done in a day,
[798.88] AndyRC: but all the talky bit is usually done anywhere between one and six in the morning
[805.76] AndyRC: because that's where everybody's asleep and there's nobody giving their front lawn
[812.96] AndyRC: or back lawn a Brazilian three times a day because we're in quarantine
[817.12] AndyRC: and there's nothing else to do.
[818.72] AndyRC: There's nobody moving their bins around, which basically just like,
[823.6] AndyRC: you know, 24 bass drums in the streets that just get moved around.
[829.28] AndyRC: Yeah.
[829.84] AndyRC: So that for me, the talky bit happens late at night,
[835.68] AndyRC: not just for the people I live with either that it didn't used to be.
[841.68] AndyRC: Yeah.
[841.92] AndyRC: But when I had the house to myself and it was summertime.
[849.2] AndyRC: Yeah, it was you could do the, you know, the talky bits at whatever time you wanted to
[856.72] AndyRC: and then go out and fly.
[857.92] AndyRC: But now I usually do the flying part first in the winter.
[862.88] AndyRC: You kind of have to do that anyways, because you've only got about three hours of useful
[867.36] AndyRC: light and that's what if you've got the weather as well.
[871.6] AndyRC: But there's another part to the title of this video and it says and influence people.
[879.52] AndyRC: And that part for me has got to be about, you know, making videos that you want to make,
[891.04] AndyRC: you know, that you're into because I've definitely like in the past when starting
[898.08] AndyRC: up when somebody says, oh, we'll send you this free toy and you're like, all right, awesome.
[903.28] AndyRC: And you get it and you're like, why did I say yes to this kind of thing?
[907.12] AndyRC: And then, you know, but you kind of have to take on those sort of things if you want to sort of
[913.6] AndyRC: build viewership if, you know, looking at different tech and new tech is your thing.
[920.4] AndyRC: But for me now, you know, I have to really enjoy the thing that I'm doing.
[926.72] AndyRC: I think as long as you enjoy the thing that you're doing, then, you know, you'll gain a
[934.48] AndyRC: following and influence people at the same time. I get asked questions all the time.
[939.36] AndyRC: Andy, how do you get free stuff? The answer is you don't get free stuff. You think working 15,
[946.8] AndyRC: 16 hours on a video when you receive a quad, does that mean you've got it for free? Because if I
[953.36] AndyRC: charge, I don't know, minimum wage, 14 quid an hour, that's not exactly free, is it? You know,
[960.0] Curry: you take the price. I'm not convinced you're in touch with what minimum wages, but it's certainly
[964.0] AndyRC: not for free. I think my sort of average... It's my 8 quid, isn't it?
[970.48] AndyRC: Oh, I think it's dollars in a million.
[972.96] Curry: Spot the investment banker. I don't know. How much is it?
[975.52] Curry: About 50 quid, something like that?
[978.8] AndyRC: I don't watch many British stuff. I think is it $14 in America? I'm sure if there's 14 as a...
[985.44] AndyRC: I think it might be $14.
[988.08] NJ: At the minute, that's about 50 quid if you take the currency.
[994.72] Curry: Yeah, I don't particularly like the tag like influencer because it's like...
[1000.56] Curry: I'm not really got an agenda there. Obviously, there is affiliate sales and that's pretty much
[1007.6] Curry: how we make any money at all or barely scrape a living. But it's not like, oh, this is the best
[1014.64] Curry: thing ever. This is the best thing ever. Because if you keep just doing that, it's just crap.
[1019.52] Curry: But I think there's ways around that. If you get something in that's a bit of a duff and
[1024.08] Curry: you know, if you guys are anything like me, if someone suggests this thing and it looks crap,
[1028.32] Curry: you'll just say, no, because that's going to be rubbish. You want stuff that looks good.
[1032.16] Curry: And if it turns out to be really bad, then at the end of it, I'll be saying, this is bad.
[1037.2] Curry: If you're in the market for this sort of thing, hold up other product, which is better. And it's
[1042.4] Curry: like buy this instead. And that way, it's still like there's a positive marketing at the end of it.
[1047.12] Curry: Like the Usseg 65. I love the Usseg 65. It is now my favorite whoop. I think it's better than
[1056.64] AndyRC: the Mobula 6. Go watch my video and see what you think.
[1062.8] Curry: I've made my video now, which comes out tomorrow. Okay, go watch mine.
[1068.64] Curry: I'll watch yours after mine releases and I'll be like, ah, what did I miss?
[1073.44] Curry: But that's the thing. It's all objective. And I said, I said, this absolutely ticks my boxes.
[1080.8] Curry: This is the kind of flying that I like to fly with. And I said, like, many people will disagree.
[1085.84] AndyRC: Just preemptive people. I think I think what happened with mine was that we've had some really
[1095.84] AndyRC: nice weather. So I decided to fly outside and, you know, like a lot of the tiny, especially
[1102.88] AndyRC: the 65 millimeter size, they're not really outdoor flyers, but the Mobula 6 just absolutely
[1110.72] AndyRC: kills it indoors and outdoors. And for me, that was why it was also the camera. And we won't go
[1118.56] NJ: into it. Let's not go into it. Have you two got different KV versions? Just just to...
[1123.12] Curry: We have different KV versions. You've got the 25,000 KV. I got the 19,000 KV. So they were
[1131.52] NJ: quite similar. How are you? What the hell was that? How are you? That's Jack stroke Ned from
[1142.0] AndyRC: South Park. Oh my God. I know you smashed these. My new voice. My new voice. I'm having to translate.
[1151.44] Curry: I quite like it. Tony's also a good example. If you are going to film yourself, don't forget
[1160.0] Curry: lighting. Do I not? LED lights are quite handy. Just put your face in. I can't be bothered to
[1174.48] Tony: lean over there. Jack, I like your new voice. Can it go faster? You're going to get a girl
[1188.45] Tony: round and not talk and just get Tony. Like Tony did to his GF. Like Tony did to his BF. I think it was
[1199.65] Tony: GF. Oh, GF. Smash. Smash. It's all in the timing. Is that why you like Tony? No, I was out on a mountain
[1212.85] Tony: bike ride. I was just really, really late. I did tell the guys I was going to be late.
[1223.65] Tony: Things got up me. I had a long day at work and stuff.
[1228.77] NJ: So come on, Angel. What about you then? To be honest with you, I think mine's probably fairly
[1235.01] NJ: similar to, I think we've all got something in common in some of our processes. I'm the same.
[1240.21] NJ: I don't script anything. But again, I have bullet points of things I want to talk about. I usually
[1245.97] NJ: start off by going out and flying. And just like hurry, because I've learned the hard way,
[1250.85] NJ: you make sure you take your pictures of how beautiful it looks before you start crashing.
[1255.41] Curry: Before it's under a tractor.
[1258.53] NJ: Do you know what? That's exactly the one. If it wasn't for beta FPV, actually saying,
[1267.41] NJ: don't worry, we'll give you another one. I wouldn't have been able to do anything on that.
[1272.21] NJ: But that was the turning point where it was like, right, 100% getting all the B-roll of that now.
[1278.21] NJ: But interestingly, the one thing I have made a big, I've only ever used Premiere Pro. And
[1284.61] NJ: the last video I did, I switched over to DaVinci Resolve. And I've got to say, I mean, I hate
[1291.57] NJ: having to learn anything because I have to do all the time in music where I'm working between
[1295.09] NJ: either Logic Pro or Pro Tools or a lot of the big ones. It's a pain switching. And when you
[1299.73] NJ: really know a particular editor, you don't really want to start from scratch with another one.
