=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 278 ===
Title: LDO 278 - Christmas 2020
Recorded: 2020-12-24
Hosts: Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): James "Wyntrblue" Cherrill
Total audience: 1,667
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qCd4ReB0FY); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/955395619-letsdroneout-ldo-278-christmas-2020.mp3)
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[0.0] Curry: Welcome to Let's Drone Out, the original and best drone themed podcast.
[5.0] Curry: We record the show live on the Thursday night on youtube.com forward slash Let's Drone Out
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[13.0] Curry: Wacky Wes
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[21.0] Curry: Let's Drone Out now
[52.15] Jack: Hello and welcome back to Let's Drone Out.
[56.15] Jack: Our Christmas special.
[58.15] Jack: We joined in a nice little intimate crowd of my favourite curry kitten.
[64.15] Jack: Hello, welcome from my bed.
[66.15] Curry: Any chance of a disclaimer?
[68.15] Curry: Any views expressed by any guests on this show or personal may not reflect the views of others or anybody in general.
[76.15] Jack: My little Tony.
[78.15] Jack: Bonjour.
[79.15] Jack: And Andrew Staphranc.
[81.15] Jack: Bad humbug.
[82.15] Jack: I know.
[83.15] Jack: All right, tier four everyone.
[86.15] Jack: Oh Jesus.
[88.15] Tony: I knew it'd end in tears.
[89.15] Tony: Oh.
[91.15] Jack: Oh my God, I can't believe he made that joke.
[94.15] Tony: Well, I made it the other day and it was quite funny.
[97.15] Tony: We had to be there, you know what I mean?
[99.15] Tony: How's the name?
[100.15] Tony: It was before I got shot in the face.
[102.15] Tony: Yeah, how's the name?
[103.15] Curry: Oh, I was just replying.
[104.15] Curry: Yeah, it's not too bad.
[105.15] Curry: I didn't have to use crutches today.
[108.15] Curry: I can't bend it much.
[110.15] Curry: And I'm just doing exercise and taking drugs to do essentially before I can do some regular stuff.
[116.15] Curry: But what I can't do, I found out because I thought I'd have like loads of times to sit and do editing or programming or whatever.
[121.15] Curry: So I can't sit at a desk because my knee doesn't bend.
[125.15] Curry: Also, having a poo is interesting.
[128.15] Curry: If you try sitting on the toilet with one leg completely straight out and the other one bent, it's not easy.
[133.15] Curry: It's a logistical interest.
[135.15] Tony: So now I've got images of you having a poo poo.
[138.15] Tony: Great.
[139.15] Curry: That's okay.
[140.15] Tony: Whatever.
[141.15] Tony: I'm going to be that.
[144.15] Tony: I bet Jack knows the word for that.
[150.15] Tony: You know, you got cry, which is what was it called, Jack?
[155.15] Tony: When you're crying your eyes out and having a cranking.
[159.15] Tony: Cranking?
[160.15] Tony: What's a poo when you're having a poo?
[162.15] Tony: Blunking.
[165.15] Tony: I knew you knew something.
[167.15] Tony: Is there a word for that?
[168.15] Jack: No, I've gone clunking when you get a blowjob and you're taking a shit at the same time.
[174.15] Curry: No, I want to concentrate on one or the other.
[177.15] Curry: It's a bit of a mixed message for the body.
[180.15] Jack: I don't think I could get off to that.
[183.15] Tony: I feel sorry for the 23 people watching live at the moment on a Christmas Eve and we've literally got not much to talk about.
[191.15] Tony: It's just probably going to be just talking amongst ourselves.
[196.15] Jack: What happened to that girl who comes on now and again, Blue Owl?
[200.15] Curry: She left us.
[201.15] Curry: She's got better things.
[202.15] Curry: She had a better offer.
[203.15] Curry: I thought I had, but my better offer told me to go away and I'll do this instead.
[209.15] Tony: Oh, nice.
[210.15] Curry: I'm going to fill up with you and your windgy knee thing.
[212.15] Curry: Go away for an hour.
[214.15] Tony: Your windgy knee thing.
[215.15] Jack: He honestly felt like she sent you to the vet.
[220.15] Jack: A little bit.
[222.15] Jack: Play with your friends.
[224.15] Jack: It was sort of like, you can't walk with me.
[230.15] Jack: You're slowing me down.
[232.15] Jack: I can't shoot you in the face.
[234.15] Jack: You're going in.
[235.15] Jack: You're getting it done.
[236.15] Jack: Then all of a sudden it happened and now you're broken even more.
[240.15] Curry: She doesn't appreciate me being broken because I can do very little and she complains that I'm not doing anything.
[246.15] Curry: It's an excellent time.
[248.15] Curry: People had to do the hoovering today.
[250.15] Curry: I said, do you want me to do that?
[252.15] Curry: She's like, yeah, sure.
[253.15] Curry: Of course you can.
[254.15] Curry: Carried on hoovering.
[256.15] Curry: I offered.
[257.15] Curry: Would you like me to go to dinner?
[259.15] Jack: I offered who would sat down.
[262.15] Jack: Is that the one?
[264.15] Jack: Yeah, it is Blue Owl.
[266.15] Jack: Hello.
[267.15] Tony: Hello, Blue Owl.
[269.15] Tony: Thanks for not being here.
[271.15] Jack: We can really do with you.
[273.15] Tony: Look how Christmassy I've gone.
[277.15] Tony: I know.
[278.15] Tony: It's actually I'm getting really hot.
[280.15] Tony: And then Frank.
[281.15] Tony: Fine.
[282.15] Jack: Fine.
[283.15] Jack: Come on.
[284.15] Jack: He will only winch now.
[287.15] Tony: Come on, Frankie boy.
[289.15] Tony: Headphones off.
[291.15] Jack: So someone's keep my car in two different places.
[295.15] Frank: Saving the festival.
[297.15] Tony: That's actually a really good jumper.
[300.15] Tony: We'll talk about your car kit in a minute.
[303.15] Tony: I just want to look at.
[305.15] Tony: Health boy.
[307.15] Tony: That's with three health and safety.
[311.15] Tony: Oh my God.
[313.15] Tony: That's well good.
[314.15] Jack: It's a 3D stone ball.
[318.15] Curry: And where were the police?
[319.15] Curry: Because the police arrested you for attempting
[321.15] Curry: to open your own door.
[323.15] Jack: They missed something.
[325.15] Jack: It was probably PC line.
[327.15] Jack: Probably half that he couldn't do me.
[329.15] Jack: So I can keep my car.
[331.15] Jack: So you can't get paid by someone.
[333.15] Tony: That's really nice.
[334.15] Tony: What was that Christmas Eve?
[337.15] Tony: What was that down in Brighton or up somewhere else?
[343.15] Jack: Bloody hell.
[344.15] Jack: I know.
[345.15] Jack: It's great.
[346.15] Jack: Thanks for that.
[347.15] Tony: Stop changing your name.
[349.15] Tony: My mum watches this.
[351.15] Jack: Well, I'm your new mum.
[353.15] Tony: Well, I don't want you to be my mum.
[356.15] Tony: And I want a divorce as well.
[359.15] Tony: You can't have one.
[360.15] Tony: You're not taking care of yourself.
[362.15] Tony: Look at your hair.
[364.15] Tony: Let's start with that.
[365.15] Tony: Let's work from the top down.
[368.15] Jack: Look, not my fault.
[370.15] Jack: I can't fix your new boiler and you bought a new one.
[374.15] Tony: What are you talking about?
[375.15] Tony: It's fixed, bruv.
[376.15] Tony: It's all right.
[377.15] Jack: No, but you bought a new one, didn't you?
[379.15] Tony: Yeah.
[381.15] Tony: It was stupid.
[382.15] Tony: It was probably easier to just buy a new boiler for my van.
[385.15] Tony: Don't talk to me about my van.
[387.15] Tony: Mind you.
[388.15] Tony: How's your van, Tony?
[390.15] Tony: I've spent too much money on the bloody thing.
[393.15] Tony: You could have bought a new van.
[395.15] Tony: I was in England the other day, done a flight,
[400.15] Tony: reversed out, and then I heard this.
[403.15] Tony: Every time I was steering, I was like, oh, God.
[405.15] Tony: Steering rack or something's gone.
[407.15] Tony: And then I had to get towed home because my steering rack went
[412.15] Tony: for another 400 quid.
[414.15] Tony: Mind you, the garage got it turned around in 24 hours
[417.15] Tony: so I could work today, which was pretty f***ing epic.
[421.15] Tony: Fixed and done, and I was back at work the next day,
[424.15] Tony: so one day off, not too bad.
[427.15] Tony: Well, yeah, bloody annoying.
[431.15] Tony: I don't like spending lots of money on my van.
[434.15] Frank: Is someone flowing like a tiny whoop into your face, Tony?
[437.15] Frank: I got shot in the face.
[442.15] Tony: Airsoft.
[445.15] Tony: Airsoft, you have to wear goggles,
[447.15] Tony: and I wear a big face mesh as well,
[450.15] Tony: wrapped around my ears and over here.
