=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 408 === Title: LDO 408 - Belrik In Croatia Recorded: 2023-06-22 Hosts: Stephen "Belrik" Howell, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): Grant, Rohan "Failsafe" Clegg, Swiss FPV Total audience: 1,312 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhOOFSMgG5M); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1548039796-letsdroneout-ldo-408-belrik-in-croatia.mp3) ===================================== #FPV #drone #podcast Subscribe to weekly edited episodes of Let’s Drone Out on your favorite podcast platform Help support LDO on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/letsdroneout Join our Discord: https://discord.com/invite/8hEVqkM Get our merch here: https://letsdroneout.com/shop Get our merch via Paypal: https://paypal.me/letsdroneout/GBP Email us at letsdroneout@gmail.com Follow us on Facebook: https://fb.com/letsdroneout Let's drone out is; Jack - / brightontillifly Stephen - / shinyvideostuff Tony - / thetonstar1 CurryKitten- / currykitten Koel- / @koelanderson [0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to let's drone out and special [4.2] Jack: Thank you to our lovely patrons that help donate [7.48] Jack: So that we could pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things we say [12.56] Jack: Massive. Thank you to call us campus art folk now Sam Dharma on with the show [23.04] Stephen: Hello and welcome to let's drone out we're in Croatia with a whole bunch of people [57.99] Stephen: So let's do a longer than usual preamble. Obviously, we have myself [62.83] Stephen: Bright until I fly and curry kitten, but we have a whole host of other people joining us this evening. So [69.63] Stephen: round the table [72.03] Stephen: from gaff [73.87] Stephen: introduce yourselves [75.63] Stephen: Yeah, hello. I'm introducing myself and I'm gaff [81.63] Stephen: Next up that's Kevin Lee [84.47] Stephen: So next up hello and then [93.43] Stephen: We should just do ASL next up we have one of the drone fest crew here. Hello. I'm Peter. No, well as a [105.43] Stephen: Hi, I'm getting I'm high-pitched baby. Are you I'm jolly and I go by settler [114.27] Stephen: I'm Damian. I'll go by juice FPV. I'm Grant and I'm also introduced myself [124.87] Stephen: Quite down far enough to get row, but he's just at the bottom of shop there [132.55] Stephen: Hello [144.47] Stephen: It doesn't look like it's strobing on the show, but here it definitely is growing there we go. Okay, so [150.83] Stephen: Well this week we're out in Croatia to fly some truly epic fandos one specifically [156.87] Stephen: Was at a hospital? [159.43] Stephen: Which featured a 700 meter? [164.03] Stephen: Fly down there some cool graffiti loads and loads of gaps [167.39] Stephen: And [169.07] Stephen: Then we went off to it to another disused factory and did a lot of dives and a whole load of concrete pillars and people [175.43] Stephen: Mattie flipping everything [178.95] Stephen: And yeah, I believe we've got some kind of night flying plans as well [183.23] Stephen: I'm here just for the first week where the guys are making two weeks of it things have already been broken [188.47] Stephen: But everyone's still in the air, which is good to see [190.47] Stephen: I [192.51] Stephen: Perhaps everyone could have talked about their their moment so far that they've been up to [203.59] Stephen: So I've mostly been flying I've broken [210.59] Stephen: Got some cool clips. I've got the ones Vince come already at fail say better be be on Instagram [216.99] Failsafe: but yeah [219.11] Stephen: Yeah, it's flying. I broke only two though two motors so far. So it's going good so far and [225.67] Stephen: And the frame the top plate the frame which is completely like yeah, just split [231.15] Stephen: But other than that, yeah, it's going well. Yeah [237.51] Stephen: Nice nice nice one you broke lads [240.59] Stephen: What I brought is skin what I broke [243.51] Stephen: I'm not actually a drone pilot and I'm here with the guys [248.79] Stephen: And obviously my good friend Gavin is a drone pilot and so you're just experience was about since the first time I've actually seen [255.51] Stephen: These are these quads right? So it's quite impressive [259.43] Stephen: And so from this maybe I just didn't go back home and invest in my own quads. Hey, so [266.95] Stephen: It's most certainly a learning experience. Yeah [273.75] Stephen: There we go. And I not really broke much. I think I've been a bell [279.63] Stephen: And [281.07] Stephen: Probably the couple antennas [283.51] Stephen: Then the bro and bent a prop. Yeah, I'm just I'm relaxing a bit more than other people [289.51] Stephen: I'm much more of a casual flyer. So I'm kind of more of an obvious side of it [296.15] Stephen: I'm hoping to get a lot better which is why I come out with these guys to learn [300.27] Stephen: Get pushed to crash my drone into the roof of the building [304.75] Stephen: I'll have to see that video on me Instagram [307.79] Stephen: Still surprised that I only bent a bell like that's pretty [312.39] Stephen: pretty impressive crash [314.87] Stephen: But yeah still in the air still in the air [320.07] Stephen: So I [322.59] Stephen: I'm normally one smashing many things up each weekend [326.55] Stephen: I'm on a new which it was frame and they not spend a moment switch [331.59] Stephen: It's very good combo. So [334.51] Stephen: Minimal break just only one plate and that's why it's so [338.39] Stephen: Very good. I've been cruising around like a granddad [341.47] Stephen: So I haven't broken a lot of stuff but I didn't have a nasty fall where I not power out from my vista at full throttle [348.07] Stephen: kind of 50 meters up [350.47] Stephen: And I absolutely bran trouser myself [353.99] Stephen: I completely lost the quad because it was a full tilt going towards a road [357.79] Stephen: It seemed to bounce off a tree and man perfectly on the cross and so far [361.63] Stephen: I've bent one drop but to make out feel better. I did change my set props because he said they look dirty [370.27] Failsafe: I've probably broken the most here [373.51] Failsafe: I broke an arm broken a couple antennas in a props and [377.79] Failsafe: Within the course of two days. I broke three walks now BTX's [381.27] Failsafe: We'll get on to [383.27] Failsafe: Yeah, it's been an expensive three days. We've learned things about we've learned a lot about [388.79] SwissFPV: A hell of a lot about what snail but it's still great. I swear [401.27] SwissFPV: Yeah, I was lucky enough to break anything yet Mike what two of them just didn't work and [407.23] SwissFPV: I was lucky enough to be here with all these people [410.51] SwissFPV: Who helped me to build another quad superfly frame sync mode and with all the best components? [417.71] SwissFPV: There is a man who actually helped me to put the crops on and other little bits and buffs [422.87] SwissFPV: But now I need to practice the new whole drone [427.07] SwissFPV: Because