=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 419 ===
Title: LDO 419 - Impromptu FPV DroneFest UK 2023 Review
Recorded: 2023-09-07
Hosts: Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Rohan "Failsafe" Clegg
Total audience: 1,133
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-fo0FEo09I); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1611055974-letsdroneout-ldo-419-impromptu-fpv-dronefest-uk-2023-review.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to what drone out and special thank you to our lovely patrons that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things we say massive thank you to Carlos campos.
[17.72] Frank: Sam dharma on with the show.
[20.52] Jack: Hello, and welcome. We are live. You're listening to let's run out tonight. You have got an intimate show with me and curry kitten.
[63.88] Jack: Join us get a glass of wine alone.
[66.96] Jack: Yeah, right. So it's the audience job of like making sure that we don't go on a complete winch fest.
[75.44] Jack: So we're gonna we're gonna talk. I've got the chat here. And as soon as we start winging like middle aged guys, let us know.
[86.72] Curry: You guys are even more middle aged than others.
[89.96] Curry: Yeah, we did talk about winging. But if we do that, stop us and feel free to make the direction of the show. Because we only had a couple of topics we thought about covering. And as my little
[105.6] Curry: thing down the bottom says I still haven't flown anything. I did drive an RC boat, which is very underwhelming review comes out tomorrow where I say this is boring.
[117.0] Curry: But hopefully, hopefully, we'll be getting on flying I did fit a brand new receiver to my old mini talent.
[123.76] Curry: And I'm trying to get this 14 channel ERS receiver from the FPV to work with an old flight controller. I've got the vector autopilot. And I've managed to make the receiver talk s bus and PWM at the same time.
[143.72] Curry: So it talks s buses like controller and I've got individual channel to talk to my pan servo. And I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to get RSSI working
[154.56] Curry: because it's like, it expects like something in the PPM stream, or expects a voltage between zero and 3.3 volts to indicate the RSSI level. That's how old it is. So that'd be interesting.
[167.64] Curry: Do you remember those days? You would remember those days because we never we never did that on quad, did we? That was an old, amazing AP thing for planes back in the day having having this voltage that would come out and indicate your, your RSSI.
[182.8] Jack: No, no, the the earliest I had that SWR malarkey with the Taranis and everything. And the my first transmitter was the turnigy x nine d or x nine. I don't know where that was x nine d. Yeah, x nine d. Yeah. And same same molds as the Taranis.
[212.8] Jack: And I successfully I failed my first attempt of modding it to put the the internal free sky little adapter kit in and because I was following the RC hackers tutorial of how to get the telemetry to the radio and it meant not reassigning pins and soldering jumpers and stuff.
[234.0] Jack: And I got it by the time I started radio see and there was spare broken x nine d's I picked one of those up and then successfully complete the mods on a new board.
[245.92] Jack: So by then I had the Taranis and I still have that radio and I went back and I cleaned up the mod as well, redone it with all the silicone wires and short cable runs and everything. So it was like pretty clean.
[265.52] Curry: Good work. I was I was interested. I got my Taranis out. Yeah, and I actually replaced I said last week I replaced the real time clock battery because I had my mini Talon mix on this. And I found this mix. And for the life of me, I'm like, what's what is this? And if I look at it, it says it is.
[288.92] Curry: I'll read you from my mix page channel seven source of Max, which is fine. It means when we we switch a button, we can assign it something when SP is up, which is this one up.
[304.23] Curry: It goes to a weight of 56.
[309.23] Curry: And I don't know what that is at all.
[312.23] Curry: The other channels pretty, pretty, pretty good because I've got two, two free position switches for doing various modes. But I've got this one thing is like if that's up there, then change channel seven waiting to 56. Don't know what that is.
[327.23] Curry: It's kind of like it's it's not on. It's not off. It's just a little bit past halfway. It's going to be an interesting flight, I think, going back to old models.
[339.74] Jack: Yeah, it's the turn of G9X. It's not a 9XD 9XD. I think it's the Taranis.
[347.74] Curry: Yeah, excellent ideas, Taranis. Yeah, sorry. Turn of G9X. Yeah, I had one of those. I put the
[353.74] Curry: Was it the Smarty Pass board?
[355.74] Curry: Yeah, so that.
[356.74] Curry: Yeah, I had one of those. So you could actually flash it with with ER9X at the time, which was just before OpenTX, wasn't it?
[365.74] Jack: Yeah, so mine has OpenTX. But unfortunately, they're like bugs got introduced. So then when I went to do that same mod for someone, the reassigning different switches to switches didn't work.
[386.74] Jack: And yeah, couldn't go back far enough to the working. Yeah, nightmare.
[395.74] Curry: Yeah, I've still got mine kicking around for some reason. I'm not sure why. But I use the I did the external one. It was quite interesting because the the original 9X that I got from Hobbyking had like the the fly sky module, but you couldn't take it out.
[416.02] Curry: Because it had an internal wire up to the antenna. They had to take it out and rip these bits out and stuff before you can actually put something back in it.
[429.02] Jack: Caroline, what happened with the mini drag? Did you put up a video? What happened?
[435.02] Curry: Yeah, I haven't seen a video yet. I saw the one of the the other wing that was a little bit like it, but not that one.
[446.02] Curry: Did it come back?
[450.83] Jack: Yeah. Did you see? Did you see Bruce's video about the remote ID patrols?
[459.83] Curry: I did. Because I
[462.83] Curry: Yeah, I replied to him about the I got the same message from YouTube and it was a bit ambiguous. But it's really interesting. YouTube sends you messages because great news. We're gonna we're gonna enhance your advertising by taking all the control away from you.
[478.83] Curry: It's like what now? And I was I was a bit confused as well, because I don't I don't like mid rolls. And I don't use mid rolls. I was like, I don't want mid rolls go my ads. I looked at it. And it seems like they're gonna it seemed like it was just pre and post. But it wasn't explicit enough if they were going to do anything about the
[498.83] Curry: The mid roll. So he's he's trying to get a response from that. And he said he's got nothing. Yeah, it was quite interesting. Bruce's video about our remote ID because he was kind of like, I, it's unlikely there's going to be like, swarms of people out. And it's kind of, I mean, we were just talking about earlier, weren't we? It's like, pretty much everybody that flies in this country and that's their flying at a club is doing something good.
[528.83] Curry: It's just like, oh, okay, they've just put another bit of illegality in there as well for us with this new remote ID thing should should we care? Or should it just like another thing not to bother with? It's hard to tell, isn't it?
[542.83] Curry: The I was just seeing Caroline's response, they're saying it sounds like the the ESC firmly shut down. So I guess you still had the back so you could use the the the servo. So you could at least glide it down somewhere. Now, Richard, Richard Warwick makes a good point there, because me and Jack was just talking about it.
