=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 418 === Title: LDO 418 - Bin lucky when finding stuff Recorded: 2023-08-31 Hosts: Stephen "Belrik" Howell, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Koel "Koala" Anderson, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): (none recorded) Total audience: 1,062 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlsMSgkwh_8); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1606492194-letsdroneout-ldo-418-bin-lucky-when-finding-stuff.mp3) ===================================== [0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to what drone out and special thank you to our lovely patrons that help donate [7.48] Jack: So that we could pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things. We say [12.56] Jack: Massive. Thank you to call us campus art folk now Sam Darma on with the show [52.02] Jack: Welcome back you're listening to less throw now today's [56.1] Jack: Thursday the 31st and the 8th [60.34] Jack: 2023 if you're American they'll Canadian Canadian, I think is I said it backwards and [69.1] Jack: Tonight you are joined by everyone's favorite curry kitten. Hello. My buddy Carl [76.42] Jack: And [77.42] Jack: The ball mustached bandit Stephen. Hey, hello Cole. Good to have you on the show again [85.14] Koel: Thank you. That's you bad. You're hippie [90.14] Koel: Longer that's how I know what I'm doing right now is I'm doing a lot of [95.46] Koel: Work in the gym and until I'm like in really good shape. I'm not cutting my hair [100.02] Koel: That's my plan [102.02] Stephen: It sounded like a Samson workout plan [106.3] Koel: It's like well, I don't exactly know what that means, but I have a personal trainer right now who's a monster and [113.78] Koel: He's basically [115.38] Koel: Samson I guess as the biblical dude his strength was linked to oh, oh, yes. Yes precisely except I guess [123.34] Koel: The guy that I'm training with has no hair [128.22] Jack: I'm right until I fly [130.26] Jack: if it totally feels that [132.9] Jack: Summer has finally finished [136.02] Jack: And a reminder I got poked in the ribs by Frank that there is a week or so left [142.82] Jack: to get your responses in about the [148.26] Jack: About the CIA feedback regarding the new [154.18] Jack: Identity remote UK your ID on that's in episode [159.3] Jack: 415 so if you haven't listened to that, please go back and listen to it and [166.02] Jack: I think the BMFA have finally released a statement on it. I'm not too sure [171.5] Jack: But we're still waiting on [174.14] Jack: FPV UK Simon [176.7] Stephen: What's everyone done on is everyone willing to discuss what they put? I? [182.18] Stephen: Haven't done it [184.46] Koel: Great. I am not [187.02] Stephen: Is not affected explicitly unaware up in Canada where you can fly for days without hitting anything but an occasion on this [194.18] Stephen: I don't know [196.18] Jack: He's got to put out code and somewhere like a you know and identify himself by wearing a [203.02] Jack: high vis and [204.82] Jack: Not fly near airports, which there are many of [208.58] Jack: Gotta wear a high-vis [211.1] Koel: You gotta do a lot of things [215.82] Jack: It was the work you were the first guys to come in with like [219.26] Jack: Yes [220.62] Koel: Well, you know what? [222.86] Koel: The regulations here are not as bad as at least not yet as bad as some places are coming to be so [230.66] Koel: you know [232.06] Koel: it's [233.66] Koel: Just I mean my main thing is just just don't be a dumbass. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Yeah, speaking of which I [240.54] Stephen: Saw someone flying a DJI drone in the park [243.5] UNKNOWN: Oh [244.78] Stephen: Yeah, well, they were walking their dog. They had the the the gray [251.54] Stephen: Marital aid and they are waving it around [255.18] Stephen: And doing the worst job of flying the DJI potato that I've ever seen in my life like the guy was [262.34] Stephen: It's a test. I don't know guys anti collision technology that this didn't hit a person a tree or the ground because he had no [269.7] Stephen: Idea what he was doing. I don't know if thought he was filming himself [272.66] Stephen: He was yanking this thing around like it was on the end of a rope. It was awful [277.3] Stephen: I I wanted to go up and talk to him and I'm like, it's not worth my time, you know, it's just [283.06] Stephen: He was flying over people next to people like up and down and up and down and not [290.02] Stephen: Why would we talk with him when he had no idea what's going on? Oh dear. Oh dear [296.74] Koel: Yeah [304.02] Stephen: The one-handed while walking a dog as well [306.54] Stephen: I mean like it's literally I can't think of there must be a worse way of doing it [310.3] Stephen: But I've yet to see a worse way of flying a drone [313.58] Stephen: Yeah, it was a full-grown guy as well. If it was a kid, I think it's almost excusable, but yeah, it's a bit [322.42] Jack: That's a bit odd. I love how you use the term marital aid for the said [329.94] Jack: Controller [332.42] Stephen: I believe that's the official term youtube friendly. Yeah, I know monetized good luck with that [339.62] Stephen: What is that huge pcb that coals waving around there what are you up to buddy? [344.9] Stephen: Just sort of a giant pcb [347.22] Koel: so yeah, um [348.74] Koel: About eight years ago. I found a core dw 8000 [354.82] Koel: wavetable synthesizer in the garbage at this random apartment and uh [361.46] Koel: I was like, well i'm gonna take that and I don't know why but I just wanted to do it. So [367.46] Koel: um [368.42] Koel: It had a very non-standard plug on the back and uh where I was living at a time in toronto [373.94] Koel: There was a guy a german guy next door who his son. Well, his name was helmet [378.74] Koel: Or helmet and uh, his son happened to be in electronics and he put a standardized three, you know, like the whatever kind of [386.42] Koel: Power cables in the back of like a computer like the three prong kind of whatever so he iced [391.94] Stephen: ic [393.22] Stephen: Whichever one it didn't plug for power or something did it? [396.5] Koel: Yeah, it's like the two and then the ground at the bottom or whatever. It's like this sort of like yeah [401.06] Stephen: But yeah, whatever it's called ic 320 [404.1] Koel: Yeah, so he so he slapped that on there for me and this was way before I knew anything about electronics. So [410.74] Koel: It worked. It's great. Like it's fine. It turns on and you can play it [415.62] Koel: But the problem is this is a 1985 synthesizer that has the same original button or cell. Um [423.14] Koel: A coin cell battery from 1985. So all of the memory all of the programmed [430.02] Koel: Sounds and whatnot. They they're forgotten every time the thing is turned back off [435.14] Koel: um, so [436.82] Koel: I have now have the skills [439.22] Koel: And the confidence I guess to replace this because it's it's a weird. Uh [444.02] Koel: It's a very weird sort of way that it's like a coin cell battery with some terminals stuck onto it [449.7] Koel: Yeah, so what i've done is i've ripped it open [453.14] Koel: I've [454.1] Koel: Taken this board out and i've now put on this coin cell [460.18] Koel: Easily removable one [462.26] Stephen: Ah smart. So [464.98] Stephen: How long does it last if you power it off before everything goes bye-bye? [469.7] Koel: Well, it's been a long time since i've checked it. But basically I would turn it on and none of the [476.58] Koel: User programmable or none of the like the stock programmable sounds were [481.22] Koel: There I would have to like go in and like adjust all these weird parameters to just to get a usable sound [486.66] Koel: And then I would spend like 10 minutes to do that [489.7] Koel: And then [490.9] Stephen: Okay, then you can save on to like a floppy disk or something. It's just all gone. It's all gone. And then and and so [498.58] Koel: Well, that's that's what i'm doing now because now it's like seven years after that. I'm like, well [504.18] Stephen: I guess i'm gonna try and uh make