=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 268 ===
Title: LDO 268 - Scrapheap Challenged
Recorded: 2020-10-15
Hosts: Neil "NJ Tech" Jones, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andy, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant
Guest(s): Peter "The Editor" Hyams
Total audience: 2,248
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hvdrF6HAQ); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/912210841-letsdroneout-ldo-268-scrapheap-challenged.mp3)
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[0.0] Curry: Welcome to Let's Drone Out, the original and best drone themed podcast.
[5.0] Curry: We record the show live on the Thursday night on youtube.com forward slash Let's Drone Out
[10.0] Curry: and our lovely patrons help with the editing costs.
[12.0] Curry: These are...
[13.0] Curry: Wacky Wes
[14.0] Curry: Mikey Dread
[15.0] Curry: Art Faulkner
[17.0] Curry: Carlos Campos
[19.0] Curry: Thank you
[20.0] Jack: Hello and welcome back to Let's Drone Out.
[54.26] Jack: Tonight we are joined by everyone's favourite, Curry Kitten.
[59.26] Jack: Hello.
[60.26] Jack: Any chance of a disclaimer, mate?
[62.26] Curry: Any views expressed by any guests on this show are personal and may not reflect the views of others.
[67.26] Curry: Thank you.
[69.26] Jack: The person that brought you the box of s***, Andrew slash Frank.
[74.26] Jack: Hello.
[75.26] Jack: Boo.
[76.26] Jack: Boo.
[78.6] Jack: The sexiest man alive, N.J. Tech.
[81.6] NJ: Good evening.
[82.6] NJ: Oh, sorry.
[83.6] NJ: I'm glad you jumped in there because I was like, we'll get him one of these days, but he's getting quicker at it.
[88.6] NJ: Hello, everyone.
[89.6] NJ: Nice to see you all.
[90.6] Jack: The second sexiest little Twinkie in the box, Andy R.C.
[98.6] Jack: Good evening.
[99.6] Jack: Very popular amongst certain communities.
[104.6] Jack: What?
[105.6] AndyRC: What does that mean?
[108.6] AndyRC: It looks like your wife is trying to spout that community to me almost.
[112.6] Jack: Curry, how are you?
[114.6] Jack: My secret delved into that community.
[118.6] Jack: My wife, my little person that I play hide the vegan sausage with.
[124.6] Jack: Thank you, British Bonjour.
[126.6] Jack: Tony.
[127.6] Jack: And I'm your host, Bright Until I Fly, or one off.
[132.6] Jack: I don't know.
[135.6] Tony: We're all hosts on here, Jack.
[138.6] Tony: Yeah.
[139.6] Tony: You are the main character, though.
[142.6] Tony: A character.
[143.6] Tony: Yeah.
[144.6] NJ: What a lovely welcoming start.
[146.6] NJ: Look at all these lovely people in the chat saying lovely things.
[149.6] NJ: Oh, I see that HPI wife, Rich.
[152.6] NJ: Yeah.
[153.6] Frank: Yeah.
[154.6] Frank: Richard Warwick might be a bit disappointed, but we'll see.
[158.6] Frank: You said N.J. Texan, so we're going to be talking proper quad stuff.
[162.6] Frank: We can only eat five.
[164.6] Frank: Yeah.
[165.6] Frank: Don't pick me out if I try.
[168.6] Frank: So the idea of tonight, I don't know how much we'll actually do with this.
[175.6] Frank: We'll see what's actually happened.
[177.6] Frank: But back in March when I wasn't on the show a lot because I was doing loads of stuff at work,
[185.6] Frank: I was feeling left out and decided that I would cause trouble by sending everyone a box
[191.6] Frank: of weird junk that was laying around in someone's model shop, essentially.
[199.6] Frank: So I think you opened them all on the show where there was all sorts of various bits
[206.6] Tony: and bits.
[207.6] Tony: It was high covid time and everyone was scared and we were hoping them with face masks, bleach,
[212.6] Tony: gloves.
[213.6] Curry: And then my one didn't arrive for like another two days anyway.
[216.6] Curry: It missed the cutoff point.
[218.6] Frank: Yes.
[219.6] Frank: But yeah, so that was about six months ago.
[223.6] Frank: And we started with, because Weston Park had been delayed to this weekend, middle of October.
[231.6] Frank: And we said, ah, well, what we'll do is we'll get everyone to build something out of it
[235.6] Frank: and then bring them along to that because we'll probably all end up going to that if it's safe
[239.6] Frank: to do so, which, you know, it'll be October by then.
[241.6] Frank: There's ages away.
[242.6] Frank: It'll all be over by Christmas.
[245.6] Frank: That'll all be sorted out and we'll all run them together and see what happens.
[249.6] Frank: That hasn't quite worked out, but about a few weeks ago anyway, we kind of said, oh, yeah,
[261.6] Frank: we'll still kind of show them on the show what's been going on with them.
[266.6] Frank: So I think there's some various levels of development with these.
[276.6] Jack: Yes.
[277.6] Jack: Thank you, Zero.
[278.6] Tony: Thank you, Zero, for your $10 donation.
[283.6] Jack: Hang on.
[284.6] Jack: I like all these at once because...
[287.6] Tony: That worked well last time, Jack.
[289.6] Tony: Get your hair out of the way, mate.
[292.6] Jack: Hey, thanks, boy.
[294.6] Jack: I'm school Zero.
[295.6] Jack: I'm glad you got the stickers.
[297.6] Jack: What did you think of them?
[298.6] Jack: Are they good?
[299.6] Jack: Are you happy with them?
[300.6] Jack: What have you stuck them on?
[302.6] Jack: Please, boy, more.
[304.6] Tony: I'm putting mine on my new toy.
[307.6] Tony: Your new toy?
[308.6] Tony: Which is?
[309.6] Tony: I bought an Inspire.
[311.6] Tony: Have you?
[313.6] Tony: Yeah, I always wanted one.
[315.6] Tony: Oh, totally.
[316.6] Jack: I took it out of you.
[317.6] Jack: Quad-related subject and it didn't have a...
[320.6] Jack: Yes.
[322.6] Curry: Where did you get all this money from?
[324.6] Curry: Unbelievable.
[325.6] Curry: So rich.
[326.6] AndyRC: It drives people in that and, you know...
[328.6] AndyRC: It's government.
[329.6] AndyRC: Government, yeah.
[332.6] AndyRC: Cheers, Boris, for my Inspire, mate.
[334.6] AndyRC: Cheers.
[335.6] AndyRC: Oh, God.
[338.6] AndyRC: What are you doing with your Inspire?
[340.6] AndyRC: What are you going to be poking that into?
[343.6] AndyRC: I don't know.
[344.6] Tony: I've just always wanted one and one come up
[347.6] Tony: with two controllers and three batteries.
[350.6] Tony: I was going to get the X5 camera,
[353.6] Tony: but I was talking to Eddie,
[355.6] Tony: who we've had on the show before,
[357.6] Tony: and he's got a three grand Apple Mac
[360.6] Tony: and he said my PC would struggle to render
[364.6] Tony: and make videos, so I just whipped the X3 camera
[368.6] Tony: and the little white one it came with.
[370.6] Tony: It's still pretty good.
[372.6] Tony: The Inspire 1 or the latest one?
[374.6] Tony: It's the Inspire 1,
[375.6] Tony: but it's got the Inspire 2 motors and stuff on it,
[378.6] Tony: so it's kind of a bit of a mix,
[382.6] Tony: but it flies all right and works all right,
[385.6] Tony: and, yeah, I've got spares for it.
[387.6] Tony: I've even got the gimbal plate for an X5 camera.
[390.6] Tony: If the future, I want to put an X5 camera on it.
[394.6] Curry: It goes slightly differently from your last idea
[396.6] Curry: of putting naked GoPros on 95mm quads
[400.6] Curry: and the slightly bigger city whoops.
[402.6] Curry: Are you intending to fly this indoors at the next make-a-meet?
[406.6] Curry: Because I can actually blow everything off the shelf this time.
[409.6] Curry: I'm coming.
[410.6] Tony: No, but I can put an amount of GoPro on it
[414.6] Tony: for different kind of views.
[416.6] Tony: You know, filming the drone, yeah.
[419.6] NJ: It could probably lift quite a lot of stuff, that thing.
[422.6] NJ: Yeah.
[423.6] NJ: I will say something that I kind of can't talk about
[429.6] NJ: as a subject just yet,
[431.6] NJ: but I will on LDO talk about something very interesting
[434.6] NJ: related to DJI's and airports and the likes,
[440.6] NJ: but I will say, I have it on good authority,
[443.6] NJ: that the, is it the Aeroscope system?
[446.6] NJ: That was it, wasn't it?
[447.6] NJ: Yes.
[448.6] NJ: Aeroscope is very much active and working.
[451.6] NJ: This is not me, by the way, we're talking about,
[454.6] NJ: nor am I going to say asking for a friend
[456.6] NJ: because then that sounds like a easy one.
[458.6] NJ: I got all my DJI quads.
[463.6] NJ: I forgot the handcuff marks really hurt.
[465.6] NJ: Yeah.
[468.6] NJ: I will leave it, I knew you'd go there.
[473.6] NJ: I won't go into any more detail on that,
[475.6] NJ: but there will be something at some point soon
[477.6] NJ: where I will be talking a little bit more about that,
[481.6] NJ: knowing a little bit more.
