=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 448 ===
Title: LDO 448 - Driving, Planning And Maybe Droning
Recorded: 2024-03-28
Hosts: Andrew "Frank" Hyams, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Koel "Koala" Anderson
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 1,016
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIHgrAPyD94); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1787716237-letsdroneout-ldo-448-driving-planning-and-maybe-droning.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello and you're listening to what drone out and special thank you to our lovely patrons that help donate
[7.48] Jack: So that we could pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things we say
[12.56] Jack: Massive. Thank you to call us campus art folk now Sam Dharma on with the show
[51.86] Jack: Hello and welcome to let's turn out
[55.78] Jack: Tonight we are joined by Andrew. So Frank
[59.02] Jack: Hey, hello. I'm brought to a fly and we are joined by my buddy Cole
[66.3] Jack: howdy
[67.98] Jack: He's driving
[70.58] Jack: recommend
[73.28] Jack: Driving a passing. Yeah
[76.04] Koel: I'm driving a rental car at the moment to rebel. Oh the fastest car. Yeah
[81.64] Koel: Is that because they're repairing your your your actual car? That's absolutely correct. They
[94.24] Jack: Ting from Japan
[97.08] Koel: Yeah, and I'm also not in a foreign country anymore so I can physically bring my vehicle in so that's good
[105.04] Koel: But the cool thing is actually I mean, this is not obviously drone related
[109.36] Koel: my car has an app and I can see when my
[113.56] Koel: Doors are unlocked when things are malfunctioning because things have been removed
[121.48] Koel: When things are not malfunctioning anymore because they've obviously been put back properly
[126.56] Koel: so that's a that's pretty cool thing to have in the apps there, but
[132.6] Koel: Apparently I'm gonna have my car back by Monday. So that's what I'm looking forward to
[136.68] Frank: Hmm nice
[138.68] Koel: Yep, but it's a holiday this weekend. So oh, yeah, so obviously
[143.32] Koel: We're having a car tomorrow, but they're closed though grants
[148.52] Jack: Hmm
[150.84] Jack: For the weekend
[153.12] Koel: Yep, so good old rental which is covered by insurance. Well, that's good
[157.68] Frank: Now that's good. Yep
[160.68] Koel: Convenient this rental car is a hybrid which is strange
[163.92] Koel: So it does this like regenerative regenerative charging when you break
[169.2] Koel: Or whatever the term is and it's a weird sound
[173.48] Koel: Yeah, it makes a weird sound when you're breaking but
[177.32] Jack: same technology as
[179.44] Jack: your
[181.12] Jack: Your motors on your quad you spin them fast enough. It will generate
[187.0] Koel: current
[190.0] Koel: But it doesn't that current doesn't get put back into the into the battery which is sad
[196.48] Jack: No, cuz it will generate
[199.36] Jack: AC
[200.72] Jack: So you need you need to rectify it back to DC to put it back in your battery
[206.28] Koel: Man, that would be so
[209.56] Jack: Fire I
[211.04] Koel: Need to put a rectum fire into my quad so that
[214.92] Koel: So that I can just fly forever. It's like the ultimate long-range technology man
[219.48] Koel: Just just put in a wreck a rectum fire and you're good
[224.32] Jack: When power drains, yeah, I
[234.36] Jack: Went to revisit the
[239.24] Jack: You know the batteries of doom
[241.88] Koel: Yeah
[243.92] Jack: Yeah, I I went to revisit them
[247.16] Jack: two of them puffed and exploded but I've now
[251.36] Jack: found a way of using like braid and
[255.84] Jack: Connecting them all together, but they no longer come in this size. They
[261.8] Jack: They went down to this size
[265.56] Jack: Which is noticeably shorter? Oh
[269.04] Jack: And now the the the new ones are this size
[279.58] Frank: Interesting. What are the names of the sizes? Jack? And then maybe people listening along can
[285.3] Jack: Imagine there isn't really one
[288.58] Jack: originally it started off
[290.58] Jack: 550 whatever that means and
[293.98] Jack: They were like 13 400
[297.34] Jack: Size and then they were 13
[299.86] Jack: 350 and only 500 milliamp and now they are just
[308.38] Jack: 13 and
[312.82] Jack: 360 milliamp hour. So they're just they're getting smaller and not as juicy
[322.76] Koel: Well for the use case for the use case
[326.0] Koel: I mean, yeah, they're probably trying to cut costs and then
[329.92] Koel: People can just recharge them right or they're disposable. Yeah, so I'm guessing
[335.28] Jack: You know, they were making really big batteries or failing that they were very inefficient or now
[342.92] Jack: They're just shrinking it down being like, you know, if it's disposable vapes, we're gonna have it
[348.84] Jack: So that the battery runs out first rather than the juice or something
[353.8] Jack: Look at her. Oh
[355.8] Frank: Well, Tony has appeared. Sorry. I completely forgot about tonight
[361.44] Frank: My name is like do you want to go down a pub? And I was like, uh, go on then
[368.36] Koel: That's fun
[370.76] Frank: Nice and how do you be not boring? Yeah
[374.32] Frank: No
[376.04] Koel: Yeah, I saw your story Tony. You're out at a
[378.84] Koel: Yeah, so you're at a brewery of sorts or public whatnot
[383.0] Frank: Yeah, I just went to a local brewery down a road for a couple of beers and folks. I'm home and I thought
[394.36] Frank: Brawley's brewing today. Oh
[397.64] Jack: There's I like to imagine you go to the missing link and be like it's me I'm here
[406.52] Frank: Fine ones talk Jack fine months talk you're more like the yeti than me
[413.0] Jack: Well, I'm a different species you're just in between
[417.4] Jack: Thanks
[424.12] Frank: On here and you call me your your wife a lot that is another reason yeah, well, um
[432.36] Jack: I don't know whether it's spoiling anything but fossil asked me when your birthday was and was like, what's when's your husband's birthday?
[440.04] Jack: And I made fossil
[443.24] Jack: I was like I will tell you but but you need to correct and I made him
[450.76] Jack: Make sure that he knows you're the wife in this relationship and he said you're never too sure now these days
[460.92] Frank: That's got a point you
[462.92] Jack: Sure, yeah, so you knew there was some sort of like marital relationship there but had it
[471.24] Frank: The funny thing is it's only in your head
[474.76] Jack: Yes
[478.76] Jack: It's not really a real podcast it's just an hour of jack scratching and sniffing and having returned conversations with himself
[487.96] Frank: Yeah
[489.4] Frank: That's not going well
[490.84] Frank: Frank's camera angle. How many beers you have frank?
