=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 277 ===
Title: LDO 277 - Push the button (if you're not old like Tony)
Recorded: 2020-12-17
Hosts: Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Klaudyna "Kaja" "BlueOwl" Wrochna
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 2,097
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsEfubYEDHM); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/951101770-letsdroneout-ldo-277-push-the-button-if-youre-not-old-like-tony.mp3)
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[0.0] Curry: Welcome to Let's Drone Out, the original and best drone themed podcast.
[5.0] Curry: We record the show live on the Thursday night on youtube.com forward slash Let's Drone Out
[10.0] Curry: and our lovely patrons help with the editing costs.
[12.0] (Patrons): These are Wacky Wes, Mikey Dread, Art Faulkner, Carlos Campos.
[19.0] (Patrons): Thank you.
[51.42] Jack: Hello and welcome back to another episode for Let's Drone Out.
[57.42] Jack: Tonight you are joined by my little love vegan sausage.
[62.42] BlueOwl: Bonjour.
[66.7] Jack: And Andrew slash Frank.
[68.7] Frank: Good evening.
[70.7] Jack: The lovely and beautiful blue owl.
[74.7] BlueOwl: Hello.
[76.7] Jack: And my crime mystery solving partner, Kerry Kitten.
[82.7] Jack: Hello.
[85.46] Jack: I didn't know we'd do a musical interlude Tony.
[89.46] Jack: I'm the dirty sponge sniffing bright until I fly.
[93.46] Jack: You don't have a guest tonight.
[97.46] Jack: So it's going to be a general chit chat and hopefully blue owl will come back next week
[103.46] Jack: after what we really like and how drone information or.
[110.46] Curry: I will start off with an on topic question if I may.
[114.46] Curry: I saw this thing on Facebook where the BFMA claim that the rules are changing.
[120.46] Curry: But they've they only the BFMA have negotiated a special exclusion just for their members.
[127.46] Curry: But they really don't go into detail what they're doing and what's different about what they is.
[132.46] Curry: What they is what they're doing differently than like anybody else.
[135.46] Curry: Frank, do you know the detail?
[137.46] Curry: Could you be bothered to read it all?
[138.46] Frank: So it's a an exemption for the model flying associations of the UK.
[143.46] Frank: That includes BMFA, FDK, the large model associations and the Scottish era modeling associations.
[152.46] Frank: So there's those for associations, members of those associations get some extra exemptions.
[163.46] Frank: Kind of the one most interesting in terms of FPV is for FPV events.
[171.46] Frank: Basically saying where there's a sterile area, where there's an area where people can't get into and quads can't get out of.
[183.46] Frank: You can fly there up to a reduced height of I think it's about 50 feet without having to have a specific spotter for every individual pilot.
[195.46] Curry: This is essentially racing inside a netted area pretty much then.
[199.46] Frank: Yeah. I mean, I imagine that you could probably also say if you've got it fenced off and with an exclusion zone around it, you could probably do that as well.
[211.46] Frank: Basically, if you were flying at an event, a race event, then you wouldn't need a specific spotter for each person is how I've understood it.
[218.46] Frank: But I haven't read it in detail, so don't quote me on that.
[220.46] Frank: Read the thing that they've sent everyone.
[223.46] Curry: I couldn't be bothered. That's why we rely on you. Frank will read it and make us understand and then we will ignore it.
[230.46] Tony: And then we won't look at the spreadsheet and then keep asking him the same question over and over and over again.
[236.46] Tony: It's like I'm back at work.
[240.46] Frank: Sorry, Frank.
[242.46] Frank: But this is interesting.
[245.46] Frank: There's some actual actual exemptions there, which could be.
[250.46] Frank: Yeah, I think it probably is worth reading, but there was like four documents to read of a number of pages and I just couldn't be bothered when I'm not going to be flying.
[261.46] Frank: Probably before they've released the next set of some documents, so there's no point in me reading at the moment.
[268.46] Frank: So there we go.
[272.46] Curry: That's all I have for you.
[273.46] Curry: Karen, as you are, and as you know, always take your spotter with you, whatever that might be.
[279.46] Curry: Mine right now is an invisible elephant called Harvey.
[282.46] Tony: Mine's my dog.
[285.46] Jack: Mine's my dog with eyes drawn on it.
[292.46] Tony: Blue owl, what are you drinking?
[295.46] Tony: It looks like you have a bottle of champagne, but is it just beer?
[301.46] BlueOwl: That's, yeah, just beer.
[304.46] BlueOwl: It's not champagne.
[305.46] BlueOwl: Not yet.
[306.46] Tony: It's not that I have a couple of more days till Christmas.
[309.46] Tony: Are you going to have champagne at Christmas?
[311.46] BlueOwl: Yeah, of course.
[312.46] BlueOwl: So I'm actually traveling home this Saturday.
[316.46] BlueOwl: You're going to see yet another background probably next week.
[319.46] Tony: Oh yeah, because it's our Christmas next week, isn't it?
[322.46] Tony: Thursday, is it Christmas Eve Thursday?
[325.46] Tony: Yes.
[326.46] Tony: Oh my God, we're all going to have to be Christmas-y then for our next episode.
[331.46] Tony: Can we have snow in the background, Frank?
[333.46] Tony: Do you reckon you could do that?
[335.46] Frank: Maybe, I don't know.
[337.46] Frank: And then after that, we've got New Year's Eve is also a Thursday.
[342.46] Frank: So that's come well.
[343.46] Frank: Really?
[344.46] Jack: Do you want to have a go at trying to do what we talked about for New Year's Eve?
[350.46] Frank: I don't know, maybe.
[351.46] Frank: At the moment, I don't feel like doing much at all, but that's just because I've had a long day.
[356.46] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[359.46] Jack: I managed to get myself locked out of my bank account, and I got refused entry to the blood test place.
[371.46] Tony: Is it your rideable again?
[374.46] Curry: Well, the photos start hacking his bank account now.
[380.46] Frank: And spending all your money on different rooms is going to feel a little army.
[385.46] Frank: No.
[386.46] Frank: A bit like you're saying, Daniel from Aussie Test Flight, but it's all autonomous railroads.
[392.46] Frank: There's just going to be a swarm of them driving around, eating slugs.
[397.46] Tony: I've already enjoyed this video.
[401.46] Jack: I think the thing I'm struggling with the most today is that something that Tony said to me was they have the ability to turn you off.
[412.46] Jack: And what he means by that, hang on, let me let me just identify a minute.
[418.46] Jack: I need to get over there.
[420.46] Jack: This is tin foil time, everyone.
[425.46] Jack: Tinfoil Tony time.
[427.46] Jack: Let me just get a tin foil hat sticker so that anyone listening to this editor, if it turns out to be an absolute load of bullshit, please feel free to cut it out.
[439.46] Frank: And the whole program is just like the intro music and then a brief segment of us introducing ourselves, then saying goodbye and then the actual music telemetry.
[451.46] Tony: Some people don't like this and actually like it when we talk completely.
[457.46] Jack: This is tin foil time.
[459.46] Jack: I use the tin foil sticker to indicate the nutty rants that I have to deal with from Tony, the government.
[468.46] Tony: Oh God, I'm going to get a drink.
