=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 414 ===
Title: LDO 414 - With Special Guest WRL UK
Recorded: 2023-08-03
Hosts: Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Stephen "Belrik" Howell
Guest(s): Brady Stewart, Matt "Stubbsy" Stubbs
Total audience: 1,124
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-NAd4m8EuE); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1584230771-letsdroneout-ldo-414-with-special-guest-wrl-uk.mp3)
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[0.0] SPEAKER_02: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons
[6.28] SPEAKER_02: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] SPEAKER_02: we say.
[13.0] SPEAKER_02: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] SPEAKER_02: Carlos Campos!
[16.0] SPEAKER_02: Art Faulkner.
[17.84] Stephen: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Stephen: On with the show.
[20.68] SPEAKER_02: Hello, and welcome back, you're listening to Let's Drone Out.
[56.67] SPEAKER_02: Tonight we have our Lord of Master who's reigning over us, Angie slash Frank.
[61.55] SPEAKER_02: Good evening.
[63.75] SPEAKER_02: We've got the usual everyone's favourite curry kitten.
[67.39] Curry: Hello!
[68.95] SPEAKER_02: The reason why we're late, Steven.
[73.87] SPEAKER_02: He's been working out.
[74.87] SPEAKER_02: It's very light today, very bright day.
[77.19] SPEAKER_02: He's going to be ripped for you, ladies and gentlemen.
[81.83] SPEAKER_02: I'm your host, Brian Todfly, and we are joined by the wing racing lads, Stubsy.
[88.07] SPEAKER_02: Hello!
[89.07] SPEAKER_02: And Brady 404, not found, FPV.
[93.51] SPEAKER_02: Yes, hello, good evening.
[95.19] SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, Frank's in charge, over to you, Frank.
[99.31] Frank: Yeah, well, I wanted to get these two guys on.
[101.75] Frank: I mean, we were speaking about the wing racing a few episodes ago, and we had Chris G on,
[107.59] Frank: and we were talking about his various escapades.
[110.95] Frank: We were talking about the wing race back in May.
[113.99] Frank: And then earlier this week, surprise to everyone, my article that I drafted up in about 20 minutes
[121.15] Frank: and sent to the BMFA for feedback got published without me knowing in advance.
[128.07] Frank: So that was exciting to turn the page and see that.
[132.15] Frank: So we've been covering the wing racing league UK quite a bit recently.
[138.91] Frank: So we should have you two guys on being the sort of main figureheads of wing racing in
[144.79] Frank: the UK at the moment.
[145.79] Frank: I mean, wing racing has been going on for a long time in the US, and we've had a basically
[153.27] Frank: every year, we've tried to get some wing racing going somewhere at least once, I feel like
[159.07] Frank: for the past seven years.
[162.15] Frank: And then you guys have actually got a league going, it seems, I would say.
[168.11] Frank: It's actually something happening in that you've got like multiple events happening this year.
[173.99] Brady: Yeah, it's definitely trying.
[175.47] Brady: And to be fair, he's doing most of the work with getting sites online and getting the dates
[180.83] Brady: in the diary.
[181.91] Brady: I just turn up and plug things in.
[184.91] Frank: Well, there's a lot of things to plug in and a lot of things to fit back in your van at
[190.39] Frank: the end of the day, as we found out.
[193.03] Frank: But yeah, I mean, so wing racing, for anyone who hasn't been to one, if you've been to
[198.27] Frank: a quad race, you'll know that it's sort of 30 seconds of something being very loud and
[205.35] Frank: not being able to see very much.
[207.71] Frank: And then it stops and then you wait five minutes for the next one.
[211.35] Frank: And wing racing, because there's something actually quite big in the sky here, I mean,
[216.55] Frank: you can see one behind Matt there is there's another one here that I have flown and crashed
[222.31] Frank: into things.
[223.31] Frank: Well, that one's up there.
[225.75] Frank: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[227.35] Frank: So it's what was the size, you said it's 40 inches the maximum size, right?
[232.67] Stubbsy: Yeah, we're at the moment, we're running a little bit of an open class, up to 40 inches,
[237.95] Stubbsy: up to four cell and up to I think it's a 2200 kV motor in there, Brady.
[243.83] Stubbsy: Yeah, I think we'll stop at that.
[245.87] Stubbsy: Yeah, we are hoping basically if it grows or whatever to then basically go to almost
[250.95] Stubbsy: an unlimited class, stuff like the hard cause, sorry, that way there behind me, the yellow
[256.67] Stubbsy: one and larger wings basically.
[259.99] Stubbsy: But at the moment, we're trying to keep it plain and simple and see where it goes, really.
[264.67] Stubbsy: Gather enough pilots together.
[266.75] Curry: I wanted to ask a question.
[270.03] Curry: And I tried to look for my prop and I couldn't find it.
[272.59] Curry: I have got one of these wings that has a carbon fiber middle section.
[277.63] Curry: And the idea is if you crash it, the wings pop off and the middle section is OK.
[281.95] Curry: Is that not acceptable for wing racing?
[284.11] Curry: Because I read the thing, it seemed to be it should be all sort of foamy with a rear
[289.75] Curry: prop.
[290.75] Curry: Is that pretty much the thing you can like, you can cover it, but there shouldn't be any
[295.39] Curry: carbon.
[296.39] Brady: Yeah.
[297.39] Brady: The specs do state like the general construction should be foam and it's more of a safety thing
[303.55] Brady: than anything else.
[304.55] Brady: Obviously, if you unfortunately hit a spectator or anything else, then yeah, with carbon fiber
[310.95] Brady: it can make quite a bit of a damage.
[312.71] Stubbsy: It's also the fact, to be honest with you, with the blow up gates, with the inflatable,
[316.51] Stubbsy: they're actually getting ripped quite badly just from Corax.
[320.19] Stubbsy: So what we were literally thinking, if you start putting it like with carbon fiber into
[325.19] Stubbsy: the into the frame, it'll end up like confetti basically.
[330.27] Curry: I'm going to have to rethink my wing race here because that was that was my that was
[334.55] Curry: my big idea.
[335.55] Curry: But now now I have to think of something else.
[338.39] Frank: But yeah, I mean, talking about the gates, I mean, so the the track that we had back
[343.87] Frank: in May, you had your your nice big inflatable gate that I could actually fit through most
[350.23] Frank: of the time.
[351.47] Frank: And you had a load of flags and it was it was a kind of a NASCAR Ovals with a bit of
[356.71] Frank: a chicane on the on the opposite side, really.
[359.67] Frank: So you've still got the same time and equipment that is used in the quad racing, still same
[366.19] Frank: sort of like format for the racing where you've got your two minute times and you're trying
[372.55] Frank: to get as many laps in that two minutes as you can.
[376.99] Frank: It's really, really good to watch.
[378.71] Frank: I mean, we had the the screens that you set up, Brady.
[382.59] Frank: So like all the spectators that came along and they were quite a few spectators throughout
[387.67] Frank: the weekend, you know, could see the feeds, but you didn't really have to look at the
[393.87] Frank: feeds because you could see the wings.
[395.75] Frank: You've got something big and colorful flying through the sky, making lots of noise in a
[401.19] Frank: kind of vaguely straight line that you can actually follow with your mind.
[405.27] Brady: I think we've kind of tried to keep the format to what people already know.
[409.11] Brady: Obviously, there's a bit of tailoring towards women specifically, but why reinvent the wheel?
[415.35] Brady: Everyone knows quad racing one way or another.
[418.75] Brady: So keep the format similar.
[419.75] Brady: You know, it's like you said, you're still doing two minutes.
[423.83] Brady: We're kind of more focused on lap count rather than time and then times by time.
[430.51] Brady: But yeah, to keep it simple, keep it social and everyone has fun.
[435.91] Brady: I don't think anyone's kind of been to one yet and not had fun, despite the crutches and
[441.47] Brady: the cars.
[442.47] Brady: But yeah, you know, we're just trying to keep it simple and the easier it is for everyone
[448.23] Brady: to understand, the easier it is to count the numbers at the end of the day as well.
[452.47] Stubbsy: I think the main difference on the quad racing is obviously with the quads, they start off
[457.15] Stubbsy: on the starter blocks, obviously the timer counts down and then they launch.
[461.91] Stubbsy: The main difference with us is obviously we launched the timer counts down on the last
[465.91] Stubbsy: peak there and you went for the gate.
[468.67] Stubbsy: I know with Valley, the last one in May, we did have a very tight area to fly in.
[474.51] Stubbsy: So the track was very Nazcan.
[477.51] Stubbsy: Come out and coming up now, we've got a lovely big 18-acre site.
[481.99] Stubbsy: So we basically got all the room to play with.
[485.21] Stubbsy: So we're looking to have a much bigger course.
[487.27] Stubbsy: That is the way really we would like to go.
[489.35] Stubbsy: Obviously, we can only go so far with 25 milliwatts.
[492.75] Stubbsy: But that leaves acres of room for us to play with.
[497.43] Stubbsy: But really with the wing racing, we're kind of governed by the sites, to be honest with
[501.03] Stubbsy: you.
[502.03] Stubbsy: Obviously, you haven't got a yaw or a rudder.
[503.75] Stubbsy: So we can't spin around on the spot like a quad.
[506.71] Stubbsy: So that kind of limits what we can do to an extent.
[510.59] Stubbsy: Plus as well, we found with a smaller gate, it's very handy well.
[514.99] Stubbsy: When you're approaching the gate, you really need it facing into wind.
[518.55] Stubbsy: Obviously with a larger purple gate now, we're hoping to kind of come away from that a little
[521.87] Frank: bit.
[522.87] Frank: You've got your big new gate as well, yeah.
[526.27] Stubbsy: We have the gate, which we'll open the roller on the next one.
[532.07] Stephen: With those gates, you've got the start-finish gate, which is like a hoop that you go through.
[535.83] Stephen: And the others are just flag styles.
[537.63] Stephen: But you're up really high.
