=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 250 ===
Title: LDO 250 - The Late Show
Recorded: 2020-06-11
Hosts: Andy, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 2,305
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LE3ud9QDB2o); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/839458681-letsdroneout-ldo-250-the-late-show.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello and welcome to Let's Drone Out, the best, well the only UK FPV podcast,
[6.8] Jack: sponsored by the lovely people from our Patreon, patreon.com forward slash Let's Drone Out.
[12.88] Jack: In particular we'd like to thank these guys, Art Faulkner, Mikey Dredd, Wacky Wes, David Powell.
[24.24] Jack: Thank you guys, you're the best, we can edit our podcast, thank you.
[59.12] Jack: Hello and welcome to Let's Drone Out. Tonight you are joined by my little Tony.
[67.04] Jack: Bonjour.
[68.4] Jack: Everyone's favourite curry kitten. Hello.
[72.16] Jack: Can we have a disclaimer, because the two wrongans are going to start talking.
[78.24] Curry: Two wrongans, again another alternate name for brawnies, the two wrongans, they
[83.52] Curry: put two wrongans don't make a writing. Two wrongans. Where has it gone?
[92.0] Jack: Every week, can't you just print it out and stick it on a post-it note and just have it there
[97.44] Curry: every week? I've printed it out, why would I just stick it on a post-it note?
[100.56] Curry: Why would I just put it on the post-it note? I don't know, yeah all right.
[103.76] Curry: I can't read my writing, both those are true.
[107.36] Curry: The only thing we say can not be you evidence against and you should ignore us.
[115.52] Curry: And Andy RC is a little bit sleepy and he might go a little bit off topic, so watch out for him.
[122.08] Curry: And Tony is unrestricted by Frank, so it's all bad. Just anything we say ignore us and we don't
[128.64] Curry: mean it. It's weird because our disclaimers are written around like any guests that appear may
[133.52] Curry: say stuff but we don't have any guests anymore because they've got a better podcast to do instead.
[137.76] Curry: Oh yeah, I know. Why don't we have any guests? No one likes us.
[144.16] Tony: We've gone for a long, do you remember? We've been going nearly five years,
[148.08] Tony: like we done wrote a riot before they were even good and now...
[151.92] Tony: They would just wrote a riot then. Right, let's get, all right.
[155.92] Jack: No one watches them anymore. Any of these expressed by this are all
[159.68] Jack: the individuals and we're all idiots. Don't take any of us serious.
[165.52] Jack: So you have to sue him. Yeah, no, no, totally not. I am not liable for any of you idiots
[173.28] Jack: or myself. And our other host is Andy RC.
[180.08] Jack: Hello. And I'm bright until I fly. Hello, how are you guys?
[185.6] AndyRC: Spider FPV says bring someone in from the chat. I liked when you guys did that and I wasn't here.
[190.8] AndyRC: That was fun when you were giving the people three strikes or whatever.
[198.88] Tony: Well, let's put it out there then. Does anyone want to come on now?
[203.04] AndyRC: I don't know man. Everybody was well behaved, in fact, more well behaved. In fact,
[209.44] AndyRC: if anyone deserves strikes, it was you lot. I like that one. Richard, it sounds...
[216.8] Curry: We'll include that.
[223.14] AndyRC: All right, so have we got any drone news then?
[226.98] Jack: Painless sent me some stuff to build whilst in case I go out of my tiny little mind.
[234.98] Jack: Oh, yeah, what's the same guy?
[240.26] Jack: This stuff, which I've never even heard of before. Like Z?
[249.22] Curry: Flight controller or something?
[251.06] Jack: Flight controller, an ESC stack, and a frame.
[259.3] Jack: Oh, so quad?
[260.82] Jack: Yeah, basically. I just need motors and...
[265.22] Jack: Which I've got motors. The only thing I'm really missing is an ATX.
[273.94] Jack: Oh, the ES, the EISA regs have been pushed back to next year, apparently.
[280.34] AndyRC: Oh, yeah, Andy said that, didn't he? But we haven't got him here to confirm it.
[286.1] AndyRC: December, he said, didn't he though, Andy? It's been pushed to December, not next year.
[291.86] AndyRC: But it might as well be.
[294.74] Tony: So I'm just going to have to go and do the proper test, aren't I?
[297.7] Tony: So we keep waiting for this thing to change.
[300.5] Tony: I don't remember.
[301.3] Curry: Can we have our motors down 50 back?
[303.62] Tony: Yeah.
[304.34] Tony: I know. What a joke.
[306.26] Tony: Has anyone labelled their quads or put numbers on it or anything? I haven't done anything.
[310.9] AndyRC: Yes, of course, everybody has, Tony. That's the law.
[316.82] Curry: I was going to say, I haven't done it.
[318.5] Curry: It keeps getting put back, so you don't have to still,
[321.22] Curry: as long as you're a member of one of those organisations, like we all are.
[324.66] AndyRC: Yeah.
[326.02] AndyRC: I think, if you remember the BMFA, you've got an operator ID and it's got to go on the side of
[333.3] AndyRC: your model, hasn't it? It says, well, we need Andy. And I need to tell him.
[336.98] AndyRC: I know. I'm sorry.
[338.5] AndyRC: I've got an operator. I've got an operator ID. It's on my batteries.
[344.26] Curry: Well, I've got an ID.
[345.7] Curry: You don't have to label it, didn't it, from July and going onwards and onwards,
[351.22] Curry: so there's still no requirement to do it, as far as I remember.
[355.7] Curry: We need Frank to turn up to actually tell us if that's true.
[358.42] AndyRC: He's probably listened to this, pulling his hair out, going, shut up, you don't.
[362.34] AndyRC: That's how we're done. We actually know the answer, that's how we get Frank.
[367.7] AndyRC: So we're getting him on.
[368.5] Curry: I'll be enjoying him so much, he will come back on to us.
[372.98] Tony: So I saw a picture of you on Instagram, Currie, with your massive sky, is it a sky hook?
[379.54] Curry: The sky hook. Yeah, I finished fixing it from the...
[382.42] Jack: I don't think it was that bad, damn honest.
[385.22] Tony: So are you going to fly that, Currie?
[387.94] Curry: Yes, but I'm going to have to wait until we're a little bit more relaxed again,
[392.18] Curry: because I need to go somewhere and be in close proximity to a couple of people
[397.78] Curry: and fly around and stuff.
[400.34] Tony: I think you can do that now.
[401.94] Curry: I'm expecting better things for this time. The only thing that went wrong last time
[406.58] Curry: is it was a little bit underpowered, but it was flying okay,
[410.58] Curry: but the tail boom wasn't secured in and it started turning during flight.
[415.3] Curry: And the guy handed the controls over to land it as he was a good line of sight pilot, crashed it.
[424.9] AndyRC: Why do you need things more relaxed to fly it?
[428.02] AndyRC: You've got that big, huge field that you were flying your hornet in
[432.82] AndyRC: that I was watching the other day. You can't go there.
[436.9] Curry: That's not there anymore.
[438.98] Andy: That's not there anymore? You were there last week?
[442.34] Curry: Oh, the hornet, which is the hornet.
[445.22] Curry: The green hornet.
[450.34] Curry: That's not big enough for that plane. And to transport that plane there is a 40-minute walk,
[455.38] Curry: and that plane's a lot to carry.
[456.58] Curry: So I need to go somewhere else, which is a car journey.
[460.82] AndyRC: A 40-minute walk for those cenewook things.
[466.9] Curry: Yeah. It used to be about when we, and I say we as Jack and Tony, obviously you lived a bit
[475.62] Curry: further away, and he came to my field. That was about, it's from my house.
[480.26] Curry: But again, it is round through the woods, off on a merry old journey,
[489.14] Curry: skip over the fence, get in a field and hope no cars are there on that particular day.
[494.74] Curry: And yeah, it's 40 minutes.
[496.1] Tony: Robin, anything he says, can't you drive in England still?
[499.54] Tony: Question mark?
[500.5] Curry: Yeah, we can drive.
[501.94] Curry: Drive, but I'm still kind of taking it easier for close proximity because I want to meet up
[508.1] Curry: with a couple of people to fly it. Because last time we got some different fly-throughs
[513.7] Curry: of different things and stuff, but it will be coming up. But one of the main reasons
[518.42] Curry: I wanted to fix it so I could just put it back in the box for now and create some space.