[452.15] Tony: And it was close-quarters combat,
[454.15] Tony: and this guy just come round and just shot,
[456.15] Tony: and it just went through the tiniest of gaps,
[459.15] Tony: and it just shot me straight on the nose.
[461.15] Tony: I thought he broke it.
[463.15] Tony: Well, actually, it doesn't hurt.
[465.15] Tony: But, yeah.
[467.15] Tony: So it comes with the game, doesn't it?
[469.15] Tony: It's all good fun.
[471.15] Frank: It doesn't hurt after how many glasses and pints?
[475.15] Tony: Yes, exactly. It's fine.
[479.15] Tony: Just stay pissed.
[482.15] Jack: You were wearing Christmas hats, weren't you?
[484.15] Jack: So they were able to see the ferret.
[486.15] Tony: Yeah, I was completely camouflaged until my head.
[491.15] Jack: So you just shot the living f*** out of it, I don't know.
[495.15] Tony: No, that's good.
[497.15] Tony: I don't know where I'm going to go.
[500.15] Tony: They've got another day open, 27th.
[503.15] Tony: Is it next Sunday? I'm not sure I'm going to go there.
[506.15] Tony: Happy Christmas Eve, everyone.
[509.15] Jack: Happy Christmas Eve.
[510.15] Tony: Everyone in the chat, everyone here.
[513.15] Jack: I forgot to bring a drink up for me.
[516.15] Jack: It used to be in one room.
[518.15] Tony: Shall I text your mother and Teva?
[521.15] Jack: She won't.
[523.15] Tony: Me and her are on good terms.
[526.15] Jack: Yeah, go for it, go on.
[528.15] Tony: Let's see if this will never happen.
[532.15] Curry: Are you going to sign up to your OnlyFans, Tony, as a Christmas present?
[536.15] Curry: Yes, do that.
[538.15] Curry: That'll be hilarious.
[540.15] Curry: So any drone related stuff happening?
[543.15] Curry: Frankly, for some reason about something and everybody else.
[547.15] Frank: I was going to say, Richard Warwick in the chat keeps talking about some new regulations.
[552.15] Frank: I don't know. I've been busy.
[555.15] Frank: I've, no.
[557.15] Frank: I will read it sometime next year, probably.
[561.15] Frank: Not happening.
[563.15] Frank: Someone else wants to read it and come on and talk about it.
[566.15] Frank: You're very welcome.
[568.15] Frank: Have you given up, Frank?
[570.15] Jack: I've given up.
[572.15] Jack: Oh, my God.
[574.15] Jack: Thank you, thank you.
[576.15] Jack: Do you want to just blink?
[578.15] (Patrons): Thank you.
[581.15] Jack: Yeah, that's fine. Thank you, I'm very grateful.
[584.15] Jack: Thank you.
[586.15] Jack: Well, what do you know?
[588.15] Tony: Yeah, there you go. Told you.
[590.15] Tony: Communicating with your mum.
[592.15] Jack: That's horrible.
[594.15] Jack: Tony, he's got a direct line.
[596.15] Jack: He's my mother.
[599.15] Jack: And it's not very equal.
[602.15] Tony: Richard Warwick says, Tony, you're in...
[605.15] Tony: That was the wrong one.
[606.15] Tony: Move, Tony, you're in tier four on Saturday.
[608.15] Tony: I know.
[610.15] Curry: Everyone's going to be in tier four, aren't they?
[612.15] Curry: We are.
[614.15] Curry: Frank, presumably, already is because he's somewhere near London.
[618.15] Tony: Oh, God, poor Frank.
[620.15] Tony: Are you allowed out to do anything?
[623.15] Tony: No, they'll shoot him on the side.
[625.15] Tony: What's the exercise thing now?
[627.15] Frank: Was that all changed?
[628.15] Frank: You're allowed to go outside.
[630.15] Frank: You're just not allowed to go inside anywhere else, pretty much.
[634.15] Curry: It's not recommended going outside where it is.
[636.15] Curry: You have to get stabbed as a general rule.
[639.15] Frank: I mean, there was the other night, I was genuinely looking on Twitter
[642.15] Frank: and I thought something had blown up.
[643.15] Frank: There was a good boom, clatter, tinkle.
[646.15] Frank: And I was like, hmm, that sounds...
[648.15] Jack: Any idea what that was?
[649.15] Frank: No.
[650.15] Frank: I think it was probably a car crash, but...
[653.15] Tony: I don't know.
[654.15] Frank: Funny car crash.
[656.15] Tony: It's flown, right?
[657.15] Tony: Any flown, curry kit?
[659.15] Tony: No.
[660.15] Tony: Got any things through the post?
[661.15] Curry: I don't have things through the post, but I can't do anything with them.
[665.15] Curry: I got a pair.
[667.15] Curry: You know, like, everybody's been putting out reviews of the beta FPV
[671.15] Curry: little tiny Insta360 camera.
[673.15] Curry: Yeah.
[674.15] Curry: I got a package from beta FPV and I was like, me too.
[677.15] Curry: But no, it was a pair of very budget box goggles.
[681.15] Curry: So I'm down on the scale.
[684.15] Curry: It was like, Andy RC's up here.
[686.15] Curry: I'm just the dirt on his feet as far as...
[688.15] Tony: I'm not 100 cents sold on it, though.
[691.15] Tony: Until he put the ND filter on and then I was like...
[695.15] Curry: It certainly doesn't look as good as the GoPro, does it?
[698.15] Curry: But I suppose it's a step in the right direction because...
[700.15] Curry: Insta360 are actually trying to do something for us as opposed to GoPro,
[706.15] Curry: who seem to be actively trying to dissuade us from doing anything
[710.15] Curry: by making it like one metric ton.
[713.15] Curry: Just plop that on your drone, see how it goes.
[716.15] Tony: I like the idea and stuff and it didn't look too bad.
[720.15] Tony: I could see Jello in it a few times,
[722.15] Tony: but when he put the ND filter on and flew it around his field,
[725.15] Tony: it was so much better.
[728.15] Curry: I think it just needs a few iterations of stuff before it comes out.
[733.15] Tony: I think I'll leave this one and buy the second one.
[738.15] Tony: Where is Andy? I'll miss him. He ain't been on for a few weeks.
[742.15] Tony: Can someone text him?
[745.15] Jack: He's not very well at the moment
[748.15] Jack: because obviously all the restrictions changed
[751.15] Jack: and he really struggled with all that.
[754.15] Jack: So he's not been texting him every day and calling him,
[760.15] Jack: but he can't answer.
[762.15] Jack: He can't really leave his bed at the moment.
[766.15] Jack: So if you do want to or reach out to Andy
[772.15] Jack: and tell him how much you love him, I'm sure he'll appreciate it.
[775.15] Curry: But yeah, he's not doing that good.
[777.15] Curry: A brief conversation with him yesterday on Messenger
[782.15] Curry: because he thought I was active at 4am.
[785.15] Curry: So he was saying, hello, you're up late at 4am.
[787.15] Curry: But it wasn't. It was just my desktop logged in.
[789.15] Curry: But I did get back to him.
[792.15] Curry: So we had a question there pop up from Wind
[795.15] Curry: asking if the Fat Shark shark bite is available in the UK of yet.
[799.15] Curry: It's the only place in order to come.
[801.15] Curry: Unmanned tape but nothing yet.
[803.15] Jack: The only place I've seen it in stock was get FPV and that was there.
[808.15] Curry: And that's in the States, isn't it?
[810.15] Curry: Yeah.
[811.15] Curry: But yeah, aside from painless having one,
[814.15] Curry: I don't know if anybody else has one in the UK
[816.15] Curry: or has ordered one in the UK.
[819.15] Tony: I won't bother.
[820.15] Tony: It means me buying some new goggles and stuff.
[824.15] Jack: You've got the HDMI link in anyway.
[827.15] Jack: It will work for your goggles.
[829.15] Jack: Yeah, but they're not HD goggles.
[832.15] Jack: It's no point.
[833.15] Jack: So it's none of the HD ones.
[836.15] Tony: I know.
[838.15] Jack: But as long as you've got that mini HD port,
[841.15] Jack: that's all you need for micro.
[844.15] Tony: It's no point because I ain't going to see it.
[846.15] Tony: I ain't going to fly it.
[847.15] Tony: It's not going to be HD, is it?
[850.15] Tony: No, none of them are.
[851.15] Curry: To be fair, I tested the previous version,
[854.15] Curry: which was the bite frost on my Dawn Freeze, which aren't HD.
[858.15] Curry: But although it was being obviously scaled down,
[861.15] Curry: it did look a bit better than a regular analog camera.
[864.15] Curry: You could tell there was more detail there.
[867.15] Curry: So if you've got really good scale down,
[870.15] Curry: it's still better than an analog camera sort of slightly scaled up,
[874.15] Curry: if you like.
[876.15] Curry: But obviously, you've got the proper HD goggles.
[879.15] Curry: It can look better.
[880.15] Tony: I think we forgot to do a giveaway last week.