[538.75] Stephen: So how do you know if someone's cut the corner or actually gone around the gate?
[544.03] Stubbsy: Pretty much from the light feeds and obviously from the spectators.
[547.71] Stubbsy: Obviously, you've got your spectator launch and you and them watching your laps.
[552.27] Stubbsy: But one nice thing obviously, it's up to the spectators if they want to be in goggles
[556.75] Stubbsy: or loss, because obviously they're a lot more visible than like your normal five inch.
[561.71] Stubbsy: But it's down to basically the spectators, what's the word I'm looking for?
[567.47] Stephen: Adjudicating?
[568.47] Stubbsy: Yeah, really.
[569.47] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[570.47] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[571.47] Stubbsy: Obviously reporting it.
[572.47] Stubbsy: Brady has got all the light feeds and everything obviously going over his screen, so he's checking
[576.43] Stubbsy: it as well.
[579.43] Brady: Yeah, it is kind of self-authenticating really.
[585.31] Brady: Like you say, like Matt said, you've got your spotters watching.
[589.63] Brady: I employ now, I've got a nice big whiteboard, so the spotters can wander over and write
[594.59] Brady: down how many laps they counted for each person.
[599.75] Brady: And then obviously I've got that information to tally up at the end of each round.
[606.11] Curry: And it's the tendency still to fire sort of an oval basically, because although it
[610.75] Curry: sounds simple, me and Frank went to one in Popham, like was it a year or two years ago,
[616.15] Curry: Frank?
[617.15] Curry: And although it sounds like a very simple course, it's very watchable because you can
[621.59] Curry: see the entire lap, you can see the wings trying to fight it out in front of each other,
[626.91] Curry: and then you can see the carnage when they try and get through the game, then bounce
[630.47] Curry: off the floor and stuff like that.
[632.51] Curry: Me and Frank were in what we call the danger area, where wings kept bouncing towards us
[637.39] Curry: as they hit the floor, which was brilliant, fun to watch.
[640.43] Curry: The splash zone, yeah.
[641.43] Frank: Might just get you covered in foam.
[643.43] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[644.43] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, obviously.
[645.43] SPEAKER_02: The legal reasons.
[646.43] SPEAKER_02: Splash zone.
[647.43] Stubbsy: For obvious reason, it was Popham, that was the first time we'd ever tried to put a track
[653.35] Stubbsy: up.
[654.35] Stubbsy: We were obviously flying around the outside of the X-Class.
[657.27] Stubbsy: So that was a quick, right, you've got 10 minutes, Matt, see what you can throw up.
[660.79] Stubbsy: So just made a simple oval going around them.
[663.79] Stubbsy: The last video, unfortunately, I said Valley was an oval.
[667.63] Stubbsy: But if you look at, like, when we flew at Agassilian, at Fekinam, we pretty much had
[673.31] Stubbsy: quite a large course in there.
[675.51] Stubbsy: The same is going to be for Camarvon now.
[678.59] Stubbsy: So I'm trying to get away from an oval, but not have it.
[682.71] Stubbsy: Figure a date.
[683.71] Stubbsy: Absolutely try, yeah.
[684.71] Stubbsy: That splash zone is going to move.
[685.71] Stubbsy: All right.
[687.71] Stubbsy: We all have it too complicated.
[688.71] Stubbsy: Hi, Caroline.
[689.71] Stubbsy: Yeah, I know at the moment, they have all been around the similar type of area, but
[700.39] Stubbsy: we are looking, basically, we've got an event I'm hoping in October, if we've had a chapter
[705.99] Stubbsy: on Fekinam, up around by Birmingham.
[709.35] Stubbsy: We'd love to come back to Popham, but basically, it's just the area we're living in at the
[715.83] Stubbsy: moment.
[716.83] Stubbsy: We're basically trying to roll it out, and anybody that will have us, we'd love to travel
[720.71] Stubbsy: further.
[721.71] Frank: I mean, back in May, you were hosted by the Valley Flyers, which is a proper old socks
[727.11] Frank: and sandals, BMFA club.
[729.67] Frank: They brought out their gases and their balsa models, and they're, like, showing off how
[734.35] Frank: hip and down with the kids they were with their foamy's and, you know, the Valley lot.
[740.31] Stubbsy: I've got to be honest, the Valley Club is brilliant.
[743.07] Stubbsy: They're really nice, really down to earth.
[745.19] Stubbsy: I've been in a few BMFA clubs over the years, and they are brilliant.
[749.11] Stubbsy: They're very accepting.
[750.99] Stubbsy: It's a great club.
[751.99] Stubbsy: We've literally, I was a member there years ago, before I delved into FPV.
[756.83] Stubbsy: And basically, I've still, I did a little bit of slope sawing and whatnot with some
[760.67] Stubbsy: of the club members there, and it was the right choice.
[763.87] Stubbsy: They welcomed us back with open arms.
[766.27] Stubbsy: So we've kind of fallen in very well with Allie's, they're a great bunch.
[770.15] Brady: Yeah.
[771.15] Brady: I was quite surprised at how interested they were, because obviously, I think it's that
[775.35] Brady: age-old thing, you've got your FPV, and you've got your old bolter guys, and shown to have
[780.63] Brady: a mix.
[781.63] Brady: It's not normally a pretty situation, but I was really taken aback by it.
[785.67] Brady: And, you know, as Matt was saying, the hospitality was second to none.
[789.55] Brady: They just wanted to help in any way they could, you know, you kind of put this here, or kind
[794.19] Brady: of do that.
[795.19] Brady: Yeah, do what you want.
[796.19] Brady: The site's yours.
[797.19] Brady: Exactly.
[798.23] Brady: We've got team five, Martin, as well, coming up.
[802.03] Brady: So, you know, they've said, the site is yours.
[804.87] Brady: Do what you want.
[805.87] Brady: So it's really nice.
[807.27] Frank: Yeah.
[808.27] Frank: And on the Saturday, they were all getting involved, all cheering as everyone hits into
[813.67] Frank: the big bouncy gate that makes a nice big woof noise every time that happens.
[817.39] Frank: And then on the Sunday, when we had the big mass launch as well, we got them all involved
[821.95] Frank: and they were helping launch a lot of the wings as well.
[825.95] Frank: And they were well up for it, you know, getting involved and having a go.
[830.63] Frank: And it was a, you know, they said themselves like having an event there actually brought
[835.83] Frank: together a lot of club members that wouldn't usually be there on the same day.
[839.59] Frank: You know, usually they have a few people up on the same day here.
[842.99] Frank: They had a big turnout of a lot of their club and they all got to kind of see each other
[847.31] Frank: at the same time for a change.
[849.75] Frank: So I think you guys kind of really showed how kind of an FPV event can work really well
[856.19] Frank: at a BMFA club site, you know, even one that's not really, you wouldn't imagine it to be
[862.43] Frank: the perfect site for wing racing because as you say, it's a fairly restricted area.
[868.47] Frank: And it's, you know, you've got a lot of trees around, it's quite, you know, you've got the
[873.59] Frank: wind kind of coming down and it was a bit of a challenge, but, you know, everyone made
[878.63] Frank: it work and it was all good fun.
[880.39] Brady: Yeah.
[881.39] Brady: And I think it helps to kind of show that we can play within the rules, that we can
[885.95] Brady: all play together.
[886.95] Brady: You know, we're all in the same hobby and, you know, it's really good to kind of just
[891.55] Brady: remind people that it's all expanding, you know, it's not just one area, there's loads
[896.59] Brady: of different avenues.
[897.59] Brady: We're not big bad people that come in, break all the rules and crash and leave.
[903.95] Brady: I think it's just kind of setting the seed for some of the different generations of fliers,
[910.95] Brady: shall we say?
[911.95] Frank: Absolutely.
[912.95] Frank: Yeah.
[913.95] Frank: And they were they were very keenly aware of that as well, like, you know, they've got
[918.95] Frank: to do things that help bring in new blood.
[922.07] Frank: And I think that's sort of hosting an event like that works well for that kind of thing,
[928.55] Brady: especially, you know, there are quite a lot of clubs that are struggling nowadays as well.
[933.15] Brady: All the generations are obviously less, you know, kind of not coming out as much or not
[936.71] Brady: able to make it as often.
[938.11] Brady: So getting people in, like you say, get that new blood in, it's never a bad thing.
[943.55] Frank: Even if it's just raises the awareness amongst the sort of local area of fliers, the club
[950.67] Frank: is fairly open to that kind of thing.
[952.15] Frank: You know, if there was someone like Chris G, you know, who does fly line of sight as
[957.71] Frank: well and just goes along and realizes, oh, this club is actually quite friendly, you
[962.91] Frank: know, then they they could have gained a member that sort of way.
[966.11] Frank: So I think that's the sort of thing that clubs can do well to sort of help support themselves.
[972.95] Frank: And it's something that we can do when we're flying, you know, particularly when we're
[977.43] Frank: organizing events is that's a way we can kind of pitch it to the clubs that have all the
[982.95] Brady: nice.
[983.95] Brady: I'm pretty sure Valleys gained two or three members from that event.
[988.83] Brady: So yeah, it helps out.
[991.11] Stubbsy: It's been pretty well, it's gone across across pretty well, to be honest, Valley were very
[995.71] Stubbsy: acceptable of it.
[997.71] Stubbsy: Absolutely.
[998.71] Stubbsy: Colin and Andrew, they absolutely loved it.
[1002.87] Stubbsy: The same with command and literally they've seen the footage from the two now approached
[1006.39] Stubbsy: by the team, the chairman up there and they're falling over themselves to help us.
[1010.55] Stubbsy: So perfect.
[1011.55] Stubbsy: It's been accepted pretty well, to be honest with you.
[1014.51] Frank: Yeah.
[1015.51] Frank: And we even got the general public joining in because when we're at Valley Flyers, there
[1020.47] Frank: was a there was a few guys that were sitting up on the on the hill just watching the racing.