this work again. I see a future of yours where you've got like [510.66] Stephen: floppy disk emulators into scuzzy disk controllers into raspberry pis into like fb servers [518.58] Stephen: And you're like collecting wavetable sets and playing [522.34] Koel: Well, that's what this is. It's a wavetable synth. Yeah, it's uh, it's uh [527.06] Koel: It's weird man. It's it's I mean [530.1] Koel: This hobby has gotten me into other things like I i've been [534.74] Koel: Uh, what size props I think it takes about like probably like 20 inch props man. This thing weighs like 50 pounds [540.9] Koel: I don't know if 20 inches are real thick but [543.54] Koel: Um, it's a heavy it's a heavy heavy synthesizer [546.5] Koel: But uh, yeah, the hobby skills translated over to fixing camcorders not fixing synthesizers [552.42] Koel: it's uh [554.1] Koel: Oh jack's got himself an o3 air unit [557.46] Curry: I was just wondering what you were doing looking through bins in the first place [561.78] Koel: Well, so here's the thing it wasn't actually in the bin [564.74] Koel: It was stacked up next to it just sitting on its side beside the like the big bin [570.5] Jack: So it was like don't lie. He knows me [573.14] Koel: That's why he was in the game. I am not lying. I am not a garbage picker [579.7] Curry: Oh, I feel I should be using trash more I mean jack's picking up discarded [584.66] Curry: Life bows from vapes you you're getting nice winches synthesizers i'm not doing enough in stuff it would seem [592.66] Koel: No, you gotta catch up, man [594.98] Jack: Oh fly [597.22] Jack: What's that fly woo fly woo? This is the naked o3. Yeah unit [605.88] Stephen: I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah. Yeah, you can get them pre-stripped down [610.04] Stephen: They do it in two two variants one where they just like decase and they put in [615.96] Stephen: They put the camera on its own special little shell that saves a few grams and then they um [621.88] Stephen: They leave the sd card and they kind of just get rid of the case that comes around it and that's what i've got [628.04] Stephen: You can get one that's a bit more expensive where they actually like rip off all the rf shielding and save another five grams or something [635.0] Stephen: But yeah, so the regular camera is a bit of a fatty [638.6] Stephen: but this guy [640.84] Stephen: Let's see if that can reach [643.56] Stephen: See this camera this guy is tiny lens is still quite big though [651.0] Jack: The lens seems quite white though [655.32] Stephen: But there used to be a huge plastic shell and they've replaced it with this custom. I think it's aluminium [661.72] Stephen: I think they've actually got like feels close to touch though [666.28] Jack: Yeah, it's pretty neat. Would you reckon there's a bit of dead space in there? [671.96] Stephen: I've got a short cable threat as well [674.2] Stephen: Yeah [674.44] Stephen: There's there's there's absolutely a bunch of debt that the shell they put on the camera is huge for oh three [680.44] Stephen: Like it's it's an absolute fatty chonka [684.2] Curry: And that is this it like buying a racing lamborghini where it weighs less so it costs much more [690.04] Stephen: Oh, it's great [694.6] Stephen: Yeah, they just uh lost it I think goes down from like [698.92] Stephen: 36 grams and this one's like [704.2] Stephen: I think it loses 30 of the weight like it takes it down to [709.96] Stephen: I'm straining. I think this is 23 grams all up [713.48] Stephen: Instead of 36 and then if you pay more than the regular air unit then they do the [720.28] Stephen: Full blown weight reduction which does cost more but this one costs the same amount as the regular air unit, which is nice [729.8] Jack: Nice [731.08] Jack: Curry, how was your time in Brighton? Was it all right? [734.68] Curry: Yeah, I went there too long [737.24] Curry: And ended up spending lots of money [741.03] Curry: Uh, and that was about it. It was we're only there for a few hours after we saw you [745.91] Jack: Was she out of control? [747.91] Jack: Even though she's the breadwinner and should be allowed to do whatever [751.75] Curry: In her view no in my view it costs much more than I expected [757.27] Curry: We were there because she wanted to [759.99] Curry: Change the setting of a diamond on one ring and replaced the [764.23] Curry: Band of it on another ring and then do something else with another ring and that came to three and a half grand [769.35] Curry: Which is not particularly cheap [771.91] Curry: And I was like what now? [773.91] Curry: I was like that's that's a lot [776.39] Curry: aesthetics [777.99] Curry: Yeah [780.63] Koel: You know what they say diamonds [782.71] Koel: Diamonds is a woman's best friend [787.3] Stephen: That's what they say. Oh, you like what you like [790.58] Koel: Yeah, we spent thousands on drones, right? So [796.5] Curry: No max 20 quid [799.38] Curry: Yeah, that limit [801.38] Curry: That's that's it 20 quid anything you look at that's about 20 quid. That's about 20 quid. That's about 20 quid [807.06] Curry: Unless I die and she comes to sell them then i'll be like it wasn't really 20 quid [812.34] Curry: Three [813.7] Stephen: anime member of elia that he hauled back [816.98] Stephen: from uh from japan [818.98] Stephen: 20 quid [820.42] Curry: 20 quid. Well, she was able to pull that wasn't that it wasn't that much [824.18] Jack: I was disappointed. You didn't bring any used panties back [828.26] Curry: Do you keep going on about the used panty which is what I thought col was looking for on the bins [832.34] Curry: But I still didn't see any of these these [836.02] Curry: Alleged vending machines. I don't know what part of tokyo. They they must be in [841.14] Curry: They uh, this has very very dodgy indeed [845.54] Curry: The weirdest thing I found was a diaper vending machine [849.78] Jack: Yeah, that's almost worse than these panties [853.22] Curry: I'm assuming you use clean diapers right clean diapers for your baby [858.26] Curry: All right, which I think is acceptable. Yeah, that's fine [862.82] Jack: We all get caught short [865.46] Koel: Question for you guys, um, maybe because i'm being a bad guy [869.38] Koel: But isn't it bad to have the battery in when i'm gonna do the solder joint? Yes [876.74] Koel: I know I was just testing you guys. Obviously [880.66] Curry: I actually I actually used some little batteries today. I so fed up with my old tyrannuses beeping at me [886.98] Curry: I bought some cr 12 20s [890.34] Curry: To put in there not that i've ever used the the actual clock in a tyrannis [894.26] Curry: I just got fed up a bit again [897.86] Curry: Rtc battery low [899.7] Curry: I know when you turn it on if the if the real time clock battery is low it bleeps at you [905.62] Stephen: Yeah, it screams here. Shouldn't it trickle charge the rtc battery from like [911.22] Stephen: The main battery. No, no, it's not rechargeable [914.9] Curry: These are not rechargeables [917.06] Curry: But I have had that radio for [919.94] Curry: Over 10 years [921.38] Curry: Yeah, you've done really well [923.62] Curry: It's it's all right. I mean it's been bleeping for the past two years. I just haven't got ran to replacing the battery [930.58] Jack: It helps with [932.66] Jack: um the [937.35] Jack: Gps this sort of stuff if you have like the gps [941.19] Jack: Hang on. Shall I shall I just put up the [943.75] Jack: How would I just gonna put up the dementia thing, but you seem to be all right. Yeah, no, uh, [948.39] Jack: I just couldn't think of word gps. Well term acronym [952.07] Jack: Uh gps. Yeah, because you need the clock data for all that [956.55] Jack: No reason [958.55] Stephen: I know you shouldn't but apparently you do well quads can get a gps lock and they don't have real-time clocks do they? [965.91] Jack: No, but they pull that and store it into memory via their [969.99] Jack: onboard battery [973.21] Curry: They get they get the clock time from the stat lights because that's one of the [977.13] Curry: enemy ea [978.97] Curry: Strings [980.17] Stephen: Yeah, that's literally how they provide