=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 455 ===
Title: LDO 455 - Two Stout Fellows (and Jack)
Recorded: 2024-05-16
Hosts: Stephen "Belrik" Howell, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 855
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMIhcPekMMM); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1824927234-letsdroneout-ldo-455-two-stout-fellows-and-jack.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons
[6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] Jack: we say.
[13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos!
[16.12] Jack: Art Faulkner.
[17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Frank: On with the show.
[20.68] Cookbook Club: Hello, and welcome to Let's Drone Out.
[56.58] Cookbook Club: And this week, by the fantastic Tone Star.
[60.5] Cookbook Club: Bonjour.
[61.5] Cookbook Club: And myself, Stephen, with the silly moustache, your favourite Doctor Robotnik impersonator.
[68.86] Cookbook Club: Jack will be joining us later, he's just a little bit busy right now, and we thought
[73.78] Cookbook Club: we'd go live near the normal time, so you don't all think we're skipping a show.
[79.38] Cookbook Club: He will be with us shortly.
[82.46] Cookbook Club: This week's Beer of the Week is a stout from Pressure Drop, and it's a coconut beer.
[89.18] Cookbook Club: It's a coconut and raspberry stout, of all things, which I'm choosing as my dessert
[94.3] Cookbook Club: after dinner today.
[95.3] Tony: Is that what they call a pastry stout?
[98.78] Cookbook Club: Mmm.
[99.78] Cookbook Club: Hmm.
[100.78] Tony: I'll forget to try one.
[103.7] Cookbook Club: Surprisingly more-ish.
[105.7] Cookbook Club: Probably will rot your teeth, there's a lot of sugar.
[109.18] Tony: How much, what percent, ten?
[111.1] Cookbook Club: Oh, this is only, I think this is just six and a half.
[114.02] Cookbook Club: So this is really one of a driving beer, really.
[120.5] Tony: Pressure Drop, we're a good company, I do like Pressure Drop.
[124.18] Tony: I've actually just started a YouTube channel on beer drinking.
[129.74] Tony: Oh, really?
[131.58] Tony: I want a fortune.
[133.58] Tony: Yeah, it's just me and my mate were doing it, and we were, I was collecting every single
[138.22] Tony: can.
[139.22] Tony: I've got so many cans, it's ridiculous, I had to put some in the loft.
[141.98] Tony: And I was like, how are we going to know what ones we like to know?
[145.82] Tony: Because we started a spreadsheet, and then we both couldn't be asked to add to it.
[149.06] Tony: Untagged, mate.
[150.06] Tony: Do you ever use that?
[152.06] Tony: Yeah, we have a few times.
[155.74] Cookbook Club: So this is Cookbook Club.
[156.74] Cookbook Club: Yeah, I just keep a list, because sometimes I come across stuff and I think, oh, that
[161.26] Cookbook Club: looks like a nice beer, I'll have that, but have I had it before?
[164.94] Cookbook Club: And then I'll look, and be like, oh yeah, I have had it before.
[167.42] Cookbook Club: It was dog water.
[168.42] Tony: Yeah.
[169.42] Cookbook Club: It's just got a clever name, you know?
[171.5] Tony: That's exactly what I'm doing.
[173.26] Tony: There was a Polys co-lab with Cloudwater last week, my drunker, I thought, oh, this is going
[178.42] Tony: to be smashing.
[180.42] Tony: Absolutely, pants, pardon me.
[183.34] Tony: And Polys is always spot on, Polys is such a good brewery.
[188.46] Tony: Cloudwater used to be, but I think they've gone downhill now.
[192.54] Tony: So I think it was Cloudwater made it not very good.
[195.1] Cookbook Club: Rest on your own, guys.
[197.1] Tony: Yeah, it was, meh, meh, it was lemony and just not all that good.
[204.14] Cookbook Club: I've just ordered a crate, well, two, two 12-packs from Lost and Grounded, because I'm
[212.3] Cookbook Club: rather fond of the Cezanne de Avon.
[215.66] Cookbook Club: Maybe it should be Cezanne de Avon, I don't know.
[219.1] Cookbook Club: Maybe it's supposed to illustrate like that.
[220.9] Cookbook Club: But anyway, it's like a Belgian style beer, but made in the UK, I think.
[226.42] Cookbook Club: They're up in the north somewhere, I'm not exactly sure where.
[229.46] Cookbook Club: But 6.5% comes in like half-litre cans.
[234.58] Cookbook Club: So you can drink it with a bit more abandon than you can the Belgian ones, but it's still
[240.94] Cookbook Club: got that lovely depth of flavour, which is quite nice.
[245.18] Tony: So what should we rename them?
[248.18] Tony: Let's run out.
[249.74] Tony: Let's drink out, yeah.
[254.34] Tony: Because let's face it.
[255.42] Tony: Now, have you flown?
[257.54] Cookbook Club: I have not flown, no, no, I've been, I think I may have cracked open the sim and did a
[264.78] Cookbook Club: little bit of sim bashing, but that's all.
[268.42] Tony: What I've done is watched the T50 Agra Stromes, is it?
[274.46] Tony: Or the DJI?
[276.3] Cookbook Club: The agricultural ones.
[278.42] Tony: Yeah, they're bloody brilliant.
[280.82] Tony: Have you seen any of that stuff?
[283.78] Cookbook Club: I bet you could probably go to work slung under one of those, couldn't you?
[287.54] Tony: I reckon it could carry me.
[290.46] Cookbook Club: Yeah, that'd be something.
[293.26] Cookbook Club: I did see Blood's video, Blood's posted a video of him going through Uncrashed and he
[298.62] Cookbook Club: gets like the gold medal on all of the tracks and to be honest, it's kind of sickening as
[303.46] Cookbook Club: I realised I've probably put hours into that simulator and I can just about scrape still
[308.66] Cookbook Club: from some of them, but he's just like nailing the gold medal on every track.
[313.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to be a racer, definitely not.
[318.7] Tony: Yeah, you've got to constantly do it.
[322.06] Tony: When I was doing it, I was, it was, well it started off passion, like I'd go out with
[327.9] Tony: the lads around here that I've met, quite a lot of good friends now from flying, but
[335.54] Tony: we used to just all go out, like no matter what the weather, even if it had rained, we'd
[340.98] Tony: go out because we were so like, come on let's set up some gates and go down to Hinn Valley
[345.74] Tony: or meet down there, set up gates and just fly all day every day and it was, you know,
[351.06] Tony: it was a thing to do back then because it was new and really cool.
[355.26] Cookbook Club: Yeah, and I saw it stratified a bit and the good guys were really good and you kind of
[360.7] Cookbook Club: know that yeah, you could maybe have a bit of a laugh but you're never going to be amazing,
[365.86] Cookbook Club: whereas I think back then there were so few people doing it, everyone was still learning
[370.18] Cookbook Club: and you could just get a lucky week and just, you know, tear through the field.
[374.26] Tony: Yeah, pretty much.
[375.26] Tony: I had some good times doing it and some good races, but yeah, it was just a lot of pressure
[383.1] Tony: of being in the top three, especially when you're sponsored and then trying to, you know,
[388.58] Tony: trying to drive everywhere every weekend and stuff like that, it was a bit too much.