it lies so good but figures cross. I'm not gonna crush it and not gonna break anything and [433.11] Failsafe: Yeah for now, that's it happy [436.11] Failsafe: I've been doing a lot more flying inside this time. Last year. I flew outside quite a bit and [443.11] Failsafe: I've been lucky so far. I've only broken my GoPro a little bit and a few props so so far so good [452.35] Stephen: Nice. What are you? What are my goals? [454.95] Stephen: It's like he's an ambitious one. Let's go. So far. I've broken [460.27] Stephen: a couple of motors [464.64] Stephen: An old three and an action two in one crash that was quite impressive go through camera and [470.68] Stephen: I think that's very I think we can write off those first camera plates [475.24] Stephen: No, the camera plates are broke. I'm just gonna keep running down [478.0] Stephen: I was three Instagram so hard that he just trumpeted out [484.92] Stephen: And I crashed in and [487.24] Stephen: The the new bundle that we headed to there was [489.88] Stephen: It seems like there's two of the only wet parts of Croatia at the minute are at this Bando [494.84] Stephen: And I flew two packs and landed in both of the wet parts of Croatia [501.8] Stephen: Not a sign of rain and this guy finds puzzles. Yeah, I find the only two pedals in in the bandos and [508.68] Stephen: Luckily, nothing died, which is which is very good [511.56] Stephen: Touch words [513.32] Stephen: Yes, that's where it's from. Yeah, I think there are just a lot of props. Yeah, I'm probably also mentioned [523.0] Stephen: It's driven myself and Ben I think took a plane over [526.92] Stephen: Everyone else just road crept it from the UK. So, you know kudos [530.24] Stephen: I think there was some oh and one other guy who did a plane and a coach trip with us [534.56] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, actually I had the longest trip to get in here, but it is [541.08] Stephen: I don't know about the longest. I drove for 13 hours on there on Friday. All right, so the most [548.84] Stephen: By the sound of it the road trip quite painful [551.08] Stephen: But you all got to take all your batteries all your tools and everything which has made life easier once you've got here [556.56] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, it was very elemental [560.08] Stephen: No one got arrested [562.88] Stephen: Say something about that something about what I don't know what you're talking about [566.56] Stephen: Some interesting places, you know places that you can find both incision at 3 a.m. [581.28] Stephen: on Saturday night [583.56] Stephen: 20 year-old [585.56] Stephen: Say the name of it and it was just romantic romantic living hotel. Yeah, the romantic living hotel [591.92] Stephen: Was where the road trip stayed on Saturday night. It's a lovely place [596.88] Stephen: Very yeah had a really nice trip apart right in the middle of the beautiful room very expensive bathroom. I hear as well [602.36] Stephen: Yeah [605.36] Stephen: Actions, oh, yeah [607.36] Stephen: So a lot of times have been had and we're staying out in the middle of the countryside. I'm driving to the Bando and [613.76] Stephen: There's plenty of space here for testing things and just been ripping around the house a little bit to make sure everything works [620.8] Stephen: I've swapped over. I thought I've broken a vista. I hadn't I just shared off a UFL on it [626.36] Stephen: So I'm sort of on walks now on myself just in time for all these news articles to come out saying how bad what's now is [632.8] Stephen: feels awesome [635.88] Stephen: Yes, and this guy here has been breaking what's now BTX is like they're going out fashioned [640.64] Stephen: So I just really really hate what's in there. I decided I just want to break every single BTX [645.52] Stephen: So you should just go all three what we've learned is that you really really should have a back on your HD [652.76] Stephen: BTX never trust a 9-volt. I never trust the manufacturers of work up to success recommendation. It's just not [659.6] Stephen: This guy's on for us and he's just trashing the money crashes the spikes he gets from crashing or enough to just destroy BTX's [666.88] Stephen: It's just a testament to how hard I fly, right? [670.48] Stephen: Why not crash on? [673.2] Stephen: Jack dies it [676.52] Stephen: So what's been going on in the UK? [679.04] Curry: Well, I was gonna ask you you guys since it sounds like most of your flying digital [684.0] Curry: How is that holding up in the sort of Bando situation? [687.16] Curry: I saw the big was at a hospital where you just went through a corridor for it seemed like miles and [692.04] Curry: There's an awful lot of concrete about and stuff. How's the digital stuff holding up there? [699.32] Stephen: Which is 700 meters is about the max length that you can fly with digital [705.52] Stephen: I'm kind of a kind of 700 milliwatt to 1 watt level [709.2] Stephen: And some guys were flying on analog, but I think they're flying much more proximity style flying. I [715.52] Stephen: Was also and of last year and I could get most of the way down the corridor, but not all the way [723.12] Stephen: But that's when I stood in the corridor as well. Yeah [728.56] Stephen: You need to really think about where you're standing when you're flying out [731.72] Stephen: You can fly it one of the guys here. I think hurry you might have reviewed this the two and a half what? [737.36] Stephen: VTX with a little fan on top of me. Oh [739.96] Curry: Yeah, the the rush FPV one [742.92] Stephen: Yeah, so he's flying that and that seems to work pretty well [746.36] Stephen: But he's a one watt or two and half watts most of the time to get around from the issues [751.68] Stephen: He doesn't have an antenna [758.28] Stephen: Most people mount their antennas in a big lump of TPU at the back of the quad [762.32] Stephen: But the unlock but whatever reasons decided to make it put it in the most exposed situation [767.44] Stephen: Sticking out the back of his GoPro mount and so it's obviously just destroyed pretty much every crash [773.48] Stephen: But he's having a great time [777.69] Stephen: He's not here right now. That's that's our [779.69] Stephen: Crazy early to go to the van though. It's six o'clock. It's mine. Just say people that can do it. Yes [790.61] Stephen: Well, someone's gonna go have a look and see about [793.85] Stephen: But yeah, he's been having a great time. It's broken a few bits, but everyone like I said, I think he's still in the air [798.97] Stephen: at this point [801.57] Stephen: Longest record for the longest build of a quad ongoing because it's been about a week now and he's still not managed to solder everything up [808.77] Stephen: I'll also have a really interesting [811.25] Stephen: Finding technique where he lost it by his approach to finding the products was to fly another quad and crash it in exactly the same way [823.41] Stephen: And it sounds so stupid [825.73] Curry: But it was absolutely there is if