the gps fix. It's by a timing shift between yeah [986.57] Jack: Yeah, and I don't know whether the [990.55] Jack: Taranis can write the logs that quickly for [997.29] Jack: um saving the [1000.33] Jack: The you know all the telemetry or let alone the [1004.65] Jack: Gps telemetry of where you go down. I don't know. I know who [1008.97] Jack: My buddy tom [1010.73] Curry: I think that's the only useful thing for having the clock if you're gonna log [1014.57] Curry: Telemetry stuff which i'm not I just got fed up with a beeping at me [1018.65] Jack: Yeah [1021.53] Jack: and I even the [1023.53] Jack: radio master's got a [1025.53] Jack: Battery in there as well the old boxer. I think [1029.13] Curry: I'm sure they all have [1031.13] Curry: It's just that and the the q7 [1038.65] Jack: I finally sold my old four in one module that took a very very cool. Yes find me when [1046.81] Jack: Someone wanted it someone someone was being a good boy and [1052.57] Jack: ordered the [1054.97] Jack: uh [1055.77] Jack: if the [1057.69] Jack: No, what what's our thing? [1060.09] Jack: Lbt version and then they were like this doesn't work with any of my old receivers. I've only got four options [1067.29] Jack: and they were like, is it the [1069.69] Jack: fcc one I was like, I don't know so to take mine apart plug in an antenna [1075.79] Jack: like [1076.75] Jack: Have a look run the lure go to the radio set up change it from crossfire to the multi-protocol. Have a look [1083.79] Jack: Find the things on there. It was a bit of a song and a dance, but we you know, you're helping [1089.63] Jack: You know another person within the hobby sort their thing out. This is a multi-protocol module, is it? [1096.43] Jack: Yes, because my boss it did both they mine it. Yeah, exactly [1100.75] Stephen: It'll the multi-protocol will do lbt and fcc. You just need to [1107.71] Stephen: Really [1109.71] Stephen: On all of the radios i've got you just switch it from one to the other it's in the config options. I've updated it recently [1115.71] Stephen: yeah [1117.87] Curry: It's literally you go into free sky protocol and then you've got the sub protocol I think which says it's [1123.55] Curry: d16 or d8 or lbt or whatever [1127.39] Curry: yep [1129.39] Stephen: lbt 16 or fcc 16 [1135.4] Jack: uh [1136.68] Jack: Let's have a look I [1140.52] Jack: Don't either I don't agree with you because look [1145.8] Stephen: I mean i've got one right here, mate [1147.48] Stephen: And I can tell you that my tx 16s has profiles for fcc and lbt [1154.12] Jack: Look four in one lbt [1157.0] Curry: Fcc yeah, but that's that's meaning this on that [1160.6] Curry: It's meaningless on [1162.28] Curry: All of them to be fair as well because even if you get a cc 2500 chip it has [1168.04] Curry: The lesser set of protocols for the multi-protocol module [1173.0] Stephen: It's not actually locked into the hardware it's purely software defined [1179.16] Jack: I did not know that [1181.08] Jack: I thought it was because of uh, you know buying the said module [1185.88] Stephen: Oh, well never mind [1188.6] Stephen: You've perpetuated the confusion and that's the important thing [1192.44] Jack: I didn't know if I'd known I would have told them [1197.47] Curry: You guys been doing any any flying at all? No, it's been horrendous for me. I've come i'll quickly explain [1205.07] Curry: Where it's been horrendous [1206.75] Curry: First I wasn't gonna go fly. I was gonna fly see this up there. Look there's a little boat. I was gonna take that out [1214.43] Curry: um, and that was the day that [1216.83] Curry: both [1218.11] Curry: The the other family members decided to take all the cars and I couldn't drive far enough to take it [1224.03] Curry: and since that time [1226.03] Curry: it has either been [1229.15] Curry: I've been having to do something or it's raining and all this week. We've been having a bathroom installed and i've been stuck in here [1236.75] Curry: Listening to drills and hammers and not being able to go anywhere [1241.23] Curry: And having to make endless cup to tease [1243.71] Curry: So it's been a bad time for me and I can't make any videos either else. You just get this noise [1250.51] Curry: All over the place so no good bad [1255.31] Curry: Sounds like steven's no better [1259.08] Stephen: Barely, I mean I got out wanting to go and fly the boxer, but I kind of did a like a two for one [1266.28] Stephen: So I tested out the boxer [1269.24] Stephen: With my uh full-on radiomaster shill gear on and yeah, it's fantastic. It's [1275.96] Stephen: I think it's everything that I kind of wanted but didn't know I wanted because i've been using my little yellow radio for ages [1282.6] Stephen: And I thought oh, that's fine because I [1285.16] Stephen: I could use the gimbals and hit the extremes the gimbals quite easily on that whereas the tx16s. I was always like [1292.92] Stephen: trying to balance this great lump of a radio and I could never really kind of [1298.76] Stephen: Use the gimbals fully. It was always like [1302.84] Stephen: You know working around the mass of the body of the radio and I never I didn't really find a comfortable position where I get [1309.96] Stephen: Full throw on the gimbals but with the boxer for whatever reason [1313.72] Stephen: And I can just do that. I don't feel like i'm having to constantly like [1318.84] Stephen: move this [1320.2] Stephen: giant lump of radio around [1323.16] Stephen: To to use the gimbals and so it just it feels great feels really really good. Um [1330.36] Stephen: It reminds me [1331.96] Stephen: Of how good gimbals radiomaster do as well. Like i've had a couple of jumper radios and [1338.36] Stephen: they've creaks literally [1341.16] Stephen: I had to change the gimbals on the t light because they just started creaking and my t8 [1346.84] Stephen: The gimbals started creaking and they're really kind of [1350.36] Stephen: I think that's the one thing i've got against plastic gimbals that they develop a bit of creakiness over time [1355.4] Stephen: even the wall effect ones they just kind of [1358.12] Stephen: Start to deform or weave it and you get this sort of [1363.64] Stephen: In the gimbal [1365.08] Stephen: Um, and it's got none of that. It's it's absolutely lovely [1367.88] Stephen: So yeah, I configured my telemetry screens and zoomed around and i'd also flashed the latest walkstell firmware [1374.68] Stephen: I've been running the beta the tester [1377.72] Stephen: Test that bit, but I flashed the the latest walkstell firmware that has multiple font pages [1382.68] Stephen: You've got your white fonts your red fonts your green fonts and your orange fonts [1386.84] Stephen: and so all the warnings come up in different colors and [1390.12] Stephen: Splendiferous it was it was working really well [1395.72] Stephen: I didn't screw around with that. No, I mean [1398.12] Stephen: I'm not a racer. I can't pretend to have anything close to the reaction times for that [1403.56] Stephen: But uh, yeah, I really enjoyed the colored fonts at least [1407.16] Curry: Yeah, i'm glad they they raised the limits on that because it was at three as I found out when I tried to store [1414.12] Curry: And uh your your custom fonts will now work with osd playback in the goggles, which is quite nice [1420.76] Stephen: Yeah, I got a pack from sneaky and uh, he'd instantly pushed it from [1425.64] Stephen: The previous version of three up to fourteen [1428.68] Stephen: So he's got like three in our fonts the three argi pilot fonts and [1434.6] Stephen: Like eight different beta flight fonts and there's a special font. If you look at them, they're just png files and you can see [1443.08] Stephen: It's purely a replica like the white green blue [1446.76] Stephen: right green amber red, um [1450.28] Stephen: Yeah [1451.4] Stephen: Really nice does the job can't complain. It seems less flickery as well [1455.4] Stephen: I didn't have any osd flickering which is good because the previous walks now versions [1460.04] Stephen: Were giving it a bit flickering on the osd. Yeah, I agree [1463.64] Curry: I noticed that they said one