[393.66] Cookbook Club: When it becomes more like a commitment rather than just a laugh, rather than something new
[398.3] Cookbook Club: you're exploring, you've got to watch out because it kind of brought the fun a bit.
[403.98] Tony: Yeah, it kind of did that.
[406.18] Tony: So I still don't know whether I'm going to go and do pop a next boss thing yet, to be
[411.46] Tony: honest.
[412.46] Tony: I probably will or just turn up and say hello to people that I haven't seen for a little
[419.38] Tony: while.
[420.38] Cookbook Club: Yeah, there's some interesting bits and bobs coming out still.
[424.94] Cookbook Club: A few new developments, I guess, that have appeared, I think, Curry, he's been busy coding,
[430.7] Cookbook Club: he's not been on the show, but he's having some luck getting apparently Wi-Fi joysticks
[436.46] Cookbook Club: or anything.
[437.46] Cookbook Club: I didn't know this, that you have Wi-Fi joysticks, but apparently you can and he's got them talking
[443.5] Cookbook Club: to a sim, which is interesting.
[446.1] Tony: What's the PlayStation and Bluetooth?
[447.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah, pretty much everything uses Bluetooth.
[451.62] Cookbook Club: I think the Nvidia Shield had like Wi-Fi direct, so Wi-Fi is supposed to be a bit lower latency,
[457.82] Cookbook Club: it's a bit more power hungry, but it's a bit faster.
[460.94] Cookbook Club: And apparently, ELRS has added some Wi-Fi support.
[463.98] Cookbook Club: I can't pretend to know how this stuff works.
[466.1] Cookbook Club: A lot of the time I'll be like, oh, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that protocol,
[470.02] Cookbook Club: that protocol.
[471.02] Cookbook Club: It uses some derivative of the Apple Pongjour thing that announces hardware and announces
[477.34] Cookbook Club: the joystick that way.
[478.34] Cookbook Club: But beyond that, I'm not too sure.
[481.34] Tony: I wouldn't have a clue.
[483.34] Cookbook Club: Yeah, well, anyway, he's getting that working for his coding sim, so that's cool.
[489.74] Cookbook Club: There's been a helicopter flight controller of all things, so something that you almost
[495.26] Cookbook Club: never ever hear, because by and large, helis don't really get modified, do they?
[503.06] Cookbook Club: They're kind of, you buy it and you stick with it, you're not putting any flight controller
[507.38] Cookbook Club: in your heli.
[509.34] Cookbook Club: But RadioMaster have released just that, they've released a flight controller for helis, which
[515.7] Cookbook Club: is kind of nuts.
[516.7] Cookbook Club: They call it the Nexus.
[518.7] Tony: I think I had a, what didn't I have something called Nexus, wasn't it?
[525.1] Tony: Wasn't it a Tesco or something, iPad-y thing, the Nexus?
[529.62] Cookbook Club: That was the, Google used to have a tablet called the Nexus.
[532.7] Tony: Yeah, that's it.
[533.7] Tony: Yeah.
[534.7] Cookbook Club: So this doesn't look like it.
[536.42] Cookbook Club: That's what you got.
[537.78] Cookbook Club: Pretty beefy, obviously, heli's not too worried about lift and weight with that damn great
[543.38] Cookbook Club: rotor.
[544.38] Cookbook Club: So they put it in a big fat aluminium shell, CNC, pretty nice.
[550.26] Cookbook Club: I imagine that could take a direct hit without too much trouble.
[554.18] Cookbook Club: And obviously, they're doing this as a bundle with their own Express RS receivers, you've
[558.9] Cookbook Club: got a little plug and go cable for their Express RS kit.
[563.78] Cookbook Club: You've got a whole bunch of other bugs for stuff.
[567.34] Cookbook Club: I don't know what, I presume this thing can take GPS as well, I'm guessing.
[572.1] Cookbook Club: It's got a USB-C socket.
[574.18] Cookbook Club: It's got headers for about a million different servos, or whatever you do with servos on heli.
[583.38] Cookbook Club: And this is designed to run rotor flight.
[585.86] Cookbook Club: Rotor flight is a fork with beta flight, they forked in about 4.3.
[591.18] Cookbook Club: And they've had a whole bunch of success.
[593.02] Cookbook Club: I think we've mentioned Dr. Rudder in the past, who appears to be the pseudonym and
[598.3] Cookbook Club: developer there.
[599.3] Tony: One of Jack's favourite phrases.
[602.3] Cookbook Club: Yeah, Dutch Rudder.
[604.18] Cookbook Club: We don't know if he's Dutch or not, but that's just a rumour.
[610.26] Cookbook Club: You can do RPM filtering, obviously, with a heli.
[612.74] Cookbook Club: You really want some RPM filtering because that thing's going to shake itself for pieces.
[619.3] Cookbook Club: You've got 128 megs of flash, which is pretty generous, so you can log your flights and
[624.3] Cookbook Club: tune this thing.
[625.3] Cookbook Club: So this is like a serious helicopter flight controller for people who want to tune their
[630.54] Cookbook Club: helis and plug in GPS's into all sorts of crazy stuff.
[635.54] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[636.54] Cookbook Club: It remains to be seen how big the market is, but I imagine at this point, ready a master,
[642.78] Cookbook Club: just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks.
[645.02] Cookbook Club: They put out that MT12 car controller, and I'm starting to see some of the racers pick
[650.22] Cookbook Club: that up.
[651.22] Cookbook Club: These people who go and record crazy times screaming around with 112th, 110th scale RC
[658.86] Cookbook Club: cars, and it seems to have been popular with them.
[661.62] Cookbook Club: So maybe they'll see some support in the heli community as well.
[666.7] Tony: I bought some of them RC car racing, looks quite good.
[672.8] Tony: I don't know if I'd be able to control it from up on the side.
[677.8] Tony: I probably would, but not...
[681.8] Tony: I'd like the outdoor ones though.
[683.8] Tony: There's actually an outdoor circuit at my local shooty place, airsoft place.
[691.8] Cookbook Club: Oh, cool.
[692.8] Cookbook Club: Fair few and far between.
[693.8] Tony: It's a nice day.
[695.8] Tony: Yeah.
[696.8] Tony: I should take my truck and that around there, really.
[700.8] Cookbook Club: It looks like it does high speed servos as well.
[703.8] Cookbook Club: So you've got...
[705.8] Cookbook Club: I don't know what these...
[706.8] Cookbook Club: I think that this is...
[707.8] Tony: One-shot monkey shot and de-shot there.
[710.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[711.8] Cookbook Club: Obviously de-shot, yeah.
[713.8] Cookbook Club: I mean, you've got ESC frequency sensor as well.
[716.8] Cookbook Club: I don't know.
[717.8] Cookbook Club: That's a bit odd.
[718.8] Cookbook Club: Presumably if you've got BL Heli 32, you can take frequency off there, but obviously you
[722.8] Cookbook Club: just do that off de-shocks.
[723.8] Cookbook Club: It works better.
[727.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, interesting.
[728.8] Cookbook Club: Hopefully this takes off.
[730.8] Cookbook Club: We see a bit of an explosion in Heli's because I think it's been kind of a locked down, very
[737.8] Cookbook Club: expensive market.