[471.46] Jack: The Earth flat, the Royal people.
[480.46] Curry: I particularly like the one where he decided he wasn't an anti-vaxxer, but you should only have one vaccine, not a booster.
[487.46] Curry: That's like half anti-vaxxer.
[490.46] Tony: I can't even remember saying that.
[492.46] Tony: Should I tell you the story about the wetsuit?
[499.46] Jack: But anyway, I literally have my bank account turned off.
[505.46] Jack: And yeah, that sucks.
[507.46] Curry: Wow.
[508.46] Curry: Why did they turn your bank account off?
[510.46] Curry: Did they decide you were wrong?
[512.46] Jack: What happened was I tried to spend money and they were like, whoa, hang on.
[519.46] Tony: He hasn't done that for a long time.
[522.46] Tony: What's with the white noise in the background?
[525.46] Jack: Who is that?
[526.46] Tony: I think it's blue ale.
[528.46] Jack: Are you like boiling seven kettles at the same time?
[534.46] BlueOwl: No, is it really that loud?
[536.46] BlueOwl: It could be my laptop.
[538.46] BlueOwl: Can you still hear it?
[541.46] Tony: That's better.
[543.46] BlueOwl: Okay, so I'll just stay away from you guys.
[547.46] BlueOwl: That's always worse.
[551.46] Tony: That does sound a lot better.
[554.46] BlueOwl: Yeah, anyway, if you'll continue.
[558.46] Curry: No, no.
[559.46] Curry: I hoppered in my garden.
[561.46] Curry: Does that count?
[563.46] Tony: No.
[564.46] Curry: Okay, then no.
[566.46] Tony: What?
[568.46] Tony: No.
[569.46] Tony: Frank?
[571.46] Tony: What?
[572.46] Tony: Do you have pride?
[574.46] Curry: No.
[576.46] Curry: Don't worry, because Tony's been out flying.
[579.46] Tony: I have actually gone out and been flying.
[583.46] Tony: What have you been out flying?
[586.46] (Patrons): Let me show you.
[587.46] (Patrons): Yes, again.
[591.22] Frank: Oh, that's a big one.
[593.22] Frank: Or is it just a small Tony?
[596.22] Curry: Both is probably true.
[598.22] Curry: Shut up.
[599.22] Tony: This is the fossil stuff, Tomahawk, which I've been flying and testing.
[606.22] Tony: I flew it the other day on Be Your Flight.
[610.22] Tony: And it was okay.
[612.22] Tony: It wasn't great.
[613.22] Tony: And then I got speaking to our friend that we had asked on the show a couple of weeks ago,
[620.22] Tony: film for Top Gear, Andrew Lawrence.
[622.22] Tony: And he said, why don't you try EmuFlight?
[627.22] Tony: So I put EmuFlight on it.
[628.22] Tony: It's got presets for 7-inch, 5-inch, and different presets.
[633.22] Tony: Anyway, I tried the 7-inch preset, and it flew so much better than Be Your Flight.
[639.22] Tony: I mean, I upped the PIDs quite a lot, but it was 10 times better than Be Your Flight.
[646.22] Tony: So Emu for the win at the moment.
[649.22] Tony: Has any of you guys tried EmuFlight at all?
[653.22] Curry: No, I keep meaning to do it.
[654.22] Curry: Does it still have GPS rescue?
[656.22] Curry: It does have that.
[658.22] Tony: I haven't put that on this quad yet, but I'm going to.
[663.22] Tony: I'm going to soon, but yeah.
[665.22] Curry: I've only got one 7-inch.
[666.22] Curry: I've got that.
[667.22] Curry: I'm just looking towards it.
[668.22] Curry: Just that Tyro 129 thing, which was the dodgy Ishin build.
[672.22] Curry: But it didn't fly bad, but I was keen to see if it could go better,
[676.22] Curry: because I stuffed a massive battery on that, a stupid size like 4S5200.
[682.22] Curry: Just like, just shove on there.
[683.22] Curry: Let's see what happens.
[684.22] Curry: And just to try and get more out of it.
[687.22] Curry: So how did your long flight time attempts go with it?
[692.22] Tony: 10 minutes, which is not a 6S2200, 2200.
[702.22] Curry: So not amazing.
[704.22] Curry: No.
[705.22] Curry: What else are you going to try?
[707.22] Tony: Well, I've got a few things I can try.
[709.22] Tony: I can get a 2700 because I think that'll fit without being ridiculous.
[714.22] Frank: More battery.
[716.22] Tony: Yes.
[717.22] Tony: More weight.
[718.22] Tony: I know.
[719.22] Tony: But I think there's a few things I can try.
[723.22] Tony: I'm going to try a 2700.
[726.22] Tony: And I've ordered dual blades instead of tri-blades.
[730.22] Tony: So that's another thing.
[731.22] Tony: But I know I'm going to have to retune it again by putting the dual blades on.
[738.22] Tony: And then we've got an, not using lipo, using, is it lithium ion?
[746.22] Tony: That could be the next thing.
[747.22] Tony: So there's three things I can try to get to the 15.
[753.22] Tony: I was so bored flying flying.
[755.22] Tony: I actually got cramp in my hand.
[757.22] Tony: 10 minutes flying was boring.
[760.22] Tony: Really boring.
[761.22] Tony: I got cramp because, you know, I'm pinching on this side.
[765.22] Tony: I'm like, thumb this finger and I pinch on the throttle.
[769.22] Tony: So I'm a bit of a hybrid.
[771.22] Tony: And I've got cramp.
[775.22] Tony: But apparently, 3.5-meter flight was the best.
[780.22] Tony: That is what my X-class flies on and quite a lot of my race quads
[785.22] Tony: when I flew the race quads.
[788.22] Tony: And then it all went downhill from there.
[791.22] Tony: Apparently, EMU flight is based around a beta flight when it was 3.5,
[798.22] Tony: when the filters were all good and it was flying really nice.
[801.22] Tony: So, yeah.
[804.22] Tony: I found it really so much better.
[808.22] Curry: So Fruity Cakes is saying he's getting 18 minutes on a 1600 for us.
[813.22] Curry: I don't know how.
[815.22] Curry: What are you doing?
[817.22] Curry: I'm getting 10 minutes from this with a 450 mAh success.
[825.22] Curry: It gets 10 minutes on this one.
[828.22] Tony: Do you carry an E-care and HD camera?
[831.22] Curry: No, it's tiny.
[833.22] Curry: But, yeah, I mean, there's obviously things to do, but it seems...
[838.22] Curry: One interesting question I had from that, and this is where Andy could be here
[843.22] Curry: because he'll always have stats on that.
[845.22] Curry: Is it better to go 4S or 6S on this, or doesn't it matter?
[849.22] Curry: Does it count about battery density, how much you can get?
[852.22] Curry: So can you shove a big 4S on and not use as much throttle?
[856.22] Curry: Well, suppose more throttle than 6S, or less amount of 6S,
[862.22] Curry: but you don't need as much throttle for the same RPM.
[866.22] Curry: What lasts more?
[867.22] Tony: Well, I made it on 4S and my throttle was at 60% to hover.
[873.22] Tony: And then as soon as I put the 6S on, it was, like, 45.