[1305.73] NJ: I can tell you now, if you're on Premiere Pro and you go to DaVinci, it will take you
[1310.53] NJ: like a couple of hours and you'll know your way around it. Not only that, I actually think it's
[1314.61] NJ: better. There's so many great things about that. And it's free. I mean, I can't say enough good
[1320.61] NJ: things about DaVinci Resolve. I'm still kind of scratching my brain as to how they've just given
[1326.13] NJ: that away. That free version has got so much good stuff in it. So yeah, I'm going to be
[1330.93] NJ: sticking with them for the foreseeable future. Really good video editor. But yeah, same order
[1337.41] NJ: is pretty much the same order as you guys. Get the footage, get back, do the top-down view of
[1343.49] NJ: the quad, talk about it, reference notes I've got to make about it from flying it and things
[1348.77] NJ: I've inspected on it that I think need to change or whatever. Put that in the editor and then what
[1356.13] NJ: I will do actually is usually once I've done it, I'll give it a good... Well, I try and leave it a
[1360.13] NJ: day at least so I can look back at my footage. And that's usually when I'll go, I forgot to say
[1366.29] NJ: something. I forgot to talk about that. And I'll then drop in another just a little thing. Because
[1371.33] NJ: I hate that when I publish a video and then realized I've missed something that I really
[1374.37] Frank: wanted to put in there. So you do like your voiceover and stuff kind of as part of the
[1379.01] NJ: editing process. It depends on what's happening. Sometimes, yes, but the majority of the time
[1387.73] NJ: I'm talking into the mic whilst with the top-down camera doing what I'm doing. If there's anything
[1393.25] NJ: I need to say, then I'll drop in voice over the top. But yeah, it's just whatever is the
[1399.97] NJ: fastest method for you, I guess, because we all don't want to be sat in front of an editor for
[1403.81] NJ: any longer than we have to be. That's the only sort of soul-sucking part of it. I quite like
[1408.69] NJ: editing the flying videos. They're good fun. I really enjoy it. I enjoy syncing the maneuvers
[1416.21] NJ: to the music and I really, really enjoy that. It's the review stuff I find could be a bit
[1422.77] AndyRC: laborious, shall we say, at times. Yeah, I spent like 10 hours on a three-minute freestyle
[1429.73] AndyRC: video just making it match the music and everything, making it do funny stuff and that.
[1440.53] Curry: Quite a lot of time. It was quite interesting.
[1443.97] Curry: Every time I do a sim release, I do a video and for the network stuff, I had to get Jack
[1451.01] Curry: and Frank to fly where I wanted them to so I could film them. It was just like being
[1457.17] Curry: out in the field. Jack's like, ah, where are you? I'm at the hill, which hill? By the tree,
[1462.45] Curry: which tree? Ah, I've crashed. Where are you? It's just went on and on like that. Just
[1467.65] Curry: fly in the line slowly that way and I'll follow behind. It's enamity ensued.
[1475.25] Frank: It is quite funny that we can turn up here every week and we'll record for an hour and
[1482.21] Frank: at least half of it will be complete nonsense. It goes out to the world.
[1489.57] Curry: Well, that is pretty much what most of my recording sessions filming myself are. There's
[1495.25] Curry: a lot of absolute nonsense there. There is a huge amount of, if you look at my videos,
[1501.01] Curry: you'll notice them. This is not because I'm keeping it tight. It's because I'm getting
[1505.01] Curry: rid of all those absolute scrubs or me just going, what's that quad chord again? I don't know or
[1511.41] Curry: shouting at the dog to shut up because he's making a noise, that sort of stuff.
[1516.53] Curry: Final cut pro for me, obviously, because I'm a Mac user. I didn't know that I knew my editing
[1524.45] Curry: software that well. Sometimes you don't think about it, but then you look down and it's like,
[1530.29] Curry: I'm just doing all these keystrokes and the mouse this end. I'm just going, not even thinking about
[1537.41] AndyRC: it. Shortcut half my editing time when I figured them out. I figured them out way too late as well.
[1549.25] NJ: The one for me is zooming the timeline. That is just constantly having to move the timeline in
[1554.29] NJ: and out, just zooming the splice. That's the one that gets spanned the most.
[1559.65] Tony: Can you do something for that one?
[1563.81] NJ: If you go over to DaVinci Resolve from Adobe, by the way, you can take the shortcuts with you.
[1570.37] NJ: So it will say, when you first load it up, it asks you if you've come over from Adobe.
[1577.09] NJ: You can just start using it with all the Adobe shortcuts.
[1582.45] AndyRC: I might need to do that, seeing as this whole situation has left me potless.
[1587.09] TTS: So any free stuff, I'm sure.
[1599.49] Curry: This now sounds like hell when it's dying.
[1603.65] Tony: What's that cod calls out your minges?
[1607.17] Tony: Can you type daisy daisy?
[1609.25] Tony: Any type falling with style. Thank you very much for your donation or just shout out.
[1614.21] TTS: What are you doing, Dave?
[1616.93] TTS: Thanks to falling with style.
[1621.25] Tony: That's it.
[1624.29] Tony: Can it go a little bit faster?
[1634.93] Curry: That's what a senile AI sounds like.
[1636.93] Curry: What?
[1638.93] Curry: What?
[1640.93] TTS: What?
[1644.93] AndyRC: Jack, surely your computer has like a built-in microphone if you're not using the audio interface.
[1650.45] AndyRC: All computers have like a mic input at least.
[1653.97] Tony: Sounds like more of a potato than that though.
[1656.45] Frank: And you have like three cameras. Surely one of them has a microphone on it.
[1660.93] Curry: He says he had a microphone on his inbuilt web camera, but it sounds awful.
[1664.77] Curry: But it's got to be better than robot voice.
[1667.01] AndyRC: Yes, surely.
[1671.78] TTS: It's going so mad.
[1677.3] AndyRC: Oh, dear.
[1678.98] AndyRC: Anyways, Tony, I thought what did I see chasing a wing this week online?
[1684.02] Tony: Yeah, I've been out flying this week pretty much every night.
[1686.98] AndyRC: Was that you and Sovaie? Was it you and Jokerfishing, was it?
[1690.66] Tony: Yeah, he's been out as well.
[1692.34] Tony: So yeah, I was chasing his wing.
[1694.02] Tony: That was my old wing.
[1695.06] Tony: I got more from five years and years ago.
[1700.18] Tony: Sorry, I haven't muted anything.
[1703.94] Tony: Yeah, so yeah, I've been mucking around in the evenings.
[1707.86] Tony: Flying after a Danny boy and his wing.
[1711.78] TTS: Say, welcome to OpenTX.
[1718.94] Tony: There's a five pound donation from...
[1722.3] TTS: Oh, he is gay.
[1725.58] Tony: Thanks.
[1726.7] Tony: We've got...
[1727.82] NJ: We've done our disclaimer yet.
[1729.74] NJ: I think the robot...
[1730.62] NJ: Can we do the disclaimer in the...
[1735.42] NJ: No robot disclaimer, please.
[1737.02] NJ: Yeah, come on.
[1738.38] AndyRC: Come on.
[1744.86] Tony: So I'll tell you what I use for filming.
[1748.22] Tony: Go for it.
[1749.98] NJ: This.
[1752.3] NJ: Hero.
[1752.86] NJ: It's on, isn't it?
[1753.9] NJ: Hero five.
[1754.7] TTS: We don't know this.
[1755.98] TTS: And you expressed by end guests on this show are personal
[1760.46] TTS: and may not reflect the new mothers.
[1765.5] Curry: This was like from a Vic 20, surely.
[1768.3] Curry: This is...
[1769.1] AndyRC: Pretty abrasive.
[1770.78] AndyRC: It's not exactly Alexa, is it, quality?
[1777.82] Curry: It's nice that...
[1779.34] Curry: Oh, we can hear it.
[1780.22] Jack: He speaks.
[1781.42] Jack: Does that work?
[1782.94] NJ: Yeah, that's all right.
[1783.74] NJ: Have you known all along, are you kidding?
[1786.06] NJ: Yeah, of course, yeah.
[1786.94] NJ: Okay.
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[1816.38] Curry: I was just going to say with Tony showing that mic there,
[1818.94] Curry: I think if people are sort of starting out
[1821.5] Curry: and wanting to sort of film themselves doing stuff,
[1824.46] Curry: two things that sort you out from sort of being sort of crap to acceptable
[1832.06] Curry: is first is sound.
[1834.06] Curry: Just having a dedicated microphone makes such a difference.
[1837.5] Curry: Whether you're just like some cheapie plug-in mic for your phone
[1840.94] Curry: is fantastic on a voiceover rather than just having a phone on its own mic.
