=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 342 === Title: LDO 342 - Chatting With Eric Konasty Of Team Failsafe Recorded: 2022-03-17 Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Koel "Koala" Anderson, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): Eric Konasty Total audience: 2,358 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNTMII0fgss); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1234676782-letsdroneout-ldo-342-chatting-with-eric-konasty-of-team-failsafe.mp3) ===================================== Check out Eric Konasty on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT-U9XQDwnKKCqzEQC7AgOg Check out KonastyFPV on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/konastyfpv #LetsDroneOut #LDO #Konasty #EricKonasty #TeamFailsafe #podcast #drone #mulitrotor #quadcopter #fatshark #DeadliestCatch #impulseRC #ethix #brightontillifly #TeamBlackSheep #FPVUK #BLHeli #lipo #KISSULTRA #KissESC #esc #FlyDuino #JoshuaBardwell #Skitzo #Alien5 #FPVRacing #MiniAirShow #LondonFPV #UKFPV #betaflight #fpvdrones #FPVRacing #MiniQuad #podcast #fpvwing [0.0] Jack: Hello and you're listening to Let's Drone Out and special thank you to our lovely patrons that helped donate so that we could pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things we say. Massive thank you too. [14.0] Jack: Carlos Campos. [16.0] Jack: Art Faulkner. [18.0] Jack: Sam Dahmer. [20.0] Koel: Mikey Dread. [22.0] Koel: On with the show. [24.0] Jack: Let's Drone Out now. [54.42] Jack: And welcome back to Let's Drone Out. Tonight you are joined by my darling wife. [61.42] Jack: Bonjour. [63.42] Jack: Back for today only. [66.42] Tony: I might make next week, you never know. [68.42] Jack: You never know. My good friend Cole. [73.42] Jack: Howdy. [75.42] Jack: And today's guest is Eric Konasty. [78.42] Jack: Hey, how's it going? [80.42] Jack: And I'm bright until I fly. [82.42] Jack: How is everyone? [84.42] Tony: Good. [86.42] Jack: Enjoying the spring wafer? [88.42] Jack: Yeah. [90.42] Jack: Luckily, I think Cole got away with the little mistake that was made about daylight savings. [98.42] Koel: Yeah, that was my bad. I didn't know it was daylight savings and then, yeah. [104.42] Eric Konasty: Well, you guys don't have that in Canada, right? [106.42] Koel: We do, we do. [108.42] Koel: We went back an hour, I guess, a couple of days ago. [111.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, I think the whole thing is kind of dumb in general. [116.42] Koel: Yeah, I don't understand it, but sure, more daylight, cool. [121.42] Tony: So you stay at work longer. [125.42] Jack: So, yeah, we got Eric Konasty on. [128.42] Jack: He's like one of the hosts of the Team Fail Safe podcast. [135.42] Jack: What podcast is that? [137.42] Eric Konasty: I didn't even know they do that one still. [140.42] Jack: Well, you've been... [143.42] Jack: I'm just kidding. [146.42] Eric Konasty: We just don't do it enough. [148.42] Eric Konasty: We're bad at it. [150.42] Tony: Are you not very regular then? [152.42] Tony: Because we're like clockwork. [154.42] Eric Konasty: No, we are not very regular. [156.42] Eric Konasty: We are not on a period schedule. [159.42] Koel: We need more fiber. [161.42] Tony: I think we should change a little bit, Jack. [164.42] Tony: We should do it a bit like that. [166.42] Eric Konasty: We're just all over the place. [169.42] Eric Konasty: Ruben's always ready to go. [171.42] Eric Konasty: Don't get me wrong. [172.42] Eric Konasty: Ruben could go 24-7, seven days a week. [176.42] Eric Konasty: He's at home chilling all the time pretty much. [180.42] Eric Konasty: He could go whenever. [182.42] Eric Konasty: It's just me and Steel have the more messed up schedules [187.42] Eric Konasty: that when one of us is available, [190.42] Eric Konasty: the other one's not or vice versa or something. [193.42] Jack: Are you still doing stuff for ethics and products? [197.42] Eric Konasty: Of course, man. [198.42] Eric Konasty: It's my company with Steel, so I got it. [202.42] Jack: Yeah, I suppose, yeah. [203.42] Eric Konasty: And his mounts. [204.42] Eric Konasty: Well, I mean, I could bounce, I guess. [206.42] Eric Konasty: But that'd be shameful. [209.42] Jack: Yeah. [210.42] Jack: No, I don't mind. [211.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, I got it. [212.42] Eric Konasty: Got to keep that motor running, man. [216.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, it's good, man. [217.42] Jack: Because I haven't kept up with most of what you're doing. [223.42] Jack: I watched you on Dronie's Life podcast, [227.42] Jack: and you were really good there, [229.42] Jack: and you became friends with Ares, [231.42] Jack: and you were like modern warfare-ing and whatnot. [235.42] Jack: Yeah. [236.42] Jack: And she wouldn't have faced two majors. [238.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, I think Greg Scopes. [240.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, kind of like stopped uploading YouTube videos [246.42] Eric Konasty: for about like a year, year and a half-ish kind of. [249.42] Eric Konasty: So I think that's like kind of what threw me out of the loop [251.42] Eric Konasty: with like, say, people knowing exactly like what was going on. [256.42] Eric Konasty: But yeah, I mean, I haven't stopped flying. [259.42] Eric Konasty: I've been flying like nonstop, [261.42] Eric Konasty: but I just got really busy doing a lot of production work [265.42] Eric Konasty: and everything and stuff like that. [268.42] Eric Konasty: That was kind of like, you know, taking... [271.42] Eric Konasty: It wasn't like 100% taking up the time for me doing YouTube videos, [276.42] Eric Konasty: but like my brain wasn't there. [279.42] Eric Konasty: My brain was trying to figure out a transition from like, [282.42] Eric Konasty: like moving from like my normal things I was doing [286.42] Eric Konasty: to try and just focus on 100% drone stuff [290.42] Eric Konasty: and make just drone stuff work. [293.42] Eric Konasty: So YouTube kind of took to the side a little bit, [300.42] Eric Konasty: and I just focused on trying to make that stuff work [303.42] Eric Konasty: and just, you know, doing stuff with ethics and stuff like that. [307.42] Eric Konasty: And then, yeah, now I'm in a place where like, [310.42] Eric Konasty: I know where everything's kind of at for the most part, [314.42] Eric Konasty: and I could go back to doing YouTube videos and stuff. [317.42] Eric Konasty: So that's why like lately in the past like couple weeks, [321.42] Eric Konasty: I've been posting again and you guys got that sweet screenshot [325.42] Eric Konasty: that Cole got from my recent one there. [328.42] Eric Konasty: And yeah, that's kind of like where I'm at right now is just trying to do... [334.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, it's tough, but like, you know, [337.42] Eric Konasty: you can make anything work basically. [339.42] Eric Konasty: You just keep working at it. So... [342.42] Jack: Yeah, because it was like 10 days since your update, [347.42] Jack: like the carbon fiber and titanium drone. Is that right? [351.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I need to get something uploaded probably for like this week. [355.42] Eric Konasty: We'll see. Right now I'm just getting everything ready. [358.42] Eric Konasty: We're going to go on a little beach vacation here next week with the kids. [363.42] Eric Konasty: Are you taking the camper van? [365.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, taking the camper van. [367.42] Jack: Nice one. Yeah. How did that build go? Because like, I think... [371.42] Jack: I can't remember if you did finish uploading, [374.42] Jack: but you were like kicking out with all the work and the power. [377.42] Eric Konasty: No, I didn't finish uploading. I got so busy with like, with work. [382.42] Eric Konasty: And then like, I needed to finish that thing because it's like... [385.42] Eric Konasty: So I built that van out really modular. [389.42] Eric Konasty: I'm always like, I love modular stuff. [392.42] Eric Konasty: I'm really like addicted to having things like that. [394.42] Eric Konasty: And nothing is really... [398.42] Eric Konasty: How do you say it? Like built-in in that van. [402.42] Eric Konasty: So everything's on some sort of either like L-track, [406.42] Eric Konasty: you know, like L-track or E-track, [408.42] Eric Konasty: kind of like what you see in airplanes that they lock the seats in. [411.42] Eric Konasty: You can move them in and out. [413.42] Jack: Oh, yeah. T-track, isn't it? [416.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, there's also T-track also. Yeah. [418.42] Eric Konasty: There's a couple of different styles, but it's something similar to that. [422.42] Eric Konasty: And so that way it's like the bed section can like... [427.42] Eric Konasty: You can have like a full-size bed in there if you want. [430.42] Eric Konasty: I could have shelves in there if I want for work, like work benches for... [433.42] Eric Konasty: When I go out on a production shoe, I could have like one side be a bed, [436.42] Eric Konasty: one side be a workbench. [439.42] Eric Konasty: I have the storage on the top that I can move everywhere. [443.42] Eric Konasty: Everything's modular. [444.42] Eric Konasty: I could like take out storage, bring in storage. [447.42] Eric Konasty: That's cool. [448.42] Eric Konasty: Even setting up like I have the toilet in there, everything too. [450.42] Eric Konasty: Like I could remove that whole unit out if I want to put it in. [453.42] Koel: I'm sorry. [454.42] Koel: Just completely custom as you go. [456.42] Eric Konasty: As I go, yeah, depending on what I'm doing. [458.42] Eric Konasty: I'm like, hey, I have a drone job this week. [460.42] Eric Konasty: Okay, I need like some extra room for like, you know, [462.42] Eric Konasty: maybe some bigger drones or some equipment. [464.42] Eric Konasty: Move these things around, lock everything in. [466.42] Eric Konasty: And then I need like my work table and a place to sleep at, [469.42] Eric Konasty: like if I get there early in the morning or something. [472.42] Tony: So yeah, that's really cool. [475.42] Tony: If Jack had a van like that, he would weld his toilet in there. [481.42] Eric Konasty: Welded in and out. [484.42] Tony: Just permanently welded in. [487.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, see, I didn't want anything permanent. [489.42] Eric Konasty: And I wanted to reduce as much like actually cutting into the van as possible [495.42] Eric Konasty: too, because then you have to deal with like sealants and stuff and all [498.42] Eric Konasty: this other crap. [499.42] Eric Konasty: And a lot of it's not needed. [501.42] Eric Konasty: I'm in like Southern California for the most part. [503.42] Eric Konasty: And our weather is usually pretty good. [505.42] Eric Konasty: So, you know, I didn't want to do too much. [507.42] Eric Konasty: Scene rust. [508.42] Jack: Do you know what that is? [509.42] Eric Konasty: Oh, yeah. [510.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, we're by the beach. [511.42] Eric Konasty: So you get rust. [512.42] Jack: Oh, really? [513.42] Eric Konasty: The sea salt will rust stuff out. [515.42] Eric Konasty: Like if you are looking for a car, look for a car, like a used car. [519.42] Eric Konasty: Usually you look in wind. [520.42] Eric Konasty: You don't want to buy them from like the beach areas because they're [522.42] Eric Konasty: usually like got some rust. [524.42] Jack: Have you ever, you know, like California, I've only ever seen it like [528.42] Jack: on Instagram, whatever. [529.42] Jack: Have you ever had a dash where you just tap it and the dashboard [533.42] Jack: of the vehicle just cracks and blows apart? [536.42] Eric Konasty: Oh, yeah. [538.42] Eric Konasty: The sun dries. [540.42] Eric Konasty: Like the older vehicles are like that. [542.42] Eric Konasty: Like a lot of them just had cracks going down the dash and stuff. [545.42] Eric Konasty: But most everybody would just use like a dash cover, you know? [548.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [549.42] Eric Konasty: And then that would protect it for the whole time. [551.42] Eric Konasty: The screens and stuff. [553.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [554.42] Jack: Yeah. [555.42] Jack: No, I've never liked because we don't know what sun is. [558.42] Jack: I mean, me and Tony are like white as fuck. [561.42] Jack: Like we are. [562.42] Jack: We're deficient in so many vitamins, even though he's vegan. [567.42] Jack: You know, we just. [568.42] Jack: Yeah. [569.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, you could get like, like in a car. [573.