[523.54] Curry: My wife came in and said, this room's a disaster. So I printed out some things to put quads on the
[528.18] Curry: wall, and she's like, well, quads on the wall looks awful. I think she just wanted me to throw
[531.78] Curry: things away. Smashed it.
[534.1] AndyRC: Or go do a giveaway, maybe.
[538.02] Curry: That would mean I'd have to go to the post office.
[540.58] Curry: Oh, yeah, that's true.
[541.86] Curry: Which I'm not doing still at the moment.
[544.42] Jack: Don't fancy that.
[547.78] Jack: I've had to drop a few things off to there, and all I can say is some sort of fresh hell.
[555.86] Jack: You know, you thought it was bad. I used to hate grocery shopping, and now I'd rather do that daily.
[569.94] Tony: Shopping's just horrible at the moment.
[572.74] Tony: Do you remember what you asked for? And I totally forgot I bought this for you.
[578.5] Tony: Oh, yes.
[581.94] Tony: It's been sitting on my side since November when I went to Houston. I literally just forgot it.
[589.78] Tony: I've got it out now, so next time I'm traveling down to Brighton or whatever, I'll give it to you.
[595.14] Jack: You've got a garden, so I might come and visit you at some point.
[599.38] Jack: Yeah, you can come and sit in the garden.
[600.82] Jack: Yeah.
[601.54] Jack: Come and get this.
[603.46] Jack: Might come and see yours.
[606.42] AndyRC: Oh, yeah, I was going to say, if you're on your own, you're allowed another person
[611.22] AndyRC: to come into your house now, but Tony's not on his own, is he?
[613.86] AndyRC: Not on my own.
[615.06] AndyRC: He'll be next week.
[620.02] AndyRC: Yeah, but there's a new rule coming, isn't there, that if you live on your own.
[625.7] Jack: Yeah, if you're a bachelor, or as I like to call it, a sad person who lives on their own,
[631.46] Jack: because they're completely intolerable to deal with.
[636.26] AndyRC: What are the rules about having it away with them, Mike?
[642.82] AndyRC: Don't know, that's Boris.
[645.3] Jack: Yeah, first thing I'm going to do, lick Tony's face.
[651.46] Jack: You've still got to work through all of this.
[653.46] Jack: Yeah, so I promised painless I would get on this old little quad and do some...
[662.9] AndyRC: Why is it a freestyle?
[666.42] Jack: It looks a bit racy, man.
[669.86] Jack: I mean, it looks really small and racy.
[676.82] Jack: Yeah, it is a racing drone frame, five inch.
[679.86] Jack: And there's a little taster of what it looks like.
[682.18] AndyRC: Yeah, it looks like the Transtech laser light frame.
[694.5] Jack: If anyone wants to...
[696.1] Jack: Does anyone have a QR code if I stay there long enough?
[701.86] Jack: That's not going to work, is it?
[704.9] AndyRC: Oh, it's in focus.
[706.9] AndyRC: Why don't you just scan it, Jack, and tell us where it sends it.
[709.86] AndyRC: Probably just going to send you to that Z.
[712.02] AndyRC: It's got Zs written in the middle, so I imagine it's just going to take you to their website.
[716.5] AndyRC: I want to...
[716.98] AndyRC: Yeah, totally.
[720.67] Jack: Yeah, four to eight weeks and then the parcel goes missing.
[724.83] Jack: Yeah, I've had that.
[725.79] Jack: I thought I've had one parcel missing from the old royal mails.
[733.63] Jack: How have you guys been doing?
[734.91] Jack: Have you been... who's been getting orders?
[737.39] Jack: Anyone bought anything interesting or done anything?
[739.95] Tony: I bought a hammock and it arrived completely different to what I wanted it to be.
[747.87] Tony: So the picture and what they tell me it was is completely different to what arrived.
[752.91] Tony: So PayPal disputes going on at the moment.
[756.11] Jack: Oh, joy.
[757.55] Tony: Yeah, but nothing flying, I'm afraid.
[760.19] Tony: No flying stuff.
[761.71] Curry: I've noticed orders from Banggood and normally they send them...
[765.55] Curry: I don't know what they do.
[766.75] Curry: They send them some dodgy way they figured out for review stuff.
[770.91] Curry: So they managed to send it quickly into the UK and then it gets dispatched into the UK and comes
[777.39] Curry: to us fairly quickly.
[779.23] Curry: But it's been really slow lately.
[781.47] Curry: I don't know what's going on with that.
[783.55] Jack: Yeah, from what I heard, they've kind of got like a little backhand deal as far as I know.
[796.75] Tony: I like the new Google things.
[799.07] Tony: That you reviewed, Andy, whatever they're called.
[801.71] AndyRC: Oh, that was amazing.
[803.95] AndyRC: Yeah, I was really...
[805.55] AndyRC: And they're from the UK, which is...
[807.39] AndyRC: Yeah, British company.
[809.23] AndyRC: That is so rare to be sent a product from a British company and just be absolutely amazing
[818.99] AndyRC: as well and they ship worldwide free shipping.
[824.83] AndyRC: Decent price.
[826.67] AndyRC: Yeah, British drone industries.
[830.03] AndyRC: The Digi adapter for analog for your DJI goggles.
[835.79] AndyRC: I'm still that close to going on binds and DJI.
[841.47] AndyRC: It's interesting the amount of people that sent them over the edge actually.
[846.43] AndyRC: Just the fact that...
[847.87] Tony: Yeah, it's just easy.
[849.47] AndyRC: You've been able to do analog through the goggles for a while,
[852.83] AndyRC: but I think that me just showing it was just two screws that it done really.
[859.79] AndyRC: That was it.
[861.15] AndyRC: Even I would sort of...
[862.27] AndyRC: I thought, oh, this is going to be a bit of a pain to...
[865.79] AndyRC: But no, it's all just really two screws holding that front plate in and that's it.
[872.19] Tony: Yeah, it looks good.
[873.39] Tony: So I can fly me old stuff and my new stuff on them.
[877.15] Tony: Yeah.
[878.99] Tony: I've still got to buy the bullet and buy one.
[881.55] Tony: Can you buy the goggles and then a quad already made up with all the air unit in?
[886.75] Tony: Because I don't know.
[890.03] AndyRC: Can but it's expensive town.
[892.91] Jack: Do you want to talk about this?
[894.27] Jack: Robin FPV said, I asked for a UK frame record.
[902.83] Curry: I asked for UK frame recommendations.
[905.07] Curry: Perish FPV jumped in and nobody said anything.
[907.63] Curry: Ordered from there and just got a postal update in Portuguese.
[912.83] AndyRC: Ordered from where?
[915.92] Curry: Something FPV.
[917.44] Curry: Irish FPV, Perishi FPV.
[920.16] Curry: Hey, Frank's back.
[921.76] Jack: Frank, we don't take you for granted.
[925.28] Jack: We don't take you for granted.
[927.84] Jack: Where have you been?
[929.36] Jack: What happened?
[930.48] Jack: Are they treating you well?
[932.96] Frank: Yeah, I just lost track of time.
[934.96] Frank: I was just having dinner and got chatting with my flatmates.
[939.52] Frank: And I'd left my phone in my room and just lost track of time.
[943.68] Frank: Sorry.
[944.16] Tony: Oh, naughty.
[947.6] Jack: If we were some of the delusional hosts that we've had on here,
[952.16] Jack: they would have thought, what happened to them clapping the beginning of Let's Drone out?
[960.08] Jack: That was a joke, by the way.
[961.36] Jack: I don't think they're that delusional.
[963.68] Jack: But it's a really poor taste joke.
[967.28] Jack: But yeah, without the clapping and the pop banging, I don't know what day it is anymore.
[972.4] Tony: What frame did you want?
[974.0] Tony: Who shouted that out?
[976.72] Tony: I don't understand that question.
[979.76] Tony: I look on Menace's site or Fossil's site.
[982.4] Tony: There's some good stuff on there.
[983.76] Tony: There's, well, do you want racing or do you want...
[987.76] AndyRC: I think the problem is that...
[989.36] AndyRC: What do you want?
[991.28] AndyRC: A lot of the UK stuff still comes from...
[996.48] AndyRC: I mean, everything comes from China, doesn't it?
[998.8] Jack: It's not a blanket racist statement.
[1001.76] Jack: I do apologize for him.
[1003.68] Jack: Well, it's not.
[1004.4] AndyRC: It's just it's a fact.