you keep going and then she just end up with a pile and that's you can see it [831.33] Curry: From a better distance. It was it like a thicket of thorn bushes. It was horrible [835.97] Stephen: I got about like half a meter into it and I couldn't move without inflicting pain on myself [842.93] Stephen: Yeah, so it was tricky [846.53] Curry: So why are there so many massive bandos are these like unfinished building projects? [852.45] Stephen: Yeah [852.69] Stephen: So you may remember in the conflict in this part of the world [855.81] Stephen: it was supposed to be a hospital and some someone did a runner with all the money and left this half finished building and [862.21] Stephen: It sounds like they still haven't got proper hospitals and whenever there's a medical emergency. Unfortunately, they have lots of tents and things but [869.89] Stephen: Yeah, one of these [871.97] Stephen: Local politicians and the times of conflict just did a runner with all the money [878.78] Curry: nice [883.18] Curry: You can just get on with things there and nobody bats an eyelid. Oh, yeah, so the security situation well [889.42] Stephen: At one end there's still a warehouse and um [891.98] Stephen: The guys made the mistake of turning up there because they didn't have the local knowledge and the security guys don't like people [897.26] Stephen: Flying around the warehouse, but the rest of it's completely unused [900.94] Stephen: So we were flying up the other end a security guard came along [904.94] Stephen: He chatted to one of the local guys were very friendly [908.14] Stephen: We gave him an ice cream and he stood there for 15 minutes having a bit of a chat and watching us fly around [913.18] Stephen: He was perfectly cool [915.1] Stephen: It sounds like the liability laws are different here [918.38] Stephen: Like if someone comes onto your property and hurts themselves [920.86] Stephen: It's not your fault as property owner, which makes it much easier to go and fly at these bandos [928.3] Stephen: Cool, um one of the plans for the rest of the trailer [932.94] Stephen: Um, not breaking a law [937.74] Stephen: Which is uh, we'll eat everything you basically eat someone and pan around [943.98] Stephen: Give a little piece on splashy [946.3] Stephen: And then yes, a flash key is uh, it's a blender old [951.18] Stephen: uh paper factory I believe and [954.14] Stephen: It will literally consume anything that that steps on it. Uh, that is drones humans [960.6] Stephen: animals [961.98] Stephen: Uh, it is probably one of the most brutal places on on the planet [966.3] Stephen: But it is also one of the best bandos i've ever been to so that's gonna be fun [972.06] Stephen: My clipper there or you'll share a bit [974.86] Stephen: Yeah [978.86] Stephen: The history of it is um, it was a human blender [985.82] Stephen: Which they which they read uh, what's the word for they really [989.58] Stephen: We put this as a abandoned building for fb pellets [994.3] Stephen: Which is very you know, very nice very nice [997.48] Stephen: Unfortunately, it still works as a paper blender [1000.7] Stephen: Yeah, it can do a very good job blender part of it still active [1004.38] Stephen: Quite active. I hear you're bearing scars from previous trips. Yes. Um, I don't want to go back to you to get a match set [1010.22] Stephen: I don't know if we'll be able to see them all the the amount of mosquito bites they have but i'll um [1015.42] Stephen: Yeah, i'll i'll show it at some point [1018.54] Stephen: Also, uh philip one of the local guys that we've here oblivion and nailed go through his foot as well [1023.74] Stephen: Yeah, he did. Yeah, just went straight through [1026.3] Stephen: I felt I felt down the a man as well down a dream [1030.06] Stephen: Yeah, when we go there, we have to warn everybody like all the drains others are just gone. So and [1036.7] Stephen: I don't know what you were doing. We've got like [1039.18] Stephen: OBS inception we've gone meter exception. You see it? Yeah [1043.66] Stephen: No, it's just all bs from all we can see is all bs. No, no, it's good. It's good. Oh, oh, there we go [1049.42] Stephen: There's plastic [1051.58] Stephen: So lots of towers to drive the main attraction, right? [1054.94] Stephen: Uh, well, no the towers there's there's like one big tower I think but the main attraction would be [1061.18] Stephen: Like in one of the main buildings it's all opening inside. You can fly all around it and there's uh, [1066.62] Stephen: Giant holes that go through like two sets of giant holes [1070.38] Stephen: So you've got about three or four stories that you can just literally just fly straight up and then dive down the other side [1077.34] Stephen: There's there's buildings like this building there what i'm seeing there. That's um [1082.14] Stephen: Like yeah, there's there's the bits that you see with the uh, yeah with the holes that you can just dive and donut round [1088.78] Stephen: and all of the stairs are turned into [1091.34] Stephen: sand dunes [1096.46] Stephen: You can take the stairs all the way up but nobody in the right room would [1101.58] Stephen: So if you lose a quad if you lose a quad, I mean, yeah, you you gotta hope that somebody's [1106.7] Stephen: Um got a more big lack of self-preservation because that's what you need to go i'm willing to be brawling [1113.9] Stephen: Um, yeah [1115.9] Stephen: Because they're just perilous absolutely perilous those stairs [1119.26] Stephen: I mean I went about halfway up and going up isn't too bad [1122.38] Stephen: So you get about halfway up and then you're like, oh, yeah [1124.78] Stephen: No, i'm gonna turn around and then you turn around look down you're like [1129.5] Stephen: And yeah [1131.66] Stephen: Just kind of broken step through it. Uh, yeah, well they're not so much broken. They're just completely covered in sand [1136.78] Stephen: It's more like a ramp. Oh, yeah [1139.42] Stephen: A very slippery sandy ramp. Yeah [1144.38] Stephen: Sounds I may not be going to splasky [1148.86] Stephen: I've never been a coordinator for being kind of clumsy just just don't go upstairs. Yeah [1154.38] Stephen: So yeah [1156.78] Stephen: The crack here [1159.02] Stephen: That's the crash that's the crash to get nails through your feet [1163.74] Stephen: um [1165.42] Stephen: But yeah [1169.9] Stephen: Seems nice [1173.1] Stephen: Apart from [1174.22] Stephen: Gavin having a little [1176.3] Stephen: Moment. Gavin very kindly [1178.38] Stephen: Gave me his quad to fly. I i've given him fine to fly a bit early and I was like, oh, let's try the other three [1183.5] Stephen: Uh, and we found out what happens when um, someone goes on the same channel [1186.86] Stephen: But you don't have auto channel on the other three [1188.86] Stephen: So yeah, you're pretty much if you run in all three, you just just leave that on just leave it on auto [1193.02] Stephen: Yeah, because otherwise someone goes on the same channel as you and you just kind of gets through just doing some ash [1198.7] Stephen: Yeah mash for business. Yes. So yeah, I flew kiss again jack [1203.74] Stephen: Kiss, yeah, I flew a kiss [1206.54] Stephen: proper kiss squad with a [1208.54] Stephen: proper fusil frame [1210.86] Stephen: Oh, oh you see there jack scott kiss ultra t-shirt. What's this kiss ultra merchandise? [1218.62] Stephen: It's an fcfc [1222.62] Stephen: Omg, yeah [1225.42] Stephen: He's got quite linear rates. So he was a bit. I was a bit like oh, this is very slow [1229.74] Stephen: Of course very slow and i've got a ton of expo and [1233.9] Stephen: Much higher rates and and he was not happy about that [1237.58] Stephen: But um, yeah [1241.02] Curry: Soft bit of knowledge. It'd be very nice. What are the recovery options like someone mentioned [1246.14] Curry: Hitting a roof and having to get stuff. Is it when you're outside in grass? [1250.38] Curry: That's bad. But if you're crashing inside a dodgy building [1253.82] Curry: Someone here can climb quite well [1257.34] Stephen: A couple of people are okay. I I thought I've lost a quite an I was going to have to get a machete [1262.06] Stephen: Yes, we did bring a machete and hacked through the undergrowth [1265.74] Stephen: But then alph just kind of descended a small tree [1271.5] Stephen: Without prompting and said yeah, that's easy. And the next thing I had my quarterback in my hands 20 seconds later [1279.02] Stephen: um [1280.54] Stephen: Yeah, so some people are much better at climbing and others. Yeah, I think the first day I yeah, i've got your quad didn't I? [1286.86] Stephen: Damien rested like to get my quad back. I managed to get a [1291.1] Stephen: Because I wasn't powering off a beck my walk snail disconnected halfway through a flight and I got it stuck on the roof [1299.1] Stephen: Well, I crushed three that day all irrecoverable unless you use [1303.26] Stephen: Climbing and rocks and ropes and everything else [1307.02] Stephen: Uh, yeah, you were mati flipping a concrete trench that was five meters in the air and you landed in the concrete trench [1314.14] Stephen: You know the other five times before that I landed the mati flat. So [1317.66] Failsafe: How did you get that one out of the concrete trench then uh with great help from friends? [1326.3] Failsafe: There were no there were no failed attempts they involved crushing my own quad back into the trench [1331.74] Failsafe: And then having to get my friends to get both of the quads back out [1338.06] Stephen: It's amazing how good an idea it seems to be to rescue a quad with another quad when you've only got one quad left [1343.98] Stephen: To be fair though [1345.82] Stephen: Alf did do that at the mega panda. Yeah, because he he crashed a drone. We lost it [1351.1] Stephen: um [1351.98] Stephen: and [1353.34] Stephen: his genius plan of [1356.78] Stephen: Finding the drone was to take his other drone [1359.9] Stephen: um [1360.94] Stephen: And try and replicate the crash [1363.18] Stephen: But pay attention to where he crashed and it actually worked and he landed within three meters of the other drone [1367.9] Stephen: We found both like that. Fantastic [1369.9] Stephen: Like it actually worked. Yeah, like none of us expected it to work. I think we all shook his hand fair enough, mate [1376.54] Stephen: you know [1377.82] Stephen: The years in disbelief for that. Yeah that yeah [1381.34] Stephen: He found it within two or three minutes of rep again. Yeah [1385.34] Failsafe: Yeah, he was beepers people [1387.5] Stephen: Yeah [1388.3] Stephen: That's what i've got [1389.34] Stephen: Alf is someone who refuses to install beepers because I think he still refused to install beepers after spending two hours looking for a quad [1397.58] Stephen: Yeah, he spent the entire afternoon analyzing the DVR footage frame by frame [1402.78] Stephen: to replicate the crash and then it [1406.22] Stephen: I lost my first drone in the tree because the battery just sagged out and um [1411.5] Stephen: It just completely died as soon as it went up [1413.58] Stephen: It just went straight down into the top of the tree and I just couldn't find it because there's too many trees about and um [1419.82] Stephen: Yeah, I spent hours looking for that went back the next day couldn't find it at all and after that i'm like, yeah beepers is the way it was [1430.42] Stephen: Unless you're good at either the five trees beepers [1433.46] Stephen: Yeah, but yeah, i'd say 90 [1436.26] Stephen: 95 of the mega bundle is [1438.64] Stephen: accessible for [1439.94] Stephen: Recovery if you can climb and so this is not it's not too bad if you end up tonight [1448.1] Curry: Well, I hope you got enough pods to last another week you guys that are doing another week [1452.58] Curry: Sounds like they're [1454.58] Curry: Will you last another week? [1456.98] Stephen: I mean [1458.98] Stephen: For me personally at the current rate hopefully yeah, because i've only broke [1462.34] Stephen: A single carbon plate. So it keeps going that way [1466.9] Stephen: And you've been crashing parts. I've been crashing. Yeah decent records [1470.1] Stephen: But yeah, the numbers and my new frame are holding up very well. So what'd you put that down to? [1474.98] Stephen: um [1476.42] Stephen: Yeah [1478.42] Stephen: My new friend i've got has got sort of it's got six mil arms three mil base plates [1483.3] Stephen: um [1484.34] Stephen: So obviously they're very strong in themselves [1487.62] Stephen: So woodchuck um wasp frame [1490.82] Stephen: Um, so the whole leafy version. Yes, the guy on instagram. Um, Kevin is one company called woodchuck fbb [1497.78] Stephen: Um, so i saw josh find them. So i've given them a try [1501.62] Stephen: And they've been doing really well [1503.3] Stephen: And when he noticed as well, I was doing bells every single time. I had five previous ones [1508.9] Stephen: um [1510.34] Stephen: Which were axis fine? [1512.02] Stephen: um, and now on amax spender edition i've not got a single bell and i've been fighting for [1518.58] Stephen: And I saw some cement chips on those [1520.66] Stephen: Yeah, exactly. It's the sort of if you're a hollow hollow design so that if you do get any um with [1526.5] Stephen: So it doesn't oh, so like the bell is right. It's got yeah, it's got semi hollow design [1532.1] Stephen: So if it is if it is entered then it won't go into the [1536.58] Stephen: actual status [1539.46] Stephen: So [1556.02] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience downloaded and edited to make sense when it played audio only [1562.74] Frank: Censored to please the itunes people hosted on the internet forwarded through to your podcast provider [1567.54] Frank: Downloaded playing on your device and is now playing in your ears all thanks to our patreons [1573.3] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits [1576.74] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com [1579.78] Frank: Let's drone out [1581.78] Curry: I was gonna ask jack about [1583.94] Curry: Tony coming to visit you with the