[560.83] Curry: This before we came on, we were talking about offcom, offcom apparently, what was what was the apparent sentence for, like going over power and stuff? It was like, jail time. And it's like, I've never heard anybody find for flying without a spotter and I don't know what the answer to that.
[583.33] Curry: like going over power and stuff it was like jail time and it's like I've never
[590.17] Curry: heard anybody find for flying without a spotter and I've never seen anybody find
[595.17] Curry: by Ofcom for flying over 25 milliwatts the only people you hear about getting
[600.81] Curry: into trouble and the very obvious issues like drones over live football
[607.07] Curry: stadiums or oh I just want to take a picture of my friends flying off on
[611.25] Curry: holidays I'll follow their jet on that sort of really stupid bit yeah I'm just
[618.18] Jack: I don't know I'm waiting for the day really I'm just you know or you know you
[624.5] Jack: just get a dickhead cop who just wants to you know who's got got a bee in their
[631.34] Jack: bonnet and just doesn't like the look of you because you know I've experienced
[635.18] Curry: that you know just that time you got arrested for trying to open your own car
[639.58] Curry: door yeah yeah basically you do look like a ramen and no one would believe
[645.18] Curry: your car is your car because you look like a clown car trying to get into it
[648.18] Jack: yeah exactly so I don't know you know I still you know I still hear PS's off
[655.38] Jack: that you know you know my name is written down somewhere who knows the
[662.14] Curry: other thing mentioned that Bruce video which I picked up and I tried to do some
[666.46] Curry: research on it I don't know if anybody knows is about the export regulations
[672.14] Curry: from China about drone stuff generally it's like they wanted to restrict the
[679.38] Curry: export of drones their sort of point of view in it is like oh we don't want it
[684.58] Curry: being used in wartime politically China are quite aligned to Russia and it could
[690.18] Curry: be like oh they don't want Ukraine getting hold of the drones to keep
[693.38] Curry: blowing up Russian stuff and that sort of thing but I tried to get hard and
[699.38] Curry: fast facts about this doing a you know trying to use Google to try and actually
[705.22] Curry: pin down the document about what was restricted I really couldn't find it all
[709.58] Curry: I got was large drones capable of carrying a payload and flying a long
[715.46] Curry: distance but it really didn't it really didn't tell me you know a flight
[720.18] Curry: controllers gonna get export control a smaller DJI drone is gonna get
[724.94] Curry: controlled it's it's all a bit it's all a bit of vague I wondered if anybody knew
[729.58] Curry: any hard and fast facts there because I couldn't I couldn't find any am I right
[734.78] Jack: in thinking that that had been coming in for a long time you know yeah it was it
[741.06] Curry: was announced in August and it came into effect on the first of September
[746.3] Curry: apparently so it's it's been sort of active for a week now but it's just
[752.02] Curry: there was nothing I could find which sort of categorizes exactly what the
[757.46] Curry: restrictions would entail because you know it'd be right painting the office
[762.14] Curry: like every motor and every flight control and stuff if it's just like you
[765.3] Curry: know matrices then you don't care no no no the market for that's quite small but
[773.5] Curry: I think as we've seen in Ukraine they're using quite small drones both for
[781.22] Curry: spotting targets and going their little kamikaze bomb type drone things am I
[787.98] Jack: right in thinking that like they put in a rule where you couldn't do any
[794.62] Jack: government stuff with a drone that was China of China origin yeah that's in the
[802.38] Curry: US so the other the other question is is the US and that China are having a
[807.98] Curry: kind of a bit of a trade war if you like because when when that crazy guy came
[814.66] Curry: into power he basically thought China's bad we've got to stop China we got to
[819.42] Curry: introduce US coal and stuff oh you mean in Trump yeah I don't like to say what
[829.74] Curry: this is just just in case he comes yeah he is behind me like like a crazy yeah
[835.54] Curry: so you say he's named three times three times while looking in a mirror yeah so
[839.78] Curry: he's sort of bought that in and it's kind of stayed there so now this is fed
[845.26] Curry: into I don't know if it's hysteria or what but it's like no DJI stuff can be
[850.18] Curry: involved in government or military type stuff which is probably something put
[855.74] Curry: about by the sort of US military people trying to get their stuff sold but I
[860.98] Curry: suppose it's it's always a bit of a risk if you don't know exactly the the data
[866.94] Curry: going to and from what's going on if you start up a DJI drone there is there is a
[872.82] Curry: bunch of packets being sent off over the network somewhere to say something and
[877.38] Curry: we don't know what's going on but yeah so so the question is is this just like a
[883.06] Curry: response to the US versus China in sort of export controls or is this China sort
[892.66] Curry: of saying oh Russia of pounds in Russia don't want us having drones sent off to
[897.98] Curry: Ukraine there is apparently some some terms and conditions of these which say
[902.58] Curry: these these are not military drones and should be not used as such it's like
[906.02] Curry: well I don't know I don't think particularly I'm just having a
[910.22] Curry: recreational flight and I just happen to have a bomb strapped to the bottom
[913.02] Jack: of it you know I mean that was always the argument was that you know like
[919.7] Jack: anything can be a weapon if you try hard enough and you know that the main
[927.66] Jack: problem is you have a bomb the problem is not you have a drone it's like that's
[937.08] Curry: dangerous the problem is you have a bomb and that you know you can you could throw
[940.44] Curry: it you can put it in a van you can strap it to a dog as that or dolphin as
[945.28] Curry: things were in the past or you can attach you to a drone and blow things
[948.6] Curry: out that way yeah that's probably Caroline's saying I've heard big orders
[952.4] Curry: of FC etc will be blocked which sounds bad because flight controllers have gone
[957.76] Curry: up in price as it is let alone with new export controls coming in well sooner or
[968.75] Jack: later we're gonna have to be sort of like buying the flight controller without
[973.43] Jack: main chip on it and then having to reflow it on ourselves it'd be like the
[980.27] Curry: olden days I was like I'll get the KK board out again and we'll this is like
[985.75] Curry: high high value stuff now that's very big I've used a stick up like this can
[992.87] Jack: you imagine going back to that board it'll be like you know where they're
[997.79] Jack: like hacking bloody like appliances you know like scrapping external motors just
[1003.99] Jack: like your washing machine just to get it to work or you know or like making you