[494.52] Frank: Yeah, thanks on the on the missing link right now
[498.04] Frank: It's it's like the computers have had the drinks. That's the problem
[503.48] Frank: What happened to your hair it's it's not going up it's going down
[508.92] Frank: It's it's it's a combination of rain and wind. I like it like that. Maybe you should
[515.4] Frank: Moose and do it like that all the time
[518.36] Frank: It looks quite serious you like that frank is stalin honest to me. Yeah, he is. Yeah, that is uh storm nelson style
[528.6] Jack: I the last time we had whether it was tony's 48th birthday
[534.76] Jack: Wow
[535.88] Jack: And frank's hair was the same
[540.28] Jack: And mine mine was even worse it's the big the big one
[544.68] Frank: disc october
[546.76] Frank: The big five. Oh, can you believe it?
[550.36] Jack: No, I think we should come dressed as policemen
[560.92] Jack: But like more like something from that george michael, um video
[567.48] Frank: Oh god, we're going back into jack's brain again
[571.08] Jack: Yeah
[574.92] Jack: Go where are you? Oh jack's brain again. Hey
[580.12] Jack: You're driving. Stop driving and there's light
[583.88] Koel: I know it's weird
[585.48] Koel: Oh and and actually it's I am currently at the coven garden market. Everybody want to see the coven garden market. Yeah
[591.48] Jack: Yeah, it's not real coven garden market
[593.96] Frank: Yeah, it's your same one that you take all night because you left
[598.6] Jack: Yeah, what what make of rental is it uh, try on a corolla hybrid?
[605.4] Frank: Oh, okay
[606.92] Koel: Yeah
[608.04] Koel: But here I am
[610.04] Koel: This is a lovely london. Here we are on a little tour here turn the camera. Do you have a light?
[615.4] Koel: Oh
[617.0] Jack: Okay boomer
[619.48] Koel: Kevin garden market. There you go. See that the pretend one
[624.2] Koel: the pretend one
[625.72] Koel: yeah
[627.24] Jack: It must be very weird for you coming over here and being like this is the real london. You're like bull
[634.68] Koel: Well
[635.72] Koel: what I find the most strange is like
[638.12] Koel: Just all the different street names are the same like oxford and dundas and wellington and
[644.68] Koel: And uh everything, you know, it's all just uh
[648.28] Frank: We're all just ripped up. We just ripped it off from you guys. Although my good side was america. There's you know
[653.64] Frank: all that
[656.6] Frank: Oh crunk saying that there's an announcement tomorrow
[663.16] Frank: On the kit ultra discord in the event section
[667.96] Jack: Interesting
[669.4] Jack: Is it worth getting alex on next week?
[672.76] Jack: Is it that big of a announcement?
[675.8] Koel: Crunk that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, we'd love to get awesome to get
[679.32] Koel: cramped and uh
[681.0] Koel: And that was the end of the run if we could
[683.4] Jack: This is how stupid I am i've got this lid
[686.52] Jack: And I try to balance it on my light and the thing is with the light
[690.84] Jack: It's a ring and look how perfectly that fits
[694.92] Jack: And it just went straight through
[697.32] Jack: into my drink
[700.44] Koel: So yes tomorrow at 3 p.m. My time it says elusive and exclusive
[708.44] Frank: That sounds like a
[713.0] Jack: Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's crunked these uh, crunked is it your uh only fans? Yes
[723.78] Jack: I'm signing up right away. Don't you subscribe to crunk's only fans
[728.5] Koel: No
[729.38] Koel: Although uh in in case of the news there is the new um, the b58 I guess uh release update which
[737.06] Koel: Yeah, that's pretty cool
[739.3] Koel: I haven't done it yet because all my pods are in my closet fighting from the cold weather
[744.26] Frank: You don't have to do it if they fly nice don't do it
[749.38] Koel: Well, you know what I I actually I do think that the um the updates that that alex pushes out are
[756.34] Koel: Pretty awesome. Usually like there's
[760.1] Koel: They're incremental but they actually have some uses which is great. It's not just like here's a
[766.98] Frank: It's like here's the next version what might find a little bit better
[770.26] Frank: But yeah, if he's pushing out stuff for ads, then it might be worth it like returned home
[776.58] Frank: You know better stuff like that then it's probably worth it
[780.98] Koel: Yeah, I just read it here. I think he improved the adaptive filtering
[785.86] Koel: Um, I could be wrong because i'm just kind of pulling this out of my memory, which is also really
[792.34] Koel: But I think adaptive filtering, uh something to do with uh,
[797.62] Koel: Gosh, I don't know i'm driving. I can't even look this up now. So i'll just shut up
[802.5] Koel: But there are improvements. There are improvements and they're great
[806.42] Koel: usually
[807.54] Koel: I haven't had a chance to do any updates or flying or anything. So i'm kind of out of the loop on the
[812.02] Koel: On all that stuff
[814.02] Jack: Are you still in?
[815.86] Jack: editing hell
[818.18] Koel: At the moment. Yeah. Well i've edited about
[822.1] Koel: I've only edited two videos so far from my travels and I have another like 10 to edit though. Yeah
[829.46] Koel: the
[830.66] Koel: The problem is though for me right now is that i'm finding that on these longer
[836.18] Koel: Videos, especially like long range videos or longer range. I should say
[841.06] Koel: Man, my 2018 macbook is just not holding up on these
[845.38] Koel: On these with the file sizes, man, like it's it's really
[849.62] Koel: It's it's hard. Uh, it's hard to get some good editing done. So i'm
[853.94] Koel: Looking at new computers actually believe it or not
[857.62] Jack: It'll probably be cheaper to just fly to me and use mine
[864.34] Jack: Yeah, let's get all your editing done here
[868.74] Koel: Well, I i'm looking at these new macbook pros man, the m3 pro looks pretty enticing
[875.06] Koel: get studio man
[877.7] Koel: I'm i'm gonna wait for the studio until uh until they got the m3 chips in there
[882.98] Jack: Yeah
[885.45] Jack: Um, it might be worth you just renting on the chain. Surely
[892.25] Frank: Online computers and laptops hi
[896.01] Koel: Yeah, you probably yeah you can but but I can I can write it off as a business expense. Anyway, because of my company so
[903.05] Koel: yeah
[905.29] Jack: You can probably do that for then just so that yours is in for a battery repair
[911.69] Koel: Yeah
[912.97] Koel: I'm pretty uh put it this way man. I'm running a 2018 macbook pro is my main machine
[918.73] Koel: That's that's a serious problem. If i'm running a multi, you know production
[924.01] Koel: type business
[925.69] Jack: Yeah
[926.97] Jack: Frank is there been any news or updates regarding the wing?
[931.93] Jack: Nurse
[933.13] Jack: Are you going to be?