x-class. What's what's going on with that? [1587.38] Jack: I have been through [1589.22] Jack: Why class as hell? [1591.62] Jack: It has been horrendous. I feel like i've been tortured and mind [1595.78] Jack: Uh [1598.34] Jack: He showed up just generally tony visiting you or something else. Yeah, it was worse than usual because [1605.06] Jack: he showed up with quads [1607.94] Jack: And uh, some of them were so badly made and maintained that they had little [1613.54] Jack: land mines [1615.22] Jack: and I already I [1618.18] Jack: Was uh sort of removing a [1621.86] Jack: Uh [1623.92] Jack: Receiver and the [1627.46] Jack: The cable had frayed and then shorted on a battery pad [1633.86] Jack: And the negative through the receiver and then tried the chip [1639.14] Jack: so [1640.9] Jack: I uh reflowed an f405 from this wing flight controller [1646.98] Jack: And put one back on got that up and running tested the receiver receiver's dead just like [1654.82] Jack: Nightmare [1657.78] Jack: so [1658.66] Jack: But after that it was all smooth sailing [1661.54] Jack: Um, his quads are fairly somewhat easy to set up [1666.26] Jack: due to the fact that [1668.02] Jack: Uh, he literally has one mode arm and that's it if he's lucky a buzzer [1674.74] Jack: And if i've set it up he has flip over [1678.42] Jack: on crash [1680.42] Jack: And that's the three modes he has that's it nothing else [1685.38] Stephen: Is anyone using turtle mode on [1689.9] Jack: No, no [1691.66] Jack: Damn it. It was like can you imagine trying to use flip over and crash on that? [1696.46] Jack: It was like the biggest way to china [1699.66] Curry: It's like those those props are 50 quid a set you would you wouldn't want to run them if it was upside down [1705.74] UNKNOWN: No [1707.1] Jack: Would you like to see the black box data? [1710.3] Curry: No, not really. Oh, yeah to determine if the [1713.9] Curry: Sorry [1714.62] Curry: Was the idea that the motor fell off in flight or something or [1718.78] Curry: Did it happen after is that black box that you're going to tell us? [1723.92] Jack: Uh, let let me uh, well, I can play it for you and we can play [1729.76] Jack: um [1730.48] Jack: Guess guess what happened [1734.16] Curry: Is the answer jack blew backwards into a hill [1737.6] Jack: Uh, that's always a possibility [1739.76] Stephen: It's the answer that there was a huge motor attached to a very small bit of carbon [1744.72] Stephen: onto a very large frame [1748.19] Jack: um [1748.99] Jack: Yeah, i'm leaning i'm leaning on more of that to be honest with you because I think that with the counter sinking [1757.47] Jack: On the already like, you know a push five mil carbon [1762.99] Jack: Once you've count the sunk it leaves about two mil left. Yeah to just [1768.09] Stephen: Delaminate with a big old heavy helps it delam as well, doesn't it? [1774.58] Jack: It's it's it's truly incredible [1777.22] Jack: So, uh here we have it [1780.1] Jack: Uh, let me know if you guys can see this all right [1786.66] Jack: Okay, we'll go full screen so tony arms [1792.42] Jack: Tony takes off [1794.58] Jack: started taking off [1796.74] Jack: And then we can see when [1800.02] Jack: tony is about to do a turn [1803.62] Jack: That's tony turning [1805.86] Jack: That's how much noise and gyro data is big big wibbly wobbly lines [1811.38] Jack: Um [1813.22] Jack: And I will slow it down then there's tony flying the other way [1818.58] Jack: And here [1820.82] Jack: Is the moment of doom? [1823.38] Jack: Let me just break that down for you [1825.78] Jack: as you can see [1829.46] Jack: Yeah, as you can see the [1832.26] Jack: You'll notice that all of a sudden this motor doesn't do anything [1836.74] Jack: motor one [1838.58] Jack: and then motor two [1841.22] Jack: And three stay as they are a motor four ramps all the way up [1847.3] Jack: Then followed by the flip of day [1851.54] Jack: Motor four is no longer attached but you can see that there is no [1856.98] Jack: Nothing from motor four anymore because the quad is flipping and spinning [1862.66] Jack: to its doom [1864.18] Jack: Uh, I do like the perfect pat man there. Not many people can do that [1868.98] Jack: And then that's the x-class upside down banging around on the floor [1875.12] Stephen: There you go. It's nice of tony to test that with a new frame. That's very big [1879.44] Jack: Um, if I also sent me a few videos [1883.84] Jack: on discord [1887.68] Jack: If I play them do you want to get the [1891.82] Jack: relevant [1893.44] Jack: Pilot sat next to you to go through it. That would be awesome. Yeah [1899.52] Stephen: Okay, great comment on your videos guys, we've got a few lined up [1902.4] Stephen: Maybe if jack can give us a little running order, let us know whose videos he's got [1908.8] Stephen: They know all gonna be gas [1911.36] Stephen: All rowans and gaffes videos is the question [1915.12] Jack: Yeah, well you can [1916.72] Jack: You can still send me some more [1919.28] Jack: so [1920.08] Jack: Yeah, this is uh phillips. So if you want to [1925.6] Stephen: Oh [1928.0] Stephen: Here he's doing family stuff. He's a local pilot. So he's not but that's the moment [1932.4] Stephen: But he knows these sites very well, so he's done some excellent flying [1936.72] Jack: Okay, cool, so yeah, we're like top of a building [1941.6] Jack: Diving through a shaft lots of crashing [1946.48] Curry: Is it diving through a shaft if you just hit the top of it and fall down [1951.2] Jack: I don't know [1953.76] Jack: Yeah, that was the first [1956.96] Stephen: It gets better [1958.88] Stephen: But yeah, it's quite a fun place to find a big concrete length was outside this kind of um [1964.72] Stephen: Really [1965.76] Stephen: He's very uninspired called it new bando [1971.57] Stephen: Who's right was this are we still? [1977.25] Stephen: So yeah, this was on today's spot this is a local pilot [1979.97] Stephen: He was using this to show us the way around the bando and then we decided to go there and flew a few packs [1985.09] Stephen: I think fail safe. Well fail saved in or or ditched it in a number of interesting places, didn't you Rowan? [1992.69] Stephen: Yeah [1995.17] Stephen: Well, I didn't have turtle mode working. So [1997.73] Stephen: I crashed at the very top of the tower and then I landed upside down. I couldn't get [2003.01] Stephen: The right way up. So I was that one. I know two off. I've skidded into you. Yeah [2007.89] Stephen: Look me off the end [2010.61] Stephen: So [2017.65] Stephen: This is philip again [2019.17] Stephen: So yeah, apparently at the top of that building when fail safe disarmed at the top [2023.17] Stephen: He was bowled off by another disarmed quad that just flung itself at him [2029.95] Stephen: Yes, this is the mega band now again [2033.55] Stephen: Yeah, so this is the disused hospital we're talking about the mega bando [2037.79] Stephen: And and philip absolutely killing it because he knows the side bits go well [2042.11] Stephen: And he's a pretty good pilot. So he knows all