[1026.23] Frank: People came into the into the field, find out what's going on, because this is all exciting
[1029.95] Frank: and getting involved and, you know, then the club are there and get to kind of speak to
[1035.23] Frank: people that do have a passing interest.
[1037.75] Frank: So, you know, it's a it's a great way of having a kind of good outreach to like local flyers,
[1045.87] Frank: FPV is general public.
[1047.95] Frank: I think it's just it's what needs to happen more.
[1050.83] Frank: Absolutely.
[1051.95] Frank: Yeah, definitely.
[1052.95] Frank: Definitely.
[1055.75] Frank: Yeah. But I mean, so at the moment, a lot of the I mean, there's kind of this spec races.
[1063.35] Frank: Right.
[1064.39] Frank: What's what's what is the spec?
[1066.51] Frank: I mean, at the moment, you're saying it's, you know, you're keeping it fairly open and
[1069.63] Frank: it's it's, you know, allowing a lot more models in that people might already have so that
[1075.83] Frank: we can kind of build up a bit more of a set of events.
[1079.51] Frank: But eventually you kind of want to, I guess, hone it down at least once big enough to support
[1084.63] Frank: a couple of classes, maybe have a real honed spec class.
[1088.91] Frank: Where's the where's the spec come from?
[1090.99] Frank: Because like in my head, I feel like it's come from the US.
[1094.03] Frank: But has it been adapted for the for the UK?
[1098.59] Stubbsy: Don't answer this one, Brady.
[1101.59] Brady: So it's pretty much that, you know, we've kind of followed the US.
[1106.19] Brady: They've they've been like you say, they've been doing it for years and years.
[1108.75] Brady: It works really well.
[1110.27] Brady: But at the same time, we've got to be cautious that the UK doesn't have a race in Lee.
[1115.11] Brady: People don't have specs as much as other wings.
[1119.83] Brady: You know, we've seen when you look at Chris Gee with his striker, that thing is all of
[1124.91] Brady: the me and he's still gluing it together.
[1128.35] Brady: I'll have it next time.
[1131.75] Brady: I've seen things like S800s and just generally.
[1133.91] Brady: I want my name on my nose of it.
[1136.23] Brady: No, Chris Gee is on the display table.
[1141.43] Brady: I think he's on his second striker for racing, at least.
[1143.87] Stubbsy: Oh, he's he's so switched on.
[1146.55] Stubbsy: Literally, it's like if you think a drone racing is like watching Gary Kent flying around
[1151.35] Stubbsy: that course, he's literally millimetre perfect.
[1153.99] Stubbsy: But I'm reeling him in.
[1155.75] Stubbsy: I'll get it.
[1156.39] Stubbsy: I get it.
[1158.19] Stubbsy: I think if we get one of them, one of them, one from the left, one from the right, you
[1164.11] Stubbsy: might have a chance to play it back together by the next race.
[1169.47] Stubbsy: Is this a whole year by the time the beat has gone off, it will be like a new model.
[1173.99] Brady: Yeah, well, that's a bit fun.
[1176.27] Brady: Maybe I think I'm pretty much going to start a hot glue stick donation fund because the hot
[1184.55] Brady: glue gun is just absolutely battered.
[1186.63] Brady: But we try to keep it as kind of inclusive as we can.
[1194.35] Brady: But obviously, as we develop, like you say, as more people get involved, as we can, you
[1197.95] Brady: know, we can support more heats and more rounds with a tighter class.
[1203.55] Brady: Then it also gives us room to have the open spec class where, you know, you've got a bit
[1207.75] Brady: more freedom, people can experiment, they can come up with whatever they want to, you
[1212.43] Brady: know, kind of try out or whatever.
[1214.75] Brady: And then it gives the pure spec races something else to work towards and, you know, a tighter
[1220.51] Brady: target to gain.
[1221.87] Brady: So it's just that balance at the moment.
[1224.23] Brady: And we're just kind of in that middle bit, trying to grow or try and keep some rules.
[1228.55] Brady: So that's why we've kind of limited to 40 inches in the 2200 KV motor just to give a
[1233.03] Brady: bit of a fair playing field as much as we can.
[1237.15] Stubbsy: We've had a bit of everything.
[1238.31] Stubbsy: I haven't had an ago where we had, if you think that went back and pop them two years ago,
[1242.59] Stubbsy: we had that little, you know, goblin having a go.
[1246.71] Stubbsy: We've had a tree, a few houses.
[1250.27] Stubbsy: I think we've all ended up in a tree on that course at some point or other.
[1253.55] Stubbsy: Eve Allen has got a nice assortment of wings he could bring with him.
[1256.51] Stubbsy: Obviously, you've got this tree with a striker.
[1259.75] Stubbsy: So if anything, it's nice to see a couple of different types on because it gives us more
[1264.03] Stubbsy: aspect or maybe it's worth going down narrow or looking at this model or room to grow really.
[1269.15] Frank: Yeah, I hope so.
[1269.79] Frank: I feel like at the at the pop-up event, I feel like there was even a drift at one point
[1274.27] Frank: trying to make its way around the track gradually.
[1277.11] Stubbsy: It was, yeah.
[1277.83] Stubbsy: I think I remember that after that, I think that was Nick.
[1282.87] Stubbsy: I think it was, yeah.
[1283.99] Stubbsy: Yeah, I know we got a drift.
[1285.27] Stubbsy: I'm pretty sure I've seen that I've seen the same one up at Fackenham.
[1288.35] Stubbsy: So it's one of the bodies up there.
[1289.67] Brady: Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Nick.
[1291.51] Stubbsy: Wow.
[1294.51] Frank: But the point there is, you know, anyone that's got anything vaguely fixed wing FPV is worth
[1302.07] Frank: bringing along and having a go.
[1304.23] Frank: It's good fun.
[1304.95] Frank: It's really good fun.
[1305.79] Frank: It's a really good crowd.
[1307.55] Frank: It's low pressure at the moment still, I feel.
[1311.35] Frank: You know, you can get it around the track and everyone will be very supportive and cheer
[1315.47] Frank: you on.
[1315.83] Frank: So that's that's a good kind of vibe.
[1318.83] Brady: Yeah, we want it to be an event and a weekend that you want to go to, not something you're
[1324.07] Brady: stressing about.
[1324.95] Brady: And, you know, you're too worried to have fun because, you know, it's a hobby.
[1330.03] Brady: It's not work.
[1333.15] Stubbsy: One day that big enough course to put the mini-dracks around.
[1337.71] Stubbsy: No spectacles in case we kill them.
[1341.43] Frank: That's that's for the championships, right?
[1343.35] Frank: Like the championship final.
[1345.75] Stubbsy: Oh, yeah.
[1346.83] Stubbsy: Well, just imagine the carnage rates and we've all got them.
[1349.55] Stubbsy: So we'd love we'd love to put a course up with one, but oh, my God, it'd be scary.
[1355.63] SPEAKER_02: Frank, is it true you got some video for us?
[1359.47] Frank: There are some videos we can we can which which one should we go for first?
[1363.31] Frank: Let's show the value one as we've been talking about.
[1366.63] Frank: Let's say what you see, lads.
[1368.87] SPEAKER_02: Say what you see.
[1371.47] Frank: This is the big bouncy gate with all the LEDs around as well.
[1375.35] Frank: So the flying carried on into the evening.
[1379.35] Stubbsy: A nice thing about an inflatable is it makes a hell of a noise, but doesn't do a lot of damage.
[1383.87] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, unless you're Christian, that's a good direction there, lads, of getting that guy up.
[1395.31] Stubbsy: Yeah, the whole thing now.
[1403.62] Stubbsy: And this is my yeah, that'd be me.
[1405.82] Stubbsy: Because as you can see, I've just paused.
[1411.1] Curry: Take the goggles off.
[1412.02] Curry: Take take stock of the situation and carry on.
[1415.98] Frank: I just say one.
[1416.94] Frank: I know I don't know this is a nice one.
[1419.34] Frank: I don't know.
[1421.14] Brady: Yeah, so that's the new gate we've got.
[1423.34] Brady: Yeah, this is a bigger one.
[1425.38] SPEAKER_02: Very bouncy car.
[1427.58] SPEAKER_02: Yeah, what are you going to do now?
[1430.54] Frank: You've got to be bouncy ones.
[1432.54] Frank: Are you going to have like, what are you going to do with the second one?
[1436.14] Frank: Are you going to have like any split timing?
[1440.78] Frank: Is it going to be like a one?
[1445.98] Stubbsy: I'm hoping that Camarvon will have that as an immigrant as an immigrant gate.
[1450.42] Stubbsy: Sorry.
[1451.5] Stubbsy: So literally, oh, everybody knows a split s is basically with a wing.
[1458.22] Stubbsy: It's an upside down split s.
[1459.98] Stubbsy: So you pull vertical, roll over the top and then dive back down.
[1464.1] Stubbsy: So that would be we're hoping we can roll that out as basically an obstacle gate.
[1469.1] Brady: Nice.
[1469.82] Brady: Yeah, and it gives us that flexibility now we can we can move the track around
[1473.42] Brady: or it's a really tight track sort of values.
[1475.5] Brady: We can change what we do with it.
[1477.74] Brady: But it gives us that flexibility.
[1479.9] Brady: We could do split timing at the moment.
[1482.06] Brady: I don't quite think we're there yet.
[1484.94] Brady: But you know, it could even in the future be joker lanes and things,
[1488.26] Brady: you know, pulling in again from quadracing again.
[1490.5] Brady: So there's quite a bit of flexibility there.
[1493.7] Brady: But I'm hoping that it makes a better sound and it's a lot louder than the
[1498.42] Brady: the smaller gate.
[1499.82] Brady: We're going to stick a microphone in it and record it, I think.
[1501.78] Curry: Yes, perfect. Yeah.
[1503.7] Curry: Now, that gate from the point of view of what we've just seen looks enormous.