[935.29] Jack: Heading to wales anytime soon
[939.05] Frank: Yes
[940.25] Frank: May 18th 19th. I don't think that's news. But yep, i'm i'm definitely going to go to wales
[946.73] Frank: There's been a new event put up
[950.17] Frank: Uh pop them which is uh, I can't remember. I know it's a date that I can't make
[958.33] Frank: Yeah, it's june the somethings
[962.09] Jack: Uh, it might be the only way to
[965.85] Jack: See my mistress christine
[969.69] Frank: Oh you cheating on me bitch
[972.97] Jack: It's not cheating. It's just keeping the relationship alive
[985.69] Frank: Yeah pop them yes, I don't know if I can make it either
[989.61] Frank: But I might
[990.97] Jack: It'll be good
[992.33] Jack: It'll be good. I'll be able to see you
[994.57] Frank: Are you gonna come down to me? Are you gonna come down a few a few make an effort my darling husband and I
[1001.21] Frank: Oh god, it's in my head now. I probably will as well
[1005.05] Jack: Why don't we?
[1006.81] Jack: Book a romantic Airbnb together. Oh, you're going too far
[1013.21] Jack: Are you in separate rooms
[1016.17] Jack: I'm going so far jack
[1019.21] Jack: Why can't frank make it frank? What happened?
[1022.97] Frank: What do you mean? Or is it personal? I reckon the electronic fair things on the world
[1028.73] Frank: Uh, nope, it's uh
[1033.29] Frank: Just another another event now i've got booked up
[1037.21] Frank: Sort of just a one-off event. So i'm gonna go see
[1041.77] Frank: Some other mates my other friend i've got
[1045.29] Frank: friends other friends
[1047.53] Frank: I've got that i'm the same i've got drone friends s off friends biking friends
[1054.01] Frank: it's
[1055.21] Frank: I mean, I love everyone the same but yeah, it's funny, isn't it that we got different things?
[1061.61] Frank: Different adventures different friends kayaking friends camping friends
[1068.74] Frank: Yeah, I know I don't know. I know what you mean
[1072.76] Frank: What about western park though? We can do western park
[1075.88] Frank: When what date is that again? That's all august or later than that. Well, that's june again. It's the weekend after it's the
[1083.48] Frank: 15th and 16th of june
[1087.16] Frank: Is andy rc going?
[1090.28] Frank: I believe andy rc is going I believe andy rc was suggesting that we do what we do what we did
[1099.4] Frank: Six years ago was that that long ago
[1103.08] Frank: and uh
[1105.08] Frank: we go to
[1107.08] Frank: western park on the saturday and then we find some places to fly on the sunday
[1112.92] Frank: And curry and everything on the saturday night
[1117.24] Frank: Yeah, of course goes without saying
[1120.76] Frank: The 15th and 16th of june
[1124.6] Frank: That'd be a not being quite a nice
[1127.48] Frank: place to meet
[1128.92] Frank: Um anyone who watches the show as well, wouldn't it actually?
[1131.96] Frank: Because it's like a senate really
[1134.52] Frank: But i'll remember when was it six years ago?
[1137.88] Frank: We went through there and people were shouting stuff. Let's carry on doing the podcast boys. Love it and stuff
[1143.56] Frank: That was quite an eyes
[1145.24] Frank: hearing that
[1147.32] Frank: I think yeah, I think it was once and they were taking a piss but I liked it
[1154.28] Frank: Yeah, exactly I can confirm as well that uh
[1158.68] Frank: Lee painless 360 is planning to be there. I haven't seen him for a few years as well. So that'd be nice
[1166.52] Frank: It's uh a classic
[1169.96] Koel: place to be
[1171.24] Koel: I might have to make it down for uh from canada for that. That sounds like a cool little meet-up
[1177.0] Frank: It would be cool co
[1179.32] Koel: Yeah, yeah, it's june june
[1182.44] Koel: Okay, send me some of the dates or tell me the dates later and uh, where is western park, uh in england exactly
[1189.56] Koel: Like is it south middle north?
[1192.92] Frank: It's
[1193.96] Frank: About a little I would say just below middle if she is
[1200.84] Koel: Well, if I somehow make it there maybe I can tag along with one of you guys
[1206.82] Frank: absolutely
[1208.28] Koel: Awesome. Okay, we'll get a big airbnb. I think that's the answer. Yeah. Yeah, we'll just get a we'll just get a party going
[1217.0] Frank: Yeah, I think that's what we did last time is quite fun
[1221.16] Frank: Anyone who wants to join can join
[1223.88] Frank: When you can actually get some sleep because you can shut the yeti out of your room and lock it
[1228.52] Frank: Yeah
[1231.88] Frank: And he don't just get overheated by the enormous log fire he decides to build
[1242.33] Koel: Yes
[1245.21] Koel: So, um for for those who are ignorant to second dk events, what is western park all about?
[1253.45] Frank: Western park is is definitely the biggest
[1257.19] Frank: model flying
[1258.73] Frank: Uh event in the uk. I they they've been claiming it's the biggest one in europe. I don't know
[1264.89] Frank: That might be true
[1266.97] Frank: it's
[1268.01] Frank: It's a big big like old country house
[1271.37] Frank: um
[1272.57] Frank: with big grounds and then they
[1276.01] Frank: End up having it basically turns into a caravan park for the weekend
[1280.65] Frank: And it's a big triangle and along one side of the triangle. There's
[1286.57] Frank: a lot of
[1287.69] Frank: Model like fixed wing model flying line of sight flying
[1291.69] Frank: but from everything from like
[1295.29] Frank: Big jets that have got like thrust vectoring so they can hover in the middle of the sky
[1302.25] Frank: To like pulse jet stuff that's just ridiculously loud and combat stuff where they're flying it into each other
[1310.33] Frank: They've got big hoops that they set on fire and then challenge each other to fly through
[1315.53] Frank: Um, they usually get uh, some like manned
[1320.25] Frank: aircraft going as well, uh, like doing some
[1324.01] Frank: Uh, you know a bit of a display
[1326.65] Frank: Yes, is that the ones what come on?
[1329.37] Frank: Just like a month later you get ufo people going
[1334.81] Frank: A ufo it's definitely a ufo. It was spiral in the sky
[1340.65] Frank: Yeah
[1344.97] Frank: It's always like he's not
[1351.53] Frank: Yeah, uh, and then
[1355.21] Frank: On another side of the triangle you've got a load of uh
[1358.87] Frank: helicopters, so like
[1361.29] Frank: Flying 3d this sort of stuff where it it looks terrifying and sounds terrifying and we all try and hide behind jack
[1368.01] Frank: Yeah, we hide behind jack
[1370.25] Frank: Watching
[1372.41] Frank: It just looks
[1374.41] Frank: just seems terrifying and then
[1377.21] Frank: the other
[1378.49] Frank: The third sign of the triangle you've got uh
[1382.33] Frank: Quad racing which is usually fa so international sort of level flying
[1389.05] Frank: um
[1390.49] Frank: and
[1392.09] Frank: Uh, there's usually a race there. Do they still do like a race there now? Yeah, I think so
[1398.89] Frank: Um
[1401.45] Frank: You know, I'm I don't know
[1404.25] Frank: I can I can look on ifpv and tell you have a quick look
[1409.77] Frank: Yeah
[1411.37] Frank: I haven't done any racing for so long and now the pop-up events come up with the x-carts and i'm thinking
[1419.85] Frank: Oh gosh, should I should I go do it?
