=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 259 === Title: LDO 259 - Fail Hydra Recorded: 2020-08-13 Hosts: Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 2,204 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFFgUo-5ZGo); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/876754447-letsdroneout-ldo-259-fail-hydra.mp3) ===================================== SeriouslyPro Racing - https://shop.seriouslypro.com/flight-controllers Hydra - https://github.com/hydra Velocidrone Combat Launch https://www.facebook.com/events/s/fpv-quad-combat-exhibition-eve/2643684429229315/ [0.0] Curry: Welcome to Let's Drone Out, the original and best drone themed podcast. [5.0] Curry: We record the show live on the Thursday night on youtube.com forward slash Let's Drone Out [10.0] Curry: and our lovely patrons help with the editing costs. [12.0] Curry: These are... [13.0] Curry: Wacky Wes [14.0] Curry: Mikey Dread [15.0] Curry: Art Faulkner [17.0] Curry: Carlos Campos [19.0] Curry: Thank you [20.0] Tony: Now let the trees recover [21.0] Tony: Let's Drone Out now [51.45] Frank: Good evening and welcome to Let's Drone Out episode 259 [56.45] Frank: We were hoping to have on both Jack and Dominic Clifton this evening [62.45] Frank: Of which neither have turned up currently [66.45] Frank: So we're waiting to hear what the story is [69.45] Frank: Apparently it may involve stairs [72.45] Frank: And an ambulance [74.45] Frank: Who's thrown who down the stairs? We don't know [79.45] Frank: We'll find out later [81.45] Frank: Stay tuned [82.45] Frank: In the meantime [84.45] Frank: Have either of you been flying? [88.45] Frank: Yes [89.45] Curry: No [90.45] Curry: I did [92.45] Curry: I win [93.45] Curry: What do I win? [94.45] Curry: I was flying [97.45] Curry: One review quad which is called the Jilang 75 Anger [102.45] Curry: Which I think has possibly the best name of any flying machine I've had [106.45] Curry: And the rebuild of the Lao free frame that I broke the other day and I've put in a different frame [113.45] Curry: And only flew six batteries [115.45] Curry: And I did post a picture of what my back looked like after walking back and forth to the field [119.45] Curry: And it was not pretty [120.45] Curry: It was very hot [122.45] Curry: Indeed [124.45] Frank: Yeah [125.45] Frank: It's not weather for going on long strenuous hikes through unsheltered paths [134.45] Frank: Is it at the moment? [135.45] Curry: It's not very good now [137.45] Frank: We're stringing Wes together it turns out [139.45] Frank: But we'll see [142.45] Frank: Yeah we're [144.45] Tony: I can hear a baby crying or something [146.45] Frank: Yeah I know [148.45] Curry: It's just another random murder in London outside Frank's window [152.45] Curry: What stuff happens outside my window? [155.45] Curry: If someone's not being shanked outside his window it's not a day with a wire [163.45] Curry: Basically yeah [165.45] Curry: Hang on I've got a question from Plan [167.45] Curry: Is the Jilang the 6S? [169.45] Curry: No it is a 4S wook [171.45] Curry: Hang on if I've got it here [173.45] Curry: Jilang [174.45] Curry: Jilang [175.45] Tony: Such brilliant company names [179.79] Tony: So Jack [181.79] Tony: I think Jack said he'll be on the toilet [184.79] Tony: And he will tell us what's happened to our guests [189.79] Tony: Like are we just pretending that we get guests on [194.79] Tony: And then when it comes to it [196.79] Tony: Something happens and they say [198.79] Tony: I'm not coming on Jack I hate you [202.79] Curry: Or they're just throwing themselves down the stairs [205.79] Curry: In some effort to say I didn't cancel [208.79] Curry: I had to go to the hospital instead [210.79] Curry: One of the two [211.79] Tony: Apparently Tommy didn't turn up for the other UK [216.79] Tony: The second best podcast [219.79] Tony: So you know [222.79] Tony: Okay we're going to start a little [224.79] Frank: We're going there are we? [226.79] Curry: I can't put it as real as them [228.79] Curry: Keep being pariahs [230.79] Curry: That's our new mission statement [233.79] Frank: Mr Shady for his testimonial I guess today [237.79] Frank: Very appreciated, thank you very much [241.79] Curry: I think he basically told them that this is even less organised than us [246.79] Curry: And at that point they deleted the stream from their channel [250.79] Curry: Because as soon as you get compared disfavorably to us [254.79] Curry: You know you've really sunk to the bottom [256.79] Curry: And if you call all content away [260.79] Frank: Ah yeah [261.79] Tony: Of course Viking Dreadsane [263.79] Tony: There's an elephant poking its nose through your window [266.79] Tony: Hang on [267.79] Curry: I feel I have to explain this one [270.79] Curry: Clown is going about the ones that are running the [273.79] Curry: These are the tiny 6S lipos [275.79] Curry: That is one called the [277.79] Curry: So I was just filming with this one earlier today [283.16] Curry: This is another exciting quad that they sent me [287.16] Curry: To film with those little 6S lipos [289.16] Curry: Called the Petrel 132 [291.16] Curry: However they sent me the 4S version [294.16] Curry: Petrel [296.16] Curry: So this has got 3800 kV motors [298.16] Curry: And will blow up on a 6S battery [300.16] Curry: But the only difference is the motors [302.16] Curry: So HCLRC is sending me new motors [304.16] Curry: So I can check it out properly with a 6S [306.16] Curry: But I can [307.16] Curry: I'll fly this 4S [308.16] Curry: See what it's like [309.16] Curry: Then I'll fly on 6S [310.16] Curry: And see what it's like [311.16] Tony: Yeah [313.16] Tony: I am flying through [314.16] Tony: I want to fly this weekend [315.16] Tony: But I don't know what the weather's going to be like [317.16] Tony: It keeps threatening to rain [318.16] Tony: I haven't seen any rain yet [319.16] Tony: Apart from my brother [320.16] Tony: Sent a video of him on the M25 [324.16] Tony: And it was literally like a river [327.16] Tony: But I haven't seen any [328.16] Tony: So I'm hoping it will stay dry enough [331.16] Tony: To do some flying this weekend [333.16] Curry: I think it probably [334.16] Curry: Either it's going to absolutely belt it down randomly [339.16] Curry: Without any prior knowledge [340.16] Curry: Or it's going to be okay [341.16] Curry: So you might as well just go [343.16] Curry: And if lightning comes [344.16] Curry: That would be an interesting experiment [346.16] Tony: Well I've got one of those quads [348.16] Tony: I'm just thinking that [349.16] Curry: Basically I'm here to try and market [352.16] Curry: Tony and Jack's thumbnails [355.16] Curry: And I've just got one [356.16] Curry: I flew my quad in the rain [358.16] Curry: You won't believe what happened next [360.16] Curry: You can go with that one [362.16] Curry: Don't talk [363.16] Curry: I have a little exterior camera [364.16] Curry: So when you get lit up by the lightning [366.16] Curry: You can use your controller [371.16] Curry: You need the old 35 Meg days [373.16] Curry: Don't you just pull the big aerial out [375.16] Curry: And we'll be in the sky [377.16] Tony: I go home when I [379.16] Tony: You know my poles are all carbon [382.16] Tony: When I'm cleaning windows [383.16] Tony: And there's a thunderstorm [384.16] Tony: I literally pack up and go home anyway [387.16] Tony: So yeah, not good [391.16] Tony: So what was we talking about earlier? [394.16] Curry: We were talking about [395.16] Curry: We were talking about cine whoops [397.16] Curry: Yes [398.16] Curry: But like the big ones [399.16] Curry: They're sort of the three inches [400.16] Curry: Like these guys, don't we? [401.16] Tony: There's new props out [403.16] Tony: I can't remember [404.16] Tony: Name some prop manufacturers [405.16] Tony: And I'll say yes [406.16] Tony: And I'll tell you who it was [408.16] Tony: Gemfan [409.16] Tony: Yes [412.16] Tony: Well done [413.16] Tony: That's good [414.16] Curry: Because my next one was going to be Tesco [415.16] Curry: Because I couldn't think of anything [417.16] Tony: Gemfan have got a new prop out [419.16] Tony: For the three inch [421.16] Tony: It's a five bladed [423.16] Tony: And it's supposed to like literally cut the [426.16] Tony: Cut the sound in half [427.16] Tony: Because they're so noisy aren't they? [429.16] Tony: I don't know what they're going to be like [431.16] Tony: How less efficient [432.16] Curry: It kind of feels like [434.16] Curry: More blades should equal more sound [437.16] Curry: Let's ask the physics expert [439.16] Frank: Frank [443.16] Frank: I guess because you're not moving them as fast [449.16] Frank: Or something [450.16] Frank: So you reduced the tip speed [451.16] Frank: Tip speed is important [453.16] Frank: Fraser has seen in the chat [454.16] Frank: We'll talk more about tip speed [456.16] Tony: That sounds like a late night chat [463.16] Curry: Can, does this mean the pitch is much less [465.16] Curry: Because we were just talking [467.16] Curry: Before we came on air [468.16] Curry: And decided we should have this conversation on air [470.16] Curry: I was talking about this one overheating [472.16] Curry: And Tony you were saying your motors get quite hot [475.16] Curry: And because we're talking about like [477.16] Curry: Quite fast props [479.16] Curry: In a stupidly heavy thing for the size [481.16] Curry: So I'm thinking if it's five bladed [483.16] Curry: Surely you need to reduce the pitch quite a lot [486.16] Curry: For it to not burn up [489.16] Curry: Basically [490.16] Tony: Yeah well I'm hoping [491.16] Tony: Well apparently he's cut the sound in half [493.16] Tony: So I'm going to try some [495.16] Tony: I think I'm going to order some next time [496.16] Tony: I need to order some stuff [498.16] Tony: Yeah we've I think we've asked [501.16] Tony: Tony cake to come on [503.16] Tony: I know you've been on [506.16] Tony: I think it went on [508.16] Curry: Joshua Bardwell didn't he? [510.16] Curry: He was with Bardwell [511.16] Tony: Yeah [512.16] Tony: So he probably thinks that's enough [514.16] Tony: But we will try again [517.16] Tony: We will try again [519.16] Curry: I personally messaged him on Facebook [521.16] Curry: And he has ignored me as well [525.16] Curry: Just to show how much I bring to it [527.16] Tony: Cake or Bardwell [529.16] Frank: We have had a request [533.16] Frank: For someone to be a guest [535.16] Frank: We've had an email [536.16] Frank: From someone saying [537.16] Frank: Can I come on your show? [539.16] Frank: Really? What? [541.16] Frank: I know [542.16] Frank: Have they seen this show? [543.16] Frank: I'm not sure they have [545.16] Frank: So let's see how that goes [546.16] Tony: Okay have you got any [548.16] Tony: Do we know who it is or? [550.16] Frank: Yes-ish [552.16] Frank: Like I only know [555.16] Frank: For unusual reasons [557.16] Frank: But it's not [559.16] Frank: I don't think they're kind of FPV crowd-ish [562.16] Frank: But we'll see [564.16] Frank: It could be entertaining [565.16] Frank: Okay [566.16] Curry: Can you tell us who it is [568.16] Curry: Or am I going to have to just search through the email account now and find it? [571.16] Frank: It's only like the penultimate email I think [574.16] Frank: But yeah [576.16] Frank: It could be interesting [578.16] Frank: But yes, you can email the show [580.16] Frank: That email is from [582.16] Frank: Gmail.com [583.16] Tony: People actually email [585.16] Frank: You should email the show [587.16] Frank: You should send in your FPV horror stories [590.16] Frank: Collecting for the end of October [592.16] Frank: For our Halloween special [594.16] Frank: Where we will be going over the FPV horror stories that you send in to us [598.16] Frank: And Jack has a lovely special one [600.16] Frank: That he has previewed for the patrons [604.16] Frank: And already we are [607.16] Frank: Yeah, a bit dubious about that one [609.16] Frank: We'll see [612.16] Frank: But yes, if you send in your FPV horror stories [615.16] Frank: To letstroneout.com [618.16] Frank: We will collect them up for the [620.16] Tony: Can you explain more [622.16] Tony: What have you got to send in of your horror story [624.16] Tony: Just a literal story written down [627.16] Tony: Or can you... [629.16] Frank: Ideally [630.16] Frank: So we've actually had an entry already [634.16] Frank: I believe [635.16] Frank: Okay [636.16] Frank: And this is going to be [638.16] Frank: There he is [639.16] Frank: Hello [640.16] Jack: I am very sorry [642.16] Jack: For my [643.16] Jack: Lateness [644.16] Jack: I am [645.16] Jack: Very loud [647.16] Curry: Can I just say [649.16] Curry: I've read the email [650.16] Curry: And I'm extremely concerned [652.16] Curry: That we haven't seen the show [655.16] Curry: I mean [656.16] Curry: The guy didn't even send his own email [657.16] Curry: He got an assistant to do it [658.16] Curry: This is not looking good [660.16] Frank: I think this will be amazing [662.16] Frank: I think I might have to die off that now [665.16] Frank: Do almost horror stories count too? [668.16] Frank: Absolutely [669.16] Frank: Near misses [670.16] Frank: Excellent [671.16] Frank: We want to hear all of these [673.16] Frank: Anything that will get us all [675.16] Frank: Cringing and wincing [677.16] Frank: Is this for our room [679.16] Frank: October [680.16] Frank: Yes [681.16] Frank: For Halloween special that we're going to do [683.16] Curry: You can probably expect me to talk somewhat [685.16] Curry: About where was your beeper [687.16] Curry: During all these stories I expect [689.16] Curry: Because that's just going to happen isn't it? [691.16] Tony: So Jack can you tell us what happened to our guests [693.16] Tony: You know we tell people [695.16] Tony: We're getting these people on and [697.16] Tony: Then stuff happens [699.16] Tony: What's happening today? [701.16] Jack: He fell down the stairs [703.16] Jack: Working in [705.16] Jack: Rhonda [707.16] Jack: And he's been up and down ladders all day [709.16] Jack: And then he comes home to do the show [711.16] Jack: And he calls me about 20 minutes [713.16] Jack: For the show [715.16] Jack: And he's [717.16] Jack: Called me on Discord [719.16] Jack: And he's fallen down the stairs [721.16] Tony: Right, he's such an old man [723.16] Jack: Thing to do [724.16] Jack: Back [725.16] Jack: And all that [726.16] Jack: So yeah [727.16] Jack: I hope you get better [729.16] Jack: And yeah he seems like I'm getting an ambulance [731.16] Jack: And stuff [733.16] Tony: So it's probably not joking then [735.16] Jack: No, no it's not a joke [737.16] Jack: It's more people [739.16] Tony: The excuse is valid [741.16] Curry: Because we did think you know [743.16] Curry: Has he thrown himself down the stairs [746.16] Curry: Or has he in fact just [748.16] Curry: Lay on the carpet [749.16] Curry: Take a picture of himself and say [751.16] Curry: Jack I'm sorry I've fallen down the stairs [753.16] Curry: I can't come on [754.16] Curry: Both of which are awesome excuses [756.16] Curry: But I feel slightly bad [759.16] Curry: But I did show it to my wife [760.16] Curry: And she said no he's taken a piss [762.16] Curry: No one takes a picture of themselves [764.16] Curry: Having fallen down the stairs [767.16] Curry: So [768.16] Tony: Next week [769.16] Tony: Have we got a guest on [770.16] Tony: Or anything happening next week Frank [772.16] Tony: And are they going to turn up [773.16] Tony: Or fall out the sky [774.16] Tony: Or whatever [776.16] Tony: You tell me [778.16] Tony: Is it next week? [780.16] Tony: Is it? [781.16] Tony: It's our fifth [782.16] Tony: It's our fifth year anniversary [784.16] Frank: Yeah [785.16] Frank: And we've got [786.16] Frank: Five years of let's turn out [788.16] Frank: Weekly [789.16] Frank: Weekly nonsense [791.16] Curry: There they are [792.16] Curry: These are the props [793.16] Curry: Tony was on about [794.16] Curry: The five bladers [795.16] Curry: Yep [797.16] Curry: And they are [798.16] Curry: It doesn't [799.16] Curry: It doesn't say what the pitch is [800.16] Curry: Don't seem to see anywhere [801.16] Jack: I'm very disappointed [803.16] Jack: I didn't get to play Dementia [806.16] Jack: Let's play Dementia [807.16] Jack: When he was like [809.16] Jack: You know [810.16] Jack: HQ [811.16] Jack: Gemfan [812.16] Jack: Dal [813.16] Tony: Well [814.16] Tony: I already got it right away [815.16] Curry: I got it on my first try [817.16] Curry: Because that was the only [818.16] Curry: Actually literally [819.16] Curry: I could think of [820.16] Curry: As I said my next guest [821.16] Curry: Was going to be Tesco's [822.16] Curry: One stop [823.16] Curry: Prime art [824.16] Curry: That's all I could think of [826.16] Tony: So yeah it's going to be [827.16] Tony: Our five year anniversary [829.16] Tony: Next Thursday so [831.16] Jack: Have we figured anything out for her? [833.16] Frank: Yes [834.16] Frank: To reward all our lovely listeners [836.16] Frank: For putting