[1507.74] Curry: But when you're looking at it for the FPV camera,
[1510.3] Curry: does it shrink a bit and look tiny until you actually get to it?
[1513.7] Frank: Yes, it's as you're flying up to it and you're sort of being buffeted around
[1520.14] Frank: by the wind a bit and you've got your control.
[1522.74] Frank: So you're just like, oh, please go through the gate.
[1528.02] Curry: I don't I don't think people, especially perhaps quad pilots, don't realize this.
[1531.78] Curry: If you if you're ever like out flying a wing and you're going through goalposts,
[1536.34] Curry: when when you're going towards it, it looks like this big
[1539.94] Curry: and it's only when you get like really close, it opens up a bit.
[1543.5] Curry: It's it's it's an interesting thing to to try out flying on the gates in a wing.
[1549.58] Curry: Because as you say, the airflow and the buffeting at
[1554.46] Curry: the low altitude does does do things.
[1557.54] Curry: It's very interesting.
[1559.54] Brady: It's a natural kind of reaction is to slow down,
[1562.82] Brady: but the wings fly better at higher speed.
[1565.38] Brady: So you slow down and you get buffered in a lot more.
[1568.86] Brady: You kind of need to just hold out and gun it, really.
[1573.02] Stubbsy: You find a sweet spot and you've got about three quarter throttle
[1575.7] Stubbsy: where you know you can you know you can go at the gate.
[1578.18] Stubbsy: So basically you flat out through the lot of it,
[1581.3] Stubbsy: slow down to three quarter throttle coming up for the gate.
[1584.02] Stubbsy: And then somebody like John will take you and that whole.
[1591.46] Frank: Caroline, in the chat, I can just see that she's just bought a spec wing
[1596.78] Frank: from TBRC. Very, very nice kit indeed.
[1601.94] Frank: Absolutely.
[1603.18] Frank: But, you know, we were talking before the show that there there might be
[1607.78] Frank: a new source of or renewed source of kits in the UK,
[1612.94] Frank: perhaps coming to fruition.
[1615.78] Stubbsy: There's a couple of places, to be honest with you.
[1617.9] Stubbsy: Brady is hoping to be back up and running again soon with crash kits,
[1621.7] Stubbsy: obviously, whether he's been going through a house move, this, that and the other.
[1624.98] Stubbsy: Yes, a couple of house moves.
[1626.26] Brady: Let's slow me down.
[1627.94] Stubbsy: He's going to be back producing as well.
[1630.46] Stubbsy: But we've got another very good spec manufacturer in the UK,
[1633.98] Stubbsy: which is Prototype RC.
[1636.18] Stubbsy: If you have a look on Facebook, and that's run by John Pickles,
[1639.98] Stubbsy: another one of the racers.
[1641.18] Stubbsy: And that's kind of our two at the moment.
[1643.66] Stubbsy: Behind me are Brady's kits, the white and the white and pink one.
[1648.1] Stubbsy: They are both crash kits.
[1650.22] Stubbsy: John is also doing them as well.
[1652.02] Stubbsy: They're all spec wings.
[1653.14] Stubbsy: But like we said, you haven't got to be a spec, you haven't got to have a spec
[1656.38] Stubbsy: with the race as long as it's under 40 inches, 2200 KV motor max.
[1662.1] Stubbsy: And it's on 4cel and it's made out of foam, basically.
[1665.42] Stubbsy: Just bring it along, bring it along and have a go.
[1667.78] Frank: Can I try one of them here?
[1669.62] Brady: Yeah, absolutely.
[1670.98] Stubbsy: Yeah, here we go.
[1673.3] Brady: I think it's quite ironic, I'm the one that cuts them and I haven't got any to show.
[1678.22] Brady: You've got one just behind your head.
[1680.98] Brady: That's a E-Wings Vortigaunt.
[1685.54] Brady: Still needing some Alabans sticking back onto it.
[1690.4] Stubbsy: Mine probably will, because they're all hung off the door by the by the correct tips
[1694.12] Stubbsy: at the moment, so I'm just expecting one at a time drop to the floor.
[1699.56] Frank: Curry, can we get you along to a race at some point?
[1702.28] Curry: Yeah, that was the idea.
[1703.56] Curry: I'm having problems finding time for stuff.
[1706.72] Curry: I'm in the middle of what I call the office reorganisation saga.
[1712.44] Curry: Which is me trying to get rid of some of the stuff I've got.
[1717.8] Curry: If you have a look around what's happening at the moment, I've got bits of wings
[1723.56] Curry: and millenium falcons and quads at the moment, it's really all over the place.
[1730.76] Curry: So I'm trying to get myself sorted.
[1732.2] Curry: I've now just discovered, reading the rules, the wing I intended to use,
[1737.6] Curry: which is kind of like a quad.
[1739.68] Curry: It has carbon fibre plates, is not going to be the one.
[1744.24] Curry: So maybe I've got this old flying wind hornet wing that needs some work.
[1749.12] Curry: And perhaps I can transform it into 4S and 2200.
[1752.08] Curry: It's absolutely my intention to go to one of these things,
[1755.6] Curry: because when me and Frank watched it pop up and we're like, this looks great fun.
[1760.28] Curry: And it's very inclusive, because as you saw, the guy flying like the little nano
[1765.36] Curry: drac, the nano goblet on like 2S was just like laugh at him.
[1774.88] Curry: But yeah, it just looks great fun just to go and try.
[1777.8] Curry: And I particularly what I thought was really fun about it is obviously with
[1783.92] Curry: quad racing, you're starting from a start block and you do it yourself.
[1787.52] Curry: With wing racing, you have to sort of tell your spotter how you launch your wing.
[1792.16] Curry: And that doesn't always go smoothly, as we found.
[1796.36] Curry: It's like do it like that, do it like that.
[1798.36] Curry: It's like there's a lot of dumping into the sides there.
[1802.04] Curry: But yes, is the answer to that.
[1805.12] Curry: I think I need to sort out one of my wings and trying it down.
[1810.16] Curry: Is there anything planned?
[1811.36] Curry: I see the wings over Camarvon is the next thing to come.
[1814.96] Curry: Is there stuff planned in the future in the diary yet coming up?
[1819.92] Stubbsy: Well, we've got obviously wings over Camarvon now.
[1822.88] Stubbsy: I think it's in a fortnight, I think, or just over a fortnight in September.
[1827.32] Stubbsy: Then we're back to Valley with the bigger gate as well.
[1830.88] Stubbsy: I know now I can put up a much larger course using more vertical obstacles.
[1836.12] Stubbsy: So we're back at Valley in September and I'm kind of hoping we're relying on
[1841.36] Stubbsy: John Pickles at the moment to come back with us about maybe fitting in a single
[1845.76] Stubbsy: day in October, obviously that time of year, weather dependent.
[1850.32] Stubbsy: I've been fecking them just outside Bristol.
[1852.76] Stubbsy: Sorry, outside Birmingham for a single day.
[1855.8] Stubbsy: But we're kind of we're waiting to see if that comes through at the moment.
[1862.48] Curry: Yeah, that'd be good.
[1863.6] Curry: It'd be really good to get to one of those things and just to bring along
[1869.16] Curry: even when I crack the rings just to fly around.
[1871.88] Curry: I think would be good fun because I know having watched it,
[1875.12] Curry: if you can just get around the course, you can come at least third.
[1881.04] Curry: See, so many people just bounce off the ground.
[1883.64] Stubbsy: If you can fly around, you're OK.
[1886.88] Stubbsy: That's clearly me. You're watching.
[1888.44] Stubbsy: I just let them all crash and just happily cruise around at the back
[1891.96] Stubbsy: like the like the ice in my head.
[1895.96] SPEAKER_02: James May strategies.
[1898.04] SPEAKER_02: Oh, yes. Oh, yes.
[1899.48] Stubbsy: That thing slow does does the job.
[1902.48] Brady: Yeah, I think whether it's been pretty poor this year for us,
[1907.64] Brady: certainly over here in Wales is just kind of rain for the past few weeks,
[1911.4] Brady: pretty much nonstop.
[1913.24] Brady: So hopefully once we've got this year tidied off,
[1917.6] Brady: start looking already for next year and get some more sites under the radar
[1921.48] Brady: and get some some more dates planned.
[1924.84] Frank: Yeah. So if anyone in the chat knows any local clubs
[1928.04] Frank: that might be open to hosting an event, you know,
[1931.2] Frank: that's the way to get an event to happen locally.
[1934.32] Frank: Convince your local club to host a wing race.
[1937.2] Stubbsy: Definitely. We'd love to come along, like you said, and
[1940.92] Stubbsy: basically get more clubs competing.
[1943.32] Stubbsy: The WRL site, the whole idea is literally like the quad racing.
[1947.96] Stubbsy: If clubs want to take it on board, go ahead.
[1950.24] Stubbsy: We'll add it to the to the point system and basically get get wing racing.
[1956.4] Stubbsy: Get more of it to basically get as much as we can of it.
[1958.8] Brady: Yeah. So like so the website, the idea kind of behind it all was
[1965.2] Brady: a central hub for everything wing racing related.
[1969.52] Brady: And you've got your league on there, you've got your booking system,
[1971.92] Brady: calendar, like everything's there all in one place
[1974.72] Brady: instead of delving off into multiple different platforms.
[1978.08] Brady: But anyone can sign up and they drop me an email.
[1981.04] Brady: They can I can bump them up as an organizer and they can organize
[1983.8] Brady: their own events through the site if they want to adopt the kind of scheme
[1987.56] Brady: and format that we've tried to put together.
[1991.16] Brady: You know, anyone's more than welcome to really.
[1993.12] Stubbsy: Yeah. At the moment, the whole idea would definitely with us around Wales
[1997.16] Stubbsy: is basically have it like the Americans.
[1999.4] Stubbsy: Obviously, we haven't got the head of the Americans got.
[2001.4] Stubbsy: But try and make it make it a big weekend event.