[484.6] NJ: Yeah, from behind bars.
[487.6] NJ: I actually sold all my DJI drones ages ago now.
[493.6] NJ: I think when you were looking at getting a Mavic Air,
[497.6] NJ: Andrea, I think it was, I sold mine before that.
[500.6] NJ: So ever long ago, that was when I got rid of my stuff.
[503.6] NJ: So I have no DJI drones,
[505.6] NJ: do not start speculating that it was me, it's not.
[508.6] NJ: But I do know someone that has had an experience
[513.6] NJ: with the authorities and it was very revealing
[518.6] NJ: and they were very forthcoming about saying that,
[521.6] NJ: yes, Aeroscope is working, it does work.
[524.6] NJ: And the response time, if you were to fly anything DJI
[529.6] NJ: within the perimeter of or the no fly zone,
[533.6] NJ: the response time is frighteningly fast.
[536.6] NJ: So yes.
[537.6] NJ: So what is this?
[540.6] Tony: My flying field is right on the edge and it says,
[545.6] Tony: do you have permission to fly here?
[547.6] Tony: And I just go, yes, yes.
[550.6] NJ: Yeah, well.
[551.6] NJ: It's quick to visit soon.
[553.6] NJ: Make sure you make sure you do.
[555.6] NJ: Because that Aeroscope system,
[557.6] NJ: it tells quite a lot of information.
[559.6] NJ: It will have the drone serial number.
[562.6] NJ: It will have a very, very good idea of where you are
[567.6] NJ: and what you're up to.
[568.6] NJ: And from that, they'll be able to work out who it's registered to
[571.6] NJ: and all that kind of stuff.
[574.6] NJ: But I do know of an incident where it was a response time
[579.6] NJ: of within the perimeter of under five minutes of...
[583.6] Tony: My dad broke his leg.
[585.6] Tony: It took three and a half hours for bringing an ambulance to turn up.
[591.6] Tony: Yet you can fly a drone in a field legally
[595.6] Tony: and it will turn up in under five minutes.
[597.6] Curry: But when you say legally, you're saying,
[599.6] Curry: yes, I have permission to be here.
[601.6] Tony: Well, it is.
[603.6] Tony: This is why I already draw my stuff in text.
[605.6] Tony: It's just literally on the boundary.
[608.6] Tony: Well, we're all standing.
[610.6] Tony: I can fly it legally.
[612.6] Tony: So I said, yes.
[614.6] NJ: Just be careful that...
[616.6] NJ: I would say to anyone doing this with DJI stuff,
[618.6] NJ: if you're in that slightly precarious position of,
[621.6] NJ: I might be there.
[623.6] NJ: The best thing you can do,
[625.6] NJ: if that's some way that...
[626.6] NJ: The best thing you can do is turn around and retreat another mile
[629.6] NJ: and fly there instead.
[631.6] NJ: The second best thing to do,
[633.6] NJ: which is going back to the situation that I'm aware of,
[637.6] NJ: is actually to write to the local ATC,
[643.6] NJ: email them as we do these days,
[646.6] NJ: and get in touch with them and say,
[648.6] NJ: this is what I intend to do with this drone.
[650.6] NJ: I want to be here. I want to do this.
[652.6] NJ: And you might be quite surprised to try the response.
[655.6] NJ: As I say, I've got a really big juicy story on all of this,
[658.6] NJ: but I have to wait a little longer before we can talk about it.
[661.6] NJ: But I'm sure you've been excited when we get to doing that.
[664.6] NJ: It is a pretty cool story.
[666.6] NJ: But yeah, I've got to move away then.
[671.6] NJ: After this goes off live,
[673.6] NJ: I'm literally going to have to retreat from our little studio
[676.6] NJ: as fast as possible,
[677.6] NJ: because I'm going to now get a million probings
[681.6] NJ: from the LDO crew here wanting to know what that's about.
[684.6] NJ: Andrew knows a bit, but yeah.
[686.6] Jack: I do as well.
[687.6] NJ: We'll find out soon, in due course.
[690.6] Jack: Although I'm not part of the butt pirates,
[695.6] Jack: do you want to talk about your Twitch,
[696.6] Jack: what you've been up to flying away on your Microsoft SIM?
[699.6] Jack: Oh, I get it.
[702.6] NJ: Well, obviously the release of Microsoft Flight SIM,
[706.6] NJ: I'm not sure how many of you have gone out and got into this
[709.6] NJ: because obviously I've never seen a Flight SIM,
[712.6] NJ: be it pertaining to any areas of flight,
[714.6] NJ: whether it's a hobby or a digital combat simulator or Microsoft.
[718.6] NJ: I've never seen anything get so big that it actually sold out the hardware
[722.6] NJ: across the whole country.
[723.6] NJ: No one could get a flight stick in Argos.
[726.6] NJ: Wherever you wanted to go and buy flight controls,
[728.6] NJ: they were sold out everywhere,
[730.6] NJ: and they were actually being profiteered on things like eBay
[734.6] NJ: because everyone actually went mad over the new release
[738.6] NJ: of Microsoft Flight SIM.
[739.6] NJ: So a lot of people have got it.
[740.6] NJ: It is brilliant.
[741.6] NJ: It's got a new fog roll.
[742.6] NJ: Yeah, but flight sticks.
[745.6] NJ: How will I survive without my T-Flight Hotels?
[750.6] NJ: So yeah, I've been doing a lot of flying in that,
[753.6] NJ: which has been brilliant fun.
[757.6] NJ: Yeah, I've been doing an awful lot of that,
[759.6] NJ: but I have got a Twitch where I do most of that,
[762.6] NJ: and it's a bit of a weird name.
[764.6] NJ: I'll put it in the chat if anyone wants to drop me a sub.
[767.6] NJ: I'd be very grateful to come and watch me fly around with it.
[771.6] NJ: One of my good friends is a commercial pilot who flies 777s,
[776.6] NJ: although he's not doing a lot of that right now, obviously,
[778.6] NJ: because there's not a lot of demand for transatlantic flight,
[780.6] NJ: funnily enough.
[781.6] NJ: But he's often in there with me on the flight,
[785.6] NJ: so you can ask a commercial pilot some questions.
[788.6] NJ: Sheldon, the drone doctor, as many of you know,
[791.6] NJ: in Brighton, up the road from Jack and Tony,
[794.6] NJ: he's also doing his PPL at the minute,
[796.6] NJ: and he's in there too, so it's real.
[799.6] NJ: Sheldon.
[800.6] NJ: We have a laugh, and we mess around as well,
[802.6] NJ: so I'll drop the Twitch in the chat.
[804.6] NJ: Come say hello.
[806.6] Jack: Even the commercial pilot flies the most erratically
[811.6] Jack: and irresponsibly out of...
[813.6] NJ: That's the best bit, isn't it?
[815.6] NJ: Yeah.
[816.6] NJ: He's the most sensible, me,
[817.6] NJ: and then the commercial pilots inverted flying in front of me
[820.6] NJ: in a Cessna.
[822.6] Jack: He's in somewhere.
[824.6] Jack: Yeah.
[825.6] Jack: On a runway.
[826.6] Jack: Of course.
[827.6] Jack: Very amusing times, but definitely give NJ Tech a follow,
[833.6] Jack: because once he gets to 50, he can get to Ophelia,
[836.6] Jack: and it's quite a good watch.
[837.6] Jack: It's quite late at night, something good to relax to,
[840.6] Jack: and usually it's quite funny, and it's always good to...
[843.6] Jack: Enough.
[844.6] Jack: Yeah, it's always, always good to, like, you know,
[847.6] Jack: see what you guys are getting up to,
[849.6] Jack: and you learn a lot, weirdly enough.
[851.6] Jack: Ian, pop it on the knowledge to NJ.
[855.6] Tony: Yeah, how to fly upside down in a commercial.
[858.6] Frank: Yeah.
[860.6] NJ: It's often him mocking me.
[862.6] NJ: I'll say, right, talk me through, you know,
[865.6] NJ: the vertical speed I need, what do I need to do to get on the ILS
[868.6] NJ: for a nice approach, blah, blah, blah,
[870.6] NJ: and he'll say, well, what you do is you put the throttle all the way in,
[873.6] NJ: and you pull back 90 degrees, and he'll just go and do some loop,
[876.6] NJ: and he'll just take the mick out of me.
[881.6] Jack: I have learned all the different models of aircraft
[884.6] Jack: that do and don't have coffee cup holders.
[888.6] Jack: That's why, man.
[891.6] Jack: How of whinging about, this hasn't got a coffee cup holder,
[894.6] Jack: I've been looking for it.
[896.6] NJ: And which commercial plane has the best footwell heaters
[899.6] NJ: was another discussion.
[902.6] NJ: The stuff that you wouldn't think are important to pilots.
[905.6] NJ: Yep.
[906.6] NJ: Which airliner has the best coffee?
[909.6] Tony: I'm just getting rid of the jumbo.
[912.6] Tony: I love that plane.
[913.6] NJ: It's gone already last Thursday, last flight out.
[917.6] Tony: The VA got rid of theirs, Virgin got rid of theirs.
[920.6] Tony: You can actually buy bits now on, I can't remember the page,
[925.6] Tony: the YouTube page.
[927.6] Tony: But you can buy windows, and they're about 250 quid each.