up with us [837.16] Frank: For the past five years [839.16] Frank: Tony's arranged some special guests [841.16] Frank: So you can listen to them [842.16] Frank: Instead of us [843.16] Tony: Yep [844.16] Jack: Does that mean [845.16] Jack: I don't have to be here? [848.16] Tony: Well it's your fifth year anniversary Jack [852.16] Tony: You have to be here [853.16] Tony: You can't not be here for that [855.16] Tony: You can do it from the toilet if you want [858.16] Jack: Yeah it's getting that way [861.16] Jack: It really is [863.16] Tony: Five years I can't believe it [865.16] Tony: Thanks for everyone [867.16] Tony: Who in the chat has been here for five years do you reckon? [871.16] Jack: Zero [872.16] Jack: For a start [873.16] Tony: Yeah zero definitely [875.16] Tony: He's been here five years [876.16] Tony: Probably Richard Boric [878.16] Tony: Hold on [879.16] Frank: I reckon [880.16] Frank: Sorry my channel wouldn't just come out [882.16] Frank: Can anyone [883.16] Tony: Can anyone [884.16] Tony: Oh dear [885.16] Tony: Can anyone go back to the first [889.16] Tony: And see if we have any comments from anyone [892.16] Tony: Jack it'd be on your channel wouldn't it? [896.16] Jack: No because back then it didn't save the chat [899.16] Jack: Remember? [901.16] Jack: That's how far we've come [903.16] Jack: Where Google didn't have the power [905.16] Jack: At first the chat didn't work [908.16] Jack: When the Hangouts first started [912.16] Jack: And then the chat did work [915.16] Jack: And then it was never saved [917.16] Jack: And that's why you had people [919.16] Jack: You know on OBS squishing everything together [924.16] Jack: And you know recording the chat [929.16] Jack: Within the video [932.16] Jack: So I don't know [934.16] Jack: Unless we mentioned anyone on the legacy episodes [939.16] Jack: Like I don't know whether you did any like shout outs or anything [943.16] Jack: You know if you listened back to the early ones [947.16] Jack: I remember zero being like one of our first mods [950.16] Jack: And that's kind of stuck in three cases [953.16] Tony: For me it's a big story [955.16] Tony: We've got GE FPV I've been here from the start [959.16] Tony: Hey Karen [960.16] Tony: Couple of people for three years [963.16] Tony: So Mikey Dred said who are the guests [966.16] Tony: Right we've got [968.16] Tony: It was going to be Girls Night 3 [970.16] Tony: So we've had very successful Girls Night [973.16] Tony: Where we've got some [975.16] Tony: Girls, Girls, Girls FPV pilots [980.16] Tony: But [981.16] Jack: It's going in a different direction there [984.16] Tony: No [986.16] Tony: We're going to have Girls Night 3 [989.16] Tony: It's going to come on and it's going to be [992.16] Tony: Our fifth year anniversary as well [994.16] Tony: So it's going to be [996.16] Tony: A lot of people in the chat [998.16] Tony: But it's just it's going to be fun [1000.16] Tony: So yeah [1001.16] Jack: Thank you for sorting that out [1003.16] Tony: Yeah [1004.16] Tony: We're going to have some girls on next week [1007.16] Tony: And they pretty much are going to come on [1009.16] Tony: Unless they'll fall down the stairs or [1011.16] Jack: Shady [1012.16] Jack: Yeah Shady was here for a while [1014.16] Jack: And MCGations as well is old school [1018.16] Tony: Yes very [1019.16] Tony: Thanks for listening [1020.16] Jack: Days about four [1022.16] Jack: So [1024.16] Tony: Wind's been here since half seven he said [1026.16] Tony: It's not what we're talking about [1028.16] Tony: Wind but cheers for being there early [1030.16] Jack: So [1032.16] Jack: Curry how's the HD FPV going? [1035.16] Curry: It's still all in the boxes [1037.16] Curry: Because I'm still waiting for the network adapters to arrive [1040.16] Curry: As in the boxes because I have to film [1043.16] Curry: Stuff [1044.16] Curry: So I have to like hear other boxes before I actually do anything [1047.16] Curry: I'll show you what the [1049.16] Curry: For the crowd of people [1052.79] Curry: Karen do you want to come on? [1053.79] Curry: Here's a bunch of boxes [1054.79] Curry: I have got two pi fours [1056.79] Curry: Some zero cams [1058.79] Curry: That's a pi zero [1060.79] Curry: This is a screen and a cover for the screen [1063.79] Curry: And yeah this should make at least [1066.79] Curry: There you go [1068.79] Curry: Two airpies and one ground station basically [1073.79] Tony: That looks like too much effort to me [1075.79] Tony: I just pressed went to the DJI store and just went [1079.79] Tony: Yes please send that to me tomorrow [1081.79] Tony: And it was here and I put it on and went [1083.79] Tony: Yay! [1084.79] Tony: That looks like too much work [1086.79] Curry: So the DJI is available for people with lots of money [1089.79] Curry: And practically no technical skills [1091.79] Curry: That's good for you [1092.79] Curry: For other people who like innovations [1095.79] Curry: Who like getting behind hobbyists [1097.79] Curry: Who don't like supporting monopolies [1100.79] Curry: There is an open source solution for you [1103.79] Jack: Tony will be the first one on his knees [1106.79] Jack: To our new Chinese overlords [1109.79] Curry: Well yeah he's getting programmed [1112.79] Curry: There's been a terrible synchronized girls [1115.79] Curry: Falling down the stairs accident [1121.79] Jack: That's the point [1122.79] Jack: I've got a HDMI Pi [1124.79] Jack: Is that what screen you've got? [1128.79] Jack: It's the official seven inch touch screen [1131.79] Curry: Oh very nice [1134.79] Curry: And that's HD as well [1136.79] Curry: No it hasn't got full res on it [1138.79] Curry: But there's two HDMI's out [1140.79] Curry: I just wanted a portable screen that wasn't too big [1143.79] Curry: So I could just see what was happening [1145.79] Curry: And because the Pi 4's got two HDMI's out [1148.79] Curry: You can use that as your general ground station [1150.79] Curry: Which will record and you can take HDMI out to another device [1153.79] Curry: Like HD goggles for example [1156.79] Curry: Or a bigger screen if you want to [1158.79] Curry: You can have 10 inch screens which are full HD [1160.79] Curry: But that felt like you were wandering around with your TV [1164.79] Tony: You've got to take your car somewhere [1166.79] Tony: And put your TV in the boat [1169.79] Tony: That's how I want it [1170.79] Curry: That was the old days of flying [1172.79] Curry: That would be quite cool [1174.79] Tony: That would be quite cool wouldn't it [1175.79] Tony: Just sitting there all watching a 50 inch TV [1178.79] Curry: Of CRTs trying to film them in [1180.79] Frank: If you're lost as to what Kerry was talking about a minute ago [1183.79] Frank: See our previous episode on the open HD system [1187.79] Frank: We're trying [1189.79] Curry: But for some reason that guest didn't turn up [1191.79] Curry: I had to fill in for him [1193.79] Tony: He didn't fall down the stairs [1195.79] Tony: He got struck by lightning [1197.79] Curry: What would he say? [1199.79] Curry: That was the previous time he was supposed to [1201.79] Tony: I'm going to get a beer [1202.79] Frank: Excuse me for a minute sorry [1204.79] Frank: Well I will let everyone know some interesting news [1208.79] Frank: So after the show this evening at 9 o'clock I believe [1212.79] Frank: UK time on Thursday the 13th of August [1215.79] Frank: Velocidrone are debuting their combat mode in an event [1220.79] Frank: That they're going to stream at 9 o'clock tonight [1224.79] Frank: Where I don't entirely see how it's going to work [1227.79] Frank: But there seems to be like a bunch of different modes [1229.79] Frank: Like capture the flag and things [1231.79] Frank: So see how that kind of works out [1235.79] Curry: I think they've just been stealing my ideas [1237.79] Curry: Since I mentioned gamification [1239.79] Curry: Suddenly all this stuff's appeared [1242.79] Curry: You're welcome everybody [1244.79] Curry: For your Velocidrone upgrades [1246.79] Curry: Take full responsibility [1248.79] Jack: Skyoats I have got a clock to build [1253.79] Jack: I think I've got a countdown timer [1255.79] Jack: I've got like one of the sweets [1258.79] Jack: And AndyRC's just got to give the nod on [1262.79] Jack: Yep I want to watch it [1264.79] Jack: Because he used to enjoy me putting stuff together [1268.79] Jack: But I've taken the top down cam of my bench down [1272.79] Jack: So I had a bit of an incident flying [1280.79] Jack: Tuesday? Yeah [1282.79] Jack: You flew