[877.22] Tony: So it was a bit better than that respect.
[881.22] Tony: But, I mean, I don't know.
[884.22] Tony: I spoke to Andrew, the Top Gear guy, today, and he said he's got a 7-inch in it.
[891.22] Tony: He felt the weight of this and was like,
[893.22] Tony: oh, this is really light compared to his 7-inch.
[897.22] Curry: Is that because he's got, like, a red epic camera on top of it or something?
[901.22] Tony: It could have been that.
[904.22] Tony: But I know 10 minutes is quite good, but I was hoping,
[910.22] Tony: well, I said 20 to 15.
[912.22] Tony: So there's still a bit of work to be done.
[916.22] Tony: But fuel blades, that could up it a lot.
[920.22] Tony: Fuel blades, different battery.
[922.22] Tony: Yeah, there's several things we can do.
[925.22] Tony: And I've still tuned it properly, so there's a bit of tuning in there.
[929.22] Tony: And if you've got the wrong tune, that can heat up your battery, as well.
[933.22] Frank: Also, how were you flying it? I mean, is...
[936.22] Tony: I was cruising, like, it's a cruising cord.
[939.22] Tony: It's, like, literally just cruise.
[942.22] Tony: Mind you, the cruise speed on it is quite quick.
[945.22] Tony: You know, it's, like, probably a 5S.
[948.22] Curry: You didn't have a blue hour camera angle, did you?
[950.22] Curry: Because if you think you're just cruising,
[952.22] Curry: you're actually going about 100 miles an hour. That's your problem.
[955.22] Tony: No.
[956.22] Tony: I mean, I'm getting a little bit of jello back from it,
[959.22] Tony: but it could be the captain's chair mount.
[963.22] Tony: I think that's what you called it, the captain's chair.
[965.22] Tony: It's up in here.
[967.22] Tony: Have you heard it called that before, or are you just making it up?
[970.22] Curry: No.
[971.22] Tony: Captain's seat.
[972.22] Tony: I haven't heard it.
[973.22] Tony: Captain's seat.
[974.22] Curry: Has it sat at the top?
[975.22] Tony: Yeah, sat on the top of the GoPro mount.
[978.22] Tony: So it could be getting a bit of jello from movement, I'm not sure.
[982.22] Curry: Oh, yeah, because you've mounted it on top of movable stuff, I guess.
[985.22] Curry: Maybe that's a bit of a...
[987.22] Tony: It could be that.
[988.22] Tony: But it sounded so much better than when I was running it on the beater flight.
[994.22] Tony: When I run it on the beater flight, you know, you get that wobble,
[998.22] Tony: that horrible wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha-wha,
[1000.22] Tony: when you fly in it.
[1001.22] Tony: That went away as soon as I put emu flight on.
[1005.22] Tony: So the filters and stuff were so much better.
[1009.22] Tony: So I'm going to fly emu flight from now on,
[1013.22] Tony: on most of my cords.
[1015.22] Tony: Apparently, you're really good on...
[1017.22] Tony: See, look, by blades, you get 18 minutes.
[1020.22] Tony: There's Andy...
[1021.22] Curry: It's Andy who declined to be on tonight, because he's busy.
[1024.22] Curry: He's saying we'll get you 18 minutes.
[1026.22] Curry: That's quite an upgrade from 10 minutes.
[1028.22] Tony: Well, this is a test I'm going to do.
[1030.22] Tony: So I've got some on order.
[1032.22] Tony: They should be here tomorrow or Saturday morning.
[1035.22] Tony: So that's next thing I'll do.
[1036.22] Tony: Keep the same battery.
[1038.22] Tony: But yeah, I really, really think if you're bored of beta flight
[1043.22] Tony: and think it's gone too far, try emu flight.
[1046.22] Tony: Because I got...
[1047.22] Tony: When beta flight got to four point whatever,
[1050.22] Tony: it seemed every time I put it on a cord, it seemed crap.
[1056.22] Tony: I don't know if anyone else found that at all.
[1059.22] Curry: I very rarely do anything with it now,
[1061.22] Curry: because I don't understand some of the things anymore.
[1064.22] Tony: It's all all right.
[1066.22] Tony: What else is there? Are we not in the news?
[1069.22] Tony: Well, FPV news, not a lot.
[1072.22] Jack: Yeah, pretty much.
[1074.22] Jack: Have people started receiving the Fat Shark digital stuff?
[1080.22] Jack: Have you seen any news stuff on that?
[1084.22] Curry: No videos about it.
[1085.22] Curry: The only thing we were chatting about before you got here
[1088.22] Curry: is Daniel RC Test Flight.
[1090.22] Curry: We were talking about his Rover
[1092.22] Curry: and his interesting mix of high tech and low tech.
[1096.22] Curry: Like just for extra battery power,
[1098.22] Curry: let's strap a couple of the old solar wings to the Rover to see how it goes.
[1102.22] Curry: We're enjoying his stuff, but we have approached him to come on
[1105.22] Curry: and we did not get a response.
[1107.22] Curry: He doesn't want to talk to us.
[1110.22] Curry: Very wise.
[1112.22] Curry: I think it's fair.
[1116.22] Tony: I'd like him to do the outro though.
[1120.22] Curry: Thanks for watching. Bye.
[1123.22] Jack: I know.
[1124.22] Jack: Yeah.
[1125.22] Jack: Has there been any more news update on the DJI thing?
[1129.22] Jack: I think it's called the Spark,
[1135.22] Jack: Ignite,
[1137.22] Jack: Flash in the pan,
[1139.22] Jack: Coughlage.
[1141.22] Tony: I saw something on Facebook, but I don't know.
[1144.22] Jack: It literally looks like a coffee maker.
[1148.22] Tony: Yeah, I'm not sure, man.
[1150.22] Tony: I haven't seen anything in any of it.
[1154.22] Jack: What's the old curry kitten?
[1156.22] Jack: I've noticed your Rush Blade Super 60 amp board.
[1160.22] Jack: How have you been getting on with that?
[1162.22] Curry: Clearly you haven't watched a review,
[1164.22] Curry: else you'd be saying what an interesting design they had
[1167.22] Curry: to put a big power filter board on the end of it
[1169.22] Curry: so it won't fit in your frame properly.
[1171.22] Jack: No, I could see that.
[1173.22] Jack: It's two great big caps that are tumors on the end of the board.
[1177.22] Curry: Two massive caps means it doesn't fit in quads.
[1180.22] Curry: So their stuff is generally really good.
[1184.22] Curry: I really do like Rush FPV.
[1187.22] Curry: Their VTXs are awesome.
[1189.22] Curry: The flight controller was really nice.
[1191.22] Curry: It was also encased in an aluminium shell,
[1194.22] Curry: so there's no electronics.
[1196.22] Curry: Each of the solder pads is all on the outside.
[1199.22] Curry: None of this inside horribleness.
[1201.22] Curry: Nice and easy to solder.
[1203.22] Curry: They give you about 50 leads so you can plug it in.
[1207.22] Curry: It's generally the same as ESC,
[1209.22] Curry: and then they gave you this power board.