[884.15] Tony: We can probably do one this week from Menace.
[887.15] Tony: It's digital.
[890.15] Tony: It's going to be digital antennas.
[894.15] Tony: Quick, someone think of a question and an answer.
[901.15] Tony: How many Christmas jumpers?
[903.15] Tony: We did last week.
[904.15] Curry: Last week I was there.
[905.15] Curry: I came up with a number.
[910.15] Tony: Frank, do you know the answer?
[914.15] Frank: I don't have to think about it.
[917.15] Tony: That's the question.
[920.15] Tony: How many Christmas jumpers does Frank own?
[924.15] Tony: Closest wins.
[927.15] Tony: Numskull won last week, still not received it.
[930.15] Tony: Well, post is delayed.
[932.15] Tony: He's in France.
[933.15] Tony: It might take a while.
[935.15] Tony: No, he gets sent from the UK.
[937.15] Tony: Sorry?
[938.15] Tony: No, he gets sent from the UK.
[941.15] Tony: Do all of them get sent from the UK, though?
[944.15] Tony: No, I think so.
[945.15] Tony: I'll chase him up on that for you, Numskull.
[949.15] Curry: If we talk about contests that didn't work so well,
[954.15] Curry: where are we on the Tony cake promising someone something?
[958.15] Curry: Did that ever happen?
[959.15] Jack: Never happened, ever.
[962.15] Curry: He's a nightmare, that guy.
[967.15] Jack: I haven't flown anyone.
[969.15] Jack: I'm pissed off that I'll have to now write my ID number
[973.15] Jack: on a fecking tiny whoop.
[976.15] Jack: Is that the 1st of January?
[980.15] Jack: How and where do I write my flyer ID?
[985.15] Tony: Well, you seem to be able to put Tony's gay or something.
[990.15] Jack: No, I put Tony gay.
[992.15] Jack: That's it.
[993.15] Tony: Yeah, well, I'm sure you can check the numbers, Frank.
[1000.15] Frank: I'm just thinking, I'm pretty sure.
[1004.15] Frank: I'm pretty sure Fruity got it, I'm pretty sure it's 6.
[1007.15] Curry: So I wasn't following that.
[1008.15] Curry: Is it now ID numbers on everything?
[1011.15] Jack: If it's got a camera and if it's over 250 grams...
[1015.15] Curry: You had to go on a tiny whoop.
[1018.15] Curry: Yeah, it has a camera.
[1020.15] Curry: And you said it's over 250 grams.
[1022.15] Jack: It's under 250 grams, but it has a camera.
[1025.15] Curry: What about if it's over 250 grams and has a camera?
[1028.15] Curry: And then it needs one.
[1029.15] Curry: Yeah.
[1030.15] Curry: So weight's immaterial now.
[1032.15] Frank: Only if it's under 250 grams and doesn't have a camera.
[1036.15] Curry: What if you're flying it exclusively in your house?
[1039.15] Frank: Because you're indoors.
[1042.15] Frank: If it's outside, then.
[1044.15] Frank: If it's outside, then you've got a problem.
[1047.15] Jack: Yeah, I like to fly out my window.
[1050.15] Jack: You can't do that, Jack.
[1052.15] Frank: I mean, you've also got the issues of distance from a built-up area
[1056.15] Frank: and structures and people and buildings not under your control
[1059.15] Frank: and all those kinds of things.
[1061.15] Frank: But by the sounds of it, from what Richard Borick is saying in the chat,
[1065.15] Frank: that sounds like there's been an exemption for the Model Association members.
[1071.15] Frank: But I haven't read it and won't be reading it, so...
[1077.15] Frank: I don't know.
[1078.15] Curry: I just told you.
[1079.15] Curry: I need to give it up. I doesn't care.
[1081.15] Curry: I'm saying, despite the power, just do whatever feels right to you.
[1084.15] Jack: Yeah.
[1085.15] Jack: I've got five...
[1087.15] Jack: My mum's given me five indoor fireworks.
[1090.15] Tony: I used to love them.
[1093.15] Tony: My mum and dad used to do fireworks for us a lot when we were kids.
[1097.15] Tony: Me and my brother.
[1099.15] Jack: And a box of matches swung as well.
[1103.15] Tony: Are they just sparklers or actual indoor fireworks?
[1106.15] Tony: They're sparklers.
[1108.15] Curry: We've got another good question from Win.
[1111.15] Curry: Thanks, Win, for supplying us with questions when we can't be sensible enough.
[1114.15] Curry: Which is, what's all this going on with DJI in the States
[1119.15] Curry: regarding security?
[1121.15] Curry: So, yeah, they've been put on a security list.
[1126.15] Curry: Which means, it basically means in the US,
[1129.15] Curry: you can't export certain security products to them.
[1133.15] Curry: So they're like, they're not quite on an embargo list as such.
[1136.15] Curry: They're on sort of a naughty list, essentially.
[1140.15] Curry: It doesn't mean you can't buy their stuff.
[1142.15] Curry: It just means if someone was producing cryptographic stuff,
[1147.15] Curry: then they'd have to have a special export license to send it to DJI.
[1151.15] Curry: This stuff happened to me when I worked for a US company, which is IBM.
[1155.15] Curry: I wanted to sell a printer to an Iranian bank.
[1160.15] Curry: And the printer was about 300 quid.
[1163.15] Curry: And the amount of paperwork was about this thick
[1166.15] Curry: and must have cost about 20,000 pounds worth of people's time to say,
[1171.15] Curry: okay, we don't think they can use it in some sort of attack.
[1174.15] Curry: You're okay to sell this Iranian bank a printer
[1178.15] Curry: where basically your little book in it prints out a statement.
[1182.15] Curry: So, yeah, it's a little bit crazy, but that's the way US works.
[1187.15] Jack: Similar experience with a server.
[1190.15] Jack: No parts in it, just a box for a server to a certain country.
[1197.15] Jack: And they may or may not have got in trouble for it.
[1203.15] Frank: All of this is peanuts.
[1205.15] Frank: You try dealing with the international trade arms regulations.
[1208.15] Frank: No, that gets entertaining.
[1211.15] Frank: Please do explain.
[1212.15] Curry: Please do explain.
[1215.15] Curry: HailSpinasty is saying too naughty for Fleur.
[1218.15] Curry: And so are we as well.
[1220.15] Curry: In the UK, we can only have, was it like 15 frames a second or something
[1225.15] Curry: at a reduced resolution than you can in the US.
[1228.15] Curry: So the UK are like an embargoed country as far as Fleur goes as well.
[1234.15] Frank: We may or may not know someone in the FPV community
[1240.15] Frank: who has been known to smuggle Fleur cameras around.
[1248.15] Frank: Because, yeah, you can buy them freely in America
[1254.15] Frank: and you can move them around without people noticing.
[1258.15] Frank: But, yeah.
[1260.15] Jack: Worth more than gold.
[1263.15] Frank: Probably.
[1264.15] Frank: I wouldn't be surprised.
[1266.15] Tony: Andy's in the chat.
[1267.15] Tony: Hi, Andy.
[1268.15] Tony: Hope you're well.
[1269.15] Tony: Miss you, Mike.
[1271.15] Curry: Andy, you slag.
[1273.15] Curry: What were you about to mention?
[1274.15] Curry: Something very interesting about arms dealing or something, Frank?
[1278.15] Frank: The international trade arms regulations are basically America saying,
[1283.15] Frank: don't let other people have stuff that could be used as weapons.
[1288.15] Frank: It gets very, very silly about what they class.
[1292.15] Frank: Like, is a drawing describing an assembly mechanism or interface?
[1299.15] Frank: Is that going to let you reverse engineer the things that are on either side of it?
[1304.15] Frank: No, it's not.
[1306.15] Frank: But they get very, very, very tricky about things like that.
[1312.15] Curry: I think they write how many teraflops a computer has allowed
[1316.15] Curry: before it's considered a supercomputer,
[1318.15] Curry: which you're not allowed to ship to filthy countries as well.
[1321.15] Curry: But, of course, you just put a rack of pies together in a cluster
[1325.15] Curry: and you're kind of there.
[1327.15] Tony: I remember when PlayStation 4 came out, it was a thing.
[1333.15] Tony: You can't send these to some countries because they could take them apart
[1337.15] Tony: and use them to guide missiles.
[1339.15] Tony: I was like, oh, my God.
[1341.15] Curry: That was good for Sony.
[1343.15] Curry: I'm pretty sure Sony put that one out as their own little press thing.
[1348.15] Frank: I remember PlayStation being used to build supercomputers, though.
[1352.15] Curry: Back on the PlayStation 3 when you were allowed to run Linux on it
[1356.15] Curry: and then they took it away and there was the whole massive PlayStation Sony hack
[1361.15] Curry: and they really got very upset about not being able to run Linux on it.
[1364.15] Curry: But there were some people, again, had these big clusters of PlayStation 3s.
[1369.15] Frank: By everybody, who do you mean?
[1371.15] Curry: All three of you.
[1373.15] Curry: What did I say? Everybody was running it.