[1847.26] Curry: It's just so much better.
[1848.62] Curry: And if you can get that lighting, just lighting your face properly,
[1852.54] Curry: then it will look an awful lot better.
[1854.14] Curry: You don't need sort of fancy cameras and stuff.
[1856.3] Curry: You can do it on a phone,
[1857.18] Curry: but just the extra thing about getting your lighting right,
[1859.82] Curry: getting a decent mic will just lift your video up way,
[1864.22] Curry: way much more than just, you know, your normal sort of gubbins.
[1868.54] Tony: Yeah.
[1868.86] Tony: This is directional road mic with a dead cat.
[1873.42] Curry: Yeah, you've got the same one as me, Tony.
[1874.86] Tony: Dead cat.
[1876.78] Tony: The thing is with this, when you press start on your GoPro,
[1880.54] Tony: which I always forget to do,
[1883.74] Tony: and you've got this bit that you have to buy from GoPro,
[1888.14] Tony: which is an extra bloody 50 quid,
[1890.94] Tony: just for the, you know, it powers the mic.
[1896.46] Tony: When you put it in the port and press go,
[1900.14] Tony: it says mic okay, but it never is okay.
[1902.94] Tony: You can stand there talking, playing back,
[1904.78] Tony: and it just doesn't record.
[1907.18] Tony: What I have to remember is take that out
[1909.74] Tony: and then put it back in, and then it works.
[1913.58] Tony: Do you have that problem at all?
[1915.9] Curry: No, because I'm using it with this camera,
[1918.06] Curry: which is a lot easier.
[1919.42] Tony: With a GoPro, you must take it out and plug it back in,
[1923.74] Tony: otherwise it just doesn't record your audio.
[1925.82] Tony: But when it works, it's really good
[1927.5] Tony: because you can have super view and all that lot.
[1931.02] Curry: That's the mic I do use for my GoPro 4,
[1933.34] Curry: but that's just a very simple,
[1935.5] Curry: I've got, there's an adapter actually for this,
[1937.34] Curry: there's a special, I didn't pay 50 quid
[1940.14] Curry: because on a GoPro 4, I can get this third party adapter
[1944.14] Curry: and this whole setup's about 20 quid,
[1946.54] Curry: and then that's directional as well.
[1948.22] Curry: But as I said, it can pick up interference from the radio
[1951.74] Curry: if you're doing that.
[1952.46] Curry: But if you're just filming yourself and stuff, it's really nice.
[1955.02] AndyRC: And if you've got the GoPro with the screens,
[1957.9] AndyRC: so like the silver, Hero 4 silver,
[1961.26] AndyRC: it picks up interference off the screen
[1963.9] AndyRC: and also the Wi-Fi as well, so you have to be really...
[1968.54] Curry: I have picked up this off the screen, Andy, to be honest.
[1971.42] Curry: I've done quite a lot of filming on that one with the 4,
[1973.5] Curry: which has got the screen for silver.
[1976.06] AndyRC: Does your screen turn off after a certain amount of time?
[1980.3] AndyRC: I've had that problem,
[1981.42] AndyRC: and I was like, the Wi-Fi's off.
[1983.02] AndyRC: And then I was like, oh, I kept the screen on fully
[1985.42] AndyRC: because I needed to frame some stuff with it.
[1989.5] AndyRC: And it ended up being the screen that was causing some problems.
[1994.78] AndyRC: But I'm switching now because in my last video,
[2000.46] AndyRC: I put the GoPro 8 on my head and it was like,
[2005.02] AndyRC: I'd got a gimbal on my head.
[2006.62] AndyRC: It was such a...
[2007.74] AndyRC: The only thing I'm struggling with is the audio a little bit
[2012.22] AndyRC: because the new Hero 8's got this wind canceling thing,
[2016.46] AndyRC: but it doesn't sound very natural.
[2019.98] AndyRC: And it works, and it still picks up and does weird things
[2023.74] AndyRC: with one of these sound condoms on,
[2026.86] AndyRC: so I'm still trying to figure that out.
[2028.86] AndyRC: But overall, the picture from that,
[2032.3] AndyRC: the stability with hypersmooth on your head,
[2035.66] AndyRC: it looks like someone's got a point and a gimbal at your quad,
[2040.22] AndyRC: and it's just on your head.
[2041.66] AndyRC: That I'm going to start using, I think.
[2044.22] AndyRC: I think it's time to hang up the Hero 4.
[2047.74] AndyRC: It's been going for a few years.
[2049.42] AndyRC: And mine is...
[2050.54] Curry: I did use my GoPro 7 Black for a couple of things,
[2053.66] Curry: and I looked at the picture of quality from it.
[2055.42] Curry: I was like, actually, that's nice.
[2056.94] Curry: But yeah, I have to get myself a new wind condom.
[2061.66] NJ: You said that your head's quite a good gimbal on its own,
[2064.22] NJ: so anything mounted to your head's going to have a little...
[2065.9] AndyRC: Oh, MJ, you would be surprised that it did.
[2069.34] AndyRC: Depends on who you are.
[2070.54] AndyRC: I thought so.
[2074.78] AndyRC: For me, I mean, you know, somebody said...
[2078.86] AndyRC: I think somebody said, someone, have you had a camera man?
[2081.26] AndyRC: I was like, no, it's just that smooth.
[2083.58] AndyRC: It really is like a gimbal, but the hypersmooth when it's on your head.
[2090.22] AndyRC: Anyways, go and take a look.
[2092.78] AndyRC: It was like my last, the speed, the DJI speed video.
[2097.42] AndyRC: I did a line of sight with the quad, and it was like,
[2100.3] AndyRC: even when I saw it back, I was like, yeah, that's better.
[2106.22] AndyRC: Yeah, that video is making me want to buy DJI stuff.
[2111.02] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah, it's making a lot of math.
[2115.26] AndyRC: It's funny, actually, when the DJI thing came out,
[2119.58] AndyRC: I think I talked about it on this show.
[2121.9] AndyRC: I took it to the indoor sports hall club that I'm a member of,
[2125.5] AndyRC: and everyone was like, oh, it's a bit pixely.
[2127.98] AndyRC: All the lights, and now every single person in that video owns one.
[2134.06] AndyRC: So I've thought about doing a little funny clip
[2137.34] AndyRC: where they're all slagging it off and then put at the end,
[2141.42] AndyRC: every single person in this video went and bought one.
[2146.78] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2148.22] AndyRC: I think when people are trying to find issues with that system,
[2154.06] AndyRC: they're trying to convince themselves reasons not to get it.
[2158.22] AndyRC: Not all that.
[2158.94] AndyRC: Exactly that.
[2159.9] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah.
[2160.7] AndyRC: It's too dear.
[2161.98] AndyRC: It's not that great, bam, bam, bam.
[2163.98] AndyRC: Especially if you've already spent that amount of money on analog gear,
[2167.9] AndyRC: which a lot of us have, you know?
[2169.58] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah, of course.
[2171.1] NJ: The thing is with the DJI system, it wasn't that great to start with.
[2175.34] NJ: It was revolutionary, and everyone just, you know, the wow factor was there,
[2179.66] NJ: but it wasn't that great practically.
[2181.26] NJ: Whereas now, there's just been so much great stuff done with the firmware updates.
[2185.9] NJ: It's a very different unit to when I first started using it as to what it is now.
[2191.74] NJ: But yeah, I absolutely love it.
[2194.54] NJ: It's definitely the way forward for me.
[2196.78] NJ: And new hardware coming.
[2198.3] AndyRC: In fact, I got to cover something up on this.
[2203.1] AndyRC: Probably won't show up anyways.
[2204.7] AndyRC: But this is the new Nano camera.
[2207.34] AndyRC: There's something here that I wish I could show you, but I can't.
[2212.3] AndyRC: That's for the aftershag party, right?
[2214.62] AndyRC: No, I'm afraid not, NDA.
[2216.7] AndyRC: But yeah, some exciting stuff coming for the DJI stuff, I have to say.
[2222.06] Curry: See, I'm very much in the favour of like, DJI looks amazing.