[2004.64] Stubbsy: Basically, for obviously, I know a lot of people are
[2008.28] Stubbsy: coming over here to South Wales.
[2009.6] Stubbsy: It's quite a bit of a travel.
[2011.36] Stubbsy: And obviously down on down where we are, down in command.
[2014.72] Stubbsy: Like we've been trying to make it like a weekend, a weekend event
[2018.36] Stubbsy: and just not only racing, throw a load of fun flying in with it.
[2022.24] Stubbsy: Obviously, the LED track in the evening.
[2024.84] Stubbsy: Just try and make it like a big fun weekend, really.
[2028.64] SPEAKER_02: The bridge is free now.
[2029.96] Brady: So yeah, we don't charge it again.
[2033.16] Brady: All right. And there's generally a barbecue going.
[2035.96] Brady: I'm sure someone has spare beer.
[2037.44] Brady: So I mean, you know, what else do you need?
[2039.8] Brady: There they are.
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[2066.4] Frank: I'm loving that it's kind of got a bit of momentum behind it now.
[2071.56] Frank: Pretty good.
[2072.68] Stubbsy: Yes, it's starting.
[2074.6] Stubbsy: This is getting me. It's ticking over nicely.
[2076.68] Stubbsy: So I'm quite happy. Yes.
[2080.48] Stubbsy: Basically, we weren't sure when we began,
[2083.96] Stubbsy: but we got a nice group there now.
[2085.68] Stubbsy: And literally, it's ticking over.
[2087.52] Stubbsy: It's doing well. So fingers crossed, fingers crossed.
[2091.6] Stubbsy: Really? Yeah.
[2092.68] Frank: And on the FPV side, you've got analog
[2095.8] Frank: and digital cases for, right?
[2099.24] Brady: Yeah. So obviously, analog, no problem anyway.
[2104.0] Brady: HD zero can run alongside analog.
[2106.8] Brady: No problem there. We've had that on a couple of events now.
[2110.76] Brady: We can run a DJI round.
[2115.8] Brady: The caveat being you're going to need a minimum of three pilots
[2120.0] Brady: to put a round together.
[2122.96] Brady: Otherwise, you're just racing yourself.
[2124.88] Brady: And timing is best effort.
[2131.38] Brady: But we have had quite a bit of success
[2133.06] Brady: when I've been testing DJI on the timer.
[2135.02] Brady: So it should be OK, but there's kind of a best effort.
[2139.34] Brady: Asterisk that, you know, it's we'll do what we can.
[2142.34] Brady: Yeah. But I mean, if you've got a spectator, then
[2146.14] Frank: they can count laps and do it.
[2147.78] Brady: Yeah, exactly.
[2149.26] Brady: Yeah, there's ways of still again being included.
[2152.26] SPEAKER_02: We just need to get Stephen off his fear of PWM.
[2159.5] Curry: He's still trying to run surveys on CRSF.
[2163.62] Stephen: I'm happy with my wall of quads.
[2165.7] Stephen: You stick at your wings, guys.
[2167.9] Stephen: I'm just fine here.
[2169.38] Stephen: I haven't got half a field to take off and land without hitting anyone.
[2172.38] Stephen: I'm afraid it's a challenging space.
[2176.18] Brady: Just glue two quads together and take some of the props off.
[2179.06] Stephen: Well, yeah, that was the initial idea.
[2180.46] Stephen: I was going to just stick a foam wing onto a quad and be like,
[2182.98] Stephen: look, it's a wing. The wing is flying.
[2185.66] Stubbsy: Well, there you go. There you go.
[2187.74] Stephen: That'll do it. I mean, this spirit of things now, Stephen.
[2190.54] Stephen: Ignore the fact that the wing can take up vertically,
[2193.02] Stephen: like against the direction of the aerofoil.
[2195.34] Stephen: But, you know, it's still a wing and that the wing is flying.
[2197.86] Brady: We've done that in the past when Matt put his quad through my mini talon.
[2202.26] Stubbsy: Oh, that was fun. That was fun.
[2203.94] Stubbsy: We need another go with that again.
[2208.58] Stephen: I'll get there eventually.
[2209.74] Stephen: It's just, you know, there's a bunch of RC cars, some of which are broken.
[2214.54] Stephen: There's a bunch of quads, some of which are broken.
[2216.82] Stephen: Yeah, the pile of stuff to build is growing, not shrinking.
[2221.18] Frank: So the good thing about a wing is there's not much to break.
[2224.3] Frank: You just glue it back together and it's. Oh, oh, oh, oh, ye of little faith.
[2231.7] Brady: All my beer.
[2232.82] Curry: You just learn about laminating, Stephen.
[2235.58] Curry: As soon as the wings laminate and it just bounces, it doesn't break anymore.
[2239.46] Stephen: All right. So you're telling me that all this this crap here,
[2242.58] Stephen: I need to somehow fit some laminating equipment in here as well.
[2245.66] Frank: Yep.
[2246.7] Frank: It's just my infrontess goes to ninety nine.
[2251.02] Curry: Just get that thing ironed on and it'll be good.
[2254.62] Brady: I have seen people use a normal clothes iron.
[2258.74] Stubbsy: I'll admit to that minus packed in.
[2260.82] Stubbsy: I'm using a normal clothes iron at the moment.
[2262.98] Stubbsy: I'll admit to that one.
[2264.7] Stubbsy: Yeah, it doesn't.
[2265.62] Stubbsy: I'm going to die. Mine went so.
[2267.7] Brady: Some nice 75 micron film, and it's just going nowhere.
[2271.38] SPEAKER_02: I've used my mini little, you know,
[2274.86] SPEAKER_02: laminating iron for wings to iron parts of my shirt.
[2282.34] Stubbsy: That's the way to do it.
[2283.54] Curry: Special color for a wedding.
[2286.46] Curry: And the takeaway from that is I'm so shocked that Jack has ironed any clothes ever.
[2292.06] Stubbsy: Going on there.
[2294.02] Stubbsy: Brady Caroline's asking in the chat,
[2296.94] Stubbsy: can can we use DJI or three, your threes?
[2302.22] Brady: I would have to check to say for definite,
[2306.34] Brady: but I think it shouldn't really be a problem.
[2309.3] Stubbsy: It would just be a simple case.
[2310.7] Stubbsy: They'd have to go in their own round again, wouldn't they?
[2312.86] Stubbsy: I think you actually won't mix with analog or anything.
[2315.9] Brady: Yeah, we've got just as just for the extra safety of people who's in their video.
[2322.14] Brady: But yeah, can't see.
[2324.14] Curry: So is it pretty much the case that the oh, God, now I've forgotten the name of it.
[2329.46] Curry: Walk Snail and DJI do their own thing.
[2331.5] Curry: And the other one, HD0, mixes quite nicely that uses the set channels that analog do.
[2336.94] Curry: Thank you for that, Jack.
[2338.9] Curry: But Walk Snail and DJI have got their own little thing,
[2342.54] Curry: and they sort of drift over analog channels and you can't mix the two very well.
[2348.54] Brady: Yeah, Matt's texting quite a bit of work on them as well.
[2353.62] Brady: But yeah, DJI kind of you've got a signaling channel
[2357.82] Brady: and then the actual video transmission channel.
[2359.62] Brady: So it can be a bit of a nightmare mixing frequencies and the whole dynamic power.
[2366.06] Brady: So if we're doing a DJI heat, then I'll ask all the pilots to turn
[2370.5] Brady: auto attempt control off, which then just kind of sets
[2373.82] Brady: in a rudimentary way, just sets the power at constant power.
[2377.74] Brady: Stick them on 25 milliwatt and hope for the best.
[2379.74] Brady: But yeah, we wouldn't put DJI and analog together, just
[2385.54] Brady: asking for trouble.
[2386.78] Brady: There's already enough carnage hitting that gate.
[2388.98] Stubbsy: We didn't manage to do it, obviously, when Fairplate do him.
[2393.74] Stubbsy: So I can't say enough.
[2395.46] Stubbsy: Cerberus basically helped us out hugely when we first started.
[2399.86] Stubbsy: And we did hold the DJI round through Cerberus up a second.
[2404.5] Stubbsy: It all worked fine.
[2405.78] Stubbsy: But literally, if you're talking Walk Snail DJI,
[2409.1] Stubbsy: they'd have to kind of go in a separate heat with with other pilots
[2413.14] Stubbsy: and similar stuff.
[2414.5] Brady: That's basically all it is to still be grouped point wise, the same.
[2417.58] Brady: But the actual physical flying, we just have to be those guys grouped together.
[2422.58] Stubbsy: Yeah, I got to be honest, apart from racing me, Brady, the majority of us,
[2427.3] Stubbsy: well, she's like DJI and all our standard stuff.
[2431.1] Stubbsy: We just literally a lot of us have come from a quad background
[2434.5] Stubbsy: or we got a load of analog stuff, you know, pop them in the race
[2437.5] Stubbsy: swings and keep it at that because they're getting knocked about a general
[2440.82] Stubbsy: fly. Most of us fly DJI in the front.
[2443.62] Stubbsy: Fun fly in between the races.
[2445.7] Stubbsy: We're up with DJI anyway, normally flying.
[2448.18] Stubbsy: So which channel all of them?
[2451.02] Stubbsy: Pretty much.
[2453.18] Stubbsy: 12 or 15 or what after it.
[2455.7] Frank: Oh, yeah. And, you know, if people are a bit far away and can't make it along,
[2461.7] Frank: you do it.
[2462.7] Frank: I mean, you have an enormous pile of good looking toys
[2466.62] Frank: that do a load of streaming.
[2468.06] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[2468.86] Stubbsy: Apartment, it looks like D'Arthoger's Closet.
[2472.46] Stubbsy: It looks impressive.
[2474.3] Brady: It probably helps that it's kind of my background.
[2477.5] Brady: So years ago, I've worked in TV and radio and currently
[2483.54] Brady: IT infrastructure, so it helps that.