[738.8] Cookbook Club: There hasn't been a lot of hobbyist input into Heli's until you get to the real premium
[743.8] Cookbook Club: stuff, but this could open it up for more low budget experimentation.
[749.8] Cookbook Club: The people build Heli's?
[751.8] Cookbook Club: I guess at the really big end they do, right?
[753.8] Cookbook Club: It's like anything.
[754.8] Cookbook Club: You get to the really fancy planes and everything above a certain size is basically a custom
[758.8] Cookbook Club: job, isn't it?
[762.8] Cookbook Club: I can't say I know.
[764.8] Cookbook Club: The only Heli I've got is a toy.
[766.8] Cookbook Club: I've never bothered to get a serious one.
[768.8] Cookbook Club: But I have heard that some of the models that NJ was looking at, there was a very popular
[775.8] Cookbook Club: manufacturer and he had a completely blank...
[780.8] Cookbook Club: manufacturer's name, but I think they were working with the rotor flight guys to get
[785.8] Cookbook Club: compatibility with some of their models as an aftermarket upgrade.
[791.8] Tony: Would you reckon the USB-C for updating and stuff?
[795.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, yeah, and configuration.
[797.8] Cookbook Club: They've got a configurator like Betaflight's got rebranded from rotor flight.
[801.8] Cookbook Club: Oh, right.
[802.8] Tony: They've got the USB-C as well.
[805.8] Cookbook Club: 80 bucks though, but you're paying a lot to get that aluminium shell, to get the tool
[809.8] Cookbook Club: into that one-off bit of aluminium is probably where most of the money's gone.
[815.8] Cookbook Club: Anyway, yeah.
[817.8] Cookbook Club: Something different.
[818.8] Cookbook Club: It's always nice to see something a bit different, see some experiments happening.
[822.8] Cookbook Club: People...
[823.8] Cookbook Club: Because otherwise the hobby doesn't grow if people don't take risks.
[826.8] Cookbook Club: So, we'll see.
[829.8] Tony: Right, back to beer.
[830.8] Cookbook Club: Beer.
[831.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[832.8] Cookbook Club: Do you have any beer?
[833.8] Cookbook Club: No.
[834.8] Tony: Beerless house.
[835.8] Tony: It is beerless.
[836.8] Tony: Outrage.
[838.8] Tony: I know.
[839.8] Tony: I will ride to my local beer shop tomorrow and get three.
[846.8] Tony: And I'm thinking about getting a pastry stout.
[850.8] Cookbook Club: They're quite yummy.
[851.8] Cookbook Club: They're probably bad for you because it's basically like a syrup in a can.
[855.8] Tony: Well, I've had one good and one bad.
[857.8] Tony: I've had one co-op one my neighbour gave me.
[860.8] Tony: It was a coffee and chocolate.
[861.8] Tony: Look, it was absolutely lovely.
[864.8] Cookbook Club: I haven't had coffee in a while.
[866.8] Tony: And then I had one in a can and it was absolutely disgusting.
[871.8] Tony: I didn't like it at all.
[873.8] Tony: What they released...
[876.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, so I was just going to show Rotor Flight.
[879.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, so they just released the official version to May 15th.
[884.8] Cookbook Club: So I guess that contributed to the outpouring of hardware here,
[891.8] Cookbook Club: we're seeing from RadioMaster.
[894.8] Cookbook Club: This was it.
[895.8] Cookbook Club: The M7.
[896.8] Cookbook Club: That was...
[897.8] Cookbook Club: OMP.
[898.8] Cookbook Club: That was it.
[899.8] Cookbook Club: OMP hobby.
[900.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, that was the brand that was quite keen on it.
[903.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[904.8] Cookbook Club: They just scare the hell out of me.
[906.8] Cookbook Club: Well, hellies.
[907.8] Cookbook Club: Well, yeah, they are pretty deadly.
[909.8] Cookbook Club: You can hit yourself with a five inch and you might walk away from that.
[913.8] Cookbook Club: But, you know, you lose fingers pretty quickly on hellies, don't you?
[917.8] Tony: Yeah.
[918.8] Tony: It's a bit scary.
[919.8] Tony: It's scary.
[920.8] Tony: Well, I've had a cut to the face, so...
[922.8] Cookbook Club: Yeah, if you'd had a hellie to the face,
[924.8] Cookbook Club: your head may have been slightly too far away from your body to the plane power.
[929.8] Tony: Yeah, sold that.
[934.18] Cookbook Club: Yeah, absolutely sold that.
[937.18] Cookbook Club: But yeah, they've laid out a whole bunch of design requirements
[940.18] Cookbook Club: and reference designs out of...
[944.18] Cookbook Club: It's looking very serious, which is nice.
[947.18] Cookbook Club: Well, congrats to them.
[949.18] Cookbook Club: Good luck.
[951.18] Cookbook Club: Keep your fingers...
[952.18] Tony: Last time, Jake, come on and talk about it.
[954.18] Tony: I wonder if he...
[955.18] Cookbook Club: I think I did pester him last time and asked if he'd experimented,
[959.18] Cookbook Club: but he was flying his stuff stock, I think,
[961.18] Cookbook Club: and just enjoying the flying without too much noodling around.
[966.18] Cookbook Club: I think with hellies, you can just fly them stock,
[968.18] Cookbook Club: whereas a lot of quad stuff,
[970.18] Cookbook Club: you've really got to know how this stuff works
[972.18] Cookbook Club: because you just get stranded otherwise.
[975.18] Cookbook Club: A lot of hellie users, they're not changing anything.
[978.18] Cookbook Club: I might be getting this driver out replacing some hardware,
[981.18] Cookbook Club: but they're not touching the software, are they?
[984.18] Tony: No.
[985.18] Tony: Well, you can buy all that Nazgol...
[987.18] Tony: Is it Nazgol drones now?
[989.18] Tony: They're already done, aren't they?
[991.18] Tony: Yeah.
[992.18] Cookbook Club: LED strips down the side.
[994.18] Cookbook Club: How do you feel about that with a whole plastic body and LED strips?
[1000.18] Tony: Pass.
[1002.18] Cookbook Club: Is that like seeing a fiesta drive past with some lights underneath
[1007.18] Cookbook Club: and you're a bit like, hmm...
[1009.18] Tony: Bring back the 90s.
[1011.18] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1012.18] Cookbook Club: A guy gets out, he's got curtains.
[1017.18] Tony: Curtains gone.
[1018.18] Tony: God, are you going back now?
[1020.18] Tony: Yeah.
[1021.18] Tony: I'm just literally booking my half-a-century-old birthday party,
[1028.18] Tony: and I'm just looking at...
[1030.18] Tony: I can't see lights, Alice.
[1032.18] Tony: And I'm literally just looking at all the 90s dance tunes.
[1037.18] Tony: I was playing some while in the shower and going,
[1040.18] Tony: yeah, I've got to have this one.
[1042.18] Cookbook Club: It's L2 on a ragged hip.
[1044.18] Tony: Yeah, if that's one of them.
[1046.18] Tony: Yeah, all that sort of stuff.