the areas you can go and where he can't go [2046.03] Stephen: Whereas we're still traffic less stuff [2048.51] Stephen: Only pretty good. I'd say it's pretty great [2052.51] Stephen: Another lift shaft dive there. I don't think any of us have the guts to do this many of us haven't even found these parts [2058.03] Stephen: Yeah, if you found these lift tracks, we were we were here earlier. I think they were here this morning [2062.35] Stephen: We're at this spot this area of the mega bando this morning. Yeah, I'll try all this [2068.11] Stephen: Last year as well [2070.11] Stephen: Yeah [2071.31] Stephen: None of us did as much justice as philip's doing here. No [2075.15] Stephen: There's a few nice [2076.91] Stephen: nice roof downs and things [2079.23] Stephen: Over the other way [2080.59] Stephen: Um, any other videos jack? [2085.07] Jack: FPV Vegas, I guess [2087.71] Jack: Argos [2089.07] Jack: Oh, yeah, this was last year. What is that? If I blew them real quick [2092.83] Jack: Where where is this? Is it a concrete factory? It's a paper factory, isn't it? [2100.27] Jack: Is it? [2101.63] Stephen: I thought that was the title was this looks like [2105.63] Stephen: It looks great, but at the same time tales of how people have like cut themselves to pieces retrieving quads makes me nervous [2113.31] Stephen: Yeah, but as long as you're aware of there and you've been with people who've flown there before I think you've got it [2119.07] Curry: Does does does the fear of crashing make you hold back what you actually want to do and what you do do? [2126.19] Stephen: I don't know [2128.27] Stephen: Both guys here are pushing pretty hard, but I I don't really enjoy that flippy floppy style of flying so much. So [2134.51] Stephen: I'm quite happy just [2136.11] Stephen: moseying on around [2138.19] Stephen: I don't know. What does everyone else think? Are you put off by crashing? Oh, yeah [2141.87] Stephen: Yeah [2143.87] Stephen: No, I mean it's it's obviously when you're doing freestyle and roof dives and all that jazz in a concrete palace [2151.39] Stephen: It's part of the hobby. So [2153.71] Stephen: I mean it does is often [2156.27] Stephen: In a sense, but if you sort of build up the confidence and do a few [2160.27] Stephen: Smaller dives and build it up and up. That's what I tend to do and then [2163.79] Stephen: Just getting more confident as the session goes on. I think [2166.91] Stephen: That sort of resets the next day and you build yourself up again [2170.03] Stephen: In my in my uh, so you're doing your best packs at the end of the day [2172.99] Stephen: So did notice but you got your stick coming out was always like the last I tend to record. I tend to do [2178.27] Stephen: probably [2179.55] Stephen: At least eight or ten packs before I even start recording with an action cam. So [2189.79] Stephen: It's almost as if you start flying differently when the stick I get stage I get stage right because I know i'm recording [2196.27] Stephen: This needs to be [2198.27] Stephen: For me, it's like for in my outfit on [2200.51] Stephen: About to go on stage when you get stick cam on, you know that [2203.63] Stephen: You're filming for exactly for instagram [2210.03] Stephen: To kind of changes the vibe and definitely as soon as as soon as the stick cam goes on it feels [2215.39] Stephen: Now there's no audience. Yeah, you know, I mean it's even though it's not live streaming anything. It just feels [2222.51] Grant: Yeah [2226.83] Grant: Filmed yourself [2229.71] Grant: Yeah [2234.27] Stephen: So [2235.23] Stephen: Favorite pilot who is there any consensus as to who's in the lead in the trick stakes? Oh, yeah, definitely you [2242.43] Stephen: Who's pulling off the biggest tricks do we think [2245.39] Stephen: Yeah, maybe maybe not biggest tricks, but who's who spent the most money so far and I probably would say that i've spent most [2251.79] Stephen: money [2253.79] Stephen: And that's not a good thing. All right, so so gav [2256.99] Stephen: I spent the most money on breakages, which means that he must be flying harder than everyone else. That's one way of looking at it [2263.55] Stephen: Yeah, roan roan is [2266.35] Stephen: He's in a very very poor second [2270.59] Stephen: Roja's just carbon fiber damages, so it's nothing [2274.19] Stephen: Um, I mean he's done some epic power loops. Yeah. No, you've made it, you know, his power looks hard enough to get arrested. Yes [2280.75] Stephen: So that's the no one else can say that in germany before you've got a creation [2285.87] Stephen: and [2286.91] Stephen: This guy's drove. Yeah, that was yeah roan drove to a bando and that the cops were called over by the sound of [2293.79] Stephen: Damaged screaming props as roan repeatedly powered it to large warehouse [2299.23] Stephen: Until until he was arrested. Uh, so yeah [2302.75] Stephen: Harold it's so hard. He was actually arrest him [2306.83] Stephen: He spent about 20 minutes on the police station [2310.27] Stephen: In germany in germany, but no he wasn't [2313.95] Stephen: Uh, they they they took all our details probably did nothing with them. But yeah, it was there was uh, [2319.55] Stephen: Not much need for a police through there [2323.55] Stephen: The second round of noise complained when the security were too lazy to do the proper security job and they also said we had [2329.79] Stephen: Dodgy number planes. Yeah, they couldn't really fake uk sticker that was yeah [2335.79] Stephen: Idiots [2338.03] Stephen: Yeah, it was it was definitely roan. Um [2340.91] Stephen: I would have been with [2342.35] Stephen: You know three inch props on a five inch squad [2345.95] Stephen: Straight you have to crash this all the time [2348.91] Stephen: Which which drew the attention of the creation police and was that the footage that jack was showing at the start the show [2354.11] Stephen: I think that was it. He was doing an instagram overlay [2357.39] Stephen: Jack. Yes [2358.59] Stephen: So I think that was the occasion when he was like power loop into power loop into power loop into power loop into power loop [2365.23] Stephen: Yeah, and it's just like no throttle full throttle no throttle full throttle no throttle full throttle [2382.45] Jack: I'm not too sure which one it is [2385.73] Stephen: Oh [2386.37] Stephen: It's when he's in that he's in the figure [2388.53] Stephen: With a shredded ceiling and he's doing a loop and then diving through the slats in the ceiling and then back again [2395.81] Stephen: It was the same spot that you were showing of gavin while he was talking earlier [2399.89] Stephen: Gav's most recent upload. I think it was that spot [2403.25] Stephen: But we'll do this one [2408.61] Stephen: Yeah, I believe [2413.25] Stephen: It's like a long shed I know the one the one before that the one before that one [2419.23] Jack: What the one I was just playing? [2422.19] Stephen: Oh, he hasn't uploaded it never mind if you go to gavin's profile that that's the spot [2428.45] Stephen: I thought you'd put it