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, that's why they have like so many, like, like it's against [576.42] Eric Konasty: the law to leave like pets and kids in a car because like here [579.42] Eric Konasty: he could get in like, you know, high hundred and like 30 degrees [583.42] Eric Konasty: Fahrenheit or something in a car. [585.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [587.42] Eric Konasty: Like Richard. [588.42] Jack: Yeah. [589.42] Jack: Richard Warwick's asking, wondering if Eric's doing any movie slash [592.42] Jack: TV gigs at the moment. [594.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [595.42] Eric Konasty: I'm I'm always on the TV show SWAT for CBS. [601.42] Eric Konasty: That's like a current gig. [603.42] Eric Konasty: So I'm like forever. [604.42] Eric Konasty: Basically, I film for that show. [608.42] Eric Konasty: That's basically like what keeps me busy every month, every week [612.42] Eric Konasty: or every other week or something. [614.42] Jack: I've never seen it. [615.42] Koel: I just saw it on Netflix the other day, actually, with Shamar Moore. [620.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [621.42] Koel: Yeah. [622.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [623.42] Koel: Yeah. [624.42] Koel: It was like scrolling through Netflix. [625.42] Koel: I saw that's really cool. [626.42] Koel: I didn't know. [627.42] Koel: I didn't know you were working on that. [628.42] Koel: Thanks. [629.42] Tony: Yeah. [630.42] Eric Konasty: I think we get that here. [631.42] Eric Konasty: You could on demand it, I think, anywhere, basically. [634.42] Eric Konasty: I think it's on demand like YouTube TV or on. [639.42] Eric Konasty: What are those other ones? [642.42] Eric Konasty: We don't have who I think. [645.42] Jack: No, we don't get any. [646.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [647.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [648.42] Eric Konasty: But a lot of those like streaming type of services should have it [652.42] Eric Konasty: like on. [653.42] Jack: We get Netflix and it's like pretty locked. [656.42] Jack: Yeah. [657.42] Eric Konasty: But yeah, for the most part, I mean, you know, you see FPV stuff [661.42] Eric Konasty: or like some sort of like, you know, you're like, oh, that's a drone [664.42] Eric Konasty: shot on the show SWAT. [666.42] Eric Konasty: And that's like I'm always sharing on my TV or film. [670.42] Tony: If there's a film or TV show, I'm like, don't you just [676.42] Jack: just is it real or is it a drama? [680.42] Eric Konasty: It's like action drama. [682.42] Eric Konasty: Okay. [683.42] Jack: Cool. [684.42] Jack: No worries. [685.42] Eric Konasty: Because I was like, you remember the old movie slot, like the [688.42] Eric Konasty: original movie? [689.42] Eric Konasty: No, it's based off that movie. [691.42] Eric Konasty: Is it the TV show? [693.42] Jack: Okay. [694.42] Jack: No worries. [695.42] Jack: Because I was like, Eric's just like flying quads into [698.42] Jack: the teenager's bedrooms, who like streaming and maybe in [701.42] Jack: Swatted. [702.42] Eric Konasty: Oh, like streaming, getting swatted streaming. [705.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [706.42] Eric Konasty: No, this is like, this is a SWAT team, like police SWAT team [709.42] Eric Konasty: stuff. [710.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [711.42] Eric Konasty: No worries. [712.42] Koel: Yeah. [713.42] Koel: Eric, you're talking about the SWAT movie. [714.42] Koel: You're talking about the one with like Samuel Jackson. [716.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [717.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [718.42] Koel: Nice. [719.42] Koel: Yeah. [720.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [721.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [722.42] Eric Konasty: Like, I think there's like two or three, but yeah, just, uh, [724.42] Eric Konasty: that's like my, my ongoing current. [727.42] Eric Konasty: Like the, the, the, the, uh, the, the production stuff that I'm [730.42] Eric Konasty: doing. [731.42] Eric Konasty: And then, uh, like I just recently did a thing with Red Bull that [735.42] Eric Konasty: just came out on Red Bull, um, motorsports on their YouTube. [739.42] Jack: Um, [740.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah, that's all your like motocross and everything, isn't it? [743.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [744.42] Eric Konasty: So that just came out over there. [745.42] Eric Konasty: Uh, did that. [747.42] Eric Konasty: That was at a. [750.42] Eric Konasty: The Indianapolis Raceway or like the brickyard or whatever they call [753.42] Eric Konasty: over there. [754.42] Eric Konasty: Um, they're going to be doing like a big, like super cross event there, [756.42] Eric Konasty: but they're not going to be doing that. [757.42] Eric Konasty: They're not going to be doing that. [758.42] Eric Konasty: They're not going to be doing that. [759.42] Eric Konasty: They're not going to be doing that. [760.42] Eric Konasty: They're not going to be doing that. [761.42] Eric Konasty: So they just put that video out. [762.42] Eric Konasty: Um, but, uh, [764.42] Eric Konasty: But yeah, I mean, just like whatever kind of comes up, [767.42] Eric Konasty: got something here in like a couple of weeks, some. [770.42] Tony: Thing I think doing for like an airlines company or something like that. [773.42] Eric Konasty: So what are you shooting with at the moment? [775.42] Tony: What camera? [776.42] Tony: Um, [777.42] Tony: Do they still come company still take GoPro shots? [781.42] Eric Konasty: Oh, a hundred percent. [782.42] Eric Konasty: Most everything on SWAT on that show is done with a hero, [785.42] Eric Konasty: a lot of stuff. [786.42] Eric Konasty: So like, not even just me flying. [788.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, like, you know, they're mounting it on, on like the guys, [791.42] Eric Konasty: they're putting it in cars, they're doing it. [793.42] Eric Konasty: Like there's a lot of GoPros being used out there for a lot of different [797.42] Eric Konasty: shots. [798.42] Eric Konasty: Like GoPro is still on every set for sure. [801.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, it's a good little action camera. [803.42] Koel: I mean, yeah, they're getting it's pretty. [806.42] Koel: Isn't it? [807.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [808.42] Eric Konasty: It's just like in our realm, [810.42] Eric Konasty: everybody tries to push and show like Komodo's stuff so much that everybody [815.42] Eric Konasty: thinks like, if it's not Komodo now, it's not like, it's not cool. [819.42] Eric Konasty: It's still so much good. [821.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, I talked to some guys are like, Oh, [823.42] Eric Konasty: I only shoot with like Komodo's now. [825.42] Eric Konasty: I'm like, yeah. [826.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, cause that's like, I guess what you're choosing or like the, [828.42] Eric Konasty: it happens to be like the directors or whoever you just are working with. [831.42] Eric Konasty: Like they're on that same hype of Komodo's to where, uh, [835.42] Eric Konasty: like say a show like SWAT, they're like, dude, we're going to have like, [839.42] Eric Konasty: you know, a bunch of crazy action going on. [842.42] Eric Konasty: And you might just smash that thing. [845.42] Eric Konasty: Um, going through like fireballs going through this going through like [848.42] Eric Konasty: whatever and everything. [849.42] Eric Konasty: And they're like, we don't need to really risk that when we know we could just [852.42] Eric Konasty: get the shot with a, with a GoPro. [854.42] Eric Konasty: And it looks great. [855.42] Eric Konasty: Cause you have to think a lot of this stuff is like, [857.42] Eric Konasty: like they're cutting clips like every like couple seconds. [861.42] Eric Konasty: I mean, like there's no difference. [864.42] Eric Konasty: But it's like, they're just cutting so fast and everything. [868.42] Eric Konasty: And it creates like, you know, more and more action that way. [872.42] Eric Konasty: But, uh, but yeah, I mean, I'll, I'll be out there for a full, like, you know, [877.42] Eric Konasty: the whole day shooting, like going through 40 batteries or something. [882.42] Eric Konasty: Nonstop filming. [884.42] Eric Konasty: And then if I go and walk, go back and watch the show, [887.42] Eric Konasty: I probably have a total of like 15 seconds, like clips time in that show. [892.42] Eric Konasty: Like it's great. [893.42] Eric Konasty: That's how fast they like cut and like chopped it down, you know? [897.42] Koel: Yeah. I was just having a conversation with somebody about this, [899.42] Koel: about how like the whole sort of like semi lifter hype right now. [902.42] Koel: And I'm like, I mean, for the amount that you use a shot in a production, [907.42] Koel: how, with how good GoPros are getting, it's like, you know, [911.42] Koel: do you need to use it unless it's like a really specific thing, right? [915.42] Eric Konasty: Like, I mean, I think you need to use it in, yeah, [919.42] Eric Konasty: in like certain use areas. [921.42] Eric Konasty: Like if we're getting, if I'm doing like a car chase, [925.42] Eric Konasty: it's a longer car run shot, diving down everything. [929.42] Eric Konasty: We use a Komodo. [930.42] Eric Konasty: If I'm doing like inside shots where it's pretty slow, [934.42] Eric Konasty: I use like a ducted Komodo rig. [936.42] Eric Konasty: You know, I use the GoPros for certain stuff. [940.42] Eric Konasty: I've been on shoots where I use the 360 cameras, [942.42] Eric Konasty: like kind of like a range of like everything, [945.42] Eric Konasty: but like GoPros aren't like off the table. [949.42] Eric Konasty: Like they're still, they're still being used. [952.42] Tony: Oh yeah. [953.42] Tony: Well, they're like, they can shoot a hundred, [955.42] Tony: a hundred megabits now, can't they? [957.42] Tony: So the 10 can, I know that. [960.42] Tony: Can't shoot that high. [962.42] Koel: Well, it's got like what, five point something K, [965.42] Koel: like 120 frames per second or something. [969.42] Koel: And like, you know, flat, whatever. [971.42] Koel: Like, I mean, an editor is going to love that. [975.42] Tony: Hmm. [976.42] Tony: Yeah. [977.42] Tony: I still think they're going to be around for a long time. [979.42] Tony: Hopefully they'll keep going. [982.42] Tony: We'll get the 11, 12. [984.42] Tony: It's just going to keep going and going. [986.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [987.42] Eric Konasty: I believe right now they're working on like actually focusing [991.42] Eric Konasty: on like a one that'll be for FPV. [994.42] Koel: So bringing back the session, basically, hopefully. [997.42] Eric Konasty: Some sort of small platform type of thing like, [1001.42] Eric Konasty: but with like, you know, hero 10 guts basically. [1006.42] Eric Konasty: Nice. [1007.42] Eric Konasty: So, so they should be bringing, bringing something back for sure. [1011.42] Eric Konasty: But I'm lost. [1013.42] Koel: Yeah, exactly. Right. [1014.42] Koel: I've been hoarding hero five sessions. [1016.42] Tony: So maybe I should sell them. [1019.42] Tony: I've got two years deal. [1020.42] Eric Konasty: Let's see what shots are on here. [1022.42] Eric Konasty: That's a drone shot. [1023.42] Koel: Yeah. [1024.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1025.42] Eric Konasty: To that front window. [1026.42] Koel: And that was GoPro. [1028.42] Eric Konasty: That was, that was a GoPro. [1030.