[2485.02] Brady: But yeah, we so stream kind of the same as I think most of the race events
[2490.62] Brady: nowadays, straight up to YouTube.
[2493.5] Brady: Yeah, live over either 4G or Starlink, whichever I need at the time.
[2500.58] Brady: The setup has expanded slightly over the past couple of months.
[2504.42] Frank: Even further. That's exciting.
[2506.14] Frank: Yeah, I mean, I was very impressed.
[2508.14] Frank: Your instant replay system was perfect.
[2512.1] Brady: That took so much to get set up.
[2514.7] Brady: I wanted it just on the button, but I wanted to have it individual.
[2518.22] Brady: So it saves them all at the same time, but you don't have to play them all
[2522.18] Brady: back at the scene, you know, you can play pilot by pilot.
[2524.7] Brady: Very, very nice.
[2525.7] Brady: And it took a lot.
[2528.22] Stubbsy: On our pilot messenger group, he's constantly synchronating with it.
[2533.22] Stubbsy: Every night, it's, oh, look, lads, what I've done now.
[2535.46] Stubbsy: Oh, look, lads, what I've done now.
[2537.06] Stubbsy: So he is constantly tinkering with it then.
[2540.38] Stubbsy: He's the same with bleeding eye, nav, autopilot.
[2543.14] Stubbsy: If it goes right, he's like, oh, no, I want to do it better.
[2546.14] Stubbsy: And he's the same with comfortable.
[2547.54] Stubbsy: Typical tech.
[2548.82] Brady: I turn up in my living room at home and my partner's like, who are you?
[2551.86] Brady: I've not seen you for days.
[2554.14] Brady: Tied away in my Kermit house.
[2556.18] Frank: Is that that really why you've had the move going on for so long?
[2559.22] Frank: It's just quite convenient to have an entire separate house that's now become
[2562.94] Frank: your your workshop.
[2565.06] Frank: She may well be watching.
[2566.22] Frank: So no, that's definitely not what's happened.
[2572.42] Brady: Yeah, I'm moving into a workshop now so that I'll make life a bit easier.
[2577.46] Brady: So having three kids around the house and trying to run a load of cables
[2581.98] Brady: along and have cameras here, there and everywhere and TVs for testing.
[2585.02] Brady: Yeah, it doesn't work very well.
[2586.1] Brady: So, but yeah, expanding.
[2589.46] Brady: And I've got a nice little idea for events
[2592.9] Brady: so people can see the stream on their own devices as well without having to use
[2597.14] Brady: 4G because that's obviously quite a quite a problem on some of the sites
[2600.9] Brady: and some of the bigger events and got no data.
[2603.54] Brady: So that's a plan coming along.
[2605.7] Brady: We've got to do a bit of testing and yeah, probably add a few more cameras
[2609.86] Brady: around the site and around the track.
[2612.98] Brady: Very nice.
[2614.94] Brady: But everything, everything that the stream, the YouTube,
[2617.3] Brady: everything can be accessed by the website.
[2619.82] Brady: It's all there. So, you know, you don't have to go hunting for it.
[2623.62] Brady: So that's kind of the idea to make it easy for people.
[2627.3] Stubbsy: What did this come out of then, Brady?
[2630.26] Brady: Eighteenth to the 20th.
[2631.58] Stubbsy: So that's our next one. Eighteenth to the 20th.
[2634.18] Stubbsy: You should know you booked it.
[2636.14] Stubbsy: I know. Tell me about it. You know what I'd like to meet.
[2638.1] Stubbsy: I just thought, I'll go on the phone and check now before I bring it up.
[2640.9] Stubbsy: I thought, no, I'll just put Brady in the hot seat.
[2645.46] Stubbsy: Oh, at least I hope that's when it is.
[2647.22] Stubbsy: Yeah, very true dementia. Yeah, definitely.
[2650.94] Brady: Yeah, we've got 18th to 20th is command then.
[2655.22] Brady: So the Friday is kind of set up.
[2657.1] Brady: Get there, set your tent up, have some beer, have some steak on a barbecue or whatever.
[2662.34] Brady: Yeah, a little kill and fly possibly.
[2664.06] Brady: And then the 23rd to the 24th of September is Valleys again.
[2670.78] Stubbsy: Yeah, going to make a little bit of a little bit of a bigger track this time
[2674.42] Stubbsy: with more legs running back and forth because I'm fed up on NASCAR courses.
[2679.02] Frank: And the one in September is with X-Class as well, right?
[2683.14] Frank: It is. I'm hoping.
[2684.46] Stubbsy: If Clive and the lads want to come along, we'd love to have them again.
[2688.82] Stubbsy: They're a cracking bunch of lads.
[2690.18] Stubbsy: And unfortunately, I was very silly watching Tom start
[2693.3] Stubbsy: and went out and bought one of my own.
[2694.94] Stubbsy: I won't go into that, but I'm hoping to bring it on.
[2698.58] Stubbsy: Ooh, that sounds expensive.
[2702.82] Stubbsy: Very expensive so far.
[2705.02] Stubbsy: Everything's 50 quid, don't forget.
[2707.66] Stubbsy: That's indeed. Yes, yes, yes, it is.
[2710.58] Brady: Yeah, but yeah, the September one's BYOFE event.
[2715.1] Brady: Bring your own fire extinguisher.
[2716.86] Brady: Right.
[2720.3] Brady: Yeah, absolutely needed with X-Class.
[2723.62] Frank: There's definitely been a few a few X-Class being built
[2727.94] Frank: and mavens that I've seen around.
[2730.66] Frank: So it would be good to see how many of them make their way out
[2734.26] Frank: that we're working up to the Valley fires like in September.
[2738.74] Brady: Yeah, I love watching them.
[2741.18] Brady: I haven't quite got the kahunas to go out.
[2746.3] Brady: Yeah, look at it.
[2746.9] Brady: I think I want I want.
[2748.58] Brady: But yeah, and then I see Matt trying to cover his
[2752.82] Brady: and he's shaking because, yeah, no, I'll leave that.
[2756.22] Stubbsy: I'll just watch it all goes lovely.
[2759.62] Stubbsy: I had it flying beautifully last time.
[2761.86] Stubbsy: The tune for once, God knows how I just put it on the pot
[2764.98] Stubbsy: like was working and then I lost video and that was it.
[2768.46] Stubbsy: So I did it again now and it's sitting back in the shed
[2772.38] Stubbsy: and I might take it out at some point.
[2776.38] Frank: Yeah, there's a lot of weight with them
[2779.1] Frank: and they're at the end of some quite long arms.
[2781.62] Frank: And yes, the combination of all of that
[2784.42] Frank: can result in quite a bit of damage quite quickly.
[2787.9] Stubbsy: The leverage along from literally tapping an arm
[2790.74] Stubbsy: on every time you tap an arm, it's not only obviously you bend in the arm,
[2794.3] Stubbsy: it's the top and bottom plates, cracking top and bottom plates.
[2797.94] Curry: Exquads are great to learn about what kinetic energy means.
[2802.46] Curry: When they go down, it's like, oh, that's where all the energy goes in.
[2806.1] Curry: They're like, bloop, making it break.
[2809.58] Stubbsy: Exactly doesn't work so well on an X-Class unfortunately.
[2812.86] Brady: That was so good.
[2814.06] Brady: Nice EV jigsaw puzzle.
[2815.98] Brady: Yes, but I don't think it's really a good thing to do with an X-Class.
[2823.18] Brady: There's far less number of blades.
[2826.1] Stubbsy: Yeah, yeah, but they're a lot bigger and they'll chop you in half, but yeah.
[2829.46] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[2831.54] Stubbsy: Clive, you're very true, it's just the way I fly, mate.
[2833.86] Stubbsy: I haven't got a clue.
[2834.86] Frank: I know you've already answered in the chat,
[2838.3] Frank: but Matt Stevenson in the chat asked,
[2841.54] Frank: in the one in August, can we just pop down for the day to spectate?
[2845.42] Frank: Absolutely.
[2846.66] Frank: There we go.
[2847.86] Stubbsy: It's a little bit tight for parking,
[2849.9] Stubbsy: but literally, definitely pop on down, pop on down and have a nose, have a nose.
[2855.46] Stubbsy: There's obviously the club is going to be there as well, I'm hoping,
[2857.98] Stubbsy: come at them, so in the fun fly between,
[2861.98] Stubbsy: they'll be flying all their bolts and stuff.
[2864.7] Stubbsy: So pretty much, yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely pop on there.
[2868.62] Frank: And of course, it will be strange, right?
[2870.74] Frank: So people don't watch on YouTube at WRLUK.
[2877.14] Brady: WRL-UK.com.
[2879.14] Curry: There we go.
[2880.46] Curry: And Frank, you're on the leaderboard now, so you're going to continue.
[2884.14] Curry: I'm going to try and propel your position.
[2889.18] Frank: Yeah, that's the attendance trophy.
[2893.94] Frank: That's what I'm looking for.
[2895.66] Stubbsy: Oh, you're looking at more than that.
[2897.14] Stubbsy: You're looking at more than that, Frank.
[2898.9] Stubbsy: You're doing pretty well up there.
[2901.34] Stubbsy: Don't worry.
[2902.78] Frank: Do I get an attendance trophy, Matt?
[2905.1] Stubbsy: No, no.
[2906.38] Stubbsy: No, it's nice.
[2909.82] Brady: I've seen Lazy cut myself one.
[2911.7] Stephen: Only a spoon-related prize is available.
[2915.42] Stubbsy: We'll also be giving out some nice, lovely little prizes,
[2918.3] Stubbsy: courtesy of South Wales Drones over the stream as well.
[2921.3] Stubbsy: If you can't make it, it's definitely worth
[2924.1] Stubbsy: keeping an eye on the stream, because there will be various competitions
[2927.78] Stubbsy: over the weekend.
[2930.26] SPEAKER_02: I joined in.