[1012.31] Jack: know a series of resistors that plug in the wall in order to charge people's
[1016.15] Jack: hearing aids it's a YouTube video I can't think of what it is but like yeah
[1023.71] Jack: back in there and they were like you was like it's all like lot you know
[1029.47] Jack: locked away from the the US and yeah imports and exports when a thing and
[1037.03] Jack: with like the sort of sort of you know making stuff work all right I keep
[1044.15] Curry: seeing like things pop up in my time like an Instagram or Facebook where like
[1049.67] Curry: someone in some country in Africa has made the drone but it's all made out of
[1052.91] Curry: cardboard because they've just like seen the picture night I'll try and do
[1056.35] Curry: that yeah that's probably not gonna fly to be fair well you know we're gonna
[1061.39] Jack: have to Marshall McFly is gonna be like you know winding motors for us stuff
[1070.31] Jack: like that making them from scratch yeah it's all doing like flight controllers
[1077.63] Jack: together for people by hand whoa sometimes it might be it might be good
[1085.55] Jack: though because that means that Dominic Clifton will be you know one of the
[1090.67] Jack: only people who will be able to import large amounts of flight controllers
[1096.27] Jack: because he's not in a conflict of interest you know place yeah that's it
[1106.59] Curry: your only source of flight controllers will be Dominic with his little pick and
[1110.19] Curry: place machine churning that as fast as he can yeah
[1113.79] Curry: I'll be funny but at least the OSD will be good are you up for you up for
[1118.95] Curry: chatting to fail safe for a bit sure I suppose whilst we're waiting for that
[1123.27] Curry: the other thing to mention this week is that just like FIFA games GoPro have
[1130.99] Curry: deleted the 1-1 and put in 1-2 of the camera which as far as I can tell looks
[1138.23] Curry: to be the exact same hardware you're almost the same spec I can't find
[1143.99] Curry: anything that says what's different I reckon they've just changed the software
[1148.67] Curry: because the resolution is the same or the modes seem the same they're saying
[1154.47] Curry: they can get more life out of the battery my GoPro let me down again this
[1160.39] Curry: week we just decided to do about half an hour recording without any sound at
[1163.83] Jack: all yeah I've got a completely quiet nothingness I've heard nothing but
[1173.51] Jack: complaints about these new GoPros and I work when it's too hot and I work when
[1179.15] Curry: it's too cold when I was in Canada last I turned it on and it filmed for nine
[1187.99] Curry: seconds and then said battery empty and it's just the fact it was cold and then
[1192.31] Curry: you go somewhere else in film and then it overheats within 10 minutes and stops
[1196.99] Curry: and my media mod seems to make it crash or not charge the battery or run the
[1206.07] Curry: battery down it's it's a nightmare which is why I was like I think I'm just going
[1210.99] Curry: to buy an Insta360 for my next camera it's not what I really use on the quad
[1215.55] Curry: but I use it for like when I'm out filming stuff so it's right pain in the
[1220.15] Curry: ass generally built-in RID chip in it I don't know
[1227.87] Curry: Stumps he's saying his 10 seems okay he's you haven't used it long enough how
[1232.79] Curry: come it's not overheated what are you been doing with it you just filming it
[1235.95] Curry: for three minutes at a time so I have had so many doesn't want to turn on
[1243.24] Curry: issues have to take the battery out and put it back together and then not
[1246.28] Curry: charging and then it corrupted a whole memory card my GoPro 7 was okay that's
[1253.4] Jack: what I use if I fly a quad these days yeah the 7 was great except the gyro
[1259.74] Jack: date was absolutely gobsh**t so then you can't use it with the real steady or
[1264.06] Jack: anything not that I would ever really do any of that no well me neither and the
[1270.74] Curry: the in inbuilt stabilization was good enough for me I think but I think what
[1278.26] Jack: happened you know the flickery sort of motioniness I don't think that what
[1288.58] Curry: happened is after the 7 and 8 they kept like saying oh look we can put new
[1292.66] Curry: features in here new features in here but they didn't think about the energy
[1296.9] Curry: that would take and the overhead on the processor and they're just like oh
[1301.18] Curry: process over here and shut down oh well it probably okay and it's just carried
[1306.5] Curry: on like that and they just keep introducing more and more features and
[1309.26] Curry: sort of let's go higher resolution let's go higher frame rates and let's keep the
[1312.86] Curry: processor exactly the same it's just like grinding it into the ground yeah
[1319.02] Jack: leftover processors and I what did you think of the like the the 11 mini did
[1327.58] Jack: that do anything for you or you just like meh it's not really because it's
[1332.9] Curry: like oh it's I had the original session but not this session 5 so I've still got
[1341.78] Curry: it the session it was just called the session back then yeah that was fine I
[1346.82] Curry: like the the size of it and stuff and I I flew it lots and I had this weird
[1353.42] Curry: crash where the entire back people were off and had to get it replaced which was
[1356.9] Curry: weird but um yeah that was that was a fine camera but like the 11 didn't do
[1363.34] Curry: anything for me because the 11 mini was heavier than the 7 I was like well
[1369.78] Curry: that's a bit pointless it's not really mini is it it's not like properly naked
[1375.78] Jack: hmm you know my my session fires man the batteries on them they're not great
[1382.1] Jack: they're not great anymore well shame you can't replace them probably could if I
[1388.66] Jack: tried hard enough maybe but I think I'd end up just destroying them you know and
[1395.26] Jack: I stripped I stripped my seven down to a naked and then you know that then I
[1401.98] Jack: found out the gyro data is actually garbage you couldn't use the the
[1407.62] Curry: steadiness on it so I was just like no I'm done I'm the same as stubsy stubsy
[1413.26] Curry: he has his like the latest GoPro that's his nice one and then the previous one
[1419.34] Curry: goes on the quads like he used to be my session my GoPro Hero 4 went on quads
[1425.02] Curry: but I had the session and then my now I've got the ten the seven go hello oh
[1432.46] Failsafe: you can hear me oh my gosh wow yeah you sound man yeah I spent like too much on
[1438.54] Jack: the microphone and yeah very clear hey damn sick well done are we live yeah
[1445.46] Jack: we're live yeah are you watching us oh yeah awesome yeah that is really cool
[1453.62] Jack: you do know you're the most excited anyone's been joining LDO before how was
[1463.42] Jack: for anyone listening this is fail safe I'll say I refused to call advise real
[1469.1] Jack: name you went to the FPV drone fest how was it yeah it went so well it was did
[1481.02] Failsafe: just everything happened what needed to happen a few hiccups there and there but