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1031.42] Eric Konasty: Cause they didn't want us ruining anything in there. [1032.42] Eric Konasty: Like the chandeliers and stuff. [1035.42] Tony: But they were shooting guns. [1037.42] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1038.42] Eric Konasty: I know. [1039.42] Eric Konasty: And then, uh, let's see, like these gate things, [1043.42] Eric Konasty: that's all like CGI. [1044.42] Eric Konasty: It's crazy. [1045.42] Koel: Huh? [1046.42] Eric Konasty: Like so much of stuff is like CGI. [1048.42] Eric Konasty: It's so nuts. [1050.42] Eric Konasty: And then, uh, I think, yeah, this guy does this part. [1054.42] Eric Konasty: And then there's, so this was like, [1055.42] Eric Konasty: I was there all day for that one little clip. [1059.42] Tony: Yeah. [1060.42] Eric Konasty: And then there's like, I think one more clip, like, [1064.42] Eric Konasty: yeah, like right here. [1066.42] Eric Konasty: See, they're like, oh, [1067.42] Eric Konasty: something's going down at the LA downtown. [1069.42] Eric Konasty: Like whatever crazy museum place. [1072.42] Eric Konasty: Let's get out there. [1073.42] Eric Konasty: Oh, hold on. [1075.42] Jack: Oh, ring notification. [1076.42] Jack: Yeah. [1077.42] Jack: It'll block your security system. [1081.42] Eric Konasty: And then I think there's like one other clip here. [1084.42] Jack: Man. [1086.79] Jack: That guy's facial hair is amazing. [1088.79] Eric Konasty: I know. [1089.79] Eric Konasty: It's like perfect. [1090.79] Jack: Jesus. [1091.79] Eric Konasty: Look at him. [1092.79] Eric Konasty: Look at the guy on the right. [1093.79] Jack: Like the version 2.0 of like the, um, [1098.79] Jack: the, uh, [1100.79] Eric Konasty: there's this part at like, [1102.79] Eric Konasty: I don't even remember where this, [1103.79] Jack: I know. [1104.79] Jack: Like he's like really looking at that phone and you know, [1107.79] Jack: there's nothing on there. [1108.79] Jack: Like from a standpoint is literally his mom. [1111.79] Jack: Oh yeah. [1112.79] Eric Konasty: Screen. [1113.79] Eric Konasty: The, the, the production stuff. [1114.79] Eric Konasty: So funny. [1115.79] Eric Konasty: Like, let me see. [1117.79] Eric Konasty: Go, go, go. [1118.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1119.79] Eric Konasty: And then this part's obviously. [1120.79] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1121.79] Eric Konasty: that's okay. [1122.79] Jack: Oh, [1123.79] Jack: baller. [1124.79] Jack: Did you actually fly underneath? [1126.79] Jack: Yeah. [1127.79] Eric Konasty: That was, yeah. [1128.79] Eric Konasty: If we were underneath that thing like six times. [1130.79] Eric Konasty: Hey, [1131.79] Eric Konasty: that is why. [1132.79] Tony: That's good. [1133.79] Tony: Sure. [1134.79] Eric Konasty: If, [1135.79] Tony: when you're, [1136.79] Tony: when you're in production, [1137.79] Tony: you literally do hours and hours and hours and hours. [1140.79] Tony: And then they take it all. [1142.79] Tony: And then you, [1143.79] Eric Konasty: that was like a 10 hour day. [1144.79] Eric Konasty: I was just like there. [1146.79] Eric Konasty: And then it was like, [1147.79] Eric Konasty: those are the two shots that were in there. [1149.79] Jack: Oh my God. [1150.79] Jack: Sit around. [1151.79] Jack: That was it. [1152.79] Eric Konasty: You're like, [1153.79] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1154.79] Eric Konasty: cool. [1155.79] Eric Konasty: There's another episode. [1156.79] Eric Konasty: I don't remember what it is. [1157.79] Eric Konasty: We did like boat chasing. [1158.79] Eric Konasty: That one was fun. [1159.79] Eric Konasty: Those were pretty cool. [1160.79] Tony: Well, [1161.79] Tony: I did the ocean. [1162.79] Eric Konasty: Uh, [1163.79] Eric Konasty: we were in like a bay with like on like some like crazy, [1167.79] Eric Konasty: like multimillion dollar speed boats. [1169.79] Eric Konasty: And there was like a hostage situation and they're like, [1172.79] Eric Konasty: like that. [1173.79] Eric Konasty: And they had the stunt guys jumping from like boat to boat. [1175.79] Eric Konasty: And like, [1176.79] Eric Konasty: I was like flying like right in under them when they were like jumping [1178.79] Eric Konasty: over and stuff. [1179.79] Eric Konasty: Like wow. [1180.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah, [1181.79] Eric Konasty: it was pretty fun. [1182.79] Eric Konasty: I was on a barge like this. [1183.79] Eric Konasty: They had this like little, [1184.79] Eric Konasty: like really fast barge that could keep up with them. [1188.79] Eric Konasty: And I was just basically like positioning myself against this little [1192.79] Eric Konasty: wall that was on there to stay steady. [1194.79] Eric Konasty: Cause we're on the water hauling ass and they had a, [1196.79] Eric Konasty: like a big like, [1198.79] Eric Konasty: like crane arm like set up off the front of the barge to like film [1203.79] Eric Konasty: stuff also. [1204.79] Eric Konasty: And then I was like flying around while they were doing that. [1207.79] Tony: Coming into the quick. [1209.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1210.79] Eric Konasty: They're like, do you need to like, uh, [1211.79] Eric Konasty: what did they call it? [1212.79] Eric Konasty: Like drama mean or something? [1213.79] Eric Konasty: I was like, I don't know, man. [1215.79] Eric Konasty: I'm on a barge. [1216.79] Eric Konasty: Like I could just puke over the side, right? [1218.79] Eric Konasty: Like there's no walls or nothing. [1221.79] Koel: So when you're doing those kinds of shots, [1223.79] Koel: like is your heart racing? [1225.79] Eric Konasty: Uh, [1228.79] Eric Konasty: kinda. [1229.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1230.79] Eric Konasty: A little bit. [1231.79] Eric Konasty: I don't know if it's racing in the, [1233.79] Eric Konasty: in the factor of like, [1235.79] Eric Konasty: like the flying portion of it, [1237.79] Eric Konasty: or if it's more racing just because I'm just like in a weird situation, [1241.79] Eric Konasty: like where I'm like, [1242.79] Eric Konasty: like, [1243.79] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1244.79] Eric Konasty: like I need to like keep myself steady and hold myself up. [1247.79] Eric Konasty: Like, [1248.79] Eric Konasty: yeah, [1249.79] Eric Konasty: I'm sure that elevates it a little more than an actual, [1251.79] Eric Konasty: like the actual flying then is like, [1252.79] Eric Konasty: okay, [1253.79] Eric Konasty: I could fly this thing if I'm like this, [1254.79] Eric Konasty: like, [1255.79] Eric Konasty: okay, [1256.79] Eric Konasty: this should be fine. [1257.79] Koel: Just your body. [1258.79] Koel: So you're in a comfortable position where you're like stable, [1260.79] Koel: even though everything's like moving around, [1262.79] Koel: right? [1263.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1264.79] Eric Konasty: And then you're like, [1265.79] Eric Konasty: you're mentally like you're in the goggles and you're thinking and [1266.79] Eric Konasty: you're like, [1267.79] Eric Konasty: hopefully nobody just like bumps me right now. [1269.79] Eric Konasty: Cause there's like a bunch of people on there at the same time, [1271.79] Eric Konasty: like moving around, [1272.79] Eric Konasty: looking at cameras and this and that you're just kinda. [1276.79] Koel: Yes. [1277.79] Koel: One, [1278.79] Koel: one little bump. [1279.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1280.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1281.79] Tony: Especially when you're over water. [1282.79] Tony: Yeah. [1283.79] Tony: The water is scary. [1284.79] Tony: I've done shots where I'm in a car and I'm just like, [1286.79] Tony: I just feel, [1287.79] Tony: get so sick, [1288.79] Tony: so quick. [1289.79] Tony: This is horrible. [1290.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1291.79] Eric Konasty: I think cars are a little bit more difficult because like the nice [1295.79] Eric Konasty: thing with the boat is the guy is usually on the throttle or he's not. [1299.79] Eric Konasty: Right. [1300.79] Eric Konasty: So it's like, [1301.79] Eric Konasty: when you feel that thing coming off the throttle, [1303.79] Eric Konasty: you could kind of like just go back and kind of move, [1305.79] Eric Konasty: like feel it even the left and right, [1307.79] Eric Konasty: like on a boat, [1308.79] Eric Konasty: it like moves like a little bit more predictable. [1311.79] Eric Konasty: But like when you're driving with somebody, [1313.79] Eric Konasty: even when you're driving with somebody on the normal, [1315.79] Eric Konasty: you get a one person, [1316.79] Eric Konasty: they're always like riding the brakes or you get the guy that's always [1319.79] Eric Konasty: like, he hits the gas and he lets off the gas, hits the gas, [1322.79] Eric Konasty: lets off the gas. [1323.79] Eric Konasty: It's the, you know, [1324.79] Eric Konasty: so you don't get a guy that's like consistently on the gas or [1327.79] Eric Konasty: consistently not. [1328.79] Eric Konasty: So usually when I have to do like any type of shots where I'm in a [1333.79] Eric Konasty: moving vehicle, [1334.79] Eric Konasty: I first thing I do is I sit in the passenger seat, [1336.79] Eric Konasty: I get comfortable with my radio. [1338.79] Eric Konasty: I turn to the guy and go, [1339.79] Eric Konasty: Hey, all right, [1340.79] Eric Konasty: I think we're supposed to be going at least maybe like 45. [1343.79] Eric Konasty: Just keep it at that. [1344.79] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [1345.79] Eric Konasty: don't go on and off the throttle. [1346.79] Eric Konasty: Don't do like, [1347.79] Eric Konasty: say as smooth as possible for me, [1349.79] Eric Konasty: please. [1350.79] Eric Konasty: And they're like, [1351.79] Eric Konasty: okay. [1352.79] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [1353.79] Eric Konasty: cause that'll just make it way easier for everybody. [1354.79] Jack: Are you flying on a logo? [1356.79] Jack: Did you? [1357.79] Eric Konasty: Uh, [1358.79] Eric Konasty: on all the production stuff is, [1359.79] Eric Konasty: is a digital because we have to, [1361.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1362.79] Eric Konasty: send out a link to the video village for the, [1365.79] Eric Konasty: um, [1366.79] Eric Konasty: producers and the directors to watch everything. [1368.79] Koel: They don't want, [1369.79] Eric Konasty: they don't want to see snowy analog. [1371.79] Koel: No. [1372.79] Koel: So do you have like a video transmitter hooked out HDMI out of the goggles [1375.79] Koel: then? [1376.79] Eric Konasty: Uh, yeah. [1377.79] Eric Konasty: So like it goes from the USB C. [1381.79] Eric Konasty: Oh yeah. [1382.79] Eric Konasty: And the DJI goggles into a SDI's, [1385.79] Eric Konasty: um, [1386.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1387.79] Eric Konasty: like HDMI to SDI box. [1389.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1390.79] Eric Konasty: And then they take the SDI down to, [1392.79] Eric Konasty: you know, [1393.79] Eric Konasty: cable it down to wherever their video villages. [1395.79] Eric Konasty: So, [1396.79] Eric Konasty: okay. [1397.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1398.79] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1399.79] Eric Konasty: on those shoots, [1400.79] Eric Konasty: there's like just wires going everywhere. [1401.79] Eric Konasty: So it's like, [1402.79] Eric Konasty: you know, [1403.79] Eric Konasty: it's like going down a whole street for like a mile, [1405.79] Eric Konasty: it seems like. [1406.79] Eric Konasty: Right. [1407.79] Eric Konasty: So they could get a signal. [1408.79] Tony: And there's like interference and 5.8 stuff about on you. [1413.79] Tony: Yeah. [1414.79] Eric Konasty: Like there's like the pterodactics, [1415.79] Eric Konasty: like the big, [1416.79] Eric Konasty: their, [1417.79] Eric Konasty: their wireless systems and stuff too. [1418.79] Eric Konasty: Like I ran into some issues with that where it's blown out my, [1421.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1422.79] Eric Konasty: my digital signal and stuff. [1423.79] Eric Konasty: And so I've had a couple issues, [1426.79] Eric Konasty: um, [1427.79] Eric Konasty: with stuff, [1428.79] Eric Konasty: explosions mess, [1429.79] Eric Konasty: mess, [1430.79] Eric Konasty: will mess you up. [1431.79] Eric Konasty: That's for sure. [1432.79] Eric Konasty: Um, [1433.79] Eric Konasty: for some, [1434.79] Eric Konasty: with the digital link for some reason. [1435.79] Eric Konasty: Really? [1436.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1437.79] Eric Konasty: Like you have to time your explosions to like fly through them or, [1439.79] Eric Konasty: or like around them because, [1440.