=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 295 === Title: LDO 295 - When Kind Of Pigs Kind Of Fly (Kind Of) Recorded: 2021-04-22 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Klaudyna "Kaja" "BlueOwl" Wrochna Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 1,282 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EaYRCAl5Z8); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1035531616-letsdroneout-ldo-295-when-kind-of-pigs-kind-of-fly-kind-of.mp3) ===================================== [0.0] Curry: Welcome to Let's Drone Out, the original and best drone themed podcast. [5.0] Curry: We record the show live on the Thursday night on youtube.com forward slash Let's Drone Out [10.0] Curry: and our lovely patrons help with the editing costs. [12.0] (Patrons): These are Wacky Wes, Mikey Dread, Art Faulkner, Carlos Campos. [19.0] (Patrons): Thank you. [20.0] (Patrons): Hello and welcome back. [52.51] Jack: You're listening to another fantastic episode of Let's Drone Out. [57.51] Jack: We cannot get hold of NJ or the guest we were meant to have on. [62.51] Jack: So you're stuck with us guys today, but it's okay. [65.51] Jack: Some stuff has happened. [67.51] Jack: We have tonight. [69.51] Frank: More than half of us have been flying, so we might even talk about drones. [73.51] Frank: Yes. [74.51] Curry: All the people that haven't flown have been demoted to the bottom row. [78.51] Jack: Tonight we have my little Tony. [86.51] Frank: For sure. [88.51] Jack: The Lord Master Andrew slash Frank. [91.51] Jack: Hello. [93.51] Jack: And I've been brought to life fly and the other two failures. [99.51] Jack: Sure. [104.51] Jack: The shut-ins of society. [108.51] Jack: The lovely, beautiful blue owl. [111.51] UNKNOWN: Bonjour. [112.51] Jack: And Curry Kitten Wednesday let down. [119.51] Curry: I would just fall asleep during this dream again if I came on. [122.51] Jack: Hello. [126.51] Jack: I had a mental health review. [130.51] Jack: I didn't do too well, but one of my reasons to live was I enjoy Curry Kitten Wednesday. [136.51] Jack: That got me an extra point on my mental health thing. [142.51] Jack: He goes, what activities do you enjoy? [145.51] Jack: And I was like, there's this miserable old game that I play video games with on a Wednesday. [152.51] Jack: Oh, no, wait. [153.51] Jack: He cancels on me later on. [156.51] Tony: Do you feel bad now? [161.51] Curry: I'm going with the treating mean to keep him keen effect. [164.51] Curry: It seems to work. [166.51] Jack: Edging me out. [168.51] Tony: I want to know some more activities and more points. [173.51] Tony: What do points mean? [175.51] Tony: Roses. [177.51] Jack: What the hell is going on? [179.51] Jack: Sorry. [181.51] Jack: The blue owls muted herself, so the background noise went. [184.51] Jack: And for a second there, I thought my headphones died. [189.51] Jack: Oh, no. [191.51] BlueOwl: Don't tell me I have a background noise. [193.51] BlueOwl: Why am I always a black sheep everywhere? [197.51] BlueOwl: I can't name any background noise. [199.51] Jack: Yeah, the little hiss of her little, just invite someone else, Jack. [204.51] Jack: Clive, you can come on. [205.51] Jack: You've been particularly lovely. [206.51] Frank: I don't know what it is that Tailspin RC has put in the chat, [209.51] Frank: but I was convinced I had a mark on my screen just then. [212.51] BlueOwl: Oh, yeah, I scratched it somehow. [215.51] Jack: Grumpy FPV literally broke. [218.51] Jack: King didn't count, Jack. [220.51] Jack: I think that's probably plus points, isn't it? [223.51] Tony: On your mental health review. [227.51] Tony: I call it throwing oneself around the room. [230.51] Tony: Yeah. [233.51] Jack: RC Labottix has been out with its Mavix 2 Pro myself today. [240.51] Jack: Great fun. [241.51] Curry: I'm trying to work out if that's just Mavix's belt wrong, [244.51] Curry: or it's just Chinese knock-off of a Mavix. [247.51] Curry: I thought it was a plane. [249.51] Frank: What a name for a plane. [252.51] Frank: Mavix 2 Pro. [254.51] Frank: With an X. [255.51] Frank: I'm going to have to look that one up. [257.51] Frank: I've been enjoying RC Labottix's videos recently. [261.51] Frank: Been some good ones. [263.51] Frank: I saw you got sponsored. [265.51] Frank: I'm fairly certain that the audio quality seems to have improved [270.51] Frank: since he's been sponsored. [272.51] Frank: I'd like to hear that. [276.51] Frank: I'm looking forward to seeing how the videos go, [279.51] Frank: because it always says the content on his videos are great. [285.51] Frank: It's always been hampered. [287.51] Frank: As we saw on the Mini Air Show Online, [291.51] Frank: he's a bit hampered by laptop power [295.51] Frank: and his editing of what he can cope with. [298.51] Frank: It seems like his sponsorship is maybe helping out on that. [302.51] Frank: I'm looking forward to seeing the same great content in HD. [310.51] Jack: I know. [311.51] Jack: I'm excited. [312.51] Jack: I forgot to charge my GoPro, [314.51] Jack: so I have subtle HD footage. [320.51] Jack: But he went out. [322.51] Jack: What did you do? [323.51] Curry: Tell us the story. [324.51] Curry: You've got 20 minutes, [326.51] Curry: and then we'll go between the others the next 20 minutes. [329.51] Tony: You managed half a battery, [331.51] Tony: so was it half a battery again? [334.51] Tony: No, no. [335.51] Jack: I brought quite a few batteries. [339.51] Jack: My plane batteries didn't go so well, [341.51] Jack: because it was incredibly windy. [344.51] Jack: But I flew line of sight the tiny trainer a bit, [350.51] Jack: but also crashed because it was just too light in the wind. [355.51] Jack: I landed a couple of times, but not really that amazingly. [360.51] Jack: I flew about four packs on my mini-quads. [366.51] Jack: I used one of them to do a bit of search and rescue. [373.51] Jack: What were you having to search for in rescue? [376.51] Jack: There was a young girl who was missing. [380.51] Jack: Genuine actual search and rescue. [383.51] Jack: It seemed like a downed quad, [385.51] Jack: not an actual human being. [387.51] Jack: Two police officers in plain clothes showed up, [392.51] Jack: and they were like, [393.51] Jack: Hi, we're police officers. [394.51] Jack: And I was like, me, Gavin. [397.51] Jack: It felt weird because you always see it in the movies, [404.51] Jack: but you always like, [405.51] Jack: if you've got ID, [406.51] Jack: because A, you don't look like police officers. [409.51] Jack: They're driving an electric BMW. [412.51] Jack: And they were like, [413.51] Jack: do you mind just doing the corners of the hill [417.51] Jack: and the walkway and everything? [419.51] Jack: So they kind of worked out that she probably got into the woods. [422.51] Jack: So that was kind of cool. [425.51] Jack: And I saved my last battery for, [429.51] Jack: I had a fifth battery with me, [431.51] Jack: and I let Dan Upton fly that. [434.51] Jack: I've only got sunburn on my hands, [436.51] Jack: which is great, [438.51] Jack: because I had my hoodie up and everything. [442.51] Jack: I watched a Roto-Rite episode of Blue Hours mentioned on it. [445.51] Jack: Hey, hey. [447.51] Jack: Yeah. [448.51] BlueOwl: Which one? They want to know. [449.51] Jack: I don't know, man. [452.51] Jack: Yeah. [453.51] Jack: Probably the only one that's worth listening to on Let's Drone Out, [455.51] Jack: even though you should say anything. [457.51] BlueOwl: I know. [458.51] BlueOwl: I was mentioned in one before, [460.51] BlueOwl: and it was on different styles of flying. [463.51] BlueOwl: Obviously, because there are two people flying high-sealed around the world. [469.51] BlueOwl: I had to be mentioned, [470.51] BlueOwl: but I'm not sure if it was this one. [473.51] BlueOwl: Let me know. [475.51] Jack: Any of you who follow me on Instagram [478.51] Jack: would have seen my lovely drone bag. [481.51] Jack: I'm using my normal drone bag for my art stuff on a Friday, [487.51] Jack: so I put everything in the carrier bag. [490.51] Jack: Don't do that. [491.51] Jack: I've broken two switches off my transmitter, [493.51] BlueOwl: there and there. [495.51] Jack: The Jippo bag, [497.51] Jack: or members of the Traveling Community bag, [500.51] Jack: available in our shop. [504.51] Jack: I swear you have a transmitter case, though. [508.51] Jack: No, I gave up on those [510.51] Jack: because they were just so bulky, [512.51] Jack: and I might change it my ways. [515.51] Curry: It's much better to put things in a carrier bag. [521.51] Jack: Yes, it's great. [524.51] Jack: At least I show up. [527.51] Tony: So you flew more than one battery? [532.05] Tony: That's good. [533.05] Jack: Yeah, I flew more than one battery. [535.05] Jack: I've showed up. [536.05] Jack: I charged my GoPro, so there's a couple of batteries. [538.05] Jack: We met up with a random encounter, [545.05] Jack: some guys doing the old petrol RC cars. [550.05] Jack: Let's just say, [552.05] Jack: they're not like, [554.05] Jack: hey, what about your fail safe? [557.05] Jack: None of them have fail safes. [559.05] Jack: One of them rampaged to the rugby field, [565.05] Jack: went through the gate and hit a post. [568.05] Tony: They're like ankle bankers and things. [571.05] Jack: I know, just absolutely. [574.05] Jack: One of them went off to have a look at it, [577.05] Jack: and he brought back solid, [579.05] Jack: I don't know about two centimeter thick rods [584.05] Jack: that have been bent and snapped with eye holes. [588.05] Jack: I don't know what parts they are on a car, [590.05] Jack: but they just don't set a fail safe. [592.05] Jack: I guess because they don't fall on people [594.05] Jack: or kill people like drones do, apparently. [597.05] Frank: Generally, you're not going far enough out of range. [603.05] Frank: Yeah. [604.05] Frank: That's quite a challenge to get out of range. [608.05] Curry: Yeah, but these car transmitters aren't exactly like, [612.05] Curry: oh, we must put a crossfire on it [614.05] Curry: because we're doing six kilometers away, is it? [616.05] Curry: It's just like some mouse thing. [618.05] Tony: I mean, people drive around estates with their cars. [623.05] Curry: Oh, yeah. [624.05] Curry: These are FPV cars. [625.05] Curry: That's a different thing. [626.05] Curry: If you're just talking about people driving [627.05] Curry: on a side with their little, I'm doing this [629.05] Curry: and this is me driving on the steering wheel, [632.05] Curry: then that's not very far. [635.05] Curry: But I suppose it's quite hard to take people out [638.05] Curry: because if you have like, oh, there was a step [641.05] Curry: and then that destroyed the car [644.05] Curry: because the person was above the step. [647.05] Curry: It seems less likely to kill people, [649.05] Curry: maybe do damage to their feet. [652.05] Jack: Yeah. [653.05] Jack: I mean, if it runs over your toes, [654.05] Jack: you're not even going to notice it. [655.05] Jack: Or if you're doing headstand at this time, [657.05] Curry: that could be dangerous. [658.05] Curry: But these are corner cases, I feel. [661.05] Frank: You had to fail safe tests on the trucks, [664.05] Frank: like you mean the little scale ones that [668.05] Curry: drive around the scale. [671.05] Curry: Yeah, they don't even go that fast [673.05] Jack: and they're within the fenced off area. [677.05] Frank: And they surely don't weigh that much. [681.05] Frank: But even if they were going like four miles an hour, [685.05] Frank: they're not really going to do much, are they? [688.05] Jack: Have you seen what magical pencils wrote? [692.05] Jack: Has anyone seen that guy with the FPV RC car [696.05] Jack: that baits the police and he gets into a high speed chase? [699.05] Jack: I have seen him. [700.05] Jack: That's pretty good. [701.05] Curry: Yes. [702.05] Curry: There's one of the reasons I'd like to make that [704.05] Curry: inviting him on. [705.05] Curry: He seemed to be genuinely trying to [708.05] Curry: piss off everybody. [711.05] Jack: Nice. [712.05] Jack: Nice. [713.05] Jack: So funny. [714.05] Jack: I'm going to watch that now. [715.05] Jack: Shall we play it on stream? [717.05] Jack: Or do you reckon that's like bad? [720.05] Jack: No, that's a bad idea. [722.05] Curry: Holy crap. [726.05] Curry: He does keep losing cars, though, because of it. [729.05] Curry: Mostly because he's fine about getting, [731.05] Curry: he can get away and stuff, [732.05] Curry: but he ends up like crashing or going off the road [735.05] Curry: and then he gets stuck on something. [738.05] Jack: Oh, no, GoPro Hero Silver. [740.05] Jack: Crap. [741.05] Jack: Oh, my God. [747.18] Jack: Hang on. [748.18] Jack: I'm just checking this out. [750.18] BlueOwl: So who else was flying? [752.18] Frank: I've been flying. [754.18] Frank: I've flown a bunch of packs. [757.18] Frank: I've tried out three of the local spots. [762.18] Frank: So I've tried a local little park bit [767.18] Frank: that's about a 10 minute walk from me. [771.18] Frank: An abandoned, I'm pretty sure it's an abandoned golf course. [775.18] Frank: It's kind of near to that as well. [780.18] Frank: And also the field next to kind of work, [784.18] Frank: depending on... [786.18] BlueOwl: Next to kind of work? [788.18] Frank: Well, I mean, my kind of employer, [791.18] Frank: but not employer, but there's some people [794.18] Frank: that I'm doing some work for occasionally. [796.18] Frank: So secretive. [798.18] Frank: It's not secretive. [799.18] Frank: It's just... [801.18] Frank: Not simple. [803.18] Frank: I don't understand what's going on. [805.18] Frank: So I don't know how to communicate it. [807.18] Frank: But yeah, so I went to my kind of office. [814.18] Frank: It's kind of my office. [815.18] Frank: I don't know. [816.18] Frank: Somewhere that I'm doing some work occasionally. [819.18] Frank: And they were like, [820.18] Frank: oh, you do some drone stuff, right? [823.18] Frank: We have a forest over there [825.18] Frank: and we have a field over there. [826.18] Frank: You're very welcome to use it. [828.18] Frank: Yes, okay. [830.18] Curry: If you want someone killed, [832.18] Curry: Frank can be found on the dark web for hire. [836.18] Tony: Jack's not even paying attention. [838.18] Tony: I know. [839.18] Tony: No, I heard that. [840.18] Jack: This is amazing. [843.18] Jack: This guy is incredible. [847.18] Tony: Oh my God. [848.18] Tony: You're watching something else while doing a live show. [851.18] Jack: I know. [852.18] Jack: I'm so sorry. [853.18] Jack: The ADHD is strong. [856.18] Tony: Cat on his bloody phone screen. [858.18] Tony: What were you flying, Frank? [859.18] Curry: Because you were saying you were... [861.18] Curry: It sounded like maybe you were flying high tilt [863.18] Curry: because you were sort of building up to something [865.18] Curry: and then you bottled it. [866.18] Frank: Yeah. [867.18] Frank: So the guy who... [872.18] Frank: It's even more complicated [873.18] Frank: because he doesn't really own the field [876.18] Frank: but kind of owns the field. [877.18] Frank: But it's... [878.18] Frank: Either way, he lives right next door. [882.18] Frank: His son was there and he was like, [884.18] Frank: you know, he grabbed his son [886.18] Frank: and all three of us out in this field. [889.18] Frank: So I started off with quite low tilt [891.18] Frank: because I was like, I don't trust myself. [895.18] Frank: Because it is a field [898.18] Frank: but it has some trees growing in it. [903.18] Frank: That's all you get going. [905.18] Tony: It's all about tonight. [907.18] Tony: It is a field. [908.18] Tony: It's not a field. [909.18] Tony: It's not my work. [910.18] Tony: It is my work. [911.18] Tony: It's kind of a field. [912.18] Curry: We've got a lot of rambling to say, [914.18] Curry: I flew in this field with some trees, [917.18] Curry: which would be the short way of saying it. [919.18] Tony: I know what it is. [920.18] Tony: It's because we've got, no guess, [921.18] Tony: we've got nothing to talk about [923.18] Tony: and he's trying to make it last. [925.18] Jack: He's trying to make it to a Shaggy dog story. [929.18] Jack: Oh my God, that was incredible. [933.18] Frank: Jack's just watching something else. [935.18] Frank: They're like tree saplings [937.18] Frank: because the thing is, [938.18] Frank: it's because the field has been abandoned [940.18] Frank: for about 10 years. [943.18] Frank: It's not like some big oak trees [945.18] Frank: in the middle of the field around it. [947.18] Frank: It's just kind of meadow [949.18] Frank: with some little saplings growing in it. [952.18] Frank: If you were there, you'd understand why. [955.18] Frank: No, since you're going into detail, [957.18] Curry: I'm going to pick you up on this. [959.18] Curry: It can't have been abandoned that long [961.18] Curry: if they're saplings [962.18] Curry: because the whole thing would have [964.18] Curry: erupted into quite big brush. [966.18] Curry: There's a lot of that. [968.18] Curry: Maybe you should become a detective. [970.18] BlueOwl: Maybe you're kind of lost your way. [973.18] Curry: I'm suspicious about Frank now [975.18] Curry: and what he's doing in the field. [977.18] Curry: He's probably got together with Tony [979.18] Curry: and they're burying people there. [981.18] BlueOwl: You are your friend. [983.18] Frank: There's chickens and pigs, if that helps. [987.18] Frank: What, in the field? [989.18] Frank: Yeah, we're in a bit of the field. [991.18] Frank: There's saplings just running around. [993.18] Frank: Well, around a bit of it. [995.18] Frank: They're fenced off a little bit. [996.18] Frank: Don't worry about it. [997.18] Frank: There's a fence as well. [999.18] Frank: There's kind of... [1001.18] Frank: So, in the field, [1003.18] Curry: which hasn't been touched for ten years, [1005.18] Curry: there's a fence where pigs and stuff [1008.18] Curry: somehow self-sufficient [1010.18] Curry: without any human intervention. [1013.18] Frank: It's not that I'm withholding information. [1016.18] Frank: It's that I don't know how to communicate [1018.18] Frank: the information accurately. [1020.18] Curry: It really doesn't sound that hard, does it? [1023.18] Frank: Well, it shouldn't be, but it is. [1027.18] Frank: So, I was flying around [1029.18] Frank: just kind of fairly low tilt to begin with [1032.18] Frank: and then tried to fly a line of sight [1034.18] Frank: passing the goggles around [1035.18] Frank: and that didn't go well at all. [1036.18] Frank: I was flying my Tyro 79 [1038.18] Frank: and I'd forgotten my glasses [1040.18] Frank: and it didn't go very well. [1043.18] Frank: I completely lost orientation about 30 metres out. [1047.18] Frank: I was like, oh yeah, this has not gone well. [1050.18] Frank: But, hey, they got to enjoy a crash. [1053.18] Frank: FPV, it's fine. [1056.18] Frank: And then I gave up on that [1058.18] Frank: and while I was there, [1061.18] Frank: I stuck it high tilt [1063.18] Frank: and then was flying around [1065.18] Frank: one of the saplings [1066.18] Frank: trying to learn where exactly... [1069.18] Frank: Well, first of all, [1070.18] Frank: where like hover is. [1073.18] Frank: Like how high the top was. [1076.18] Frank: No, I learned that. [1077.18] Curry: Just looking at the sky at all times, surely. [1079.18] Curry: Pretty much. [1080.18] Frank: Well, that's why I was flying [1081.18] Frank: around the sapling was like, [1082.18] Frank: you know, even if you're kind of... [1084.18] Frank: I had a reference of like how high I was [1086.18] Frank: and whether I was moving forwards [1087.18] Frank: or backwards or whatever. [1088.18] Frank: But yeah, it's very much a case of like, [1090.18] Frank: yeah, there's none of that. [1092.18] Frank: That's not happening. [1093.18] Frank: So I just, yeah. [1095.18] Frank: I definitely didn't try landing [1097.18] Frank: anywhere nearby. [1099.18] Frank: That was bad or would have been bad [1102.18] Frank: if I'd tried that. [1103.18] Frank: But yeah, I was just orbiting [1106.18] Frank: the saplings and... [1108.18] Frank: Was this a dream? [1111.18] Frank: No, there was no one. [1112.18] Frank: It would explain a lot. [1113.18] Jack: Stuff on his Instagram. [1116.18] Jack: How was the landing? [1119.18] Frank: I just was somewhere that I knew [1123.18] Frank: where it was and just cut, just disarmed. [1126.18] Frank: Oh, that's how it works every time. [1129.18] BlueOwl: Yeah. [1130.18] BlueOwl: Either crash or you just get where you are. [1133.18] Frank: I just wanted to know where it was [1137.18] Frank: to go pick it up. [1138.18] Frank: I'm not flying it back to us [1139.18] Frank: because I have a small child standing next to me. [1141.18] Frank: I don't really want to risk taking them out. [1145.18] Frank: So I can see that bit of path. [1148.18] Frank: I know where that bit of path is. [1149.18] Frank: I'll just kind of fly as slowly as I dare along there [1153.18] Frank: so that I still know where I am [1155.18] Frank: and just disarm and just plonk onto the ground [1159.18] Frank: with a nice thump. [1161.18] BlueOwl: I actually remember my very first flight [1165.18] BlueOwl: in real life with high-tilt. [1167.18] BlueOwl: And we had somebody who was very interested. [1170.18] BlueOwl: There was one more person. [1172.18] BlueOwl: I was trying to trip his pins. [1176.18] BlueOwl: I don't know what it was. [1178.18] BlueOwl: Some really high poles. [1180.18] BlueOwl: And this guy was just so interested. [1183.18] BlueOwl: He wanted to know everything, how fast they fly. [1185.18] BlueOwl: That's the first question I always get. [1188.18] BlueOwl: He had no idea about drones. [1189.18] BlueOwl: So he just kept talking and talking. [1191.18] BlueOwl: And I remember my friend saying at some point now, [1194.18] BlueOwl: she's trying to fly something that's very, very difficult. [1199.18] BlueOwl: So you just need to stop talking and let her focus. [1203.18] BlueOwl: And it was. [1204.18] BlueOwl: It was so intense. [1205.18] BlueOwl: And I was just shaking. [1207.18] BlueOwl: I was all over the place with the quad. [1210.18] BlueOwl: And it wasn't very pretty. [1212.18] BlueOwl: It's not something I would post. [1213.18] BlueOwl: But I just remember that comment. [1215.18] BlueOwl: You just need to shut up and let's just fly. [1218.18] Frank: Yeah, I see. [1223.18] Frank: But yeah, I haven't flown the forest yet. [1226.18] Frank: That's on my to-do list is fly a little forest next to it. [1230.18] Curry: So when you say it's a forest, [1232.18] Curry: does this mean you're just going through a forest trail through trees [1235.18] Curry: and it's going to be very tree exciting? [1238.18] BlueOwl: Very fast. [1239.18] Frank: Lots of trees. [1241.18] Frank: It's a whatever the proper word is [1246.18] Frank: for a place where they grow trees as a farm. [1250.18] Frank: They farm trees. [1253.18] Frank: Whatever that word is. [1256.18] Frank: I don't know. [1257.18] Frank: I feel like there's probably a word for that, isn't there? [1261.18] Frank: You have like an orchard for when you get the fruit from them. [1266.18] Frank: When you're just getting the wood from them. [1270.18] Frank: Nursery? [1271.18] Frank: I don't know. [1272.18] Frank: Whatever it is. [1273.18] Curry: It's one of them. [1274.18] Curry: Tree Farm. [1275.18] Curry: I'm getting a vote for Tree Farm from Robin FPV. [1278.18] Curry: We'll go with that. [1280.18] Curry: Shall we start calling you Metal Frank at this point? [1283.18] BlueOwl: Something's happened. [1285.18] Curry: This is a reference to Metal Denny. [1287.18] Curry: Okay. [1288.18] BlueOwl: I thought I was the one who couldn't speak English, [1290.18] BlueOwl: but I feel better now. [1294.18] Frank: Having some difficulty today. [1296.18] Frank: I don't know why. [1301.18] Frank: I was walking around it at lunchtime, [1304.18] Frank: just working out like, which bits should you fly around? [1307.18] Frank: Which bits should you avoid? [1308.18] Frank: Where is there too much scraggle? [1311.18] Frank: I reckon there's quite a reasonable course you can make out of it. [1319.18] Frank: Because there's also internet and running water and electricity [1324.18] Frank: and everything on site. [1326.18] Frank: We could probably organize an event there fairly easily. [1330.18] Frank: It should all turn up. [1332.18] Frank: Exactly. [1334.18] Curry: It's just having a bit with us five. [1336.18] Curry: Blur has to come over from deepest darkest Czech Republic. [1340.18] Curry: Exactly. [1342.18] BlueOwl: Bring them in. [1343.18] BlueOwl: I wish I could. [1344.18] BlueOwl: I'm actually going home tomorrow. [1347.18] BlueOwl: Ooh. [1348.18] BlueOwl: I'll be able to go. [1349.18] Curry: Are you going to be flying there? [1350.18] Curry: Are you allowed to fly there? [1352.18] BlueOwl: That's the plan. [1354.18] BlueOwl: I actually realized in the meantime, [1356.18] BlueOwl: when we were talking, [1358.18] BlueOwl: that I don't belong in the bottom row today. [1362.18] BlueOwl: I didn't go flying in real life, but I did fly. [1367.18] Curry: On a sim? [1368.18] BlueOwl: Yeah. [1369.18] Curry: Well, I did that. [1370.18] Curry: We're still on the bottom row, I'm afraid. [1372.18] Curry: There's so many people. [1374.18] BlueOwl: I tried, I tried. [1375.18] BlueOwl: Okay, I do belong here. [1378.18] Curry: The loser's row. [1380.18] BlueOwl: Yeah. [1383.18] Curry: Frank, how many packs did you do? [1385.18] Frank: I mean, I only flew a couple of packs in the field, [1393.18] Frank: but in that field next to kind of work. [1396.18] Frank: But the kind of field next to the kind of work, [1399.18] Frank: I only flew a couple of packs there, [1401.18] Frank: but the park near here and the kind of abandoned golf course next to that. [1409.18] Frank: Yeah, I'm sorry. [1410.18] Frank: There's lots of kind ofs. [1413.18] Frank: I don't know how many packs I flew. [1416.55] Frank: Quite a few. [1418.55] Frank: At least more than four. [1420.55] Curry: Well, that's beating Jack. [1422.55] Curry: Jack, you lose. [1423.55] Jack: Why? [1424.55] Jack: I've done a few. [1425.55] Jack: I just didn't totally drain them. [1429.55] Jack: You know, and I gave one to Dan. [1432.55] Jack: Not my fault. [1433.55] Jack: This is what I've been up to. [1438.02] Frank: That is a bright LED thing. [1440.02] Tony: That's very bright. [1441.02] Jack: Sorry, strobing. [1443.02] Jack: Sorry. [1444.02] Tony: Maybe you could. [1445.02] Tony: If someone donates, you could flash that instead of followers. [1451.02] Jack: All right. [1452.02] Jack: Six packs a day. [1453.02] Jack: Look at old numbskull. [1456.02] Jack: Check this out. [1457.02] Jack: But yeah, yeah. [1458.02] Jack: That's what I've been up to. [1461.02] Jack: So did you tell... [1464.02] Curry: I was going to say, what about Tony as the other person on the top row? [1468.02] Tony: I flew. [1470.02] Tony: I tested return to home. [1473.02] Curry: Oh, yeah. [1474.02] Curry: Oh, I saw that video. [1475.02] Curry: It was funny. [1476.02] Curry: Oh, yeah. [1477.02] Frank: You seem to be seeing yourself all the way through. [1483.02] Tony: I was. [1484.02] Tony: I was. [1485.02] Tony: I pretty much knew it was going to work because I copied Martin's fossil stuff [1490.02] Tony: scenes. [1492.02] Tony: He'd done it already. [1493.02] Tony: He's like, just copy this because we both already copied some ones off of [1500.02] Tony: probably bard whirls. [1502.02] Tony: But then he changed it a little bit. [1506.02] Tony: So I just copied his, put it in and flipped the switch and it abruptly turns [1511.02] Tony: around and starts going up really fast and then coming back. [1515.02] Tony: But yeah, it worked. [1516.02] Tony: It was a little bit of confidence there now if I'm out miles away. [1522.02] Curry: That's not all you flew, is it, Tony? [1524.02] Tony: No, that was a couple of days ago that return to home. [1528.02] Tony: So I'm happy about that. [1530.02] Tony: I wanted to go down to Brighton and do a long, longer range video. [1535.02] Tony: But we've got this northeasterly wind and I think it's actually going to get [1539.02] Tony: worse the weekend. [1540.02] Tony: So I probably won't bother. [1542.02] Tony: We just had that horrible northeast wind for the last couple of days, [1546.02] Tony: which is taking the edge off that nice blue sky and sunny sky we've been [1550.02] Tony: having. [1551.02] Tony: Anyway, I went out tonight. [1553.02] Tony: I flew the Inspire. [1554.02] Tony: I just tested that, gave it, charged a few batteries, put a few batteries [1558.02] Tony: through that. [1559.02] Tony: That was working fine. [1560.02] Tony: And then I flew the X-Class because it's just literally been hanging on my [1565.02] Tony: wall for six months. [1566.02] Tony: So I thought, right, better charge the batteries. [1569.02] Tony: All the batteries have charged nice. [1571.02] Tony: They're all looking really good and healthy. [1575.02] Tony: Took it out. [1576.02] Tony: I've just actually posted a video just before LDO and I was having problems. [1582.02] Tony: It just wouldn't come down. [1584.02] Tony: So I don't know what's happened. [1586.02] Tony: Every time I banked left or right, it would rise. [1591.02] Tony: And naught throttle, you'd think it would just fall out of the sky and it [1594.02] Tony: wasn't. [1595.02] Tony: So how can something go wrong just sitting on the wall? [1599.02] Tony: I don't know. [1601.02] Tony: So I've got to... [1602.02] Curry: How did you eventually land it then if it kept going up whenever you took the [1605.02] Curry: throttle off? [1606.02] Tony: It was mostly going up when I was turning. [1611.02] Tony: So if I banked, yawed or turned, it would rise. [1614.02] Tony: So I just leveled it out and it come down. [1617.02] Tony: But it was coming down really slow. [1619.02] Tony: It was horrible. [1620.02] Tony: You know, when you drop a quad, you literally naught and it falls like a [1623.02] Tony: brake. [1624.02] Tony: It was not doing that. [1626.02] Tony: So, yeah, it was felt out of control. [1629.02] Tony: So basically just landed it and just went, oh, I'm not doing that again. [1635.02] BlueOwl: Next time, just turn it upside down, throttle up towards the ground. [1642.02] BlueOwl: It will be faster. [1644.02] Tony: I'll try that. [1646.02] Tony: I don't know what it was and why it flew fine the last time and then just [1652.02] Tony: hanging on the wall and it goes wrong. [1655.02] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience, downloaded and [1659.02] Frank: edited to make sense when it played audio only, censored to please the [1663.02] Frank: iTunes people, hosted on the Internet, forwarded through to your podcast [1666.02] Frank: provider, downloaded, playing on your device and is now playing in your ears. [1670.02] Frank: All thanks to our Patreons. [1672.02] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits. [1675.02] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com forward slash let's drone out. [1681.02] Curry: Did you do any DCL flow? [1683.02] Curry: Was it DCL? [1684.02] BlueOwl: I did. [1685.02] BlueOwl: They did that. [1686.02] Curry: Yes, exactly. [1687.02] BlueOwl: Have you qualified yet? [1688.02] BlueOwl: No, I don't think so. [1689.02] BlueOwl: I'm not good enough, really. [1691.02] BlueOwl: That's a fair point. [1697.02] BlueOwl: I can't say no to this, but there is also life. [1701.02] Jack: Some people have life. [1705.02] BlueOwl: Thanks. [1708.02] BlueOwl: But that was actually super nice. [1711.02] BlueOwl: That was like it's a sim that makes you feel good even if you're super bad at [1718.02] BlueOwl: it. [1719.02] BlueOwl: You can start from a very low level, but from very easy tracks. [1722.02] BlueOwl: That's okay. [1723.02] BlueOwl: You don't have to jump all the way up right away. [1726.02] BlueOwl: I think it's the first time I've tried. [1729.02] BlueOwl: That kind of leads you throughout the progress. [1733.02] BlueOwl: You can start really from zero and feel good about it. [1737.02] BlueOwl: At first you have like two gates, then you have maybe five gates, and I was [1741.02] BlueOwl: really getting good times at easy tracks. [1744.02] BlueOwl: But then it happened. [1747.02] BlueOwl: Then I tried a difficult track. [1750.02] BlueOwl: I don't feel so good anymore. [1752.02] BlueOwl: But the good thing is there is actually quite a lot of freestyle potential. [1756.02] BlueOwl: So whenever I felt motivated, I would just... [1760.02] BlueOwl: Oh, by the way, it's actually a good question. [1763.02] BlueOwl: What angle to fly at when I'm racing? [1766.02] BlueOwl: I didn't know what to do. [1769.02] BlueOwl: I tried 35 degrees at first because racing at 65 is just stupid. [1776.02] BlueOwl: It doesn't