outstanding problem is [1467.0] Curry: The flicker is still there if you record on the vtx [1473.61] Curry: uh, so that's [1476.65] Curry: Still to fix I think they've improved it but they haven't [1479.77] Curry: Eradicated it completely as my understanding. I do notice when I bring up the menu [1484.41] Stephen: I'll bring up the menu [1486.57] Stephen: The you know land disarm bring up the osd menu [1490.65] Stephen: And until I move a line up or down in the osd menu, it like doesn't bother to render it [1495.93] Stephen: But if I go up and down suddenly ping the osd [1499.93] Stephen: Uh, you know conflict menu appears [1502.57] Stephen: Because I usually go in there and be like oh just [1505.21] Stephen: Bump up my filters a bit more just bump that up a little bit more [1508.25] Stephen: See if we can get closer to the uh, the the bleeding edge of performance just so I can [1513.37] Stephen: Fly badly and the flight controller deals with all that [1516.73] Stephen: Gotta love that very nice. I noticed they've [1519.85] Stephen: Dropped a new vtx as well. So that camera came out but they've also [1524.65] Stephen: Dropped a vtx that does like 3 volt up to 13 volt, which seems perfect [1529.85] Stephen: And it's yes, we have 4 grams lighter than the previous one as well [1535.29] Curry: Yeah, and have a little tiddly one, isn't it? They called it the v3, but it's really [1539.53] Curry: V2 of the small one. I suppose you might call it. Yeah [1543.53] Stephen: It's like a 32 gig version of the small one, which is which is very small. Yeah [1549.61] Stephen: It's nice to have the option from 3 to 13 volt by you can put it on your [1553.61] Stephen: Your 12 volt or your 9 volt or 10 volt back [1556.65] Stephen: But you can also just slap it on 5 volt if [1559.61] Stephen: You're on a kind of space constraint build so long as your uh, your main back's okay. That's always a nice option [1566.09] Jack: Mm [1568.09] Stephen: I've absolutely mashed one of the buttons on one of these little quads though. I [1573.93] Stephen: It's the one the one that's just a bare pcb that doesn't have the metal cover the 1s board and i've [1579.37] Stephen: Crashed and smashed the button and it almost knocked the button off but not quite and now i have to like [1585.61] Stephen: Really press it from two different angles to make sure the button stays off [1590.33] Stephen: It stays attached to the board while I depress it. Um, that's a bit of a challenge, but more updates are interesting now [1599.45] Stephen: But yeah a little bit of flight anyone else got out for a fly this week can't say I have really I [1606.25] Jack: I I worked on [1610.01] Jack: You know the nato 3a unit so i've done a bit of building and stuff and kind of had a [1617.69] Jack: Um done some updating, but yeah, i'm i'm really being able to get out [1623.93] Jack: new curry [1625.45] Curry: as as [1626.73] Curry: described [1628.01] Curry: Nightmare-ish several weeks and it's it's not gonna get any better because um, the bathroom is not gonna be finished [1634.81] Curry: Probably next week and then we have to take sophie off to university the week after that and that's like three days out [1641.37] Curry: That's all bad. I've got some new stuff [1643.69] Curry: I just haven't been able to play with it. I've got so much stuff lined up to do [1647.93] Curry: apart from that city boat [1650.33] Curry: I I got some should I show you the stuff i've been getting yeah if you're free to talk about it [1655.45] Curry: Yeah. Oh, yeah, some of some of which actually thought with with money i've got [1660.73] Curry: When I get back to fly my um seven inch chimera quad a couple of these guys [1667.77] Curry: This is a a full send [1670.57] Curry: Four thousand million success [1674.25] Stephen: lithium ion lithium-ion. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's a 21 700 pack. Yeah, so that's that's meaty [1681.45] Curry: But uh, i've bought these from your fbv and gaff who runs that sent me very kindly [1686.41] Curry: he said oh i'll i'll send you this in the post as well because [1690.25] Curry: then i'll be able to see how a [1693.29] Curry: regular [1694.57] Curry: Regular it says it's regular. I think the cells are very [1698.09] Curry: Very circular like they're all 21 700s or something. They look very similar [1702.81] Curry: So i've got two four thousand one professor's to be lithium ion one professor's to be lithium polymer. So we'll see how those go [1712.73] Curry: Sorry [1713.69] Curry: Do they weigh roughly the same amount? [1715.85] Curry: Yeah [1716.49] Curry: When i'm just holding them because you'd expect them to be a good charge to four point one [1721.13] Stephen: And he's assuring you it's good to charge to four point two [1724.57] Curry: Well, that's that's what it's telling me. It says six cell [1728.41] Curry: 22.2 volts [1730.97] Curry: We'll find out [1732.65] Curry: I'll check the instructions. Yeah [1736.49] Curry: We got [1737.85] Koel: Do a little uh long range action [1741.53] Curry: Well last time I went to my field [1744.17] Curry: They were actually doing they had an event on they have this sunflower event where they have [1748.97] Curry: Members of public in the field. So I got sort of told off [1752.25] Curry: a little bit for [1753.85] Curry: for flying there [1756.01] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience downloaded and edited to make sense when it's played audio only [1762.73] Frank: Censored to please the itunes people hosted on the internet forwarded through to your podcast provider [1767.51] Frank: Downloaded playing on your device and is now playing in your ears all thanks to our patreons [1773.29] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits [1776.73] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com [1779.85] Frank: Let's drone out [1782.01] Curry: My friend gaff at urfpv got me this [1785.29] Curry: uh this thing this sounds very interesting this is the [1788.89] Curry: analog [1790.17] Curry: and [1791.05] Curry: Where's it's the? [1792.81] Curry: What they actually call it. They actually call it something vague like goblet expansion module [1796.81] Curry: Which will take an analog signal and I think it's got a wi-fi chip in there [1800.73] Curry: so you should be able to [1802.49] Curry: Connect to it the server on your phone [1805.61] Curry: And be able to see the footage from there [1808.41] Curry: and to go with that we got [1811.37] Curry: One of these little guys [1813.13] Curry: Mobile light seven [1814.81] Curry: Which I have to say is the smallest [1817.61] Curry: Looking hd camera i've ever seen [1820.17] Curry: because certainly the um [1822.01] Curry: The walk snail one is tiny [1824.97] Curry: Look at this guy [1826.49] Jack: Frank frank says it's fine to put the uh new [1830.01] Jack: new uh [1831.37] Jack: Government tracking module on there. There's loads of room. Yeah, I think that'll carry a kilo and a half. No problem [1837.69] Curry: Yeah, there's there's nothing there. There's just a board and a camera. It's so tiny [1842.73] Curry: That's interesting [1844.33] Curry: So i'm hoping to get around to flying that stuff soon, but [1848.17] Curry: Like I said, it's like bathrooms getting down [1851.77] Curry: Other stuff's getting down. I see rich warrick saying he was flying at drone fest [1857.13] Curry: And I started I started watching a drone fest video, but I didn't get a chance to finish it [1862.33] Jack: Yeah, there apparently has been a few live streams and everything [1867.13] Jack: Nice [1869.37] Jack: So, yeah, I I couldn't do anything today these have rained all day till about five [1874.81] Jack: so i've been [1876.89] Jack: Just my cod's here in spirit. I'm ready to go [1881.37] Jack: I can't win [1884.01] Curry: So what what is the conclusions on light iron people are saying 4.2. I thought it was 4.1 [1890.81] Stephen: My charger tells me it's 4.1 as soon as I select lithium. I don't know if they're special cases. I mean that is like [1898.97] Jack: 0.10 of a volt [1900.97] Jack: Do you know what I mean? [1903.05] Jack: Is there really that much