[1048.18] Tony: So I've got to go through what I like and send a big playlist.
[1055.18] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1056.18] Cookbook Club: You've got to lock that playlist down,
[1058.18] Cookbook Club: otherwise that DJ is going to be up there,
[1060.18] Cookbook Club: like playing the Venga Boys again and again,
[1062.18] Cookbook Club: until you've got to murder yourself.
[1064.18] Tony: I'll murder him.
[1070.54] Tony: You haven't got many people in the chat tonight, have you?
[1073.54] Cookbook Club: Well, we started late, and unfortunately our regular is out.
[1077.54] Cookbook Club: We also don't have a specific topic.
[1079.54] Cookbook Club: It has not just been a quiet news week.
[1081.54] Cookbook Club: I think it's been a quiet news year.
[1084.54] Cookbook Club: There ain't a lot happening.
[1086.54] Cookbook Club: Do you zero put out a monitor, big work, a monitor?
[1090.54] Tony: Seeing us or who did a watch?
[1097.02] Tony: I can't remember his name.
[1099.02] Tony: He's been on the show about the time.
[1102.02] Tony: I watched him do it anyway.
[1103.02] Tony: Oh my God, what's his name?
[1108.02] Tony: He's got a pen tattoo.
[1111.02] Tony: Oh.
[1112.02] Cookbook Club: Not painless.
[1115.02] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1117.02] Cookbook Club: Botgrinder.
[1118.02] Tony: I even bought his goddamn motors.
[1122.02] Cookbook Club: I bought his t-shirt and the print wash stuff.
[1124.02] Cookbook Club: I was quite sad about that.
[1126.02] Cookbook Club: No, man.
[1127.02] Cookbook Club: The one with the black metal kind of botgrinder logo.
[1132.02] Cookbook Club: It's a lovely soft bit of cotton,
[1134.02] Cookbook Club: but the print didn't appear, unfortunately.
[1138.02] Tony: I actually need to buy some t-shirts.
[1140.02] Tony: I need some for the summer.
[1142.02] Tony: I might have to look at buying into some different...
[1145.02] Tony: Do we still sell LDO t-shirts?
[1148.02] Tony: Yeah, yeah.
[1149.02] Cookbook Club: There's a teespring shop that's on the main site.
[1151.02] Cookbook Club: Go grab one.
[1153.02] Cookbook Club: All right, I'll have a look.
[1154.02] Tony: I'm going to have to buy a new one.
[1156.02] Tony: Not outgrowing the other one.
[1158.02] Tony: I think it's too much beer.
[1161.02] Cookbook Club: It's because you're too ripped, Tony.
[1163.02] Tony: That's what it is.
[1165.02] Tony: That's what I keep telling myself
[1167.02] Tony: when I suck my belly in.
[1169.02] Cookbook Club: Two hench around the shoulders.
[1172.02] Cookbook Club: I need a new shirt.
[1173.02] Cookbook Club: It's just happening.
[1175.02] Cookbook Club: I've got to put my body on.
[1177.02] Tony: Oh, God.
[1179.02] Tony: It's already here, isn't it?
[1181.02] Tony: It's so off.
[1182.02] Tony: It's been a lovely week last week.
[1184.02] Cookbook Club: Rain, sun, rain, sun, rain, sun.
[1186.02] Cookbook Club: You're like, yeah, it's lovely.
[1187.02] Cookbook Club: I'll go out tomorrow.
[1188.02] Cookbook Club: There's so much sun.
[1189.02] Cookbook Club: And then just storm.
[1191.02] Tony: Yeah, yesterday was absolutely gorgeous.
[1193.02] Tony: And then today I've not worked.
[1195.02] Tony: I've just literally sat around all day.
[1199.02] Cookbook Club: I saw a toolkit.
[1200.02] Cookbook Club: RC dropped a new charger.
[1201.02] Cookbook Club: That was the only other thing.
[1202.02] Cookbook Club: And they're like, ooh, a touchscreen charger.
[1204.02] Cookbook Club: I'm like, wait, what year is it?
[1206.02] Cookbook Club: Like, are we meant to be impressed by this?
[1208.02] Cookbook Club: It's great.
[1209.02] Cookbook Club: It's got touchscreen.
[1210.02] Cookbook Club: So if anything, I'd rather have like clicky buttons
[1214.42] Cookbook Club: so I know I've absolutely pressed that button.
[1217.42] Cookbook Club: I know I've definitely set.
[1219.42] Cookbook Club: But it's gone tick.
[1221.42] Cookbook Club: And I've definitely set it to that voltage.
[1223.42] Tony: And I haven't that simply left my fingerprints everywhere.
[1227.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1229.42] Cookbook Club: But I'm sure also that it's not new to have touchscreen.
[1233.42] Cookbook Club: It'd really be brand new to have touchscreen on it.
[1236.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, I don't know.
[1238.42] Cookbook Club: What do you want from a charger?
[1239.42] Cookbook Club: You want no fire and maybe like something
[1243.42] Cookbook Club: that like give you status update on your phone
[1246.42] Cookbook Club: and be like, your batteries will be done in five minutes.
[1249.42] Tony: Yeah, that's good.
[1251.42] Tony: I've had that before.
[1252.42] Tony: I don't know what charger it was that I had that.
[1255.42] Tony: But I definitely used it.
[1256.42] Tony: But I think you had to plug it in.
[1258.42] Tony: And it was another plug-in thing.
[1260.42] Tony: But having it built in would be good.
[1263.42] Tony: Plus, I like that roller.
[1265.42] Tony: ISTD is it when you click it and roll?
[1268.42] Tony: That's nice.
[1270.42] Tony: I like that.
[1272.42] Cookbook Club: ISTT.
[1274.42] Tony: Is that the one? ISTT?
[1276.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, not an STD.
[1279.42] Cookbook Club: That's not their branding.
[1281.42] Cookbook Club: Like, it's the Apple STD, ISTD.
[1285.42] Tony: You don't like that?
[1287.42] Cookbook Club: No.
[1289.42] Tony: That's a bad charger.
[1291.42] Cookbook Club: Did you go to the Apple Summer Party?
[1293.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, I have the ISTD.
[1299.42] Tony: It was a good time, though.
[1301.42] Tony: Yeah.
[1303.42] Tony: No.
[1304.42] Tony: Yeah, I do like the scroll wheel and the clickiness of that.
[1308.42] UNKNOWN: It's nice.
[1309.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, it does help.
[1311.42] Cookbook Club: Just something that doesn't take up too much space.
[1314.42] Cookbook Club: I'm quite a fan of stuff that have the AC power supply built in.
[1317.42] Cookbook Club: Because, let's face it, most of my charging is done at home.
[1320.42] Cookbook Club: Like, I charge and then I go out.
[1322.42] Cookbook Club: So I quite like to have AC built in.
[1326.42] Stephen: People talk about safety and they're like,
[1328.42] Cookbook Club: oh, I'm really safe, really capable, really careful.
[1331.42] Cookbook Club: And then I'm like, well, so what?
[1333.42] Cookbook Club: You're running it off.
[1334.42] Cookbook Club: Oh, yeah, I've got this DC power supply and you look at it.