[932.6] NJ: They'll break them down, take all the good bits out,
[935.6] NJ: they can sell the nav systems, and blah, blah, blah,
[938.6] NJ: and the rest of it will just be scavenged, basically.
[940.6] NJ: But that particular one, the very last one that went out,
[944.6] NJ: I think, had 59 million miles on the clock.
[947.6] Tony: They never crashed.
[949.6] NJ: An idea of...
[952.6] NJ: Well, there has been 747 crashes, yeah.
[955.6] NJ: There was.
[957.6] Tony: I thought, I'll watch a documentary
[960.6] Tony: when they basically said it's been flying 35 years
[964.6] Tony: with no crashes.
[966.6] NJ: That's entirely possible.
[968.6] NJ: There's definitely been 747 crashes.
[971.6] Curry: Maybe that meant that particular 747s,
[974.6] Curry: which is quite typical, because after a 747 crashes,
[977.6] Curry: typically it doesn't fly anymore.
[979.6] NJ: Andy, are you thinking of the Tenerife one,
[981.6] NJ: because that was the worst one in history.
[983.6] Tony: The Tenerife one, but also the Lockerbie with the B1 in it.
[987.6] Tony: Well, that one didn't really do it on its own, did it?
[991.6] Tony: The Tenerife one was the worst ever crash ever, wasn't it?
[996.6] NJ: Still is.
[997.6] AndyRC: Was that the one into the sea?
[1000.6] AndyRC: No. Sorry, go on.
[1002.6] NJ: It was two that went...
[1004.6] NJ: It was basically a KLM flight and a Pan Am flight.
[1009.6] NJ: One was on the runway, getting ready to take off
[1011.6] NJ: and very low visibility.
[1012.6] NJ: The other one was coming into land.
[1015.6] NJ: There was some confusion.
[1017.6] NJ: I think someone pressed the radio combat
[1019.6] NJ: and talked over another person
[1021.6] NJ: in what is essentially a two-way communication back then.
[1026.6] NJ: A pilot who should have waited
[1028.6] NJ: just started this take-off role
[1030.6] NJ: and the other plane was coming in.
[1032.6] Tony: So a human error got the plane...
[1035.6] NJ: Nearly always this human error.
[1037.6] Tony: I was talking about plane design or whatever,
[1040.6] Tony: because I know that one of them,
[1042.6] Tony: one of them flew a Virgin plane, flew over a volcano
[1045.6] Tony: and literally all four engines had to be shut down
[1049.6] Tony: and they restarted each one and flew home.
[1053.6] NJ: Yeah, basically, it's essentially what's happening there
[1056.6] NJ: is it's turning into glass inside the engine
[1059.6] NJ: and then when you get to a lower altitude,
[1061.6] NJ: when it cools enough, it will shatter and fall off
[1063.6] NJ: and that's how they managed to relight them all.
[1066.6] NJ: But yeah, the volcanic ashes is generally bad news
[1069.6] NJ: to fly over, try and avoid.
[1072.6] Peter: Yeah, if not failed mechanically.
[1076.6] Peter: The editor would like to note that there have been at least
[1078.6] Peter: two 747 crashes with mechanical or electrical failure
[1081.6] Peter: on the list of causes.
[1082.6] Peter: On October 4th 1992, LL flight 1862 crashed into a residential area
[1087.6] Peter: shortly after take-off from Amsterdam Schippel Airport.
[1090.6] Peter: The two right side engines fell off due to metal fatigue
[1092.6] Peter: damaging the right wing.
[1093.6] Peter: The crash killed all three crew members
[1095.6] Peter: and the single passenger on board
[1096.6] Peter: as well as 39 people on the ground.
[1098.6] Peter: On July 17th 1996, TWA flight 800 was bound
[1102.6] Peter: for Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris
[1104.6] Peter: but exploded during its initial climb
[1106.6] Peter: from John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York.
[1108.6] Peter: A short circuit was caused when aging wire insulation failed
[1111.6] Peter: sending high-voltage current into the centre fuel tank.
[1114.6] Peter: All 230 people on board were killed.
[1116.6] Peter: The planned programming will now continue.
[1118.6] Peter: How many miles?
[1119.6] Tony: How many miles is that 747?
[1122.6] NJ: I think it was 59, there was two that left at the same time
[1125.6] NJ: for the final flight out.
[1126.6] NJ: One was 59 million, the other one was 39 million I think.
[1130.6] Tony: But over what, 30 years or 35 years?
[1133.6] Tony: What was it?
[1134.6] NJ: Yeah, a lot of them are built in the 70s.
[1136.6] NJ: They've got overhauls.
[1138.6] Tony: Yeah, they have big overhauls.
[1140.6] NJ: So it's not like it was built
[1142.6] NJ: and it's just done that all in a row.
[1144.6] NJ: They have a lot of revisions.
[1146.6] NJ: But these planes are like a fine wine.
[1149.6] NJ: They get better and better with age.
[1151.6] Tony: Yeah, I mean, they're still going to fly them, you know,
[1156.6] Tony: parrot and freight and stuff.
[1159.6] Tony: They're flying them in America.
[1161.6] AndyRC: A lot of the Virgin ones were leased
[1164.6] AndyRC: and they have gone back to America to be repainted.
[1167.6] AndyRC: So I think it's just because it's a small fleet
[1170.6] AndyRC: in the UK compared to America.
[1174.6] Tony: Such a lovely plane.
[1175.6] Tony: I always want to go on one and never ended up on one.
[1179.6] Tony: But never mind.
[1180.6] Tony: I love it in the 380 at the moment.
[1183.6] Tony: That's not very good at freight carrying.
[1185.6] Tony: Yeah, that one's good as well.
[1187.6] Tony: I know, I know.
[1189.6] Tony: All the big bloody, all the efficiencies
[1193.6] Tony: down to these longer planes with bigger engines.
[1197.6] AndyRC: And, you know, A350 can do double the range.
[1203.6] AndyRC: No, sorry.
[1204.6] AndyRC: It's 50% more efficient than the 747 or something like that.
[1210.6] Tony: It's a twin engine with a big engine.
[1212.6] Tony: It's like a little bit scarier,
[1215.6] Tony: only having less redundancy.
[1218.6] NJ: The whole reason that that kind of came to existence
[1221.6] NJ: is basically to do with moving transatlantic.
[1225.6] NJ: And initially, two engines wasn't enough to qualify as safe,
[1229.6] NJ: which is why you then had things like the Tristar come along,
[1232.6] NJ: which they just stuck an engine on the tail.
[1235.6] NJ: And then the 747 came along and then eventually,
[1238.6] NJ: later, once you found out the kind of odds
[1240.6] NJ: of losing both engines are quite insane,
[1243.6] NJ: they actually went back to saying twins fine.
[1245.6] NJ: And the twins are the most efficient, like the 777.
[1249.6] NJ: So even the biggest of planes moving forward
[1252.6] NJ: will be a twin engine design,
[1255.6] NJ: because cheap fares is what rules the aviation industry now.
[1260.6] Frank: But what's done for the A380 and the 747
[1263.6] Frank: is the death of the hub and spoke model, right?
[1265.6] Frank: As the engine jets have got longer and longer range,
[1269.6] Frank: now that they can fly from London to Australia,
[1272.6] Frank: it's, you know, why would you need to have a hub in Germany
[1277.6] Frank: and a hub in Dubai and a hub somewhere else
[1279.6] Frank: to be able to get there?
[1280.6] NJ: Absolutely. And it's been done as well.
[1282.6] NJ: Interestingly, the actual trend in jet design
[1285.6] NJ: or turbine design now is actually very high bypass air.
[1288.6] NJ: So the air that goes around the actual jet engine itself,
[1291.6] NJ: that's why these engines are getting so much bigger.
[1293.6] NJ: You've got your main turbine in the middle
[1295.6] NJ: and then the big fan at the top,
[1297.6] NJ: pump some of that into the turbine to keep it lit and spinning.
[1300.6] NJ: And then a large section of that outside of the turbine,
[1303.6] NJ: but inside of the cowling is what's called the bypass air.
[1306.6] NJ: That bit is getting bigger,
[1309.6] NJ: which means, yeah, they're getting super efficient,
[1312.6] NJ: high bypass, like the big general electrics
[1315.6] NJ: that are in the latest version of the 777,
[1318.6] NJ: which is the X model.
[1320.6] NJ: Again, even more bypass and even more efficient,
[1324.6] NJ: so, and quieter.
[1327.6] NJ: So, yeah, interesting.
[1329.6] AndyRC: The bigger engines make them very tricky to land
[1334.6] AndyRC: because of the aerodynamics at slow speeds.
[1338.6] AndyRC: Yeah, anyways.
[1340.6] NJ: That's why the wings are so clever
[1342.6] NJ: and they adapt so many different shapes,
[1344.6] NJ: just for exactly that kind of stuff.
[1346.6] Tony: Aren't the carbon fiber wings made in the UK as well?
[1351.6] NJ: I heard.
[1352.6] NJ: All the parts of all these planes
[1354.6] NJ: are all made in different parts of the world
[1357.6] NJ: and assembled in, I think, France, some of them.
[1360.6] Tony: Yeah, I think the UK make the carbon wings
[1363.6] Tony: on the 777s and the...
[1365.6] Tony: Oh, nice.
[1367.6] Jack: Yeah, enjoy.
[1368.6] Jack: How's your penis?
[1371.6] Tony: And he brings it back down.