[1376.15] Curry: Everybody got upset.
[1378.15] Curry: You know when people get upset, they're the ones that really go ache about it
[1383.15] Curry: and the other people who say, oh, I'm just playing Crash Bandicoot or whatever.
[1387.15] Curry: The people that really wanted to run Linux got really, really upset about it
[1391.15] Curry: because it's not just like you can't take something away.
[1396.15] Curry: They decided it was their right to do it.
[1399.15] Curry: It was really public.
[1401.15] Curry: What happened then was somebody cracked one of the big protections about it
[1406.15] Curry: and he got publicly witch hunted and they started going after people everywhere
[1411.15] Curry: that even touched it and that's when Anonymous jumped on
[1415.15] Curry: and basically brought Sony's servers down worldwide
[1418.15] Curry: and the whole PlayStation network was offline for like two months.
[1422.15] Curry: Basically, when you sign back on, you could click this box that says,
[1425.15] Curry: I agree not to take part in a class action lawsuit
[1428.15] Curry: and I will receive two games for free, which is all right.
[1432.15] Curry: Or you could continue and take them to court if you wanted to.
[1436.15] Jack: Wow.
[1438.15] Jack: God, what was I going to say?
[1440.15] Frank: I'm talking about importing, exporting, moving stuff around the world.
[1446.15] Frank: Things got a bit real the other day.
[1449.15] Frank: I got forwarded on a message by Fraser Steen about CNHL, China Hobby Line,
[1458.15] Frank: saying, no, they're not accepting orders to the UK as of 21st of December
[1464.15] Frank: because Brexit and they didn't know how it was going to work.
[1468.15] Frank: They were saying you could order it from the US,
[1470.15] Frank: but you wouldn't be able to order it from the European warehouse.
[1475.15] Curry: Are they basically saying that whatever they ship from in China
[1479.15] Curry: is under some EU agreement?
[1482.15] Frank: I guess so.
[1483.15] Curry: Therefore, now coming into the UK is different. That's weird.
[1486.15] Frank: But as of 5 o'clock-ish today, there's some kind of deal.
[1491.15] Frank: I don't think anyone has read it because it's like 60 pages long,
[1494.15] Frank: but there's something.
[1496.15] Tony: It didn't take long, did it?
[1498.15] Tony: Something to do with fishing.
[1503.15] Jack: It's amazing what can get done when you've got so many lorries kicking around.
[1510.15] Frank: Served on a bed of lettuce, yeah.
[1512.15] Jack: And they've run out of Brussels sprouts.
[1515.15] Curry: Yeah.
[1516.15] Curry: That can't be seen as a bad thing. Nobody likes Brussels sprouts.
[1519.15] Tony: Oh, I love a Brussels sprout.
[1522.15] Tony: I've bought some for Christmas.
[1525.15] Curry: Your options are more limited because you don't eat regular food.
[1530.15] Tony: It's all regular. Let's not go there tonight.
[1533.15] Tony: I'm not old.
[1535.15] Tony: I would literally just leave and go and drink the beer downstairs
[1538.15] Tony: while watching a Christmas film.
[1543.15] Tony: Anyway, yes.
[1545.15] Tony: But I can't have too many sprouts.
[1547.15] Jack: That's what I was going to say.
[1550.15] Jack: The reason the PlayStation was sold with Linux
[1553.15] Jack: was so that they could circumnavigate.
[1556.15] Jack: It wasn't a games console. It was an educational computer or something.
[1560.15] Jack: And then they got like a tax relief.
[1563.15] Jack: And that's why it was sold with Linux, the PlayStation 2.
[1568.15] Jack: And then they got Wwise to it.
[1571.15] Tony: There you go.
[1572.15] Tony: Wynn Davis has deep fried battered sprouts.
[1576.15] Curry: I think Wynn may actually be Scottish instead of Welsh.
[1580.15] Curry: Deep fried.
[1582.15] Tony: He's nearer than us.
[1585.15] Tony: I actually went flying.
[1588.15] Tony: I flew my Tom Hawke.
[1591.15] Tony: Yes, I flew my Tom Hawke.
[1593.15] Tony: I got the tune really nice.
[1595.15] Tony: And now I'm getting 12 minutes out of it on the tri-blades.
[1599.15] Tony: I bought some dual blades, but they were the wrong pitch.
[1602.15] Tony: They were too high.
[1603.15] Tony: They just literally came to a battery worse than the tri-blades.
[1608.15] Curry: So did you change batteries or anything?
[1610.15] Curry: Or is this just because the tune is better now?
[1612.15] Tony: Just because the tune's better.
[1613.15] Tony: And I think it was a bit warmer.
[1615.15] Tony: Because every flight I'd done was like 2 degrees.
[1618.15] Tony: And then I flew at 10 degrees.
[1621.15] Tony: So I got 12 minutes because of the tune.
[1624.15] Tony: And maybe because the weather was a bit warmer.
[1628.15] Frank: Is this still on emu?
[1631.15] Tony: Yeah.
[1633.15] Tony: And this is the first time I've tuned a quadrant nicely.
[1637.15] Tony: And it didn't take too long either.
[1640.15] Tony: I think I charged my battery three or four times, I think.
[1645.15] Tony: I was probably out there two hours giving it a tune.
[1649.15] Tony: I still think it needs a little bit of your done on it.
[1653.15] Tony: But I think Martin can probably go and get some cut and start selling them now.
[1659.15] Tony: I'm happy with it.
[1662.15] Tony: And if I can, I'm going to fly it over however long I've got off.
[1669.15] Tony: And go and try to do some actual long range flying.
[1674.15] Tony: But within visual line of sight.
[1677.15] Frank: Is this why Martin was messaging me the other day about questions about visual line of sight?
[1682.15] Tony: Maybe.
[1684.15] Tony: Yeah.
[1686.15] Frank: Sounds interesting.
[1688.15] Frank: What you're planning.
[1690.15] Frank: Sounds fun.
[1692.15] Frank: I look forward to hearing about it in more detail.
[1695.15] Tony: Okay.
[1696.15] Frank: We will let you in on the secrets.
[1716.15] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits.
[1719.15] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com forward slash let's drone out.
[1724.15] Curry: And you'll see.
[1726.15] Curry: Cold weather and batteries.
[1729.15] Curry: I can't remember what show it was.
[1731.15] Curry: I think they were trying to sort of track polar bears or something.
[1734.15] Curry: They're like, let's use a drone.
[1736.15] Curry: And they put it up in the air and it just literally went back down again.
[1740.15] Curry: Because it was so cold that the batteries just lasted about a minute.
[1744.15] Curry: And just dumped back into the ice.
[1746.15] Tony: I've got given a battery warmer the other day by our friend from Top Gear, Andrew Lawrence.
[1753.15] Tony: When it gave me a load of stuff for my Inspire.
[1756.15] Tony: It comes with a battery warmer.
[1758.15] Tony: Basically you just plug it into this unit.
[1762.15] Tony: And the battery plugs in and then you just turn the battery on.
[1766.15] Tony: And it heats up the unit in there.
[1769.15] Tony: And then it heats the whole battery.
[1772.15] Tony: Takes about 10 minutes and it gets up to a good temperature.
[1775.15] Tony: And then you can just go fly.
[1777.15] Jack: I was happy about that.
[1779.15] Jack: It's good.
[1781.15] Jack: The old ethics pack.
[1783.15] Frank: I think we should put a call out for New Year's Eve.
[1790.15] Frank: I think we should invite on.
[1792.15] Tony: Yeah, we ought to come on New Year's Eve, aren't we?
[1795.15] Tony: I'm normally out partying and stuff.
[1797.15] Frank: I was thinking, I think we should invite everyone on.
[1801.15] Tony: What is everyone?
[1803.15] Tony: We've done that before and they're all too scared to come.
[1807.15] Jack: I'm thinking painless, winter blue and Aries.
[1811.15] Jack: Do you not think they'll have better things to do?
[1814.15] Jack: They might do, they probably will.
[1817.15] Jack: But I think that would be a good challenge.
[1820.15] Tony: Right, there's 40 unbelievably on a Christmas Eve.
[1824.15] Tony: Okay, it's gone down to 39 as I said.
[1827.15] Tony: There's 39 people in the chat, right?
[1829.15] Tony: Frank, ask, see if one of them will come on now.
[1834.15] Tony: I bet no one would say yes.
[1837.15] Curry: That's not true.
[1839.15] Curry: When would come on?
[1841.15] Jack: I know.
[1843.15] Jack: I fixed the PlayStation 1.
[1845.15] Jack: A fusing blow on it.
[1847.15] Jack: For the gift drive.
[1850.15] Curry: Look, there's a hand coming in shot.
[1853.15] Curry: Look at that.
[1855.15] Jack: Here on cue.
[1857.15] Jack: Soph, thank you.
[1860.15] Jack: I feel very grateful.
[1862.15] Jack: That's all you're getting.
[1864.15] Jack: That was Pepper.
[1866.15] Jack: Hello, Pepper.
[1868.15] Jack: She's not there anymore.