[1422.97] Frank: don't know
[1425.13] Frank: Uh, I have the ifpv listing says western park, baby placeholder for now
[1432.09] Frank: so
[1434.09] Frank: Take from that what you will
[1438.65] Frank: Don't know what that means but
[1442.71] Frank: Uh, yeah, I think it means they haven't made the website yet for it yet. I think that's what that means
[1449.27] Jack: other friends
[1451.27] Jack: Um
[1454.47] Frank: Oh
[1459.03] Jack: He's one of these friends scared of leaks by any chance
[1465.11] Frank: Uh, no, uh, but we we should definitely mention leaks
[1470.79] Frank: Uh, because I know he does
[1473.09] Frank: occasionally listen
[1475.49] Frank: Yeah
[1476.85] Frank: That wind is getting worse and worse
[1479.89] Frank: I thought it was worse in the morning, but in fact, it's worse now
[1484.85] Frank: It seems pretty bad. Yeah
[1488.37] Frank: Ifpv to see the western park details, but uh
[1493.01] Frank: next week
[1494.43] Frank: saturday, so the 6th of april
[1497.89] Frank: the scottish fpv championship are having their round two for
[1503.71] Frank: 2024
[1507.49] Frank: Airy haggis
[1509.49] Frank: yeah
[1512.36] Frank: that is
[1513.8] Frank: To to have to be on round two. I feel is quite impressive like
[1520.92] Frank: Well, yeah, especially with the wind and the rain that we've had
[1525.64] Frank: Yeah, i'm, not sure i've flown twice this year
[1529.96] Frank: Yeah, I probably have but it's been commercial
[1535.48] Frank: Fun
[1536.6] Frank: It's been to her money
[1539.8] Frank: Oh, hairy haggis is in the chat
[1544.95] Frank: And I mean it's pushing it but uh sgdc which I think is south gloster
[1552.39] Frank: If i'm not much mistaken, I see sgdc everywhere south. Yeah
[1558.15] Frank: um
[1560.15] Frank: It's their first in their summer series of races
[1564.31] Frank: So they reckon summer
[1566.31] Frank: They reckon it's summer already
[1569.43] Frank: I'm looking looking out the window and i'm not feeling something
[1574.31] Frank: Flimming windy and cold all the way out
[1578.92] Frank: Well last was it last
[1581.4] Frank: Week last sunday was quite nice in the afternoon and then wednesday before was warm
[1587.48] Frank: And then it's all gone downhill again
[1589.88] Frank: Gone back to cold and windy
[1592.12] Frank: I bought some new lipos and some other stuff. So it's my fault. Sorry
[1597.64] Frank: Is it you know what's happened?
[1600.68] Frank: I've got some new stuff to fly got some stuff to maiden
[1604.84] Frank: And i've watched the car well enough that I can actually give it a go
[1609.08] Frank: Like so yeah, it's my fault. The weather's gone
[1611.64] Frank: pear-shaped
[1614.28] Jack: I don't think so. I think it's just
[1616.92] Jack: All the spring
[1619.64] Jack: I think people got hoodwinked in to thinking the weather's turned and
[1626.84] Jack: Suddenly forgot we're in england
[1629.32] Frank: It's so nasty out there like even walking
[1633.0] Frank: The trails it's so muddy and horrible. It's absolutely disgusting
[1638.52] Frank: So i'm kind of glad my bike's broken now
[1643.48] Frank: so it can be
[1645.16] Frank: hopefully fixed
[1647.16] Frank: For summer even though it's been broken for five five weeks now this saturday
[1653.64] Jack: You don't need to you don't need a bike
[1656.36] Jack: swim
[1658.36] Frank: Yeah, he's still in the shop
[1661.08] Frank: needs a new motor
[1666.52] Jack: Is that because you gave in and was like oh i'll get an electric bike
[1671.32] Frank: It's not giving in jack. It's
[1673.88] Frank: moving forward in life
[1676.12] Jack: With the time yeah, i'm quoting you
[1680.12] Frank: But never gave in I just wanted to go further
[1686.92] Jack: That's what it's all about just not in life
[1693.4] Frank: What right
[1694.52] Frank: I saw you on here and I thought that's Thursday night. I forgot about it. Do they you know should I go on?
[1701.56] Frank: And then I just get abuse
[1703.96] Jack: No
[1711.32] Frank: I love listening to the old letters thrown out
[1714.52] Frank: That I told you the other day. Oh, it was so funny. That's a lot
[1718.68] Frank: Well me and you bickering was yeah, pretty funny
[1722.84] Jack: I think we should do
[1724.84] Jack: I just wish I remembered like the bits where it was just me and you
[1728.6] Jack: Because I bet that is horrendous because like
[1731.32] Jack: We're having nothing's happening. The wind's awful. Frank's like we got nothing. We got nothing to say
[1737.72] Jack: I mean now there is events unlike whereas before there was no event
[1743.96] Jack: But like
[1745.56] Jack: I can't imagine like frank if you want to feel bad about yourself, you could come on and talk about your
[1751.56] Jack: Collection of leds and it would be better than me reading off like be a heli specs
[1758.52] Jack: Remember that frank
[1760.92] Jack: Frank phoned me up over that one and frank like only communicated back in the day by text
[1767.16] Jack: But he actually phoned me up. I was like
[1769.8] Jack: What are you doing?
[1772.2] Frank: Oh, is this the esc list? Yeah. Yeah
[1776.12] Frank: Yeah, that was
[1778.44] Jack: I bothered to read the manual
[1781.8] Frank: That was a show in our family
[1785.08] Frank: That's that's you know, every
[1788.12] Frank: Step is a step forward
[1790.52] Frank: No, not on this show
[1793.96] Frank: How we get to episode 448, you know you have to get through episode 31
[1800.04] Frank: What are we gonna do? You're just gonna get to 10 how how long to 10 years what we got a year and a half?
[1806.84] Frank: Uh, yeah
[1809.4] Frank: August 2025
[1811.4] Frank: Is it just next year? Oh next year. I think we should just stop and put everyone out of their misery
[1818.2] Frank: We've done it for a decade
[1821.0] Frank: So there's here's an entire decade of the ride of left pv. Yes, that's your lot. Yeah
[1829.32] Koel: Still need that world record though. Well, it is 10 years, isn't it?