[1007.28] AndyRC: I was explaining that all of the cool stuff that we get to do that comes from China.
[1017.52] AndyRC: Yeah, I know.
[1018.0] AndyRC: Apart from the Digiadapter.
[1021.84] AndyRC: Where did the chips come from in the...
[1024.08] AndyRC: Well, I know of Archon Frames.
[1030.24] AndyRC: But yeah, a lot of this stuff comes from China.
[1032.64] AndyRC: And that's why a lot of people...
[1034.88] AndyRC: I've noticed LiPo's especially seems to be a huge...
[1039.44] AndyRC: I went to...
[1040.16] AndyRC: I needed some LiPo's.
[1041.44] AndyRC: I was like, nope.
[1043.36] AndyRC: No stock until July.
[1045.28] AndyRC: What?
[1046.72] Tony: You know, that's what I could do with a few more.
[1050.88] AndyRC: Yeah, well, all of my success, LiPo is dead.
[1053.84] AndyRC: And I really need some more.
[1058.0] AndyRC: Have you killed a wolf?
[1060.08] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah.
[1061.12] Frank: Do you not have a sponsor?
[1063.2] AndyRC: I do not.
[1064.0] AndyRC: I don't have any sponsors, no.
[1065.92] AndyRC: Well, Zidane's got a better sponsor, isn't he?
[1067.76] Tony: I've seen you one and you're telling me to shut up.
[1070.96] Tony: And Jay has.
[1071.68] Tony: Yeah, actually, I wouldn't mind trying some of them Ready Eddie.
[1075.12] Curry: Yeah, Ready Eddie, yeah.
[1076.4] Curry: I'm going to try one night or something.
[1078.0] Curry: Shall we keep saying Ready Eddie and see if they sponsor us as well?
[1080.8] Curry: Because I hear they're fantastic batteries.
[1084.56] Curry: Ready Eddie, no other battery does it.
[1088.56] AndyRC: I kind of don't like having a sponsor though, you know.
[1092.24] Andy: You'll find me on my YouTube channel, Ready Eddie.
[1094.8] Curry: Just send them over.
[1095.92] Curry: I'll test them for you.
[1097.28] AndyRC: So it means that you have to, you know, if you have a battery...
[1103.36] Jack: Why all are you?
[1107.15] AndyRC: What?
[1108.03] AndyRC: I'll tell it.
[1109.07] AndyRC: Maybe I can tell you.
[1110.35] Jack: I just thought it'd be quite funny for us to tweet them and be like,
[1113.71] Jack: yeah, we're talking about you positively on the show.
[1120.59] Jack: From the...
[1125.07] Curry: Look, Mikey Dred agrees.
[1127.79] Curry: Mikey Eddie.
[1128.91] Curry: By the end of the show, we want some Ready Eddie batteries being sent to us.
[1132.27] Curry: There we go.
[1133.23] AndyRC: That's how it's spelled.
[1134.99] AndyRC: There you go.
[1135.55] AndyRC: It's Ready and then EDI at the end.
[1140.11] AndyRC: And then it says, are you ready?
[1142.27] AndyRC: Yeah.
[1142.83] AndyRC: MJ gave me that.
[1144.19] AndyRC: I think it was Makerspace.
[1148.03] Curry: Anybody heard this?
[1149.39] Curry: Damon has written, AC did good LiPose,
[1151.87] Curry: but I've heard they've gone out of business.
[1153.79] Curry: I really like those LiPose.
[1155.15] Curry: Has anybody else heard about them?
[1156.27] Tony: I've never heard one then.
[1157.47] Tony: I actually tell a lie.
[1158.67] Tony: I did fly...
[1160.27] Tony: There's the green ones, aren't there?
[1161.79] Tony: Yeah, one of the...
[1163.55] AndyRC: It changes those a lot as well.
[1167.15] Curry: My smaller 3s and 4s is on my 3 inches and 2 inches at ACs.
[1172.43] Curry: They're really good.
[1174.59] AndyRC: Yeah.
[1175.07] AndyRC: Anyways, now that Andy's here,
[1178.51] AndyRC: we were saying some things that we didn't...
[1181.39] AndyRC: We were making facts up, weren't we?
[1183.31] Andy: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[1186.35] Andy: I said Andy.
[1187.79] Curry: Do you have to label your budget?
[1189.79] Curry: And I thought it had been put back.
[1191.95] Curry: As long as you're a member of one of the organisations,
[1194.03] Curry: you don't have to do it yet.
[1195.55] Frank: Yeah, it has been put back.
[1198.75] Frank: Back in March, it was put back to November,
[1201.71] Frank: but now it's been put back all the way to the end of the year.
[1205.39] Frank: For the entirety of 2020, the rules are staying the same.
[1208.67] Frank: You don't need to worry about them.
[1210.11] AndyRC: No, yeah, rules.
[1211.31] AndyRC: But what about putting your operator ID on your model though?
[1216.11] AndyRC: Do you need to do that?
[1217.15] AndyRC: Do we need an operator ID?
[1219.55] Frank: As long as you're a member of one of the associations,
[1224.35] Frank: then nothing has changed.
[1226.83] Tony: So we don't have to have numbers and put them on the quads?
[1230.99] Frank: Even though you've got...
[1231.95] Curry: Oh, fair enough.
[1233.55] Curry: Even though Jack's invested in a laser cutter to do it for people.
[1237.95] Curry: No.
[1238.91] Curry: Well, yeah, true.
[1241.55] Tony: He just writes Tony's guy on the wing, and that's it.
[1246.83] Curry: Is that your operator ID?
[1247.95] Curry: Because I'll just write that on my wing as well,
[1249.55] Curry: and that must be Tony's.
[1250.83] Frank: Robin FPV asked what's the reference for the date?
[1258.11] Frank: The reference is the latest version of CAP 1789,
[1265.15] Frank: which was issued 4th of June.
[1268.75] Frank: There was the update that nothing's happening till...
[1273.95] Frank: And this is actually...
[1275.79] Frank: Well, either way, nothing's happening till 31st of December 2020.
[1280.35] AndyRC: And we should say it's already been pushed back once before as well.
[1285.71] AndyRC: So that date necessarily isn't in concrete, is it?
[1290.35] Frank: No.
[1291.47] Frank: And then there's also this talk about the remote ID,
[1295.55] Frank: which I do have some information about as well.
[1298.43] AndyRC: What, coming to the UK or Europe or whatever?
[1302.11] Frank: So yeah, so it's been...
[1304.11] Frank: So in this latest version of the kind of intentions
[1308.03] Frank: for the implementations of the new rules,
[1311.47] Frank: there was included a little mention of remote ID basically saying,
[1316.83] Frank: we're thinking about...
[1317.63] Frank: We should probably do that in like 2023-ish maybe,
[1320.91] Frank: if we get around to it.
[1322.27] Frank: But we haven't really worked out what it's going to be.
[1328.59] Frank: Well, yes, essentially.
[1331.55] Frank: And so the message here is they haven't defined it yet.
[1339.71] Frank: From what I've heard, they don't favor the US-style system.
[1343.95] Frank: If they think they can get it defined, agreed,
[1346.43] Frank: and manufacturers implementing it in new drones by 2022,
[1350.27] Frank: they're smoking some good stuff.
[1352.51] Frank: I'm...
[1353.71] Frank: Yeah, there we go.
[1355.95] Frank: Smoking some good stuff.
[1357.79] Frank: Yeah, maybe it might not be the official press release.
[1363.87] Frank: The CAAUASEC working group,
[1368.19] Frank: i.e. the group of people that are kind of going to be working
[1370.51] Frank: this kind of stuff out, haven't had a meeting yet, but...
[1376.03] AndyRC: Well, it can't, it should be not allowed.
[1378.91] Frank: Not even a Zoom meeting yet.
[1382.75] Frank: But that will be kind of a big topic for them there.
[1386.59] AndyRC: Almost seems like it's not important, doesn't it?
[1390.91] AndyRC: When they could be having Zoom and stuff like that, you know?
[1394.11] Frank: Currently, the FAA has been trying to get EASA to follow the FAA system of...
[1400.91] Frank: I don't know if anyone's been following this, kind of what the FAA had been doing.
[1405.31] Frank: The kind of suggestion there is that you have
[1408.75] Frank: lots of different private companies running their own
[1412.11] Frank: servers that take live information that gets reported back to these servers
[1418.27] Frank: that then can be interrogated by whoever.