[1870.15] Jack: Did the repair I do work, all right?
[1875.15] Tony: Work's fine.
[1877.15] Tony: Mind you, I flew in that spot the other day, exactly the same spot.
[1881.15] Tony: And I was getting no red lights.
[1884.15] Tony: On DJI cam, you get a couple of red things in the bottom left.
[1893.15] Tony: And I was flying around and I was getting three.
[1896.15] Tony: But I think it still works.
[1898.15] Tony: I just think I was on a different channel, so there might have been.
[1901.15] Tony: There was houses behind me, so there might have been houses affecting me.
[1906.15] Tony: Last time I was on channel one.
[1909.15] Jack: I missed that.
[1911.15] Jack: Going on Twitter and typing in drone.
[1914.15] Jack: Every tweet that was drawn.
[1917.15] Jack: But the pictures of the screaming kids who have lost like a 400 pound drone.
[1922.15] Curry: This was Robin FPV's little comment.
[1925.15] Curry: It says, only one more until national lost mandate.
[1928.15] Curry: It must be really interesting.
[1930.15] Curry: There's statistics about kids or adults just getting out of the box.
[1933.15] Curry: Look what I got.
[1935.15] Curry: They're going to the door and hit themselves in the head.
[1938.15] Curry: There's these things that are marketed towards kids.
[1941.15] Curry: They're like these little sort of fairies that spin around.
[1944.15] Curry: They're basically wearing a helicopter, which is deadly dangerous for the hair.
[1948.15] Curry: And like, you know, just DJI is going offwards back to China.
[1952.15] Jack: Have you seen the dancing fairy thing that goes, the kid sets it off
[1957.15] Jack: and it just goes into the chimney and it's just on fire?
[1962.15] Jack: I guess I hate children.
[1967.15] Jack: Just like seeing them upset.
[1971.15] Jack: That's what you get.
[1972.15] Jack: I was abused.
[1973.15] Jack: You'd be unhappy.
[1975.15] Tony: I'm waiting for a donation.
[1977.15] Tony: I've got my...
[1979.15] Jack: I'm on a gun.
[1982.15] Jack: Everyone's saving it for the post-apocalyptic Brexit slash tearful disaster.
[1990.15] Tony: I am rumors that tear five might happen, which is literally...
[1994.15] Jack: Tear five is where they pump gas directly into our houses just to kill us all off.
[1999.15] Jack: It just kills us off a solid green.
[2003.15] Jack: Jesus.
[2006.15] Jack: I don't know what I'm looking forward to.
[2008.15] Frank: Maybe that's what the drone corridor is all about, really.
[2011.15] Frank: It's setting up all these beaver last year.
[2014.15] Frank: It's just going to have to be like chemtrails.
[2017.15] Frank: It's just spraying horrific things.
[2022.15] Frank: Merry Christmas.
[2023.15] Jack: Merry Christmas, chaps, how are you?
[2026.15] Jack: Right.
[2027.15] Jack: Someone who does a solo podcast and could talk about drone content because you have to.
[2034.15] Wyntrblue: Can I?
[2035.15] Wyntrblue: Can I?
[2036.15] Tony: Can you though?
[2037.15] Tony: Go.
[2038.15] Wyntrblue: Go.
[2039.15] Wyntrblue: Talk about something now.
[2040.15] Wyntrblue: Talk about something now.
[2042.15] Wyntrblue: Have you seen my pink wing?
[2044.15] Wyntrblue: I have a wing on pink.
[2046.15] Wyntrblue: It's not pink enough.
[2048.15] Frank: It looks very pink.
[2050.15] Frank: It looks nice though.
[2052.15] Wyntrblue: It's getting there slowly.
[2054.15] Wyntrblue: It's a lot of work still to do.
[2056.15] Wyntrblue: But yeah, pink wing.
[2058.15] Wyntrblue: There you go.
[2059.15] Wyntrblue: Talk about something that flies.
[2060.15] Wyntrblue: There you go.
[2061.15] Wyntrblue: Something that flies.
[2062.15] Tony: It's a track, isn't it?
[2065.15] Tony: It's a minidrack.
[2066.15] Curry: You didn't like launching wings because they were difficult.
[2070.15] Curry: So you bought a minidrack, which is traditionally not the easiest thing to launch, I have to say.
[2076.15] Curry: And fast.
[2077.15] Wyntrblue: I have a habit of going all in with things.
[2080.15] Wyntrblue: So if I'm going to do something, I do it properly.
[2083.15] Wyntrblue: So why not crash?
[2085.15] Wyntrblue: What's going to amount to about 600 pounds worth of kit into the ground?
[2090.15] Tony: Why not?
[2091.15] Wyntrblue: If you do analog.
[2093.15] Wyntrblue: I'm sorry.
[2094.15] Wyntrblue: I don't know what that is.
[2095.15] Wyntrblue: It doesn't do analog anymore.
[2098.15] Wyntrblue: Give me a second.
[2101.15] Wyntrblue: I need to close the door and then I can tell you guys something.
[2104.15] Wyntrblue: But I do have to close this door.
[2106.15] Wyntrblue: He's got a secret life.
[2109.15] Frank: No, it's about my kid.
[2111.15] Frank: You've bought yourself or is this a Christmas present?
[2114.15] Wyntrblue: It's a Christmas present for my kid.
[2116.15] Wyntrblue: So I've got to be quiet in case you can hear me.
[2118.15] Wyntrblue: But I've bought him a tiny hawk ready to fly bundle.
[2121.15] Wyntrblue: So I actually do have analog kit in the house.
[2124.15] Jack: I'm not too good for your child.
[2130.15] Tony: He doesn't know how to use streaming tools and can watch this later.
[2135.15] Wyntrblue: He doesn't have any access to the Internet on his own.
[2138.15] Wyntrblue: So we're all good.
[2140.15] Wyntrblue: Sometimes he can't hear me now.
[2141.15] Wyntrblue: We're all fine.
[2142.15] Jack: I wonder if there's like a, you know,
[2145.15] Jack: adult filter on the Internet.
[2147.15] Jack: And if it's not his computer, it's just that it's thrown out.
[2151.15] Jack: No.
[2153.15] Wyntrblue: I don't know.
[2154.15] Wyntrblue: When he's here,
[2155.15] Wyntrblue: he doesn't have access to the Internet directly because he has to use my stuff.
[2158.15] Wyntrblue: When he's at his parent, his mum's house, who gives a shit.
[2164.15] Tony: So what you put in your mini-drack?
[2168.15] Wyntrblue: What's going in the mini-drack?
[2171.15] Wyntrblue: Maytech F405, Maytech GPS, DGIA unit, some motor and an AEM PSC.
[2179.15] Tony: He's going for the AEM unit over the...
[2184.15] Wyntrblue: Over the Vista.
[2187.15] Wyntrblue: Yes, because the Vista runs way hotter.
[2192.59] Tony: Okay.
[2194.59] Tony: Because I put the AEM unit in one of my drums and kind of wished I put the Vista in.
[2201.59] Tony: I hate the antenna.
[2205.59] Tony: Push the antennas in and they literally pop out.
[2209.59] Wyntrblue: What I have in mind for this is,
[2211.59] Wyntrblue: as soon as Menis RC actually have them in stock,
[2214.59] Wyntrblue: I'm going to put a pair of Aeropods at the front.
[2217.59] Tony: Nice, yeah.
[2218.59] Wyntrblue: So that's the plan, but they don't have them in left-hand polarised in stock.
[2223.59] Frank: No, not yet.
[2225.59] Wyntrblue: It's kind of annoying, so...
[2228.59] Tony: I was sent a lovely new jacket from Menis RC.
[2232.59] Tony: I was having a poo day and my van broke down
[2235.59] Tony: and I got home and had a lovely jacket.
[2238.59] Tony: I went to the shops the other day and I was fully Menist up.
[2241.59] Tony: I had my Menis mask, my Menis hat and then my new Menis jacket.
[2245.59] Frank: Can we go and show off your jacket, Tony?
[2247.59] Tony: I can do. It's downstairs.
[2250.59] Jack: I can't wait for the Mini Air Show,
[2252.59] Jack: so him and Mikey Dread can have a little catwalk and do the blue deal.
[2258.59] Frank: We will.
[2260.59] Frank: There is a Mini Air Show meeting planned.
[2265.59] Curry: Why not, Colin?
[2267.59] Curry: What's that going to take the shape of?
[2269.59] Curry: I wonder what's going to happen.
[2271.59] Frank: Who knows?
[2272.59] Curry: We've got ideas.
[2274.59] Curry: We've got ideas about a venue.
[2276.59] Curry: Yeah.
[2277.59] Curry: Anything you can talk about?
[2279.59] UNKNOWN: No.
[2280.59] Jack: Boo.
[2281.59] Jack: If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
[2284.59] Jack: There's Dom Plait, emailed you all, Frank.
[2288.59] Jack: Dom...
[2290.59] Jack: TT&S, my friend. TT&S.
[2292.59] Frank: As in Dom Robinson?
[2294.59] Frank: Very different Dom.