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[1857.32] Frank: Let's drone out
[1858.92] Frank: I can't believe the wind outside. All I can hear is it's constantly blowing. It's not even stopping
[1865.96] Frank: It's constant
[1867.96] Frank: Some of your ex-girlfriends, isn't it? Really? What are they had constant wind? What like you jack?
[1873.8] Frank: I'm blowing
[1877.56] Koel: Oh
[1879.56] Frank: Burn burn
[1882.12] Frank: dear, um
[1884.44] Frank: Do you want do you want some actual news?
[1887.0] Jack: Yes
[1889.0] Jack: Uh before we're after a pie sudah cream to tony
[1897.48] Koel: So much there's a vehicle in front of me right now and their license plate is spectrum
[1904.6] Jack: Nice
[1907.0] Jack: Try try close to their window and just be like enjoy fail-saving mother
[1914.84] Frank: I feel bad driving around with my number plate now at the moment now people are starting to actually know what fbv is but
[1923.4] Frank: Just normal people knowing what fbv is from the bloody war
[1928.2] Frank: They're like, oh, yeah, he's he's probably good at it that one
[1931.96] Frank: Look at his number
[1933.64] Frank: But there's you going around with your airsoft gear and your yeah
[1940.6] Frank: Yeah with that number plate, yeah, no no terrible
[1946.68] Jack: Nice they should they should allow you to use drones airsoft to drop stuff on people
[1953.16] Frank: Yes, done that. I mean you i'm sure i've seen it on your
[1956.76] Frank: I filmed there
[1958.76] Frank: I've done a promo video and they've asked me to do another one, which
[1962.52] Frank: We're gonna do when the um
[1965.32] Frank: I would get a bit more springish weather
[1969.24] Koel: I have seen a few uh, i've seen a few youtube guys that do the air software or the paintball
[1974.68] Koel: That uh have done i've used fpv drones as a uh, as a means of basically dropping, uh
[1982.76] Koel: Paint ballistics
[1985.32] Frank: Yeah, i've seen it a couple of times like
[1987.8] Frank: um
[1988.76] Frank: driven uh grenades in and flicked them out on stuff on a
[1992.92] Frank: On a car on a car or truck or something. But yeah, i've done i've done
[1998.12] Frank: fpv flying for a
[2000.52] Frank: for
[2001.56] Frank: My local which I really enjoyed doing so and they've asked me to do it again. So I will do it again soon
[2007.8] Frank: Just wait if it's in good weather, man
[2010.52] Koel: Yeah today would have been a potentially well today's a potentially fine day. It's 10 degrees out and
[2016.52] Koel: sunny
[2017.48] Koel: but it is quite windy and
[2020.12] Koel: I have so much editing to do from my trip that I don't even feel like charging batteries
[2025.16] Koel: So well, I think if we put the drone up
[2028.28] Frank: Tonight it would be blown away quite quickly
[2033.64] Frank: It's pretty bad out there quite terrible any more actual news Frank
[2039.16] Frank: Um uav hive who's done a very good job over the past
[2044.2] Frank: Again, almost six years
[2046.44] Frank: uh
[2048.44] Frank: Pushing for freedom of information
[2051.72] Frank: uh requests about gatwick
[2056.28] Jack: And he's on gatwick
[2060.92] Frank: As as part of one of his uh requests he's got
[2066.12] Frank: He's got an official number of uh drone
[2072.12] Frank: Collisions in the uk since 2012
[2077.0] Frank: I can tell you what it is now
[2080.28] Frank: Zero zero it is not zero the official numbers are not zero
[2086.2] Frank: minus one
[2089.88] Frank: The official numbers are that five drones have collided with other drones
[2096.92] Frank: Yeah
[2098.36] Frank: one collided with
[2100.36] Koel: I feel like that's not
[2103.56] Frank: Yeah, i'm assuming that's like something big enough than expensive enough that someone has actually been like had had to report it a mandatory occurrence report
[2113.16] Frank: I imagine flying into another drone
[2116.2] Frank: and
[2117.08] Frank: the yes
[2122.28] Frank: There's there's two
[2124.58] Frank: collisions between drones and
[2128.12] Frank: Manned aircraft since 2012 one involving a glider and one involving a paramotor
[2135.96] Frank: So there you go
[2142.52] Frank: It was their mate saying go on follow me around go on
[2147.48] Frank: Well, I heard that well, they're just flying very low over like a hill and someone's
[2153.96] Frank: Yeah
[2155.48] Frank: Literally, you could be flying anywhere legally and then a paramotor comes over the top of your head and
[2162.6] Frank: So that's going to be their argument is that's why you should have a spotter
[2167.56] Frank: Yeah
[2169.0] Frank: What they can see through hills couldn't see through a hill
[2172.52] Frank: Well, the idea is that they're looking in the other direction from you and can see it before
[2178.85] Jack: You know, yeah, but they they can't look at the parabola and take their eyes off your drone
[2184.93] Jack: Then they're not watching your drone
[2188.13] Jack: Uh, hey frank
[2191.57] Jack: The eyes have got to be on the drone at all times
[2199.01] Jack: One looking for other stuff and one looking at the quad, uh too much technicality who cares
[2206.85] Frank: What we need is you need 361 people
[2212.93] Frank: And the 360 just looking outwards
[2216.13] Frank: That's what you need. Uh, no, uh, was there any fatalities?
[2221.57] Frank: Uh, it doesn't mention it doesn't say either way
[2225.09] Frank: But well, thanks. I feel like if there had been
[2227.73] Frank: a glider
[2229.09] Frank: All paramotor pilot killed by colliding with the drone. I feel like that would have been
[2235.41] Frank: Fairly high up the headlines that we'd have noticed. Yeah. I think it would have been on some collin news
[2241.73] Koel: And probably would have to have been like bigger than an x-class
[2246.29] Frank: Yeah, but uh, but the the stuff that uav hive posts is
[2251.73] Frank: Quite interesting. I mean he's he's chasing down
[2255.89] Frank: uh
[2256.77] Frank: sort of who was running the dji aeroscope that was like photographed on the roof of gatwick, um
[2265.73] Frank: At a time when the official timeline says there was no
[2269.73] Frank: Dji aeroscope there. So it's like well someone had one there because we've got photos of it
[2275.97] Frank: So and uh and uh usa was selling the
[2280.77] Frank: The airport to france at that particular time
[2288.93] Frank: You know, he's he's putting a lot of work over the years, uh
[2293.57] Frank: to the point where
[2295.57] Frank: I I feel like all the agencies, you know the caa police everyone else
[2300.29] Frank: Are all getting pretty fed up
[2302.61] Frank: With him submitting the freedom of information requests. How many people have died flying?