something? [1284.79] Jack: What? [1285.79] Jack: Well not very much [1287.79] Jack: I'd done one battery [1289.79] Jack: I was flying the Zeed [1295.79] Jack: What's the Z? Is this a wing or a quad or what? [1299.79] Jack: It's a quad [1301.79] Jack: The racing quad, hang on [1303.79] Jack: It's just out of reach [1304.79] Jack: Very very racing droning [1313.07] Jack: Believe it or not [1315.07] Jack: But yeah I'm going to be chatting about this [1319.07] Jack: Is it Z or Zeed or something? [1322.07] Jack: What's that? How's it written? [1325.07] Jack: That means finding [1328.07] Jack: The only way I can immediately do this [1330.07] Jack: Who makes it? [1332.07] Curry: Zeed the manufacturer one [1335.07] Jack: Yeah [1337.07] Jack: Maybe designed in Italy or something [1339.07] Jack: Find out, hang on [1341.07] Tony: Zee-Zee-Zee-Zee [1351.89] Jack: Zee-Zee [1353.89] Jack: Zee-Zee [1355.89] Tony: What is that bloody rubbish screen [1360.89] Tony: I don't understand that analogue thing [1364.89] Jack: What? [1366.89] Jack: Mr Dom V2's over there [1371.89] Jack: Yeah so I flew this and I was flying my wing [1376.89] Jack: Well trying to fly my wing with [1379.89] Jack: With poor magical pencil and he [1383.89] Jack: What's up? [1388.38] Frank: Dave Story was asking if I built my wing project [1392.38] Frank: Please carry on [1394.38] Frank: It's currently a stratus of piles of stuff on my desk [1402.02] Frank: It's not the top layer [1404.02] Frank: It is buried [1406.02] Curry: The answer is he hasn't even touched it [1408.02] Curry: Or thought about it [1410.02] Frank: I've just piled other stuff on top of it [1412.02] Frank: That's all that's happened [1414.02] Frank: Oh dear, Frank [1415.02] Curry: Please continue with your story, Jack [1417.02] Jack: We're excited about flying something [1419.02] Jack: And yeah, Zee's [1423.02] Jack: That's it [1425.02] Jack: Right, and yeah [1427.02] Jack: I chucked my wing and he sliced his finger on the prop [1432.02] Jack: So yeah, I'm not having a great time [1435.02] Curry: Don't be trying to blame yourself for that [1438.02] Curry: So hang on, someone else sliced their finger [1440.02] Curry: What stops you flying? [1442.02] Curry: Exactly [1443.02] Tony: I'm probably going to be [1445.02] Jack: Ministering first aid [1447.02] Tony: Well I probably didn't launch it [1449.02] Jack: Yeah [1451.02] Tony: Jack, it was just a little nip [1453.02] Tony: People were like, it happens all the time [1455.02] Tony: Don't start blaming yourself for other people's problems [1458.02] Tony: Do like a throw instead of a race throw [1460.02] Tony: Just drop some money [1462.02] Jack: So I have ordered a tiny trainer [1470.02] Jack: So I'm going to do it [1473.02] Jack: And I'm going to learn how to fly line of sight [1478.02] Jack: What is the tiny trainer? [1480.02] Curry: Is the tiny trainer a little fixed wing thing? [1483.02] Curry: It's a flight test speed build kit [1487.02] Frank: Oh man, as soon as you say flight test [1490.02] Curry: It's like the world's most expensive foam board, isn't it? [1493.02] Frank: Well, not the most expensive [1496.02] Curry: But it's up there, definitely [1498.02] Curry: So you're going to line of sight, fly a plane [1502.02] Curry: Yeah [1504.26] Curry: In circles [1505.26] Tony: I'm going to do some buddy boxing [1508.26] Tony: I can't [1510.26] Tony: Do you know how I forgot your Christmas, your birthday present this year? [1515.26] Jack: Yeah [1516.26] Tony: I know what I'm getting you [1518.26] Tony: What? [1519.26] Tony: Well it's either white socks and sandals or some crocs and sandals [1525.26] Tony: Or crocs and white socks [1528.26] Tony: I'm going to get a shot of those [1532.26] Tony: What, 99? I probably don't [1536.26] Tony: Right, socks and sandals coming your way [1540.26] Jack: No, and one thing I do need help with, if anyone knows [1545.26] Jack: I need a JR to Futaba [1548.26] Jack: Buddy, lead, or chord [1551.26] Jack: I don't know how to do that [1553.26] Frank: What? [1554.26] Jack: I've had a... [1556.26] Frank: A stereo lead like the rest of us [1560.26] Curry: Isn't the Futaba a little square thing? [1563.26] Curry: Yes, that's right [1565.26] Curry: I think I've got one in one of the... [1568.26] Tony: Didn't you get it in one of your Frank boxes? [1571.26] Curry: One of these weird things, hang on [1573.26] Curry: I might literally have one here [1575.26] Curry: Because when you buy one of these weird USB things you get a bunch of little cables in [1579.26] Curry: And you'll be looking for something like this [1582.26] Curry: Futaba [1584.26] Curry: It's got a jack and then you just need to supply your normal 3.5 inch thing [1588.26] Curry: You can have that if you like [1590.26] Curry: Who made that and where do I get it? [1593.26] Curry: You can have this one [1595.26] Curry: But I didn't make it [1597.26] Curry: Do you like it? [1599.26] Curry: Made by me, aged eight and a half [1602.26] Curry: But no one's going to buy that [1604.26] Jack: I will get a career to come pick that up [1607.26] Curry: That sounds more expensive than just buying one of these simulator packs for like six quid or something [1614.26] Curry: Fair enough [1616.26] Curry: Are you really going to start a fine plane, Jack? [1619.26] Curry: No, the tiny trainer, people are saying [1622.26] Curry: Is a little funny DRL mini quad thing [1626.26] Curry: Are we talking about... [1628.26] Curry: We need to link people to this flight test build [1631.26] Tony: What is it? Is it a quad or is it a plane? [1633.26] Tony: It's a plane [1639.26] Tony: Does it have a stabilisation built in and all that? [1643.26] Curry: Will you be flying in clockwise or counterclockwise circles? [1647.26] Tony: Always going left [1649.26] Tony: Left, always going left [1653.26] Tony: If I turn up a racetrack and it was going right, I'd go home [1660.26] Tony: I could always fly better going left and right [1664.26] Curry: It's always easier to push your thumb in than pull it out [1667.26] Curry: Exactly [1669.26] Jack: I've put the link in the chat for the flight test [1675.26] Tony: Looks like a little glider [1677.26] Frank: It's a phone board [1679.26] Jack: But it has servos [1681.26] Jack: I've bought the servos, they're tiny, they're little 5g servos [1687.26] Curry: 30 quid, isn't that the same price as an AXN [1691.26] Curry: Which isn't made out of just phone board [1694.26] Curry: I don't know what that is [1696.26] Curry: You don't know what an AXN is? [1698.26] Curry: No [1699.26] Curry: It's like saying you don't know what a servo is, what's wrong with you, man? [1703.26] Curry: I don't know, did you tell me? [1705.26] Tony: Have you come from planes before quads, Kerry? [1707.26] Tony: No, I came from tricopters [1709.26] Tony: Were you a tricopter, then plane, then quad? [1713.26] Curry: Tricopters, quads, then planes [1715.26] Curry: Really? [1716.26] Curry: Planes came last, yes [1718.26] Jack: Oh wow [1720.26] Jack: Isn't that an AXN, just a Bixler? [1724.26] Curry: No, it's a bit different from a Bixler [1728.26] Curry: Everybody bought them, because Bruce, years ago, did like this is how you build a plane [1732.26] Curry: Which I copied, although I managed to get the ailerons reversed [1736.26] Curry: So my initial flights were not that successful with it [1740.26] Curry: But as soon as I figured out [1742.26] Curry: It is very big and very light [1744.26] Curry: It is, but it's smaller and lighter [1746.26] Frank: Mr Shady's got the name that I would know it by [1748.26] Frank: Just a float [1750.26] Curry: The nose does break off quite easily [1754.26] Curry: As I found out after two launches into the ground [1756.26] Tony: Jack can't use that [1760.26] Jack: Thanks, time [1761.26] Jack: Jack's would be the sprayer [1765.26] Jack: Fantastic [1767.26] Tony: If you ever release a plane design, please call it the sprayer [1774.26] Tony: I need to put my icon on, I'm getting too hot [1777.26] Tony: Oh God, no I won't [1780.26] Tony: The sprayer [1781.26] Jack: I'm glad my disease makes you laugh [1785.26] Jack: Well, you've got to laugh at these things, haven't you? [1787.26] Curry: But tell us about your... [1789.26] Curry: I'll wait for you to answer [1791.26] Curry: And you can all have a good old laugh at that [1793.26] Curry: We will [1794.26] Curry: I'll start writing the jokes now [1796.26] Curry: Please tell us about your motivation behind this desire to learn line of sight fixed-wing flying [1803.26] Jack: I