[1421.79] Frank: But that's a really crap way of doing things.
[1427.87] Frank: I imagine a couple of years ago, maybe even a few years ago by now, in the UK,
[1435.39] Frank: the suggestion was that it be kind of a no term style system
[1439.63] Frank: where you don't even have an actual broadcast of information,
[1444.59] Frank: but you just kind of say, I'm going to be flying here today.
[1450.67] Frank: Don't mind me.
[1452.83] Frank: Yeah.
[1454.35] Frank: And that was kind of the suggestion.
[1457.55] Curry: Well, if it costs millions of pounds to create what is essentially a small database,
[1464.83] Curry: then I staggered to think what the quotes are going to come in that a real tracking system
[1470.11] Curry: from everybody flying a drone at every time to update, spread the information around
[1475.63] Curry: all police forces and pretty much everybody anywhere is going to cost.
[1479.87] Frank: At least, you know, no term is a system that has been in place for a good long while.
[1485.55] Frank: I don't know if anyone else has put out a no term ever, but it's actually really bloody easy.
[1491.07] Frank: Yeah, there's a template that the UK Rocket Free Association have written,
[1496.83] Frank: and you copy and paste that and delete the bits that apply to rockets.
[1500.83] Frank: And you put in the bit that applies to model aircraft, and then you send it.
[1505.47] Frank: And then you as an email, and then you wait a few days.
[1511.07] Frank: And then you get a little thing back saying, yeah, you're on there now.
[1514.91] AndyRC: Think how air balloons have to do that, don't they?
[1517.15] AndyRC: I mean, you think how spontaneous how spontaneous how air balloon rides have to be due to them.
[1524.99] Curry: Let's come it up for Frank.
[1526.43] Curry: Do you know how many people actually registered at this point?
[1531.31] Frank: I think I've definitely asked the question.
[1536.03] Frank: I think it's probably not something they've been taking on giving an answer to, but
[1540.91] Frank: more than you'd imagine, but not enough to warrant the cost.
[1544.83] AndyRC: I mean, you know, there has been a significant drop in general aviation and aviation in general.
[1553.47] AndyRC: So there are, you know, surely let there's less of a threat from drones when you have to have
[1560.67] AndyRC: nothing to sign.
[1561.79] AndyRC: Yeah, you have to know what's going on with the aviation industry, because
[1566.35] AndyRC: nobody knows.
[1567.07] AndyRC: I mean, just hearing in the news daily that it's just in trouble, basically.
[1572.99] Jack: Like, this is going to be a controversial thing to say.
[1575.15] Jack: And I do apologize if it upsets anyone.
[1577.63] Jack: Ready?
[1580.75] Jack: The only one good thing that this pandemic has done is put things into perspective.
[1586.67] Jack: Like, you know, drones aren't going to kill you.
[1589.15] Jack: A virus that you could probably pick up from the supermarket is more likely to do that.
[1596.67] AndyRC: Yeah, well, it is true.
[1598.75] Jack: How many people have I offended, Frank?
[1600.83] Jack: Do you need me to leave?
[1604.51] AndyRC: It's constantly.
[1606.35] AndyRC: Yeah, that's always been the case.
[1608.19] AndyRC: That's always been our argument.
[1610.11] AndyRC: You know, it's finding a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, isn't it?
[1617.55] AndyRC: Yeah.
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[1643.63] Curry: So has anybody done anything of late till it started raining?
[1648.67] Tony: I haven't flown all week.
[1650.99] Tony: I'm hopefully going to go out Saturday or Sunday.
[1653.15] Tony: The weather looks better Saturday and Sunday.
[1655.15] Tony: I don't know what the wind's going to be like.
[1656.59] Tony: It's been windy as well, isn't it?
[1659.31] Tony: It's been pretty bad all over.
[1660.99] Tony: No, I want to fly my wing again.
[1662.99] Tony: I've got it repaired.
[1664.67] Frank: Carried and working on my bicopter.
[1667.79] Curry: Oh, you have a video from me showing them moving.
[1672.59] Frank: I still haven't quite sorted this out or anything.
[1678.46] Frank: Sorry, there's a microphone there.
[1680.38] Frank: Like a huge capacitor.
[1683.82] Frank: I slightly misjudged which.
[1685.74] Jack: Oh, sorry, we're not.
[1690.94] Jack: Oh, my God, the size of a capacitor.
[1693.34] Jack: The cell battery's hanging off the end of it.
[1696.86] Frank: But it was what components had.
[1701.42] Frank: I think it was components.
[1703.9] Frank: Whoever I bought all this stuff from had in stock.
[1707.74] Frank: And I was like, oh, it's a bit bigger than I'd usually go for.
[1710.14] Frank: But I'm sure it would be fine.
[1712.06] Frank: Oh, that is so much.
[1715.82] Curry: From the angle, it looks like that prop's going to hit the wing on my left, your right.
[1722.78] Andy: The other one is tilted.
[1724.86] Curry: That's what it is.
[1727.02] Curry: It looks pretty close, though.
[1728.94] Frank: It does get pretty close.
[1730.86] Frank: That capacitor is tiny.
[1734.7] Jack: Yeah, I think you need a bigger one, Frank.
[1738.14] Tony: A really big capacitor.
[1740.62] Tony: I thought you were trying to power it with a super capacitor.
[1746.14] Tony: Just charge that up and just let it fly.
[1748.14] Tony: I'm going to get my capacitor out of the roof.
[1751.58] Jack: He could probably unplug his battery and launch it again.
[1760.3] Frank: Why is the bridge tilted?
[1761.98] Frank: It's because it's like a bike.
[1763.1] Frank: So the idea is...
[1765.66] Frank: Thrust vectoring.
[1767.1] Frank: It can take off and land vertically because it's got
[1774.86] Frank: two thrust vectoring props.
[1777.82] Frank: Does it only do it on the one axis, Andy?
[1782.06] Frank: No, it's got...
[1783.34] Frank: Well, so each one is on a single axis, yeah.
[1787.66] AndyRC: So you're going to be relying on control surfaces for some of the half, are you?
[1795.26] Frank: No, so by tilting them both one way or the other way,
[1803.18] Frank: it would do roll by tilting them in different directions.
[1809.5] Frank: And then you're like a quad does your by differential thrust.
[1817.98] AndyRC: I had a model that did something similar to that.
[1820.78] AndyRC: And there was a problem with the wing acting as like acted against.
[1831.9] AndyRC: No, it wasn't differential thrust, foot thrust, differential thrust.
[1839.74] Andy: What is that?
[1841.1] Tony: That is a capacitor.
[1843.26] Jack: I thought it was a flask of coffee.
[1845.18] Jack: Tony, you put that down.
[1848.62] Frank: A building time machine.
[1851.58] Jack: That better be...
[1852.22] Frank: Yeah, it's a flux capacitor.
[1855.1] Jack: Mate, that better be discharged.
[1857.42] Tony: One million, two hundred thousand UF, 1.2 Farad.
[1861.74] Jack: Oh my God, that could blow your dick off, kind of, isn't it?
[1864.7] Jack: Send it to big Clive.
[1866.3] Jack: That's a big one, isn't it?
[1868.46] Jack: Clive, where did you get that from?
[1872.38] Jack: Building a time machine.
[1874.78] Jack: No, you can't.
[1875.66] Jack: You can't even build a Lego set.
[1878.22] Jack: You might need it.
[1880.06] Andy: Well, where might we be going?
[1882.54] Curry: Connected with duct tape, as Tony often does.
[1886.62] Tony: What's on the end of that?
[1888.94] Tony: How old is duct tape?
[1892.06] AndyRC: Robin FPV says, I flew a new racing quad.
[1895.42] AndyRC: I flew a track at a new school place.
[1899.02] AndyRC: We've got Tries My Insta 360 Go on said racing quad
[1904.14] AndyRC: and continued to fail, getting the results from real steady.
[1908.94] AndyRC: I didn't know the Insta 360 Go worked with real steady.
[1913.02] AndyRC: Does it?
[1913.58] AndyRC: Or is that something I don't know about?
[1916.54] AndyRC: I thought Insta 360 Go was an independent thing and they've just...
[1926.38] AndyRC: I know there's a naked GoPro and Insta 360 group,
[1930.86] AndyRC: but I think that is just because they achieve similar things
[1935.34] AndyRC: in that the stability inside the Insta 360 Go rather than...