up, bro [2430.45] Stephen: No, that's back in the uk [2433.89] Stephen: Oh, it's on it's on tiktok not instagram [2437.89] Stephen: It's the media sally answer with his [2440.61] Stephen: platforms [2441.65] Stephen: Well, no one else is you see except for roan's demographic. They'll go crazy for their stuff and dance moves, you know [2448.85] Stephen: This is the spot [2453.02] Jack: Yeah, I think and failsafe has to ruin it for everyone [2457.98] Stephen: Think ron's uh nailing the the media [2461.1] Stephen: Side of this, you know getting those viewers getting subs [2465.66] Stephen: Getting that tiktok moolah [2468.38] Stephen: 400 nighs, but it's pretty decent for nothing i'm getting a y4 era saying we're seeing it on low [2476.7] Stephen: It is yo [2479.42] Stephen: Pb in the chat is the guy that we um, we flew with the other day. Yeah, um one with the uh lift shaft dives [2486.38] Stephen: And who also who called it someone called a pillar paradise the other day pillar paradise. Yeah [2492.3] Stephen: Terrible idea [2494.3] Stephen: Yeah [2495.9] Stephen: And you were doing a little bit for camera as well, weren't you doing some [2499.5] Stephen: Little video stuff. Oh, yeah. I've done anything with that. Yeah, but yeah, i'll i'll try and do something with that at least [2506.3] Stephen: I'm no video editor. So it's going to be disgusting. So so what was the concept just to introduce it [2512.3] Stephen: I wrote my name on the back of a pillar like jinxed fpv and I got people to stand in front of the pillar [2518.22] Stephen: um [2518.94] Stephen: And my my goal was to orbit around the pillar a few times when people do different poses and then I could like [2525.26] Stephen: Edit it together so that it looks like one continual orbit where the people keep changing in the middle [2531.66] Stephen: So that was my idea. Um, I thought it was a good idea [2534.7] Stephen: um [2535.74] Stephen: It's just the uh, it's great idea in theory, but in in practice for somebody as [2541.58] Stephen: Yeah, i'm not as good education [2545.1] Stephen: Execution you've got to do perfect all that same height same distance, which is yeah, which I can't do [2551.82] Stephen: It's just going to be dirty. But you know, i'll try and [2556.06] Stephen: Mavic yeah, well, yeah, maybe I have thought about it. In fact, I was considering getting the uh [2562.54] Stephen: uh [2563.26] Stephen: Mavic three min. Yeah pro. Yeah, mini free pro. Yeah [2566.78] Stephen: Um, my book I actually convinced my boss to get one and he's used it once [2571.02] Stephen: In fact, it's been used once by me because i'm the only one on the firm allowed to pilot it [2576.3] Stephen: His his son did have a go and managed to crash it into a bin [2580.7] Stephen: so [2586.14] Stephen: No how he managed to crash it when it's got that many sensors and stuff to stop it from crash [2590.3] Stephen: And mavics are essential tools. It's what you use to find your other quads once you crash. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're the uh, [2597.48] Stephen: reconnaissance [2598.78] Stephen: drone [2608.78] Stephen: The pilot who's doing all those shots of the various bando sites [2616.3] Stephen: Oh, right, yeah, yeah i've got [2621.26] Stephen: Hello [2624.94] Stephen: I'm just peering in yeah [2627.18] Stephen: Yeah and practice people show butts which I think might be a reference to uh, yeah to him [2633.34] Stephen: I show my ass quite a lot when people [2636.38] Stephen: I've got a very um high-res high-res picture of phillips bum [2641.34] Stephen: On camera because that was one of his poses was to just yeah [2645.74] Stephen: For his hands. I have another video of grant [2651.42] SwissFPV: The idea of getting a shot between the pillars everybody were passing with different poses as well to make a funny [2658.38] SwissFPV: shots of [2659.66] SwissFPV: Us present us somehow and have a very good one of grant who is not a pilot, but he showed us something more than flying [2669.82] SwissFPV: I'm about to post it, but hopefully he will be a green [2673.18] Failsafe: Yes, yeah available on sites other than youtube [2679.5] Stephen: Join peter's only fans for that one [2685.02] Stephen: I look forward to seeing that actually [2697.74] Stephen: But no the full video with everything with yeah with like sadly here trying to kill [2705.02] Stephen: Yeah [2710.46] Stephen: The site was just a epic epic site definitely coming back here next year [2715.18] Jack: We want to make it here [2718.54] Grant: Who's crashed in the most stupidest lie [2730.16] Stephen: Well, I crashed mine with a twig on the bottom didn't I with a rope and a twig on the bottom trying to get one back [2735.04] Stephen: Yeah, I think that's going to be the stupidest crash [2737.6] Stephen: I got a quad stuck in like a deep v that was maybe like two or three foot deep [2744.4] Stephen: Um, I was trying to matti flip it and I was like, it's fine [2747.12] Stephen: I'll just get it back with my other quad with a rope and a piece of twig at the bottom and i'll just go forward [2752.64] Stephen: And pick it up and then just give it an extra blip of throttle and all fall down [2756.24] Stephen: um in reality what happened is that I hit the column that the pillow that the [2762.16] Stephen: The thing was connected to went backwards landed straight into the the valley that the first quad was stuck in [2768.16] Stephen: So then I had two quads stuck in the same place [2770.96] Stephen: brilliant [2772.8] Stephen: That was the point we said boys [2774.4] Stephen: Let's be a bit more stupid and just use a piece of rope instead of these smart techniques. Yeah [2778.64] Stephen: Yeah, let's go back to k-fan techniques. Yeah tied like a loop [2782.16] Stephen: Like a big loop in a in a long piece of string tied a rock the other end throw that through that over [2787.36] Stephen: And then just kind of went backwards and forward till we hook them and [2790.8] Stephen: Pull them off was like a hooker duck or whatever it is in the carnival with a big stick. Yes [2796.64] Stephen: Like two player. Yeah [2799.76] Stephen: That doesn't mean too bad to be fair. No one's got it stuck in extreme places like way up by [2805.12] Jack: No, does anyone feel safe? [2808.4] Stephen: Has anyone failed properly? I don't think [2811.6] Stephen: My micro fail safe when my antenna wasn't connected properly, but that was that [2815.84] Stephen: So if we if we want to if we want to go to clashy [2818.88] Stephen: There is probably a 500 or 600 quad sitting in the grass somewhere [2823.44] Stephen: Which we couldn't find that really? Yeah, it's only spanked out with all all the good the good [2829.12] Stephen: Yeah [2832.16] Stephen: Well, I I mean the okay stuff, you know the pre one the pre one [2837.44] Stephen: Yeah [2844.56] Stephen: Yeah, that hasn't been too much of religious religious bards here [2850.0] Stephen: I am very religious and [2853.92] Stephen: Fettig is in one of them. Yeah, it's uh [2857.44] Stephen: High priest