[1337.42] Cookbook Club: And it's like a server, a computer server power supply
[1340.42] Cookbook Club: that they've just covered with solder.
[1343.42] Cookbook Club: You're like, what?
[1345.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, yeah, it can do like 300 amps.
[1348.42] Cookbook Club: It's amazing.
[1349.42] Cookbook Club: I'm like, but there's no safety casing on it.
[1352.42] Cookbook Club: It's just sitting on the floor and it's all hand soldered.
[1356.42] Tony: When I'm charging doors, I do it in a wok or a frame hand.
[1362.42] Tony: Yeah.
[1363.42] Cookbook Club: Just in case.
[1364.42] Tony: So I can just run out the door like that.
[1367.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1370.42] Cookbook Club: Oh, I always wonder, like, could I open the window
[1374.42] Cookbook Club: or maybe not even open the window.
[1376.42] Cookbook Club: Just smash the window.
[1381.42] Tony: Are you in a flat or a house?
[1383.42] Tony: I'm up on the first floor.
[1385.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1386.42] Tony: Yeah, you need to leave a window open all the time.
[1389.42] Tony: Yeah.
[1390.42] Cookbook Club: Yeah, it wouldn't hurt.
[1393.77] Tony: Do you keep your batteries in your house?
[1395.77] Tony: I do.
[1396.77] Cookbook Club: I do.
[1397.77] Cookbook Club: I've cut the seals out of a few ammo cans for storage
[1400.77] Cookbook Club: and I've got a bat safe charging.
[1403.77] Tony: Oh, that's good.
[1405.77] Tony: Good.
[1406.77] Cookbook Club: I think I was going to take my little quad out to the park,
[1410.77] Cookbook Club: but this being England,
[1412.77] Cookbook Club: like the first chance that the sun goes through...
[1415.77] Cookbook Club: Well, the first time the sun goes through the clouds,
[1418.77] Cookbook Club: any piece of grass is covered by people taking their t-shirts off
[1423.77] Cookbook Club: desperately trying to get skin cancer before the clouds come in again.
[1427.77] Cookbook Club: And so every five yards there was just another group of people lying down.
[1432.77] Cookbook Club: So I'm like, yeah, I'll fly anywhere.
[1434.77] Cookbook Club: Yeah, this is ludicrous.
[1436.77] Frank: Rubbish, isn't it?
[1438.77] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1439.77] Cookbook Club: Boo.
[1441.77] Cookbook Club: The skaters are not too against me kind of flying around behind them,
[1445.77] Cookbook Club: keeping a safe distance.
[1447.77] Cookbook Club: So I do fly around near the skate park.
[1450.77] Cookbook Club: That's all right.
[1452.77] Tony: I've done that once where I live,
[1454.77] Tony: flew around the skaters.
[1456.77] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1457.77] Cookbook Club: I don't fly around them.
[1458.77] Cookbook Club: I just fly near that bit because they're usually like...
[1461.77] Cookbook Club: They've normally got music blaring.
[1464.77] Cookbook Club: And so between the music blaring and them having a good fat smoke,
[1470.77] Cookbook Club: people don't like cluster around the area.
[1473.77] Cookbook Club: So I just stand and listen to them blast out some old sublime or something.
[1479.77] Cookbook Club: And yeah, flying the drones.
[1483.77] Tony: Dare we talk about it?
[1485.77] Tony: Can we talk about...
[1487.77] Tony: Have you seen the FPV drones in...
[1491.77] Tony: Oh, there he is.
[1492.77] Tony: I won't say it.
[1493.77] Cookbook Club: The FPV drones in where?
[1495.77] Cookbook Club: In Gatwick, was it Tony?
[1497.77] Cookbook Club: No.
[1498.77] Cookbook Club: No.
[1499.77] Cookbook Club: No.
[1500.77] Tony: Hello, Jack.
[1502.77] Jack: Hello, how are you doing?
[1504.77] Tony: Glad you can finally join your podcast.
[1510.77] Jack: I know.
[1511.77] Jack: I do apologize.
[1512.77] Jack: I am so not organised.
[1519.77] Jack: How was moving?
[1523.77] Jack: Like super stressful.
[1526.77] Jack: It's just...
[1528.77] Jack: Yeah, really difficult.
[1532.08] Jack: And I just don't feel like I've got enough time in the day to, like, sort anything.
[1540.08] Cookbook Club: Do you have the same things that you started out with?
[1543.08] Cookbook Club: Did everything make the trip and not get smooshed?
[1546.08] Jack: I don't fully know.
[1549.08] Jack: I'd be lying if I said...
[1552.08] Tony: Oh, it was totally unpacked.
[1554.08] Jack: Yeah.
[1556.08] Jack: Give it another five or ten years.
[1558.08] Cookbook Club: Get them in the end.
[1560.08] Jack: Yeah, I mean...
[1563.08] Jack: I mean, I never fully got...
[1566.08] Jack: Yeah, I never fully recovered.
[1569.08] Jack: I haven't got the desk anymore.
[1572.08] Jack: The desk did not survive.
[1574.08] Jack: It got cut up.
[1577.08] Tony: Oh, no.
[1578.08] Jack: So I haven't got...
[1579.08] Jack: You didn't have enough tape.
[1582.36] Tony: We'll get another one now, Jack.
[1584.36] Jack: Yeah, I've got to somehow build another desk.
[1589.36] Jack: Was it a full desk or was it just a bit of ply? I can't remember.
[1593.36] Jack: It was an old conference table that got sawn up.
[1599.36] Jack: And it was assembled.
[1603.36] Jack: And I had my drawers either side.
[1606.36] Jack: So Frank did ask me...
[1609.36] Jack: I went and helped Frank the other day and he asked me, like,
[1614.36] Jack: what's the first thing you're going to build, you know,
[1617.36] Jack: all set up and stuff.
[1619.36] Jack: And I was talking about the old tricopter,
[1622.36] Jack: because I've been enjoying Curry.
[1627.36] Jack: He's got some tricoptera action coming up,
[1630.36] Jack: and he's like upgraded some of the 450 size quads.
[1634.36] Jack: And I think...
[1636.36] Jack: I think it's now been enough time that, like,
[1639.36] Jack: those sorts of things are quite a spectacle.
[1643.36] Cookbook Club: Is that growing in the 450s?
[1646.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1647.36] Cookbook Club: It's got, like, the latest firmware,
[1649.36] Cookbook Club: freaking RPM filtering, ELRS and all that crap.
[1652.36] Cookbook Club: Still got analog VTXs on them,
[1654.36] Cookbook Club: but thrashing the crap out of another 450,
[1657.36] Cookbook Club: which is quite fun to see.
[1659.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1661.36] Jack: But, yeah, everything kind of shambles.
[1664.36] Jack: It's like I haven't found everything.
[1668.36] Jack: It's weird being back.
[1670.36] Jack: I still get...
[1673.36] Jack: It was obviously, like, really traumatic having to leave here,
[1678.36] Jack: and I sometimes, like, wander around,
[1681.36] Jack: and I find myself getting upset,
[1684.36] Jack: because I was obviously really upset to leave.
[1688.36] Jack: But I'm back now.
[1690.36] Jack: I don't feel very secure.
[1693.36] Jack: He tried winging in the corners.