[1940.78] AndyRC: I could be wrong, but as far as I was aware,
[1944.3] AndyRC: real steady Go only works with their GoPro gyro data.
[1950.46] Tony: And I thought the little 360 was fine anyway.
[1954.94] Tony: I thought it was all right on its own.
[1957.02] Tony: Yes, that is from a subwoofer in the car.
[1960.38] AndyRC: That was Robin FPV anyways.
[1962.22] AndyRC: I thought it just shut down.
[1963.5] AndyRC: Yeah, well done.
[1967.58] AndyRC: Yeah.
[1968.22] AndyRC: And John Copies and DLC.
[1971.58] AndyRC: Thanks for the video about the DJI Go.
[1973.26] AndyRC: Yeah, that's that.
[1975.42] AndyRC: The Digi Adaptor UK.
[1977.98] AndyRC: Yeah, amazing innovation from the UK.
[1981.34] AndyRC: Wish we could see more of it for like quad stuff and FPV.
[1989.1] AndyRC: Yeah.
[1989.34] AndyRC: What's it called?
[1989.98] AndyRC: FlowState on the 360, Insta 360.
[1993.02] AndyRC: The 360 Go has its ability thing.
[1995.82] AndyRC: It's also got a new FPV stabilizing.
[1998.62] AndyRC: But Robin, does it integrate with real steady Go?
[2004.14] AndyRC: Is that what you're saying?
[2006.62] AndyRC: The only reason I'm asking, that's what I'm working on at the moment.
[2016.06] AndyRC: Keep saying I want to buy one and I haven't bought one yet.
[2018.54] AndyRC: You wouldn't believe how small it is.
[2020.14] AndyRC: It's like the size of your thumb, if you think how big it is.
[2026.62] AndyRC: It's 20 grams.
[2029.98] Jack: So I got a, earlier on the week, I was chatting to Andrew slash rank.
[2038.3] Jack: And I had an email from, do you remember this place?
[2042.62] Jack: Hobbyking, and they've released a new, they've got a flash deal on for the AXN floater.
[2056.05] Jack: Look at that.
[2056.77] Jack: Check that out.
[2057.41] Curry: It's like, that was my first plane.
[2062.93] Jack: I mean, why would you call anything a floater?
[2067.33] Tony: Very Kevin and Perry, isn't it?
[2069.41] Jack: Yeah.
[2071.25] AndyRC: Uh, Andy, I see.
[2072.53] AndyRC: No, that was myself.
[2074.45] AndyRC: Okay.
[2075.81] AndyRC: Now I got it.
[2078.21] AndyRC: Uh, apparently, uh, that did you adapt to, like, what was, what was that?
[2087.12] AndyRC: I missed that one.
[2089.12] AndyRC: Somebody said that there's struggling for stock today.
[2092.96] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2093.76] AndyRC: Oh yeah.
[2094.56] AndyRC: I mean, yeah, I thought it was good, but everybody was like,
[2098.48] AndyRC: I kept getting all these comments.
[2099.68] AndyRC: Right.
[2100.4] AndyRC: I'm buying, buying.
[2101.36] AndyRC: And I was like, oh wow.
[2102.32] AndyRC: Okay.
[2103.04] AndyRC: That, that was what was stopping you buying, going digital.
[2108.0] AndyRC: That's the way you go.
[2109.76] Frank: Is, uh, is Hobbyking still at elms it?
[2114.24] Jack: Yeah.
[2115.2] Frank: Is there still that office covered in stickers?
[2119.2] Jack: I believe so.
[2120.24] Jack: And the Range Rover that we stole.
[2125.04] Jack: I went for a joy ride.
[2126.72] Jack: Um, yeah, as far as I know, I looked it up and, uh, like, got their phone numbers
[2133.76] Jack: and it's like, they got a special pickup time and I think they're still shipping.
[2138.8] Jack: But last time I visited there, they'd moved out from like the main warehouse
[2143.92] Jack: and they've like downsized a lot of stuff and moved it to the back as far as I know.
[2150.08] Jack: So, um, but, you know,
[2155.41] AndyRC: you try to order a floater and they didn't have any and stuff.
[2158.93] Jack: Yeah.
[2159.17] Jack: They said they crushed it.
[2161.65] Jack: Um, so I don't know, man, it would be, it'd be kind of nice to go there.
[2168.05] Jack: And it'd be nice to have another event, but it's just not the same without like,
[2174.61] Jack: you know, Stuart or, you know, the old sort of like last, you know,
[2180.13] Jack: last mini air show exactly the same weekend.
[2183.33] Jack: They had a warehouse sale, so you could, you could have gone up there,
[2188.93] Jack: bought all their old returns and, you know,
[2194.13] Jack: or you could have a good time with us.
[2196.29] Jack: So, and we chose Poppin.
[2201.33] Jack: It was, you know, and we all had laughed, didn't we?
[2204.05] Jack: Frank, are you missing the date or are you just, you know,
[2206.77] Jack: is there shells going off and planes flying over?
[2209.57] Frank: And I was thinking, you know, it would have been this weekend coming up
[2219.81] Frank: that we'd be going up to, uh, um, his way.
[2226.69] AndyRC: Oh, yeah.
[2227.33] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2227.81] AndyRC: Well, it'd be washout, uh, apparently two weeks forecast of rain up here.
[2232.61] AndyRC: So we're probably probably best that you don't
[2235.73] Tony: realize this weekend down South Saturday and Sunday.
[2238.29] Tony: I don't know if it's going to be windy, but I think it's turning better.
[2244.45] Tony: Having another mini heatway for eight days as well, right?
[2247.65] Tony: I don't know.
[2249.73] Curry: Because it's been nothing but absolute rubbish here.
[2252.77] AndyRC: The country I live in has got rain up as far as the eye can see.
[2257.33] Jack: But we see telling you up for North is not its own country.
[2261.17] AndyRC: Well, you made me think it has.
[2264.69] AndyRC: You say it's everything's so different and I just feel so, I feel an outcast.
[2272.69] Jack: Sorry with my fault or our fault that you won't leave your house to come hang out with us.
[2279.57] AndyRC: You can't, you're not, it's against the law.
[2283.57] Andy: Oh, it's for all this.
[2286.53] Andy: Well, it's against the law now.
[2287.97] Andy: So that's my he's just ahead of the curve.
[2290.53] Andy: Yeah, I was just planning, you see.
[2293.73] Curry: And he's sort of his owner.
[2296.13] Curry: I've not seen us because we went through a war Sunday down to see where my field is and
[2301.25] Curry: sort of around the and generally speaking, these are sort of described as the secret
[2308.21] Curry: because all these tracks are just go through the woods and nobody will go in the main
[2312.53] Curry: place. But there were like a hundred people jogging and riding bikes.
[2317.09] Curry: It's like everybody's using their local area as a sort of place of a place to have fun.
[2322.93] Frank: Like where I there's a little getting in the way with their fun.
[2328.29] AndyRC: Yeah, I use it to pick people having in what is just a thing in and out.
[2336.29] AndyRC: Wayne's gone on potato.
[2337.73] AndyRC: What's happening is the old Netflix.
[2342.29] Curry: We're going to say it looks good to me.
[2344.05] Andy: Yeah, you got to do it.
[2345.17] Andy: Look good.
[2345.81] Andy: Sounds awful.
[2346.61] Andy: So your audience is putting out.
[2350.29] Jack: Oi, Andy R.C. You're northern.
[2353.65] Jack: Yes, apparently so.
[2355.65] Jack: What is an Offit? O-F-F-I-T.
[2362.69] AndyRC: Offit.
[2363.33] AndyRC: And they're like when you've had too many drugs and you're completely off it.
[2368.77] Jack: Oi, you.
[2369.33] Jack: You get off it.
[2371.25] Jack: Yeah, Offit is used as a crude slang term for someone who's a sandwich short of a picnic.
[2378.69] AndyRC: Yeah, Offit.
[2381.09] AndyRC: That's about right.
[2381.97] AndyRC: Yeah, Off the tits.
[2384.05] Jack: Off the tits all over my re-lands.
[2390.37] AndyRC: Say tits, can't you?
[2391.49] AndyRC: It's a type of bird.
[2393.01] Jack: Yeah, it's a great tit.
[2395.73] Jack: Oh, I love a pair of great tits.
[2397.73] Jack: Yeah, man.
[2400.77] Jack: It's only fit, just perch there.
[2406.13] Jack: Right.
[2407.65] Jack: Curry, are you frozen?