[1212.22] Curry: All I can suggest is they produced all this
[1215.22] Curry: and then put it together and said,
[1216.22] Curry: oh, we've got noise.
[1217.22] Curry: Quick, produce something to fix it.
[1219.22] Curry: And their fix has stopped fitting into frames
[1222.22] Curry: because it sticks out in the back
[1224.22] Curry: exactly where all the standoffs would go.
[1227.22] Curry: So that's a problem.
[1229.22] Jack: Could you desolder them and add normal caps
[1232.22] Jack: but have them flopped over?
[1235.22] Curry: But I was following what their recommendation was
[1241.22] Curry: because I always do that to start with.
[1243.22] Curry: It's like, this is what they've asked to do.
[1246.22] Curry: I don't know why they won't just have one big cap coming out
[1249.22] Curry: of the power wire connector like loads of other people do.
[1254.22] Curry: Perhaps Caroline's saying,
[1256.22] Curry: designed to make you buy their frame.
[1258.22] Curry: So far, it fits in one frame.
[1260.22] Curry: I can't believe they're short-sighted enough to say,
[1263.22] Curry: don't worry, everyone will just buy this frame
[1265.22] Curry: if they want to see a seaboard.
[1266.22] Curry: That doesn't seem like what they're going to do.
[1269.22] Curry: I don't know what's going on.
[1270.22] Curry: Hopefully, they'll fix it.
[1272.22] Curry: But it seemed to fly very smoothly
[1275.22] Curry: as far as hovering in my garden goes.
[1278.22] Curry: Didn't have a particularly useful flight.
[1280.22] Curry: Had a very short FPV flight
[1281.22] Curry: where I'm looking at a screen like this,
[1283.22] Curry: trying not to hit my fence.
[1285.22] Curry: That was about it, really.
[1288.22] Tony: I'm really impressed with the member,
[1290.22] Tony: the member combo that I put in my,
[1293.22] Tony: the F7 in this seven inch.
[1296.22] Tony: Really, really good.
[1297.22] Tony: And it had a physical button to put it into DFU mode.
[1303.22] Tony: So you didn't have to join two solder pads together
[1306.22] Tony: and all that.
[1307.22] Tony: You literally press a button in to get it into DFU mode,
[1311.22] Tony: which I found fantastic.
[1313.22] Curry: That has been my case for about four years now.
[1317.22] Curry: Yeah.
[1318.22] Tony: All the flight controllers I've had in the last couple of years
[1321.22] Tony: have literally had to bridge...
[1323.22] Curry: Was your last flight controller, literally,
[1325.22] Curry: a Naze 32 Rev5 or something?
[1329.22] Jack: All the boot buttons.
[1330.22] Jack: What were you on about?
[1332.22] Tony: We had to bridge.
[1333.22] Tony: Every time I've had to put something in DFU on any of my quarters,
[1337.22] Tony: bridge this, bridge that.
[1340.22] Tony: Anyway, that was originally...
[1342.22] Jack: You actually got dementia.
[1344.22] Tony: People...
[1346.22] Curry: We're all saying boot buttons exist all the time.
[1350.22] Curry: Anybody in the chat can think of a flight controller recently.
[1354.22] Curry: We've had to take like a paperclip or whatever
[1356.22] Curry: and try and bridge two contacts, put it in DFU mode.
[1359.22] Curry: Please let us know.
[1361.22] Curry: We think Tony's lost a couple of years here to doing it.
[1364.22] Jack: Yeah.
[1365.22] Jack: Well, maybe I haven't done that.
[1367.22] Jack: In the TLI, what were you on about?
[1369.22] Jack: You demented OAP.
[1372.22] Tony: That and you just literally put the lead into...
[1378.22] Tony: from the ESC straight into the flight controller.
[1381.22] Tony: Brilliant.
[1382.22] Tony: And then the lead from the DJI cam straight into the flight controller.
[1386.22] Tony: Well good.
[1387.22] Jack: Blavao, were you going to say something?
[1389.22] Jack: You unmuted yourself.
[1391.22] BlueOwl: Yeah, I unmuted myself so that he could check my sound.
[1396.22] Jack: Very, very good.
[1397.22] BlueOwl: But yeah, it's true.
[1399.22] BlueOwl: I remember bridging the little two pins to enter the boot mode.
[1405.22] BlueOwl: The bootloader mode.
[1406.22] BlueOwl: But that was like three, four years ago.
[1410.22] BlueOwl: What's that?
[1411.22] Tony: Just fucking come on, be on my side.
[1414.22] Tony: Sorry, Tony.
[1415.22] Tony: I'm going with the guys.
[1417.22] Tony: All right, I'm going to leave.
[1419.22] Curry: I am.
[1420.22] Curry: I can't help you.
[1421.22] Curry: I've got one.
[1422.22] Curry: Look, and you notice it says Afro Flight 32 on it.
[1426.22] Curry: That's how long ago you had to get before you had to hold pins down and boot things.
[1431.22] Jack: The SPF3 was boot as well.
[1435.22] Jack: Join, I think.
[1438.22] Jack: Yeah, it was.
[1439.22] Jack: That didn't have a boot button.
[1442.22] BlueOwl: Oh no, Tony, come back.
[1444.22] BlueOwl: I think you've got a man and left.
[1447.22] Jack: He's used to it.
[1448.22] Jack: He's just been a diva.
[1450.22] Jack: Or failing that, Danny's gnawed his way out or something.
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[1483.22] Jack: Are you crazy done now?
[1484.22] Jack: Are you all right?
[1486.22] (Patrons): Yeah, I'm fine.
[1487.22] Jack: When you own this, they have boot buttons.
[1489.22] Jack: That is the FU boot buttons.
[1492.22] Tony: Are we still going to carry on this effect?
[1499.22] Jack: No, I just, I'm concerned about your health.
[1503.22] Jack: Can you wash your hands after soldering with lead solder?
[1507.22] Jack: Tony doesn't solder.
[1508.22] Tony: I use chewing gum, idiot.
[1512.22] Frank: Tony, instead of using the button,
[1515.22] Frank: just picking the button away and then just shorting the buttons out.
[1519.22] Curry: I can't find that.
[1520.22] Curry: I can't get to the patio.
[1522.22] Curry: Let me take this button thing off so I can get my team.
[1530.22] Tony: Look, Tweezers did the job.
[1532.22] Tony: Yeah, exactly.
[1533.22] Tony: I used to use Tweezers.
[1534.22] Curry: Martin's the only person we can think of that's older than you at this point.
[1537.22] Curry: So I don't trust his opinion.
[1539.22] Tony: There is you carrying it in.
[1541.22] Curry: Yeah, but you wouldn't think of it right now.
[1544.22] Curry: Who's the one stuck back in time?
[1546.22] Tony: Maybe I haven't brought it flight controller for that long.
[1549.22] Jack: You know what I mean?
[1551.22] Jack: Mateks have boot buttons as well.
[1553.22] Tony: Not their ones.
[1555.22] Tony: Well, they might have all snapped off while I was waiting.
[1558.22] Tony: I didn't really like it.
[1560.22] Jack: You may never know whatever have boot buttons.
[1563.22] Frank: Mr. Shady has a sensible question.
[1566.56] Frank: How much can a tiny 7-inch weigh?