can launch my own sodding planes and my friends don't have to blend their hands off [1809.26] Tony: To be fair, it was the first time he launched a plane [1813.26] Tony: Was it not? [1814.26] Curry: Why would you hold a wing and launch it like where the... [1817.26] Curry: There's a proper thing [1818.26] Curry: If you do it right anyway, it doesn't hit you [1821.26] Jack: I've had this argument [1824.26] Jack: Experimental Airlines [1827.26] Tony: There's several ways to launch it [1829.26] Tony: I just don't normally hold it by the wing and... [1834.26] Curry: Well, I launch all the time with my goggles on [1838.26] Curry: And it's just literally power up and chuck it [1842.26] Curry: Yeah, planes are fun [1844.26] Curry: Planes are fun [1845.26] Curry: I just... [1846.26] Curry: I just... [1847.26] Curry: I find it a bit down the line of sight [1849.26] Curry: Because after I've done two circuits, I'm like... [1851.26] Curry: Mm-hmm [1852.26] Curry: This feels like flying me under circles [1855.26] Frank: You need to fly them inverted instead [1859.26] Tony: What you meant... [1860.26] Tony: Could do then [1861.26] Tony: What I... [1862.26] Tony: The fun thing about flying a plane [1864.26] Jack: You had your shared screen [1866.26] Tony: It's the 17 grand that people spend and then fly [1870.26] Curry: Yeah, that's the correct way to launch a plane [1872.26] Curry: But I'd still prefer to launch it by a wing if it's a wing [1875.26] Curry: Well, the wing... [1876.26] Jack: I find it hooks and it'll just smash everything up [1881.26] Tony: It can... [1882.26] Tony: It can hook, I agree [1885.26] Jack: I find... [1886.26] Jack: I find that is... [1889.26] Jack: You know, I just find that the whole wing tasks, like... [1895.12] Jack: Especially when you've got FPV gear [1898.12] Jack: That won't work [1899.12] Jack: It saves you [1900.12] Jack: I'm also... [1901.12] Jack: I'm also a fan of Ivy Crazy [1906.12] Jack: How to launch, where you do it above your head [1909.12] Jack: And you let go [1913.59] Curry: It's kind of whatever works for you [1915.59] Curry: But I'd like to keep my hands away from the spinny crocky thing if I can [1919.59] Curry: I'm sorry, Dave, I hope you're okay [1923.59] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience [1926.59] Frank: Downloaded and edited to make sense when it played audio only [1929.59] Frank: Censored to please the iTunes people [1931.59] Frank: Hosted on the internet [1932.59] Frank: Forwarded through to your podcast provider [1934.59] Frank: Downloaded, playing on your device [1936.59] Frank: And is now playing in your ears [1938.59] Frank: All thanks to our Patreons [1940.59] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits [1943.59] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com [1948.59] Frank: What have you been doing on your sim recently, Curry? [1952.59] Frank: Anything? [1953.59] Curry: Nothing, because it was too hot [1955.59] Curry: So all I've managed to do in the last two weeks [1957.59] Curry: Is design different openings so the walls falls down in different ways [1963.59] Curry: Which is very exciting, if you're me [1966.59] Curry: Perhaps it's just a way of procrastinating [1969.59] Curry: To what now? [1970.59] Frank: Do you have to collect all the different openings? [1973.59] Frank: Like bonus? [1975.59] Curry: No, it goes randomly [1978.59] Curry: If you want, I can show you these endings [1980.59] Curry: If you're very excited by all openings, if you're very excited by them indeed [1985.59] Tony: You've got the traditional quad flies through the wall [1990.59] Curry: And then you've got, because we've got planes in the sim now [1996.59] Curry: Here is a plane hitting the wall instead [2002.06] Curry: Which is super fun [2004.06] Jack: And then finally [2006.06] Jack: Why didn't it go through there? That sucks, the quad goes through [2012.06] Jack: Because I wanted it to do something different [2015.06] Curry: There's the beach ball, and then the wall just falls over [2019.06] Jack: What about my face through the wall? [2021.06] Tony: Is there any Easter eggs? [2024.06] Tony: No, there's no Easter eggs [2026.06] Curry: You definitely should do Easter eggs [2030.06] Curry: Well, it's too hot to do anything [2032.06] Curry: The idea was to get planes in network mode by now [2037.06] Curry: But it's so hot that my brain doesn't work and I can't do it [2042.06] Curry: I started doing it and then it gave up [2044.06] Curry: Not realistic, the wings stayed on [2048.43] Curry: Can you make the quad a lot bigger? [2050.43] Tony: Trevor is a dino [2054.43] Tony: Yes [2055.43] Tony: Ah, so Trevor is dino [2057.43] Tony: Been sick too, oh man [2060.43] Tony: I know, nobody [2063.43] Jack: I've still got your quad hanging on the wall [2070.43] Jack: There is a mode for oversized quad, isn't there? [2075.43] Curry: You can make them look bigger in the online game [2078.43] Curry: But they're not actually bigger, they just look bigger [2080.43] Curry: You can't do anything [2082.43] Curry: It helps when chasing [2086.48] Curry: But yeah, I can make them look smaller and bigger [2088.48] Curry: But it's mostly just cosmetic [2095.48] Curry: So all the people's requests for, can you put a different quad in it? [2099.48] Curry: It's like yeah, but after I do all the other stuff [2102.48] Curry: Which isn't happening because now it's too hot [2104.48] Curry: And also I've got that HD system down there I need to put together [2108.48] Curry: Fortunately Jack's here so I can ask all my pie questions to him [2111.48] Curry: No [2113.48] Curry: I'll be safe [2115.48] Curry: Because Jack is a pie expert, or a pexpert as we call them in the trade [2121.48] Jack: Jack's a dickhead [2124.48] Frank: So Jack, what were you dragging Don Clifton on to talk about before he threw himself down the stairs? [2133.48] Tony: Hopefully he will do it in a couple of weeks [2137.48] Tony: And we can put him back in again [2139.48] Jack: Off my wrong leg a few weeks ago [2144.05] Jack: Oh buddy, no [2147.05] Curry: I expect so, as opposed to you lost it in the sofa or something [2152.97] Tony: Where is it? Or if we can't find it [2155.97] Tony: It's like the bottom scene isn't it with a carved wooden leg [2161.63] Jack: Something like that [2163.63] Tony: Maybe you should watch that Trevor, you'll probably find that quite amusing [2167.63] Jack: Yeah, if you find any enjoyment in this [2172.63] Tony: Well he knows what we like and stuff though [2178.63] Curry: Oh no, this is full of bad injuries now [2183.63] Curry: Sorry to Trevor, but now we're talking about thumbs getting chopped off [2190.63] Curry: By sticking it through the prop on a nitro plate [2193.63] Curry: I'm hoping he didn't say, hey is this spinning? [2196.63] Curry: Wow [2198.63] Frank: Exactly the sort of story [2200.63] Frank: Yeah, save these from gmail.com [2203.63] Curry: Mr Shady's picked too early here, save these [2206.63] Tony: Save these because this is going to be our October Halloween special [2212.63] Frank: Why did he stick it through the prop? [2215.63] Frank: What sort of plane was it? [2221.63] Tony: And is there any pictures please get them ready for October [2225.63] Curry: The scariest I've seen the worst pictures ever of launches going wrong [2231.63] Curry: Because when a launch goes wrong and people don't release their hand [2234.63] Curry: What you get is cuts all the way down the arm of the prop [2238.63] Curry: And it's nasty, really nasty [2243.63] Jack: When I first flew years ago with Tony and Dan Upton and Oscar Lang [2253.63] Jack: I took off too close to me and zipped all those bits of my knuckles from the Tyrannus [2262.63] Jack: And the quad went up my knuckles and that was pretty horrible [2267.63] Jack: Sorry, that day, I don't know whether you remember that [2270.63] Jack: That was the day where we set up some gates and we were flying through them [2276.01] Tony: I can't remember, probably about five, six years ago [2280.01] Tony: Probably six years ago [2282.01] Tony: If this has been going five years we must have been flying quads and stuff for at least six years then now [2289.01] Jack: I know [2290.01] Tony: I've always been flying about five years but I keep forgetting it's time carries on [2295.01] Tony: And it's probably six or seven years now [2298.01] Jack: And you're not 20 anymore [2300.01] Tony: Well, my brain and always still think I'm 20 [2303.01] Tony: My body's starting to say no, but at least I don't fall