[2931.74] SPEAKER_02: I was cheering for my boy Frank and Chris G.
[2936.82] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[2938.78] SPEAKER_02: I know you're not very happy at that stuff, Sue.
[2941.3] Frank: Speaking of Chris G and laser cutting trophies,
[2946.58] Frank: I'm being commissioned to laser cut some trophies at the moment for an event.
[2952.58] Frank: I think it's Tiny Whooping at Pop'em.
[2956.1] Frank: I could go wrong, but I think at the Pop'em Air Show,
[2961.62] Frank: which is at some point in the future, I can't remember when
[2966.18] Frank: there's going to be some Tiny Whoop racing,
[2968.14] Frank: and I think there's trophies and prizes and sponsorship and things.
[2973.62] Frank: The second and third of September.
[2976.1] Frank: There we go.
[2977.3] Stubbsy: Fair play to the Tiny Whoop boys now.
[2979.22] Stubbsy: They put on a hell of a show, a hell of a show.
[2981.3] Stubbsy: We were dabbling in it a couple of years ago,
[2983.34] Stubbsy: but Matthew and the boys...
[2985.54] Stubbsy: It's a flight rate.
[2987.3] Stubbsy: Oh, it's brilliant. It's awesome. Absolutely brilliant.
[2990.9] Stephen: Any comedy prizes available for newcomers
[2993.3] Stephen: who might not be looking at podium spots?
[2997.02] Frank: You'd be surprised.
[2998.06] Frank: That's the only thing to say.
[3001.22] Curry: Like I said, if you can get it around the course, you're not.
[3004.1] Brady: You're having a chance.
[3006.9] Brady: I have started putting some
[3009.06] Brady: some sound bites together for certain incidents, shall we say.
[3015.66] Brady: So I think that's going to be quite useful.
[3018.58] Curry: Ouch. That will need some glue and tape for sure.
[3026.1] Stubbsy: Our thing.
[3027.62] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[3028.66] Stubbsy: Did you do the one from World of Warcraft after Brady?
[3033.94] Stubbsy: You've got to get out of it.
[3035.7] Stubbsy: We should've made that.
[3037.38] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[3038.38] SPEAKER_02: We should've made it.
[3039.38] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[3040.38] Stubbsy: We should've made it.
[3041.38] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[3042.38] Brady: Yeah.
[3043.38] UNKNOWN: I can't find it.
[3044.38] Brady: I have got it.
[3045.38] Brady: Good, good.
[3046.38] Brady: A little spots of my gaffer tape or something.
[3049.38] Stephen: Yeah.
[3050.38] Curry: Hey, buddy, you dropped half of your wing.
[3054.38] Curry: Yeah.
[3055.38] Brady: So I've got a few sound bites together for certain things,
[3060.73] Brady: especially crashes.
[3061.73] Brady: Very nice.
[3062.73] Brady: Very nice.
[3063.73] Brady: I think we need to start introducing best crash
[3067.73] Brady: and a few other comedy awards.
[3070.73] Brady: Oh, yeah.
[3071.73] Stubbsy: Definitely.
[3072.73] Stubbsy: Most impressive would be my only chance of winning something.
[3075.73] Stubbsy: So I'm well up for that.
[3076.73] Stubbsy: Definitely.
[3077.73] Brady: But the problem would be, I think we'd run out of best crash
[3079.73] Brady: trophies.
[3081.73] Stephen: Well, it'd be a busy category for sure.
[3083.73] Stephen: The sound of it.
[3084.73] Stephen: People were slamming into that gate at a rate of knots.
[3087.73] Brady: Yeah.
[3088.73] Brady: There have been quite a few suggestions to stick a microphone
[3090.73] Brady: under it and get it as a same clip.
[3092.73] Brady: Well, I think Frank had that.
[3095.73] Stephen: He played a video with a definite whomp on it on the last
[3098.73] Brady: show.
[3099.73] Brady: Doesn't matter what you're doing at the event, like you're
[3102.73] Brady: gluing your wings back together or if you're on the on the
[3105.73] Brady: portable toilet or anything, you hear that noise.
[3107.73] Brady: You instantly know what it is and you just kind of looking
[3109.73] Brady: around for the carnage.
[3113.73] Frank: It's impressive how many people can bounce off of it and then
[3116.73] Frank: continue flying.
[3118.73] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[3119.73] Stubbsy: Yeah.
[3121.73] Frank: That's a whole other skill to add in to the strategy of the
[3127.01] Frank: game.
[3128.01] Brady: You have like that.
[3130.01] Brady: You hear the noise and then you have sort of two or three
[3132.01] Brady: seconds just eagerly watching.
[3133.01] Brady: Is it going to fly?
[3134.01] Brady: And if it flies, which direction is it going?
[3137.01] Brady: Is it coming towards me?
[3140.01] Brady: Yeah, luckily there is netting available to catch them.
[3144.01] Brady: And that has been quite heavily used in the past.
[3148.01] Stubbsy: It was used well at Poppin.
[3151.01] Stubbsy: For some reason, I'm reminded of the Mitchell and Web show
[3154.01] Stephen: where they commentate, I think darts and would go, that's a
[3158.01] Stephen: bad mess when someone stabbed a member of the audience or
[3162.01] Stephen: something.
[3167.01] UNKNOWN: I think we're in racing.
[3168.01] Curry: It seems to be the case of you can fly quite high around the
[3171.01] Curry: markers and then suddenly, oh, we need to die if you get
[3174.01] Curry: under the gate.
[3175.01] Curry: And it's like, no, it's not.
[3177.01] Curry: You have to die if you get under the gate.
[3179.01] Curry: And it's like most people are either hitting the floor or
[3182.01] Curry: hitting the side of the gate or something or trying to just
[3185.01] Curry: go so close to getting under the gate, they're hitting the
[3188.01] Curry: top of it and stuff.
[3189.01] Curry: It's this last minute.
[3190.01] Curry: I'm up high.
[3191.01] Curry: I've got to die.
[3192.01] Stubbsy: Yeah, I will hold my hands up there as well.
[3195.01] Stubbsy: I've done that.
[3196.01] Stubbsy: I've done that plenty of times.
[3198.01] Frank: But with the second gate, though, that's going to change
[3201.01] Frank: that, I feel.
[3202.01] Curry: Yeah, you have to stay low all the way, really, don't you?
[3205.01] Curry: And that's that's interesting because you can get hypnotized
[3208.01] Curry: just like if you catch sight of your shadow, it's like, well,
[3211.01] Curry: that's nice.
[3212.01] Curry: I'm going to follow that for a while.
[3213.01] Curry: And then just to hit the grass on your own without doing
[3216.01] Curry: anything.
[3217.01] Curry: It's not reflection anymore, aren't it?
[3219.01] Curry: Yeah, it's just undazzled.
[3220.01] Curry: Undazzled by my own shadow.
[3222.01] Curry: This is so interesting.
[3223.01] Curry: Let me follow it.
[3224.01] Curry: Smack.
[3226.01] Brady: As it kind of develops as well, the rules of worry just so
[3230.01] Brady: that you kind of have to be around the top of the flags and
[3234.01] Brady: not in stratosphere.
[3236.01] Brady: But obviously, at the moment, we're still quite new.
[3239.01] Stubbsy: So it's quite flexible.
[3240.01] Stubbsy: But as as for following shadows, it always sticks in my mind.
[3244.01] Stubbsy: We'd a fly ahead like now and again with a team worry sheet
[3246.01] Stubbsy: boys over here.
[3247.01] Stubbsy: And you got Steve Rhodes.
[3249.01] Stubbsy: When he first went over to DJI, he literally was flying
[3252.01] Stubbsy: outside of the hill, absolutely loving it.
[3255.01] Stubbsy: Real safe disappeared.
[3257.01] Stubbsy: And then it was what happened then, Steve.
[3259.01] Stubbsy: I was loving it that much.
[3260.01] Stubbsy: I could see every blade of grass and I didn't want to stop.
[3264.01] Stubbsy: He does compete with his range and disappeared over the top
[3267.01] Stubbsy: of the hill.
[3268.01] Stubbsy: Yeah, a lot of that.
[3273.01] SPEAKER_02: And I saw on that video, there was a wing launcher.
[3277.01] SPEAKER_02: I thought it was human launchers mainly.
[3282.01] Stubbsy: Yeah, we can test in various ways to be honest with you.
[3286.01] Stubbsy: I prefer to be for my spot to launch me.
[3289.01] Stubbsy: I tried out.
[3291.01] Stubbsy: You'd love a good old toss, do you?
[3293.01] Stubbsy: Oh, yeah.
[3295.01] Stubbsy: I've tried off the ramps and basically I just end up shredding
[3299.01] Stubbsy: them.
[3300.01] Stubbsy: But some of the boys with the ramps.
[3302.01] Curry: Unless you need Tony to wing, it's kind of like the most
[3307.01] Curry: limp-wristed thing I've seen where he sort of goes,
[3310.01] Curry: huh, and they just pull that out again and go onto the ground.
[3315.01] Curry: That's not pretty.
[3319.01] Curry: Yeah, we've...
[3321.01] Brady: Over the edge.
[3322.01] Brady: We've had a couple of different designs of ground
[3325.01] Brady: launching system put together.
[3328.01] Brady: I know Pickles prefers KO FPV.
[3330.01] Brady: He prefers his off the launcher.
[3332.01] Brady: So that's probably one of the ones you've seen in the photos.
[3335.01] Brady: He just had some PVC pipe up in it, a bit like a bungee launcher
[3338.01] Brady: pretty much just without the bungee.
[3340.01] Brady: No, it's called shooting.
[3343.01] Brady: I prefer the launching ramp myself as well because I can get
[3350.01] Brady: a nice consistent launch each time.
[3352.01] Brady: But then again, I can't really fly.
[3354.01] Brady: So it doesn't really make much difference.
[3357.01] Stephen: I was almost slightly disappointed to hear that the race
[3360.01] Stephen: only started once everyone was safely in the air at a sensible
[3363.01] Stephen: height.