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1441.79] Eric Konasty: that little, [1442.79] Eric Konasty: like it overheats the unit. [1443.79] Eric Konasty: Well, [1444.79] Eric Konasty: I think it overheats the unit really fast. [1446.79] Tony: Oh. [1447.79] Tony: Yeah. [1448.79] Eric Konasty: It gives it like a tremendous burst of heat. [1450.79] Eric Konasty: So you either have to like be right before, [1453.79] Eric Konasty: like, [1454.79] Eric Konasty: you know, [1455.79] Eric Konasty: like how there's almost like a little shockwave to an explosion of like [1456.79] Eric Konasty: heat. [1457.79] Eric Konasty: You either have to be like right before it, [1459.79] Eric Konasty: which you would normally you missed a shot. [1462.79] Eric Konasty: Cause like you, [1463.79] Eric Konasty: like you're a little wrong time or you have to be like, [1465.79] Eric Konasty: like a little bit right. [1468.79] Eric Konasty: The thing happens and then you fly through it. [1470.79] Eric Konasty: So. [1471.79] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1472.79] Eric Konasty: Sometimes it hasn't happened, [1474.79] Eric Konasty: but like it has like, [1476.79] Eric Konasty: like I've totally flown through one and I'm like, [1478.79] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1479.79] Eric Konasty: instantly black. [1480.79] Eric Konasty: Okay, cool. [1481.79] Eric Konasty: And I just like, [1482.79] Eric Konasty: I'll remember my surroundings. [1483.79] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [1484.79] Eric Konasty: I could fly to the right and I have like my tech with me and everybody [1486.79] Eric Konasty: like spot or wherever. [1487.79] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [1488.79] Eric Konasty: Hey, I'm going to the right. [1489.79] Eric Konasty: I'm going to ditch it. [1490.79] Eric Konasty: Like now. [1491.79] Eric Konasty: And I just ditch it and it just lands and we just go grab it and [1493.79] Eric Konasty: whatever. [1494.79] Eric Konasty: Um, [1495.79] Eric Konasty: that's in a case why sometimes, [1496.79] Eric Konasty: you know, [1497.79] Eric Konasty: we'll use those, [1498.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1499.79] Eric Konasty: GoPro rigs because. [1500.79] Eric Konasty: That. [1502.79] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience, [1505.79] Frank: downloaded and edited to make sense when it played audio only sensors [1509.79] Frank: to please the iTunes people hosted on the internet, [1511.79] Frank: forwarded through to your podcast provider, [1513.79] Frank: downloaded, [1514.79] Frank: playing on your device and is now playing in your ears. [1517.79] Frank: All thanks to our Patreons. [1519.79] Frank: Consider joining them. [1520.79] Frank: And you'll also get other online benefits. [1522.79] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com forward slash let's drone out. [1527.79] Jack: I don't know about you, man, [1528.79] Jack: but like, [1529.79] Jack: have you, [1530.79] Jack: have you noticed like the sort of rise and fall of FPV? [1535.79] Jack: Like, [1536.79] Jack: um, [1537.79] Jack: you were, [1538.79] Jack: you were doing it during the massive boom of like, [1540.79] Eric Konasty: so I feel like I've been through every wave just cause I've been [1542.79] Eric Konasty: doing it for like seven years now or whatever it is. [1545.79] Eric Konasty: Um, [1546.79] Tony: at the same time as us look, [1548.79] Tony: I think. [1549.79] Eric Konasty: And, [1550.79] Eric Konasty: and, [1551.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1552.79] Eric Konasty: I don't know. [1553.79] Eric Konasty: It just goes in like these different waves. [1554.79] Eric Konasty: You know what I mean? [1555.79] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1556.79] Eric Konasty: like, [1557.79] Eric Konasty: uh, [1560.17] Eric Konasty: so like right now I feel like it's kind of in a different space of like, [1564.17] Eric Konasty: like the freestyle wave isn't really there as it used to be. [1567.17] Eric Konasty: I feel like, [1568.17] Eric Konasty: um, [1569.17] Eric Konasty: cause everybody's now trying to like do this whole pro thing of like, [1572.17] Eric Konasty: going pro, [1573.17] Eric Konasty: um, [1574.17] Eric Konasty: whatever that means. [1575.17] Eric Konasty: And, [1576.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1577.17] Eric Konasty: and yeah, [1578.17] Eric Konasty: I think, [1579.17] Eric Konasty: I think that's where like the space is at. [1580.17] Eric Konasty: So like everybody's trying to make like some sort of like, [1582.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1583.17] Eric Konasty: sinner lifter or something or like trying to get jobs and all this stuff [1586.17] Eric Konasty: doing it. [1587.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1588.17] Eric Konasty: it's kind of like, [1589.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1590.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1591.17] Eric Konasty: trying to make the, [1592.17] Eric Konasty: like, [1593.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1594.17] Eric Konasty: if you build that, [1595.17] Eric Konasty: they will come type of type of thing. [1596.17] Eric Konasty: But, [1597.17] Eric Konasty: um, [1598.17] Eric Konasty: like, [1599.17] Eric Konasty: I don't think a lot of people know that like for that portion of it, [1601.17] Eric Konasty: it's a lot of building and building and building and building, [1604.17] Eric Konasty: building before it comes. [1606.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, [1607.17] Eric Konasty: so. [1608.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1609.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1610.17] Eric Konasty: I don't know. [1611.17] Eric Konasty: I think the hobby section of it, [1612.17] Eric Konasty: I think it's doing okay. [1613.17] Eric Konasty: Honestly, [1614.17] Eric Konasty: it's not bad. [1615.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1616.17] Eric Konasty: I think the attention is just different is what it is. [1619.17] Eric Konasty: So, [1620.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1621.17] Eric Konasty: like, [1622.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1623.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1624.17] Eric Konasty: you see how many ready to Pfizer are now? [1625.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1626.17] Tony: Like, [1627.17] Tony: it's so much easier to get into. [1628.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1629.17] Eric Konasty: So many companies have ready to flies and things and like all this stuff to [1631.17] Eric Konasty: where it's like, [1632.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1634.17] Eric Konasty: obviously they're doing it for a reason because they know people are [1636.17] Eric Konasty: interested in it and they're, [1638.17] Eric Konasty: they're buying it up. [1639.17] Eric Konasty: Like how, [1640.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1641.17] Eric Konasty: I fight like how many, [1642.17] Eric Konasty: how many of those do you think they sell? [1643.17] Eric Konasty: They sell like tons of ready to flies, [1645.17] Eric Konasty: insane amounts. [1646.17] Eric Konasty: Like every creator wants to have FPV in their shots now or something like on, [1650.17] Eric Konasty: on YouTube or something, [1651.17] Eric Konasty: even if they're not like a drone creator, [1654.17] Eric Konasty: they want to have that look or something like that in their shots. [1657.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [1658.17] Koel: yeah. [1659.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1660.17] Eric Konasty: or they want to learn to fly. [1661.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1662.17] Eric Konasty: they do so many different like creators that have nothing to do with FPV. [1666.17] Eric Konasty: Just like with the stuff that I do like outside of all this, [1669.17] Eric Konasty: like, [1670.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1671.17] Eric Konasty: um, [1672.17] Eric Konasty: like a lot of those motocross guys and stuff too, [1673.17] Eric Konasty: and everything I film with them and they have their like own editors and [1676.17] Eric Konasty: filmers out there. [1677.17] Eric Konasty: And there, [1678.17] Eric Konasty: those guys are creators too. [1679.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1680.17] Eric Konasty: a lot of them have like massive followings and stuff and all of them are [1682.17] Eric Konasty: like, [1683.17] Eric Konasty: dude, [1684.17] Eric Konasty: I need FPV shots in my stuff. [1685.17] Eric Konasty: Like I need to learn to fly. [1686.17] Eric Konasty: I need to do this. [1687.17] Eric Konasty: So like everybody knows it now before it was like a small group of us. [1690.17] Eric Konasty: Like we had our little, [1691.17] Eric Konasty: like we were the nerds of like drones, you know, [1693.17] Eric Konasty: and I still feel like basement dwellers. [1697.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1698.17] Jack: Yeah. [1699.17] Jack: Niffing each other. [1703.17] Jack: Yeah. [1704.17] Eric Konasty: And so I think it's just more mainstream now to where like, [1707.17] Eric Konasty: it's kind of like spread out everywhere. [1709.17] Eric Konasty: So you got like, [1710.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1711.17] Eric Konasty: this dude over here, [1712.17] Eric Konasty: he's just using drones to film whatever it is. [1714.17] Eric Konasty: And this guy over here is like diehard FPV freestyle guy. [1717.17] Eric Konasty: And you know, [1718.17] Eric Konasty: like I think it just spread out, [1720.17] Eric Konasty: but overall I think it's still pretty good. [1722.17] Eric Konasty: It's just that the audience is different now. [1725.17] Tony: So you might be right there. [1727.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1728.17] Eric Konasty: And that's why I can't ever really like put my finger on something now to [1732.17] Eric Konasty: where it was like, [1733.17] Eric Konasty: this is how you grow and get big in FPV. [1736.17] Eric Konasty: This is how you grow your YouTube channel or like anything. [1738.17] Eric Konasty: It's like, [1739.17] Eric Konasty: you really, [1740.17] Eric Konasty: there's no specifics because before I was like, [1741.17] Eric Konasty: Oh dude, [1742.17] Eric Konasty: if I like dive like all these buildings, [1743.17] Eric Konasty: I'll get all the attention and then like everybody will subscribe to me or [1746.17] Eric Konasty: like whatever. [1747.17] Eric Konasty: Or if I'm like, [1748.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1749.17] Eric Konasty: doing this crazy ass or I can Bali or something and like, [1751.17] Eric Konasty: whatever. [1752.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, [1753.17] Eric Konasty: now people see that and they're just like, [1754.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1755.17] Eric Konasty: cool. [1756.17] Eric Konasty: Okay. [1757.17] Eric Konasty: Flip. [1758.17] Eric Konasty: Next one. [1759.17] Tony: Next one. [1760.17] Eric Konasty: They just keep scrolling. [1761.17] Eric Konasty: So I don't know how much of that transfers over to the views. [1763.17] Eric Konasty: There's very few people. [1765.17] Eric Konasty: I think that, [1766.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1767.17] Eric Konasty: like that blow up, [1769.17] Eric Konasty: like it's Ken, [1770.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1771.17] Eric Konasty: that guy, [1772.17] Eric Konasty: it's Ken FPV. [1773.17] Eric Konasty: Everybody's pretty much like that guy blew up this like last year. [1776.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1777.17] Eric Konasty: but right place, [1778.17] Eric Konasty: right time started posting a bunch of stuff on Tik TOK. [1780.17] Eric Konasty: Tik TOK was kind of like getting just a lot of stuff. [1783.17] Eric Konasty: He just pushed everything to that. [1786.17] Eric Konasty: And, [1787.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1788.17] Eric Konasty: like that kind of blew him up. [1789.17] Eric Konasty: Like amazing pilot, [1790.17] Eric Konasty: right? [1791.17] Eric Konasty: Doing crazy. [1792.17] Eric Konasty: Like he flies a pretty much, [1793.17] Eric Konasty: I think like he's in Germany maybe or something. [1796.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1797.17] Eric Konasty: and they've like him and a group of guys, [1799.17] Eric Konasty: like you could tell they fly the same abandoned place. [1802.17] Eric Konasty: It seems like, [1803.17] Eric Konasty: or the same like, [1804.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1805.17] Eric Konasty: they fly the same abandoned places and he just, [1807.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1808.17] Eric Konasty: he rips through there every time. [1809.17] Eric Konasty: And so, [1810.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1811.17] Eric Konasty: Tik TOK's coming out, [1812.17] Eric Konasty: people see that and they're like, [1813.17] Eric Konasty: what, [1814.17] Eric Konasty: like this isn't a video game. [1815.17] Eric Konasty: Is someone doing it real, [1816.17] Eric Konasty: like real time? [1817.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1818.17] Eric Konasty: He does like stupid stuff there. [1819.17] Eric Konasty: And he's so comfortable. [1820.17] Eric Konasty: You could tell it those, [1821.17] Eric Konasty: those places he knows it in and out, [1823.