in it? [1905.05] Stephen: I don't know do it like 10 or 12 times and is your 100 quid battery still working? [1910.81] Stephen: Yes, it's what you want to know, isn't it? [1912.97] Jack: Yeah, true. Don't don't take my advice. I am a [1916.73] Jack: animal [1918.49] Stephen: Like you can races charge packs to like 4.4 and above but [1925.93] Stephen: They don't care if things catch fire [1927.77] Curry: So they they don't intend to have their batteries for more than like one race. Do they? [1932.09] Curry: Nah [1933.13] Curry: Just got to get past the gate. That's all they care [1936.41] Curry: Well carillon sent a link. Let's have a look at the link [1939.29] Jack: Any of this tell me when you you see something you want to [1942.81] Jack: Read I have no idea what you're looking at but [1945.61] Stephen: What [1948.09] Curry: Walls of text [1951.21] Curry: The idea with these guys is actually check [1953.37] Curry: Uh the flight time rather than rain because first off I need to be confident that that quad can fly okay and stuff [1960.01] Curry: Secondly, I don't know if that event's still on so I have to keep in the confines of two fields [1965.37] Curry: Which i'm just going to go around in circles and like this lasts 12 minutes just last whatever minutes [1970.81] Stephen: You also got to be dead careful not to like not to punch out [1975.21] Stephen: And pull more than so many amps because that absolutely ruins them [1980.41] Curry: Yes, they're they're not for they're not for ripping. They're for cruising and I kind of [1985.29] Curry: I'm quite happy. I I quite like a bit of a large cruisey quad just to [1989.93] Curry: Fly around and stuff. I think there's there's much better quads if you want to [1993.93] Stephen: Do silly things complain bitterly about like coming [1997.53] Stephen: Coming out of dives and getting on the gas a bit and suddenly you're like two point what? [2002.33] Stephen: And uh, that's a bit scary [2004.97] Curry: That's quite I don't know if you've ever tried flying [2008.01] Curry: Really gently to see what you can get at the normal [2010.65] Curry: A normal battery because if you can fly a regular battery at three minutes, you can actually get probably [2015.13] Curry: About nine minutes out of it if you're really careful and you just go really gentle circles and stuff like that [2021.69] Curry: But it's quite it's quite interesting to do it takes a lot of concentration [2024.73] Curry: But it's also quite boring flying around in circles for that long. I expect that's what happens if you join a club though [2029.93] Stephen: Go around in circles [2032.17] Stephen: Ah dear, yeah [2035.21] Stephen: Speaking of which, um, anyone got any ideas for commenting on the CAA's proposal now that everyone's come out with a boilerplate [2044.57] Stephen: Please echo our [2046.71] Stephen: organization's thoughts memos [2049.43] Curry: No, it still makes me angry to try and compose it's kind of like trying to [2055.03] Curry: When you have to explain something that's so bloody obvious it um, it hurts my brain [2059.91] Curry: Yeah, I don't know [2063.27] Stephen: I feel like just scribbling in the crayons instead. I had a shot at it [2067.59] Stephen: and it made me angry and I I found I was just [2072.31] Stephen: Taking almost the politician's angle of just repeating the same thing for every single question [2077.99] Stephen: Just in case they missed the point so just [2081.67] Stephen: You know people who build their own quads are often not able to update the airframes to our gps units often [2087.83] Stephen: The flight performance of the craft is unable to sustain the added weight required to carry gps system [2093.75] Stephen: Sometimes the onboard electronics are incapable of interfacing with gps systems [2098.39] Stephen: The airframes are not capable of holding the bloodline just for every single question [2102.79] Stephen: And then you know putting in new laws does not guarantee that anyone [2107.83] Stephen: You know any bad actors will in any way be affected by these laws blah blah blah [2113.27] Stephen: Just repeat every single time [2115.83] Jack: He's just attacks on the innocent [2119.19] Jack: Yeah [2120.79] Stephen: Yeah, it'd be like oh, yeah number plates of voluntary now [2124.55] Stephen: We still got speeding cameras, but number plates are voluntary [2127.43] Stephen: So be sure to put your number plates on before you leave the house [2130.47] Stephen: Because if we see a car without a number plate on [2134.71] Stephen: We'll say that that's a bad thing [2137.91] Stephen: You know like what the what the hell are you doing like? [2141.67] Stephen: How how is this assist? This is the the opposite of a system? [2145.75] Curry: Well, they probably do in that case [2150.15] Curry: To use the uh [2151.35] Curry: The analogy is they probably find a car the same model and color and then send the finding that guy because it's like well [2157.91] Curry: It's probably you [2159.11] Stephen: Mash the people onto the floor and tear gas them [2163.19] Curry: Sounds fair. Yeah, probably about right so that comes into [2170.39] Curry: The u.s. What uh 19th is it september? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think that sounds right. Yeah [2179.27] Stephen: We can see everyone is totally prepared everyone so i'm sure seeing the [2183.91] Stephen: Wealth of articles informing people how they can uh now abide the law in the united states of america [2190.39] Stephen: See what happens? [2192.31] Jack: Yeah [2193.91] Curry: I think wherever this sort of thing happens, there's going to be three distinct camps [2198.39] Curry: Maybe four there's going to be the the people that abide by the law and to do that they'll probably be flying club grounds [2205.35] Curry: There's going to be people like screw you [2207.83] Curry: This is my freedom and stuff and just fly whatever they want [2211.11] Curry: And there's going to be guys that just give up and say this is now too much hassle and then the hobby suffers because of it [2216.45] Curry: unfortunately [2217.99] Jack: If that crap comes in i'm just gonna [2220.55] Jack: like [2221.91] Jack: basically [2223.11] Jack: Get my angle grinder out [2225.11] Jack: Cut one arm off every quad and then just throw them in the bin [2231.51] Koel: Don't do that i'll buy them off here [2233.75] Jack: Yeah [2235.91] Curry: Just oh, yeah caroline mentioned that flight tests had their freer rejected for their [2242.47] Curry: That big golf club ground thing which they've been flying from for years [2249.27] Curry: Like the largest organization that anyone can think of that's hilarious [2255.03] Curry: It's [2256.07] Curry: It's it's weird. It's like hi. I earn this huge thing and it's my land and i'd like to fly there, please. No [2263.27] Curry: What I know? [2265.35] Stephen: What do you mean? I can't do what I want with it [2268.47] Stephen: Have you tried maybe owning a large international media corporation and then reapplying? [2274.71] Curry: That's what you're going wrong [2276.55] Jack: It's it's infuriating now [2279.35] Jack: It's getting to the point of just like [2281.91] Jack: Taking the piss. Has anyone got any happy nose? [2285.11] Jack: So I shall I google puppies and read some puppy news [2289.19] Koel: I learned how to uh, uh, maddie flip [2292.87] Stephen: three [2294.31] Stephen: Nice how did it feel? [2296.47] Koel: Uh, it was [2298.55] Koel: Well, it was a little nervous. Uh, I was a little nervous at first [2301.51] Koel: But once I did it like two or three times in a row, it was like, oh not a big not a big deal [2306.79] Koel: But I was also doing it in between two trees with grass under me. So that uh, [2313.91] Koel: You know baby steps [2316.63] Curry: I think that's the best way to start like oh, let's just go with concrete [2320.47] Curry: Let's not let's not bend nicely [2323.11] Koel: No, no [2325.35] Koel: yeah, it's uh [2326.95] Koel: it's an interesting feeling when [2330.15] Koel: Because you you have to give throttle like you basically you're flipping forward [2334.39] Koel: Or you're pitching forward or