[2409.17] Jack: Hello.
[2410.13] AndyRC: Oh, it's better now.
[2411.25] Tony: It's still a bit my tater still.
[2412.93] Tony: It's still a tater still.
[2414.05] Tony: I think he's a household.
[2416.77] Jack: Yeah, go downstairs and scream at your life to use the internet and that there's definitely
[2421.57] Jack: enough bandwidth.
[2424.85] Curry: There is enough bandwidth.
[2425.97] Curry: I don't know what's going on.
[2427.57] Curry: But there's so many people doing everything.
[2431.25] Curry: It can take two people doing video conferencing, but not three people.
[2435.97] Curry: Yeah, let's leave Netflix on 40.
[2438.61] Curry: Let's stream Peloton over there.
[2442.13] Curry: Sophie's doing someone called Chloe Ting exercises that we're here, so we're all screwed.
[2449.41] Curry: There's loads of individuals buying indoors as well now.
[2454.05] Curry: Horrible.
[2454.45] Curry: Loads of what thing indoors?
[2456.37] Frank: Interference, I think.
[2457.57] Curry: Interference, because there's so many devices on 5.8 all over the place.
[2461.81] Curry: Can't find a channel where I'm not getting those interference lines coming over.
[2466.53] Frank: Can you not just log into your router and turn off the 5.8 and just put everyone else on 2.4?
[2471.57] Frank: Although then you might be sick of it.
[2472.45] Curry: Yeah, but what about all the neighbours?
[2474.21] Curry: Should I hack all their things as well?
[2476.21] Curry: Yeah, go for it.
[2477.17] Frank: Why not?
[2477.97] Frank: I'm sure you're capable enough.
[2479.81] Tony: Isn't there a pineapple you can get, which knocks out every one set for you?
[2485.01] Jack: That's not what I said, the pineapple.
[2489.01] Jack: Yeah, a delicious fruit.
[2491.49] AndyRC: That might knock out yourself, I think.
[2499.41] Jack: One of my favourite things is the Denal of Service dog, which was part of,
[2507.25] Jack: part of, what is it?
[2510.05] Jack: What is that convention?
[2511.49] Jack: Defcon, that's it.
[2513.73] Jack: Defcon, and they had like a doberman, and he was Denal of Service dog,
[2518.05] Jack: and he had just like jammers all over him.
[2520.69] Jack: So like, wherever you take this dog, and people would look into, you know,
[2524.61] Jack: look at the dog and be like, oh, it's a service dog.
[2526.85] Jack: Yeah, come in.
[2528.05] Jack: And it would just be like all of like white noise and would just
[2531.97] Jack: stop all electronic devices from properly functioning.
[2535.89] Jack: One of my favourite, yeah, probably my second favourite to how to weaponise your cat,
[2546.21] Jack: which was a Wi-Fi sniffer cat.
[2549.73] Jack: And I'd like a little Wi-Fi collar on it.
[2555.41] AndyRC: Anybody got a TikTok account?
[2557.33] Jack: My favourite is this girl who wakes up her cat.
[2563.09] Andy: You jack a cat one.
[2566.53] Jack: Look at it.
[2567.57] Jack: Look, he was like, she woke him up for his nap.
[2570.69] Frank: And then he's all like,
[2573.01] Frank: Are you genuinely on TikTok?
[2575.89] Jack: No.
[2576.85] Frank: No, I was going to say, because isn't, like,
[2579.65] Frank: Teenage is a bit like hanging around the playground, isn't it?
[2585.57] Frank: It's like, it's not the dog thing.
[2587.25] Jack: If you noticed I wasn't logged in.
[2589.25] Curry: You'd be amazed at that.
[2593.81] Curry: When he's on TikTok, he can take his pants off at the playground.
[2597.01] Curry: He's asked to move on.
[2601.41] Jack: It's also, I can't work Snapchat either.
[2604.45] Jack: It's like so complicated.
[2608.93] AndyRC: That's old.
[2611.97] AndyRC: No, people still using Snapchat, but horrible platform wouldn't recommend it.
[2618.61] AndyRC: No, I know about TikTok, because people are reposting them on Instagram somehow.
[2626.29] AndyRC: Yeah, quite a lot of adults, like, do it.
[2628.53] AndyRC: I saw, well, Tom Green, me and Jack liked Tom Green,
[2631.41] AndyRC: and he was posting his TikTok dances on Instagram.
[2636.05] AndyRC: I think, so I think that there's a lot of people into it.
[2639.65] AndyRC: I just don't see, like, you know, when you say, where's this going kind of thing?
[2645.49] AndyRC: What is it?
[2646.29] AndyRC: We're definitely too old to stand there.
[2650.26] Curry: Everybody's doing, it says it's the date, and there's a dance for it that somebody
[2656.74] Curry: has developed, which has about, even I managed to learn it badly.
[2662.66] Curry: But then everybody does there, and then posts it.
[2665.78] Curry: There's like 50 million teenage girls all looking the same,
[2670.82] Curry: all doing the same dance, all to the same music.
[2673.94] Curry: And that's the thing.
[2675.46] Curry: And they just, they like herd animals.
[2678.26] Curry: They're like hive minding.
[2679.7] Curry: They're like, let's all do the same thing.
[2681.86] Curry: I don't know.
[2682.42] Curry: I don't understand it.
[2683.3] Curry: But that's because we're old people.
[2684.9] Curry: We're not supposed to understand it.
[2686.66] AndyRC: I think some people, I know the camera company Cadex,
[2692.82] AndyRC: they put some of my videos of some of the DJI stuff on TikTok.
[2699.86] AndyRC: And I only know it because they put it on Instagram,
[2701.7] AndyRC: and it got TikTok logo in the corner.
[2705.06] AndyRC: I think some people must be doing drone stuff on there.
[2709.46] Curry: That sounds like intellectual theft, Andy.
[2711.3] Curry: Have you had words with them about it?
[2713.3] AndyRC: No, I'm cool with Cadex, man.
[2715.38] AndyRC: They got some good stuff.
[2718.74] Jack: Yeah.
[2719.06] Jack: Who's hanging around the playground now?
[2721.86] Jack: Is it as good as really Eddie?
[2723.22] Jack: The best batteries ever?
[2726.34] Jack: He's still in Italy.
[2727.38] Jack: I'm still being attributed in Israel.
[2730.02] Jack: I'm trying to have a chat with them on WhatsApp.
[2734.26] Jack: But it's all in Hebrew.
[2735.94] Jack: It's very difficult.
[2737.3] Jack: The language and dyslexic barrier is unbelievable.
[2741.3] Tony: I just draw patterns at them.
[2745.62] Jack: I'm not even going to reply to that.
[2748.9] Frank: Well, going back to TikTok, how about interpretive dance?
[2751.38] Frank: There you go.
[2753.62] Jack: Don't encourage him.
[2756.26] Curry: Oh, just one more thing.
[2758.74] Curry: The thing that triggers me most about TikTok is about 100% of it is filmed in porn.
[2763.86] Curry: Which is just like, oh, God, I can't believe it.
[2767.14] Andy: It sounded like porn, but I think it meant it's been portrayed.
[2771.46] Andy: I was thinking he said portrait, but it seemed like it's been portrayed.
[2774.82] Andy: And the thing I hate most about TikTok...
[2776.82] Curry: Am I still a potato?
[2777.94] Curry: Do I sound bad?
[2779.46] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah, we're only getting every other word, Wayne.
[2783.46] AndyRC: You just said, then, the thing I hate about TikTok is it's filmed in porn, is what you just said.
[2792.1] Curry: Portrait.
[2793.38] Curry: Up that way.
[2794.26] Curry: Not that way, like it should be.
[2795.46] Tony: Like, delay the way that your phone is when you hold it.
[2798.58] Tony: It depends.
[2799.46] Tony: Because if you've got someone tall, why would you do it that way?
[2804.02] Tony: Further back.
[2805.3] AndyRC: There you go.
[2806.18] AndyRC: Contact ready, Eddier, if you would like to be sponsored.
[2816.1] Jack: Yeah, like Ed, Bruce Radcliffe,
[2820.9] Jack: he made a funny comment of Don Robinson, the Lord and Master of the Thursday Night Show.
[2829.62] Jack: He had a Kellogg's of doing like a little sideways packet of cereal.
[2835.62] Jack: And Edd made the comment about that sort of generation filming portrait.
[2843.46] Jack: And it amused me.