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1824.17] Eric Konasty: and he could just rip through there. [1825.17] Eric Konasty: And, [1826.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1827.17] Eric Konasty: yeah. [1828.17] Eric Konasty: So it's like so much of it is timing. [1829.17] Eric Konasty: So much of it is just like having a passion for something and just like [1833.17] Eric Konasty: doing it over and over and over. [1836.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [1837.17] Eric Konasty: and stuff like that. [1838.17] Eric Konasty: Like so many guys are like, [1839.17] Eric Konasty: I'm going to do FPV. [1840.17] Eric Konasty: I'm going to do crazy shit. [1841.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, nobody liked my stuff. [1842.17] Eric Konasty: All right. [1843.17] Eric Konasty: I'm out next hobby. [1844.17] Koel: Yeah. [1845.17] Koel: Yeah. [1846.17] Koel: You got to be in it for the long haul. [1847.17] Koel: If you want to actually get results and get better and then get [1849.17] Koel: recognition. [1850.17] Koel: Because like you said before, [1851.17] Koel: it's like you start somewhere, [1852.17] Koel: but it's a progression of building up. [1854.17] Koel: Like you can't just go from a to superstar overnight. [1857.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1858.17] Eric Konasty: And you can't just think like, [1859.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1860.17] Eric Konasty: I'm going to buy up all the gear and since I have all the gear, [1861.17] Eric Konasty: people are going to like, [1862.17] Eric Konasty: oh, [1863.17] Eric Konasty: you have to just get the work man. [1865.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1866.17] Koel: It's about like, [1867.17] Koel: he's using it, right? [1868.17] Koel: Like, [1869.17] Koel: yeah. [1870.17] Koel: He, [1871.17] Jack: he, [1872.17] Jack: he goes for a man. [1875.17] Jack: He is. [1876.17] Jack: He's good, right? [1877.17] Jack: Yeah. [1878.17] Jack: He's a bando basher. [1879.17] Jack: Fair play. [1880.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1881.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1882.17] Eric Konasty: He rips. [1883.17] Eric Konasty: That's what I'm saying. [1884.17] Eric Konasty: He rips through that. [1885.17] Eric Konasty: Like those, [1886.17] Eric Konasty: there's like a few bandos. [1887.17] Eric Konasty: I see him fly constantly. [1888.17] Eric Konasty: Yes. [1889.17] Eric Konasty: No, [1890.17] Eric Konasty: I could tell they're like, [1891.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1892.17] Eric Konasty: and I could see why, [1893.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1894.17] Eric Konasty: when he started posting a tick tock early on and people saw him ripping [1899.17] Eric Konasty: through there, [1900.17] Eric Konasty: they're just like, [1901.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, [1902.17] Tony: he's done that before, [1903.17] Tony: isn't he? [1904.17] Eric Konasty: So. [1905.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1906.17] Koel: See, [1907.17] Koel: I, [1908.17] Koel: one of the things too is like, [1909.17] Koel: if this is in your backyard and you can go there like whenever, [1912.17] Koel: like if that's your kind of like home base for flying, [1915.17] Koel: that's pretty epic. [1916.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1917.17] Eric Konasty: But see, [1918.17] Eric Konasty: I don't even know like, [1919.17] Eric Konasty: if that always even matters too, [1920.17] Eric Konasty: because I mean like, [1921.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [1922.17] Eric Konasty: what's that? [1923.17] Eric Konasty: What other guy? [1924.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [1925.17] Eric Konasty: like TV, [1926.17] Eric Konasty: ED or sort of pet or peds or something. [1928.17] Eric Konasty: I don't know. [1929.17] Eric Konasty: So I'm going to have PV like that guy. [1931.17] Eric Konasty: Amazing pilot to pet pet of X or something like that. [1935.17] Eric Konasty: Okay. [1936.17] Eric Konasty: Okay. [1937.17] Eric Konasty: Go back to, [1938.17] Eric Konasty: or you're on his YouTube, [1939.17] Eric Konasty: go back to where all his videos are and then go, [1942.17] Eric Konasty: go. [1943.17] Eric Konasty: I'm going to show you something. [1944.17] Eric Konasty: See where it says walls too. [1945.17] Koel: Yeah. [1946.17] Koel: To the four months ago, [1947.17] Eric Konasty: go to the right, [1948.17] Eric Konasty: right, [1949.17] Eric Konasty: right, [1950.17] Koel: right. [1951.17] Koel: Up, [1952.17] Eric Konasty: up on the first one. [1953.17] Koel: Up left. [1954.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1955.17] Koel: Right. [1956.17] Koel: No. [1957.17] Koel: Can you read? [1958.17] Koel: Up one, [1959.17] Koel: up one to the right one. [1960.17] Eric Konasty: Do you write one? [1961.17] Eric Konasty: I want a divorce. [1962.17] Eric Konasty: There you go. [1963.17] Eric Konasty: Okay. [1964.17] Eric Konasty: So if people say, [1965.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [1966.17] Eric Konasty: I don't have, [1967.17] Eric Konasty: I don't have a location to fly. [1969.17] Eric Konasty: Everybody has this location right here. [1972.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [1973.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [1974.17] Eric Konasty: I have not those dance moves though. [1976.17] Eric Konasty: Don't tell me I don't have this location, [1978.17] Eric Konasty: but watch how good he could just make a location like this. [1982.17] Jack: Like, [1983.17] Jack: yeah, [1984.17] Jack: but that is, [1985.17] Koel: that is big walls. [1986.17] Koel: We don't have that. [1987.17] Koel: Oh, nice. [1988.17] Eric Konasty: Nice. [1989.17] Eric Konasty: I'm just saying you can find a little railing like that. [1990.17] Eric Konasty: You can find one wall, [1991.17] Eric Konasty: you know? [1992.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1993.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [1994.17] Eric Konasty: You don't have, [1995.17] Eric Konasty: look at this is a corner of a wall that he's just making. [1998.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [1999.17] Jack: we're an audio podcast by the way. [2001.17] Jack: So keep talking, [2002.17] Jack: man. [2003.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2004.17] Eric Konasty: So, and it's like, look, [2005.17] Eric Konasty: he's going back through the house. [2006.17] Eric Konasty: That was some pallets. [2007.17] Eric Konasty: They just found in the back that they set up. [2009.17] Eric Konasty: You know what I mean? [2010.17] Koel: Yeah. [2011.17] Koel: Back of a home depot or something. [2012.17] Koel: Right. [2013.17] Eric Konasty: Back of a home depot or something like that. [2015.17] Eric Konasty: And it goes really like, [2016.17] Eric Konasty: I like about it. [2017.17] Eric Konasty: It goes, [2018.17] Eric Konasty: it goes really far back into like how it was when people started skating and [2021.17] Eric Konasty: stuff too. [2022.17] Eric Konasty: You know, [2023.17] Eric Konasty: you just find like one curb, [2025.17] Eric Konasty: one, [2026.17] Eric Konasty: one rail or something, [2027.17] Eric Konasty: and you could stay there all day and fly and do stuff. [2030.17] Eric Konasty: And so yeah, [2031.17] Eric Konasty: I think like, [2032.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2033.17] Eric Konasty: you don't need, [2034.17] Eric Konasty: you don't need, [2035.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2036.17] Eric Konasty: something crazy to always do something. [2038.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2039.17] Eric Konasty: he's flying like a back of basically like he said, [2041.17] Eric Konasty: like a home depot warehouse area. [2043.17] Tony: That is being key for our English listeners. [2046.17] Koel: Uh, yes. [2047.17] Koel: Well, [2048.17] Koel: it's so true though. [2049.17] Koel: Cause like, [2050.17] Koel: I mean, [2051.17] Koel: as far as skateboard, [2052.17] Koel: I mean, [2053.17] Koel: I grew up skateboarding and I really, [2054.17] Koel: I really FPV to skate or freestyle to skateboarding. [2056.17] Koel: It's like, [2057.17] Koel: it's almost the same thing. [2058.17] Koel: It's like, [2059.17] Koel: you know, [2060.17] Koel: you know what you do your tricks, [2062.17] Koel: you rip it up and it doesn't have to be super elaborate. [2065.17] Koel: It doesn't have to be a full skate park. [2066.17] Koel: You can still have tons of fun. [2068.17] Eric Konasty: Totally. [2069.17] Eric Konasty: And I think it's just one of those things where it's like you develop your [2071.17] Eric Konasty: style, [2072.17] Eric Konasty: your way of doing things and you just go out and do it. [2074.17] Eric Konasty: And like, [2075.17] Eric Konasty: either people are going to like it or people aren't going to like it. [2077.17] Eric Konasty: Like that's pretty much how, [2078.17] Eric Konasty: how it goes with everybody. [2079.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2080.17] Eric Konasty: there's like skateboarders that I was like, [2081.17] Eric Konasty: like, [2082.17] Eric Konasty: man, [2083.17] Eric Konasty: like I don't really like that guy's style. [2084.17] Eric Konasty: Like I'm not like really into it. [2085.17] Eric Konasty: But then there's a guy that like, [2086.17] Eric Konasty: like maybe lesser known or maybe really known or something. [2088.17] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [2089.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2090.17] Eric Konasty: it's just like just flows different. [2091.17] Eric Konasty: I think people need to look at that more instead of like trying to chase [2093.17] Eric Konasty: the views and trying to like make like instant money or something off of [2097.17] Eric Konasty: it or whatever. [2098.17] Eric Konasty: Find like a good style of yours, [2099.17] Eric Konasty: find some stuff, [2100.17] Eric Konasty: get a good flow going and then eventually like people are going to see [2104.17] Eric Konasty: those videos. [2105.17] Eric Konasty: If you're working hard at it and posting stuff out, [2107.17] Eric Konasty: people are going to see that. [2108.17] Eric Konasty: And when they need a pilot or somebody for a job, [2111.17] Eric Konasty: like trust me, [2112.17] Eric Konasty: a lot of these directors and everybody and everything that like hire people [2115.17] Eric Konasty: for these jobs. [2116.17] Eric Konasty: A lot of times they just, [2118.17] Eric Konasty: they want to find something that looks like a pilot that they're like, [2121.17] Eric Konasty: wow, this guy looks smooth. [2123.17] Eric Konasty: He looks like he's in control of everything. [2125.17] Eric Konasty: And you know, [2127.17] Eric Konasty: it's that's what they're looking for in a sense. [2130.17] Eric Konasty: It doesn't have to be like, [2131.17] Eric Konasty: you're just flying epic locations and that's how you're going to get noticed. [2133.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah, [2134.17] Eric Konasty: that stuff might help like some people and you might get a job or something [2138.17] Eric Konasty: or two out of it, [2139.17] Eric Konasty: but you should just be going out there and flying every day. [2141.17] Eric Konasty: Like I did, [2142.17] Eric Konasty: I go out and I fly and like, [2144.17] Eric Konasty: I'll pick a, [2145.17] Eric Konasty: like a, [2146.17] Eric Konasty: a bush or something just random. [2148.17] Eric Konasty: And I try and just center my frame on that constantly. [2152.17] Eric Konasty: Keep it in frame, [2153.17] Eric Konasty: like coming from a dive, [2154.17] Eric Konasty: keeping it in frame and like go over the top of all these shots that I know I [2158.17] Eric Konasty: have to do day in, [2159.17] Eric Konasty: day out on like a job. [2161.17] Eric Konasty: I practice those things. [2162.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2163.17] Eric Konasty: It doesn't really look like much, [2164.17] Eric Konasty: but for me that's I'm like, [2165.17] Eric Konasty: okay, [2166.17] Eric Konasty: I need to focus on some of this stuff because when I'm out there on a job or [2170.17] Eric Konasty: something, [2171.17] Eric Konasty: I only get like one or two takes. [2172.17] Eric Konasty: Like it's not like the, [2173.17] Eric Konasty: like their focus isn't drone like or anything like you're there to get those [2177.17] Eric Konasty: couple, [2178.17] Eric Konasty: a couple of shots. [2179.