[1373.6] Tony: There we go.
[1375.6] Tony: He's going well.
[1376.6] Tony: It wasn't trying, but it was still flying.
[1379.6] Frank: Look at that.
[1382.6] Tony: Just like that.
[1384.6] Frank: So, Jack, I hear that you've done something
[1387.6] Frank: with the stuff in the junk box, right?
[1390.6] Frank: Yes.
[1392.6] Frank: Would you like to present it to everybody?
[1394.6] Tony: Well, that's how he was getting on the thing.
[1396.6] Frank: Oh, I'd be afraid to touch it
[1398.6] Frank: in case it's a bit all off.
[1401.6] Frank: Hang on.
[1402.6] Frank: That would be more on brand for LDO, I think.
[1406.6] AndyRC: Back in the gut, don't you?
[1408.6] Jack: Close up.
[1409.6] Jack: I saw how many wheels we had in the box.
[1414.6] Jack: So, I built something with wheels.
[1417.6] Jack: This hasn't had its marking tape removed.
[1421.6] Jack: It's the first time I've ever painted a...
[1428.6] Jack: Fairly.
[1431.2] Jack: ...painted my best model.
[1433.2] Jack: That was quite interesting.
[1435.2] Jack: So much so, I got my friend to do it.
[1438.2] Jack: But, yes, I've built a mini-ginny,
[1440.2] Jack: and the whole idea of it is it's got a hatch
[1443.2] Jack: in the back of it, and I can fill it up
[1446.2] Jack: with the crap that was in the box of crap
[1449.2] Jack: and then drop it into a bin.
[1453.2] Curry: You had much more in your box than mine.
[1455.2] Curry: I didn't have any foam in those two nice motors,
[1458.2] Curry: and I expect there's a speed controller
[1460.2] Curry: and all sorts in there, isn't there?
[1462.2] Curry: Yeah, it's a bit weird to get on.
[1465.2] Tony: Oh, I don't know.
[1466.2] Tony: Why custard all British to the coast of your life?
[1469.2] Frank: I've got to say, the mini-ginny,
[1471.2] Frank: for anyone who doesn't know,
[1473.2] Frank: is the twin motor, cargo,
[1476.2] Frank: flight test, foam board,
[1479.2] Frank: cargo plane with the rear door
[1482.2] Frank: that dumps stuff out.
[1483.2] Frank: And Jack's built it,
[1485.2] Frank: and spray-painted it.
[1488.2] Frank: Yeah, kind of rhubarb and custard yellow.
[1491.2] Frank: Can I say something here?
[1493.2] NJ: Sorry, Jack, if you can hold that
[1495.2] NJ: just so it's straight and level in front of the camera.
[1498.2] NJ: That's it.
[1499.2] NJ: I've got to say, if you were to remove
[1501.2] NJ: the wings and the tail
[1502.2] NJ: and write Trotter's Independent Traders on Trotter,
[1505.2] NJ: it's exactly the right yellow.
[1508.2] Tony: It's exactly the right yellow.
[1510.2] Tony: It also looks suspiciously the same colour
[1512.2] Tony: as double yellow lines, Jack.
[1514.2] NJ: And I'm just wondering where you saw the pump,
[1516.2] AndyRC: John, carry on.
[1518.2] AndyRC: And the three wheels, look.
[1520.2] AndyRC: Hello, yeah.
[1522.2] AndyRC: I would say servos are the same,
[1525.2] AndyRC: but thank you, Frank.
[1527.2] Jack: And, you know,
[1529.2] Jack: I think it's a good idea,
[1531.2] Jack: because servos are the same,
[1533.2] Jack: but thank you, Frank.
[1535.2] Jack: And I couldn't actually fit the 22 motors in here.
[1542.2] Jack: So I had to get some...
[1545.2] Frank: You could have made it a trimotor
[1547.2] Frank: and stuck the big one on the middle,
[1549.2] Frank: or on the tail, like...
[1550.2] Frank: Tri-style.
[1551.2] Jack: Tri-style, yeah.
[1552.2] Jack: Well, that's what I was kind of thinking.
[1554.2] Frank: Maybe we could put...
[1556.2] Frank: A pusher.
[1558.2] Jack: The 18U, right?
[1560.2] Jack: Eat the...
[1562.2] Jack: I don't know.
[1563.2] Jack: I might make a small little box and cut it out.
[1566.2] Jack: But, yeah, so that's the whole idea.
[1568.2] Jack: And then I've got a...
[1569.2] Jack: I don't know whether anyone feels kind enough
[1571.2] Jack: to give me an extra servo from their box.
[1575.2] Jack: So that I can start that out.
[1578.2] Jack: Yeah.
[1579.2] NJ: Fraser's asking, does it actually fly?
[1582.2] NJ: Well, I think he just proved it.
[1583.2] NJ: That was it.
[1584.2] NJ: That was amazing.
[1585.2] NJ: That was it, yeah.
[1587.2] NJ: I've got to say, Jack,
[1588.2] NJ: that's pretty awesome, actually.
[1589.2] NJ: I think you've smashed it there.
[1590.2] NJ: That looks like it's going to properly fly in everything.
[1594.2] Frank: So, yeah, um...
[1597.2] Frank: Regardless, I'm signed in there.
[1600.2] Frank: No wing reflex.
[1601.2] Frank: No COG.
[1602.2] Frank: No money back.
[1603.2] Frank: No guarantee.
[1607.2] Jack: I'm going to write that on there.
[1609.2] Jack: I was thinking about being really f***ing getting,
[1612.2] Jack: like, my pilot ID thing,
[1614.2] Jack: like T-0-N-Y-1-5-G-4-Y,
[1622.2] Jack: you know, and, like, put in the...
[1625.2] Jack: No, don't do it.
[1627.2] Jack: ...drawing some wings.
[1629.2] NJ: Same with that number again.
[1631.2] NJ: I'll just write that down,
[1632.2] NJ: put it on the side of my trains, as well.
[1633.2] AndyRC: You really don't want to angiators.
[1636.2] AndyRC: It's got to do with these guys.
[1640.2] Jack: So, yeah.
[1641.2] Jack: But I might actually do that.
[1642.2] Jack: Trotters independent.
[1643.2] Jack: I don't know.
[1644.2] Jack: It was...
[1645.2] Jack: I don't know whether any of you were familiar with the...
[1648.2] Jack: back in the day flying at Hidden Valley,
[1651.2] Jack: but we got this friend called Simon,
[1653.2] Jack: who's a bit of a geezer from South London,
[1656.2] Jack: and he bought something called the Teleporter,
[1659.2] Jack: which I've still got the plans for.
[1661.2] Jack: But, um...
[1663.2] Jack: Essentially, like, I painted it the same colour as that Teleporter.
[1667.2] Jack: There's a video on my YouTube of me,
[1672.2] Jack: he was just doing, like, a figure of eight,
[1674.2] Jack: and we were just following it.
[1676.2] Jack: So...
[1678.2] Jack: That's about it, really.
[1680.2] Jack: I successfully got a working mon eagle
[1684.2] Jack: and got a refund from Mangard.
[1688.2] AndyRC: That's your monitor, was it?
[1691.2] Jack: My monitor's over there.
[1693.2] Jack: That's the other thing I've been up to.
[1695.2] Jack: But, yeah, I built...
[1696.2] Jack: I'd done it.
[1697.2] Jack: I built that with a friend.
[1699.2] Jack: And, yeah, I had a good time.
[1702.2] Jack: And, you know, I sprayed it and that.
[1705.2] Jack: I've...
[1706.2] Jack: Admittedly, I have got to finish it,
[1707.2] Jack: but please don't shout at me for not using fully.
[1711.2] Jack: But any of the wires and stuff like that
[1714.2] Jack: and the wheels and everything was all scavenged from the box.
[1717.2] Jack: And there's a servo from the box.
[1719.2] Jack: The only thing I might do is use the servo,
[1723.2] Jack: use the ESCs from...
[1725.2] Jack: The leftover ESCs from the potato...
[1728.2] Jack: No, the rat's nest.
[1730.2] Jack: If that's all right, Frank, because they won't actually...
[1735.2] Jack: Like, I nicked an ESC for the...
[1742.2] Jack: Oh, what's it called?
[1744.2] Jack: The Bixler.
[1745.2] Jack: So I nicked a 25 amp ESC for the Bixler
[1748.2] Jack: because Sheldon, but pirate 46, that NJ flies with,
[1753.2] Jack: nicked my ESC.
[1755.2] Jack: He stole one of my ESCs.
[1761.2] Jack: So the box of crap has been very useful,
[1765.2] Jack: but I don't think I'll be able to fit this.
[1769.2] Jack: I should have really built an ordinary size guinea, really,
[1773.2] Jack: but I'll be a mini guinea in the hope that once I'm done with it,
[1778.2] Jack: Frank might take it and adopt it.
[1784.2] Tony: Well, well done, Jack, for doing that,
[1786.2] Tony: because everything is still in my drawers.
[1789.2] Tony: But I just, I literally just got wheels and a raggy motor.
[1794.2] Tony: That's what everybody got.
[1796.2] AndyRC: I want to hear about Corey Kitten
[1798.2] AndyRC: and his strike that you've got today, please.
[1802.2] Jack: I think we should talk about Andy Aussie
[1806.2] Jack: and the fact that he didn't even build his own.
[1810.2] AndyRC: Look, let's not talk about that.