down the stairs [2308.01] Curry: Yeah, dementia all the way back then too [2311.01] Tony: I do [2312.01] Tony: Well, that old boy who falls down the stairs, Dominic Clifston [2317.01] Curry: Oh [2318.01] Tony: That's an old boy there, isn't it? [2320.01] Tony: He's probably listening [2322.01] Curry: I remember the last time you were in hospital, Jack, you did the podcast from your bed [2329.01] Curry: So, come on, Don [2331.01] Tony: I remember that, I kept pressing [2335.01] Tony: I kept, he was really chatty, chatty, chatty [2339.01] Tony: And there was this button I could press to administer morphine [2343.01] Tony: Shine off [2344.01] Curry: It's a bit chatty, it's making him unconscious [2349.01] Tony: Thanks, God [2351.01] Tony: Oh, God, his wee was this colour, it was orange, worse than that [2355.01] Tony: Do you remember, Jack, your wee was so orange [2358.01] Jack: Why are you talking about this? [2360.01] Jack: Any more of my personal, like, medical history you want to give out? [2365.01] Tony: I remember you chatting, I was just saying [2368.01] Jack: I wish I was, I'm gonna log in [2372.01] Frank: This is what you get from five years of weekly podcasts [2376.01] Curry: Jack's just gone to throw himself down the stairs now to get out of this conversation [2380.01] Tony: Oh, God, it was all funny sitting there [2383.01] Tony: Did you see his eyes roll back and he said [2385.01] Tony: Oh, press that button again [2389.01] Curry: I've been really lucky, people are talking about, like, accidental arming and stuff [2393.01] Curry: And when I was first trying to make my quadcopter, which was eight years ago now, would you believe? [2399.01] Curry: I hadn't any experience of radios [2402.01] Curry: And someone had lent me this 40 megahertz one, which I just plugged in [2405.01] Curry: And I didn't know about channels and stuff [2408.01] Curry: And I was trying to figure out what control did what, not knowing [2411.01] Curry: And I started reversing channels and seeing what would happen [2414.01] Curry: And of course I reversed to throttle [2416.01] Curry: And this huge tricom just jumped back and hit me in the face [2420.01] Curry: Fortunately, the props didn't get me, it sort of went bleh [2423.01] Curry: Weirdly, I managed to do that twice [2426.01] Curry: I didn't learn from the first one [2428.01] Curry: And I got a small cut on the leg, so I got pretty lucky there [2432.01] Frank: Robin FPV says he came from helicopters, so he already had a healthy dose of care and attention [2437.01] Curry: Yeah, I guess you only get to make your mistake once with a big heli, don't you? [2441.01] Tony: Chuba Java said I'd done the same, luckily I was wearing Kevlar gloves [2445.01] Tony: And it only damaged them, never put pre-arm on a quad so fast in my life [2451.01] Tony: Oh, yeah, oh no, there is bad stuff what's happened [2455.01] Tony: I mean, I've still got a chin injury under this little goatee beard [2461.01] Tony: It is a pretty big scar, where I'll get it in the face with a quad [2468.01] Tony: That was not nice, dang [2470.01] Tony: That was a 5S with a GoPro on it [2473.01] Curry: Do you remember we were at a hobby king and someone managed to get hit in the face by someone else's quad, didn't they? [2479.01] Frank: Yeah, that was not good [2481.01] Curry: No, that was like... [2482.01] Curry: Did they even go to hospital like me? [2485.01] Curry: Well, they were very manly about it, weren't they, just like, whatever, it's a quad [2489.01] Curry: It looks quite bad [2491.01] Curry: I just don't know how that happened [2493.01] Curry: I mean, it was a very small area to keep a quad in and you weren't netted away from anybody [2501.01] Frank: Well, I reckon I could take a punch zone between the racing area and just Joe Public [2509.01] Tony: I snapped someone's quad in half with my chin, so I ain't got a glass chin, I should have been a boxer [2518.01] Curry: Is this you just going up and going on a quad or did it hit you first? [2522.01] Tony: No, it flew into me [2524.01] Tony: Shouldn't have been on track and it flew into me [2527.01] Tony: And it was 5S with a GoPro on it, it was very fast, it was at the start of the race, so it was [2533.01] Tony: Didn't get knocked out, so [2538.86] Tony: But it was very painful [2541.86] Tony: Very painful [2543.86] Tony: Anyway, these are stories [2545.86] Tony: It sounds like a new jackass stunt, doesn't it? [2547.86] Curry: It's like, hi, I'm Johnny Knoxville and this is quad punch [2553.86] Tony: I watched, what was I watching? [2556.86] Tony: I had to turn off [2558.86] Tony: Because I watched some of it [2560.86] Tony: He was on a YouTube thing [2563.86] Tony: And he was doing my top ten injuries or something [2566.86] Tony: And I got to about three and went, nope [2568.86] Tony: Oh, now, nope [2571.86] Tony: And he jumped in something and caught his back on something [2575.86] Tony: And then his bone come out his foot and I was like, that's enough [2579.86] Tony: No, I don't care, you can be a millionaire by doing that [2583.86] Tony: I'm not, no way [2585.86] Tony: Rough [2587.86] Frank: So he says, every video on YouTube about how to set up pre-arm is done by someone with a plaster on their finger [2595.86] Tony: That's brilliant, look at this [2598.86] Tony: Jeremiah Davis says, my DJ Igels and Nebula are coming today, what drone do I install on first? [2605.86] Tony: Woop, five, six or seven inch [2608.86] Tony: I don't know, what do you fly the most, stick it on that, that's what I say [2612.86] Jack: Will it fit in a woop? [2614.86] Tony: Nope [2616.86] Tony: Big one, yeah [2618.86] Tony: Big one [2620.86] Tony: I see, right, name some people that we know [2626.86] Tony: Jesus Christ [2628.86] Tony: Time to lay dementia [2632.86] Tony: Bloods, bloods have got it [2634.86] Tony: Bloods has just released a new, a little three inch drone that you can put the CanX in [2641.86] Tony: I can't think of what it's called but he's got a nice little, nice little quad three inch [2649.86] Tony: Have a look Frank, quick, tell me what it's called [2652.86] Tony: I'm so hot [2654.86] Curry: These comments are starting to get hard to read, Jibber-Jibber again [2657.86] Curry: I did have to glue my hand up the other week but that was due to a Stanley knife getting too close [2662.86] Curry: while working on a plane, they're dangerous too [2665.86] Tony: Glue wasn't actually invented for [2667.86] Curry: Yeah, I think Super Glue was invented for medical stuff, wasn't it? [2671.86] Tony: It was invented for glue, because my brother used to glue all the time [2677.86] Tony: He used to send me pictures of his fingers and like bits hanging off [2681.86] Tony: And then he used to stick it back together and just literally glue it [2684.86] Tony: And I used to go, that's disgusting, but it worked all the time [2687.86] Tony: And then I looked into it and it was what, yeah, they invented it in the first world war to glue people's stuff [2696.86] Tony: I don't think it's the guitar pick [2698.86] Curry: It's not the guitar pick, I saw, yeah the Odin, you're right [2702.86] Tony: Odin it's called, yeah [2706.86] Curry: It's quite useful, you've said what size it is [2708.86] Curry: Because I saw the picture and I couldn't work out just from the picture what size it was [2713.86] Curry: Because they all look kind of proportionally the same, it could have been anything [2717.86] Tony: It looks pretty good, I'm going to, I might get him to make me one because I can't [2726.86] Curry: Can't make anything [2728.86] Tony: I made my plane fly once and then Jack made it fly the rest of the time [2733.86] Curry: Didn't really fly, did it? You threw it hard [2737.86] Tony: Flying, gliding is flying, isn't it? [2741.86] Curry: Well then a stone flies for a while as you throw it [2744.86] Jack: It does [2745.86] Jack: It's the only person I've ever known to successfully fly something using servos powered by 12 volts instead of 5 [2756.86] Frank: Thank you, thank you [2759.86] Frank: Fraser Steen has a little story in the chat of when Andy RC nearly died from a prop strike [2765.86] Frank: I was there for that, we did definitely have to administer first aid for that one [2771.86] Tony: What happened to that one? I don't know that story [2773.86] Tony: I can't talk about this until all the time [2775.86] Tony: Do we have to wait till Halloween? [2777.86] Frank: Yep [2779.86] Frank: If someone sends me in a good horror story maybe we'll share the Andy RC story