[2295.59] Jack: Different Dom.
[2296.59] Jack: Very nice, Tony.
[2298.59] Jack: Shout.
[2299.59] Jack: He's a perhaps security guard, doesn't he?
[2302.59] Jack: He just needs...
[2303.59] Jack: He just needs his butt off.
[2305.59] Jack: Sorry.
[2307.59] Curry: Are they also available in chat, I suppose, Tony, or just for children?
[2311.59] Tony: You won't be getting one with that attitude, young man.
[2314.59] Tony: Oh, sorry, old man.
[2316.59] Wyntrblue: You know, you said you were having trouble with your van.
[2319.59] Wyntrblue: Yes.
[2320.59] Wyntrblue: So, beginning of this month,
[2322.59] Wyntrblue: my long-standing Mini decided it didn't want to work anymore
[2326.59] Wyntrblue: and died horribly.
[2328.59] Wyntrblue: So I went and bought a new car
[2330.59] Wyntrblue: and, guess what, I crashed it a week ago.
[2333.59] Jack: What? No!
[2336.59] Wyntrblue: Was it your fault that you crashed?
[2339.59] Wyntrblue: Yeah, I drove into a wall.
[2341.59] Jack: Jesus.
[2342.59] Jack: Ow!
[2343.59] Jack: Ow!
[2344.59] Tony: Well done.
[2346.59] Tony: Well done.
[2347.59] Tony: Really?
[2348.59] Tony: Send more fireworks, please.
[2351.59] Wyntrblue: God, I'm tempted to donate myself.
[2354.59] Wyntrblue: Wow, what the hell.
[2356.59] Jack: You see how spooky these guys are?
[2358.59] Jack: They literally... I look like one of those truggos.
[2362.59] Jack: I've now got blim holes in my...
[2365.59] Jack: pyjamas.
[2366.59] Jack: Not that I'd know what that is, Mum.
[2370.59] Tony: Anyway, my lovely merch jacket is lovely, lovely, lovely.
[2375.59] Tony: Thank you, Greg.
[2376.59] Tony: Is it warm?
[2378.59] Jack: It's very nice and warm.
[2380.59] Jack: Feeling your breasts, Tony.
[2381.59] Jack: Thank God the listeners who pay for the podcast can't see...
[2385.59] Jack: molest yourself.
[2388.59] Jack: Not every Thursday.
[2390.59] Tony: They can if they watch it live.
[2392.59] Jack: Oh my God, I've burnt my leg.
[2394.59] Jack: Thanks, Mum.
[2396.59] Curry: I think your mum did that on purpose. Well done.
[2399.59] Tony: Winter blue, burn baby, burn.
[2401.59] Tony: Thanks, winter blue.
[2406.59] Tony: Only to help Jack.
[2407.59] Wyntrblue: I'm just slightly cruel, that's all.
[2409.59] Curry: I think that's what a set fire to Tony's harmonica in some way.
[2413.59] Wyntrblue: I know you know some things, but that doesn't matter.
[2418.59] Wyntrblue: I'll make sure you get punished.
[2421.59] Jack: I doubt it.
[2423.59] Jack: Burn all the things.
[2425.59] Jack: I'm moving further away from these.
[2427.59] Jack: These are deadly as f***.
[2429.59] Jack: Yes.
[2431.59] Tony: Have you seen this?
[2432.59] Jack: My operation has jumped off.
[2434.59] Jack: I know.
[2435.59] Tony: They're not definitely not in...
[2438.59] Jack: I know my screen on my phone.
[2441.59] Jack: Oh my God.
[2444.59] Jack: I'm sorry.
[2447.59] Wyntrblue: This is so entertaining.
[2449.59] Wyntrblue: I think this is just really entertaining watching you set fire to yourself.
[2453.59] Jack: How?
[2455.59] Jack: There's a scorch mark on my thumb.
[2459.59] Tony: Not as bad as the mum I had, if you remember, about a year back.
[2463.59] Jack: Yeah, that was horrendous.
[2466.59] Jack: Literally burned my thumb.
[2468.59] Jack: These are deadly.
[2470.59] Jack: Keep away from clothing and skin.
[2476.06] Jack: Thank you.
[2479.06] Jack: That's all right.
[2480.06] Jack: I just actually totally burnt my leg.
[2483.06] Curry: It's pretty bad though.
[2485.06] Jack: No, no, no.
[2486.06] Jack: They're just like little, but thanks.
[2488.06] Jack: More or less than like soldier's batter.
[2491.06] Jack: How?
[2492.06] Jack: Yeah.
[2493.06] Wyntrblue: Spattery.
[2495.06] Wyntrblue: Sorry.
[2496.06] Jack: I've got a story about a soldier's batter.
[2498.06] Wyntrblue: Oh yeah.
[2499.06] Wyntrblue: Many, many millions of years ago when I was a youth and I was doing an
[2503.06] Wyntrblue: apprenticeship in mechanical engineering, which I never took anywhere.
[2507.06] Wyntrblue: The company I was apprenticing with made machines that made printed
[2513.06] Wyntrblue: circuit boards.
[2514.06] Wyntrblue: And one of the tests they did was to melt like a massive drum full of solder
[2519.06] Wyntrblue: in these machines.
[2520.06] Wyntrblue: And I mean like kilograms and kilograms of solder.
[2525.06] Wyntrblue: Wave, solder wave.
[2527.06] Wyntrblue: Like ingots of solder.
[2530.06] Jack: Okay.
[2531.06] Wyntrblue: They used to put them in these machines that melted down.
[2533.06] Wyntrblue: Then they'd dip circuit boards in them to coat them in solder.
[2537.06] Wyntrblue: In them?
[2538.06] Wyntrblue: Yeah, that's it.
[2540.06] Wyntrblue: And the guy who was testing them, what you had to do is once it melted,
[2545.06] Wyntrblue: you had to pour grease over the top of the solder so it didn't oxidize.
[2549.06] Wyntrblue: And the grease that we had was like a very runny, clear liquid.
[2553.06] Wyntrblue: And you used to go and get it out of a barrel and put it in a paper cup and
[2556.06] Wyntrblue: you take it over and you pour it over the solder and everything's good.
[2559.06] Wyntrblue: So I can see where this is going.
[2562.06] Wyntrblue: And someone swapped this guy's paper cup full of grease with a paper cup full
[2567.06] Wyntrblue: of water as a prank.
[2569.06] Wyntrblue: And he poured this paper cup full of water over 230 degrees centigrade solder
[2574.06] Wyntrblue: or whatever it was, which then exploded in his face.
[2577.06] Wyntrblue: And he literally went to the hospital looking just like the tin man.
[2581.06] Wyntrblue: It's the funniest thing I've ever seen.
[2584.06] Wyntrblue: Wow.
[2585.06] Tony: That doesn't sound that funny.
[2588.06] Wyntrblue: He sustained exactly zero injuries and was back at work three hours later.
[2593.06] Wyntrblue: Wow.
[2594.06] Wyntrblue: Because by the time the solder had hit him, it had already cooled to the point
[2597.06] Wyntrblue: where it wasn't going to harm him.
[2599.06] Wyntrblue: Sort of might not affect, but...
[2601.06] Wyntrblue: It was amazing.
[2603.06] Wyntrblue: Obviously the most amazing thing I've ever seen.
[2606.06] Jack: Is that the tip of your hand in water and you can pour it into...
[2609.06] Jack: put it into, like, anything?
[2612.06] Jack: What?
[2614.06] Frank: You can stick your hand in liquid nitrogen if you're quick as well.
[2617.06] Frank: I've done that before.
[2618.06] Curry: Yeah.
[2619.06] Curry: But that's because it sort of instantly boils, doesn't it?
[2622.06] Curry: But if you leave it long enough...
[2624.06] Tony: It's the same as walking over hot coals.
[2627.06] Wyntrblue: I don't know.
[2629.06] Wyntrblue: I'd be up for that, walking over hot coals.
[2632.06] Tony: Okay, let's start thinking up.
[2635.06] Tony: I want to say this.
[2636.06] Frank: We're sitting on the wish list for mini-asho, shall we?
[2639.06] Wyntrblue: If I'm going to do that, though, we need to raise money for something important.
[2642.06] Wyntrblue: So, yeah.
[2643.06] Wyntrblue: But I'm up for it, but needs to be raising money for something.
[2646.06] Wyntrblue: You'll probably be the same job as your way afterwards.
[2650.06] Wyntrblue: Yeah, probably.
[2652.06] Wyntrblue: Yeah, I'm up for that.
[2653.06] Jack: Mental health, I think.
[2655.06] Jack: We can speak to...
[2657.06] Jack: We should speak to, I don't know, mind or someone.
[2661.06] Jack: See whether they'll be there.
[2664.06] Curry: I'd be behind someone raising money for charity by doing something mental.
[2669.06] Curry: For a mental charity.
[2671.06] Curry: Don't like it when they call it mental.
[2673.06] Curry: Okay.
[2674.06] Wyntrblue: What better reason is there to do something crazy than for charity?