[2308.69] Frank: drone fpv drones
[2311.01] Frank: like
[2312.05] Frank: Have we caused any accidents or everyone died or as more people fallen down the stairs and died than?
[2319.01] Frank: I think more people have fallen down the stairs, but absolutely stairs are a bit more
[2325.57] Frank: Uh required to more people's everyday lives than fpv. I suppose okay. Let's try to think
[2332.29] Frank: Something else then
[2336.05] Frank: Um anyone in the chat help
[2340.45] Koel: But I feel like more people I bet more people have died from flicking rubber bands
[2346.61] Koel: than drones
[2350.29] Frank: Yeah, all nine volt batteries licking them
[2355.57] Frank: I can pretty much guarantee that more people have died due to beer than oh
[2362.61] Koel: Yeah
[2363.89] Koel: Oh my gosh
[2368.61] Frank: Absolutely, I feel like that would be hard to argue against and we still allow beer
[2374.61] Frank: Yeah, we do. Yeah
[2378.93] Koel: Yeah, it's really weird the whole uh
[2382.21] Frank: The whole thing about cracking another one, but now I don't know
[2387.01] Frank: What are you drinking from
[2389.97] Koel: Drones, let's go fly drones
[2396.05] Frank: Yeah, I still think the whole gatwick gatwick thing was like
[2401.81] Frank: I don't know some kind of selling
[2404.85] Frank: Let's make it cheaper by saying it was there was something going on. Yeah. What I didn't do it. I promise
[2411.89] Frank: No
[2417.17] Jack: How much does it cost to submit a
[2420.37] Jack: Freedom of information act and is it recorded anywhere?
[2424.13] Frank: I think it's free
[2425.65] Frank: I think yeah
[2426.69] Frank: uh
[2427.65] Frank: If you request something that takes them more than like half an hour then they can
[2433.01] Frank: Say like we won't do it for free. But if you pay us this much we'll do it
[2437.17] Frank: Is like some some of the limit of like the time that they have to spend to get the data to you
[2443.49] Jack: I wonder if I could submit the tony
[2446.83] Jack: merchant dude
[2449.25] Jack: question
[2452.21] Jack: Oh, I know that you know that
[2454.77] Frank: Unless terribly the government agent, I don't think that's really a freedom of information
[2460.77] Frank: Yeah
[2462.13] Frank: That's top secret that's a oh you can have it on your t-shirt, but I don't think you should
[2469.73] Jack: Oh dear maybe maybe I should print the form with me like it's
[2476.35] Jack: handwriting it
[2479.41] Jack: Did my mate tone
[2481.81] Koel: Does go it why why I thought you said wait
[2485.25] Jack: What
[2490.69] Koel: Depends which way you mean mate as if you're mating with tony then
[2495.89] Frank: You've just overstepped the boundary
[2498.61] Frank: 10 seconds
[2500.45] Koel: You british folk call each other mates. I mean, come on. I know I think he's learning
[2506.61] Jack: Jack is
[2508.85] Jack: the complexes of
[2511.17] Jack: subtlety
[2513.73] Jack: Yeah, I think he's I think he's settling in
[2517.41] Jack: Yeah, gal's getting it
[2520.69] Koel: I'm going septic
[2523.49] Jack: No, that's means you hate america
[2527.33] Jack: Oh
[2528.53] Frank: Well, he said well, you know having canada
[2536.85] Koel: We're too nice to hate anybody come on now, yeah
[2540.61] Koel: Fair play except for
[2543.33] Koel: um
[2545.73] Koel: Actually, I don't know. I don't know what what's
[2548.05] Frank: Hating it's just too much energy to hate anything really. Yeah, don't do anything or anyone
[2553.57] Jack: What's in our tiny tiny dust freak job?
[2557.25] Frank: Well, i'm like friends everywhere I go
[2561.81] Frank: Yeah, but just putting everyone at 50
[2567.97] Frank: It doesn't hit by it helps
[2575.75] Frank: That was for me
[2577.35] Frank: Do we haven't been on an fpv very good for ages?
[2580.39] Frank: No, I think we should do one
[2582.79] Frank: I think we should definitely do one. Yeah
[2586.23] Frank: Maybe maybe
[2588.55] Frank: Up to western we should like do a trip to western and have it as a
[2595.27] Frank: fpv long weekend where we
[2598.23] Frank: fight different places on the way up and
[2601.11] Frank: Do just like muck about and have fun
[2608.71] Koel: Find things along the way and yeah see you on the way if it looks cool then rip it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly
[2614.63] Frank: Yeah, do that. Sounds like a super fun
[2617.35] Frank: Then have fun at western park
[2619.59] Frank: Have a curry go out with the mates that we ain't seen for ages. Oh god an andi rc hug will be lovely, wouldn't it?
[2627.19] Jack: And then I want to hold him like rose and jack and i'll be jack
[2634.55] Jack: When the glider music comes on
[2637.83] Frank: I'm doing fly doors for rich at the moment. So i'll bring you a door home that you two can lie on
[2643.43] Frank: The titanic door was sold at auction this week. Isn't it? I did see that
[2648.39] Frank: It's like half a million pounds or something really good. No
[2652.47] Jack: Did you see?
[2654.23] Jack: No a couple of weeks ago. Mr. Darcy shirt sold loads of
[2659.19] Jack: The middle-aged women were arguing over it
[2661.99] Jack: Having a look at how much i sold for it was ridiculous as much as a door
[2668.79] Frank: He's getting there some people pay silly money for silly things
[2676.21] Jack: Yeah, man hit the north view lot and then swani goes come up bonnie scotland
[2682.87] Frank: I would
[2686.97] Frank: If these guys would do it
[2689.13] Jack: We know someone called greer
[2691.61] Jack: and greer but
[2693.93] Jack: It's all off scotland
[2696.81] Jack: Forever. I I swear just looking at iron bro
[2704.81] Frank: I mean if you get if you get past if you get jack past wales, it's it's like nosebleed time, isn't it?