[1812.2] AndyRC: Andy gave all his to Phil.
[1815.2] AndyRC: I gave mine to my friend Phil
[1818.2] AndyRC: because he'll be able to do something much more interesting with it
[1821.2] AndyRC: because he got an EDF in there.
[1823.2] Tony: I think you won, Jack. I don't think anyone's done.
[1826.2] AndyRC: Well, Corey's been up to something, surely.
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[1856.2] Curry: I like to think that I entered into the spirit of this
[1860.2] Curry: much more than a certain shaggy head person up the top right of my screen there
[1864.2] Curry: because what I wanted to do is use only stuff in the box if I could.
[1869.2] Curry: Now, this is a problem.
[1870.2] Curry: We don't understate the fact that the box is actually full of absolute.
[1876.2] Curry: Now, there's lots of wheels.
[1879.2] Curry: If you're short on wheels, you're sorted.
[1882.2] Curry: If you want horrendous, greasy bits of lump of random metal, brilliant.
[1887.2] Curry: If you want actual components that work on RC vehicles,
[1890.2] Curry: you're a little bit stuffed.
[1892.2] Curry: But I took the two bits of relevant stuff,
[1897.2] Curry: which were some motor and a servo,
[1902.2] Curry: and I built what I call the f****** door.
[1907.2] Curry: What we have here...
[1913.2] Tony: Now, is this what you've got to strike?
[1918.2] Curry: Just to be clear, this is the actual box it came in.
[1924.2] Curry: Well, unlike Jack, who cheated and used foam board,
[1929.2] Curry: this is the box.
[1932.2] Curry: This is the motor, and that motor mount is mounted out of cardboard.
[1937.2] Curry: The best material we've got.
[1939.2] Curry: This is the prop that was in the box.
[1941.2] Curry: Look, it's still got the price on.
[1943.2] Curry: My box was full of motor mounts.
[1946.2] AndyRC: Yeah, well, the motor mounts didn't work.
[1949.2] Curry: And this is the servo down here.
[1951.2] Curry: So what I had... Here's all the wheels, loads of wheels.
[1954.2] Curry: So what I found, I had some bits of steel.
[1967.2] Curry: I couldn't even cut this, it was so hard.
[1970.2] Curry: So I had to wind it round.
[1972.2] Curry: You will see this is literally a piece of wound steel on a servo.
[1976.2] Curry: And this is my steering front wheel.
[1979.2] Curry: And it's driven by this awesome motor, which may or may not work on 3S.
[1984.2] Curry: And then I found crappy ESCs and receivers.
[1990.2] Tony: There you go.
[1991.2] NJ: I absolutely love it.
[1993.2] Tony: Did you start through it or tape it?
[1996.2] Curry: Nothing is soldered.
[1997.2] Curry: This is entirely held together by hot glue and tape.
[2001.2] Curry: And hope.
[2003.2] Curry: And hope.
[2004.2] Curry: I have a video.
[2005.2] Curry: What's best, YouTube video or sharing my screen?
[2008.2] Curry: I can prove it works.
[2010.2] NJ: Do you know what?
[2011.2] NJ: What I'm worried about here is that the same thing,
[2014.2] NJ: the same object that we're responsible for giving you a copyright strike on your own channel
[2019.2] NJ: has now infested and infiltrated the LDO channel.
[2023.2] NJ: We just post it to people that we want to demonetize.
[2026.2] Curry: YouTube doesn't like it when your video title is f***ed hard.
[2031.2] Curry: I said the link, didn't I?
[2039.2] Curry: This has been classed as adults only or something.
[2043.2] Curry: Here it is.
[2044.2] Tony: Look at that.
[2045.2] Tony: That's how it works.
[2046.2] Frank: This is very impressive.
[2048.2] Frank: For everyone listening along,
[2051.2] Frank: so this is about 150, 200 mil square of just a sandwich of cardboard.
[2057.2] Frank: And it's sitting on top of three great big tricycle wheels,
[2063.2] Frank: so with a steerable nose wheel.
[2066.2] Frank: It looks like it's got two ESCs on it,
[2070.2] Frank: but I can't like that one out.
[2073.2] Frank: And just got a load of electronics sitting on top of this pizza box of cardboard.
[2079.2] Frank: It's amazing.
[2081.2] Frank: A little mast on the back with a great big motor and prop on it.
[2086.2] Frank: It's blowing itself around curry.
[2090.2] Tony: I'm sorry, but curry kitten wind sounds down to it.
[2094.2] Tony: Literally everything on the box has actually made something.
[2100.2] Tony: It's actually pretty cool.
[2102.2] Tony: You know what?
[2104.2] NJ: This is brilliant.
[2106.2] NJ: I really want to do one of those,
[2109.2] NJ: you know those 80s overhyped toy commercials just for this thing?
[2114.2] NJ: That's what I want to do.
[2115.2] NJ: I want to make a commercial for this.
[2118.2] Tony: You know, flip over after crying.
[2126.2] Jack: You get some overexcited kids and be like,
[2129.2] Jack: oh, mommy, I really want a f****** card for Christmas.
[2132.2] Jack: Exactly.
[2134.2] Curry: I can show you it in dangerness now.
[2136.2] Curry: We've got front wheel steering.
[2139.2] AndyRC: Look at that.
[2140.2] AndyRC: I tell you what, you have got some turning circle on that way.
[2145.2] Curry: It's got power.
[2148.2] Curry: It will make mincemeat if you do things to people.
[2154.2] Curry: I'm not sure if this motor is rated for 3S.
[2156.2] Curry: I couldn't find any documentation, but I just plugged it in.
[2159.2] Curry: It hasn't blown off.
[2160.2] Curry: It's fine.
[2161.2] Curry: That's brilliant.
[2164.2] NJ: Well done.
[2165.2] NJ: Very good.
[2166.2] NJ: Thank you.
[2167.2] NJ: You've made it out of the box.
[2168.2] NJ: It's just genius.
[2169.2] NJ: What a masterstroke.
[2171.2] Curry: You have to open HD on it.
[2175.2] NJ: I reckon stick a couple of wings on that.
[2177.2] NJ: You see two other sides of the box and you never know.
[2180.2] Curry: It might fly.
[2181.2] Curry: It could happen, I suppose.
[2184.2] Tony: Hi, Wacky Wes from Hong Kong.
[2188.2] Tony: Hello.
[2190.2] Jack: I sent you some stickers.
[2192.2] Frank: FPV SE asks, when can I buy this from Banggood?
[2195.2] Frank: I'm assuming this is the prototype.
[2198.2] Curry: I'm sure it won't be long before they clone it and it's called it.
[2201.2] Frank: Yeah, exactly.
[2202.2] NJ: It'll be on the...
[2204.2] Curry: Half hour?
[2205.2] Curry: The E-Sheen 60 time or something.
[2207.2] NJ: Half hour.
[2213.2] NJ: That's genius.
[2214.2] Frank: Numskull suggests putting a parachute on it, so having it like a...
[2218.2] Frank: Yeah.
[2219.2] NJ: Para-motor.
[2220.2] Frank: Yeah, that's a great idea.
[2222.2] NJ: That might work.
[2223.2] NJ: I've got some Para-motor bags.
[2227.2] NJ: It's got to be on the same level of material.
[2229.2] NJ: Yeah, it will carry a bag.
[2231.2] NJ: Yeah, some sort of bin bag.
[2233.2] NJ: And it happens.
[2239.2] NJ: I think you need to pick a vendor.
[2241.2] NJ: Like, pick Tesco bags or Sainsbury's or, you know, Lidl, perhaps.
[2246.2] NJ: Lidl flight properties might be better than Tesco.
[2250.2] NJ: Yeah.
[2251.2] Jack: I got detained by the police for having a Sainsbury's bag.
[2255.2] Jack: So, clearly, that's...
[2258.2] Frank: Actually, to be fair, you can have it over Lidl's head, so, you know.
[2263.2] Tony: I'm dragging her inside your house at the time.
[2268.2] NJ: Do you know what?
[2269.2] NJ: Go for the Lidl bags and then when it flies, we can upgrade it to the Lidl card.
[2276.2] Curry: Well, put it this way, it's not like I'm going to take stuff off it
[2279.2] Curry: because I'm desperate to use the high quality stuff there.
[2283.2] Curry: So, there's nothing stopping me at some point putting a carrier bag on it
[2286.2] Curry: and just seeing what happens.
[2288.2] Curry: My only slight word of worry is that in order for it to go along,
[2292.2] Curry: I kind of need it on, like, a street, which could be a bit dodgy outside
[2297.2] Curry: when people see this death machine coming along.
[2300.2] Curry: But we'll see what happens.
[2305.2] Frank: Richard Warwick's got a good name for the banger clone.
[2309.2] Frank: The curry dog frame.
[2311.2] Tony: I know you can wait. I'm literally wetting myself in.
[2314.2] AndyRC: I'll be back in a minute.
[2317.2] AndyRC: My friend Phil, who made the dog poo bin fly,
[2321.2] AndyRC: has just texted me and it says,
[2323.2] AndyRC: I could learn a lot from curry kids.
[2328.2] NJ: So, there you go.
[2329.2] NJ: Can we say this is officially thinking inside the box?
[2334.2] Curry: It's not the first time I used a box.