[2225.58] Curry: I'd like to try that, but I'm just in the...
[2227.66] Curry: I can't possibly afford it, so I'm just going to be glum.
[2231.18] Curry: Some people will then convince themselves actually it's rubbish
[2235.02] Curry: because I can't afford to buy it.
[2237.26] Curry: It reminds me a little bit of the old, just aged myself here,
[2241.1] Curry: the Spectrum versus Commodore 64 or the Atari ST versus the Amiga,
[2245.02] Curry: where somebody buys one, they'll put all their eggs in that basket
[2249.26] Curry: and they'll slag off the other no matter what.
[2251.66] Curry: Because the one I've got is better and I don't like yours.
[2254.78] Tony: It's the same with PS than Xbox, isn't it?
[2258.38] Curry: Oh, we could bring it up to date and say PS4 versus Xbox One.
[2262.78] AndyRC: We have to buy them all.
[2264.78] AndyRC: We like to have the crowd.
[2266.62] AndyRC: We like to be in a conservative or labour.
[2272.14] AndyRC: We like to stick to us, you know.
[2274.38] Jack: Nintendo or Mega Drive.
[2279.18] Frank: That's actually a psychological phenomenon
[2280.94] Frank: because they've done that with people with memory loss.
[2285.9] Frank: So they've only got short-term memory
[2289.82] Frank: and they give them a painting but hide it until they've forgotten about it
[2296.62] Frank: and then give them the option of two paintings
[2299.02] Frank: and they'll always go for the one that they've been told was theirs.
[2302.7] Frank: So there's this circuit in the brain of things that you own is better.
[2308.3] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2311.82] AndyRC: But what if you own both of them and don't have a preference for either?
[2319.74] AndyRC: That's my perspective on this whole thing.
[2324.14] AndyRC: That's what makes me sad.
[2325.26] AndyRC: It's like people are fighting over it and it's just, you know,
[2333.5] AndyRC: whatever you like to use, then just use, you know.
[2337.02] NJ: I like this in the chat.
[2339.58] NJ: We got Sega or Amiga.
[2342.14] NJ: It would actually have to be Amiga for me.
[2343.82] NJ: That was such a big part of my Amiga 500.
[2347.1] NJ: Yeah, I had all the Sega consoles and I've still got two of them.
[2350.06] NJ: I've got the Mega Drive, the Mega CD, the Master System.
[2355.42] NJ: Two of those are still in the loft.
[2357.1] NJ: But I've got to say, it was just the Amiga.
[2362.46] NJ: It was so awesome.
[2363.82] NJ: I had just a box full of games on the Amiga.
[2366.86] NJ: I love that thing.
[2367.74] AndyRC: Well, I had the choice between the Commodore 64 or the Mega Drive.
[2371.42] AndyRC: So the Mega Drive was like a supercomputer for me.
[2375.1] NJ: Oh, the Holy Grail compared to the...
[2377.98] NJ: Lost Jack, I'm making a father and father.
[2380.06] Curry: You get that, you bastards.
[2381.74] Curry: You know I've been after those.
[2383.74] Curry: Son of a bitch.
[2385.02] AndyRC: You losers.
[2385.82] AndyRC: What do you have to hold shit for?
[2387.5] AndyRC: What do you be buying VHSs next?
[2389.42] AndyRC: Jesus.
[2390.78] Curry: I've still got two boxes of Amiga floppies in my loft.
[2395.74] Curry: Just in case I could get an Amiga back.
[2397.98] Curry: There was actually a bunch of programs I wrote that I can't remember how to do this particular
[2402.46] Curry: sine-cosine function where these sprites are going around in such a lovely pattern.
[2407.02] Curry: And I need to get back off that desk to find out what I did.
[2410.54] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2411.02] AndyRC: Floppy is the word that cooks the mind when you talk about that sort of stuff.
[2415.9] NJ: If you had an Amiga, you'll remember X coffee.
[2418.54] NJ: That's all I'm going to say.
[2420.62] NJ: That was how everything got shared around school.
[2426.06] NJ: Dear oh dear.
[2427.18] Curry: Tony King, feel free to send me one of those because I still need them.
[2433.1] Curry: And I haven't got them.
[2434.3] Curry: That's sad times.
[2435.5] Curry: I can't remember.
[2436.46] Curry: I don't believe I got rid of my Amiga.
[2438.06] Curry: I don't get rid of anything.
[2439.74] Curry: If you could see what's in the shelving here and above,
[2442.86] Curry: it's just littered with consoles and games and stuff.
[2445.34] Curry: But for some reason, my Amiga's not here.
[2448.46] Jack: My Amiga battery leaked so bad, it totally killed it.
[2453.66] Tony: I had the Spectrum 128 with a disk drive.
[2456.62] Tony: Yeah.
[2458.46] NJ: I thought it was a cassette only.
[2460.14] NJ: Did they they brought a disk drive?
[2461.42] Tony: No, it was a disk drive one on it.
[2463.98] NJ: Wow, posh.
[2465.74] Tony: Yeah, I think my dad had a good year, that year.
[2468.62] Tony: Capping.
[2473.42] Jack: They would have dazed.
[2474.14] Jack: You had to stick a load, don't lie.
[2479.74] Tony: That's good, that's good.
[2481.1] Tony: We had good fun on them games.
[2482.7] Tony: And then PS1, and then I've had all the PS's,
[2486.3] Tony: and I'll probably get a PS5 when it comes out.
[2488.3] Tony: And I think it's coming out this year, isn't it?
[2490.94] Curry: Well, we got to just to see what Unreal 5 is all about.
[2494.3] Tony: Yeah.
[2494.78] Curry: It's just the engine.
[2495.58] Curry: We just want to see the pretty graphics.
[2498.3] Tony: It's looking good.
[2499.98] Jack: Have you got an RTX card, Enjay?
[2503.02] Jack: Are you part of the future?
[2504.46] NJ: I've got 1080 Ti.
[2506.46] NJ: I haven't gone to RTX.
[2507.42] NJ: I'm skipping that.
[2508.06] NJ: I'm going to go to the next release.
[2510.78] NJ: RTX just wasn't as big a jump for me to make it worth the price tag.
[2517.42] NJ: When that card dropped, RTX was awful and just super...
[2520.06] NJ: I mean, it's still is power hungry,
[2521.34] NJ: but it was just not very good.
[2522.94] NJ: And now it's better.
[2524.86] NJ: It's still power hungry.
[2526.94] NJ: It's not worth it.
[2527.98] NJ: So yeah, I'm going to wait for the next series.
[2529.74] NJ: So I'll stay on my 1080 Ti, which is still beautiful.
[2533.42] NJ: Is RTX still in video?
[2535.26] NJ: Is it different?
[2536.22] AndyRC: Yes.
[2537.18] NJ: AMD have got their own version, which I can't remember the name of,
[2541.26] NJ: but they're all working on their own version of this type of lighting.
[2546.14] NJ: Because I mean, there's a beta version.
[2550.86] NJ: I really have to correct myself for this.
[2555.5] NJ: Yeah, there's a version of Minecraft.
[2557.9] NJ: If you own Minecraft on the Microsoft Store,
[2559.74] NJ: you can get the beta version, which lets you turn RTX on.
[2563.26] NJ: And even the 1080 Ti's with RTX are crying, running that thing.
[2569.02] NJ: That's how, you know, as in sub 100 frames per second,
[2573.66] NJ: it's like 70 or something, I think, to render it 4K.
[2577.42] NJ: It's crazy, crazy hungry, but it'll get better.
[2586.53] Frank: Can you say 100 frames per second, like that's a bad thing?
[2590.45] Frank: Like, I don't get more than like 20 frames a second on anything.
[2601.41] NJ: I shutter at 60. God, 20.
[2605.33] NJ: That's like a flick book.
[2606.93] Frank: Exactly.
[2608.61] NJ: I could animate it faster than you're seeing that.
[2611.09] Curry: See, over here, I ticked the box as VSync,
[2613.73] Curry: because what I can't be dealing with is like varying frame rate.
[2617.65] Curry: Just lock it down to 60 frames a second. I'm happy.
[2620.93] NJ: You're right. VSync is fantastic.