[2713.61] Jack: Yeah
[2714.89] Jack: um
[2715.69] Jack: Yeah, like I can't tell whether
[2718.17] Jack: it's because
[2719.61] Jack: I have really reminded me of scotland or
[2722.57] Jack: It's because it's orange and greer was ginger. I don't know
[2726.25] Frank: but either way
[2730.01] Frank: What's that what's that saying
[2733.61] Jack: Oh what the glass house is
[2736.17] Frank: Don't
[2751.51] Jack: Yeah, I know but a lot of people's beards are ginger
[2756.15] Koel: Oh, yeah, I got a little bit if I get the right light and uh, my my
[2760.39] Koel: Chin has enough hair on it. It does have a bit of gin gin it
[2764.23] Jack: It's going great like you tongue
[2767.75] Frank: Blondes it's blonde here
[2773.27] Jack: Like the in streaking storms hair
[2778.15] Frank: This is son died
[2782.71] Jack: There's more what do you mean the sun has died in england and we'll never see it again
[2790.15] Frank: I know it goes in 11 year cycles. I think we're actually the lowest cycle of the sun at the moment. So
[2796.71] Frank: I might be next year. We'll have a trail
[2799.11] Frank: You never know
[2800.63] Koel: I just I just did a drive by of my uh
[2804.07] Koel: Of my repaired vehicle that's behind a fence and it looks great. It looks good again. It looks brand new again
[2810.63] Frank: Oh, is that why you're in a um
[2813.03] Frank: courtesy car
[2814.79] Koel: Yeah, yeah, my uh, well sort of changed its subject here guys, but yeah, no, I uh
[2819.51] Koel: I'm in a rental car because my car that somebody decided to you know
[2824.07] Koel: Not parallel park they decided they could just like pull into a spot
[2828.23] Koel: They uh, yeah, they just wrecked my car a bunch of months back and I was just finally getting fixed. So
[2834.39] Frank: Well, you you're parked up
[2836.87] Frank: And you and your car got squashed or something. What happened?
[2840.71] Koel: So I was I was parked in temporary parking beside my apartment
[2845.27] Koel: And uh, it's basically one of those like sort of on the side type of parking areas. So
[2851.59] Koel: uh
[2853.51] Koel: There there was a car at the very front of the parking area
[2855.99] Koel: There was an open space and then I was in essentially the third spot
[2860.31] Koel: Well anybody that has to you know partial brain cells in their head
[2864.47] Koel: Would you know parallel park you go beside the first car you back in you do the parallel park?
[2869.35] Koel: well
[2869.91] Koel: This bozo decided that they were just going to try and pull into the spot that you're supposed to parallel park into
[2875.27] Koel: And just side swipe the out of my car
[2877.83] Koel: And my car my car was parked that car wasn't even on there was nobody in the car. It's like
[2884.31] Koel: like
[2885.43] Koel: Yeah, somebody like this big Lexus SUV decides that they they don't know how to park but they can buy him like, you know
[2892.95] Frank: Did you get their plates and you know, and you're not paying for this
[2897.99] Koel: so
[2898.79] Koel: Luckily, I was actually
[2901.27] Koel: it was really lucky because
[2903.35] Koel: I was just leaving to go drive to work in the morning and uh
[2907.51] Koel: It just happened
[2909.03] Koel: Moments before and then the chick was like standing by my car like freaking out like what do I do?
[2914.23] Koel: What do I do? And i'm just like so I I caught her in the act basically
[2919.03] Koel: And because of that
[2921.59] Koel: Yeah, because of that no deductible
[2923.67] Koel: but like
[2924.95] Koel: it's not fun because my car's a special edition and the
[2928.55] Koel: Just a stupid little piece of plastic on there like almost two thousand dollars
[2934.15] Frank: This is what I don't drive my car anywhere
[2936.87] Frank: I don't park it anywhere. I don't drive it anywhere, especially if it's raining
[2941.03] Frank: I haven't actually driven it in the rain for about five years
[2945.51] Frank: But yeah, I know what you mean. It's just it's terrible. I parked my van
[2950.39] Frank: In a supermarket and come up come back with a ding in the door
[2953.99] Frank: Like someone's opened their door and dinged my it's just so annoying. Just this little
[2959.83] Frank: Tiny little dent just a pinky little dent, but you can see it from miles away now. It's so
[2966.47] Koel: Oh, yeah, you can see it's the only thing you can see when you look at your car
[2970.55] Frank: I know I hate it. This is literally why my car stays on my drive
[2974.95] Frank: I've just done it. I've chewed and done
[2977.75] Frank: a thousand miles since the last day by day
[2981.11] Frank: Wow, I solved that problem by getting a car that was just scratched up already
[2985.11] Frank: Yeah
[2987.43] Frank: And you don't care
[2993.19] Frank: After hitting a pothole at 70 miles an hour on saturday
[2997.99] Frank: uh
[3000.07] Frank: The the uh the tire place, uh on tuesday when I got the new tire they were very impressed that the car
[3006.63] Frank: Had done 160 000 miles
[3010.63] Frank: Yeah, but did they see it had a h badge on it?
[3015.19] Frank: They'd be like oh, it's just breaking into maturity
[3020.31] Frank: It's a 58 reg so
[3024.47] Frank: Mine's I think mine's on 150
[3029.19] Frank: Something like that
[3031.67] Frank: That's that's just nothing for a Honda mate
[3034.79] Koel: No
[3036.07] Koel: Oh 150. Oh you're laughing
[3038.55] Frank: Yeah, you're right
[3040.31] Koel: I guess you guys are talking miles though, aren't you?
[3043.03] Frank: Yeah, yeah, we don't talk like kalamata bollocks
[3046.95] Koel: But that's so strange because you guys go by uh, you guys do go by the metric system for a lot of stuff
[3053.51] Koel: Don't you?
[3054.79] Frank: We use celsius
[3056.95] Frank: uh and
[3059.03] Frank: We use kilos and liters sometimes sometimes we use points sometimes we use pounds sometimes we use stone
[3067.19] Frank: It depends how we're feeling
[3069.19] Koel: Yeah
[3072.07] Koel: So are you measuring me?
[3076.47] Frank: We we owned and ruled everything so we just do whatever we want
[3083.91] Jack: The only reason it's called great britain is because we had a little island called lesser britain
[3088.79] Jack: And we're already on a very small island as it is
[3091.83] Frank: It was it was great
[3094.79] Frank: Probably cut 100
[3096.79] Jack: Have you seen?