[2336.2] Curry: When I had problems, I had the Buffalo FX 79,
[2340.2] Curry: great big wing that I got from Hobbyking,
[2344.2] Curry: and I had immense problems flying it.
[2346.2] Curry: Literally, I spent a long time building it
[2349.2] Curry: and I went out with my friend and he launched it.
[2351.2] Curry: It's literally this brilliant parabola curve
[2354.2] Curry: where it goes up, goes like that and blows apart.
[2357.2] Curry: And then the same thing happened again on the second flight.
[2360.2] Curry: And it's a long rebuild every time because the phone just went,
[2363.2] Curry: poof, exploded.
[2365.2] Curry: On the third time, we got it flying.
[2367.2] Curry: I was flying with another friend there
[2369.2] Curry: and we were using the MFD autopilot
[2371.2] Curry: and we were tuning that up, landed it.
[2373.2] Curry: I'm like, we're ready to go.
[2374.2] Curry: Let's have a proper flight.
[2375.2] Curry: And the MFD just went and all the servos started going crazy.
[2379.2] Curry: And I then decided I was going to make the box into a plane
[2383.2] Curry: and see if it would fly better, which it did.
[2389.2] Curry: What was that wing that Hobbyking, not Hobbyking,
[2392.2] Curry: Flight Test did.
[2393.2] Curry: I used one of their ones.
[2394.2] Curry: I think it was the Versa wing, so I flew that
[2397.2] Curry: and that was much more successful.
[2399.2] Curry: The only problem I had with it
[2401.2] Curry: was that if you use fully cardboard everywhere,
[2404.2] Curry: then your wing surfaces are a bit floppy, as I found out,
[2408.2] Curry: because it's like, you need to pull up a bit.
[2410.2] Curry: I was like, my stick's all the way back.
[2411.2] Curry: He's not pulling it up.
[2413.2] Curry: It's coming.
[2414.2] Curry: So that ending went like this.
[2415.2] Curry: But it worked.
[2417.2] Curry: Blown that.
[2418.2] Curry: Cardboard is underrated at the material.
[2424.2] Jack: Can't you stiffen it up with a bit of carbon fiber or glue
[2428.2] Jack: or something? I don't know.
[2430.2] Jack: Yeah, we could have done.
[2431.2] Curry: But by the end of that day of flying it,
[2434.2] Curry: we decided it would be best going out with a bit of a bang.
[2438.2] Curry: And I think it was nice and easy
[2441.2] Curry: because it just folded up and went into recycling bin
[2443.2] Curry: at the end of the day.
[2446.2] Curry: How convenient.
[2448.2] Curry: Exactly.
[2450.2] NJ: You know, if you make...
[2452.2] NJ: Sorry, I can't quite leave the subject to the f***ing card.
[2456.2] NJ: But...
[2457.2] AndyRC: Come on, take a sound bite of that.
[2461.2] Curry: I'm mostly called at that just to give the editor a bad day.
[2465.2] NJ: It's very rare that he's having to edit me out as well,
[2468.2] NJ: so good work on that.
[2471.2] NJ: I was thinking, well, if you just use little bags
[2474.2] NJ: for the parachute, then obviously people think
[2476.2] NJ: it's some kind of little drone delivery service.
[2482.2] NJ: Think of it, their Twitter will be lit.
[2484.2] NJ: You've got to do it.
[2485.2] Jack: Can you imagine if you do use it or something,
[2490.2] Jack: hemp of it, something awful happens
[2492.2] Jack: and it makes the local newspaper like,
[2494.2] Jack: weird man, like, you know,
[2498.2] Jack: injures OAP with homemade drone named f***tart.
[2508.2] Curry: Even better if they went with the angle.
[2510.2] Curry: He'll have like a bandage round his head
[2513.2] Curry: and be holding this up, pointing to his head,
[2515.2] Jack: saying I've been f***tarded.
[2520.2] Jack: Someone will like you crash into the biggest meathead.
[2524.2] Jack: And it will be like f***tart.
[2527.2] Jack: I think it's an insult.
[2528.2] NJ: Beat your heart out, Tom Stanton.
[2530.2] NJ: Oh, yeah, there you go.
[2533.2] NJ: You and your fancy engineering and your 3D printers.
[2536.2] NJ: Couldn't have done that, could you?
[2537.2] Curry: I don't need none of that.
[2538.2] Curry: Hot glue, a bit of tape, it's all good.
[2542.2] Curry: I was chowing my inner Tony with that tape,
[2544.2] Curry: just like stick it down.
[2545.2] Curry: It'd be fine.
[2546.2] Jack: It'd be all right, mate.
[2548.2] Jack: I'd just like to point out mine wasn't a speed build kit.
[2551.2] Jack: I got the plans.
[2552.2] Jack: I cut it out by hand.
[2554.2] Jack: I messed up the wing and then had to cut it out.
[2557.2] AndyRC: Jack, anything you say is not going to make a dent on this.
[2561.2] AndyRC: I know.
[2562.2] Jack: I'm afraid.
[2564.2] Jack: Do you name anything f***tard on this show?
[2567.2] NJ: You won.
[2572.2] NJ: On the technical level, Jack, you won,
[2574.2] NJ: but f***tards captured our hearts.
[2577.2] NJ: No, no.
[2578.2] NJ: It's the crowd favourite.
[2582.2] Jack: Everyone loves a f***tard.
[2586.2] Frank: I think it fits in very well with the sort of LDO aesthetic.
[2592.2] Frank: Very well.
[2594.2] Frank: And the principle of the competition.
[2597.2] Frank: Aesthetic.
[2598.2] Frank: Exactly.
[2599.2] NJ: Aesthetic, ethos, way of life.
[2605.2] AndyRC: It just hits a 10 in every category.
[2611.2] Jack: I love wind comics.
[2614.2] Jack: Someone contacts the CAA to report a drone with the number f***tard.
[2620.2] Jack: So that they can track it.
[2623.2] Jack: When will they let us, buddy?
[2625.2] Jack: You like choose our own...
[2628.2] Jack: No, you should be able to buy your own number, mate.
[2631.2] Frank: And it's your registration numbers.
[2633.2] Jack: Yeah.
[2636.2] Frank: Well, considering that you've got to have a new one every year for some reason.
[2641.2] Frank: I didn't know that, Andy. Is that true?
[2643.2] AndyRC: Yeah, yeah. That's why they're saying...
[2645.2] AndyRC: Put stickers on them now.
[2647.2] AndyRC: Oh, man, I've printed off a million of this.
[2650.2] AndyRC: Yeah, there's...
[2651.2] AndyRC: And there's Jack...
[2652.2] Tony: Jack's been etching his into his frames.
[2658.2] AndyRC: Jack's had a tattoo of his and everything.
[2660.2] Tony: What?
[2662.2] Tony: Oh, Jack, you didn't think that through, did you, Mike?
[2665.2] Jack: No, I've written in Charlie and everything.
[2669.2] Frank: It's all right. They're going to have to stop that because at some point,
[2671.2] Frank: they're going to get to the end of the Excel spreadsheet and then, you know,
[2673.2] Frank: they're not going to want to keep giving it more numbers.
[2675.2] Curry: As we all know, you can only have a million columns,
[2677.2] Curry: as we've now found out, in an Excel spreadsheet.
[2680.2] Frank: 16,453 or whatever it was. 2 to the 14.
[2684.2] Frank: What idiot?
[2686.2] Jack: I'm confident.
[2687.2] Jack: Frank, what did you make?
[2690.2] Frank: I didn't get a box. I sent you boxes.
[2694.2] Jack: Oh, I think we should combine all our boxes together of what's left.
[2698.2] Frank: Yeah, you can have all the left over.
[2701.2] Curry: He's having with a million wheels and oil.
[2704.2] Curry: It's like a load of exhaust pipes.
[2706.2] NJ: Have you seen Mr. Shady's comment?
[2708.2] NJ: Will it be going in the sim?
[2710.2] NJ: That's a brilliant idea.
[2712.2] NJ: Please put it in McCurry's bin.
[2715.2] Curry: It's nice to have a dog poo bin in there as well.
[2719.2] Curry: I said the dog poo bin can go in the sim if someone can draw me.
[2722.2] Curry: If I drew a dog poo bin, it would just look like a rectangular red cube,
[2726.2] Curry: which is not going to be that exciting and won't say NDRC on the side of it.
[2730.2] AndyRC: That would make no sense if you did that way.
[2733.2] AndyRC: People would not understand why that bin was in there.
[2737.2] Curry: I don't think many things make sense in it.
[2740.2] Curry: No, fair enough.
[2741.2] Curry: Desert floating in the middle of space.
[2743.2] Curry: Why are there buildings here?
[2745.2] AndyRC: It might be an interesting model name, though,
[2748.2] AndyRC: to have what you built in the sim.
[2750.2] AndyRC: You've got the plane, you've got the quad, then you've got the...
[2754.2] AndyRC: Yeah.
[2756.2] Jack: Told.
[2757.2] AndyRC: Yeah, I don't even want to say it because it's one of those things that...
[2761.2] AndyRC: You shouldn't really say it anyways now, but you're getting away with it.
[2765.2] AndyRC: Give it a yeah.
[2767.2] AndyRC: Yeah, great.
[2768.2] AndyRC: I mean, YouTube already gave you a strike for it.
[2771.2] AndyRC: That is dedication to the hobby on the show. Well done.
[2777.2] Curry: It wasn't the intended...