with them earlier [2786.86] Frank: Otherwise you've got to wait till Halloween episode [2789.86] Frank: Yeah [2790.86] Curry: Ah, disappointment [2795.16] Frank: Concrete Snail's first aid kit is super glue and electrical tape [2799.16] Jack: That's a good kit [2801.16] Jack: Funny enough, we used electrical tape for gauze [2807.16] Curry: I do know one of my friends that used to fly at Mad Dogs was building up really long range stuff [2815.16] Curry: And he went for this launch and it caught his hand [2820.16] Curry: And he said [2822.16] Curry: I don't think he's watched it yet [2824.16] Curry: Basically he's got a snuff video of all these camera angles as this thing tore his hand in [2830.16] Curry: And he said [2831.16] Curry: Well, he managed basically to call his wife and say [2834.16] Curry: I think I've bugged myself up, help, I'm down here, get an ambulance [2839.16] Curry: And she was like so unfazed [2841.16] Curry: She's like, ah, I can see all your tendons from here, this is amazing [2844.16] Curry: And so he said he's got the SD cards but he's never had the guts to watch it back yet [2850.16] Curry: I don't know if that's still the case or he's actually [2852.16] Tony: See if we can get that SD card for our Halloween episode [2860.16] Curry: That'll put people off [2862.16] Curry: That is a real horror show [2863.16] Frank: There's also a story I've got from a few years ago from when someone managed to do a suicide dive into someone else's face [2873.16] Frank: That was entertaining [2874.16] Frank: Ouch [2875.16] Frank: Oh yeah, I remember that [2876.16] Jack: I think that was the one she talked about at those clips you mentioned [2880.16] Jack: I thought you were never going to talk about those because it was that horrific [2884.16] Jack: It was pretty bad [2886.16] Jack: I don't remember that [2889.16] Jack: I think I've got to buy a new GoPro lens [2892.16] Jack: What have you done to it? [2894.16] Jack: I let Sheldon near it [2896.16] Jack: That's a bad idea [2898.16] Curry: Where are you on your stripping down a GoPro idea, Tony? Have you given up on that idea? [2903.5] Curry: Naked GoPro? [2905.5] Tony: Well, Covid happened and that means no seeing anyone so I couldn't really go down to Jack's [2912.5] Tony: Everyone's stripping [2914.5] Tony: Sixties and not sevens [2916.5] Curry: That's because they want real steady to work with it [2919.5] Tony: I just want a seven strip but there's no online tutorials plus Covid and that means handing it through the letterbox to Jack and things like that [2931.5] Jack: Yep, Tony's not part of my bubble [2934.5] Jack: He chose someone else [2936.5] Jack: I've only got two bubbles [2939.5] Frank: Well, Richard Boric in the chat says this stream should never be shown to the CAA [2945.5] Tony: I don't think any of the LDO stuff should be ever [2949.5] Tony: No, it's true [2951.5] Curry: So who's got flying plans in the next week? [2956.5] UNKNOWN: I've actually blocked [2958.5] Tony: Me [2960.5] Tony: This weekend I'm going to go for a fly because I haven't flown for two weeks and I'm missing it and I'm going to go [2966.5] Tony: With who? [2968.5] Curry: I'd say what you're flying but it's like I've only got one quad now, it's the DJI quad [2973.5] Curry: DJI [2975.5] Tony: I will take it [2977.5] Tony: Me [2979.5] Tony: I will take an old quad but they will be the last [2983.5] Curry: But just a snare out and go [2985.5] Tony: See what you could have had [2988.5] Tony: I don't know the ones that I'll just lob on the floor and stuff [2993.5] Tony: I don't know, I'm just [2995.5] Tony: The thing is like everything's been done [2998.5] Tony: So there's nothing new to do [3000.5] Tony: And I'm still not to a thousand subscribers [3003.5] Tony: I'm just so bloody close [3005.5] Tony: And I just think what can I do different [3007.5] Tony: Because otherwise people are going to see me at Hidden Valley do the same thing [3011.5] Tony: I'm going to follow a plane there [3013.5] Tony: I've just run out of ideas [3016.5] Curry: So I'm just [3018.5] Curry: I keep telling you my dynamite [3020.5] Curry: I'm ideas [3022.5] Curry: And you never guess what happens next business [3024.5] Curry: They seem very popular [3026.5] Curry: And you could do like I flew according to my face [3028.5] Curry: You'll never guess what happened next [3030.5] Curry: Then you can do Tony reacts to man flying quad into face video [3034.5] Curry: Or something like that [3036.5] Curry: I don't like that [3038.5] Frank: Just ideas man here [3040.5] Frank: Fraser Steen in a chat earlier had an interesting suggestion [3045.5] Frank: If you can't fly [3047.5] Frank: Maybe you take your sea kayak out or something [3051.5] Frank: There's all the cruise ships that are out in the channel at the moment [3055.5] Frank: That are all just stuck in the middle of the channel [3059.5] Frank: How far out are they? [3061.5] Jack: Not very [3063.5] Tony: I went out on my [3065.5] Jack: The individual line of sight [3067.5] Tony: I went out on my boat the other day [3070.5] Jack: Did you see any? [3072.5] Tony: Whenever you say I went out on my boat [3074.5] Curry: It sounds like a boat not a canoe [3076.5] Curry: I hate to make that distinction [3078.5] Tony: I went out on my boat [3080.5] Jack: Everyone knows he's not Mr Darcy [3082.5] Tony: I've got a boat boat [3084.5] Tony: I've got three boats but they're kayaks [3086.5] Tony: I've had no lightning here [3089.5] Tony: I've got a quad specifically waterproofed [3092.5] Tony: And plastic [3094.5] Tony: So it won't get struck by lightning [3096.5] Tony: It's not carbon [3098.5] Tony: So I could literally fly up into the lightning [3101.5] Curry: I don't know if it's plastic as well then [3103.5] Curry: I'm confused there [3105.5] Tony: Well they could [3107.5] Frank: They could get [3109.5] Frank: I really don't think the conductivity is a problem [3112.5] Frank: If it's going through a few hundred feet of air [3117.5] Frank: I think probably a couple of millimetres of plastic [3121.5] Frank: Probably aren't going to make too much of a difference [3123.5] Frank: I think you're probably going to have more of an issue with [3127.5] Frank: When there is a lightning strike [3129.5] Frank: All the radio noise [3131.5] Tony: Yeah I know [3133.5] Tony: If there was a storm out there [3135.5] Tony: And I was out and about [3137.5] Tony: And it was coming and I could see it [3139.5] Tony: I'll take my waterproof call and I'll fly it [3142.5] Tony: Straight up into a storm [3144.5] Tony: A mile out from Southampton and Plymouth [3147.5] Curry: Oh I think I know where it must be [3150.5] Curry: I've still got my nautical chance [3152.5] Curry: From when I had an actual boat [3154.5] Curry: And there is a deep water [3156.5] Curry: If I had to fly out to there I wouldn't even take my boat [3159.5] Curry: There's a deep water mooring [3161.5] Curry: Which most of the big container ships and cruise ships [3164.5] Curry: Use just outside of Southampton water [3166.5] Curry: Southampton water is the sort of area that [3169.5] Curry: There's sort of a fin between Southampton and like Gosport [3172.5] Curry: That then goes out into the Solent [3174.5] Curry: So you could definitely [3176.5] Curry: So my friend [3177.5] Curry: Anything you went flying out there is [3179.5] Curry: My friend was probably Bruce [3181.5] Tony: I don't know what you were up to on the beach [3183.5] Tony: Come from Isle of Wight [3185.5] Tony: Come over on the ferry [3187.5] Tony: And then come up to me and then we went out [3189.5] Tony: So I might go and see him [3191.5] Tony: And then go and fly out to rather than Paddle [3194.5] Tony: If it's only a mile out I could fly out to that and back [3197.5] Tony: Easy [3199.5] Curry: Beaches might be a bit busy at the moment [3201.5] Curry: That's your only problem [3202.5] Tony: Oh you know me I'll get up at 4am [3205.5] Jack: Oh God [3206.5] Tony: Be there at 4.30 [3208.5] Tony: Flying out [3211.5] Jack: What is wrong with him? [3213.5] Tony: I'm living my life Jack [3215.5] Tony: I'm having fun [3216.5] Curry: He's living his life but going to bed at 10 o'clock [3218.5] Tony: I do go to bed at 10 [3220.5] Tony: Actually it's 9 now [3222.5] Jack: Can you imagine him in an old people's home [3225.5] Jack: He's the only person who's happy to be there [3228.5] Tony: I'll be the only person not waiting myself [3230.5] Tony: And still standing up while you lot are in wheelchairs [3233.5] Tony: And pissing your pants [3235.5] Jack: I'll be defecating myself [3237.5] Tony: Exactly, you're already doing it now [3240.5] Tony: It's like we're still [3242.5] Jack: 4am's a particularly active hour [3245.5] Jack: It's amazing [3246.5] Jack: Is anyone getting the ghost? [3249.5] Jack: I don't know, Frank could [3251.5] Jack: Because Frank isn't a crossfire boy [3254.5] Jack: This is correct [3255.5] Jack: And Curry's a reviewer [3257.5] Frank: I would potentially [3258.5] Curry: Yes but I did message Tony [3260.5] Curry: And Tony responded by not responding at all [3263.5] Curry: And completely ignoring me so [3265.5] Curry: I call him earlier [3267.5] Curry: I'm not looking good there [3268.5] Tony: You call him on the telly one [3269.5] Tony: Or did he say I fell down the stairs [3272.5] Jack: No, he just ignores me [3274.5] Jack: I might have called him as well [3275.5] Tony: Let's all call him and say [3277.5] Tony: Look, come on, talk about it [3279.5] Curry: You're being ignored [3280.5] Curry: I'm interested because it seems like [3282.5] Curry: Did we talk about this last night? [3284.5] Curry: It seems like too [3285.5] Curry: Very quickly there's been two 2.4 systems [3289.5] Curry: That talk long range [3290.5] Curry: Although that flysky one apparently goes up to 2 watts [3293.5] Curry: Which could have something to do with the range it can get [3296.5] Tony: And fry your brain [3298.5] Curry: But is it like suddenly there's this new 2.4 chip [3301.5] Curry: And a couple of people have jumped on it very quickly [3303.5] Curry: And said, oh look we can go for a long way with this [3308.5] Jack: Did I? [3309.5] Jack: I guess so [3310.5] Jack: It was kind of covered in Joshua Bardwell's video though [3314.5] Curry: I watched it [3315.5] Curry: What did I say on it? [3316.5] Curry: I did watch it but surprisingly [3318.5] Curry: They didn't talk about other 2.4 systems [3321.5] Curry: Whilst they were doing the advertisement there [3325.5] Frank: Robin FPV says he's not really happy [3327.5] Frank: With the look of any radio or system at the moment [3329.5] Frank: And I know what he means [3331.5] Frank: The closest I've got to being like [3333.5] Frank: Ah that could be an interesting new radio [3335.5] Frank: Was actually the B2FPV one [3337.5] Frank: The ridiculously cheap one [3339.5] Frank: That you had to like glue the ballast into [3343.5] Frank: That was like, ah [3345.5] Frank: That's an interesting thing [3347.5] Jack: Why glue the ballast? [3350.5] Jack: Don't you mean ballast? [3352.5] Tony: Yeah look Dave Story said there's a new chip [3356.5] Frank: It's a new chip called LoRa [3358.5] Frank: Oh apparently [3362.5] Frank: It's a system that's been around for ages [3366.5] Frank: I don't know why they would now come into this [3370.5] Frank: It definitely was ballast Jack [3373.5] Frank: It's like literal lumps of lead [3375.5] Curry: Yeah I've got it here and what happened during shipping [3378.5] Curry: When I got it I sort of rattled [3381.5] Curry: And what I found is there's these little weights [3383.5] Curry: In each of these to make it feel [3386.5] Curry: Like oh it's quality because it's heavy [3388.5] Curry: And if you take them out it's lighter [3390.5] Curry: And I just took that back in [3392.5] Curry: And also my little vibrate-y thing [3395.5] Curry: What would you call that? [3397.5] Curry: Had fallen out and I took that back in [3399.5] Jack: Haptic sensor [3401.5] Curry: Yeah but it's not your traditional one [3403.5] Curry: With the sort of spinny thing with weights [3406.5] Curry: That are uneven it was just this little [3408.5] Curry: Like a coin cell almost [3411.98] Jack: Was it haptic or taptic or something? [3413.98] Jack: I can't remember [3416.98] Curry: It's not bad prices at 116 quid free receivers [3420.98] Curry: That puts it very squarely against the micro crossfire pack [3426.98] Curry: I guess [3428.98] Curry: The version 2 [3430.98] Tony: Everyone's going to jump ship from crossfire to that [3433.98] Curry: Or just wait and see what happens [3435.98] Curry: I expect a bit of waiting because it's about [3439.98] Curry: More bandwidth on that frequency [3441.98] Curry: Isn't it you've got room to hop about as opposed to [3443.98] Curry: Rices I suppose [3445.98] Curry: You might have to turn off telemetry don't you [3447.98] Curry: As soon as you get more than a few up there [3450.98] Tony: I'm happy with more crossfire [3452.98] Tony: I'm just going to leave it [3453.98] Jack: I can't tell you what this group is [3455.98] Jack: But it was an FPV group [3457.98] Jack: And it was [3459.98] Jack: Hmmm [3461.98] Jack: Hooligan [3463.98] Jack: Long range hooligans [3465.98] Tony: No [3467.98] Tony: You're allowed [3469.98] Tony: We can try long range hooligans [3472.98] Jack: I thought he could remember it [3474.98] Jack: I was very surprised to find some people that I know in it [3480.98] Jack: Who I thought were good boys and girls [3485.98] Tony: Yeah, I agree [3487.98] Jack: Yeah, I'm shocked and I saw like the Matek 1.3 in there [3493.98] Jack: And I was chatting to Payness about that [3497.98] Jack: And he says it doesn't really work with [3500.98] Jack: GPS sensors [3502.98] Jack: So it upsets them [3506.98] Tony: AudioGeek says it's limited in Europe [3511.98] Tony: What is that the ghost we're talking about? [3514.98] Jack: Yeah [3516.98] Tony: That's probably why it doesn't want to come on and talk to us a lot then [3519.98] Tony: Let's go to America and talk [3521.98] Tony: Where I can really say it goes far [3524.98] Tony: But if I come on the LDO podcast [3526.98] Tony: So you're in England I have to say [3528.98] Tony: It's only limited to one milliwatt and it goes to the end of the garden [3532.98] Curry: That's what they don't understand [3534.98] Curry: Anywhere currently in the world you can fly for 10 miles with this [3538.98] Curry: Or you could say you could, but of course you wouldn't [3541.98] Curry: But it'll get you to the edge of line of sight really nicely [3545.98] Tony: With line of sight can you use [3549.98] Curry: Enoculus [3550.98] Tony: No [3551.98] Tony: No [3552.98] Tony: Why did, how then did Rotariot do line of sight video using telephones and cars [3566.57] Curry: I expect they broke some rules [3568.57] Tony: It wasn't in the UK obviously USA [3573.1] Tony: But they were telephoning line of sight [3577.1] Tony: Yes I can still see it because it's flying right next to my effing car [3582.1] Frank: Well you can do extended visual line of sight [3585.1] Frank: But you have to get an extra [3588.1] Frank: You have to write out how you're going to do it [3591.1] Frank: Like risk assessments and all that kind of stuff [3593.1] Frank: And send it to the CAA and they go yes [3595.1] Tony: Risk assessments, it's flying next to our car at three foot [3599.1] Frank: Exactly, so you know [3601.1] Frank: You'd have to make the case that it's not going to harm anyone else [3605.1] Frank: That isn't under your control [3607.1] Frank: Isn't going to be a risk to general aviation and all that kind of stuff [3612.1] Tony: And send pictures to the CAA of my spotter with load of carrots next to him [3618.1] Tony: My spotter has really good eyesight because they never get to a limit [3625.74] Jack: Fair enough [3626.74] Jack: Shall we call it there? [3627.74] Jack: Yep [3628.74] Jack: No worries, thank you [3629.74] Jack: You've been listening to Lestrone out [3631.74] Jack: Hopefully we will have an excellent show next week [3634.74] Jack: Because it will be the fifth year anniversary [3636.74] Jack: Don't forget to send in your FPV horror stories ready for October [3641.74] Tony: Next week [3643.74] Jack: Nice to shout out to our Patreons [3645.74] Jack: Tony's now in charge, carry on Tony [3648.74] Tony: I'm sorry, I just wanted to say a thing for you next week [3652.74] Tony: Sorry, carry on Jack [3654.74] Jack: Just so they don't throw themselves down the stairs [3656.74] Tony: They're probably all right [3658.74] Jack: We hope you're alright Hydra [3660.74] Jack: And getting better and you're not too seriously hurt [3664.74] Jack: Thank you, I've been joined by my little wife [3667.74] Jack: Bonjour [3669.74] Jack: Andrew slash Frank [3670.74] Jack: Bye [3671.74] Jack: Everyone's favourite curry kitten [3673.74] Jack: Help me, I'm melting [3675.74] Jack: Love you bro [3676.74] Jack: Thank you guys, thank you Patreons [3679.74] Jack: Thank you everyone [3680.74] Jack: We love you all [3681.74] UNKNOWN: Telemetry lost