[1484.66] Failsafe: I think you know the 60 pilots we had going just absolutely loved it so yeah
[1489.22] Failsafe: the team smashed it yeah it was so good it went so well I think a favorite
[1497.34] Failsafe: moment would be at Saturday night in the social area where we just had Dean
[1501.82] Failsafe: holt back heath I don't if you heard of him he was doing a DJ set and I think
[1506.26] Failsafe: that was just amazing there was only really me there like I was sort of
[1511.46] Failsafe: commentating for that because we had loads of whoops we'd like a whoop area
[1514.62] Failsafe: and then yeah I was also helping out in there that's probably the favorite
[1521.5] Failsafe: moment it did rain on the Saturday for a tiny bit we did like predict it would
[1527.02] Failsafe: rain all day Saturday and things like that because the weather wasn't looking
[1529.38] Failsafe: great but he only rained for like 30 minutes and then it was all fine so yeah
[1533.82] Curry: than that and really well so the stuff they had set up which was pretty cool
[1540.06] Curry: because it was all sort of you know it was a I want to say paintball but that
[1544.46] Curry: was the old-fashioned way what's the the shooting thing now it's something else
[1547.86] Curry: isn't it shoot was airsoft so it had it had all these sort of little bit like
[1554.1] Curry: porter cabins and stuff and it looked like it was quite tight on a five inch
[1559.3] Curry: to sort of get through in and around those things how did you actually find
[1562.5] Failsafe: that the flying yeah so it was it was proper tight you're right it was a lot
[1568.26] Failsafe: smaller of a site than we had last year so the site we had last year was a
[1572.26] Failsafe: clipstone corollary sort of in the middle and somewhere I don't exact
[1576.54] Failsafe: location somewhere in Cambridge or something that was a last site I wasn't
[1581.06] Failsafe: heavily involved with that one I kind of just tied up as a pilot but this time we
[1585.78] Failsafe: yeah we're at airsoft site so it was quite a bit tighter than the last year's
[1591.3] Failsafe: stuff but the benefit of that is is that we had there wasn't any sort of
[1596.18] Failsafe: unreachable places because last year there was plenty of times where people
[1599.5] Failsafe: were getting stuck on like massive high buildings in fact I lost a drone the
[1603.14] Failsafe: very top of one of the chimney tower things at the very top platform and I
[1608.32] Failsafe: wasn't able to get it back so that's one five inch drone just gone but yeah it
[1613.18] Failsafe: was surprisingly pretty good there was you know I don't think we had that many
[1616.74] Failsafe: crashes but when people did crash they didn't break they really didn't break
[1620.02] Failsafe: much they broke props because it's all wooden it's not really concrete or
[1623.98] Failsafe: metal or anything they can really break something on so I don't think many
[1627.26] Failsafe: people broke stuff it was mainly just sort of props we had around around 600
[1631.86] Failsafe: sets from gem fan that sent us for sponsor the festival so you know we were
[1636.38] Failsafe: just constantly giving away prizes we had a whole night of where we literally
[1640.18] Failsafe: just spinning a wheel and then we were just giving away you know oh so on this
[1644.42] Failsafe: land on this person we just gave away something random like a beater or
[1648.02] Failsafe: FPV or one of our sponsors sent us we just gave so much away like you know
[1653.78] Failsafe: we're having people winning I was free GoPro here 11 minis giving away there
[1658.98] Failsafe: was Insta 360 there giving away stuff all sponsors were yeah just just constant
[1665.3] Failsafe: giveaways and stuff like that and challenges yeah that's really good so
[1672.18] Curry: yeah I watched a bit of a video from I forgot who was some I think one of the
[1678.34] Curry: camera sponsors made a video and I saw that yes almost everybody appeared to be
[1683.3] Curry: on DJI goggles was was there a mix of analog and different digital stuff or
[1689.94] Failsafe: was it all pretty much DJI yeah there was quite a lot of digital there was a
[1694.54] Failsafe: fair bit of analog as well to be honest a surprise the amount of people that are
[1697.7] Failsafe: on analog you know it's a very mix a bunch of people a couple of walks now
[1701.66] Failsafe: as well and we all pretty much all got along well there was a slight issue
[1706.46] Failsafe: though in that I think we had 10 some 10 or something we just kind of
[1710.22] Failsafe: misunderstood we didn't really do a lot of research into the channels because I
[1714.02] Failsafe: think one of the tents was getting blown out or some having problems with
[1717.54] Failsafe: o3 or something one of the channel tents we had like basically each tent was
[1721.34] Failsafe: separated in channels so we had you know channel one channel two and that was
[1724.86] Failsafe: about five flight lines I think and then we had that each of them had around 10
[1729.1] Failsafe: 15 people in them because we had sort of 60 pilots and total plus other people
[1734.06] Failsafe: as well yeah overall they went really well into the channels I think there was
[1738.34] Failsafe: yeah like I say other than that slight hiccup then I think generally everyone
[1742.3] Failsafe: was pretty happy yes Richard Roy she's been a chap oh for that was it yeah that
[1747.18] Failsafe: was the tent I wasn't I didn't actually fly I didn't bring a single drone I was
[1750.82] Failsafe: there simply I was just doing music for the whole thing like I was just
[1755.1] Failsafe: constantly trying to figure out what songs to play for an entire day for like
[1759.06] Failsafe: four days or something on three four days I was trying to mix it up so it's
[1762.98] Failsafe: really difficult to play music all day and like keep it interesting keep songs
[1767.5] Failsafe: that people are gonna want to play here and that was kind of my sort of goal was
[1771.7] Failsafe: the music and the PA so you will step in where we could you know go around 12
[1777.7] Failsafe: people as organizers or something we're all helping out the flight lines were
[1781.18] Failsafe: run really well as well we had we had people going out there to collect the
[1784.64] Failsafe: drones emotional damage yes yeah so I bought actually this this thing right
[1790.32] Failsafe: here this roadcaster duo which I bought and of course you can assign buttons and
[1797.16] Failsafe: sound effects so I signed like one of them which is like emotional damage in
[1801.2] Failsafe: fact I might be able to play it now hang on
[1804.44] Failsafe: yeah so that was one of the town effects we just constantly playing and
[1816.48] Failsafe: we had like air horn as well which I was playing and like for example we did a
[1820.56] Failsafe: challenge and someone just crashed or something I would just be pressing that
[1824.56] Failsafe: button it was so fun we had this youngest pilot there Ethan FPV I think
[1830.44] Failsafe: he's only like eight and he was absolutely just absolutely insane the
[1835.32] Failsafe: things that you know just so you can do is ridiculous and he was there just with