[2623.01] NJ: The problem is the input latency.
[2624.69] NJ: So all the guys, all the competitive gamers won't turn it on.
[2628.05] NJ: They'll just run it at whatever the graphics card will churn out,
[2632.93] NJ: which is maybe 200, 250 frames per second or something.
[2637.73] NJ: Just conquers.
[2639.49] NJ: But yeah, VSync, I like VSync for the prettier games.
[2644.53] NJ: You're going to stay there, Ryan.
[2647.87] Curry: Well, that's quite a digression, isn't it?
[2650.83] NJ: Yeah, that was an unusual direction.
[2655.63] AndyRC: What we should talk about is NJ recently had a change in direction on his channel
[2661.55] AndyRC: if we are talking about channels.
[2664.43] Curry: Fleshlights, was it, or something else, do you get confused?
[2667.79] AndyRC: I knew that would come up.
[2669.55] AndyRC: Come on, NJ.
[2672.19] NJ: Even that title bothered me, because I thought,
[2675.23] NJ: they're torches, right?
[2676.59] NJ: We're British. We call them torches.
[2678.43] NJ: And I thought, hang on a second.
[2679.79] NJ: I know statistically, like 55% of my subscribers are American.
[2686.91] NJ: So I thought, I won't put torch. I'll put flashlight,
[2690.27] NJ: which just meant there was at least six Fleshlight comments in the...
[2696.35] Jack: Whoever those six people were, I'm proud of you.
[2699.39] Jack: And if you'd like to subscribe to a channel where it may or may not
[2704.19] Jack: contain a Fleshlight, youtube.com forward slash Brighton Drive Live.
[2710.59] NJ: Yes, not a new direction, but under the tech bubble of NJ hasn't been sent anything to review
[2717.79] NJ: for a while. I found that my extensive collection of newfangled Flashlights,
[2725.71] NJ: that's the new way of saying it.
[2729.23] NJ: Yes, I thought I'll just talk about those because, you know, it's something to do.
[2733.55] AndyRC: I have to say, I've been around when he got his torch out and it was pretty impressive.
[2740.03] AndyRC: You're not helping.
[2743.39] NJ: That was a genuine thing, and it still sounded wrong.
[2747.47] NJ: You see, the thing is, every time I step foot back in this little arena,
[2755.87] NJ: where Jack is muted, essentially, the essence of Jack is still here doing its work.
[2763.31] NJ: You don't understand what he's all about.
[2764.75] Jack: The Lord's work.
[2768.51] NJ: You're all disciples and you don't even know it.
[2771.79] AndyRC: My car got stuck, right? Me and NJ are in the car.
[2776.03] AndyRC: My car got stuck. He got out, got his torch out, and we escaped and we were fine.
[2782.51] AndyRC: There you go. That's almost normal, isn't it? And it was very handy, wasn't it?
[2786.99] TTS: Exactly.
[2787.47] TTS: The girth on the left, the brightness.
[2796.27] Jack: If I die, I expect you all to carry on as normal.
[2802.19] Tony: I'm going to carry on in that voice.
[2806.83] Curry: We can just replace you with an AI with that voice.
[2809.15] Curry: I should be able to code up in a couple of hours.
[2811.87] Jack: There's maybe enough stuff that I've said over my old podcast and this podcast.
[2818.51] Frank: Well, we'll just pay a transcription service to transcribe everything that you've said on LDO,
[2824.83] Frank: and then we'll feed that into a generative adversarial network, and then we'll just have a
[2829.79] Frank: button that presses.
[2832.83] AndyRC: Jack's thing that he's got where it does it.
[2835.31] AndyRC: AI Jack.
[2837.23] AndyRC: Yeah, we did have a couple of sensible episodes when Painless did the Back to the Future thing,
[2844.51] AndyRC: and then Jack came back and everyone was like, what the hell is this, Chef?
[2850.83] NJ: That's the thing I love about Lee. He'll come in and he'll just roll with an Iron Fist,
[2855.07] NJ: march on with the timings.
[2856.75] Jack: And yeah, the best thing is, whilst I was doing that bonus little thing with him, he basically
[2871.39] Jack: put on his full channel.
[2877.39] Jack: He had a ring at the doorbell and he ran off and he was wearing shorts and didn't have any shoes,
[2881.55] Jack: and I was making commentary and saying stuff about him.
[2886.43] Jack: So I know that he had, at one point, he was like editing and being like,
[2894.03] AndyRC: I got caught out in it.
[2895.63] Curry: Yeah, he got some edits. There were lots of beeps when Jack spoke.
[2900.51] Jack: Oh, did he beep out my swearing and stuff?
[2903.15] Jack: He beeped out your swearing. Have you not watched it back?
[2905.87] Jack: No, I haven't.
[2906.99] Jack: Did I swear that much?
[2908.11] AndyRC: I didn't notice anything.
[2910.43] AndyRC: There was no swearing and all the comments were very nice.
[2913.87] AndyRC: One said it's nice to see Jack acting normal, for once.
[2920.27] AndyRC: To be fair, I did type that comment, but still it counts.
[2928.91] Frank: Seeing Jack trying to talk seriously and just being very nervous,
[2934.99] Frank: it reminded me of being back at school when people had to go out the front of the class
[2939.87] Frank: and give them a little talk.
[2941.87] AndyRC: I don't think he looked at this. I think he looked all right.
[2945.15] Jack: How many times?
[2946.91] Jack: That was just me masturbating under the table.
[2950.11] NJ: Is that acting normal?
[2951.79] NJ: Is he acting normal by whose standards?
[2954.03] NJ: Because I bet our standards of his normal are different to other people's.
[2958.67] NJ: Do you know what, despite us going off on a tangent,
[2960.83] NJ: I don't know if you've seen in the chat, but there is lots and lots of talk about
[2965.31] NJ: we've got Golden Axe, we've got Wolfenstein.
[2969.47] Jack: The Blues Brothers game, where they threw records, so good.
[2975.71] Jack: Someone said Michael Jackson game, I remember that.
[2979.79] Jack: What was it? Deathball, you know that?
[2981.71] Jack: No more curses.
[2983.15] Jack: Deathball, was that it?
[2986.43] Jack: You're in an arena and you pass the metal ball around.
[2989.71] Jack: Speedball.
[2990.43] Jack: Speedball, that's it, yeah, like heroin and coke at the same time.
[2994.59] Tony: What's that dragon, what's it, double dragon?
[3000.11] Curry: Double dragon, you could just do the whole thing with the elbow.
[3004.11] Tony: You could just elbow, cut the whole thing.
[3006.51] NJ: So it's that from the end, where you had to fight your mate.
[3009.07] Jack: A tiny girl bite me, a couple of times.
[3010.83] NJ: One of you had to get the girl at the end,
[3012.19] NJ: so you had to fight your mate if you were playing with your friend the whole way through.
[3014.91] NJ: That's a shame, a kill with one of the others.
[3016.91] NJ: Yeah, one of you had to go.
[3018.91] NJ: That's it.
[3021.47] Tony: He's one pound in an arcade, he would last all day.
[3025.55] Curry: Well, that's the thing, double dragon, I timed it 20 minutes to go.
[3030.11] Curry: So you think you're being like, oh, look at me, I'm so cool with my elbow.
[3033.23] Curry: It's only 20 minutes a game.
[3037.07] Frank: Just trying to kind of bring it back,
[3039.79] Frank: topping a conversation to something where I can have any input at all.
[3046.11] NJ: Final fight, that was the one I loved back in the arcade.
[3048.51] NJ: Oh yeah, final fight, that was good.
[3052.27] NJ: Final fight.
[3054.91] Jack: Sorry, you're completely in love with my comfort zone now.
[3060.51] Jack: I mean, old game territory is like, oh, bloody zoomer over there.
[3064.59] Jack: I don't know what a video game is.
[3066.51] Jack: What? You used to pay money for it to play them.
[3072.11] Frank: So, I mean, the original thing I was wanting to get people talking about,
[3075.95] Frank: the kind of process for getting a video out,
[3078.35] Frank: because I mean, I'm just as guilty as Jack, really, as having ideas.