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2180.17] Eric Konasty: They're like, all right, [2181.17] Eric Konasty: drone, [2182.17] Eric Konasty: you're up. [2183.17] Eric Konasty: You got two shots at this. [2184.17] Eric Konasty: If you don't get it, [2185.17] Eric Konasty: we're going to the next like scene. [2186.17] Eric Konasty: So you want to be able to land that in the one or two shots and have them be [2190.17] Eric Konasty: like, wow, [2191.17] Eric Konasty: this guy like nailed that shot right away. [2192.17] Eric Konasty: Like we're bringing them back next week. [2194.17] Eric Konasty: And it kind of like goes from there and not every shot is like going to work [2198.17] Eric Konasty: that way. [2199.17] Eric Konasty: Sometimes like it just doesn't, [2200.17] Eric Konasty: but you know, [2201.17] Eric Konasty: if you give it a hundred percent, [2203.17] Eric Konasty: most likely that you give them something usable. [2205.17] Eric Konasty: And if you go out there and practice every day and you do that stuff and you [2207.17] Eric Konasty: just post those type of things, [2209.17] Eric Konasty: then you know, [2211.17] Eric Konasty: like find what's in your backyard, [2212.17] Eric Konasty: like find, [2213.17] Eric Konasty: find what's what's around your area. [2215.17] Eric Konasty: Like for me, [2217.17] Eric Konasty: I got lucky too with like the motocross guys out here. [2221.17] Eric Konasty: It's like perfect for me. [2222.17] Eric Konasty: Like they're practicing. [2224.17] Eric Konasty: They need quips for content. [2226.17] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [2227.17] Eric Konasty: I need to practice like chasing guys and like you being up in the air and [2230.17] Eric Konasty: stuff's like perfect and all that stuff for it. [2232.17] Eric Konasty: Like I'll do that for my practice and then I'll give you the free content [2237.17] Eric Konasty: and I'll take some free content. [2238.17] Eric Konasty: So sometimes it's like, [2239.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2240.17] Eric Konasty: if you have that in your backyard, [2241.17] Eric Konasty: try and just hit those guys up or do something and be like, [2243.17] Eric Konasty: Hey, [2244.17] Eric Konasty: like want to trade for free content, [2246.17] Eric Konasty: whatever, [2247.17] Eric Konasty: because like that'll help me with like work basically. [2251.17] Koel: Yeah. [2252.17] Koel: One thing I was going to say too, [2253.17] Koel: is go ahead Tony. [2255.17] Tony: No, I was just saying, [2256.17] Tony: that's really, [2257.17] Tony: really good advice. [2258.17] Koel: Really good. [2259.17] Koel: Yeah. [2260.17] Koel: Oh, [2261.17] Koel: I was just going to say cause it's one thing to just go out and fly, [2263.17] Koel: but if you don't have a subject to like track or practice, [2266.17] Koel: it might not be as useful for what you're doing, right? [2269.17] Koel: Eric, [2270.17] Koel: like it's probably nice to have a subject to be able to, [2272.17] Koel: you know, [2273.17] Koel: Yeah. [2274.17] Eric Konasty: Or like, [2275.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2276.17] Eric Konasty: or just find some fricking bird flies by, [2277.17] Eric Konasty: terrorize the out of that thing, [2279.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2280.17] Eric Konasty: like try and keep it in frame. [2281.17] Eric Konasty: Like totally that's super hard to do, [2284.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2285.17] Eric Konasty: or, [2286.17] Eric Konasty: or anything. [2287.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2288.17] Eric Konasty: like there, [2289.17] Eric Konasty: there's so many things like ways you could do it or, [2290.17] Eric Konasty: or just try flying as low as you can do the fricking ground man without [2293.17] Eric Konasty: out crashing. [2294.17] Eric Konasty: See if you could just do laps in a parking lot, [2296.17] Eric Konasty: like where you can see your own shadow. [2298.17] Eric Konasty: Like that's pretty tough. [2300.17] UNKNOWN: Yeah. [2301.17] Eric Konasty: See how close you could chase your own shadow around, [2303.17] Eric Konasty: like stuff like all those little skills get, [2305.17] Eric Konasty: get your muscle memory really, [2307.17] Eric Konasty: really good to her. [2309.17] Eric Konasty: You know, [2310.17] Eric Konasty: you can pretty much do anything. [2311.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2312.17] Eric Konasty: like look at steel is like muscle memories, [2313.17] Eric Konasty: like super good with what he's doing, [2315.17] Eric Konasty: you know? [2316.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2317.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2318.17] Eric Konasty: Like stuff like that. [2319.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [2320.17] Eric Konasty: it all comes down to like your style, [2321.17] Eric Konasty: your muscle memory to that style. [2323.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2324.17] Eric Konasty: you see it with everything all sports, [2325.17] Eric Konasty: everything. [2326.17] Koel: Yeah. [2327.17] Koel: Yeah. [2328.17] Koel: It's, [2329.17] Eric Konasty: you got to do the repetition to, [2330.17] Koel: you know, [2331.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2332.17] Eric Konasty: what did they say? [2333.17] Eric Konasty: Like 10,000 hours or something like that to be like, [2335.17] Eric Konasty: perfect something, [2336.17] Eric Konasty: perfect something. [2337.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2338.17] Jack: Yeah. [2339.17] Jack: Yeah. [2340.17] Jack: Yeah. [2341.17] Jack: I've got 2000 hours in and one and that's it. [2345.17] Jack: Good luck. [2346.17] Jack: Good luck. [2347.17] Jack: Now. [2348.17] Eric Konasty: 8,000 more to go, Jack. [2352.17] Eric Konasty: 8,000 more to go. [2356.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2357.17] Eric Konasty: So I don't know. [2358.17] Eric Konasty: Like back to your original question. [2359.17] Eric Konasty: I think like the whole drone scene is still pretty strong. [2362.17] Eric Konasty: It's just everybody's spread out and going a different direction. [2365.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2366.17] Jack: How did you land the, [2370.17] Jack: Oh, sorry, Tom. [2371.17] Tony: Go on. [2372.17] Tony: You go. [2373.17] Tony: You go. [2374.17] Tony: I was just going to ask him if he's ever done any racing at all. [2377.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, like when I first started, [2379.17] Eric Konasty: um, I did do a couple of races. [2381.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2382.17] Eric Konasty: I was doing like, [2383.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2384.17] Eric Konasty: that's all we really had when we first started. [2385.17] Eric Konasty: Like that was the cool thing with drones, right? [2386.17] Eric Konasty: Like you were like, [2387.17] Jack: I gotta meet people. [2388.17] Eric Konasty: That's how you meet people. [2389.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2390.17] Eric Konasty: I was like, [2391.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, I gotta get, [2392.17] Eric Konasty: like there's a drone race over here. [2393.17] Eric Konasty: There's other guys that do this. [2394.17] Jack: I know. [2395.17] Jack: I'm not the only FPV or in the village. [2397.17] Jack: Yeah. [2398.17] Jack: Yeah. [2399.17] Eric Konasty: So like, [2400.17] Eric Konasty: are you coming up? [2401.17] Eric Konasty: What do we have over here? [2402.17] Eric Konasty: IDRA races? [2403.17] Eric Konasty: I think what is what it was. [2405.17] Eric Konasty: International drone race. [2407.17] Eric Konasty: Association. [2408.17] Eric Konasty: I think is what it was. [2409.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2410.17] Tony: Yeah. [2411.17] Tony: Races was cool. [2412.17] Tony: I met, [2413.17] Tony: I've got so many friends for you. [2414.17] Tony: FPV now. [2415.17] Tony: So like literally so many good friends through, [2418.17] Tony: through flying, [2419.17] Tony: literally through flying. [2420.17] Tony: Well, [2421.17] Tony: I went to Florida and I was like, [2423.17] Tony: Google maps, [2424.17] Tony: dropped me here. [2425.17] Tony: I was went to see my friend. [2428.17] Tony: Dropped me at this park. [2429.17] Tony: I'm going to go here. [2430.17] Tony: And then I was just walking with my backpack caught on. [2433.17] Tony: And I was like, [2434.17] Tony: Oh my God, [2435.17] Tony: I can hear a quad. [2436.17] Tony: I can hear a quad. [2437.17] Tony: Just went over there and just like, [2438.17] Tony: Oh, [2439.17] Tony: I'm from the UK. [2440.17] Tony: Can I fly with you? [2441.17] Tony: Yeah. [2442.17] Tony: Yeah. [2443.17] Tony: You know, [2444.17] Jack: and we talked to each other all the time. [2445.17] Tony: Where's the yoke? [2446.17] Jack: Where's that from in the world? [2449.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2450.17] Eric Konasty: It's so cool. [2451.17] Eric Konasty: I think that's why it's like, [2452.17] Eric Konasty: like it's so cool sometimes to, [2454.17] Eric Konasty: to be in like a niche thing that you really like to do. [2458.17] Eric Konasty: And then like, [2459.17] Eric Konasty: like even like with people with like, [2461.17] Eric Konasty: that enjoy like, [2463.17] Eric Konasty: like cars or something. [2464.17] Eric Konasty: They have meetups. [2465.17] Eric Konasty: It's cool to go to a car meetup. [2467.17] Eric Konasty: Cause then you can meet other people that like, [2468.17] Eric Konasty: you could talk to you about your same passion. [2470.17] Eric Konasty: Like, you know, [2471.17] Eric Konasty: you come home and you talk to your wife or something. [2472.17] Eric Konasty: She's like, [2473.17] Eric Konasty: yeah, yeah, cool. [2475.17] Eric Konasty: She's super stoked. [2476.17] Eric Konasty: You're into it. [2477.17] Eric Konasty: But it's like, [2478.17] Eric Konasty: you don't want to talk her ear off about that. [2479.17] Eric Konasty: Like she's not 100% into it, [2480.17] Eric Konasty: but you go to a car meet and you can talk to one guy that like, [2483.17] Eric Konasty: you're just vibing with or something or like, [2485.17] Eric Konasty: that's why people are like gaming or something, you know, [2487.17] Eric Konasty: like at night you plug in with your friends and you're like, [2491.17] Eric Konasty: it's not just playing the game a hundred. [2493.17] Eric Konasty: Like most of it is the community of like getting on with your like [2497.17] Eric Konasty: other buddies and everything and, [2499.17] Eric Konasty: and talking and laughing at like stuff. [2501.17] Jack: Learning off each other as well. [2503.17] Jack: Yeah. [2504.17] Eric Konasty: Simple stuff. [2505.17] Jack: You know, [2506.17] Eric Konasty: having someone to call to or like, [2509.17] Eric Konasty: if you don't know something, you know? [2511.17] Jack: Yeah. [2512.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2513.17] Jack: That's your guy, huh? [2515.17] Eric Konasty: I do that with Tommy a lot with like Tommy, like we're close. [2521.17] Eric Konasty: We're close to each other. [2523.17] Eric Konasty: We're like in, in like, you know, [2525.17] Eric Konasty: it's still in some are like Atlanta. [2527.17] Eric Konasty: You have to fly there and everything. [2528.17] Eric Konasty: He and Tommy like are driving distance. [2530.17] Eric Konasty: So it's perfect. [2531.17] Eric Konasty: So it's like, you know, [2532.17] Eric Konasty: when we need to like, [2533.17] Eric Konasty: or share things or something where it's like, hey, like, dude, [2535.17] Eric Konasty: can I borrow this? [2536.17] Eric Konasty: I have like this job this week or something, you know, [2538.17] Eric Konasty: it's perfect. [2539.17] Eric Konasty: But Tommy's like my, my beta flight guy. [2542.17] Eric Konasty: He's my Josh Bardwell. [2543.17] Eric Konasty: So. [2544.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2545.17] Eric Konasty: Cause I probably like fat tech and or kiss. [2548.17] Eric Konasty: I've always flown kiss fat tech stuff. [2550.17] Eric Konasty: I'm fair. [2551.17] Eric Konasty: I know beta flight stuff. [2552.17] Eric Konasty: I'm very, uh, like, [2555.17] Eric Konasty: I'm not like super educated on it because they're always updating. [2558.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [2559.17] Eric Konasty: I'll be like, [2560.17] Eric Konasty: and, [2561.17] Eric Konasty: and updated and like, [2563.17] Eric Konasty: I know everything and I'm good to go. [2565.17] Eric Konasty: And I, I go to flash firmware or something and it's like a, oh, [2568.17] Eric Konasty: your, your current configurator needs to be updated. [2570.