[1696.36] Jack: Yeah, I know. It feels like that.
[1700.36] Tony: Has anything changed in there?
[1702.36] Tony: Did they change anything?
[1705.36] Jack: No.
[1706.36] Jack: Like, it's still, like, very, you know, very similar.
[1713.36] Jack: Same layout.
[1714.36] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1715.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1716.36] Jack: You know, and I've kind of, like, brought,
[1719.36] Jack: you know, I've brought most of my stuff with me.
[1721.36] Jack: I've kind of blacked it out,
[1724.36] Jack: because we were recording and stuff.
[1729.36] Jack: But, yeah, I mean, the desk...
[1731.36] Jack: I mean, the desk is a complete cluster...
[1733.36] Jack: You know, I would have been here much sooner
[1736.36] Jack: if I'd, like, remembered to plug in, like, the webcam and stuff.
[1741.36] Jack: And it's just, like, you go and join this call,
[1744.36] Jack: and, you know, OBS is trying to be the webcam,
[1747.36] Jack: and you're like...
[1749.36] Jack: Nope.
[1750.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1751.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1752.36] Jack: And half the LEDs on my computer aren't lighting up.
[1759.36] Jack: The audio interface is on the top of the PC.
[1765.36] Tony: You can't just expect to be in there,
[1767.36] Tony: a way you can everything be perfect.
[1770.36] Tony: It takes years to make a house.
[1773.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1774.36] Tony: I know you left there, and then you've gone back,
[1776.36] Tony: but you've chopped things up, probably throwing stuff away.
[1779.36] Cookbook Club: Think of it as an opportunity to make a few improvements.
[1783.36] Cookbook Club: So, before you unpack, you know, you could just, you know,
[1786.36] Cookbook Club: phrase it and be like, right, maybe I'm going to scrounge up
[1791.99] Cookbook Club: some extra bits and pieces, you know,
[1793.99] Cookbook Club: maybe end up with something that makes a better desk
[1796.99] Cookbook Club: than you had before, maybe end up with more storage space.
[1800.99] Cookbook Club: Who knows?
[1801.99] Jack: Yeah.
[1802.99] Jack: I mean, the thing is, with that desk that I was working on
[1806.99] Jack: and building Tony's, you know, Tony's X-Class and stuff,
[1814.99] Jack: that was the best version of that desk.
[1820.99] Jack: It had multiple iterations to the point where, you know,
[1824.99] Jack: I had like this, I basically bought half a hexagon table
[1829.99] Jack: and it was tiny.
[1832.99] Jack: If anyone owned the complete guide to drones volume one,
[1837.99] Jack: there's a picture of my desk.
[1840.99] Jack: It's tiny.
[1841.99] Tony: It's in there, isn't it?
[1843.99] Jack: I didn't have a PC.
[1845.99] Jack: It was a laptop, and that used to like wedge between the wall
[1850.99] Jack: and the window seal and the desk,
[1852.99] Jack: and it has like a bottle of tango on there.
[1855.99] Jack: And that's how it was.
[1857.99] Jack: It was just a soldering iron.
[1859.99] Jack: You know, there was no power supply.
[1861.99] Jack: That was a Frank improvement.
[1863.99] Jack: Frank bought me my first power supply.
[1868.99] Jack: So, yeah, it kind of, in a weird way, I've been kind of like...
[1872.99] Tony: I grew with you.
[1874.99] Jack: Yeah, you know, it was like a new phase.
[1878.99] Tony: This can be a rebirth of you and the desk.
[1883.99] Cookbook Club: Do you have a bay window?
[1885.99] Cookbook Club: Is it in a bay?
[1886.99] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[1887.99] Cookbook Club: Like a hexagonal base.
[1888.99] Cookbook Club: So that's where you want the hexagonal table.
[1891.99] Jack: Well, it'd be like a pair...
[1894.99] Jack: What is it?
[1895.99] Jack: Trapeze.
[1897.99] Cookbook Club: So you're going to go for like a command console
[1899.99] Cookbook Club: where it actually like reaches around you either side.
[1901.99] Cookbook Club: No.
[1902.99] Cookbook Club: It's at the middle and you can like spin around
[1904.99] Cookbook Club: and the desk carries on that side.
[1906.99] Tony: So that would actually.
[1907.99] Jack: Yeah.
[1908.99] Jack: It's tempting, but yeah, there needs to be
[1911.99] Jack: like other rooms for activities.
[1914.99] Jack: I probably won't make it as deep as I did last time.
[1917.99] Cookbook Club: So much space for activities.
[1919.99] Jack: Yeah.
[1920.99] Jack: I mean, that's all that everyone kept saying
[1923.99] Jack: once I'd moved half the crap out of there
[1927.99] Jack: was like how much bigger the place was.
[1930.99] Jack: I'd like hoarded myself in.
[1934.99] Jack: There was an element of like extreme hoarders.
[1938.99] Tony: Have you thrown anything away?
[1940.99] Tony: I've thrown tons of stuff.
[1943.99] Jack: Who did you move?
[1944.99] Tony: I did.
[1945.99] Tony: I was just like, some things I regret,
[1948.99] Tony: some things I don't care.
[1949.99] Cookbook Club: The amount of shit I've put up in the loft,
[1952.99] Cookbook Club: I've just been like, yeah, I might sell that thing.
[1954.99] Cookbook Club: So I'll keep the box for it.
[1956.99] Cookbook Club: Oh, I've got all my boxes for everything.
[1960.99] Cookbook Club: I've got that private of my dad
[1962.99] Cookbook Club: and I think it's a terrible habit because
[1964.99] Cookbook Club: it is.
[1965.99] Cookbook Club: I sell practically nothing.
[1967.99] Cookbook Club: I've just got boxes for everything stuffed into the loft.
[1970.99] Jack: It does.
[1971.99] Jack: I'm the same.
[1973.99] Jack: I keep like, you know, it is handy
[1976.99] Jack: because like, you know, I like flip a certain thing
[1979.99] Jack: on eBay like graphics card and that.
[1981.99] Jack: And it's quite, I wonder if it does improve
[1985.99] Jack: the resale value, but part of me singing
[1988.99] Jack: to what degree does it.
[1990.99] Jack: I mean, it makes it easier to pack, you know,
[1993.99] Jack: because you've got this like perfectly cut
[1996.99] Jack: wedge of foam, but
[1998.99] Cookbook Club: for really high value items, like specific
[2001.99] Cookbook Club: graphics cards and pieces of electronics
[2003.99] Cookbook Club: that fit precisely in that box, maybe.
[2005.99] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2006.99] Cookbook Club: If I was only doing that,
[2009.99] Cookbook Club: I'd be laughing, you know.
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[2035.99] Frank: forward slash let's drone out.
[2037.99] Tony: So, we've got to find you a desk then.
[2040.99] Jack: Yeah, I need a big enough bit of work to build.
[2043.99] Tony: Oh, you've got your tricopter.
[2045.99] Jack: Yeah.
[2046.99] Tony: So, you're first being his desk and then
[2048.99] Tony: you can get on with,
[2049.99] Tony: what are you going to do with that?
[2050.99] Tony: There's not much improvement you can do on that.