[3085.15] Curry: And never getting videos out, Frank.
[3088.11] Curry: Because you have lots of ideas and you do lots of interesting building things.
[3092.27] Curry: And you do lots of filming as well.
[3093.95] Curry: I'm just going to do a live stream for four hours.
[3097.23] Frank: Yeah, well, that was kind of the thing.
[3100.91] Frank: I mean, me and Jack have made, like, plans to make multiple videos.
[3106.59] Frank: And we've met up and we've done the things and we've filmed it.
[3109.63] Frank: And we've had, you know, multiple cameras and multiple microphones and recordings.
[3114.59] Frank: And we've had made sure it's all on a memory stick and then not done anything with it.
[3123.79] Curry: Terrible.
[3125.87] Curry: So what is stopping you?
[3127.23] Curry: Is there some intimidation of the editing phase because you've got all this stuff
[3132.19] Curry: and no clear idea about how to put it all together?
[3136.67] Frank: Yeah, I think that's the thing.
[3137.71] Frank: I mean, even like other videos I've put together or filmed myself and I've,
[3142.51] Frank: you know, spent ages just going through the footage and noting down which timestamps
[3149.07] Frank: and which files and things need to actually go in and where the interesting things are
[3154.19] Frank: and all that kind of thing.
[3155.95] Frank: And then actually sit down and start editing and lose interest at that point.
[3161.79] AndyRC: Oh, if like the editing part is the bit that you don't enjoy then,
[3167.63] AndyRC: just, I mean, you've both got full-time jobs.
[3170.59] AndyRC: Just do the thing because it's fun and don't put it on YouTube for me.
[3175.39] AndyRC: Exactly.
[3175.79] Frank: That's all I do, really.
[3177.07] Frank: But there's something to it.
[3178.19] Frank: It's like this would be nice to make a video of,
[3181.15] Frank: especially when we've like spent the time filming it.
[3183.71] AndyRC: For me, like when I started my channel, I was so motivated.
[3188.19] AndyRC: I was working full-time and I was doing voiceovers for videos in my car on my lunchtime at work.
[3195.63] AndyRC: Wow.
[3196.03] AndyRC: And then I'd come home, film the video, edit it, you know, and it was up, you know.
[3202.35] AndyRC: I probably made more videos back then than I did now.
[3205.07] AndyRC: I was just like, just mad on it.
[3207.55] AndyRC: I just love the entire process.
[3209.47] AndyRC: So if you don't love the entire process, but you like part of the process,
[3215.23] AndyRC: it doesn't mean that you have to make a video out of it.
[3218.59] AndyRC: It's like Jack, you know.
[3220.43] AndyRC: He made his Mavic.
[3223.95] Jack: It felt really, really when bloody, was it RCLobotics?
[3231.31] Jack: I was like, oh, I never knew Jack made that.
[3233.07] Jack: I really want to watch the video.
[3235.31] Jack: And there is no video.
[3238.83] AndyRC: You look like you have to have that like, you know, even if you don't have it,
[3244.51] AndyRC: if you haven't got the drive, then it just doesn't happen.
[3247.15] AndyRC: And if you've got the drive, you know, I'm the same now, you know,
[3249.55] AndyRC: I've been doing this for years.
[3251.07] AndyRC: And, you know, just recently, I think with all this lockdown stuff, man,
[3256.11] AndyRC: I went to like a really dark place.
[3258.67] AndyRC: And then when the flying field opened and I could fly again, it was like,
[3264.27] AndyRC: like I could breathe again, man.
[3265.87] AndyRC: And like, just videos hitting almost every single day.
[3269.79] AndyRC: And it was like going back straight to the start, you know.
[3272.59] AndyRC: So, yeah.
[3275.39] Curry: There is no point to that, isn't there?
[3277.39] Curry: Which is sometimes if you queue stuff up and like you've gotten all this stuff
[3283.23] Curry: and it's going to be absolutely epic, then it can be too much.
[3286.43] Curry: It's like, I want to mountain climb.
[3288.75] Curry: Let's hit Everest.
[3289.87] Curry: You don't do that on your first time.
[3291.15] Curry: So sometimes if you're not like making videos every day, then it's easier to go.
[3296.19] Curry: Let's go simple.
[3297.07] Curry: Let's do some easy bits together to make a video.
[3300.19] Curry: And all the time you're doing these nice, easy videos,
[3302.35] Curry: you're getting very familiar with the software.
[3304.35] Curry: You're starting to get into a process.
[3305.95] Curry: It starts to become second nature.
[3307.23] Curry: And you sort of ramp up to where you're like, oh, let's get multiple angles,
[3310.91] Curry: multiple mics and mix them all together and cut it all to music.
[3314.43] Curry: That's like a couple of steps along sometimes.
[3317.07] Curry: So sometimes it's a case of like, we've got this epic stuff,
[3320.59] Curry: but it's like it's too much because we're starting from dot
[3324.27] Curry: and we can't just go straight to that.
[3325.95] Curry: We have to have some little things on the way to get us there.
[3329.55] Frank: I do. I've done a lot of video editing over the years.
[3335.23] Curry: All right. No excuses and get on with it.
[3336.75] Curry: Lazy.
[3337.23] Frank: I know. I know that before FPV did like still a load of RC stuff.
[3343.23] Frank: And even like in school did like video editing courses and clubs and things.
[3350.19] Frank: And I really did forget how you are with video editing.
[3354.75] Curry: That's amazing.
[3355.47] Frank: Yeah. I mean, we still like at school, it was still the point of having like
[3362.11] Frank: DV tapes. It wasn't like SD cards at that point, but still there was that.
[3369.31] Curry: We had a BBC Micros at my school and that was that was luxury.
[3373.79] Curry: We came on from a Commodore pet.
[3376.67] Jack: This this was this is my problem was that I originally learned how to edit on
[3383.07] Jack: Final Cut Pro 5, which was the original one with like the horse and everything.
[3389.47] Jack: And that's what I kind of like learnt how to do.
[3393.15] Jack: And then I started using iMovie.
[3396.03] Jack: And then how long did me and you spend editing the Mini Air Show 5 video and the RC?
[3406.51] AndyRC: Oh, couple of days, was it?
[3408.75] Jack: Yeah, a couple of days.
[3409.71] Jack: Would you like to know how many views that got?
[3412.35] Jack: How many views?
[3413.95] Jack: 207.
[3416.27] AndyRC: Yeah, well, I took me if if you if you're thinking about this, this was the same right as well.
[3424.67] AndyRC: Like people think I need to get views. I need to get subscribers.
[3429.15] AndyRC: If you have if you are in that mindset, you you will fail straight away because that was never
[3435.23] AndyRC: like YouTube for me, my computer was so crap.
[3438.03] AndyRC: I do when I got into FPV, I do a flight video.
[3441.79] AndyRC: And I had that little space on my computer.
[3444.67] AndyRC: YouTube was the only place I could keep it, right?
[3447.63] AndyRC: So I was uploading just flight videos just so I could watch them back.
[3451.63] AndyRC: No music, no editing, whatever.
[3453.87] AndyRC: And like, somehow people would find them like the odd person that my videos are strictly
[3462.03] AndyRC: a personal diary of the stuff I've done.
[3463.95] AndyRC: Not a great way to build it.
[3465.23] AndyRC: No, it is.
[3466.19] AndyRC: That's what I'm saying.
[3467.63] AndyRC: Like my channel was a way was a way to store videos that I didn't have enough room on my
[3472.51] AndyRC: computer. And then people would say, and of course, I'd sit there modifying it and things
[3478.03] AndyRC: like that. And people would say, Oh, how did you do that and stuff?
[3481.23] AndyRC: And it was like, Oh, well, it'd be quicker for you to make a video on it.
[3485.71] AndyRC: Like we'll just just point my phone and show it.
[3488.75] AndyRC: And then that got it took me two years to get 500 subscribers, man.
[3493.55] AndyRC: And I didn't know that at the time because I wasn't counting.
[3498.83] AndyRC: And I wasn't counting views.
[3500.91] AndyRC: You couldn't monetize videos back then.