[1568.56] Frank: Mine comes in at 425 grams without battery or GoPro.
[1573.56] Tony: Let me go and get my scales.
[1576.56] Jack: I'll be back.
[1586.22] Frank: If you pick up a number, it's 50 meters that you could fly in a scale area under a race event.
[1594.22] Frank: It's 160 feet.
[1596.22] Frank: We've got the unit fixed up.
[1598.22] Frank: Hang on.
[1600.5] Jack: Let me just jam my screen, right?
[1602.5] Jack: I know he owns one of these.
[1605.5] Jack: That is a boot button.
[1608.5] Curry: Maybe he's confused about what the button does.
[1612.94] Frank: It's me too.
[1614.94] Frank: No problem.
[1615.94] Frank: He's trying to turn his quad on.
[1617.94] Curry: It's just not what happened.
[1619.94] Jack: It's just a power button.
[1621.94] Jack: That also is a boot button up there.
[1625.94] Jack: I mean, it's dangerously close to these power bits, but that too.
[1629.94] Tony: Of course.
[1630.94] Tony: It's miles away.
[1631.94] Tony: Are you still going?
[1632.94] Tony: I'm going back again.
[1634.94] Jack: What are the flight controllers have you got?
[1639.94] Frank: No, he's done.
[1641.94] Frank: He's had enough.
[1644.94] Jack: I'm literally just trying to figure it out.
[1647.94] Jack: Please.
[1648.94] Jack: I'm done mocking you.
[1650.94] Jack: I'm just...
[1652.94] Tony: I don't know.
[1653.94] Tony: I bought a job lot.
[1654.94] Tony: 531 grams.
[1657.94] Curry: I weigh mine as well, just for measure.
[1659.94] Curry: This is a crappy seven-inch quad.
[1661.94] Tony: There's props on and a DJI A unit.
[1665.94] Curry: 531.
[1666.94] Frank: Now we go live to curry.
[1668.94] Frank: Time to turn on his scales.
[1671.94] Curry: They turn on.
[1672.94] Curry: They just won't zero.
[1673.94] Curry: Right, here we go.
[1674.94] BlueOwl: But is there a button or do you have to short two pads to turn it on?
[1677.94] Curry: After I'm going wrong, I'm pressing a button.
[1680.94] Curry: 394.
[1683.94] Curry: Oh my God.
[1684.94] Curry: The turbo on 129 ways.
[1687.94] Jack: She fits right in.
[1689.94] Jack: I was worried.
[1690.94] Jack: I worried that you just started mocking all of us.
[1694.94] Jack: It's fantastic.
[1696.94] Jack: It's like she's always been here.
[1700.94] BlueOwl: I just figured I have to give you some time so that you don't get scared too early.
[1707.94] BlueOwl: You don't kick me out too soon.
[1711.94] Jack: I do dumb stuff at the time.
[1715.94] Frank: Jack standing there with his band hammer,
[1717.94] Frank: ready and waiting, watching all of them.
[1719.94] Tony: I do dumb stuff all the time.
[1721.94] Tony: He's got a sheep on his swimming mic and a dog thing in his background.
[1725.94] Jack: I'm just a bear who lives in a cave that just gets poo everywhere.
[1732.94] Frank: Face bear 3D.
[1734.94] Jack: I know, yeah, basically.
[1737.94] Jack: I loved Andy RC's Dave video where they've been playing around with a lot of head tracking.
[1747.94] Jack: Andy RC and his favourite anonymous man servant Phil.
[1755.57] Curry: You know the thing that got me most about that video,
[1758.57] Curry: and this is for our older viewers who are around at mine or Tony's age,
[1763.57] Curry: is how crap an action man is these days.
[1766.57] Curry: I had one as a kid.
[1768.57] Curry: They had articulation here, here, on the wrist.
[1770.57] Curry: They had fingers that would do that.
[1772.57] Curry: They had eagle eyes so you could move the eyes around.
[1775.57] Curry: It's just like a bad sextal.
[1778.57] Curry: It's just like that.
[1780.57] Curry: It's absolutely stiff and doesn't move.
[1782.57] Curry: No wonder he has to cut it up to make it work.
[1785.57] Curry: Action man, gone way down.
[1787.57] Jack: No, you get your battery voltage in your goggles.
[1790.57] Curry: Have I actually got the lightest 7-inch, although I've not got a GoPro on it?
[1798.57] Curry: Have he sheen accidentally made a light 7-inch without knowing about it?
[1804.57] Tony: Maybe.
[1806.57] Tony: I don't know.
[1808.57] Jack: Flight tester figured out you can fiberglass foam board, by the way.
[1814.57] Jack: Frank, have you seen that?
[1817.57] Frank: I think Fraser in the chat has been doing some things along those lines for a while.
[1823.57] Frank: Who?
[1825.57] Frank: Fraser in the chat, Fraser's team.
[1827.57] Jack: Oh, Monroe, Monroe.
[1831.01] Tony: Can you turn your washing machine off, please?
[1835.01] BlueOwl: It's still going? Okay.
[1837.01] BlueOwl: I'll turn it off. I'll just shut up. You guys keep talking.
[1842.01] Curry: This is what happens when you're throwing out the Christmas room.
[1845.01] Curry: The computer works against you. He wants to be back there.
[1848.01] BlueOwl: Yeah, unfortunately, the mic is stupidly close to the fan on this laptop, and it's an old laptop, so...
[1855.01] Jack: Have you got any ice packs to help cool the laptop down?
[1860.01] BlueOwl: No, I don't think it's going to help. I think nothing's going to help. It's too old.
[1865.01] Jack: You could call it by just pouring water directly onto it.
[1869.01] BlueOwl: Okay, let me try it. You reckon that beer will work?
[1875.01] Curry: It's a waste of beer, but it might work.
[1878.01] BlueOwl: Yeah, that's true. That's what I'm asking before I do it.
[1883.01] Frank: Where were you? Was it...? Oh, no. I can't remember. No.
[1888.01] Curry: Now Frank's gone as well. Where's the dementia?
[1891.01] Tony: Oh, that's a place to venture.
[1893.01] Tony: If I have to have the dementia thing come up, you have.
[1897.01] Jack: Yeah!
[1900.01] Jack: Frank, what is it you were thinking about?
[1905.01] Frank: About a beer cheaper than water, that I'm sure we were talking about when Dua was first done.
[1912.01] Tony: Yep, Czech Republic in Czech.
[1915.01] BlueOwl: That is true. I confirm. I check it every time.
[1920.01] BlueOwl: The beer is cheaper than bottled water in the shops in Czech Republic, so beautiful country to live in.
[1928.01] Jack: You're just like, oh, they've made the decision for me. I've got no choice to be, but be drunk.
[1934.01] BlueOwl: That was basically my, you know, decision-making process.
[1941.01] Frank: The financially responsible thing to do is to drink lots of beer.
[1947.01] BlueOwl: Literally, stay hydrated, folks.
[1951.01] Tony: That's brilliant. I think I might move there.
[1955.01] Jack: Jack's Pro Tech Tips, Tailspin.
[1961.01] Jack: My personal favourite is, if Tony has something that's dismantled, broken, completely dismantled it, violate that warranty as hard as you can.