work for me. [1778.02] BlueOwl: I tried 35 and I kept staring at the ground and crushing into gates because I couldn't [1783.02] BlueOwl: see them. [1784.02] BlueOwl: I think I ended up with 45, something like this. [1788.02] BlueOwl: It's something that's already similar to high-tilt, so I can keep it in the air at [1793.02] BlueOwl: least most of the time. [1796.02] Curry: I was going to say, I'm sure I saw a post from Mako, either on Facebook or [1799.02] Curry: Instagram. [1800.02] Curry: I thought I saw down at the bottom her cameras at 62 degrees, which seemed really [1805.02] Curry: high, but maybe she was going really fast. [1808.02] Curry: We've got a blue hour question there from Winterblue. [1811.02] BlueOwl: Yeah. [1812.02] BlueOwl: What software do I fly with? [1814.02] BlueOwl: I used to fly with beta flight at the beginning, but for I think a good year or [1820.02] BlueOwl: two, I'm on Kiss and I wouldn't go back. [1824.02] BlueOwl: I still have the tiny bits of light, but yeah. [1829.02] BlueOwl: Kiss for the win. [1832.02] Jack: Yeah. [1833.02] Jack: She does belong here. [1839.02] BlueOwl: Move me out there. [1840.02] BlueOwl: I'm not plugged in so I can't do it. [1843.02] Jack: There you go. [1844.02] Jack: You can go up there for a bit. [1848.02] Frank: Tony, while you were away, briefly, the chat suggested a few things. [1856.02] Frank: I was going to ask you if anyone had any ideas. [1859.02] Frank: Possibly. [1861.02] Frank: Robin suggested you'd left it on the wall too long and the arms are loose, [1866.02] Frank: which I thought at first was a joke, but then I thought, actually, no, that's [1871.02] Frank: actually not a bad shout. [1872.02] Frank: If it does get a bit loose, then you're going to get the sort of the vibrations [1877.02] Frank: and then you're going to have to kind of those sort of issues. [1882.02] Frank: That's a fine year old nuts boy. [1885.02] Frank: Tailspin suggested it might be trims on your radio or just generally kind of, [1892.02] Frank: I guess, something else that you might have changed on your radio. [1896.02] Frank: Maybe if you have recalibrated the sticks or something or just done something [1902.02] Frank: weird in it, maybe. [1904.02] Frank: Maybe when you're holding your radio whilst you're trying to connect to a [1909.02] Frank: simulator, maybe whilst quite drunk. [1911.02] Jack: Can you recalibrate your accelerometer? [1917.02] Jack: Yeah, you can. [1918.02] Jack: You shouldn't need to because Tony's only got a macro. [1922.02] Tony: I don't even need them. [1925.02] Tony: I like the idea of tightening me nuts. [1927.02] Tony: I might try that. [1929.02] Curry: No, this is done with like a spanner or screwdriver. [1932.02] Curry: This is not a duct tape situation. [1934.02] Curry: I know if you need to call someone to help you off. [1938.02] Tony: Expanding foam in the joints. [1940.02] Tony: Hey, look, I fixed my dropper post on my mountain bike on my own, [1945.02] Tony: which involves cables and doing things up and things pop up and down. [1950.02] Tony: So I was happy that I'd done that. [1953.02] Tony: I did scream once when I fell off it while I was sitting on my bike [1958.02] Tony: and it wasn't going down. [1961.02] Tony: I fell over and screamed at the top of my voice around the neighborhood. [1966.02] Tony: They probably heard me shouting and swearing a bit, [1969.02] Tony: but I did fix it in the end. [1971.02] Tony: So it is possible. [1973.02] Tony: It's just that I've not got very many tools. [1976.02] Tony: So yeah, but I like the idea of tightening stuff up. [1980.02] Tony: So yeah, that might be a thing. [1987.02] Tony: I might read that out on the podcast. [1990.02] Frank: Caroline suggests to tighten nuts, apply deep heat. [1995.02] Frank: I don't know how international deep heat is as a product. [2002.02] Frank: Google it. [2004.02] Frank: That's all I can suggest. [2005.02] Frank: If you don't understand that joke, Google it. [2009.02] Tony: Yeah, so I'll try that. [2012.02] Tony: I can't think of anything else why I'd do that. [2016.02] Tony: Really? [2018.02] Tony: Just especially when it's just sat there. [2020.02] Tony: But yeah, like it could be my transmitter. [2024.02] Tony: Yeah, my transmitter flew the Tomahawk the day before. [2028.02] Tony: Fine. [2029.02] Tony: So, don't know. [2032.02] Tony: Mind you, that was using crossfire and the other one wasn't using crossfire. [2036.02] Tony: The X-Class actually doesn't run on crossfire. [2040.02] Tony: So yeah, it could be something on there. [2043.02] Tony: To test X-Class, like taking the props off doesn't, you know, [2049.02] Tony: and spinning up doesn't, you don't get the same effect without props on. [2054.02] Tony: So I remember the guy under the stairs had the same problem [2060.02] Tony: when he first started his X-Class. [2063.02] Tony: It was going up and not coming down. [2066.02] Tony: But I think that was something to do with idle, if I remember. [2070.02] Tony: I can't remember. [2072.02] Tony: But yeah, it's going to be one of them days where you just sit out there [2075.02] Tony: and fiddle around with it, I suppose, until it works. [2080.02] BlueOwl: When was the last time you've flown it before? [2084.02] Tony: It's literally been on my wall for six months. [2088.02] BlueOwl: Well, maybe it just didn't fly enough during six months [2091.02] BlueOwl: and I just wanted to stay in the air. [2094.02] BlueOwl: You're telling me to go back? [2096.02] Curry: I was having too much fun and I didn't want to come down. [2099.02] BlueOwl: Exactly. [2101.02] Curry: Screw you, Tony, I'll land when I'm ready. [2104.02] BlueOwl: My quads are just going to go to the moon when I try flying them for the first time. [2109.02] Curry: Yeah, but haven't it caught sight of, like, the Mars thing [2112.02] Curry: and it's like, I'm off there, going away. [2114.02] Tony: Maybe it was like, can, yeah, it can go on it. [2120.02] Tony: Like having the camera angle different might have upset, [2126.02] Tony: but literally, I was literally putting no throttle at all [2130.02] Tony: and it was still going up. [2132.02] Tony: So it's definitely something bad, it needs to be sorted. [2137.02] Tony: But yeah, I've got to fly wings and wheels in a couple of months, [2143.02] Tony: so it needs to be sorted. [2146.02] Frank: Have you put in a 16S battery instead of an 8S battery that you had last time? [2153.02] Tony: No, it's still unfortunately only 8S, [2156.02] Tony: but I think Martin's going to bring in his along to wings and wheels [2160.02] Tony: and I might even see if I can nick it and try flying Martin's before wings and wheels [2167.02] Tony: and then asking him fucking for it because he's got pretty lights on it as well. [2173.02] Curry: Well, if the basis of it flying up is generally it thinks it's having a wobble [2178.02] Curry: and thus the motors are compensating, [2180.02] Curry: I think the shout about checking all the bolts to see if there's any wobble in it is quite a good one. [2185.02] Curry: Vibration equals motors spinning up to try and cancel each other out [2190.02] Curry: and then just getting caught in that loop. [2192.02] Tony: I will try that first, I think. [2194.02] Tony: But otherwise, I just don't know what it can be really. [2198.02] Tony: But we'll see. [2200.02] Tony: But glad the Tomahawk flew back, that was amazing. [2204.02] Tony: Although it does, has anyone tried Return to Home on a normal quad that you've built? [2208.02] Curry: You have to stop calling it Return to Home because that's still what it is. [2211.02] Curry: It's Rescue Mode. [2213.02] Curry: It's like we're in a freak. [2215.02] Curry: What can I do? I'll crash it towards myself. [2217.02] Curry: That's essentially what Rescue Mode is. [2219.02] Curry: We've had this discussion. [2220.02] Curry: Crash to home, yeah. [2221.02] Tony: Well, to be fair, I did remember you saying that in my head. [2224.02] Tony: That's what I took over when it got there. [2227.02] Tony: That's a good idea. [2228.02] Curry: As people expecting it to come down and land nicely, they're in for a big surprise. [2232.02] Tony: Yeah, I didn't want it crashing into my face. [2243.02] Tony: But it's