[2779.2] Curry: You know, I just...
[2780.2] Curry: It was what I called it in my editor,
[2782.2] Curry: so I didn't choose the name of that editor on YouTube.
[2785.2] Curry: And then YouTube sent me a nasty note saying,
[2789.2] Curry: we don't like your title here.
[2792.2] Curry: And yeah, they said your video has been age-restricted.
[2794.2] Curry: Your video, f***ing tired, was flagged to us for review.
[2799.2] Curry: Upon review, we've determined that it may not be suitable for all viewers,
[2803.2] Curry: and it may be placed behind an age restriction.
[2806.2] AndyRC: Yeah, that WAP video, no age restrictions, got 300 million views.
[2812.2] AndyRC: So that's, you know, that just shows you what YouTube's priorities are.
[2817.2] AndyRC: Doesn't it?
[2818.2] Curry: I would like to think that some actual person on YouTube has seen it
[2821.2] Curry: and said, this is not for people, but I don't think that's the case.
[2824.2] Curry: I don't...
[2825.2] Curry: Robots.
[2826.2] Curry: As far as I can tell, there's about four people work at YouTube worldwide.
[2829.2] Curry: The rest are just robots.
[2831.2] Curry: Yeah.
[2833.2] Frank: Tony, do you know if Phil's done anything with the box of crap yet?
[2837.2] AndyRC: He's got, oh man, that Phil has got just insane ideas
[2842.2] AndyRC: and I think he needs more time, basically.
[2845.2] AndyRC: I told him, like, there's no pressure to do anything with the stuff in the box,
[2850.2] AndyRC: but I gave it to him because, yeah, there's a lot of good stuff in that one,
[2853.2] AndyRC: EDF and that, and he's got some crazy ideas.
[2856.2] AndyRC: And I imagine, see, what Curry's done is just,
[2859.2] AndyRC: he's probably there now with scissors and all sorts of stuff.
[2863.2] AndyRC: But I gave Phil the box and within half a second he went,
[2868.2] AndyRC: this is Martin's.
[2870.2] AndyRC: So he knew where you had it from, which I thought was hilarious.
[2878.2] AndyRC: It just shows how small the world is as well, doesn't it?
[2883.2] AndyRC: Because apparently it was the price tags that gave it away.
[2887.2] AndyRC: And everything had an individual price tag,
[2889.2] AndyRC: and that was something that he specifically does and is known for.
[2893.2] AndyRC: And he was like, oh, that's cool.
[2895.2] AndyRC: Like price tags, that was Martin.
[2897.2] AndyRC: But I've told him there's no pressure because this has been a crazier for me.
[2902.2] AndyRC: And Phil has really, you know, dug me out of a hole issue as of you guys.
[2906.2] AndyRC: In the top, mate.
[2908.2] AndyRC: Phil needs his own channel.
[2909.2] AndyRC: I want to show you, keep that on there for a while.
[2912.2] AndyRC: Now I've told him, yeah, the thing about Phil is he has these crazy ideas.
[2916.2] AndyRC: He does them.
[2917.2] AndyRC: And then it goes nowhere.
[2919.2] AndyRC: He just does it for his own amusement.
[2921.2] AndyRC: And the fact that I've caught a couple of them on camera.
[2924.2] AndyRC: Are you laughing at this one, M.J., by many channels?
[2929.2] AndyRC: I am laughing at that one.
[2934.2] Frank: So what Mr. Shady has suggested is to use a f*** up as a wind block.
[2942.2] AndyRC: What, Mr. Shady, you want its own channel, do you think?
[2945.2] AndyRC: Either way, he's going to be a sticker.
[2948.2] NJ: The way that wind socks work means that they do actually have to be able to bend.
[2953.2] NJ: Yeah.
[2954.2] NJ: If that sock will not be f***ing windy, there's probably 50 knots everywhere.
[2965.2] Jack: I can't believe I'm doing this. Hang on.
[2968.2] AndyRC: Just make sure that you are always downwind when you use it, Jack.
[2975.2] Tony: This has been one of my favourite shows in a long, long time.
[2980.2] Curry: You've got an extra week to do stuff with your gubbins.
[2984.2] Curry: You could do all those wheels and combine it with your Inspire
[2988.2] Curry: and just take the Inspire for a drive.
[2990.2] AndyRC: OK, Andy.
[2992.2] AndyRC: I will try to do something.
[2994.2] AndyRC: I've got it official here.
[2996.2] AndyRC: I'll sort it proper.
[2998.2] AndyRC: I'll sort it proper.
[2999.2] AndyRC: I did think about doing the one hour challenge.
[3002.2] AndyRC: Phil, if you're watching this, do not put so much of your time into this.
[3007.2] AndyRC: Ross, he's got a lot to do anyways.
[3011.2] NJ: Well, there's quite the benchmark has been set in the revels, really.
[3017.2] Frank: Why is there smoke in front of Jack?
[3020.2] Curry: Jack is on fire.
[3022.2] Curry: No, it's fine.
[3024.2] Curry: It's not enough that he's doing a podcast.
[3028.2] Curry: He's got bored of that and is now doing some stuff.
[3031.2] Jack: I'm just trying to finish what the mini guinea.
[3037.2] Jack: Nothing to see here.
[3039.2] Frank: A circuit around your room.
[3042.2] Frank: You're not going to beat Currys, I'm afraid.
[3046.2] AndyRC: I think even that wouldn't have to be more.
[3049.2] Jack: It's a rank mountain in Germany.
[3051.2] Jack: Have you been FPV SE?
[3054.2] Jack: No.
[3055.2] Jack: Email Brian till I fly at gmail.com.
[3058.2] Jack: Drop us a pin.
[3066.2] NJ: Yet another bucket list location for Jack.
[3071.2] Curry: If my quad crashes in there, I'm not retrieving it.
[3074.2] Curry: It can stay there.
[3076.2] AndyRC: Bucket list is not the right word to use.
[3080.2] Jack: Careful you don't knock yourself out without a sock, Jack.
[3083.2] Jack: G-dog.
[3087.2] Jack: Is that G?
[3090.2] Jack: It's all G.
[3092.2] NJ: I think the difference between the first half and the back half of this podcast
[3097.2] NJ: just speaks volumes to the diversity of topic that we seem capable of covering.
[3104.2] Frank: This is why we have the show limited to an hour,
[3107.2] Frank: because, you know, there's a trend here.
[3111.2] Frank: But I think it's probably a good time to remind people about the show
[3116.2] Frank: that we're doing in a couple of weeks' time,
[3119.2] Frank: which is the FPV Horror Stories.
[3122.2] Frank: So if you have some FPV Horror Stories,
[3125.2] Frank: make sure to send them in to letsdroneoutatgmail.com.
[3128.2] Frank: We'll also be probably getting one or two guests on as well
[3133.2] Frank: to read out their FPV Horror Stories.
[3135.2] Frank: So if you're interested in that, let us know about that as well.
[3138.2] Frank: Yeah, so what we're looking for.
[3139.2] Frank: I mean, Jack gave us a little sample on one of the Patreon special episodes.
[3145.2] Frank: But of times where you've maybe tried to do something
[3151.2] Frank: and then realized that wasn't the right idea
[3154.2] Frank: because it ended up covering you in poo,
[3157.2] Frank: or maybe there's something where there was a very, very close call
[3162.2] Frank: and was a very glench buttocks moment.
[3166.2] Frank: So, I mean, Jack inspired it.
[3168.2] Frank: So there's lots of poo references.
[3171.2] Frank: But any time where kind of something's gone horribly wrong
[3176.2] Frank: or almost went horribly wrong,
[3179.2] Frank: or you've just decided that what seemed like a good idea at the time
[3183.2] Frank: is not a good idea, we want to hear about those.
[3188.2] Frank: And we'll try and either read them out or get you on the show to read it out.
[3193.2] Tony: Does it have to be about drones?
[3198.2] Frank: I think FPV, radio control, aviation,
[3203.2] Frank: something in that kind of vein is what we're looking for.
[3209.2] NJ: I don't think there'll be a shortage of material, personally.
[3212.2] NJ: I think it will be.
[3215.2] Frank: We want videos too, don't we?
[3220.2] Frank: But we preferably want to be able to read it in a way that kind of,
[3225.2] Frank: you can imagine the torch being held under your face around a campfire,
[3230.2] Frank: is what we're looking for, those kinds of stories.
[3235.2] Frank: So send them in to letstroneout.gmail.com
[3239.2] AndyRC: And pictures if you've got them.
[3244.2] Jack: Make sure as well, if you want someone to read it out,
[3249.2] Jack: make sure you write who you want to read out.
[3252.2] Tony: You, because you've got a bit of a weird voice tonight.
[3256.2] Tony: I don't know.
[3259.2] Tony: You sound a bit funny, Jack. Are you all right?
[3262.2] Tony: Yeah, I'm all right.
[3264.2] Tony: Hello, Tony.
[3266.2] Tony: See? You've got a sore throat or something?
[3270.2] Tony: No.
[3275.2] NJ: Any kind of cough that we should know?
[3278.2] Curry: I've got only now worked for the Corona Inquisition.
[3283.2] Frank: In other news, changing the subject quickly,
[3287.2] Frank: next week we will have Gail back on, Gail Orenstein.
[3294.2] Tony: Where's Gail from three years ago?