[2845.62] Frank: It's best you guys don't make TikTok accounts.
[2849.86] Jack: I did spend 30 minutes, at least every day,
[2853.46] Jack: seeing comedy or court aviation vakes.
[2856.18] Jack: The algorithm's pretty good.
[2859.22] AndyRC: It's not like I beat this one, is it, really?
[2866.58] AndyRC: Yeah, YouTube's gone pensive.
[2868.42] Curry: YouTube just shows me the stuff I've already watched, as it's lucky.
[2872.74] Curry: Yeah.
[2874.18] AndyRC: Yeah, and then let's upload a video every single day.
[2878.5] AndyRC: You just get put to the back of the queue.
[2881.3] AndyRC: That's how YouTube works.
[2886.1] AndyRC: Eyes on adverts.
[2887.06] AndyRC: That's what they want.
[2889.3] Tony: That's it.
[2890.26] Tony: And 10-minute videos.
[2893.3] Jack: At least.
[2893.78] Jack: So 10 seconds.
[2895.22] Jack: That's the average.
[2897.06] Jack: 10-minute YouTube, isn't it?
[2901.15] AndyRC: Oh, I can hear an Airbus A300 going over.
[2905.71] AndyRC: That's how sad my time's been.
[2910.19] AndyRC: Looking at flight radar.
[2911.79] AndyRC: And now I know what each day is.
[2915.39] AndyRC: Yeah, that would be probably a DHL A300 going into East Midlands.
[2924.43] Tony: I know.
[2924.91] Tony: It's like novelty when you say you're playing now, isn't it?
[2927.87] Tony: Actually, I had it today, and then literally,
[2930.91] Tony: EasyJet all parked, BI all parked.
[2937.47] AndyRC: I don't know if it's a good thing or not,
[2939.07] AndyRC: but the last couple of weeks, loads of aviation going over,
[2943.15] AndyRC: but I don't know if it's...
[2944.27] Tony: A306.
[2946.67] AndyRC: Don't just...
[2948.83] AndyRC: Is it?
[2949.95] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2950.67] AndyRC: Yeah, see, there you go.
[2952.83] AndyRC: That's it, isn't it?
[2954.11] AndyRC: DHL as well.
[2955.47] Tony: I told you, DHL.
[2958.35] Tony: It's without even seeing.
[2963.31] Tony: This could be a good show.
[2966.43] Jack: Could you imagine him with flavoured wallpaper?
[2969.63] Jack: All he needs is a straitjacket.
[2972.91] AndyRC: I used to be like that with cars.
[2974.59] AndyRC: I could hear the note of an exhaust and go, yeah, that's that.
[2977.87] Tony: Yeah, I can do that.
[2978.75] Tony: I can tell a Subaru Mini Metro...
[2984.27] Jack: What else can I tell you?
[2985.95] Jack: I used to not make so many cars.
[2988.43] Tony: I can pick it up in cars when they're behind me.
[2990.91] AndyRC: Cars these days have all got the same engine in them, haven't they?
[2998.91] Frank: Has anyone got anything that they might be flying any time soon
[3002.35] Frank: or anything to keep them busy while the weather's been not so great?
[3009.47] Jack: Sorry, go on, Jack.
[3011.39] Jack: We spoke about that.
[3012.91] Jack: I went back to your friend.
[3015.63] Jack: I don't even call him my friend anymore.
[3017.95] Jack: I begged him for something to do because I've gone a bit weird.
[3022.91] Jack: You're being gone.
[3025.23] Jack: I am.
[3028.83] Jack: Weirder, yeah.
[3031.55] Tony: I'm flying my wing the weekend again because it's refixed.
[3036.19] Jack: Is Sunday going to be any good?
[3038.59] Tony: Saturday and Sunday, the weather looks all right.
[3041.39] Tony: Sunday, 90 degrees, but I don't know about wind.
[3044.59] Jack: Oh, that might be ready, Eddie.
[3049.71] Jack: Hi, thanks for your help.
[3050.75] Jack: I regret that my brand's still a little known all over the world.
[3056.51] Tony: Well, send us some air and we can make it feel.
[3061.23] Curry: That's what she said.
[3062.19] Curry: We can make you as big as AC or something.
[3068.03] Curry: You can be the next tattoo.
[3070.03] Curry: We're not talking about those Russian lesbian pop stars.
[3075.55] Andy: You can confirm this.
[3082.51] AndyRC: I don't tend to get many.
[3085.31] AndyRC: I mean, I was thrilled to see a UK drone company want to send something.
[3094.59] AndyRC: I get it.
[3095.23] AndyRC: Hardly ever.
[3096.75] AndyRC: Do you find the same yourself?
[3099.23] Frank: Have you covered the news of drone life and the issues that they've had?
[3106.03] Frank: We haven't actually.
[3108.75] Frank: So they've been the victims of credit card fraud.
[3116.67] Frank: So people or someone has been buying a load of DJI stuff on other people's credit cards.
[3125.87] Frank: So then the credit card company goes, oh, that was a fraudulent transaction.
[3131.31] Frank: We're taking the money back or we're not giving you the money.
[3134.35] Frank: But obviously, drone life are left then with no money and no product.
[3140.19] Frank: So they've been a bit screwed over by someone using.
[3146.99] Tony: I think it's on DJI stuff.
[3149.07] Tony: Is it goggles and stuff?
[3150.27] Tony: So if you get buying, if anyone offers you any goggles on eBay or anything like that.
[3158.11] Tony: I think they were saying that when they get the numbers and then they can match them up, I think.
[3163.31] Frank: So you can be traced with the offers that are a bit too good to be true.
[3168.43] Frank: If it seems like it might be off the back of a lorry, then experience life lorry.
[3174.51] Frank: Yeah.
[3175.23] AndyRC: That was one of my worries with this.
[3179.39] AndyRC: I hate to mention it.
[3181.15] AndyRC: The situation that we're in, I've had my email account hacked the last couple of days.
[3187.55] AndyRC: It's been a nightmare trying to get it sorted.
[3190.03] AndyRC: I had some 60,000 return to sender mails going to my junk and like, hey, what's going on here?
[3202.11] Jack: Yeah, I had my hot mail hacked.
[3207.55] Jack: You need a lockdown.
[3208.67] Jack: It is an absolute nightmare.
[3212.91] Tony: There's definitely some con artists out there, but I've had to open two pale disputes for them.
[3218.19] AndyRC: It's kind of like, you know, it's awful.
[3222.83] AndyRC: But then you think that there's probably some really desperate people out there
[3227.63] AndyRC: just doing, I'm not condoning it whatsoever.
[3231.87] AndyRC: I'm just saying it's probably like a symptom.
[3236.83] AndyRC: Perhaps people just, you know, got no money and just doing stupid things.
[3245.15] Curry: On the positive side, I once had my Steam account hacked.
[3248.43] Curry: And when I got it back, I had 200 extra games there.
[3250.91] Curry: So things are roundabouts.
[3254.35] Frank: Speaking of Steam, how's the release of your sim on Steam going?
[3259.63] Frank: It will be out tomorrow.
[3262.59] Curry: 8am Pacific time.
[3265.31] Curry: I don't know what that means.
[3267.47] Curry: Sometime in the afternoon.
[3269.15] Curry: It will eventually go live.
[3270.75] Curry: And if you're interested in getting it, it will be $1.99.
[3275.31] Curry: Basically put there for people who...
[3279.55] Jack: Hang on.
[3280.83] Jack: Yo, hello.
[3283.23] Jack: Check out who we've got on.
[3285.39] Andy: Ready?
[3287.31] Andy: The maker of the world's best batteries.
[3293.07] Jack: Hang on.
[3293.55] Jack: Should we light...
[3295.15] Jack: Should we...
[3295.63] Jack: Oh my God, I've actually successfully done something in my life.
[3298.59] Jack: Well done, Jack.
[3300.59] Jack: I know.
[3301.07] Jack: Hang on.
[3302.27] Frank: Jack is demonstrating what happens when you fly with other brands of batteries.
[3306.67] Andy: Yeah.
[3307.87] Andy: Ready?
[3310.03] Andy: Everybody, go buy ready, ready batteries.
[3314.91] Tony: Let's fight with me.
[3318.8] Curry: If there's anything that works out, we might be hinging towards getting a couple of review
[3324.0] Curry: batteries in perhaps that we can test out for you and spread your good name of excellence.