good. It works. [2246.02] Tony: But it's just scary how quickly it turns around and climbs. [2249.02] Tony: Can you slow any of that down, do you know? [2252.02] Tony: I'm sure you can. [2253.02] Curry: I did mention it. [2254.02] Curry: It's in the fail safe menu. [2258.02] Curry: You can change the meters per second it comes back. [2261.02] Curry: But the climb thing is really interesting because what happens is you sort of fly out [2268.02] Curry: and then you know it's going to come up by X amount of meters and come back. [2271.02] Curry: But what it does, it goes 20 meters above your max flight. [2275.02] Curry: So you could be flying like 100 meters and then you're like, oh, I'll come back and test this. [2279.02] Curry: So you fly at 10 meters out into a field and then you flick the switch [2283.02] Curry: and it immediately goes up to 120 meters before it starts coming back to you, [2287.02] Curry: which is really, really weird. [2290.02] Curry: So it's like the highest point you're at during that flight, not just at a certain height. [2295.02] Tony: That's the weird thing about it. [2299.02] Tony: Well, it's there anyway. [2301.02] Tony: And if I lose my sight and my goggles or whatever, I can just flick a switch now. [2306.02] Tony: I will turn the radio off. [2308.02] Tony: Has anyone tried that? [2310.02] Curry: No, I'm scared to. [2311.02] Curry: I'm scared about being far enough away to get the radio back on, reconnect and saying it's going to be okay. [2317.02] Curry: I've tested it out the fact it comes home. [2320.02] Curry: I've put that as my fail safe, but I don't want to do a full test of turning off. [2326.02] Curry: That's something I will leave for a real fail safe. [2331.02] Frank: In my head, I've got this image of being out in a field and have a few cars parked up. [2340.02] Frank: And someone's flown out like a mile away and loses connection. [2348.02] Frank: We've got rescue mode coming. [2349.02] Frank: It's like, quick, move your cars. [2352.02] Tony: It's coming in. [2353.02] Tony: It's coming in. [2354.02] Tony: I don't know if it's going to land, if it's going to crash. [2358.02] Tony: What's going to happen? [2361.02] Curry: I think the funniest thing about that is you're flying away there. [2365.02] Curry: You drop your radio on the floor. [2367.02] Curry: It smashes up and the battery comes out. [2369.02] Curry: And then it's like, oh, no. [2370.02] Curry: And then you realize there's a missile heading towards you. [2372.02] Curry: You've got to start legging it before it hits. [2378.02] Frank: I do know someone who had a rather poor connection with a crossfire module on the back of their radio. [2390.02] Frank: And so the power came out or something. [2394.02] Frank: And so the module died. [2396.02] Frank: They were busy trying to fit it all back in because it was not a sensible connection. [2401.02] Frank: It was like loads of little jumper leads just plugged in or something. [2407.02] Frank: And so they had a little wing of some kind that just came back and was just circling around because it was online now. [2416.02] Frank: So it wasn't quite rescue mode, scary, but it was just going in circles. [2421.02] Frank: And it had a lithium ion in it. [2424.02] Frank: It had a stupid amount of time left to fly because basically you just launched it. [2430.02] Frank: And then the connection went off of his radio and like, oh, he's trying to see what's going to happen first. [2437.02] Frank: Is he going to be able to plug back in his module and turn it all back on and reconnect and then actually get it to land? [2442.02] Frank: Or is it just going to run out of battery and just collapse onto the ground somewhere? [2448.02] Curry: Well, I think it'd be an interesting experiment to do because in some ways, in the ideal circumstances, [2457.02] Curry: what will happen is it will run out of battery to run the motor, but it'd still be able to move the surfaces. [2462.02] Curry: And if you've got the right wind conditions, it will just gently spiral down and land perfectly. [2469.02] Curry: It will probably just stall and do the normal wing thing about going to splat on the ground. [2473.02] Curry: But it would be nice to think it would do that, wouldn't it? [2477.02] Frank: It would be nice to think so. [2480.43] Jack: I have an old spectrum radio that the aerial had broke inside. [2486.43] Jack: I had to run and catch up with a 500-class heli. [2490.43] Curry: That's something I don't want to run after. [2493.43] Curry: Yeah, a 500-class heli. [2495.43] Curry: That sounds terrifying. [2498.43] Curry: It's a 1,400-RPM samurai sword. [2503.43] Tony: I stand behind Jack when we go to heli-fest bits, when we've gone out anywhere, [2509.43] Tony: and we go to the helicopters, I literally just stand behind Jack all the time, just in case. [2517.43] Jack: What you've described, INAF, is landing wood, basically. [2522.43] Curry: Does INAF actually have an auto-land? [2525.43] Jack: Yeah, it has now, but it usually just circles and gets lower and lower, [2532.43] Jack: and then either crash it into the trees around you or land. [2540.43] Jack: You have to follow it around and then grab it as it goes down. [2546.43] Jack: It can circle you, but you've got to select it to land, auto-land. [2553.43] Jack: They've done the whole safe zones now as well. [2556.43] Jack: If you're within distance of a safe home, it will fly there and then land. [2564.43] Frank: Is the safe zone something you set in the mission planner, [2567.43] Frank: or is that something you'd have to wander out somewhere and say, here's safe? [2572.43] Jack: Yeah, I think it's in the mission planner. [2574.43] Jack: I think you just set safe points, but if you're too far away, then it just ignores them, [2581.43] Jack: and then we'll return to home as far as I know. [2584.43] Curry: What I love about these hyper-intelligent flight modes is, okay, I think I can land, [2589.43] Curry: but hey, no one told me there were any trees there, [2591.43] Curry: so I assume it's just a complete flat earth turning you all like this, [2594.43] Curry: and there's nothing else there. [2596.43] Curry: It will just like, oh, there was a tree there apparently, no one told me. [2599.43] Curry: Yeah, crashing into the membrane, or whatever it is. [2603.43] Curry: My God. [2606.26] Frank: The firmament. [2608.26] Curry: Who's that? Oh my God. [2612.26] Curry: I remember my friend trying to do... [2614.26] Curry: He liked playing with the tech in ardu pilots, [2618.26] Curry: so he kept trying to do auto takeoff and auto landing a few years ago, [2622.26] Curry: which basically involved him running across the field holding a plane [2625.26] Curry: until the motor would spin up, [2627.26] Curry: which would normally happen about 100 meters away, [2630.26] Curry: so literally he's just running around with his plane. [2634.26] Curry: And Bill had detected it had enough speed and it would launch. [2638.26] Curry: But we never quite got the landing right. [2640.26] Curry: What we generally do is I think it would go in this logical fight [2644.26] Curry: where it's like, I'm coming down, I'm coming, it's all going well, [2647.26] Curry: and then it'd start taking off again. [2649.26] Curry: So I think there was a fight between I'm stalling when it's coming into land [2653.26] Curry: and thus I should thrust again and I'm trying to land, [2656.26] Curry: so we're just going like that. [2658.26] Curry: That was a new year's first. [2660.26] Curry: Maybe it got better, but it's kind of like, let's do this [2664.26] Curry: because it's fun to see if a plane can land itself rather than necessity though. [2669.26] Frank: So the follow-up on Grumpy with his 500 class heli [2673.26] Frank: that he had to go and run after was that it was heading towards houses [2677.26] Frank: and that's why he had to run after it. [2680.26] Curry: I still don't know what you're going to do when you catch up with it though. [2683.26] Curry: Start throwing stones at it. [2685.26] Curry: We throw the transmitter at it. [2690.26] Tony: I loved the stick at your quad. [2692.26] Tony: That worked. [2695.26] Jack: Yeah, I know. [2696.26] Jack: Frank wound me up with