[3098.07] Jack: so d
[3099.59] Jack: d wrote
[3101.11] Jack: The world could fly drones too
[3103.99] Jack: And then I replied haven't the wealth set a 20 mile an hour speed
[3109.35] Jack: And then I get
[3111.59] Jack: Not for drones. I'm still ripping around in my f3 power cube tbs oblivion around still
[3124.63] Frank: Someone beat that coal geezer
[3127.59] Frank: Was that that i've just seen when they literally stacked
[3131.35] Jack: ec bike control
[3140.15] Frank: That is that is a design choice, isn't it? That is quite a
[3144.55] Frank: It was feral so
[3147.51] Frank: Can I tell you the reason i'm flying a lot
[3150.55] Frank: Yes, please
[3153.11] Frank: my
[3154.47] Frank: Flying field which is literally down the road opposite my airsoft field
[3159.51] Frank: They built a hut
[3161.19] Frank: I don't know if i've said this before they built a hut
[3164.55] Frank: For people to lump from london to come spend a day in a in a field in a hut
[3172.47] Frank: And pay 300 quid for well every time they did that
[3177.75] Frank: We got an email sent out saying you can't fly someone's in the hut
[3182.47] Frank: so
[3183.67] Frank: People who had jobs and went to work
[3187.75] Frank: And wanted the weekends to fly
[3190.47] Frank: We paid all our fees and when we got there, we were like, all right, let's go fly saturday
[3196.07] Frank: Oh someone's in the hut. You can't fly. So all the
[3200.45] Frank: Oap's
[3201.83] Frank: All retirees were flying the week and having fun. We got to the weekend and we couldn't fly
[3207.99] Frank: Um, yeah
[3209.43] Frank: So I went I paid my fees and went once last year literally once
[3215.11] Frank: So I put it to him
[3216.95] Frank: And I said like how about
[3219.43] Frank: Pay per fly i've just hung a fiver every time I go
[3224.23] Frank: If I can go and there's no one in the field, but then she didn't want to didn't want to know
[3229.03] Frank: so I didn't literally didn't join this year just
[3233.43] Frank: Got nowhere to fly now apart from like if I just fly when it wherever I want
[3238.31] Frank: Which is hard with an x-glass if I want to tune it and stuff, but
[3242.47] Koel: Yeah
[3247.11] Frank: It's just so annoying they didn't take the offer off of
[3250.87] Frank: Like a paper fly because you could literally get other people who didn't don't want to join
[3259.34] Frank: It might just turn up and go oh, yes a flying field up here or you can put you can you know, you know
[3264.3] Frank: You just you can fight a fiver or whatever to
[3267.1] Frank: To fly I don't know
[3268.94] Koel: Yeah paper paper rip
[3271.18] Frank: Yeah paper rip
[3273.82] Frank: Even if they gave you like
[3275.82] Frank: membership for half price and then you bung me in
[3279.74] Frank: Yeah, a couple of quid or something, I don't know
[3282.86] Frank: Just so that I can I can imagine there's some things they have to like just do anyway
[3288.46] Frank: Obviously they've got a higher the field from the farmer a certain amount every year
[3293.74] Frank: But there's enough in the kitty at the moment or there was when I looked for him to buy a mower and
[3299.98] Frank: Whatever, but it would have just been nice of you know
[3303.02] Frank: Because that that's literally going to die when when them guys go there's going to be no club anymore because there's going to be no
[3309.64] Frank: youngsters or
[3311.34] Frank: younger
[3313.74] Frank: For youngster anymore. No
[3316.7] Frank: Mid-range people
[3322.22] Frank: Yeah middle-aged people joining and and carrying all the club so it's just who's gonna die which off I'll fight it's
[3330.3] Frank: It's crap
[3332.46] Frank: All right
[3332.94] Frank: The bmfa are like trying to work out how to
[3336.46] Frank: Sell it to younger people, you know people under the age of 55. So, you know, you're still a young person by bmfa standards
[3343.1] Frank: i'm gonna tell that to
[3345.98] Frank: everyone
[3349.1] Frank: But I just think it would be a good idea to for a pay per fly
[3353.66] Frank: yeah
[3355.26] Frank: Who also like presumably they're going to be paying less to the farmer?
[3360.7] Frank: Because if the farmer's renting it out to someone else
[3364.78] Frank: Then surely he can't be charging you for it. Exactly. He's making
[3369.5] Frank: He's but he's making a lot more
[3372.46] Frank: On the weekends and then he does on the weekdays when we when we want to turn up and stuff, but
[3387.02] Frank: We'll make a new club
[3391.9] Frank: We did have one hidden rally didn't we but we had the same sort of
[3395.82] Frank: Thing that was nice because that was a pay per fly
[3400.42] Frank: I think I think that was that was how you should do it a paper fly
[3408.01] Frank: Does anyone know what's going on with bot grinder's place that he
[3413.72] Frank: He bought
[3415.16] Frank: Oh the the kickstarter one. Yeah, because he
[3420.92] Frank: Yeah, he got to go a place that he could fly and people could turn up flying
[3425.24] Frank: I think of watching videos. I don't see any him talking about it at all
[3430.52] Koel: Yeah, I think he's talking about it periodically
[3432.84] Koel: I think he's done some updates and you know clearing it and sort of starting to get it set up a bit
[3437.64] Koel: He's I guess he's gone out there a few times
[3440.2] Koel: But over the winter time and uh in that neck of the woods, it's pretty much frozen. So
[3445.32] Koel: Can't really do a whole lot. So
[3448.6] Frank: All right
[3449.4] Frank: We should give him give him an invite and see if we can get him back onto chat
[3453.8] Frank: but we were reached out to anyone in the last couple of months because uh, I know zoe's back on it and
[3460.68] Frank: It'd be great to get zoe back on yeah
[3463.64] Frank: Yeah, we actually missed the day
[3466.92] Koel: Yeah, we actually uh, so the I don't know if I talked about this last week, but
[3471.8] Koel: Yeah, it was zoe. Uh, zoe was on the podcast with the canadian guys. Uh when I was in taiwan and uh
[3479.4] Koel: Yeah, it looks like she's kind of been doing some more stuff and you guys see that there's this new um, actually in the news
[3485.24] Koel: There's like a mock one freestyle competition thing. I don't know if you guys have
[3490.76] Koel: I don't know if you've seen that at all, but um
[3493.4] Koel: I guess there's like a 30 second
[3496.92] Koel: 30 second no cut competition going on right now and there's a bunch of a bunch of people are are uh,
[3504.04] Koel: Are what do you call them?
[3506.76] Koel: Not contestants, but judges. Yeah, I think I think zoe may be one of them
[3511.64] Frank: So maybe maybe we should um, see if we can reach out out again to mako and zoe and see if we can get them on for
[3519.64] Frank: Right for a talk
[3521.64] Jack: Yeah, that'd be cool. Yeah, i'll
[3526.36] Frank: I'm sure i'm sure i'm still on speaking terms with both of them. So
[3531.24] Frank: We can
[3533.32] Frank: We can we can try we can have a go. I think that would be good
[3539.0] Jack: No, I thought that is all we have time for
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[3562.28] Jack: Tonight we've been joined by andry south frank. Bye
[3568.44] Jack: Uh, my darling wife tony
[3572.04] Jack: Bye
[3573.96] Jack: Hi, my buddy cole
[3576.04] Jack: See you
[3577.48] Jack: And i've been brought into the fly massive. Thank you to all our patrons. Thank you and good night
[3583.64] Koel: Bye telemetry lost