[1975.01] Tony: No, warranty has gone, but you fixed it, to be fair.
[1981.01] Tony: Have you got your package that I've sent you?
[1984.01] Jack: No, no.
[1986.01] Tony: Well, it might be slow because of the time of year.
[1990.01] Jack: Yeah, no worries, mate. It's all good.
[1993.01] Jack: I've just got, I don't even know what happened to that VTX anyway.
[1997.01] Jack: I'll probably just have to buy another VTX. It's completely lost.
[2002.01] Jack: I don't, I've been sorting out, I've been writing my Christmas cards and that.
[2007.01] Tony: I don't do cards. My mum really likes Christmas cards and I just like, I might do my mum one, but I just can't send Christmas cards.
[2018.01] Tony: I don't know. Even birthday cards and stuff. I just don't, I don't like receiving them. I don't like giving them.
[2026.01] Frank: Well, I just had it here, folks.
[2028.01] Frank: Everyone's sent Tony a Christmas card.
[2030.01] Frank: Please don't.
[2031.01] Jack: He leaked his address on Instagram.
[2035.01] Tony: I've got nothing through the post, so it didn't, it didn't last so long. It didn't last long.
[2043.01] Jack: If you need Tony's address, just message me and I will share a screenshot.
[2050.01] Frank: You know how they say services where you can buy like a hundred likes on YouTube for like 50p or something.
[2057.01] Jack: Is there like a Christmas card version?
[2059.01] Jack: Yeah, I've sent you a Christmas card, Tony.
[2063.01] Tony: What, this year?
[2064.01] Jack: Yeah, mum. I posted it. Yeah, you should get it tomorrow.
[2069.01] Jack: It says, do my darling wife.
[2073.01] Tony: Probably words.
[2074.01] Tony: You know, I've got, I think I kept your one from last year.
[2077.01] Tony: You know, when you get, see, this is what I mean about Christmas cards.
[2081.01] Tony: You get ones that are sentimental to you and you can't rip up, but then there's ones from Long Lost Aunties and Uncles.
[2088.01] Tony: You just go, put it out in the recycling.
[2090.01] Tony: And then you get one what says to my darling wife from your husband and stuff.
[2096.01] Tony: I can't rip that one off and put it in the right recycling.
[2100.01] Jack: I spoke to my mum late last night and I think she's slightly convinced I am actually a homosexual.
[2110.01] Jack: My significant other.
[2112.01] Jack: So that's going to be an interesting Christmas conversation around the table.
[2117.01] Tony: It's like, what's going on? What are you talking about?
[2121.01] Jack: So, Lily, if you wouldn't mind, would you mind, you know, coming back and being my beard?
[2129.01] Tony: I'm definitely not that way inclined.
[2134.01] Jack: I'm going to have a little look through my saved pages and stuff about topics that we can talk about.
[2143.01] Frank: The only thing is Richard was saying about the noise of seven inch byblades.
[2152.01] Frank: How's on the scale of, yeah, the scale of a gravity to a Thor.
[2159.01] Frank: Where's the Tomahawks at?
[2163.01] Tony: In the middle, in the middle.
[2166.01] Tony: I do like by by by by by by I can't even talk.
[2171.01] Tony: I used to I used to have them on my I used to put them on my five inch.
[2176.01] Tony: Do you remember I used to fly my five inch fossil twenty six hundred KV on five S.
[2185.01] Tony: That used to make a great sound on my plane back in the day.
[2191.01] Tony: But yeah, I don't know. Hopefully it'll make a nice sound.
[2194.01] Tony: I just want the longer flight time, really.
[2198.64] Tony: That's what we're looking for.
[2200.64] Tony: I thought you're saying that you can't even last 10 minutes.
[2203.64] Frank: Got no stamina.
[2205.64] Curry: That's not what he said.
[2207.64] Curry: The old man hands aren't working off the 10 minutes.
[2219.64] Curry: Just a little bit of arthritis in that claw hand and that one stick.
[2223.64] Jack: I've got this right.
[2225.64] Jack: And it says is quad noss legal in a race.
[2230.64] Jack: So you've got like this little post and it shows people freezing their motors.
[2235.64] Jack: Yeah, they freeze motor and you've got like cryo spray.
[2239.64] Tony: This is quite interesting.
[2241.64] Jack: Yeah, it's got from from a company called KO Technologies.
[2245.64] Jack: Cryo has landed USA Europe and Australia now has cryo spray on the ground.
[2251.64] Jack: On your KO motor, if your motor has the cryo logo and spray and the black stator,
[2261.64] Jack: your motor is fully compatible with cryo spray, spray the point nozzle into the windings
[2266.64] Jack: and give a short three to four second burst on all four motors.
[2270.64] Jack: Then repeat one more time for max effect.
[2273.64] Jack: So what it shows is like this motor and it's all frosted up like how you'd get from,
[2279.64] Jack: like, a liquid canister of like, say, nitrogen.
[2287.64] Jack: And when you release the pressure, it frosts up.
[2290.64] Jack: Is that right, Frank?
[2291.64] Jack: Is that how you describe it?
[2293.64] Tony: That's how you used to break locks.
[2296.64] Jack: You're not, Frank.
[2299.64] Curry: Why is this?
[2302.4] Curry: Why is this a thing, Frank?
[2304.4] Frank: I imagine it's about reducing the temperature to reduce the resistance of the coils
[2310.4] Frank: because that's where the kind of the main losses is in the current that you've got producing the torque in the motor.
[2318.4] Frank: The actual losses are going to be down to the resistance.
[2322.4] Frank: And I imagine the idea is that by reducing the temperature, you're reducing the resistance
[2327.4] Frank: and therefore I squared R, you're reducing the power loss, I imagine.
[2333.4] Curry: Does this further balance of the motor off potentially?
[2336.4] Curry: You've got ice crystals sticking all over the place.
[2339.4] Frank: Yeah, I think the ice crystals is probably not a good idea, I think.
[2342.4] Jack: Oh, you know, it's waterproof.
[2346.4] Frank: Wow.
[2347.4] Frank: Yeah, I mean, I think it will survive, but it seems like a bad idea.
[2352.4] Frank: Like, you generally want to avoid condensation and they're getting it so cold that it's not condensing, but it's also freezing.
[2362.4] Frank: It seems like a bad idea.
[2364.4] Frank: Gimme a key.
[2366.4] Frank: I mean, I guess if you're looking for all-out performance, if you're the sort of person who's going to save half a gram
[2371.4] Frank: by replacing all the screws in your frame with something that's got a hole down the middle,
[2376.4] Frank: then maybe the extra three milliseconds round the lap that you get by doing this might make a difference.
[2386.4] Jack: But yeah, the fact that they call it NOS, nitrous oxide, it just irritates the **** out of me.
[2396.4] Tony: Like, engines run better in cold weather.
[2400.4] Tony: Like, you know, my type R will run better on a frosty morning and go faster than a hot day.
[2407.4] Tony: Is that the same kind of thing?
[2409.4] Jack: Well, that's the thing with engines, is that they might be warm so that everything's expanded and the oil's moving a bit freer.
[2421.4] Jack: Obviously, if it gets too hot, it will seize.