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [2571.17] Eric Konasty: And I update it. [2572.17] Eric Konasty: And then I like open it up. [2573.17] Eric Konasty: I'm like, [2574.17] Eric Konasty: what the fuck is it? [2575.17] Eric Konasty: Where did the page go that had everything I need to do? [2578.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2579.17] Eric Konasty: Like, yeah. [2580.17] Eric Konasty: And then you, [2581.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2582.17] Eric Konasty: the, [2583.17] Eric Konasty: the, [2584.17] Eric Konasty: the model is just upside down. [2585.17] Jack: You're into the right. [2586.17] Jack: Oh yeah. [2587.17] Jack: You're like, [2588.17] Jack: well, [2589.17] Jack: kind of. [2590.17] Jack: Yeah. [2591.17] Jack: Yeah. [2592.17] Jack: Yeah. [2593.17] Jack: Yeah. [2594.17] Jack: Yeah. [2595.17] Jack: Yeah. [2596.17] Jack: Yeah. [2597.17] Jack: Yeah. [2598.17] Eric Konasty: So that's when I'm like, [2599.17] Eric Konasty: I call Tommy, you know, I'm like, dude, tell me, what am I looking at? [2601.17] Eric Konasty: What do I got to do? [2602.17] Eric Konasty: And he kind of like gives me the quick, you know, tutorial rundown on it. [2606.17] Eric Konasty: But, uh, [2607.17] Jack: Yeah. [2608.17] Jack: Like what numbers do I need to put in? [2610.17] Jack: So the rates don't feel like I'm controlling two sticks in a wet bucket [2614.17] Jack: of sand. [2615.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2616.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah, exactly. [2617.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, like, [2618.17] Eric Konasty: cause most of production stuff's always beta flight for the most part. [2621.17] Eric Konasty: Cause you know, we run like. [2624.17] Eric Konasty: All the failed safe, [2625.17] Eric Konasty: like GPS stuff sometimes on there and things too and whatnot. [2629.17] Eric Konasty: Um, beta flight is very good for a lot of things, [2632.17] Eric Konasty: but yeah, [2634.17] Eric Konasty: but for feel, [2635.17] Eric Konasty: I feel like the way the quad flies and the feel and everything, [2639.17] Eric Konasty: like the fat tech so good. [2641.17] Jack: Yeah. [2642.17] Jack: This one, [2643.17] Jack: this is our Lord and master, [2645.17] Jack: Andrew flash rank. [2646.17] Jack: And he asks, [2648.17] Jack: change your topic back to ethics. [2650.17] Jack: What is the MO for the new products? [2653.17] Jack: Scat again, [2654.17] Jack: some samples for metony OEMs and commission the ones you like or start [2659.17] Jack: with a machine shop and iterate towards what you want. [2664.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2665.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2666.17] Eric Konasty: a minimum order, [2668.17] Eric Konasty: it just depends on factory. [2670.17] Eric Konasty: So like, [2671.17] Eric Konasty: that's just, [2672.17] Eric Konasty: that's like our, [2673.17] Eric Konasty: our that's the last thing we look at. [2675.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2678.17] Eric Konasty: like, [2679.17] Eric Konasty: like I guess like the best timeline if he's trying to figure out timeline [2682.17] Eric Konasty: of how a product's made is in a sense, [2686.17] Eric Konasty: like idea. [2689.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, [2690.17] Eric Konasty: we figure that out, [2691.17] Eric Konasty: kind of chat with each other. [2693.17] Eric Konasty: Usually it's between me, [2694.17] Eric Konasty: steel and trappy chat an idea out. [2698.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2699.17] Eric Konasty: trappy will then kind of give that rough idea of what we want to [2704.17] Eric Konasty: engineers. [2705.17] Eric Konasty: In a sense, [2706.17] Eric Konasty: the engineers kind of either build it out or, [2709.17] Eric Konasty: or whatever it may be. [2710.17] Eric Konasty: It might go straight to like, [2712.17] Eric Konasty: say it's a textile item, [2713.17] Eric Konasty: like a bag, [2714.17] Eric Konasty: um, [2715.17] Eric Konasty: that will go over there. [2717.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [2718.17] Eric Konasty: so they might like engineer wise, [2720.17] Eric Konasty: the person that's doing like soft goods will lay it out, [2724.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2725.17] Eric Konasty: like we'll tell him like this color, [2726.17] Eric Konasty: we want a logo we want, [2728.17] Eric Konasty: like the size of a bag is what we want inside. [2731.17] Eric Konasty: This is what it's for. [2732.17] Eric Konasty: It needs to have a pocket to have this. [2734.17] Eric Konasty: They'll lay it out, [2735.17] Eric Konasty: do all the rough drafts and they send that to the factory. [2738.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2739.17] Eric Konasty: then it goes into like, [2740.17] Eric Konasty: say, [2741.17] Eric Konasty: um, [2742.17] Eric Konasty: anything from, [2743.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2744.17] Eric Konasty: we have to find out like colors and everything. [2746.17] Eric Konasty: I find exactly what we want. [2747.17] Eric Konasty: So we have to go through, [2749.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2750.17] Eric Konasty: my mind's blank right now. [2751.17] Eric Konasty: I want to say swatches, [2752.17] Eric Konasty: but it's kind of like swatches. [2753.17] Eric Konasty: What do you call that shit? [2754.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2755.17] Eric Konasty: so we have to go through all the pantones and everything, [2760.17] Eric Konasty: all that stuff, [2761.17] Eric Konasty: figure out exactly what we want. [2763.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2764.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2765.17] Eric Konasty: this is typical, [2766.17] Eric Konasty: right? [2767.17] Eric Konasty: Most companies kind of operate this way. [2768.17] Eric Konasty: And then, [2769.17] Eric Konasty: um, [2770.17] Eric Konasty: and then, [2771.17] Eric Konasty: yeah, [2772.17] Eric Konasty: then it goes to, [2773.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2774.17] Eric Konasty: they have some samples. [2775.17] Eric Konasty: They'll send it over to, [2776.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2777.17] Eric Konasty: to Trappy. [2778.17] Eric Konasty: Trappy will kind of like, [2779.17] Eric Konasty: we'll do like kind of something like this little, [2780.17] Eric Konasty: little FaceTime type of thing or like whatever, [2781.17] Eric Konasty: we'll kind of go through everything. [2782.17] Eric Konasty: It looks cool. [2783.17] Eric Konasty: Then he'll send them out to us. [2784.17] Eric Konasty: We kind of like play with it, [2785.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2786.17] Eric Konasty: see if we like it. [2787.17] Eric Konasty: And if it's good, [2788.17] Eric Konasty: then, [2789.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2790.17] Eric Konasty: yeah, [2791.17] Eric Konasty: we go back to the factory and then they let us know like [2793.17] Eric Konasty: and then usually, [2794.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2795.17] Eric Konasty: for the most part, [2796.17] Eric Konasty: we're always ordering more than minimums, [2798.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2799.17] Eric Konasty: because we got to fulfill distributors. [2801.17] Eric Konasty: So, [2802.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2803.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2804.17] Eric Konasty: if you don't order minimums, [2805.17] Eric Konasty: then, [2806.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2807.17] Eric Konasty: it's not fair to like, [2808.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2809.17] Eric Konasty: a distributor saying like, [2810.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, [2811.17] Eric Konasty: well he ordered like 500 of those bags. [2812.17] Eric Konasty: He only left me with like 200. [2813.17] Eric Konasty: You know, [2814.17] Eric Konasty: I want 500 too. [2815.17] Eric Konasty: Like he's going to get the big piece of the pie because he got his order in first. [2817.17] Eric Konasty: Like you kind of got to order more, [2820.17] Eric Konasty: get everybody. [2821.17] Eric Konasty: And then like deal with the burden of being like, [2823.17] Eric Konasty: yo, [2824.17] Eric Konasty: we need to get these off the shelf because everybody ordered now. [2826.17] Eric Konasty: There's still a lot we got to promote. [2828.17] Eric Konasty: We got to market stuff like that. [2829.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2830.17] Eric Konasty: but everything moves like in a, [2831.17] Eric Konasty: in a sense of like, [2832.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2833.17] Eric Konasty: like I said, [2834.17] Eric Konasty: it's all work. [2835.17] Eric Konasty: You got to market it, [2836.17] Eric Konasty: do everything. [2837.17] Eric Konasty: And the good thing is like, [2838.17] Eric Konasty: we have such a good community of, [2839.17] Eric Konasty: of pilots and everybody that like our stuff. [2841.17] Eric Konasty: So, [2842.17] Eric Konasty: um, [2843.17] Eric Konasty: which is nice. [2844.17] Jack: Is there, [2845.17] Jack: is there any, [2846.17] Jack: is there a certain product that you personally worked on that you were like, [2849.17] Jack: I'm bringing this out. [2852.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, [2854.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2855.17] Eric Konasty: so like all the Cinerat stuff is everything I worked on all the small [2859.17] Eric Konasty: motors or everything I've worked on. [2861.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2863.17] Jack: my motor's lens. [2865.17] Jack: Um, [2866.17] Jack: cause I know you got, [2867.17] Jack: you really like that. [2869.17] Eric Konasty: No, that's just from that one company. [2871.17] Eric Konasty: You long or something like that. [2873.17] Eric Konasty: Like I don't give a about like making an anamorphic lens. [2877.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2878.17] Eric Konasty: That's like such a small niche to certain people. [2881.17] Eric Konasty: I just got it cause I'm like, [2882.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, [2883.17] Eric Konasty: anamorphic lens for a GoPro. [2884.17] Eric Konasty: Like, [2885.17] Eric Konasty: let's see how this thing looks. [2886.17] Eric Konasty: You know, [2887.17] Eric Konasty: this might be kind of cool. [2888.17] Eric Konasty: It is actually pretty cool. [2889.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2890.17] Eric Konasty: but, [2891.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2892.17] Eric Konasty: like that we, [2893.17] Eric Konasty: and then like all the soft cause we all collaborate on like for the most [2896.17] Eric Konasty: part, [2897.17] Eric Konasty: that's like, [2898.17] Eric Konasty: that's like all of our feedback, [2899.17] Eric Konasty: like between all of us, [2901.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2902.17] Eric Konasty: still does all his motors. [2903.17] Eric Konasty: Obviously. [2904.17] UNKNOWN: Um, [2905.17] Eric Konasty: I worked pretty heavy on the backpack and then, uh, [2909.17] Eric Konasty: still still did too, [2910.17] Eric Konasty: you know, [2911.17] Eric Konasty: still did, [2912.17] Eric Konasty: uh, [2913.17] Eric Konasty: like a lot of feedback on that too. [2914.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2915.17] UNKNOWN: uh, [2916.17] Eric Konasty: which one's like haven't, [2918.17] Eric Konasty: like battery bag was all like steel. [2920.17] Eric Konasty: That was like his for sure. [2923.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2924.17] Koel: That actually has worked out really well in Canada for a lot. [2927.17] Eric Konasty: Oh, I bet. [2928.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2929.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2930.17] Eric Konasty: I like that battery bag. [2931.17] Jack: It's nice. [2932.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2933.17] Eric Konasty: Um, [2934.17] Eric Konasty: a lot of it's like collaborative efforts though, [2937.17] Eric Konasty: for the most part, [2938.17] Eric Konasty: there's nothing like where we really like just build, [2942.17] Eric Konasty: build mats. [2943.17] Jack: Everyone's screaming build mats. [2946.17] Eric Konasty: Oh yeah. [2947.17] Eric Konasty: It's built build mats. [2948.17] Eric Konasty: Uh, [2949.17] Eric Konasty: yeah. [2950.17] Eric Konasty: I mean, [2951.17] Eric Konasty: it's just a giant mouse pad basically kind of like what we wanted. [2954.17] Jack: Well, [2955.17] Jack: you do, [2956.17] Jack: you do better than Linus tech tips cause those guys can't get him in [2958.17] Jack: stock. [2959.