[3297.2] Frank: So she'll be telling us about the 32 countries
[3301.2] Frank: that she's been flying drones in in the intervening time,
[3304.2] Frank: but also she wants to get into FPV proper.
[3309.2] Frank: So she's been flying loads of, sort of, not DJI,
[3314.2] Frank: but the kind of aerial photography drones
[3320.2] Frank: and flying them around in humanitarian and disaster areas
[3324.2] Frank: and those sorts of places and getting them into interesting places
[3328.2] Frank: and using them for her journalism.
[3331.2] Frank: But now she's specifically seen some Johnny FPV videos
[3335.2] Frank: and has thought actually FPV looks like an interesting thing to get into.
[3340.2] Jack: Right, good laugh.
[3343.2] AndyRC: Did you guys see as well?
[3346.2] AndyRC: I really like the top gear with Paddy McGinnis and Freddy Flintoff
[3351.2] AndyRC: and I noticed there was a shot that must have been done
[3354.2] AndyRC: with either a Cinewoop or a freestyle drone.
[3357.2] AndyRC: Did any of you guys see that by any chance?
[3360.2] Frank: Yep, and I have reached out to the guy who did it.
[3363.2] Frank: No way!
[3365.2] Frank: I've sent him a Facebook friend request anyway
[3368.2] Frank: and I will invite him and see if he's up for coming on the show at some point.
[3372.2] AndyRC: I was like, oh man, this is like the start of, you know,
[3377.2] AndyRC: not the start because Johnny FPV's been doing it.
[3380.2] AndyRC: He's been putting some insane stuff up.
[3382.2] AndyRC: I don't know if you saw his balloon with the skydivers thing.
[3385.2] AndyRC: That was crazy.
[3386.2] AndyRC: You were on TV's four years ago.
[3389.2] AndyRC: You lot.
[3390.2] AndyRC: All right Tony, yes, we know.
[3392.2] AndyRC: Yes, Argos.
[3394.2] AndyRC: Did you have one of those PFCOs to do that to?
[3399.2] AndyRC: No, because I was finding the rules.
[3402.2] AndyRC: Indoors, right.
[3403.2] AndyRC: Is this inspire for flying indoors as well, is it?
[3406.2] Tony: Bit caving.
[3411.2] Tony: He was so nervous.
[3412.2] Tony: It can't be.
[3414.2] Tony: If your indoors is pretty big, yes.
[3417.2] Curry: But Tony, everyone's indoors because of the big globe that's over the floor.
[3422.2] Curry: So that's his excuse.
[3423.2] Curry: Exactly, that is my excuse.
[3425.2] Jack: Can you imagine winning a case course with that?
[3428.2] Jack: Being like, yeah, you can see a flat and, you know, there is no outdoors
[3433.2] Jack: and we're living in a simulation.
[3435.2] Jack: We're all under the dome, we're indoors.
[3438.2] AndyRC: Is that true?
[3439.2] AndyRC: Apple had Johnny FPV in their iPhone 12 video.
[3443.2] Jack: Yeah.
[3444.2] AndyRC: Yeah, apparently.
[3445.2] Curry: Yeah, I did keep seeing some screenshots of some drone with like
[3448.2] Curry: literally an Apple phone strapped to the front of it,
[3451.2] Curry: which seems a very odd choice of a camera.
[3453.2] AndyRC: Yeah, and no battery by looks of it.
[3456.2] AndyRC: That's a mega for FPV though, isn't it?
[3458.2] AndyRC: Mega for FPV.
[3461.2] AndyRC: It's going to be anyway.
[3462.2] AndyRC: It's going to be everywhere soon.
[3463.2] AndyRC: Why haven't we talked about any of this?
[3465.2] AndyRC: And we've just been talking about.
[3469.2] AndyRC: Come on.
[3471.2] Curry: Follow where the fun is.
[3472.2] Curry: Yeah.
[3474.2] Jack: Sure.
[3475.2] Jack: When it stops being fun, stop.
[3478.2] Jack: When the fun stops, stop.
[3480.2] AndyRC: Top Gear is dead.
[3481.2] AndyRC: I've been loving the.
[3484.2] AndyRC: I haven't watched Top Gear.
[3486.2] AndyRC: It's hilarious.
[3487.2] AndyRC: I mean, it's a different show,
[3489.2] AndyRC: but with Paddy McGinnis and Freddie.
[3492.2] Curry: I can't watch anything with Paddy McGinnis in,
[3495.2] Curry: so I couldn't even watch a clip of it.
[3497.2] AndyRC: Must be annoying.
[3499.2] Curry: Must be.
[3500.2] AndyRC: It's funny, man.
[3501.2] AndyRC: It's funny.
[3502.2] Jack: I like it.
[3503.2] Jack: The Irish with a name like that or is it in order?
[3505.2] AndyRC: No, it's from Bolton.
[3507.2] AndyRC: It's Peter Kay's best mate, Paddy McGinnis.
[3510.2] AndyRC: Peter Kay.
[3512.2] AndyRC: I really like it.
[3513.2] AndyRC: Give it a try.
[3514.2] AndyRC: Give it a try.
[3515.2] AndyRC: And there's drone footage in there.
[3517.2] AndyRC: They're using a lot.
[3519.2] Jack: I'm using a racing drone in.
[3521.2] Jack: If anyone's a fan of my car mods on YouTube,
[3525.2] Jack: like I am.
[3527.2] Jack: Australian lads.
[3529.2] Jack: Such a great channel.
[3530.2] Jack: I love my car mods.
[3531.2] Jack: So good.
[3532.2] Jack: Mad.
[3534.2] Jack: Yeah, I used to have a drift pig t-shirt
[3536.2] Jack: till I got too fat for it and spill car oil all over it.
[3540.2] Tony: We can send it now to me.
[3543.2] Jack: Why?
[3544.2] Tony: I'm sure I could use it as a night dress.
[3548.2] Jack: Okay, wifey.
[3550.2] AndyRC: Do you know anything about that, Jack?
[3552.2] Jack: What, the 390 on top of his?
[3555.2] Jack: I think that just...
[3557.2] Jack: Yeah, he bought it on my stream.
[3560.2] Jack: He did.
[3561.2] Jack: Crazy, man.
[3562.2] Curry: Well, that's what it was.
[3563.2] Curry: I couldn't work out what it exactly it was
[3565.2] Curry: it was trying to take off.
[3566.2] Curry: I could see the fan.
[3568.2] Curry: It's this thing.
[3569.2] Curry: That's the thing he kept...
[3571.2] Curry: If you watched Jack's stream for a while,
[3573.2] Curry: Tony had to phone up Jack and fill in
[3575.2] Curry: because Steel was so busy trying to buy that car,
[3577.2] Curry: which seemed really hard to get out of it.
[3579.2] Tony: I was watching the stream and I was like,
[3581.2] Tony: oh, I better call my husband.
[3583.2] Tony: He looks like he's panicking.
[3586.2] Jack: I know.
[3587.2] Jack: It really did ruffle me to the point.
[3591.2] Jack: I've had a load of trolly comments as well.
[3595.2] AndyRC: Well, welcome to YouTube, Jack.
[3598.2] AndyRC: Just wait till you get some lovely pictures on Facebook.
[3602.2] Jack: Mate, I love that, man.
[3603.2] Jack: That was so funny.
[3605.2] Jack: So you haven't got a problem with arming your court?
[3609.2] Curry: So far it's only you, though, and you've had two of them.
[3612.2] Jack: Yeah, I've had like four of them now.
[3615.2] Jack: That's why.
[3617.2] Jack: He's perfect for that.
[3619.2] Frank: But, yeah, Jack, if you will interview Steel on your channel,
[3625.2] Frank: then you should expect some more attention,
[3628.2] Frank: and therefore you feel as more attentive to trolls
[3632.2] Frank: is going to be more of that.
[3636.2] AndyRC: That's just us.
[3642.2] AndyRC: On one of Josh's streams, actually,
[3645.2] AndyRC: when Le Dribb came in the chat, everyone was like,
[3648.2] AndyRC: get an audio, get an audio.
[3650.2] AndyRC: So, yeah, he didn't reply to that.
[3656.2] Frank: Anyway, Jack, do you want to call us out?
[3661.2] Jack: I ask him and I say that Jack and Tony won't be on.
[3665.2] Jack: You can do what you want and see if it'll come on then.
[3669.2] Jack: No worries.
[3670.2] Jack: Thank you, guys.
[3671.2] Jack: Thank you so much.
[3672.2] Jack: You've been joined by tonight.
[3674.2] Jack: Andrew slash Frank.
[3675.2] Jack: Hi.
[3676.2] Jack: My little wifey.
[3679.2] Jack: Bonjour.
[3681.2] Jack: Everyone's favourite f****** card.
[3684.2] Jack: Goodbye.
[3686.2] Jack: The sexiest man in FPV.
[3688.2] Jack: Good evening.
[3690.2] Jack: The sexiest man in rock and roll.
[3694.2] Jack: That's MJ.
[3695.2] Jack: I'll take that one.
[3696.2] NJ: Bye-bye, guys.
[3698.2] Jack: And the worst person who built the crappiest thing out of the box
[3704.2] Jack: and still somehow lost.
[3706.2] Jack: Brian's a lot of life.
[3707.2] Jack: Thank you, guys.
[3709.2] Jack: You did nice.
[3710.2] Jack: I love it.
[3711.2] AndyRC: Telemetry lost.