[2678.06] Jack: It's not crazy.
[2679.06] Jack: How do you make charity?
[2680.06] Jack: Exciting.
[2681.06] Jack: I don't like the word crazy or mental.
[2684.06] Jack: They don't like things that are eccentric.
[2687.06] Jack: The eccentric, I think, is all right.
[2689.06] Jack: Okay, good.
[2690.06] Frank: You could see it as going, you know, success through adversity, kind of,
[2698.06] Frank: triumphing over adversity.
[2700.06] Wyntrblue: I think, to be honest, we should get the whole of the LDO crew to do something
[2704.06] Wyntrblue: like that as a big thing.
[2706.06] Wyntrblue: Oh, I'll walk.
[2707.06] Wyntrblue: I'll walk, of course.
[2709.06] Wyntrblue: It doesn't matter.
[2711.06] Wyntrblue: We need to get the whole of LDO to do something really out there
[2717.06] Wyntrblue: to raise loads of money for charity.
[2720.06] Tony: Yeah, I'm here.
[2722.06] Tony: Look, I'll carry Kitten's face.
[2724.06] Wyntrblue: It's brilliant, by the way.
[2726.06] Tony: Well, can we come and have a walk at the moment?
[2729.06] Curry: I use my crutches.
[2731.06] Curry: I just...
[2733.06] Curry: Why am I not just shaving all my hair?
[2735.06] Jack: Sky guy, no.
[2737.06] Jack: And then having a blue Tony.
[2739.06] Curry: I think we could all get behind that one.
[2741.06] Curry: Let's do a hair transplant, Jack to Tony.
[2744.06] Curry: I'm using hot glue.
[2747.06] Tony: Hot glue.
[2749.06] Tony: I've got hair.
[2751.06] Tony: I literally can grow it.
[2753.06] Tony: I just...
[2754.06] Tony: This is how I like it.
[2756.06] Wyntrblue: I can't grow hair and I really wish I could.
[2759.06] Wyntrblue: I grow it.
[2761.06] Tony: I look like Jack.
[2763.06] Tony: Actually, my hair grows up.
[2768.06] Tony: So, yeah.
[2769.06] Tony: I can still grow hair, thank you very much.
[2771.06] Tony: Team skydive.
[2773.06] Tony: Oh, my God, can you imagine us, look, jumping out of a plane?
[2776.06] Tony: Do you know?
[2777.06] Tony: I would love to jump out of a plane, but I would literally be pooping it.
[2781.06] Curry: That's half the fun, isn't it?
[2783.06] Curry: The thing with sponsored skydives is
[2785.06] Curry: they raise less money than all the treatment it's taken
[2789.06] Curry: because of the injuries sustained by people doing charity skydives.
[2793.06] Tony: Is that for real?
[2794.06] Curry: That is a real fact.
[2795.06] Tony: Well, I'm definitely not doing it now.
[2797.06] Curry: No, we're not really helping.
[2799.06] Curry: We're just hurting.
[2802.06] Wyntrblue: I'm sure we can think of something.
[2805.06] Jack: Going to a swimming pool with an already tall diving court
[2809.06] Jack: and then do the whole this is spa and kick each other off.
[2815.06] Frank: I'd still quite like to do the long-distance relay of flying, relay flight.
[2827.06] Frank: Always being within 500 meters, but have two or three teams
[2832.06] Frank: each with their own car, leapfrogging each other to be there
[2837.06] Frank: and then handing it over between you so that you can do it.
[2840.06] Wyntrblue: How would you have over control?
[2843.06] Frank: Have diversity on receivers.
[2846.06] Frank: You've got one receiver and the other receiver.
[2848.06] Frank: You need a flight controller in there
[2851.06] Frank: that's got a little bit of sensibility to be able to do some way pointing.
[2856.06] Curry: Can't access to multiple radios to a single receiver or something.
[2861.06] Wyntrblue: Yeah.
[2866.06] Wyntrblue: But how would that work if you've got a radio that's,
[2868.06] Wyntrblue: you've got two radios talking to one receiver,
[2870.06] Wyntrblue: one of them say at 100% throttle, the other one's at zero.
[2873.06] Wyntrblue: Which one's it going to listen to?
[2877.06] Wyntrblue: How do you manage that?
[2879.06] Curry: This is just details.
[2881.06] Curry: Oh, look at that. There's some merch for you.
[2886.06] Jack: Show the people.
[2889.06] Tony: Show it off first before you rack around your neck.
[2892.06] Tony: I don't know. He's modeling.
[2895.06] Tony: Oh, look. It's even got...
[2898.06] Tony: That's nice, that.
[2899.06] Tony: Lovely.
[2900.06] Wyntrblue: Everyone should go and buy LDO merch right now.
[2903.06] Wyntrblue: Well, not right now.
[2904.06] Wyntrblue: We'll show you in 10 minutes.
[2906.06] Wyntrblue: Hold on as well.
[2909.06] Jack: So I think we've got the ******* on up.
[2911.06] Frank: Yeah.
[2912.06] Frank: No, I think the ******* was on the Christmas jumper,
[2915.06] Frank: but Christmas jumper isn't happening.
[2917.06] Frank: Not this year, but...
[2920.06] Frank: Moving back to drone news.
[2923.06] Frank: I don't know if anyone still follows any brain FPV stuff,
[2926.06] Frank: but they've released the Radix 2.
[2930.06] Frank: Just 8.7 USB-C fantasy stuff.
[2935.06] Frank: Well, yeah, I'd say fantasy stuff.
[2937.06] Wyntrblue: I must say, I'm overwhelmed with met about that,
[2940.06] Wyntrblue: hot about that completely.
[2942.06] Wyntrblue: It just doesn't tick any boxes for me at all.
[2946.06] Wyntrblue: Sorry, Radix.
[2948.06] Tony: Has it got a physical button to put it in the DFU?
[2952.06] Tony: I'm going, yeah, I'm going.
[2955.06] Tony: Yes.
[2956.06] Curry: Everything in the last six years.
[2959.06] Frank: That one there, Tony.
[2961.06] Curry: Are these the brain ones?
[2962.06] Curry: Are these the ones that have the sort of the very flashy OSD
[2965.06] Curry: gubbins?
[2966.06] Curry: Is that their main thing?
[2968.06] Curry: So Winter wouldn't be interested in it anyway,
[2970.06] Curry: because he doesn't do the beta flight FPV on his special
[2973.06] Curry: goggles.
[2975.06] Curry: I don't do beta flight at all, to be fair.
[2977.06] Curry: It does feel like DJI is still lacking a bit in the OSD
[2982.06] Curry: department.
[2983.06] Curry: It's still a bit sort of, we'll kind of do what we want to do
[2987.06] Curry: if you're going to pass enough back to us.
[2991.06] Curry: It would be nice if you could sort of arrange a proper
[2993.06] Curry: OSD nicely, wouldn't it?
[2995.06] Curry: Well, you can.
[2996.06] Wyntrblue: You can use the beta flight.
[2997.06] Wyntrblue: You can use the beta flight OSD configurator to move custom
[3000.06] Wyntrblue: elements around.
[3001.06] Wyntrblue: And that doesn't move them around in the goggles,
[3003.06] Wyntrblue: but you don't have all of the elements,
[3005.06] Wyntrblue: which is really annoying, especially if you want to use
[3009.06] Wyntrblue: iNav.
[3010.06] Wyntrblue: That really irks me immensely.
[3013.06] Wyntrblue: So like auto-tune and auto-trim, there's no way to bring back
[3018.06] Wyntrblue: those notifications to the goggles.
[3019.06] Curry: You really want that when you're flying your wing,
[3021.06] Curry: because you need to know if the auto-trim is on or not,
[3024.06] Curry: because you have to then sort of land with a tremendous arm
[3027.06] Jack: or something.
[3028.06] Jack: You can use the buzzer, but you'd have to be like listening.
[3033.06] Jack: Have we spoke about the flash or the DJI flash?
[3037.06] Jack: What's that?
[3038.06] Jack: Nope.
[3039.06] Jack: You know what?
[3040.06] Jack: New thing.
[3041.06] Curry: We're like an hour in, and then you're suddenly like,
[3043.06] Curry: have we ever done a DJI thing that no one's ever heard of?
[3046.06] Tony: No, we've never.
[3047.06] Curry: Yeah, we can't wait to talk about it.
[3048.06] Jack: What do you want to know?
[3050.06] Jack: Flash sale, you mean?
[3052.06] Jack: Hello.
[3053.06] Jack: I'm live on Let's Throw Now.
[3055.06] Jack: Oh, I am sorry, mate.
[3057.06] Jack: Why aren't you watching?
[3059.06] Jack: Why aren't you watching?
[3061.06] Jack: I will come and watch.
[3062.06] Jack: Can I ask you something really quick?
[3064.06] Jack: No.
[3065.06] Jack: You know you want to mute this.
[3067.06] Jack: I can't give you a George Raft Christmas session.
[3070.06] Jack: I don't have my PC with me.
[3072.06] Jack: I'm so sorry.