[2052.99] Jack: Well, there's a Kukute because that's a
[2055.99] Jack: that's a F1 board.
[2059.99] Jack: This is an F3 board.
[2061.99] Jack: Stephen's going to look at me like
[2063.99] Jack: that's already out of date, I know.
[2065.99] Tony: It will make it fly better though.
[2067.99] Cookbook Club: Jack, it was out of date before I started
[2069.99] Cookbook Club: the show.
[2070.99] Cookbook Club: It's not already out of date.
[2072.99] Cookbook Club: It's been out of date for the last decade, mate.
[2075.99] Cookbook Club: I know.
[2076.99] Cookbook Club: Well, actually no, that's unfair.
[2078.99] Cookbook Club: If you went back to 2016,
[2080.99] Cookbook Club: it was probably flyable in 2016.
[2082.99] Cookbook Club: It's not a decade.
[2084.99] Cookbook Club: It's like seven.
[2086.99] Tony: Apparently, that looks big enough to
[2087.99] Tony: rise at Pop'em.
[2089.99] Jack: It feels like it.
[2092.99] Tony: What is it?
[2093.99] Cookbook Club: What have you got there?
[2094.99] Cookbook Club: It's kind of in shadow.
[2096.99] Cookbook Club: I can't see.
[2098.99] Tony: It's a tricopter, isn't it?
[2099.99] Tony: Those arms are so thin.
[2101.99] Jack: Yeah, it's carbon fiber.
[2104.99] Tony: It's a lovely model.
[2105.99] Tony: I don't know if I've seen you fly that one.
[2108.99] Jack: Yeah, see, RC Explorer.
[2111.99] Jack: I can't because it's got a PWM receiver,
[2116.99] Jack: so that means I'd have to...
[2119.99] Cookbook Club: Can we address the fact that when people say RC,
[2123.99] Cookbook Club: it sounds a lot like RC.
[2126.99] Tony: We always say that.
[2127.99] Cookbook Club: And the number of products that are RC.
[2131.99] Tony: It's loads of RCs.
[2132.99] Tony: It's gotten out of control, really.
[2133.99] Cookbook Club: But, yeah, it's like City Walk in South Park.
[2138.99] Tony: Yeah.
[2139.99] Tony: I've never flown one.
[2141.99] Tony: I've watched David fly with the old GoPros on and stuff
[2146.99] Tony: before they had stabilization and it looked quite good.
[2150.99] Tony: I remember they're quite swooshy,
[2152.99] Tony: wasn't it?
[2153.99] Tony: Is that the word?
[2154.99] Jack: Yeah, they fly in between a plane and a quad, really.
[2162.99] Jack: That's my only real way.
[2165.99] Jack: And back in the day, I remember...
[2172.99] Jack: I think I enjoyed having that mini tricopter
[2178.99] Jack: because it was kind of like a novelty
[2180.99] Jack: and it kind of made me feel like I kind of stood out a bit,
[2186.99] Jack: you know, because I enjoyed building and overcoming that.
[2190.99] Jack: But I'm definitely not going to sit here and be like,
[2194.99] Jack: it flew amazing.
[2196.99] Jack: It didn't.
[2197.99] Jack: It flew like...
[2198.99] Jack: It flew?
[2199.99] Jack: It flew like a wobbly squirrel.
[2204.99] Cookbook Club: But at the time, to build something and fly it,
[2208.99] Cookbook Club: that was the impressive thing, right?
[2210.99] Jack: Yeah.
[2211.99] Jack: You know, and I remember the big achievement
[2214.99] Jack: was flying and finishing a battery
[2218.99] Jack: because most of the time you'd fly, crash
[2223.99] Jack: and then have to change a prop
[2226.99] Jack: and then that's if you're lucky
[2228.99] Jack: and then most of the time you'd fly, crash
[2231.99] Jack: and have to come over again to fix it.
[2234.99] Jack: Or like Tony, dig the bloody receiver out,
[2238.99] Jack: put a new antenna on it.
[2242.99] Tony: I think the bigger one will fly nicer.
[2245.99] Jack: Yeah.
[2246.99] Tony: Especially if you use David's inputs.
[2254.91] Jack: Well, that's the thing.
[2256.91] Jack: I called David up and said, you know, what's good?
[2259.91] Jack: And that's kind of why I went with a cuckoo toy
[2262.91] Jack: because you're able to...
[2266.91] Jack: You're able to put like de-roning on it,
[2269.91] Jack: which was the last sort of stuff that had the...
[2273.91] Jack: I know, Stephen, I fully...
[2275.91] Jack: Yeah, you're right.
[2276.91] Jack: Shake your head.
[2278.91] Jack: Because that had the whole...
[2279.91] Jack: That was like the last sort of development with tail tune.
[2283.91] Jack: But the problem is, I phoned David
[2285.91] Jack: and he was just saying the code so much better
[2288.91] Jack: through filtering and stuff.
[2290.91] Jack: And he's like, just put B-Fly on it
[2293.91] Jack: and it will fly good.
[2296.91] Cookbook Club: I haven't come across anyone fly a modern build on a tricopter.
[2301.91] Cookbook Club: It'd be fascinating to see how that works.
[2303.91] Cookbook Club: I think you might actually spark a lot of interest
[2306.91] Cookbook Club: if you say, I am putting like an F7 or something
[2310.91] Cookbook Club: or an F4 or something recent,
[2312.91] Cookbook Club: I'm going to run the latest code,
[2314.91] Cookbook Club: make my tricopter fly
[2316.91] Cookbook Club: and B-Fly will be like, really?
[2319.91] Cookbook Club: Oh, okay.
[2321.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2322.91] Jack: Let's do this.
[2323.91] Jack: But yeah, it's getting to that point.
[2326.91] Jack: That's the issue.
[2329.91] Jack: It's...
[2331.91] Jack: You know, because like I got that Kakuta from...
[2336.91] Jack: Liddy, Trevor,
[2340.91] Jack: Darnome,
[2342.91] Jack: and I don't even know if he's like still with us.
[2346.91] Jack: I should really email him.
[2347.91] Jack: Hopefully he's still with us.
[2349.91] Jack: The last time I checked it was,
[2351.91] Jack: I don't even know if he was flying because his health...
[2354.91] Tony: Yeah, I remember his health.
[2356.91] Jack: It was like not great.
[2359.91] Jack: Yeah, it is, you know, it would be good.
[2362.91] Jack: But yeah, I've got to get to a point
[2364.91] Jack: where I've moved in here, I've sorted everything out.
[2368.91] Jack: And yeah, and then I need to pick a board,
[2371.91] Jack: buy it, then solder it and then get everything running
[2375.91] Jack: because like it or not, it's never going to fly as good as a quad
[2379.91] Jack: because you're relying on a...
[2382.91] Jack: Yes, it's a digital servo, but there's a mechanical...
[2386.91] Jack: Sony, I'm responding so fast.
[2388.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2389.91] Jack: Thank you.
[2390.91] Cookbook Club: It starts to ring as well, doesn't it?
[2392.91] Cookbook Club: If you move it fast, you induce vibrations
[2394.91] Cookbook Club: and the rest of the flame frame,
[2395.91] Cookbook Club: the servo starts ringing the arm, right?