[1839.24] Failsafe: me pretty much put constantly wanting to push the buttons on the thing she's
[1844.4] Failsafe: constantly letting off sound effects yeah it was good it was really good I can't
[1848.96] Failsafe: be easy playing music all day exactly yeah yeah I did I watch on and I did oh
[1855.32] Failsafe: sorry yeah sorry guys I mean I'm wearing headphones too but it's probably not
[1859.72] Failsafe: cranked up as much but yeah it was really hard like the one thing the one
[1865.48] Failsafe: thing you've got to do is just just keep it interesting all day and yeah playing
[1870.16] Failsafe: all that music all day was just a lot of work surprisingly I did like 20 I think I
[1874.92] Failsafe: did like 25,000 steps one day just like we're pacing around like behind the
[1879.28] Failsafe: mixing desk about stuff I did yeah that's really good yeah like didn't just
[1887.44] Jack: go to Spotify like FPV I did yeah the issue with it as well was Spotify and my
[1895.16] Failsafe: data signal I'm I was with Vodafone we just actually switched to EE because of
[1899.2] Failsafe: how bad it was that weekend I literally got no signal at all
[1902.36] Failsafe: throughout the festival location and everyone else could so I was the one you
[1906.96] Jack: have my phone connected Vodafone is one of the best back in the day supposedly
[1911.08] Failsafe: yeah on the area is it does so flaky yeah and that's someone else on Vodafone
[1918.04] Failsafe: who actually was hot-spotting off of to play the music and they were fine so yeah
[1922.36] Failsafe: I don't know if it's my phone or whatever but yeah it is the fact that we didn't
[1926.6] Failsafe: have much data signal and luckily we what we did was before the festival we
[1931.88] Failsafe: sort of put them on the FPV drone fest Facebook group you know we created a
[1935.88] Failsafe: playlist on Spotify and put your songs in there which you want to go on you
[1940.8] Failsafe: know want to be played at the festival and basically just set that playlist off
[1944.24] Failsafe: on shuffle just playing all the songs from there so yeah that's that's kind of
[1951.64] Failsafe: what a menu did and then I put in because there were some random songs in
[1954.64] Failsafe: there like someone added like Spongebob Squarepants and all this stuff into it
[1957.76] Failsafe: I was like okay maybe not play that but yeah there was some random stuff in
[1963.64] Failsafe: there but we tried to mix up as well we had like you know a whole section I was
[1967.32] Failsafe: like thinking it's just catering for that wide audience as well so we had a
[1970.84] Failsafe: whole section I was like look there's this guy next to me called Ed who came
[1974.84] Failsafe: he's quite into metal when I was like okay look you can can you take control
[1978.44] Failsafe: the music for like you know 20 minutes let's have a 20 minute session of just
[1981.24] Failsafe: metal and it went really well because it just he just catered for so many
[1985.72] Failsafe: different people what they're into this is what I think went so well about it
[1991.56] Curry: yeah the music went really well that's that's a good question actually for that
[1995.88] Curry: just for the chat here and for you if I'll say the people listen to music while
[1999.8] Curry: they fly I know a lot of freestyle pilots tend to do this to get into the
[2003.96] Curry: group I have I have always been completely silent in my ears in terms of
[2009.2] Curry: me flying around what about the rest of you guys oh we like well when we go out
[2015.0] Failsafe: in groups we do have you know occasional bluetooth speaker just playing random
[2019.24] Failsafe: you know songs that people like and I think it is a nice thing to abuse when
[2022.52] Failsafe: you're flying because it you kind of in some songs as well particularly you know
[2026.84] Failsafe: you can kind of fly to the song which is really cool and it just helps you get
[2030.84] Failsafe: you know just I just see Coraline's putting a chat no I'm concentrating too
[2036.2] Failsafe: much yeah there's that side of it as well but I feel I quite like it but I do
[2039.72] Failsafe: find it can be a bit distracting like particularly if you you know if you're
[2042.68] Failsafe: flying some location and you know there's people walking around the Bando as
[2046.04] Failsafe: well and you need to hear your surroundings and then it's not great but
[2050.04] Failsafe: then again if you got bluetooth speaker or something and that's more than fine
[2053.24] Failsafe: but yeah I think definitely definitely it can drown out the streams I think
[2058.36] Curry: that's gonna be a good thing but yeah it's like for people that exercise or
[2063.0] Curry: run that often you go with a very specific BPM to keep your your running
[2069.16] Curry: beat to and I don't know how that transfers into FPV it's like I've got to
[2072.44] Curry: keep looping on the beat 120 BPM just like constantly there yeah this episode
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[2103.88] Jack: forward slash let's drone out I um uh randomly speaking of music I
[2111.64] Jack: walked past someone was like nice shirt they had uh you know the beat ribbon
[2115.8] Jack: bunny oh a t-shirt you know the ps1 game curry that you like
[2123.4] Curry: beat rhythm ribbon ribbon yeah oh nice
[2129.08] Jack: yeah then I was like oh yeah yeah then I was like oh and he was like
[2136.52] Jack: the first person he's like mate you're the first person who's ever like known
[2140.36] Jack: what that is and I was like I felt bad because I
[2144.04] Jack: obviously I don't play it I know it from you
[2146.36] Jack: to learn behavior you should play it it's good
[2150.28] Jack: uh whether I'd be but yeah I I've got the um
[2156.52] Jack: little uh bluetooth speaker that I carry around with me
[2160.6] Jack: um went went flying and I obviously had it's a bit dated
[2168.28] Jack: regarding the music because it was all kind of like
[2171.48] Jack: bit sort of like open like royalty free but sort of dubstep ish
[2177.64] Jack: from um you know like the flight videos and stuff and back when like
[2184.44] Jack: rote right was good and stuff and uh
[2189.8] Jack: you know we were obviously like playing all that sort of stuff
[2192.52] Jack: on the early days of the on the Thursday night show
[2196.92] Jack: back when ldo first started so I don't know where the
[2200.52] Jack: I mean fair say probably wasn't even born then
[2203.8] Jack: curry definitely hadn't joined just by then I don't know whether you tuned in to
[2207.32] Jack: listen to any of that back in the day I hadn't heard of
[2212.12] Jack: you since you sent me that bizarre email oh the badly written email it worked
[2216.84] Jack: though it worked hang on I will be back curry
[2221.72] Curry: cover for me I will carry on so is that am I right in thinking that's
[2228.36] Curry: the idea is to use that site again for next year
[2231.8] Failsafe: we are considering it yes um there's something we're considering
[2235.72] Failsafe: um it did work really well we did have you know we had a camping area
[2239.8] Failsafe: it was quite well set up in that we had you know we had proper toilets this year