[3074.06] Jack: Look, I'll call you back in two minutes.
[3078.06] Curry: What I like about Jack is he's such a professional when it comes to podcasts.
[3082.06] Tony: I've just literally got a call from one of my friends,
[3086.06] Tony: and I've declined it because I was live on air.
[3089.06] Jack: I'm not used to streaming on my MacBook,
[3093.06] Jack: and basically it just slid this screen across.
[3098.06] Jack: It wouldn't go away.
[3100.06] Jack: I just had to answer it.
[3102.06] Jack: I didn't know what to do.
[3104.06] Wyntrblue: Ignore it.
[3106.06] Wyntrblue: I would happily move to an LDO mansion,
[3108.06] Wyntrblue: especially if it was like the island of Thunderbirds.
[3110.06] Wyntrblue: Yeah, but you all...
[3112.06] Tony: Tracey, I want to ask...
[3114.06] Tony: Who has to wear a dressing ground?
[3116.06] Jack: An LDO dressing room?
[3118.06] Jack: I'm wronged down with that,
[3120.06] Jack: but who would get Miss Penelope,
[3123.06] Jack: and would I be the driver of that guy?
[3127.06] Tony: I look more like the driver.
[3129.06] Tony: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[3130.06] Jack: Parker.
[3132.06] Tony: Okay, yeah.
[3133.06] Jack: Which Thunderbird would I be in charge of?
[3136.06] Jack: Would it be number two that has to give birth to number two?
[3140.06] Jack: Definitely number two, Jack.
[3142.06] Jack: Or would I be five because you've all got sick of me and sent me to space?
[3146.06] Tony: No, it would be number two because you know everything about number two.
[3151.06] Jack: Yeah, I thought.
[3154.06] Jack: I think Frank would be number five.
[3157.06] Jack: Curry, you're definitely number four.
[3160.06] Curry: I can't remember which one.
[3162.06] Curry: Everybody liked number two.
[3164.06] Curry: You'll be inside me.
[3166.06] Frank: I can't remember what four was.
[3168.06] Frank: Who fours the yellow submarine?
[3170.06] Wyntrblue: I do like underwater things.
[3172.06] Wyntrblue: I've got a yellow submarine.
[3174.06] Frank: There you go.
[3176.06] Frank: My Thunderbird's Christmas jumper.
[3178.06] Wyntrblue: There you go.
[3180.06] Wyntrblue: A yellow submarine.
[3182.06] Wyntrblue: Is that Lego?
[3184.06] Wyntrblue: It is Lego.
[3186.06] Jack: Lego.
[3188.06] Frank: That's Thunderbird four.
[3190.06] Jack: Yeah.
[3192.06] Jack: Oh, now I remember it.
[3194.06] Jack: Weird scoop at the front.
[3196.06] Curry: If I remember from the title screen, whenever Thunderbird two went, they had this conveyor belt of those containers.
[3200.06] Curry: And if you're old enough to remember at school, the beautiful die-cast Thunderbird twos some rich kids used to have.
[3207.06] Curry: They used to have the little pop-out container used to then open up and Thunderbird four would come out.
[3212.06] Curry: But sometimes they wouldn't select it in the show.
[3215.06] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[3217.06] Jack: Frank would be brains, wouldn't he?
[3219.06] Jack: N.J. would be Thunderbird three.
[3221.06] Jack: Because, you know, space.
[3223.06] Jack: He's the liaison officer.
[3227.06] Jack: So, Natalie's Andy RC is Thunderbird one.
[3234.34] Curry: That's a weird conversation.
[3236.34] Curry: I don't think we've hit the demographic here with Thunderbirds.
[3240.34] Curry: Tony would be driver blue owl.
[3243.34] Jack: Yeah.
[3245.34] Tony: I'm Parker.
[3247.34] Tony: Yeah.
[3249.34] Tony: I'm Tony.
[3251.34] Jack: I'm a lady.
[3253.34] Curry: I know.
[3255.34] Jack: You're in the need of tunes.
[3257.34] Jack: She'll.
[3259.34] Jack: From this day forward, she demands that you refer to her as my lady.
[3263.34] Jack: Now.
[3265.34] Jack: Yes, lady.
[3267.34] Tony: I'll say it.
[3270.72] Frank: If I remember.
[3272.72] Tony: You guys.
[3274.72] Tony: I can't believe it.
[3276.72] Tony: We've got forty one people watching live.
[3278.72] Tony: Thanks very much.
[3280.72] Tony: Christmas Eve.
[3282.72] Curry: Yeah.
[3284.72] Curry: Christmas bake off for this.
[3286.72] Wyntrblue: Wow.
[3288.72] Wyntrblue: There's no contest there.
[3290.72] Frank: You guys are way more entertaining than bake off.
[3292.72] Jack: Yeah.
[3294.72] Jack: The bake off would ever be interesting.
[3298.72] Jack: To actually dunk his penis into things.
[3302.72] Jack: That's how he tastes things.
[3306.72] Jack: Or if they made flying bread.
[3308.72] Wyntrblue: We could do that.
[3310.72] Frank: We've got the beer.
[3312.72] Frank: We've got the potato.
[3314.72] Frank: We've got a kit to make anything fly.
[3316.72] Wyntrblue: I think it needs to have breadsticks for arms and stuff.
[3320.72] Wyntrblue: The whole airframe needs to make bread.
[3323.72] Tony: Yeah.
[3325.72] Tony: I think breadsticks would not work.
[3327.72] Tony: That's exactly what.
[3329.72] Tony: The player quad worked.
[3331.72] Tony: But I think breadsticks wouldn't be good as arms.
[3333.72] Tony: Maybe carrots.
[3335.72] Tony: They'd probably work.
[3337.72] Curry: It wouldn't be made of bread then, would it?
[3339.72] Curry: No.
[3341.72] Curry: It's made from food stuff.
[3343.72] Curry: Write this down, Frank.
[3345.72] Curry: Everyone makes a quad out of food.
[3347.72] Curry: I don't know where I'll write that down.
[3349.72] Tony: You've already done that.
[3351.72] Tony: Have you done the side of the potato?
[3355.72] Curry: He did do the flying biscuit.
[3357.72] Curry: No, he did do the flying biscuit.
[3359.72] Curry: But his biscuit wasn't edible.
[3361.72] Curry: He'd have to eat it afterwards.
[3363.72] Curry: He baked it so much that it was so incredibly hard.
[3365.72] Curry: He would have busted all his teeth if he tried to take a bite out of it.
[3369.72] Jack: Yeah.
[3371.72] Jack: I buried most of the potato so we could have a new yield next year.
[3375.72] Jack: LDO baked off.
[3377.72] Jack: Can you imagine?
[3379.72] Jack: MJ's got a server on Discord called Cloudcake or something like that.
[3385.72] Jack: There's Cooking with Fruity.
[3387.72] Jack: There's a channel where you can see all the things that Fruity cooks.
[3392.72] Jack: I wanted master baking with Jack.
[3397.72] Jack: Is it master baking?
[3399.72] Jack: Yeah, master baking with Jack.
[3403.72] Jack: Because it sounds like master baking.
[3405.72] Tony: We all got that.
[3407.72] Tony: You didn't have to go there.
[3408.72] Jack: I just wondered if you were sniped.
[3412.72] Tony: We got it, mate.
[3414.72] Jack: Shall we call it there?
[3417.72] Tony: I think we should.
[3419.72] Tony: We've nothing to talk about all night.
[3421.72] Tony: We should definitely...
[3423.72] Tony: We've talked a lot of the time.
[3425.72] Tony: Chris, New Year's Eve is going to be exactly the same, folks.
[3430.72] Tony: Go out and enjoy your fireworks, don't worry about it.
[3434.72] Jack: Well, no, hopefully we can talk to...
[3438.72] Jack: I had a little bit of a word with Painless.
[3442.72] Jack: Maybe, Winher, you could join us again and we'll nab Aries from the other better podcasts.
[3449.72] Jack: Right, thank you.
[3452.72] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Drone Out.
[3455.72] Jack: We'd like to thank all our Patreons, all our Donators, everyone who's supported and found the show.
[3461.72] Jack: Thank you guys so much, especially in this difficult time.
[3464.72] Jack: We hope that you all know that you're not alone and that at least things could be worse.
[3470.72] Jack: You could be one of us from Let's Drone Out.
[3472.72] Jack: And that, one punch from Let's Drone Out, is everyone's favourite Kerry Kitten.
[3476.72] Jack: Goodbye.
[3478.72] Jack: The little pain in my arse tonestar.
[3482.72] (Patrons): Hello.
[3483.72] Jack: Everyone's favourite, Frank.
[3485.72] (Patrons): Bye.
[3486.72] Jack: And our geeky guest, Winter Blue.
[3490.72] Jack: Ciao.
[3491.72] Jack: And I've been Tony's mum.
[3492.72] Jack: Thank you.
[3493.72] Jack: Goodnight.
[3494.72] (Patrons): Bye.
[3495.72] Curry: Bye.
[3496.72] Curry: Telemetry lost.