[3504.19] AndyRC: But I was spending hours and hours, four hours, all of my spare time outside of work
[3512.83] AndyRC: doing this stuff because I found it interesting and enjoying it.
[3516.51] AndyRC: And if you don't do it for that purpose, then don't do it, I would say.
[3522.91] Curry: Yeah, I agree with any.
[3523.87] Curry: And that's the reason I highlighted Eric's comment there.
[3527.39] Curry: You're pretty much doing it just for yourself because it's fun to do.
[3531.23] Curry: And if people don't watch it, then they don't watch it.
[3533.55] Curry: If they do watch it bonus.
[3535.07] Curry: But I think if you took away, I've said this before, and I think we've all said before,
[3540.75] Curry: if you take away the monetization or the affiliation stuff, then I think I'd still
[3544.99] Curry: be putting out the same videos because it's kind of like fun to do.
[3549.79] Curry: It obviously wouldn't be so much product stuff because somebody
[3552.35] Curry: he wouldn't be sending me stuff.
[3553.47] Curry: But I still be making videos because it's quite fun.
[3556.19] Curry: I enjoy it.
[3557.63] Tony: I love going out flying.
[3559.79] Tony: Go out flying, do a days FPV, run somewhere, even at the local field at the moment,
[3566.19] Tony: but we should all be allowed out soon.
[3569.47] Jack: I just feel like, you know, no one cares.
[3573.31] Jack: You know, like the sort of.
[3575.23] AndyRC: Yeah, no one does care.
[3576.59] Jack: I'm sorry, I'm just like, what am I doing here?
[3578.59] Curry: The amount of effort you put in a video does not reflect his views.
[3583.23] Curry: Sometimes we've all done this and we had a formula for it.
[3586.51] Curry: It'd be amazing.
[3587.87] Curry: You know, I've spent days, weeks, and months putting videos together,
[3591.71] Curry: which have been like, whatever, we might as well throw it in a bin.
[3594.67] Curry: And then I've just done like a five minute just like, oh, I've just thought of this.
[3597.87] Curry: I'll just do it quickly.
[3599.07] Curry: And that goes crazy for some reason.
[3600.75] Curry: It's like, why does that happen?
[3602.35] Curry: So it's nothing to do with the amount of effort you put into it.
[3605.39] Curry: It's just like what happened on the day.
[3607.63] NJ: It's nearly always the opposite.
[3609.39] NJ: Actually, I find the ones I spend the most amount of time on are the ones with the least views.
[3614.83] NJ: Yeah, I've said it before.
[3617.79] NJ: I've said it before, one of my biggest, I mean, my tutorial stuff did really well,
[3624.91] NJ: but my still my best video that's done the best is a review of a soldering iron.
[3630.51] AndyRC: I mean, and mine's been really useful.
[3637.15] AndyRC: And the only reason that it's popular is because I was feeding geese and not ducks.
[3641.87] AndyRC: So half a million people, half a million people thought that they wanted to tell me that they
[3648.11] AndyRC: were Canadian geese and not ducks.
[3650.59] AndyRC: So it took like 15 minutes to make that video.
[3655.79] AndyRC: Another example, last year, my friend Phil decided to put an FPV camera on one of those
[3661.31] AndyRC: little bikes.
[3662.75] AndyRC: It took me less than half an hour to edit the video together.
[3667.31] AndyRC: 63,000 views in like the space in the space of two weeks where I spend sometimes 16 hours
[3674.35] AndyRC: and get to 3,000 views.
[3676.59] AndyRC: You can't think about views, man.
[3678.51] AndyRC: You've got to be enjoying it.
[3680.35] AndyRC: And I hold my hands up, right?
[3682.67] AndyRC: And someone will have said, or like, I bought something like I bought a one eight scale,
[3690.43] AndyRC: it's like huge RC motorbike.
[3693.15] AndyRC: And at the time, because I had a go of one, I was like, this is amazing.
[3697.15] AndyRC: Then it turned up.
[3698.03] AndyRC: And I was just like, oh, man, why did I do that?
[3701.15] AndyRC: I'm not, I'm not so much into it.
[3703.15] AndyRC: And, you know, you sort of, I think between the time something,
[3706.51] AndyRC: something seems like a good idea at the time.
[3708.43] AndyRC: Then when it arrives, you're like, oh, I'm definitely guilty of that for sure.
[3712.83] AndyRC: But you've got to find things that you love.
[3715.71] Frank: It's still my favorite video that I've ever made.
[3720.19] Frank: And it makes me happy every time I watch it is the LDO YouTube channel intro.
[3725.63] Tony: Yeah, I enjoyed that video a lot.
[3734.91] Jack: You've got enjoy being there all sexy and he's hardly ever here.
[3739.15] Jack: I hate.
[3742.67] Jack: I really missed you and Joe.
[3744.91] Tony: So in your sexy robot voice and you might go.
[3749.71] Curry: I can link back to our previous conversation on games to say my most popular video was
[3754.67] Curry: a Halo 2 ending, which I call the legendary ending, which has had 1.8 million views,
[3760.43] Curry: mostly people telling me that there isn't a specific legendary ending for Halo 2.
[3765.79] Curry: And thus, you are shit.
[3772.19] AndyRC: There's the genius.
[3773.15] AndyRC: Yeah, it's essentially trolling.
[3775.71] AndyRC: I always put a little mistake in my videos on purpose.
[3778.67] AndyRC: And I put the thing at first because I saw Josh doing it and I even admitted it.
[3785.07] AndyRC: It was like, you want to get views?
[3786.75] AndyRC: Put a little mistake in there because people would love to like people love correct.
[3791.47] AndyRC: I can see a lot of sense in that.
[3793.15] AndyRC: It's like I had that one that was today that somebody said,
[3798.19] AndyRC: I think you'll find it's KHP, not KPH.
[3804.35] NJ: Whatever.
[3804.91] NJ: Yeah, the pedantry is just unbelievable.
[3809.55] NJ: What I don't like, I don't mind it when people comment and they say, oh, by the way,
[3815.23] NJ: this is actually this or it's interesting, but you've got that wrong, but here's why.
[3819.79] NJ: It's when people will say you've done this massive long technical review and all they'll
[3825.23] NJ: do is just say, you said this wrong and there'll be nothing about the video.
[3830.35] NJ: Nothing to say the video is great.
[3831.79] NJ: Good information.
[3833.23] NJ: It will just say, oh, you said that wrong or you called it something when you shouldn't,
[3838.19] NJ: you should have called it this instead.
[3840.11] NJ: And you think, have you literally just come on to specifically correct me on one time?
[3844.75] NJ: It's going to make a lot of difference.
[3846.27] TTS: The answer is yes.
[3847.95] NJ: Yeah, this hobby needs a name, doesn't it?
[3852.99] NJ: It's a form of pedantry.
[3856.11] Jack: It's called sea lioning.
[3858.27] Jack: That's its actual term.
[3859.63] Jack: Really?
[3860.27] AndyRC: Is it really?
[3862.91] Jack: It's not trolling, it's sea lioning.
[3867.39] Curry: I like the people that comment as they go, which is weird because normally,
[3872.35] Curry: for me, I watch the whole video and then I decide.
[3874.59] Curry: But some people, you see a comment, it's like, why didn't you talk about this?
[3878.99] Curry: And then two seconds later, it's like, oh, okay, you did.
[3881.31] Curry: I didn't watch that bit yet.
[3882.35] Curry: And then they'll comment again at the end of saying, oh, yeah, I now watch this bit.
[3885.15] Curry: That was interesting.
[3887.87] NJ: My favorite one.
[3890.35] NJ: Sorry, go on, Jack.
[3891.63] Jack: Oh, it's a time for trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with persistent
[3896.59] Jack: requests or evidence of repeated questions while maintaining the prevalence of
[3901.31] Jack: civility and sincerity.
[3903.63] Jack: It might take the form of insistent, bad faith in variations or engaging in debate.
[3913.87] Frank: Why is it called sea lioning?
[3916.43] Jack: I don't know, but it's just like, it's the thing about being genuine and civil and then
[3924.83] Jack: just setting someone off and then maintaining that sort of level of.