[3364.01] Stephen: But when I first heard about it, I'd assumed that it was just
[3367.01] Stephen: this crazy sort of flurry of activity on the ground with
[3370.01] Stephen: people screaming and shouting and throttling up and hurling
[3373.01] Stephen: things into the air to run and crack their radios.
[3376.01] Stubbsy: No, there's still plenty of that.
[3378.01] Stubbsy: There's still plenty of that.
[3379.01] Stubbsy: You just don't...
[3380.01] Stubbsy: You don't see all that on the video.
[3381.01] Stubbsy: That's all it is.
[3382.01] Frank: The thing is, you get that, but you also get the benefit of
[3385.01] Frank: like this cloud of wings all trying to judge when the beeps
[3389.01] Frank: are going to...
[3390.01] Frank: When the starting beep is going to happen and just sort of
[3393.01] Frank: aiming for each other and the gate at the same time and trying
[3396.01] Frank: to get that last sort of split second.
[3399.01] Frank: So they cross the line just after the beep happens.
[3402.01] Frank: So it's going to be people just full throttle like the
[3405.01] Stephen: instant it goes off.
[3407.01] Frank: Yeah.
[3408.01] Brady: There are a few that get there like half a second before the
[3411.01] Brady: last beep.
[3412.01] Brady: And if your race director is really, really naughty, they'll
[3415.01] Brady: kind of have a random time between the other four beeps
[3420.01] Brady: and the last one.
[3421.01] Brady: I can't possibly say that I would do this.
[3425.01] Brady: If that's what you think.
[3427.01] UNKNOWN: Beep.
[3428.01] UNKNOWN: Beep.
[3429.01] Brady: Yeah.
[3430.01] Brady: Boop.
[3431.01] Brady: Yeah.
[3432.01] Brady: Exactly.
[3433.01] Brady: But then, obviously, they're then counting that.
[3435.01] Brady: Oh, it'll be three seconds next time.
[3437.01] Stubbsy: No.
[3438.01] Brady: It's random.
[3440.01] Brady: Wow.
[3441.01] Stubbsy: That's a whole other level.
[3443.01] Stubbsy: Yes.
[3446.01] SPEAKER_02: Goldfish.
[3447.01] SPEAKER_02: Little goldfish tank.
[3449.01] SPEAKER_02: And it's not to the...
[3450.01] Brady: I'm pretty sure we did have some on launch.
[3453.01] Brady: I'm pretty sure we had some on launch a wing before the
[3456.01] Brady: actual pilot was even like sat down and ready.
[3459.01] Brady: Ready.
[3460.01] Brady: What did that look like?
[3461.01] Brady: Just a wing.
[3463.01] Brady: Pretty much just, yeah, straight down.
[3467.01] Brady: Yeah.
[3468.01] Brady: I'm positive it was at Valleys.
[3471.01] Brady: Someone got launched.
[3472.01] Brady: It might have been...
[3473.01] Brady: I'm not sure when it was, but I think it was Valleys.
[3475.01] Brady: Somebody got launched.
[3476.01] Brady: And, yeah, they weren't even in that.
[3478.01] Brady: You know, they weren't ready.
[3479.01] Brady: Goggles weren't on.
[3480.01] Brady: Radio wasn't in the hands.
[3483.01] SPEAKER_02: That's a frisbee.
[3485.01] SPEAKER_02: Paul Frank has to check with Chris G
[3489.01] SPEAKER_02: whether his camera is even working.
[3492.01] Frank: Oh, my God.
[3493.01] Frank: Chris...
[3494.01] Frank: Well, my problem with launching Chris G's wing
[3497.01] Frank: was half the time.
[3499.01] Frank: What is manual cover?
[3500.01] Frank: The dude hasn't quite set yet.
[3501.01] Frank: Yeah, it's just going to set your hand stuck to it.
[3503.01] Frank: You can't throw it, can you?
[3505.01] Stephen: It's like one of Jack's songs.
[3506.01] Stephen: A discus launch just spinning around in circles.
[3508.01] Frank: I'm going to shake the wing off.
[3510.01] Frank: The bigger problem was, the bit I hold,
[3512.01] Frank: is this going to be enough attached?
[3514.01] Frank: There was definitely one occasion
[3516.01] Frank: where, as I was launching it,
[3519.01] Frank: and then he throttles up full throttle
[3522.01] Frank: and it moved the entire wing
[3524.01] Frank: separate from the bit I was holding,
[3526.01] Frank: and it was just sort of,
[3528.01] Frank: ah, no, what do I do?
[3530.01] Frank: That was the occasion where I ended up
[3532.01] Frank: spinning around and doing a full 360
[3534.01] Frank: before letting go because I wasn't entirely sure,
[3537.01] Frank: because it was now pointing at me,
[3538.01] Frank: and so I didn't want to let go.
[3539.01] Frank: But he didn't trouble down, so I was just like,
[3541.01] Frank: I'm just going to keep going with it, I guess,
[3543.01] Frank: and duck out the way and let it go.
[3545.01] Brady: He throttles up and you're still holding half a wing
[3547.01] Brady: and the rest of it's flying over there.
[3549.01] Brady: Exactly, exactly.
[3550.01] Frank: Yeah, I can just imagine.
[3551.01] Stephen: The glue is still wet.
[3552.01] Stephen: The glue is still wet.
[3553.01] Stephen: It's sort of grumbling, sort of, it'll be fine.
[3554.01] Stephen: What are you doing?
[3555.01] Stephen: Get out of the way.
[3559.01] Frank: Yeah, it's definitely entertaining.
[3561.01] Frank: It's a good day out.
[3563.01] Frank: I would highly recommend it.
[3565.01] Brady: Yeah, definitely advisable to bring your glue gun.
[3569.01] UNKNOWN: Yep, definitely.
[3570.01] Brady: I generally have one available, but, you know,
[3572.01] Brady: it's used that often when you can get access to it.
[3575.01] Stephen: Some of that fancy, unterrable packing tape.
[3578.01] Frank: Yes, I have the fiber-reinforced tape along my leaning edge,
[3582.01] Frank: which you can't see because it's white on white.
[3584.01] Frank: Where's the orange bit?
[3586.01] Frank: Yeah.
[3587.01] Frank: Where's the camera?
[3588.01] Stephen: That was the first purchase I was advised to get.
[3591.01] Stephen: Oh, you're getting something wing related.
[3593.01] Stephen: You're going to need this tape.
[3595.01] Stephen: This tape must go on the front bits.
[3598.01] Stubbsy: If anybody wants to follow the win racing,
[3601.01] Stubbsy: it's obviously our Facebook group is FPV Win Racing League UK.
[3607.01] Stubbsy: And Brady's site is www.wrl-uk.com.
[3616.01] Stubbsy: Here we go.
[3617.01] Stubbsy: There we go.
[3618.01] Stubbsy: Sorry to get in touch.
[3620.01] Stephen: So that was www.wrl-uk.com.
[3624.01] SPEAKER_02: That's the one.
[3627.01] SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
[3628.01] SPEAKER_02: It's been a real pleasure having you on.
[3630.01] SPEAKER_02: But unfortunately, it's all we've got time for.
[3635.01] SPEAKER_02: You've been listening to the Win Racing League guys having a chat.
[3640.01] SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Frank, for bringing them on.
[3642.01] SPEAKER_02: The show is supported by our lovely Patreons.
[3647.01] SPEAKER_02: We've got multiple executive tiers available.
[3651.01] SPEAKER_02: So if you can support the show, it helps keep us going.
[3655.01] SPEAKER_02: Cuts all the sweary bits out.
[3657.01] Stephen: Absolutely.
[3658.01] Stephen: We're trying to line up some more guests,
[3660.01] Stephen: but we'd really appreciate anyone who's able to go in
[3663.01] Stephen: and help the Patreon by paying for the site, the streaming, the editor,
[3668.01] Stephen: and all these kind of behind the scenes costs that help us continue on.
[3672.01] Stephen: So thanks very much.
[3673.01] Stephen: If you find it interesting, that's the way you can keep the show going.
[3676.01] Stephen: Thank you.
[3677.01] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[3678.01] SPEAKER_02: And it enables us to stay in partial
[3682.01] SPEAKER_02: and bring you guests on episodes like this.
[3685.01] SPEAKER_02: You've been joined by...
[3686.01] SPEAKER_02: Matt just advertising.
[3687.01] Stephen: No razors.
[3688.01] Stephen: Just content.
[3689.01] Stephen: Yeah.
[3690.01] SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
[3691.01] SPEAKER_02: No.
[3692.01] Stubbsy: Well, I just want to say, gentlemen,
[3693.01] Stubbsy: thank you so much for having us on, definitely.
[3696.01] SPEAKER_02: It's a pleasure.
[3698.01] SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
[3699.01] SPEAKER_02: You've been joined by our Lord and Master, our Saviour, Frank.
[3704.01] Frank: Bye.
[3705.01] SPEAKER_02: One of the WRL people themselves, Stavzy.
[3712.32] SPEAKER_02: Everyone's favourite curry kitten.
[3714.32] SPEAKER_02: Goodbye.
[3716.32] SPEAKER_02: The engineer that keeps it all running by the sounds of it,
[3720.32] SPEAKER_02: Brady, or Boy, or FPV.
[3723.32] SPEAKER_02: Goodbye.
[3725.32] SPEAKER_02: And everyone's lovable moustache and dog-botherer, Stephen.
[3731.32] Stephen: Thank you.
[3732.32] Stephen: Cheers and good night.
[3734.32] SPEAKER_02: And I'll be bright until I fly.
[3735.32] SPEAKER_02: Thank you.
[3736.32] SPEAKER_02: Good night.
[3737.32] SPEAKER_02: LDO out.
[3739.32] SPEAKER_02: Sponsored by Sticky Jack's Glue Emporium.
[3741.32] Frank: Telemetry lost.