on the way over. Yeah, who's your favorite of the twelve guests got you on your blessing, bro [2862.72] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, I actually met alex fedroll on the way on the way. We took a [2867.28] Stephen: A trip to uh, the netherlands an hour long detour and hour long detour ended up being [2872.88] Stephen: Like a two day day time. It's just seven hours eight hours [2876.96] Stephen: and then a couple of the guys being locked up in a gym because for a couple of hours, but [2887.12] Stephen: We got some some spanking solvers, uh, which is basically the same as speak louder gaff [2893.84] Stephen: Yeah, okay [2901.36] Stephen: Got to meet alex fedroll in the flash which was amazing [2906.72] Stephen: All right, um, yeah, i'm right in there right now. Yeah. Yes. We dropped them there long net netherlands [2912.8] Stephen: Netherlands got to meet alex fedroll, which was nice and he fed me pizza and cake. Did you see his cats? [2918.32] Stephen: Yes, I seen his cats and they uh [2920.8] Stephen: They should not be [2922.32] Stephen: In a house. They should be in a in a in safari. They were they were they were like crazy big tiger king [2928.88] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, he's literally tiger king [2934.32] Stephen: Well, I went to see fedroff and had some food with him and some coffee [2937.84] Stephen: And I was my eyes would fall out my head. I'm so tired after driving for so long [2942.08] Stephen: and then [2943.44] Stephen: So we decided to stay in the nicest hotel [2945.76] Stephen: Yeah, then then we decided to stay in the nicest hotel in frank was in frankfurt or no [2952.8] Stephen: Dassledorf dassledorf. Yes, we after that we went to dassledorf and stayed in a [2957.76] Stephen: Uh romantic living hotel. Yeah, i'm not going to say anything else because we'll probably get booted off youtube for it [2966.32] Stephen: But no it was good it was good and it was very very nice to meet uh alex in the flesh, you know [2972.16] Stephen: The flesh yeah, he's a lovely guy [2974.8] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, he totally did [2977.76] Stephen: Stephen just went to get himself to be here and didn't get anyone else to be here [2980.88] Stephen: I had a video but I have been staring at it and i'm not going to open it for the whole show. So damn [2986.8] Jack: Okay [2988.4] Jack: Who's been man of the match? Do you say? Was the guy rescuing quads or? [2994.0] Stephen: A man of the match is probably damien. Yeah, i was going to say damien [2998.24] Stephen: Damien is man of the match. He's like the quad retrieval tazan [3005.2] Stephen: If a quad is in a very weird [3008.72] Stephen: Is usually the first one in that weird obscure place uh collecting the quad so on [3013.44] Stephen: Damien, yeah, I think last year turn around yourself. You know, we all know jinx the fbv is but this is man of the match [3020.96] Stephen: How's it going guys? I think last year I ended up in a sewer system. Um [3025.92] Stephen: Yeah [3030.0] Stephen: Um, yeah, i'll just 20 minutes for the first 20 minutes. Yeah. Yeah first 20 minutes [3034.24] Stephen: I just i'll just sit we'll go for a little walk around the megabando and i'll see a text going [3038.4] Stephen: Who's good at climbing? So I was like, right? Let's go [3042.0] Stephen: But yeah, um, it's like uh [3044.96] Stephen: Like a bit of a weird metal thing that you just scale up it and then slide across the top really dodgily where there's like [3051.84] Stephen: Concrete that way and forms and a 40 foot drop that way and yeah, like you have confidence in your abilities [3059.6] Stephen: Yeah, either that or i'd probably yeah [3065.36] Stephen: Yeah [3074.32] Stephen: Shimmy in a cross trying to get back into [3077.76] Stephen: a place [3081.68] Stephen: Yeah, no, that's that's yeah, so that's terrifying the man is both crazy and a legend at the same time [3090.08] Stephen: Yes, it was my quad so I have to be nice [3094.0] Stephen: Yeah, i'm sure you yeah, we've agreed on with the [3097.36] Stephen: 25 beers or something. Yeah, I still haven't received any of them. So, um, you know [3105.68] SwissFPV: Yes [3112.16] SwissFPV: As I fly for a while now [3114.48] SwissFPV: I had many quads [3116.08] SwissFPV: and i've never built any myself and [3119.36] SwissFPV: Having an occasion having all those great people around me, especially gavin [3123.92] SwissFPV: I tried to build myself and even to record a video how I build it, but [3129.76] SwissFPV: It wasn't that good that it wasn't that easy for me and eventually gav just took it over [3135.28] SwissFPV: And and he got this and he soldered everything in 20 minutes [3139.2] SwissFPV: And finally I got that quad, but that's funny story because I was [3143.04] SwissFPV: Sure that i'm gonna learn how to build it and then I realized it's more complicated than I thought really [3148.48] SwissFPV: It was like he was repeating some connectors. He was [3152.48] SwissFPV: Ah, well, he was doing crazy crazy things that are by the end at the end [3158.08] SwissFPV: I've got the perfect quad flying so well [3161.28] SwissFPV: And I I can't wait to test it in real because I did it test a little bit [3165.6] SwissFPV: But I was not confident enough because uh some uh different camera angle and i'm like I can't do any proper freestyle [3172.48] SwissFPV: I'll do more cinematic [3174.72] SwissFPV: but [3175.68] SwissFPV: um [3177.04] SwissFPV: Tomorrow, hopefully i'll go and i'll push it more harder. So i'll bring some footage to show maybe [3183.04] SwissFPV: And if i'll release the video where I build it [3186.16] SwissFPV: Where we build gav [3188.16] SwissFPV: The main question is what what flight control is in there? The main question is what the flight control is there [3193.84] SwissFPV: No [3195.84] Stephen: It was all [3197.28] Stephen: FETEC fully controller FETEC ESC until he breaks it it will be a kiss ultra [3202.4] Stephen: Um until he breaks it and then I imagine a flybeat [3207.6] Stephen: And richard we are all definitely registered with the asa 100 [3211.76] SwissFPV: But the guv said once I tried the kiss ultra i'm gonna try to sell my old quads and that's true [3217.6] SwissFPV: I have about 11 quads for sale guys [3220.56] SwissFPV: So message me if anybody is interested in [3224.72] SwissFPV: In a purchase [3232.54] Jack: Steven do you want to see us out? That's pretty much all we've got time for [3237.74] Stephen: All right [3238.86] Stephen: Well, thank you very much for everyone and we're sorry about the technical difficulties here [3244.7] Stephen: so this is by from myself, uh, stephen belrick and uh [3250.38] Stephen: Our awesome pilots here [3252.38] Stephen: gav [3253.34] Stephen: ben ben [3255.34] Stephen: eta [3256.62] Stephen: gethin [3258.22] Stephen: saddler [3259.34] Stephen: jinx fbv here grant and of course fell safe at the end [3273.86] Stephen: Thanks very much and see you next week. Bye [3276.5] Stephen: Bye [3285.62] Stephen: Telemetry loss