[2425.4] Jack: But the whole cold thing and it running better is because cold air is more dense.
[2431.4] Jack: So you'll be getting more oxygen into the cylinder and therefore the ratio of air to fuel mixture is better.
[2442.4] Jack: So you're closer to the, what is it, 14.7 to one or something?
[2447.4] Jack: I don't know, stoichiometric bollocks, I don't know.
[2450.4] Jack: But that's it.
[2452.4] Jack: You have more oxygen and then you can add a bit more fuel and you get a bigger bang.
[2457.4] Jack: So it seems better.
[2459.4] Jack: But, you know, engines don't really like being cold because everything's all clamped together and, you know, more friction.
[2467.4] Jack: So you want the optimum running temperature.
[2470.4] Jack: Thank you.
[2471.4] Frank: Thank you.
[2472.4] Frank: Welcome to the cold.
[2474.4] Frank: The cold improvement is from PV equals NRT instead of the electric situation where it's P equals I squared R.
[2482.4] Frank: It's perfectly simple.
[2484.4] Jack: Frank is way smarter than me because I have no idea what he said.
[2489.4] Frank: What did he just say?
[2490.4] Jack: I don't understand what he said.
[2492.4] Jack: What does P stand for?
[2494.4] Frank: Well, that's the thing.
[2495.4] Frank: In the two different equations, they mean different things.
[2497.4] Frank: In P equals I squared R, P is power dissipated through ohmic losses.
[2502.4] Frank: And then in PV equals NRT, the P is pressure because it's the air pressure.
[2507.4] Tony: What's your shopping list like?
[2512.54] Frank: Who's that to and about?
[2514.54] Frank: Frank.
[2515.54] Frank: My shopping list?
[2516.54] Jack: He doesn't have a shopping list.
[2518.54] Jack: His mind's so powerful that he just orders stuff from Google directly.
[2526.54] Jack: So anyway, this person who I accidentally flashed their name, I'm very sorry.
[2531.54] Jack: So please don't go on his Facebook and take the piss out of him.
[2536.54] Jack: But anyway, this young gentleman has got a flight one tattoo.
[2540.54] Curry: Now, I think he kind of deserves to have the piss taken out of him, surely.
[2546.54] Jack: We're not advocating bullying here, but why would you want that?
[2554.54] Jack: And on your neck.
[2557.54] Tony: Terrible, that is.
[2558.54] Frank: And this is coming from someone who's repeatedly talked about having what tattooed on him?
[2566.82] Jack: I don't know.
[2567.82] Jack: What was it?
[2569.82] Tony: I think it was across your butt cheeks, wasn't it?
[2572.82] Curry: Yes, you let us turn it out on someone's butt.
[2574.82] Curry: I can't remember whose.
[2575.82] Curry: It's Tony's or Jack's.
[2577.82] Tony: An LDO on your left cheek was LD and then the O was...
[2586.82] Jack: No, I don't think I'd ever get another tattoo really ever again.
[2594.82] Tony: Well, I definitely wouldn't get flight one or kiss or anything.
[2600.82] Curry: How much would I have to pay you since you're a fan now?
[2604.82] Tony: I'm just saying, go and check it out, people.
[2609.82] Tony: I'm not getting a tattoo of emu flight on me.
[2613.82] Curry: I don't quite.
[2614.82] Curry: I mean, it's a bit like if you're talking about getting flight one or something there,
[2618.82] Curry: you want to step away from having like Joshua Bardwell or LDO tattooed across your neck.
[2624.82] Curry: It's strange.
[2626.82] Jack: If anyone gets LDO tattooed on them, I will reimburse you with whatever it costs.
[2634.82] Jack: And tell Frank to help you find psychiatric therapy.
[2642.82] Jack: Any views expressed by any guest on this show or personal, I may not reflect the views of others.
[2648.82] Curry: We thought we were on safe ground because only our season are here, but we're just going off on tangents.
[2653.82] Jack: It's me. I do apologize. It's me for bringing this stuff up.
[2658.82] Jack: I'm very sorry. I don't mean anywhere.
[2661.82] Curry: So is anybody going to get any flying in over the next couple of weeks is the big question.
[2667.82] Jack: Everywhere is level three.
[2669.82] Jack: Of course.
[2671.82] Tony: I'm going to fly again in Edenbridge tomorrow.
[2679.82] Tony: If you wanted to meet me, Richard Warwick, because I saw you fly exactly where I flew today.
[2686.82] Tony: I'll be there tomorrow.
[2688.82] Tony: There you go. That's where I'm flying tomorrow.
[2691.82] Curry: Try not to lick each other.
[2693.82] Curry: Yeah, we stand apart.
[2697.82] Jack: Okay.
[2700.82] Tony: I know what that is, Jack.
[2702.82] Tony: It's fun.
[2707.83] Tony: You have to go to Wales, then.
[2709.83] Jack: Any views expressed on.
[2714.83] Jack: May not reflect the views.
[2716.83] Jack: Sorry, Karen.
[2718.83] Frank: There's there was some other news.
[2723.83] Frank: With the drone corridor that's been announced.
[2728.83] Curry: This is you mentioned this 15 minutes ago.
[2732.83] Curry: What's this all about?
[2734.83] Frank: The drone corridor is being set up.
[2738.83] Frank: It's going to be like a stretch.
[2740.83] Frank: I think it's up in Oxford somewhere.
[2741.83] Frank: So probably somewhere quite close to the Amazon place, I imagine.
[2745.83] Frank: Where they're going to start allowing beveloss and autonomous flights for certain people.
[2753.83] Frank: And it's going to be kind of mixed use between unmanned and manned aircraft all using the same corridor.
[2760.83] Curry: So we can just go up there and fly beveloss.
[2763.83] Frank: I don't think we can.
[2764.83] Frank: I think these people who have the specific permissions can.
[2767.83] Curry: The ones that have paid the government lots of money.
[2769.83] Frank: Yes.
[2771.83] Tony: Well, that's all that then.
[2773.83] Frank: Yeah, that's how that works.
[2774.83] Tony: That's how I normally get away with it.
[2777.83] Frank: Yeah, they've just got a Tony there with just lots of 50 pound notes.
[2781.83] Curry: Someone turns up.
[2782.83] Curry: There you go.
[2783.83] Curry: You didn't see anything here.
[2785.83] Tony: I think this year is a 50.
[2788.83] Tony: Mum's a word.
[2790.83] Tony: Normally helps.
[2792.83] Tony: That's how we flee the castle.
[2796.83] Tony: Anyway, not for that.
[2801.14] Curry: I'm still I'm not I'm not suggesting anyone should do this, of course.
[2805.14] Curry: But if the Amazon drone delivery takes off, how much fun would it be to form little groups of quad patrols
[2812.14] Curry: and basically knock them out of the sky for spare parts?
[2815.14] Curry: Just just for fun.
[2819.14] Curry: I think anyone do.
[2822.14] Curry: We've read it.
[2824.14] Curry: I don't know.
[2825.14] Curry: Build it.
[2826.14] Curry: Build other things like my legs has gone wrong.
[2827.14] Curry: Let me just knock this Amazon drone out the sky.