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [2960.17] Eric Konasty: That, [2961.17] Eric Konasty: so this was like definitely collaborative effort. [2962.17] Eric Konasty: Like we knew we just wanted like a topo map and a logo. [2966.17] Eric Konasty: That was like, [2967.17] Eric Konasty: it wasn't a hole in the size. [2968.17] Eric Konasty: We were just like, [2969.17] Eric Konasty: we need it big. [2970.17] Tony: That was an easy, [2971.17] Tony: that was an easy job. [2972.17] Tony: Yeah. [2973.17] Eric Konasty: This one was more of like an easy one. [2974.17] Eric Konasty: This was just something we're like, [2975.17] Eric Konasty: dude, [2976.17] Eric Konasty: like this is like, [2977.17] Eric Konasty: like everyone wants this. [2979.17] Tony: No, [2980.17] Eric Konasty: like most of it isn't even like everybody wants this. [2982.17] Eric Konasty: It's like, [2983.17] Eric Konasty: we want it while most of our products that we come out with are like, [2988.17] Eric Konasty: dude, [2989.17] Eric Konasty: like I need this. [2991.17] Eric Konasty: Like dude, [2992.17] Eric Konasty: still we should do that. [2993.17] Eric Konasty: You know what? [2994.17] Eric Konasty: We don't have, [2995.17] Eric Konasty: we need this. [2996.17] Eric Konasty: Like I need like so and so or something like that. [2997.17] Eric Konasty: Then we start on a project. [2998.17] Eric Konasty: That's how most projects like come through fruition is something that [3001.17] Eric Konasty: means still want and we make it so we could have it because we're like, [3006.17] Eric Konasty: most likely everybody else is like in the same struggle as us wanting [3010.17] Eric Konasty: something a little bit better, [3011.17] Eric Konasty: like whatever it is. [3013.17] Eric Konasty: So yeah, [3015.17] Eric Konasty: a lot of it is our own needs. [3017.17] Jack: Amen. [3018.17] Jack: Just quickly because we're almost out of time. [3021.17] Jack: Caroline, [3022.17] Jack: yeah, [3023.17] Jack: Tony, [3024.17] Jack: you read it. [3025.17] Jack: No, [3026.17] Tony: you read this. [3027.17] Tony: Go on. [3028.17] Tony: Caroline says, [3029.17] Tony: has Eric tried iNav on a quad? [3034.17] Eric Konasty: No, [3035.17] Eric Konasty: I haven't tried it on a quad. [3036.17] Eric Konasty: I've only done it on wings, [3041.17] Eric Konasty: which it works well. [3043.17] Eric Konasty: iNav is really good. [3044.17] Eric Konasty: I like the auto launch feature on there. [3047.17] Eric Konasty: And the waypoint stuff is like super cool too. [3051.17] Eric Konasty: It's pretty cool. [3052.17] Eric Konasty: I feel like it's came a long way. [3055.17] Eric Konasty: But iNav is cool. [3057.17] Eric Konasty: In UK, [3058.17] Eric Konasty: everybody still flies wings a lot, right? [3060.17] Eric Konasty: I feel like it's not that big out here. [3061.17] Jack: You've got the whole socks and sandals brigade, man. [3065.17] Eric Konasty: Socks and sandals. [3067.17] Jack: Yeah, [3068.17] Jack: you've got no idea. [3069.17] Jack: I could picture it. [3070.17] Tony: I have to be white socks. [3072.17] Jack: Yeah, [3073.17] Jack: it's the BMFA, [3074.17] Jack: the British Model Flying Association, [3077.17] Jack: celebrating their first hundred years next month. [3083.17] Jack: And they love like balsa words, [3087.17] Jack: the smell of CA glue, [3089.17] Jack: dope, [3090.17] Jack: like not like, [3091.17] Jack: you know, [3092.17] Jack: weed and shit, man. [3093.17] Jack: I mean, [3094.17] Jack: like, [3095.17] Jack: yeah, [3096.17] Jack: open, [3097.17] Jack: open, [3098.17] Jack: something or other. [3099.17] Eric Konasty: I know what you're talking about. [3100.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [3101.17] Eric Konasty: All the, [3102.17] Eric Konasty: all the stuff for whatever. [3103.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [3104.17] Eric Konasty: I like the, [3105.17] Eric Konasty: I have one of the one I've been flying right now is the. [3108.17] Jack: They look at us and go, [3109.17] Eric Konasty: you are the devil. [3110.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3111.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3112.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3113.17] Tony: Right. [3114.17] Tony: Right. [3115.17] Tony: Right. [3116.17] Tony: Right. [3117.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3118.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3119.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3120.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3121.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3122.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3123.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3124.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3125.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3126.17] Tony: Right. [3127.17] Eric Konasty: Right. [3128.17] Tony: Right. [3129.17] Tony: Right. [3130.17] Tony: Right. [3131.17] Eric Konasty: Super easy to build. [3133.17] Eric Konasty: That's got iNav in it. [3134.17] Eric Konasty: I use that maytech. [3135.17] Eric Konasty: F. [3137.17] Eric Konasty: Three I think it, [3139.17] Eric Konasty: or F4, F4, [3140.17] Eric Konasty: Maytech F4, [3141.17] Eric Konasty: like the, [3142.17] Eric Konasty: the wing controller in there. [3143.17] Eric Konasty: 405. [3144.17] Eric Konasty: Yeah. [3145.17] Eric Konasty: It's super nice, [3146.17] Eric Konasty: it's like all stable. [3147.17] Eric Konasty: You just chucked that thing and it just goes. [3150.17] Tony: It just goes, dude. [3151.17] Tony: Yeah, [3152.17] Tony: you don't have to, [3153.17] Tony: take your hands off. [3154.17] Jack: You're like, [3155.17] Jack: Cara line slight my, [3156.17] Jack: my club members hate me flying wings and Quads. [3160.17] Jack: Oh yeah, that's the big with these little vortex breakers or whatever they're called. [3167.93] Tony: Yeah, that guy's fun. Yeah, they're good though. [3171.53] Eric Konasty: Yeah, literally. Yeah, like I said, like it's super easy to build. [3176.25] Eric Konasty: Super easy to build and stuff. And that's what I hated about wings, right? Like [3180.73] Eric Konasty: I get a wing from like, you know, Ruben had sweep wings and stuff like that. [3184.73] Eric Konasty: I get a wing from him and it's like, you know, he sends me a thing. There's like, [3189.13] Eric Konasty: I think three pieces of a bunch of spars and like all this and I'm like, [3195.05] Eric Konasty: dude, this thing's going to take me two months. I just want to buy this thing now. [3199.77] Jack: No, you're like, you glue it together. There's none of this. [3202.49] Jack: Yeah, you got to bury them and glue it. [3206.97] Tony: I'm the same. I hate like, I think that's time for that. [3211.29] Tony: The reason I bought was old dot was literally because I could FPV it [3216.17] Tony: and that I'm really good at line of sight. Line of sight for me is bad. [3220.81] Tony: So I knew I could just throw it in the air. It would go up and I have time to put my goggles [3226.73] Eric Konasty: on and then fly. Well, apparently ZOHD has their own little controller. [3233.53] Eric Konasty: Yeah. Controller thing now, right? Or does that auto launches and stuff too? [3239.29] Eric Konasty: I think they have their own like drop-in kit also, which is nice. I haven't tried it. [3244.81] Eric Konasty: I've only tried like the Maytech boards, but yeah. [3250.73] Jack: Without a computer and everything. [3253.93] Eric Konasty: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. You don't have to plug in a computer. There's two or anything. [3257.77] Eric Konasty: I think it's just like literally just drop it in, plug all the stuff into it and it like goes. [3264.01] Jack: Yeah. I hung out with this guy called Sheldon and he was like all BMFA and like, you know, [3270.33] Jack: like to wing and he was like programming the SC, moving the throttle at certain times. [3277.05] Jack: You know how we've got the to calibrate the, apparently there's a whole spectrum of like, [3286.25] Jack: and the brake on slow start on and like he's like C-previo talking to RTD too, man. I think [3294.41] Jack: beats are in. He knows all that things. I am like, you know, that's like a Morse code. [3304.41] Eric Konasty: I have a giant, I guess, what do you call those sail planes or whatever? Yeah. [3309.29] Eric Konasty: I have a big ass one of those. It's like a, I think like 1100 millimeter or something. I don't [3314.81] Eric Konasty: know. I had the, the, what is it? The verometer that's in there that tells you when you're getting [3322.49] Eric Konasty: the verometer and it was so funny because it would always like, it took me a while. I'm like, [3328.41] Eric Konasty: yeah, but I was like, what does this, what does this mean? Does that mean I'm going down or am I [3333.85] Jack: going up? Like it took me a while to figure it out. Caroline's just like, like literally we must [3339.29] Jack: sound like absolute monkeys to her. She must be like, she's got it down, huh? Using, yeah, hang on, [3346.41] Jack: using the throttle to change the ESC settings. I know like you used to have like a programmer [3351.53] Jack: board and you'd like press buttons and like different entities to line up. I still have the [3356.57] Eric Konasty: programmer board. I do. Yeah, man. I still have that thing. You, you would jump to different [3362.57] Jack: little pins on it. It had a little jumpers, man. Like that's, that's even a new rule. I don't know. [3372.01] Jack: Like, man, we're like, [3376.81] Eric Konasty: dude, I have an older one than that where you just would have little, the little jumpers and you would [3380.97] Eric Konasty: jump the pins and put your ESC in there and like have to do it that way. Tony, freaking nightmare, [3389.05] Jack: man. When he first had a wing, he ran the receiver, the camera and everything from the five volt. [3398.33] Jack: It was like, you remember the, yeah, that's the immersion ones. Yeah. And he was like, [3402.97] Jack: I don't know what keeps happening and I opened it up and I'm like, you wired this like a madman. [3408.25] Eric Konasty: I still don't understand how we fit all that into mini quads. [3411.77] Tony: Yeah, they were massive. Well, yeah, they were just stuff used to hang out the edge, [3416.73] Jack: like they're like this tall. It was like the standoffs were so tall on it. [3421.61] Jack: They're like skyscrapers. Anyway, right. That is all we've got time for. Like, thank, [3427.45] Eric Konasty: thank you, Eric. Yeah, no problem, man. Went by fast because we were having fun. That's all. [3433.45] Jack: Yeah, you should come back. Definitely. Yeah. Can you, can you, can you bring like, [3441.37] Jack: you know, can you bring like Ruben with you? Like I'm scared to like invite him on because he, [3446.41] Eric Konasty: he just, yeah, man, you should tell me today. I could get, I could get Ruben on whenever Ruben's [3451.85] Eric Konasty: all Ruben's doing right now is probably playing rust or overwatch. That's probably like what he's [3457.05] Jack: doing. No worries. Yeah. Like, I think he has time for your podcast for sure. I just, yeah, like, [3464.89] Jack: just need to like chill him out. And did, did Tommy text you after last week, you know, [3471.29] Jack: we bumped you because he, and then he know, man, let him know that you're upset with him. [3479.45] Eric Konasty: No, I, I don't even remember what, like we talk about everything else besides this kind of stuff, [3486.57] Jack: I guess so. Fair enough. Anyway, you've been listening to Let's Throw Now, and you've been [3493.53] Jack: joined by my darling wife. Bonjour. My buddy, Cole. Goodbye. You've done really well, buddy. How you, [3503.29] Jack: did you find it okay? Did you like forget you were on a show and then you were just like talking about [3507.45] Eric Konasty: camera stuff? Yeah. This is my tripod back there. You can see the, yeah. Yeah. This is my [3516.97] Jack: podcast, actually. Yeah. Would you believe like, you know, you'll be, you'll be on a team fail [3522.41] Eric Konasty: safe soon. A couple months later, man, he's going to have those Roman candles going off in there. [3532.33] Jack: We've been joined by our special guest, Eric. Thanks guys. [3538.33] Jack: And I've been brought into the fly. Make sure that you guys give us a big, [3544.33] Jack: old like, hit the subscribe button, send this podcast to your friends. [3551.05] Eric Konasty: And join their YouTube channel. Yeah. Hit that join button. [3555.69] Eric Konasty: No, we don't have a join button. Yeah. I know. We're saying that so you guys would [3559.77] Jack: get a join button so people could do that. Yeah. 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