[2243.96] Failsafe: like last year the toilets were just horrendous
[2246.36] Failsafe: like we had two things and yeah anyways you get a picture
[2249.72] Failsafe: but yeah there was we had we had showers built
[2253.08] Failsafe: as well by members of the team because basically
[2256.28] Failsafe: that was probably last year we only had one shower so we kind of improved upon
[2259.24] Failsafe: that in next this year so we had two showers we spent a bit
[2262.76] Failsafe: of money out of the budget to build um an awesome awesome team uh that is
[2267.56] Failsafe: mamba fpv and chase fpv um they're both composers they both built
[2271.88] Failsafe: showers for the event um those work took quite well
[2274.92] Failsafe: um so yeah the the facilities there were really good we had um also
[2281.24] Failsafe: food as well um you know we had food there um
[2285.88] Failsafe: yeah there's a there's definitely things we can improve on like
[2289.08] Failsafe: bigger camping area because we we kind of um had these like we're all based in
[2294.52] Failsafe: the woods basically we're camping in the woods
[2296.44] Failsafe: where you know there was trees everywhere and there's it wasn't particularly
[2299.56] Failsafe: great some of the areas for camping but that's
[2301.48] Failsafe: something we're looking to improve on next year and we're already sort of
[2304.44] Failsafe: going through the feedback and figuring out how we can improve it and
[2307.32] Failsafe: but yeah i think we potentially will be back next year but
[2310.28] Failsafe: that's not confirmed yet but we are going to be looking to um
[2315.16] Failsafe: starting to arrange the next festival because yeah this one's been a huge
[2318.84] Failsafe: success um you know he's got so much
[2322.44] Curry: positive feedback from it um that's cool so i think the culinary was
[2327.0] Curry: a sort of epic side but not so good if you can't recover
[2331.32] Curry: things from it and uh they break a lot fortunately
[2335.32] Failsafe: um yeah every drone no we didn't lose any drones this year at
[2341.56] Failsafe: all i don't think um so in terms of recovery it was good
[2345.48] Failsafe: um but and it really worked quite well yeah
[2348.84] Failsafe: i i don't think that was much of an issue especially compared to last year
[2351.96] Failsafe: that was definitely definitely better um but i think next year what we're
[2355.96] Failsafe: planning on doing is sort of helping out in terms of the spectators
[2360.92] Failsafe: the spectator part of it because we didn't really have any screens for
[2364.2] Failsafe: spectators to watch you know it was all sort of watching is it live
[2367.0] Failsafe: so that's actually something um perhaps speak to Cerberus actually and who's in
[2370.92] Failsafe: the chat about um potentially looking into ways we can
[2374.6] Failsafe: sort of promote or stream it or because i know there's
[2377.72] Failsafe: certain regulations in in streaming like i'm pretty sure you have to have a
[2382.04] Failsafe: license or something to stream video from an event i might be wrong but
[2386.36] Failsafe: yeah we're gonna be hopefully looking into that next year and maybe having an
[2389.88] Failsafe: outdoor display as well so having it so we can you know
[2392.76] Failsafe: spectators can actually properly see people's live feeds on this massive
[2397.72] Failsafe: outdoor display i think that'll be really cool
[2399.48] Failsafe: something we need to look into um but yeah
[2402.68] Failsafe: um maybe potentially have some races next year as well but
[2405.8] Failsafe: that's just an idea perhaps you have to be
[2409.24] Curry: from live dj to live uh av nixer the only thing is i think it's i think
[2417.64] Curry: watching people's streams pretty good but to sort of really get the um
[2422.12] Curry: the sort of essence of the whole thing i think
[2425.0] Curry: things have to be quite quite carefully cut together don't they
[2428.2] Curry: in these sort of programs on tv it's like very
[2431.0] Curry: very much pre-recorded then let's cut this to make the angles exciting
[2434.76] Curry: at least at least when it's not right uh racing people can see what's happening
[2438.68] Curry: because if you a member of the public sees the average
[2441.8] Curry: race and they're just saying what what's going on who's winning
[2447.64] Curry: who's in the lead i don't understand it is just seeing
[2450.44] Curry: uh bizarre stuff at least with freestyle it's a bit more like oh they can't
[2454.12] Curry: possibly fit through that gap oh my god they go oh they can
[2457.8] Failsafe: yeah it's it was the whole thing was a massive success you know we got
[2462.04] Failsafe: um all the authorizations do it we did it properly um we got
[2465.48] Failsafe: bmfa authorization and regulation you know stuff i'd had to do it
[2469.4] Failsafe: um we didn't like this whole thing you know
[2472.44] Failsafe: um it was about i think the pilot tickets we sold out
[2475.4] Failsafe: like in the first day which is just ridiculous you know
[2478.44] Failsafe: 60 pilot tickets these were out i think we did an early bird sales there were
[2481.88] Failsafe: about 130 quid each and they all sold out in a day which is
[2484.92] Failsafe: quite surprised us to be honest we're all kind of hyped up about that
[2487.8] Failsafe: but the important thing is as well we're not like we're doing this for the
[2491.0] Failsafe: community we're doing this for the hobby we're not here to make any money at all
[2494.36] Failsafe: none of us have made any money uh from this
[2496.92] Failsafe: and any any money we're making he's going back into the next year festivals
[2500.76] Failsafe: make it bigger and better and so we'll prove
[2502.68] Failsafe: upon that um and yeah that's something i want to put across but um
[2507.96] Failsafe: yes i'll definitely like i'll definitely hit you up for next year
[2510.6] Failsafe: because that'd be you'll be awesome to get on the team with
[2513.88] Failsafe: our team um i'll see and speak to other guys but
[2516.92] Failsafe: yeah helping out in that way getting stream do some streaming that'd be really
[2520.68] Failsafe: cool i think so that just other people that didn't
[2523.16] Failsafe: make it can can uh watch because i think we're kind of limited to the amount of
[2528.36] Failsafe: pilots we can actually have spectating uh oh sorry flying you know you know can
[2533.08] Failsafe: you have so many people up at the air at once and
[2535.56] Failsafe: um it's difficult as well because you know if you're paying
[2539.64] Failsafe: whatever for a ticket you kind of want to have as much flight time we don't want
[2543.08] Failsafe: to get as many people flying up in the air as possible and getting as
[2545.48] Failsafe: many packs for as possible just to make it worth it
[2547.88] Failsafe: but for sort of flying um so you know if we have like
[2551.56] Failsafe: say 120 people for example then this is going to really don't even less
[2555.0] Failsafe: flight time for people so i think 60 was a good number
[2557.96] Curry: for the pilots it's it's nicely organized back in back in the
[2561.32] Curry: olden days about 10 years ago we used to do meets