the, yeah, turn your board 180 degrees [2700.26] Jack: and then my quad literally ate itself. [2704.26] Jack: You owe me an ESC. [2707.26] Curry: When you start taking tech advice from Tony, [2711.26] Curry: you're so far away from what reality should be. [2715.26] Curry: You deserve everything you get. [2718.26] Jack: It was a dead gyro on only one axis. [2722.26] Tony: Maybe that's what's happened to me. [2727.26] Jack: It was from a very bad crash with that northern guy, Andy. [2731.26] Jack: I'll see if any of you remember. [2733.26] Frank: Oh, when you were flying through like the just round [2737.26] Frank: in the biggest, most open, empty, rocky landscape [2741.26] Frank: and you managed to crash into each other. [2743.26] Jack: Yeah, I was orbiting and then he plowed right into me. [2750.26] Jack: Andy, if you're listening to this, you're a bellend. [2753.26] Jack: I think you're both equally liable for that one. [2756.26] Jack: I've got bright ass LEDs on the back of my quad. [2761.26] Jack: How the hell? [2762.26] Jack: If you're both orbiting, it doesn't matter how bright the LEDs are [2765.26] Jack: on the back of you, does it? [2767.26] Jack: I was orbiting, he was not orbiting. [2770.26] Jack: He was just flying at me. [2772.26] Tony: No, he's not here to defend himself, but I'm very right. [2776.26] Jack: Let's phone him, hang on. [2778.26] Jack: Let's phone him. [2780.26] Jack: I just ring him and be like... [2783.26] Tony: I think you apologise and own up to it. [2786.26] Tony: I think he'll say it wasn't a crash into you, Jack. [2789.26] Jack: Why? [2790.26] Jack: Because it's like a... [2792.26] Curry: I don't think he'll answer. [2794.26] Curry: I think you're equally liable. [2795.26] Curry: I think everybody knows that you don't see a quad until it's... [2799.26] Curry: Oh, it's there. [2800.26] Jack: Yeah, I know, yeah. [2801.26] Jack: He was particularly like foggy and crap as well. [2805.26] Curry: You were flying through mist, weren't you? [2807.26] Curry: Yeah, I know. [2808.26] Jack: Some of the stuff Tony done, like the downhill of the mountain. [2813.26] Jack: No, Andy, sorry, guys. [2816.26] Jack: I tried. [2817.26] Jack: I can't believe that was three years ago. [2819.26] Jack: I'm not answering this. [2821.26] Tony: That was a good trip out, that was. [2824.26] Tony: I think we should... [2825.26] Tony: We're going to have to do something like that again. [2827.26] Tony: You're up for a 4am start, Jack. [2830.26] Jack: No, definitely not. [2832.26] Tony: You hated me until about midday. [2836.26] Tony: I know. [2837.26] Jack: I'm so sorry about me. [2840.26] Jack: I just... [2842.26] Tony: Knocked me out of your car. [2844.26] Jack: I was trying to... [2845.26] Jack: I know. [2846.26] Jack: It was hilarious. [2847.26] Jack: He like ripped off my car antenna. [2850.26] Tony: He's tapping it on the window. [2852.26] Tony: Don't let me in. [2854.26] Jack: I know, yeah. [2855.26] Frank: Wow. [2856.26] Frank: Was that more or less frustrating for you than having no means of transport [2865.26] Frank: in the middle of Wales? [2867.26] Jack: Yeah, I wanted to kill you more easily. [2871.26] Jack: Because you know that was the case. [2876.26] Jack: Because of the way I was like, you put that tire on or I'm doing it [2880.26] Jack: and then I'm going to beat you to death. [2885.26] Jack: I've already upset someone by threatening to burn down their workshop [2889.26] Jack: for not doing the thing that they signed on. [2892.26] Jack: And then they haven't put in the invoice. [2898.26] Jack: So I think I've like scared them that much. [2902.26] Jack: I will not... [2904.26] Tony: Sorry, how many LEDs have you done? [2909.26] Tony: PCBs or whatever? [2911.26] Jack: Four, five. [2912.26] Jack: I can't remember. [2913.26] Jack: Five? [2914.26] Tony: Are they made to order then? [2916.26] Tony: Have people ordered them off you? [2918.26] Jack: No, no. [2921.26] Jack: You can go to itsy.com forward slash brighten til I fly. [2926.26] Jack: No, no, no, they're not up there. [2928.26] Jack: They're not. [2930.26] Jack: At the moment, these were just like little test ones for fun. [2935.26] Jack: And it's just like friends and nice people are getting them. [2940.26] Jack: So like Frank's got one, Curry's got one, Tony's got one. [2943.26] BlueOwl: I didn't. [2945.26] Jack: What? [2946.26] Jack: Well, it's pointless you have him one. [2948.26] Jack: You're flying upside down. [2950.26] Jack: And painless is getting one and wind's getting one [2955.26] Jack: because wind sent me a package at the beginning of lockdown. [2959.26] Jack: And so I decided to make him one. [2962.26] Jack: Maybe you can manage a trade of LEDs for stickers. [2966.26] Jack: Yeah, I mean, the only problem is that I do need ten pound [2970.26] Jack: in order to like do some proper PCBs, which sucks. [2974.26] Jack: But no, I think Curry sent the RGB ones. [2982.26] Jack: Did you? [2983.26] Jack: Did you send the RGB Gerber? [2985.26] Curry: No, you didn't give me any files. [2987.26] Curry: I just sent a photo. [2988.26] Curry: So what about this? [2990.26] Curry: And they said send a file. [2992.26] Curry: And it's got too technical for me already. [2995.26] Curry: So I'm out. [2997.26] Tony: Jack, you can't not send blue L1. [3001.26] Tony: It might force her out to actually fly and make a video [3005.26] Tony: because someone in the chat said blue L1 may go for months. [3011.26] Jack: I think she even promised. [3013.26] Jack: I'll put her back. [3014.26] Jack: There you go. [3015.26] Curry: I didn't want to do this thing. [3017.26] Jack: Hit bigjack.com. [3018.26] Jack: Yes, big life. [3021.26] Jack: There you go. [3022.26] Jack: You're back there now. [3024.26] Jack: I've got the RGB ones coming. [3028.26] Jack: So if I can do them, I will accept don't knows. [3033.26] Jack: And you can get one. [3036.26] Tony: Are they all round when you do in different shapes? [3041.26] Jack: No, these are all just the standard shape at the moment. [3043.26] Jack: But I will redesign something for open source. [3046.26] Jack: So it's on the way. [3052.26] Jack: So like these round ones I'm doing, [3057.26] Jack: I'm going to try and make them open source [3059.26] Jack: so you can buy just the LEDs and the resistors [3062.26] Jack: and then sit there and solder them yourself. [3065.26] Jack: And then it will be like a nice little, [3067.26] Jack: you can download the Gerber files [3070.26] Jack: and then or just go to a no busy way or whatever [3074.26] Jack: and put in the number that they will give this board [3078.26] Jack: and then they'll just print, you know, make more [3082.26] Jack: and then you'll get five and you can sit there. [3085.26] Curry: For the benefit of people listening to the audio podcast, [3088.26] Curry: Jack has made a PCB of a circular ring of LEDs. [3093.26] Tony: Yes. [3094.26] Tony: Jack's ones are going to be red. [3097.26] Jack: No, mine are blue. [3099.26] Tony: Frank just got that. [3101.26] Jack: Red ring, I think. [3104.26] Frank: Frank got that. He was the only one. [3107.26] Jack: Thank you. [3108.26] Frank: The ring of fire. [3110.26] Jack: Yeah, my butthole. [3113.26] Tony: That's the one. [3115.26] Jack: Yeah, so it's been fun. [3117.26] Tony: Sorry, Jack. [3119.26] Jack: Yeah. [3120.26] Jack: Well, if anyone would like Tony's LED ring, let me know. [3126.26] Jack: Just put Tony as a bellend in the comments [3130.26] Jack: and whoever gets the most thumbs up gets his LED. [3135.26] Jack: I've paid for that. [3136.26] Tony: You can't give some stuff, but I've paid away. [3140.26] Jack: Yeah, I know. [3141.26] Jack: He did buy some LEDs for his one. [3144.26] Tony: Put that on the LED end. [3146.26] Jack: I know. [3147.26] Jack: It's going to be cool, man. [3148.26] Jack: It's going to be cool. [3149.26] Jack: I've had a bit of a problem with the old cheap, you know, [3154.26] Jack: the cheapo LED malarkeys and stuff. [3157.26] Jack: That was pretty bad. [3159.26] Jack: We've got a blue one as well. [3160.26] Jack: Hang on. [3161.26] Jack: Right. [3162.26] Tony: Watch out. [3163.26] Tony: See, that's got to be for blue hours, isn't it? [3164.26] Jack: Right. [3165.26] Jack: Flickery