[3329.2] AndyRC: What we could ask...
[3330.32] AndyRC: What we could ask was ready, ready...
[3332.48] AndyRC: Well, they are in the chat.
[3334.16] AndyRC: Is there a LiPo shortage?
[3336.56] AndyRC: Because that's what I'm finding in general.
[3339.12] AndyRC: Not with all LiPo companies is what I'm saying.
[3344.16] AndyRC: If there's a struggle in getting LiPo's at the moment,
[3348.08] AndyRC: CFE answers back.
[3349.44] AndyRC: That'd be interesting.
[3350.4] Curry: Oh, he is asking how you know about me.
[3352.8] Curry: And mostly because of NJ, isn't it?
[3355.2] Curry: I hadn't heard of Radiad until NJ said...
[3358.08] Curry: NJ.
[3358.56] Curry: This is my biggest sponsor.
[3359.76] Curry: I use them all the time.
[3360.96] Curry: NJ Tech, we should say.
[3362.32] Andy: YouTube tech.
[3363.84] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3365.52] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3366.08] AndyRC: Neil Jones guitar.
[3367.68] AndyRC: I think on YouTube.
[3370.08] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3370.4] AndyRC: We've heard good things about you.
[3372.4] AndyRC: So, yeah.
[3374.48] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3376.08] AndyRC: Look, I got a 300 milliampere one here in a box.
[3380.8] AndyRC: What is it?
[3383.2] AndyRC: Yeah, 4S.
[3384.32] AndyRC: 4S, 300 milliampere.
[3387.52] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3388.32] AndyRC: Nice.
[3391.62] AndyRC: We've all got a LiPo shortage going on here.
[3394.42] AndyRC: Yeah.
[3396.02] AndyRC: So...
[3397.46] AndyRC: We there.
[3398.82] Curry: Cool.
[3399.14] Curry: Yes.
[3399.62] Curry: Yes, Steam tomorrow for anybody that doesn't like downloading like an unzipping a zip file
[3406.42] Curry: and then has to do it again, essentially.
[3408.66] Curry: You have a convenience tax of $1.99.
[3411.38] Curry: And that's how I can try and reclaim the money.
[3412.98] Curry: It costs to put stuff on Steam in the first place.
[3415.3] Curry: Any extra money will go towards extra features like mobile or extending the networking.
[3419.62] AndyRC: Something a little bit profitable and not quite free these days.
[3425.7] Jack: Are you going to give away some Steam keys?
[3428.42] Jack: Yes.
[3428.74] Jack: I already gave one to you.
[3430.98] Curry: I don't know where it is.
[3433.14] Curry: How brilliant.
[3436.58] Curry: I've given them away to a bunch of my Patreons that were testing it.
[3443.86] Curry: Gave one to NJ.
[3444.74] Curry: Gave random people that said there's some Russian review site wanted one.
[3450.9] Curry: It's like, well, whatever.
[3451.86] Curry: So it's not free anymore then, is it?
[3454.98] Curry: It's definitely free because
[3456.66] Curry: the same version that always existed on GitHub is still there and that's free.
[3461.3] Curry: There's now the same version on Steam, which has been
[3465.38] Curry: slightly modified to take away the things Steam didn't like.
[3469.38] Curry: Hey, you mentioned PayPal and Patreon and you link to Bandcamp where people can buy
[3475.86] Curry: stuff without spending Steam bucks.
[3477.94] Curry: So other than that, it's the same thing.
[3479.86] Curry: But there are a number of people that struggled because not everybody is a computer person.
[3486.5] Curry: Like if we asked Tony to download it, he'd struggle.
[3490.18] Curry: So if you've managed to install Steam somehow and you're playing a game, then you can just
[3496.34] Curry: download that and every time I update it, it will just automatically update for you and
[3502.58] Curry: you will have the new version.
[3503.94] Frank: It's the same convenience.
[3506.02] Frank: Yes.
[3506.74] Curry: Yes.
[3507.22] Curry: So there is a convenience because it costs a hundred dollars to put a game on Steam.
[3513.62] Curry: I'm trying to reclaim the money back again.
[3515.54] Curry: So right now, my profit is minus 160 odd dollars of what I've actually spent out,
[3523.14] Curry: not including the hundreds of hours of my time,
[3526.02] Jack: which you want to read out your Patreon on here where it's safe to do so.
[3530.82] Curry: Kerikin, you can find me, but that's okay.
[3535.62] AndyRC: Have you added data?
[3537.7] AndyRC: I noticed you posted that you've done something with the field of view recently,
[3541.46] AndyRC: or has that been implemented yet?
[3544.1] Curry: It hasn't been implemented yet because I'm waiting for the...
[3546.18] Curry: As soon as that Steam version's out and it's done, then I can touch the code again.
[3550.9] Curry: I wasn't touching it because I didn't want two versions floating about.
[3554.5] Curry: I didn't want this thing that was the Steam version.
[3557.14] Curry: This thing was another version being different.
[3559.38] Curry: As soon as Steam version's out, then I will just make...
[3563.3] Curry: Because right now, it is exactly the same code.
[3565.54] Curry: I tick two little boxes, which implement a couple of things that Steam have to do extra,
[3570.9] Curry: and I can produce two versions really easily.
[3574.02] Curry: But yeah, the field of view stuff is kind of done.
[3578.1] Curry: I just have to put in a few more places and test it out, and then I can get that out.
[3583.22] Curry: The guy that was doing some 3D modeling for me has just sent over today
[3587.06] Curry: the models of the crane to put in the building site,
[3590.66] Curry: and the difference with my crane is it's going to be moving.
[3593.86] Curry: Because cranes move, and I thought that'd be more exciting.
[3597.94] AndyRC: I probably shouldn't, in the real world, be flying around a crane that's moving.
[3603.14] AndyRC: It's not the real one.
[3604.98] AndyRC: That's the good thing about it.
[3606.34] AndyRC: Yeah, I know what you're saying, right?
[3607.86] Curry: The idea of it for game.
[3609.38] AndyRC: It's like when GTA came out, isn't it?
[3615.46] AndyRC: This is a murder simulator.
[3621.46] AndyRC: They just started punching people in the street because they've been playing GTA too long.
[3625.86] AndyRC: It's like they've been playing Code of Two Dogs.
[3628.34] Tony: I did actually drive.
[3629.78] Tony: I played GTA for ages and then drove on the other side.
[3632.9] Andy: You're like, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[3635.86] Andy: This was a real thing.
[3637.38] Curry: This is how Tony started killing hookers and taking them to the works.
[3642.74] Curry: In the original game, that's how you got your health back.
[3646.9] Andy: You murdered a hooker to go money.
[3650.74] Curry: Trains going full hand over the face.
[3654.66] Tony: No, we're 10 minutes over.
[3657.22] Jack: Yeah, all right.
[3657.94] Jack: Thank you.
[3659.14] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Drone Out, sponsored by Redhead.
[3663.22] Jack: The best batteries, other batteries are available.
[3670.9] Curry: No, they explode.
[3673.22] Jack: Yeah. Okay.
[3676.18] Jack: So tonight's hosts have been everyone's favorite Curry kitten who's taking his swig of Pepsi.
[3682.34] Jack: Diet Coke.
[3683.06] Jack: Goodbye.
[3685.06] Jack: Andy RC.
[3686.74] Tony: Good evening.
[3688.26] Jack: My little Tony.
[3689.7] Jack: Bonjour.
[3690.34] Jack: Thanks for tuning in, everyone.
[3692.5] Jack: Which we might see Sunday.
[3693.78] Jack: Who knows?
[3694.66] Jack: Andrew Frank.
[3696.26] Frank: Fit light.
[3696.9] Frank: Goodbye.
[3698.34] Jack: Oh my God.
[3698.74] Jack: I'm so glad you're all right.
[3700.02] Jack: We were so worried about you, honestly.
[3702.1] Jack: Re-watch the beginning of this.
[3703.78] Jack: It is very out of character for Frank not to be here, isn't it?
[3706.9] Jack: I know.
[3707.78] Jack: It was like we were completely lost.
[3711.78] Curry: It's not at all like him.
[3713.14] Curry: He's really very punctual.
[3717.62] Jack: I'd be bright until I fly.
[3719.22] Jack: And I'm ready.
[3722.26] Jack: I mean, good night.
[3725.38] Andy: Bye.
[3726.42] Andy: Bye.
[3728.5] Andy: Telemetry lost.