[3929.55] NJ: The other the other one I thought was.
[3933.15] Jack: That's my secret impression.
[3934.43] NJ: That was more like the scheme we do.
[3939.39] NJ: That was pretty good, actually.
[3941.71] NJ: Go on, I put a video up and I use the word practice in it.
[3948.91] NJ: And that's that was the best thing I could have done, because obviously,
[3952.35] NJ: there's a couple of ways to spell practice with different meanings.
[3954.99] NJ: There's a practice is in the place.
[3956.51] NJ: And then this practices was in repetition to learn something.
[3960.27] NJ: And I put something FPV practice.
[3963.39] NJ: And I've never seen so many comments go up and then immediately get deleted after whoever's
[3969.15] NJ: tried to correct me has looked it up and realized that all these years they've been getting the
[3973.23] NJ: spelling of practice wrong.
[3976.43] NJ: That was great fun.
[3977.71] NJ: I just saw the notification come up.
[3979.31] NJ: And by the time I clicked on it to see to see their comment, it had gone already.
[3983.71] NJ: And this this happens like for a good a good few days of people.
[3987.95] AndyRC: Hey, I think about their spelling.
[3990.35] AndyRC: I think there's something we should talk about, though, because it's quite a big deal in it.
[3996.03] AndyRC: It's around sort of like Joe Rogan taking his podcast to Spotify.
[4001.95] AndyRC: I mean, we've always talked about there's no platform to compete with YouTube.
[4006.75] AndyRC: But if Spotify are going to come up with like a video platform for Joe Rogan, then
[4013.47] AndyRC: surely they're not just going to use it for Joe.
[4016.19] AndyRC: And the idea is that the platform where I now the censorship is crazy that is getting
[4022.19] AndyRC: demonetized like crazy.
[4024.51] AndyRC: And, you know, what do you think?
[4026.99] AndyRC: I think that could be I mean, it's such a big pull.
[4030.27] AndyRC: Rogan, do you think Rogan disappearing from our platform?
[4036.67] NJ: Well, if you thought the monetization of YouTube was bad,
[4039.87] NJ: you ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to Spotify.
[4042.43] NJ: I'll just say that as a musician, I know this.
[4044.67] Curry: Yeah, aren't there many musicians that just don't do Spotify?
[4049.07] Curry: Because yeah, they're literally just the play is so ridiculously small.
[4052.91] NJ: They're like, forget it's fractions, fractions of fractions of a penny.
[4056.19] AndyRC: But what if it changes, though?
[4058.27] AndyRC: I mean, I know they've Joe's got some Paul, they gave him 100 million.
[4062.99] AndyRC: A lot of artists said I would have to stream like 19 billion of my songs
[4068.27] AndyRC: to get that same amount of money.
[4070.67] AndyRC: So I think it was a lot.
[4072.11] Tony: But but I know platform then or not.
[4076.91] Tony: Or is it just going to be the actual podcast of him speaking?
[4080.11] AndyRC: Because they are watching it as well.
[4082.27] AndyRC: They're building a video platform specifically for Joe.
[4086.91] AndyRC: But I can't imagine that they're just going to keep it for Joe, you know,
[4092.51] AndyRC: you know, and if and that's going to have adverts in it as well.
[4096.59] AndyRC: So who knows what that will mean for the creator?
[4100.59] AndyRC: If it's a sort of a video, and the thing about songs as well
[4104.51] AndyRC: is they're quite short on in like three minutes, but our videos,
[4108.35] AndyRC: 20 minutes to an hour sometimes, adverts and that could that mean more?
[4113.63] AndyRC: I don't know.
[4114.27] AndyRC: I don't know.
[4115.47] Jack: We don't really make any money from streaming anywhere.
[4120.19] AndyRC: It's just I'm talking about bigger YouTube.
[4122.27] AndyRC: I'm talking about the being a new Jack.
[4127.15] AndyRC: No, not me.
[4128.59] AndyRC: I just thought it'd be an interesting conversation.
[4131.55] AndyRC: Do you think that that was going to be?
[4133.79] AndyRC: I mean, Jack thought it was going to be twitch, right?
[4136.51] AndyRC: But that's it's not it's not taken off like this platform.
[4141.07] AndyRC: But if someone as big as Rogan, you know, moves, that's that's a big thing.
[4148.91] AndyRC: Maybe just for the podcast world.
[4150.51] AndyRC: I don't know.
[4151.07] AndyRC: But if if I'm in YouTube is used for a lot of podcasts.
[4155.31] AndyRC: And, you know, if enough people go, I've got this Spotify thing now,
[4159.23] Jack: where all my major went to mixer.
[4162.83] AndyRC: So was he bigger than Rogan?
[4165.39] AndyRC: Was he?
[4167.31] Jack: Well, I don't know.
[4169.31] Jack: I don't actually care about it.
[4170.75] AndyRC: It was an interesting topic, seeing as we're talking about video creation.
[4175.55] AndyRC: And and this is the only platform, but it does seem like even after
[4181.23] Frank: you've used or have used or how you have been meant to pronounce it on there.
[4188.27] AndyRC: I agree with Frazier.
[4189.63] AndyRC: Yeah, it says the same will happen with Spotify.
[4192.11] AndyRC: Advertisers will never accept user generated content as as premium.
[4198.35] AndyRC: What I think will happen is like, I mean, YouTube used to be before Google owned it.
[4204.51] AndyRC: You could do anything on there.
[4205.87] AndyRC: People are loading TV shows.
[4208.35] AndyRC: Google took over and it started to start to feel the pinch.
[4212.99] AndyRC: And now it's like, what can you put?
[4215.55] AndyRC: And I think Spotify are going to run it.
[4218.35] AndyRC: What will probably happen is they'll just run into the same lawsuits
[4222.43] AndyRC: that YouTube came across and it'll get that same pinch.
[4227.63] AndyRC: Because essentially, it's about being demonetized about
[4232.19] AndyRC: showing other people's copyright playing a song or talking about a certain thing
[4237.71] Frank: that, you know, it's about at a point you get big enough and successful enough
[4243.79] Frank: that you're now a target for exactly what to actually behave.
[4248.91] Frank: But we've got to call it there.
[4251.31] Frank: If you want to hear our back catalog of of edited podcasts, you can go to Spotify.
[4259.87] Frank: And you should let it turn out on Spotify.
[4262.67] Frank: How did the game happen?
[4264.51] Frank: So that's an option.
[4267.23] Jack: Thank you.
[4267.87] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Throw Now.
[4269.15] Jack: You've been joined by everyone's favorite Curry kitten.
[4272.03] Jack: Goodbye.
[4273.63] Jack: I will try to call you 10% less sexy on frequent shows the more you come on.
[4278.99] Jack: NJTag.
[4280.83] NJ: See you when I believe it.
[4281.87] NJ: Bye, everyone.
[4284.27] Jack: My little love tone star that's been stolen by his African queen.
[4288.75] Jack: Onjaw.
[4291.39] Jack: He's my wife.
[4292.43] Jack: I'll have you know.
[4293.71] Jack: Uh, everyone's.
[4296.43] AndyRC: Andy, I see you couldn't be.
[4300.83] AndyRC: It just means anyone's word.
[4302.27] Jack: I was looking for was liability.
[4304.67] AndyRC: Useless.
[4305.63] AndyRC: How am I a liability man?
[4308.11] Jack: My favorite person to edit a video with Andy RC.
[4312.91] AndyRC: Well, I just want to say, Jack, if you are going to dial down the sexiness
[4316.91] AndyRC: and Jay for 10% and I'm going to lift up 10%.
[4320.03] AndyRC: So
[4321.39] Jack: it's a deal.
[4322.43] AndyRC: Good evening, everybody.
[4323.95] AndyRC: Thank you for tuning in.
[4326.43] Jack: And everyone's favorite organizer of the Mini Air show.
[4330.11] Jack: Andrew slash rank.
[4331.63] TTS: Night.
[4333.39] Jack: Thank you.
[4333.79] TTS: Bye.
[4334.43] TTS: And I'll be right back.
[4336.51] TTS: Bye.
[4338.03] TTS: Telemetry loss.