whatever and you kind of have to do that front flip a throttle so that you can suck yourself back [2341.99] Koel: and like [2343.51] Koel: yeah, it's uh [2345.83] Koel: It's a weird feeling especially if you give a lot of throttle and it really like ejecto sedos you like it's uh, [2351.43] Koel: It can be a bit like whoa. What I can't see behind me [2355.75] Stephen: Yeah, it's something to be said for adding a bit of uh up tilt, right? [2360.07] Stephen: Yeah, I I did tell you that [2363.35] Koel: yeah, but [2365.91] Koel: That means like that's such a pain in the butt [2367.83] Koel: You gotta get a new gopro mouse and then change things just to do one trick. That's like [2372.71] Jack: Well, no, you just adjust your camera [2376.23] Koel: No, I know but that means then what then i'm gonna be running at like 45 [2380.23] Stephen: Or yeah ish right like it depends on the fov if your fpv camera is compared to the gopro if you've got a way wider [2389.46] Stephen: fov on the fpv camera, you might be able to just get by moving the fpv camera a wee bit and uh [2396.32] Stephen: Realizing that your framing's off by a little bit vertically [2400.18] Koel: Yeah, I I basically keep mine both like 20 and 20 like i'm trying to keep them as [2406.98] Koel: Similar as I can just because I feel like if you start messing around with like offset angles of gopro versus uh [2414.66] Koel: You know gopro versus fpv cam. It's [2418.1] Koel: You have to do this weird process in your head like okay [2421.38] Koel: I'm seeing this but my camera is slightly lower. So I think i've noticed they added for the walk snail [2427.46] Stephen: I don't know if anyone spotted this but there's now a section where there's like a viewfinder [2432.42] Stephen: And so you can have a dotted rectangle that covers a portion of your fpv feed [2438.66] Stephen: And so if you've got an hd camera [2441.7] Stephen: That is pointed somewhere around your screen that doesn't cover the whole of the fpv feed [2446.9] Stephen: You can now have a box on your fpv feed to represent where your hd camera is, which is kind of interesting [2453.54] Jack: I wonder how easy that is to marry up though [2458.1] Stephen: You'd need to mess around a lot. It's a bit of back and forth, isn't there? [2462.18] Jack: Yeah, you can't pull in the sd card seeing what [2465.06] Jack: What it counts to you then put bits of tape from [2468.42] Stephen: Wi-fi preview on goggles and just you know [2472.58] Curry: Do you want to hear what what the I kept when I first did my video on walk snail [2476.9] Curry: I had all these unanswered questions about what these features were and I asked the [2482.1] Curry: the guy in walk snail support [2484.74] Curry: What the viewfinder was for and he said [2487.54] Curry: The viewfinder is only used to keep the same angle as the gopro [2490.98] Curry: Pro and keep the shooting the same object. This features of no practical use [2497.22] Curry: That's coming from walk snail [2499.46] Stephen: I have that [2504.18] Curry: Do people at least have plans in the next or the coming weeks to to do something [2510.58] Curry: Do we have do we have plans? [2514.26] Jack: I don't know [2515.78] Jack: What about you you're busy you're busy going away. So it's not even like [2520.42] Jack: You know like like how many like [2524.02] Jack: Like oh, okay, then curry. Yeah, let's meet up [2528.02] Jack: Because that's one thing and steven was saying it was like yes, let's go fly with curry [2535.8] Curry: ldo meet up [2537.48] Curry: Yeah, as I said, i'd like me after [2539.88] Curry: At the moment we've still got the bathroom going on which I have to be in the house for at all times [2545.16] Curry: And uh, and then i'm i'm going away to leads for several days and then it'd probably be winter [2553.24] Curry: Yeah, but yeah in theory anyway, we did meet up jack we just had coffee that's all instead of flying [2560.92] Jack: If I didn't bum out paper too much [2563.88] Stephen: Well, if we can put some time in the next year we can make it happen [2567.24] Stephen: I think this year's kind of drawing to our closures in terms of flying time most of the time when I step outside [2572.68] Stephen: It's getting a bit cold or sudden cracks of thunder appearing over the horizon scaring the pants off over [2579.88] Jack: Yeah, shady knows where it's at then off skiing [2583.8] Jack: And then drinking chalet at the lodge [2587.16] Stephen: Yeah, i'm not staying this year [2590.76] Stephen: Yeah, i'm probably not snowboarding either [2594.28] Jack: I messed up my shoulder me and steven need to need to meet up and go snowflowing and [2600.92] Jack: bring the [2602.36] Jack: historical [2603.96] Stephen: historical quads [2605.56] Stephen: Yeah, well we could be able to meet up. I had a good time flying in the snow last year [2609.96] Stephen: Actually, I was filming elle like sledging down hills and accidentally like stacking it into kids snowmen and things [2616.76] Stephen: She had no idea. There was a giant snowman at the bottom of the hill and just went slam straight into it [2621.56] Jack: No way did he upset the little kitty weeks to spend ages [2624.44] Stephen: It was like to be such a big snowman that she hit it and then just stopped [2628.44] Stephen: And just fell off the sled pure comedy [2632.2] Stephen: It's just you know, like packed block of ice at the bottom of the hill [2636.04] Jack: Mind you it'll be bob's first snow day as well [2640.04] Stephen: Yeah, bob the schnauzer [2642.36] Stephen: She's been having a great time recently [2644.76] Stephen: Running around like a loon [2647.4] Curry: There's no guarantee of snow though. That's the only problem in this country [2650.6] Curry: There's no guarantee of a summer or a proper winter. There is guarantee of grace guys and rain [2655.32] Curry: We can prolong spring and prolonged autumn. That's where we live [2659.48] Curry: Yes [2660.76] Curry: We only went flying in the snow like once and we wanted to go [2664.68] Curry: You know when this beautiful blue sky and the snow all lights up we didn't have that we just had flat light [2670.2] Curry: So just look like we're flying over white just just white. No, no particular shades. Just some sort of white out down there [2677.72] Stephen: I want to I want to do to build over winter just [2681.56] Stephen: A lot of the fpv stuff like constantly trying to fix stuff [2685.56] Stephen: After croatia just kind of sucked the energy out of me [2688.92] Stephen: now i've got to [2690.92] Stephen: Give myself a chance to [2693.0] Stephen: Refill that little reservoir. I guess [2698.54] Jack: She really does [2701.34] Stephen: Uh [2702.54] Stephen: Just a bit bit tired [2703.82] Stephen: I like i've got a couple of builds that i've got all the parts for [2708.06] Stephen: I wanted to try out this and that and I wanted to go fly a bunch and i'm just a bit tired, you know [2713.34] Stephen: new job and [2716.78] Stephen: Lots of flying earlier in the year [2719.18] Stephen: So I might you know, i'm just having a bit of a quiet period i'll come back to it [2723.26] Stephen: But just a bit bit knackered [2726.38] Stephen: having to [2727.58] Stephen: You know get up to speed and the new job was more exhausting than I thought it would be [2732.54] Stephen: still [2733.58] Stephen: Refilling the uh, the batter is a bit after that [2738.6] Jack: You'll get there man. I think you've done really well this year [2744.23] Stephen: It's got a lot of flying in [2747.03] Stephen: Yeah, yeah, i've got a bit in the croatia thing that was just a massive stint i'm still looking through the footage [2752.55] Stephen: I I think I uploaded all i'm going to upload but there's a lot [2757.03] Stephen: I'm just trying to catalog it. So then I disappeared down to like fix up the nas and [2762.55] Stephen: Setting up zfs doing like block resizing and re-compressing files [2769.41] Stephen: Reconfiguring disks [2771.11] Stephen: Then I realized that my nas access was a bit irritatingly slow. So I started upgrading the network. I went from gigabit to 2.5 gig [2779.43] Stephen: Dried out some 10g