[2829.14] Curry: I'm sure we'll find some parts.
[2831.14] Jack: What would they use, though?
[2833.84] Jack: Surely be like all long range bespoke.
[2836.84] Jack: Yeah, not bespoke proprietary.
[2839.84] Jack: Is that right?
[2840.84] Jack: You do.
[2841.84] Curry: You don't want out the sky and have a proper look at it.
[2843.84] Curry: Would you?
[2845.84] Curry: I think we've got a team.
[2848.84] Jack: I mean, yeah, loads of people be like, Curry, you son of a bitch.
[2854.84] Jack: I'm in.
[2858.84] Curry: Oceans 14.
[2859.84] Curry: The weirdest, the weirdest film ever where we just knock things out of the sky.
[2865.47] Tony: Yeah, I'd be up for stealing stuff.
[2870.47] Curry: We need to read the disclaimer again.
[2874.47] BlueOwl: That's a very honest one.
[2877.47] Jack: Anyone on this show, a person may not.
[2883.47] Tony: I don't live near Gatwick.
[2885.47] Jack: We're all idiots.
[2888.47] Frank: There was the Guardian put out a special kind of one-off podcast about the Gatwick drone,
[2899.47] Frank: or not drone, depending on who you believe.
[2902.47] Frank: It definitely wasn't there.
[2905.47] Frank: Where they kind of speak to lots of people, including a couple of people that you might know
[2910.47] Frank: from the drone community in the UK, Ian Hudson and Eddie Mitchell.
[2918.47] Frank: By the end of it, they were like, the government says there definitely was a drone,
[2924.47] Frank: but everyone else says there probably wasn't.
[2927.47] Frank: Who's to believe?
[2930.47] Frank: It's kind of interesting.
[2934.47] Frank: That's gone.
[2937.47] Frank: The final report from the police was that there was definitely at least two drones.
[2944.47] Tony: What flew for four hours a piece in the night and in wet weather?
[2949.47] Frank: I don't think that's what they said.
[2951.47] Frank: They definitely at some point were drones.
[2955.47] Curry: I think the problem was that there were some drones at some point.
[2958.47] Curry: Yeah, there were Gatwick drones.
[2962.47] Tony: Yeah, Gatwick have their own drones.
[2964.47] Tony: They scare off birds and stuff like that.
[2966.47] Frank: Gatwick have their own drones and also there was the police brought along their drones
[2971.47] Frank: and the other drones.
[2973.47] Tony: It was just a prime fest.
[2975.47] Tony: It was just like a meetup at Gatwick.
[2980.47] Frank: One Christmas a couple of years ago.
[2983.47] Curry: It was much like any other meetup where they're trying to do some chase footage.
[2986.47] Curry: Where are they? I can't find them.
[2989.47] Tony: I'm in the building.
[2992.47] Curry: Which runway? What were the planes on it?
[2998.47] Curry: Richard.
[3002.47] Curry: We saw you on TV.
[3005.47] Curry: You might be suspicious still on top of a van with goggles on.
[3009.47] Tony: I can't believe I saw you on the runway.
[3012.47] Frank: Was it Sky or was it BBC Euron? I can't remember.
[3016.47] Frank: I think we see.
[3018.47] BlueOwl: Seriously? I don't know the story.
[3022.47] Tony: There's some baseball somewhere.
[3027.47] Tony: I'll share it with you later.
[3029.47] Tony: If I can find it on my Facebook or I'll find it and share it.
[3035.47] Jack: I've never been so embarrassed for him in all my life.
[3039.47] Tony: I was sticking up for our community, I'll have you know.
[3043.47] Jack: Oh my God.
[3045.47] Jack: Yeah, we're all nuts.
[3048.47] Jack: We stand on top of our vans and shoutings at the sky.
[3054.47] Jack: We stand on top of our vans and shoutings all lies and the government of evil.
[3061.47] Tony: They knew it was real and they looked like a demented lass.
[3071.47] Tony: I'm not even going to come back for the Christmas.
[3076.47] Frank: I think he was quite lucky not to get arrested, to be honest.
[3080.47] Frank: I mean there was that couple that did the terrible crime of owning a helicopter.
[3085.47] Tony: To be fair, I wouldn't have got 50k.
[3090.47] Jack: Yeah, but he didn't, did he?
[3092.47] Tony: Well, he probably got 25, but still.
[3095.47] Jack: I think the other thing is that you were there, they checked your van and all you had was window cleaning stuff.
[3104.82] Tony: That is exactly what I was doing Richard.
[3108.82] Frank: Van surfing with FPV goggles on lol.
[3114.82] Jack: What did the roster say to you anyway?
[3117.82] Jack: What did they question you?
[3119.82] Tony: Caroline, Tyler has only been watching his podcast for about two weeks and she already knows.
[3125.82] Curry: She's got the hang of it already.
[3128.82] Frank: Totally sticking up for us, we're all doomed.
[3133.82] Tony: Oh my god, can I leave? It's been five years.
[3137.82] Tony: I've done enough.
[3139.82] Jack: It's time to put the old dogs down in here.
[3143.82] Tony: Me and Toni.
[3145.82] Tony: Yeah, no one seems to f***ing like me. I'm just going to go forever.
[3149.82] Jack: Oh Toni.
[3150.82] Tony: Toni without you now.
[3152.82] Tony: That's a shame.
[3153.82] Jack: I know.
[3154.82] Tony: Toni without months.
[3156.82] Jack: I know you're the only one who's seen the outside world.
[3159.82] Tony: I have to go out to earn a living.
[3162.82] Jack: Strong enough, the immune system.
[3165.82] Tony: Yeah.
[3166.82] Jack: I don't believe the government's lies of Covid.
[3169.82] Jack: I don't believe it.
[3172.82] Frank: The views of others not in the views expressed.
[3177.82] Frank: Yes, not.
[3178.82] Jack: That was facetious sarcasm and I'm allowed to do that for a comedic value.
[3184.82] Tony: Literally, let's end on an hour dead on quickly.
[3188.82] Tony: Look at the time.
[3189.82] Tony: Let's just end it.
[3190.82] Tony: I want to end.
[3191.82] Tony: I'm going.
[3192.82] Tony: End it, Frank.
[3193.82] Tony: Dead on one hour.
[3196.82] Frank: All right, Jack.
[3197.82] Frank: Do you want to call us out then?
[3198.82] Jack: Guys, thank you so much for listening.
[3202.82] Jack: Thank you so much for the donations.
[3204.82] Jack: And thank you so much for all our Patreons.
[3208.82] Jack: Love you guys.
[3209.82] Jack: Tonight, we've been joined by our little Toni.
[3215.82] Jack: For sure.
[3216.82] BlueOwl: Quick, hurry up.
[3219.82] Jack: The wonderful blue owl.
[3221.82] BlueOwl: Bye everyone.
[3222.82] BlueOwl: See you next time.
[3223.82] BlueOwl: Five seconds.
[3224.82] Jack: Andrew slash Frank.
[3225.82] BlueOwl: Three, two, one.
[3226.82] BlueOwl: Just end it.
[3227.82] Jack: First call.
[3228.82] Tony: Bye.
[3229.82] Jack: Telemetry lost.