[2564.28] Curry: we we topped it out 12 to 15 people and we we maybe got five or six people in
[2570.44] Curry: the air flying at a time and that was only because we mixed up people flying
[2574.04] Curry: on 5.8 and 1.2 and and 2.4 so to have
[2578.44] Curry: groups of people that were all in and like i'm a half four and i'm on
[2583.32] Curry: a one or whatever and just like it's your turn to go
[2586.52] Curry: is is a really nice idea of getting everybody
[2589.88] Curry: maximize their flight time i i like that i think that's nice organization as you
[2593.8] Curry: say you double up the number of people it
[2595.72] Curry: means you half the flight time so it does have a ceiling limit there
[2600.12] Failsafe: and also yeah all the you know all the facilities as well the park car parking
[2604.6] Failsafe: area as well you know we already we had a day where we were like asking
[2608.44] Failsafe: people i think some people didn't park really in the right place
[2611.0] Failsafe: and they were kind of blocking everyone but you know in terms of actual parking
[2614.36] Failsafe: stuff as well that was somewhat an issue some in some cases because
[2618.36] Failsafe: then we only had like a car park and everyone was you know of course everyone
[2622.12] Failsafe: wanted to bring their sort of camper vans and everything and
[2624.68] Failsafe: um that you know if we have more people and that's going to put more pressure on
[2628.04] Failsafe: that on that side thing um but yeah like overall i think that
[2632.92] Failsafe: was a really sweet uh 60 is like a nice sweet spot i think
[2636.76] Failsafe: um maybe potentially a few more but yeah that was a good number for us
[2641.4] Curry: i think for that yeah as you're saying it'd be cool if you can get um
[2647.0] Curry: because you know spectators that come in the cars that the the pilots
[2651.56] Curry: come in don't add any extra pressure apart from perhaps toilets and showers
[2655.4] Curry: yeah you get them if you can get them interested in and having things to
[2658.76] Curry: to watch that's that's always fantastic to watch
[2662.04] Failsafe: and to do as well yeah to do so sort of activities get them
[2665.24] Failsafe: sort of more involved in flying you know having
[2668.76] Failsafe: we did have a whoop area uh which was members it's called members madness
[2672.68] Failsafe: which was in the forest and we had a dedicated newbie drone
[2675.4] Failsafe: uh helped sponsor that they had like sort of gates and and stuff like that to
[2679.24] Failsafe: set up a whoop area and that worked really well i wasn't there for most of
[2682.36] Failsafe: that but yeah i think that was a really cool
[2685.0] Failsafe: thing to have and we had people flying whoops
[2687.4] Failsafe: look at the same time as flight lines because obviously we're in the in the
[2689.96] Failsafe: woods and it didn't really interfere much with the
[2692.44] Failsafe: flight lines we can still have them get up at once i think is what we did
[2695.56] Failsafe: or we had them up on one channel i think which weren't being used but yeah
[2698.92] Failsafe: getting people more people into the hobby i think that's just gonna be the
[2701.96] Failsafe: goal um i'll send people in to send in the
[2704.68] Failsafe: chat uh oh curiously how many drones did you
[2708.12] Failsafe: take and what type mainly i guess you're asking me that question
[2711.8] Failsafe: um i as in to drone fest or just in general
[2716.68] Failsafe: like i didn't take any drones to drone fest because i had like in our car we
[2720.76] Failsafe: had all the pa equipment to bring as well we had my parents
[2723.88] Failsafe: go and stay at my grandparents house in birmingham um
[2727.0] Failsafe: so we didn't we have much space in the car to to bring anything else i didn't
[2730.36] Failsafe: space i just didn't bring my fpv gear because i just knew i'd be doing
[2733.4] Failsafe: festival stuff so i didn't fly at all but in terms of when i did you feel you
[2737.56] Curry: missed out on it did you like i could fly that i would like
[2741.4] Failsafe: well we had a we had um a couple of weeks ago
[2744.84] Failsafe: before the festival we had like a uh sort of all the organizers went down a
[2749.96] Failsafe: week early to shoot promo stuff so we had a week of flying and i did get
[2754.04] Failsafe: i brought video out my instagram uh flying the drone fest site so i've
[2757.32] Failsafe: already kind of already flown it as well so it wasn't too big of a deal like if i
[2760.84] Failsafe: hadn't flown it at all then yeah i probably would have bought my
[2763.24] Failsafe: drones but um yeah that like oh i wasn't too
[2766.44] Failsafe: bothered to be honest because i know i just had a
[2768.92] Failsafe: i was already busy enough doing what i need you know what i was doing
[2772.04] Failsafe: i had like i was doing obviously the dj stuff but also i was sort of helping out
[2775.24] Failsafe: the content as well doing some filming um and
[2778.12] Failsafe: taking pictures so i was it's kind of quite busy with that
[2781.8] Failsafe: but yeah i usually take around two drones usually i went on the
[2787.0] Failsafe: creation trip which is a couple months back i took around
[2789.8] Failsafe: yeah three drones and he broke i think he broke two of them
[2793.0] Failsafe: um one was left all good but yeah he was usually around three
[2797.16] Failsafe: or two um but i my drones at the minute are kind of in a quiet estate because
[2802.52] Failsafe: i haven't really recovered from boyisha yeah that and also just the less the
[2808.68] Failsafe: such less time i've got now i'm working because
[2811.64] Failsafe: you know when i come home work it's just pretty much pitch black outside or you
[2815.48] Failsafe: know it's i'm just quite tired and don't want
[2817.56] Failsafe: you want to do anything so yeah it's definitely like
[2821.96] Failsafe: died you know instead of my involvement with the hobby and things it's
[2825.24] Failsafe: definitely since i got a job it's a bit annoying but yeah
[2830.44] Failsafe: oh it's hypo in the chat hello hypo what a legend
[2833.64] Failsafe: yeah i don't i can i don't know if i could talk a bit about creation for a
[2837.08] Failsafe: bit i don't know yeah man yeah um creation trip well you
[2841.96] Failsafe: guys actually we were doing a podcast didn't we with all of us in
[2846.04] Failsafe: creation with steven there and i think everyone had an amazing
[2849.24] Failsafe: time in fact hypo was one of the pilots that came as well
[2852.2] Failsafe: and it was yeah it was so good we we went on a full road trip to from um uk to
[2859.16] Failsafe: cretia so we went through germany we went first fee for the netherlands
[2862.68] Failsafe: then uh no belgium the netherlands then austria and then cretia and yeah it was
[2869.88] Failsafe: like fyco said it was so good um yeah i i wish i wish we could stay
[2875.08] Failsafe: the longer um it's particularly in the out because
[2877.4] Failsafe: this is an absolutely beautiful place um and i wish i would have bought a long
[2880.6] Failsafe: range drone for that if you go into the Alps