adapters. They ran a bit too hot [2782.95] Stephen: screwing around with everything [2786.28] Jack: I I still can't get my um [2789.4] Jack: My board my motherboard from my nouns to post [2794.28] Stephen: Why not? [2795.4] Jack: Uh, I I wish I had a clue [2798.6] Jack: at first I thought it was [2801.88] Jack: the board needed a BIOS update because it [2806.84] Jack: It it mentioned I finally found the list [2811.08] Jack: for all the [2812.68] Jack: possible, um [2815.38] Jack: CPUs for my board [2817.88] Jack: And then I ordered uh, I ordered one that didn't need a BIOS update [2823.24] Jack: And does it post? [2825.24] Jack: No, it starts up. Uh, i've got fan spin [2829.56] Jack: Uh, how many beeps do you get? [2832.6] Jack: How many beeps you get none no beeps [2836.04] Jack: with the [2837.72] Jack: With the speaker in there [2839.96] Jack: Port speaker, no beeps, but starts up [2843.24] Jack: Got fan spin. So I don't know. I don't know what to do wrong [2846.68] Stephen: Got the right power connectors on there. You've got memory inserted [2850.12] Stephen: Yep, as far as I know [2851.72] Stephen: Have you got too much memory inserted? Have you messed around and tried memory in different slots and stuff? [2857.0] Jack: Yeah, I tried [2858.68] Jack: known working memory [2860.68] Jack: Tried different slots. I don't know [2862.68] Stephen: Take out all your expansion cards [2865.8] Jack: Now I need a power supply. No, no, no expansion cards there [2870.12] Jack: Was it working when you bought it? [2872.52] Jack: Uh, I don't know. No second hand mother would [2876.28] Curry: It's all second hand stuff. Did it say spares and repairs in the listing? [2881.48] Curry: no [2883.24] Jack: So I don't know I might have I might have like [2887.16] Jack: You know lucked out and not [2891.37] Jack: You know not got a working working thing [2894.89] Jack: But I don't know. I've been I've been trying is something, you know [2897.93] Jack: I want to do because you know curry mocks me for [2901.53] Jack: Not being good at linux and you know being too dyslexic and [2906.09] Jack: Not being able to spell and I was I was trying to [2909.45] Jack: You know, I was trying to I was trying to rectify that [2912.89] Curry: I don't mock you for being dyslexic. I just lock you for being [2916.41] Curry: Linux [2917.53] Stephen: Yeah, it's helpful if you have something that's working [2921.21] Stephen: Get it [2922.01] Stephen: I mean you've definitely taken the hard mode approach by picking something that wasn't working when you started like that's [2929.37] Stephen: That's the skating uphill [2932.09] Stephen: Approach there. Yeah [2934.41] Stephen: Make it easier for yourself, maybe [2936.65] Jack: Yeah, but you know, it's like spending, you know spending quite a bit on like, you know [2942.73] Jack: known working hardware [2944.81] Jack: For a bit of a project [2947.05] Curry: To be fair whenever you do get known working hardware and plug it into your system something [2952.33] Curry: Goes non-working about it pretty quickly [2955.05] Jack: Yeah, well, that's me, you know, I don't buy us update. That was [2959.69] Jack: You know, and I follow steve's advice and it worked [2964.62] Jack: you know just [2967.26] Jack: Install yeah reinstall [2970.28] Jack: restart [2972.54] Jack: Hit it [2976.54] Jack: They got I got fixed old diggy dance [2979.34] Jack: Son's computer it fell over and now it won't stay on [2983.66] Jack: huge crash [2984.22] Curry: I like the fact it fell over like what was it drunk one night and we're trying to get back from the pub [2989.66] Jack: I will find out so I get the full breakdown on [2994.7] Jack: Boom, but I don't know might be a cracked motherboard [2999.18] Jack: Oh geez [3001.42] Stephen: Sounds like it [3003.5] Stephen: Sounds like the old uh, it's a lot to actually crack a piece of silicon [3008.14] Stephen: More likely some plug came off [3010.54] Jack: No, no, no, like, you know, you've got you've got if you've got a graphics card there [3015.5] Jack: And you know the pcie slot [3018.7] Jack: You know and it the computer falls right over [3022.14] Jack: The weight of the graphics card might have snapped the old [3026.04] Jack: pcie card [3030.26] Jack: Don't know who knows I'll find out I find out what happened [3033.94] Jack: Sounds terrific [3035.94] Jack: Troy and Victor [3038.18] Jack: I fixed my other friend's computer and uh, we had something which can only be described as bin ram [3044.9] Jack: Where I thought a piece of ram wasn't working and it turned out that it was actually the [3050.34] Jack: Um smaller size than I thought it was so we threw a stick of ram away that turned out was working and fine [3058.34] Jack: And we got it out of the bin [3060.5] Jack: So now the computer's working with more ram from a bin [3065.22] Jack: Bin ram [3066.42] Curry: Totally you guys in your bins. You're just getting it all from the bins. I'm going to start checking them out [3071.86] Jack: Yeah, like you know, well you got you got binned hardware, you know, like the the silicone lottery [3078.02] Jack: This is uh more stuff from a bin [3081.38] Jack: That shouldn't have been in a bin [3084.18] Curry: Be fair you put it in the bin in the first place. Yeah, I know [3087.46] Jack: Oh, it's like that was perfectly working kind of that [3090.98] Stephen: Look the way it goes. I did use to get computers out of bins when I was a student [3096.34] Jack: Yeah, that's the best place to get pc hardware [3100.74] Stephen: Yeah, because lots of people just have no idea how to fix anything so you can grab a deal [3104.9] Curry: Yeah, yeah, if you look at big company skips they throw out you get all sorts of decent stuff in there [3112.02] Curry: I remember throwing a pdp-11 in the skit. Although that's a little bit big to have in your house, but [3117.3] Curry: You can you could get it [3121.5] Jack: I need a power supply. So if anyone's got a power supply, let me know [3127.74] Jack: I mean 24 pin [3129.98] Jack: from the four pin cpu [3133.58] Stephen: Yeah, so when you say it powers up and doesn't be [3136.78] Stephen: Can often do it if one of those isn't do you have a second power supply to test it with? [3141.66] Jack: No, that's why I need a power supply. I did have a power supply. It stopped working [3146.62] Jack: balls [3150.36] Jack: the uh [3152.92] Jack: You don't go [3155.64] Koel: Are you about to make noises at all? I am I everything's back together. I just have to screw it back in [3161.56] Koel: um [3163.24] Koel: And well, I guess i'm gonna i'm gonna check for continuity first. Uh, well, I did i've already done it a few times [3169.08] Koel: But i'm gonna do it again. So [3171.88] Koel: Yeah, that was [3174.92] Koel: Pretty crazy. Um, yeah, so fingers crossed. Uh, pray for me guys. I pray that uh, [3184.68] Koel: You know [3186.36] Koel: Oh, no shorts [3188.76] Koel: No, sure. Oh, wait. Wait. Am I on the right setting? Hold on. I lied. I'm on the wrong settings. Come on, please. Don't be [3194.76] Koel: No, beeps. Yes. Oh wait one beat but that's just it going the other way around. Oh, no beeps [3199.8] Jack: Yeah, the long way around. Oh [3206.76] Koel: That is a bad sound isn't it [3209.56] Jack: Yeah, but if it's yeah, but are you pushing that into the [3217.32] Jack: Are you pushing that into [3220.36] Koel: I'll show you what i'm pushing it into [3222.52] Jack: Into the that will that be yeah, not not dc [3227.88] Jack: So that does not count [3229.88] Koel: Okay [3231.96] Jack: Cool [3234.2] Jack: All right, well the the check for continuity would have been the positive and negative rail of the battery [3241.4] Jack: Yeah, yeah, I already did that [3243.72] Stephen: Yeah, that's all good. Can you make can you make beeps and boops? [3247.72] Koel: Well, I need to get a power. Okay. Oh actually [3251.88] Jack: Yeah, we could we could always go a uh, a keyboard solo out of car. I reckon [3258.04] Koel: Yeah [3258.28] Koel: The one problem is I have to hook this up to an amp because there's no obviously built-in speakers [3262.28] Koel: And I actually have to reflash the um [3265.4] Koel: You have to reflash all the factory settings on it and I can't remember how to do it [3269.56] Koel: It's like a really weird way. I think it's through like I have to like [3274.12] Koel: send an audio signal into this [3276.52] Koel: uh [3277.88] Koel: I think I have to send an audio signal into this [3280.92] Koel: which then like [3282.68] Koel: Gives it all of its settings back. It's really weird. I don't know [3287.72] Stephen: It sounds like i'm short of a magic wand [3290.92] Koel: Yeah, I did it once and this was like six or seven years ago. Um [3296.52] Koel: but [3297.72] Koel: We'll see we shall see [3301.9] Curry: Sometimes you have to write these things down because you'll have to do them again eventually and you won't remember [3307.02] Koel: Yeah [3308.7] Koel: Yep, that's right. Oh and then i'm like, wait, what are these screws for? [3315.18] Jack: There you go. Caroline Taylor [3317.34] Jack: Is so much better electronics than me there's probably a cap and a transformer across it so it's showing continuity [3324.7] Koel: Okay, so i'll just open this up again then because you guys are my [3328.84] Koel: masters [3331.93] Koel: No, that's fine [3334.41] Koel: Ah, yes [3338.04] Koel: I mean the only thing I did was the battery so like it should [3343.0] Curry: Can I check? Welcome to let's talk about random electronics and computers because we ran out of drone stuff because we haven't been doing [3350.92] Curry: anything [3352.76] Jack: I know steven's holding up [3357.48] Stephen: I've done a small amount of flying. I've been [3360.68] Stephen: Sitting around watching william freakin movies and rebuilding network equipment. It's basically being what i've been doing [3369.56] Koel: But do you guys want to do you want to see my maddie flip I can I can very crapily show you [3376.76] Jack: Um, can you not share it? [3379.72] Stephen: Um, this is gonna be primo primo quality. Oh my word. Yeah, that's something rotated. We can tell [3387.48] Stephen: Wait, are you showing us a video of you filming a monitor on an iphone? Yeah. Yeah [3394.28] Curry: Maybe I could reach through this software [3397.48] Curry: This is literally inception we're watching somebody watching somebody [3402.28] Stephen: Yeah, you can't see [3406.68] Stephen: That's wonderful [3408.92] Stephen: Portrait mode as well. Like you're filming your computer monitor in portrait mode [3413.16] Koel: Yeah, and and actually remember how I was like, huh? Why do I have these screws over here? [3416.52] Koel: I wonder what they're for. Yeah, they're to hold down the pcb that I just took out of this damn synthesizer [3425.48] Koel: Good thing I decided to open it up again. Oh god. Oh dear [3430.44] Koel: The joy is the joys, right? [3433.4] Koel: Please tell me i'm not the only one who's done stuff like this. Oh, mate. Yeah [3437.24] Jack: Yeah, do all the time mate all the time. Yeah [3441.96] Jack: Well, yeah, that's uh, I knew anyone who says that that otherwise is a dirty liar [3448.6] Koel: Yeah [3451.24] Koel: I'm proud of myself for taking pictures. I mean that [3455.56] Koel: You know, there's I have a I try I think about [3459.0] Koel: One two, three four, five six seven eight nine ten eleven twelve thirteen. I have to take about 15 to 20 connectors out [3465.88] Koel: Just to get that pcb out of here. So [3468.84] Koel: Yeah, it was [3471.16] Koel: I mean then again, it's not that hard. Let's show make some beeps and boobs. Yeah. Yeah, I will I will show off this [3479.16] Koel: Well, you know fingers crossed it's working. But yeah, yeah [3483.08] Koel: Yeah, I will do that. I will the proof will be in the pudding as they say [3488.12] Stephen: Well, i've just set up [3490.04] Stephen: A new wireless router after having taken this [3494.2] Stephen: Cheaper one from aliex breads that came with redmi branding a prc [3501.0] Stephen: Xiaomi [3503.0] Stephen: router that arrived entirely in chinese and I was able to set that up [3508.04] Stephen: Enable telnet the custom firmware [3511.48] Stephen: Cracked password which is related to the serial number and then right flash onto it [3516.76] Stephen: So that little guy's working now, which is nice [3520.04] Stephen: So i've got quite a powerful wireless router [3523.4] Stephen: Nice non drone related things are happening. Well, at least something's happening [3529.77] Jack: Yeah [3531.61] Jack: Yeah transferable skills, mate [3534.41] Jack: Totally. I yeah sitting under here [3537.29] Koel: If I literally if I hadn't gone into drones, I would have never even dreamed dreamt of doing this [3543.93] Stephen: Black box not very exciting. But yeah, it was all in chinese, which was a [3548.41] Stephen: hard mode [3549.93] Stephen: Try and figure that out. So I ended up watching lots of youtube videos and holding up my phone to use google translate [3556.25] Stephen: On the web browser. What the hell? Oh, right. Yeah, this is the one with [3560.49] Stephen: The reason it's the advent password. This is the one that disable this option to avoid it automatically upgrading firmware. Okay. Yep. Yep [3567.05] Stephen: There we go. Go [3569.53] Jack: Cari's probably had the same trying to translate all this japanese games that [3575.45] Stephen: He's very imported special power attack hold this button for at least three seconds. Okay. Okay. Okay [3583.05] Curry: Yeah [3584.01] Curry: To an extent. Yeah, i've been i've been messing around i've been taking bits of ps2 network adapters apart so I can [3591.21] Curry: have a [3592.41] Curry: Sarter ps2 network adapter [3595.37] Jack: Instead which is not very exciting. I don't I don't think you even get a bit of a speed upgrade with that [3602.57] Curry: I think you don't but yeah, the thing is if you try and buy a new [3607.53] Curry: id disk these days [3609.69] Curry: You can't but you can buy like 300 [3612.97] Curry: Gig ssd for like 15 quid from ebuyer. So [3616.57] Jack: That becomes why didn't you say you wanted to? I know i've got loads of them up there if you want one [3621.53] Jack: I didn't know hadn't he? [3623.05] Jack: Yeah, I got loads or you've got an enclosure if you want some [3626.81] Jack: That's right [3628.81] Jack: Be quiet for anyone. I've got some genuine [3632.87] Jack: g4 id [3634.49] Jack: apple drives and the apple drive logo [3638.09] Jack: Which were higher capacity and faster speeds? [3642.41] Jack: If you want one, I'll contend you'll load [3645.69] Jack: You've got all my emo music on there [3650.12] Stephen: You could just run uh pcsx2 and uh [3653.48] Stephen: Forgo all that [3655.08] Jack: Yeah, true. Yeah emulation is the way forward [3658.6] Jack: That's boring [3660.28] Jack: I know isn't it some original hardware stephen original hardware [3666.28] Stephen: The original hardware you can take the guilt-free approach of just emulating it and not faffing with the actual hardware anymore [3674.04] Jack: when I like [3676.1] Jack: molesting the original hardware to make it do my bidding wearing cursing sweating over it [3682.92] Jack: yeah [3684.52] Jack: Well, i've got a dual dual oscillator to install now on my x stations and that'll be fun [3691.56] Jack: Watch me break my playstation [3695.8] Jack: I'll i'll give you an update on that next week [3697.96] Jack: Right. Unfortunately that is I reckon all we've got time for because we have been completely off topic today. I'm really sorry [3705.96] Jack: first [3709.16] Jack: Hopefully steven can pull out another fantastic [3714.3] Stephen: Uh guest. Well, steven won't be here next week. So, uh over to you guys [3719.82] Stephen: Oh, no steve [3721.9] Stephen: Curry are you here? [3724.38] Jack: Yep, yeah [3726.7] Jack: Frank isn't I don't think [3729.82] Stephen: All right, me and curry will find a guest it'll be uh jack and cole's cool 80s synth night [3737.98] Jack: Looking forward to that right? Uh, thank you. You've been listening to let show now [3743.1] Jack: You've been joined [3745.1] Jack: by [3746.06] Jack: Everyone's favorite curry kitten. Goodbye [3748.7] Jack: Uh, the man with the must-have steven. 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