lights. [3166.26] Jack: Well, no. [3167.26] Jack: Blue owl and her lack of sticker giving. [3170.26] BlueOwl: I just wanted to tell you something, Jack. [3174.26] BlueOwl: Don't take it personally, but I have one here. [3178.26] Jack: Oh, yeah. [3180.26] Curry: No. [3181.26] Curry: Are your Gerber files ready? [3183.26] Curry: Yeah. [3184.26] Curry: I don't know what that means. [3186.26] Jack: Yeah, technically, yes. [3189.26] Curry: Are your Gerber files ready? [3193.92] Jack: No, no, no. [3194.92] Jack: The Linux related question. [3196.92] Jack: Is Tony a bellend? [3197.92] Jack: No. [3198.92] Jack: I'm confused. [3199.92] Jack: We're not going. [3200.92] Jack: Come on. [3203.92] Tony: Do you know what the show is called today? [3206.92] Frank: I don't know what's going on. [3209.92] Frank: I'm very lost. [3210.92] Frank: I can barely speak. [3212.92] Frank: I don't know what anyone's saying. [3214.92] Frank: I'm very confused. [3216.92] Frank: I'm lost. [3217.92] Frank: You should try listening to yourself, trying to destroy what I feel. [3220.92] Frank: I know. [3221.92] Frank: I hear myself. [3222.92] Frank: And I don't understand. [3224.92] Tony: I think Frank's just recorded himself for an hour talking, completing us of bollocks, [3228.92] Tony: and then press play on his laptop. [3231.92] Tony: I haven't done, but that's a good idea. [3233.92] Jack: Do you reckon the chickens and pigs were at war, and they've been at war for centuries? [3239.92] Jack: No. [3240.92] Jack: Have you not read Animal Farm? [3242.92] Tony: Angry Birds, I think Jack was referencing. [3245.92] Tony: Come on. [3246.92] Frank: Yeah. [3249.92] Frank: Slightly lower-brow than Animal Farm, but there we go. [3254.92] Tony: I like this one from Carl C. [3259.92] Tony: Tony is not a bellend. [3261.92] Tony: Thank you. [3262.92] Tony: Thank you very much. [3263.92] Jack: Jerry emailed me to check up on me. [3266.92] Jack: Thank you, Jerry. [3267.92] Jack: What a nice guy. [3269.92] Frank: Has anyone got any plans to fly over the next week? [3274.92] Curry: I think Gav's going to drag me out. [3277.92] Curry: I'm going to say generic yes, depending on what the weather is like. [3281.92] Curry: But not sure what. [3283.92] Tony: It's going to be wind. [3284.92] Tony: This north wind's going to be here. [3286.92] Tony: It's quite windy all week, actually, because I won't be able to walk with the dog. [3289.92] Curry: I'm like, it's quite nice. [3290.92] Curry: But then I get to the park, and it's like whoosh. [3292.92] Curry: It's just in your face, the wind. [3295.92] Tony: It's not been great. [3297.92] Tony: It's not been great. [3298.92] Tony: It's been an easterly wind. [3300.92] Tony: It's cold. [3301.92] Tony: Well, I've got to go out of line and keep trying to get this x-ray off. [3305.92] Tony: So I tighten my nuts first and then go out and try it and then try other things. [3310.92] Tony: So yeah, Digby Dan's in the chat. [3313.92] Jack: Thank you, Digby Dan. [3315.92] Jack: He has been like my fill to me, Andy RC. [3328.92] Jack: He's been literally dragging me out. [3332.92] Frank: I thought you were going to say something else. [3334.92] Jack: He's been making me update stuff a lot and flash firmware. [3340.92] Jack: But yeah, I got out because of Digby Dan, man of the hour, if you want Digby Dan. [3348.92] Tony: He's been more frank to your pet butcher. [3352.92] Jack: For a minute then, I didn't know what he... [3355.92] Jack: Yeah, I was very confused there for a second as well. [3359.92] Jack: Can you imagine Frank and Tony dressed as Pat Butcher? [3363.92] Jack: They're like big old earrings. [3365.92] Jack: You don't know what we're on about. [3367.92] Jack: It's a series called EastEnders. [3369.92] Jack: It's a soap opera. [3371.92] Tony: He's been literally going on 30 years. [3373.92] Jack: Yeah, I know. [3374.92] Frank: He's a soap opera. [3375.92] Frank: But I'm going to carry on trying to find a big enough and clear enough field to fly some bigger wings in. [3384.92] Frank: That's my task for the next week. [3387.92] Frank: When you say bigger wings, were you flying wings? [3390.92] Frank: You sounded like you were flying quads. [3393.92] Frank: But I want somewhere to fly wings. [3396.92] Tony: I know where you can fly wings. [3398.92] Tony: It's an hour away, but you need to buy four wheels first. [3401.92] Frank: I didn't need to get it. [3402.92] Frank: Yeah, I'm hoping to get a car over the next month. [3407.92] Frank: That's my kind of deadline. [3410.92] Frank: It's 22nd of May. [3411.92] Frank: I need to have a car. [3413.92] Tony: Howdy, Arcee. [3414.92] Tony: He's in the chat with Bear Lenders. [3416.92] Tony: He's written in there. [3417.92] Tony: Thank you. [3418.92] Curry: He's not answering his phone, but he's in the chat. [3421.92] Curry: He's not going to answer the phone now, is he? [3423.92] Curry: Yeah, he will. [3425.92] Frank: 43 seconds after we're meant to have stopped the show. [3428.92] Tony: Yeah, this is costing more because Pete's editing. [3433.92] Tony: He challenges by the way. [3435.92] Jack: By the way, we lost a patroner. [3442.92] Jack: So like if anyone wants to become a new patron, please help us. [3446.92] Tony: Was it a high patreon? [3450.92] Frank: We're going to have to re-record an intro for next month. [3454.92] Frank: Yeah, let's get Blue Owl on it, man. [3456.92] Jack: The lovely Blue Owl. [3457.92] Jack: I wonder who's going to win. [3459.92] Frank: The look of exasperation and pain on Blue Owl's face. [3463.92] Jack: I think Andy's blocked me. [3465.92] Jack: Andy, can you ring me? [3467.92] Tony: Just don't do it when I'm drunk. [3470.92] Tony: So let's do it on a Wednesday night and not a Friday night. [3475.92] Tony: Because if you remember last time it took quite a while [3479.92] Tony: because I was laughing quite a lot. [3482.92] Jack: Salute to the fallen patreon. [3486.92] Frank: Blue Owl, do you know when you're going to be able to get out and fly? [3489.92] Frank: I guess when you're going home, you'll be maybe able to. [3493.92] BlueOwl: Maybe. Hopefully. [3496.92] Frank: Good luck. [3497.92] BlueOwl: I'll do my best. Thank you so much. [3501.92] BlueOwl: I'll recruit my parents as people who will find spots [3506.92] BlueOwl: and they may be my spotters as well. [3509.92] BlueOwl: We'll see, we'll see. [3511.92] Curry: All your race gates just for me. [3516.92] BlueOwl: They will be my moving targets. [3521.92] BlueOwl: Just running around. [3523.92] BlueOwl: I'm definitely packing stuff and taking it with me. [3527.92] BlueOwl: Whether it's going to fly or not, that depends on many things. [3531.92] Tony: It's always good to have it there. [3534.92] Tony: Just take it with you just in case. [3537.92] Tony: Always good. [3539.92] Tony: Jack, I think we're done. See you soon. [3542.92] Jack: Yeah, we're done. [3544.92] Jack: Guys, thank you so much. [3546.92] Jack: Thank you for all the patrons. [3548.92] Jack: Still with us. [3550.92] Jack: We love your support. [3552.92] Jack: When we run out of money, that's it. [3554.92] Jack: Let's just so you know how serious this is. [3559.92] Jack: Right. [3561.92] Jack: But yeah, you'll be joined by my little tonus star. [3565.92] Jack: Bonjour. [3567.92] Jack: Andrew slash Frank. [3568.92] Jack: Bye. [3569.92] Jack: How is the new place you settled in? [3572.92] Jack: I'm reasonably settled. [3575.92] Jack: Yep, no worries. [3576.92] Jack: The lovely, wonderful and beautiful blue owl. [3579.92] Jack: Bye-bye. [3582.92] Jack: And everyone's favorite let down on a Wednesday night. [3586.92] Jack: So bitter. [3587.92] Jack: Goodbye. [3588.92] Jack: I know. [3589.92] Jack: Look, I enjoy being in your company and playing video games. [3594.92] Jack: Hey. [3595.92] Jack: I want to hang out with you. [3598.92] Jack: Okay, but it's no good if I'm just asleep all the time, is it? [3602.92] Jack: It's fine. [3603.92] Jack: You're not a let dick. [3604.92] Jack: I've been bright until I fly. [3605.92] Jack: Thank you, guys. [3606.92] Jack: You've been listening to Letro now. [3607.92] Jack: Have a good day, evening, night. [3609.92] Jack: Thank you very much. [3610.92] Jack: Bye. [3611.92] BlueOwl: Telemetry lost.