[2882.68] Failsafe: make sure you bring a long range drone um because there's yeah there's so much
[2886.84] Jack: you can do um i mean building something bespoke like
[2891.16] Failsafe: designed just for that job though oh yeah oh and something yeah you do to
[2897.32] Failsafe: be honest it's yeah but yeah yeah um we met up with
[2902.52] Failsafe: phillip and now i don't know if you guys have seen the lego build video that
[2906.6] Failsafe: phychek or phillip rudelik's done but he's basically done a stopmation
[2910.28] Failsafe: animation of these lego figures building like um a super fly drone and it is the
[2916.92] Failsafe: best build video you'll ever see i'll have to share it with you guys
[2920.28] Failsafe: um to potentially play but yeah it's he spent like a whole year doing it
[2925.32] Failsafe: and uh oh well i'll send you a link yeah phillip's one of the guys is in
[2930.97] Failsafe: cretia and he's sort of our tour guide i guess he
[2933.85] Failsafe: showed us around all the spots he went he helped us out last year as well
[2938.86] Jack: there we go so we get in the chat dominant clifton says i learnt to fly in
[2943.5] Jack: the alps i built my acro disco there acro disco are
[2949.98] Curry: we talking about the disco quad the tbs big thing that had the 450 um and that
[2955.66] Jack: was an acro one flex in it yeah man was that like to
[2960.14] Jack: play acro like anything it was crazy check this out
[2966.38] Failsafe: so here we can currently see a stop motion animation
[2970.38] Failsafe: of phillip uh building a super fly drone and there's all these
[2974.06] Failsafe: these lego figures that he's it's just amazing um they're painting the
[2979.58] Failsafe: edges of a car painting the edge of the quad
[2982.06] Failsafe: assembling the air unit unboxing the motors
[2986.06] Jack: there's yoda using the force and everything look at this he's using the
[2989.66] Failsafe: light sabers on back oh chopping the wires look you will see
[2995.5] Failsafe: he also uses the lightsaber to solder as well
[2999.02] Failsafe: uh genius painting the edges of the carbon as well
[3002.7] Jack: was am i right in thinking this is incredible
[3005.98] Jack: by the way am i right in thinking that was a uh sky star as a se
[3011.02] Failsafe: uh i think it's a t-motor one actually look at that watch this
[3014.78] Failsafe: using using even using the lightsaber as a solder
[3017.58] Failsafe: oh the attention to detail but look chopping the wires so good
[3025.74] Curry: one by one oh man this guy had too much time on his hands
[3032.86] Jack: mate that would drive me insane trying to do that bit by bit yeah
[3043.66] Jack: oh my word oh i'd see c3po sweeping away the excess wires
[3052.54] Jack: this is amazing this is so good remind me i'll have to add the the
[3059.79] Jack: the link to that in the show notes i'm gonna see if i can get him in the chat
[3063.71] Failsafe: now so he can provide you comments so this is
[3066.43] Failsafe: this is the one of the bandos we went to in korea it's um
[3069.47] Failsafe: it's called the neck we call it the mega bando it's basically a half built
[3072.67] Failsafe: hospital in zagreb just in a minute mute the audio man oh yeah we're gonna
[3078.59] Failsafe: get copyright on me um yeah this is this is the mega bando
[3082.91] Failsafe: you'll see here he's flying that um oh yes this is one where steven just
[3087.31] Curry: went down the corridor down the corridor yeah
[3091.39] Jack: yeah did he make it to the end of the corridor without losing video
[3097.07] Failsafe: yeah yeah you can yeah you can do that um obviously you've got to keep
[3101.07] Failsafe: your goggles parallel with the corridor so any sort of
[3104.51] Failsafe: offset you have with it or if you know if you're to one side you're just gonna
[3107.39] Failsafe: have the signal block but yeah yeah you can easily make it throughout
[3110.83] Failsafe: um as long as you're sort of in a straight line
[3113.79] Jack: this is crazy that is some hardcore flying oh
[3119.95] Jack: it's gonna say after doing all of that that wasn't the quad that he crashed
[3126.83] Failsafe: i think it was i think he put a comment in the chat the other day actually
[3130.19] Failsafe: saying um how are you know he's just built this
[3132.75] Failsafe: you find he's now you know how it's all just completely
[3135.87] Failsafe: well you know bashed in bashed up yeah here's another spot called we call it
[3141.79] Failsafe: pillar paradise it's another one in croatia yeah
[3144.67] Failsafe: just an absolutely insane spot very geometric
[3148.27] Jack: so when he been asked you a question gary kitten
[3151.47] Jack: have you answered oh did you yeah it's just a claim this is uh
[3157.07] Curry: this is a cartridge for the vectrix you can get where it will use the vectrix
[3160.67] Curry: screen up here so proper vector screen and the
[3163.87] Curry: cartridge itself will emulate uh a star wars arcade machine but using
[3168.11] Curry: the actual vectors of the vectrix screen to do it that way
[3171.39] Curry: which looks pretty amazing although albeit in a single
[3175.07] Curry: single color but uh really nice did you mind to get the snares up and
[3179.39] Curry: running without going too much off topic uh
[3183.23] Curry: i've got the new snares running and i just got a new RGB cable for it but i
[3186.91] Curry: have to fix the old one and i'm using the fix of the old one
[3190.43] Curry: to decide if i can mod the new one because
[3193.31] Curry: the newer one is a single chipped version which is uh
[3196.59] Curry: a lot nicer video uh but i don't want to screw it up
[3200.35] Curry: by modding it incorrectly so i'll go back and try mod the other one first
[3204.43] Curry: fix it you got it after and running the new one's running but it's only
[3209.39] Curry: running in 50 hertz so i haven't done the the 60 hertz mod on it the old one no i
[3215.23] Jack: still need to go back and solder i ordered um the american director's cut
[3222.99] Jack: and they sent it and they put blue painters tape to hold the disc in
[3228.19] Jack: and as i peeled it off um so yeah spent quite a bit on uh
[3237.47] Jack: of buying this disc and as you can see i peeled it ever so carefully
[3242.11] Jack: but that last that last little bit no just pour the silk screen off it
[3250.19] Curry: look at that pain everybody knows in order to hold the disc in tissue paper
[3256.35] Jack: then you close it that keeps it in yeah like unfortunately that's all
[3261.07] Jack: pretty much we've got time for um where it's been great it's been lovely
[3268.51] Jack: catching you up with you gj fev fail safes
[3275.23] Jack: of the fev world great to join yeah thanks for coming on
[3281.07] Jack: um stick with us until after the show and make sure your
[3284.99] Jack: all your audio is uploaded yeah yeah thank you to everyone who was
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[3296.43] Jack: uh eight uh yeah 8 p.m 9 p.m uh you've been joined by everyone
[3303.07] Jack: so victory kitten goodbye um fair save fbv
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[3318.67] Jack: and uh next week hopefully we can get a bonus pod
[3322.03] Jack: on the way thank you good night telemetry lost