[2397.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2398.91] Jack: You know, and it's...
[2401.91] Jack: You know, it's little things like I think I've got one battery for it,
[2406.91] Jack: but like...
[2408.91] Jack: Is it running?
[2410.91] Jack: Like a 4S 3000.
[2413.91] Jack: I was going to say it's a 4S.
[2415.91] Jack: Oh, wow.
[2416.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2417.91] Jack: What are the motors on?
[2419.91] Cookbook Club: I thought it was only like 2207s or something.
[2421.91] Tony: I think they're swinging 7-inch, aren't they?
[2424.91] Jack: Yeah, they're 8, I think.
[2426.91] Jack: They're 8.
[2427.91] Jack: And yeah, they're meant to be a 2208 motor,
[2432.91] Jack: but I reduce...
[2434.91] Cookbook Club: That's a lot of battery for 3208s, mate.
[2437.91] Cookbook Club: Like, I'm running 2209s on my 7-inch
[2440.91] Cookbook Club: and I fly that thing on like...
[2443.91] Jack: Yeah, they're 2208 1500 kV.
[2449.91] Cookbook Club: You should be fine with like really quite small...
[2453.91] Cookbook Club: 1500 kV on a 7-inch prop, that doesn't...
[2456.91] Cookbook Club: That's a 3G.
[2458.91] Cookbook Club: And you're running probably 3S, right?
[2460.91] Cookbook Club: You're not 6S on that.
[2462.91] Jack: Yeah, I think it's meant to be 3,
[2464.91] Jack: but we kind of pushed it at 4
[2466.91] Jack: because it was the...
[2468.91] Jack: That's the thing, like you're...
[2470.91] Cookbook Club: You could probably get away with a quad battery,
[2472.91] Cookbook Club: like a kind of 1A, 1.5A, 3-4S on that.
[2476.91] Tony: You need the white in the front of that, though.
[2478.91] Tony: A bit more.
[2480.91] Jack: Well, it's meant to have an old-school GoPro
[2482.91] Jack: at the front of it.
[2483.91] Jack: As well, yeah.
[2485.91] Jack: You might just need to find the house brick.
[2487.91] Jack: He's long, yeah.
[2489.91] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2490.91] Jack: So, yeah, the battery, like,
[2493.91] Jack: it's slung back and it's meant to have a GoPro.
[2496.91] Jack: When that was made, it was GoPro Hero 4.
[2499.91] Jack: We're on...
[2501.91] Jack: 11?
[2502.91] Jack: 12?
[2503.91] Cookbook Club: 11?
[2504.91] Cookbook Club: Is it 12 now, I think?
[2505.91] Cookbook Club: I think it's 12.
[2506.91] Cookbook Club: I think it's 12.
[2507.91] Jack: That's what I mean.
[2508.91] Jack: And now GoPro's away in absolute metric.
[2511.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2514.91] Jack: So, you know...
[2516.91] Tony: It'd be interesting to see it fly.
[2518.91] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2520.91] Cookbook Club: If you put a modern code path on it,
[2523.91] Cookbook Club: I think the fact that it's imbalanced
[2525.91] Cookbook Club: is going to be much less of a problem
[2527.91] Cookbook Club: because you're relying a lot less on motor mixing
[2530.91] Cookbook Club: and a lot more on you've got a gyro.
[2533.91] Cookbook Club: It'll figure it out.
[2535.91] Tony: How fast is the servo?
[2536.91] Tony: Is it a fast servo in today's comparison to today,
[2540.91] Tony: do you think?
[2541.91] Tony: I don't know.
[2542.91] Jack: Have a look on...
[2544.91] Jack: Is it like a performance heli servo?
[2547.91] Jack: It's a bluebird servo, I don't know.
[2550.91] Jack: It's got cable ties all over it.
[2553.91] Jack: I can't really...
[2555.91] Jack: Well, you know, give it a whirl.
[2557.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2558.91] Jack: It's what David recommended at the time.
[2562.91] Cookbook Club: Did David recommend like a config
[2564.91] Cookbook Club: with a recent beta flight?
[2566.91] Cookbook Club: Is there just a standard tricop to build out
[2568.91] Cookbook Club: or are there tweaks that need to be done
[2570.91] Cookbook Club: beyond the mixer for tricopters?
[2572.91] Cookbook Club: Well, there isn't.
[2573.91] Jack: You know, you're talking this all stopped years ago.
[2579.91] Jack: That's the thing.
[2580.91] Jack: Like, you're talking...
[2581.91] Tony: I'm still saying no one really finds him anymore, do they?
[2584.91] Tony: Yeah.
[2585.91] Jack: Like...
[2587.91] Jack: Which is a shame.
[2588.91] Jack: Let's go on his website.
[2591.91] Jack: Let's just say he stopped before Brexit.
[2597.91] Tony: I know it was a while ago.
[2599.91] Cookbook Club: It hasn't been tying rockets to knives for a while either.
[2602.91] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2603.91] Cookbook Club: The world's just going...
[2604.91] Cookbook Club: Really?
[2605.91] Cookbook Club: Well, get down to brass tacks.
[2607.91] Cookbook Club: Like, where's the rocket knife?
[2610.91] Tony: What happened?
[2611.91] Tony: Yeah.
[2612.91] Cookbook Club: I mean, here's...
[2613.91] Tony: You had a baby, I think.
[2614.91] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2615.91] Cookbook Club: I guess you probably don't want babies
[2616.91] Cookbook Club: around rocket knives.
[2617.91] Cookbook Club: It's probably...
[2618.91] Cookbook Club: It's probably some recommendation
[2620.91] Cookbook Club: when you talk to the advisor who's like,
[2623.91] Cookbook Club: have you prepared the house for the baby?
[2624.91] Cookbook Club: You're like, yes, yes.
[2625.91] Cookbook Club: There's the house and there's the car
[2628.91] Cookbook Club: and there's the rocket knife.
[2630.91] Tony: It's the rocket knife sled.
[2633.91] Jack: The rocket knife stuff got all cut up for scrap.
[2637.91] Jack: It doesn't exist.
[2639.91] Jack: He released the design files December 2019.
[2645.91] Jack: So that's just before COVID.
[2648.91] Jack: Yeah.
[2649.91] Jack: And the files aren't being hosted anymore.
[2652.91] Jack: So nothing comes up.
[2654.91] Jack: You get...
[2655.91] Jack: You've got the frame.
[2656.91] Jack: You've got the PCB files.
[2659.91] Jack: Like, the tray.
[2663.91] Jack: So they're not even.
[2665.91] Jack: The last sales were November 2019.
[2670.91] Jack: October 2019.
[2673.91] Jack: Brexit.
[2675.91] Jack: There was nothing.
[2676.91] Jack: Is it?
[2677.91] Jack: The clearance sale was 11th of September 2019.
[2681.91] Jack: No.
[2682.91] Jack: And he's gradually...
[2683.91] Jack: And that's the thing as well is like,
[2685.91] Jack: I could build this,
[2687.91] Jack: sink a load of money into it,
[2689.91] Jack: like with a new...
[2693.91] Jack: Like, you know, none of the pictures load.
[2697.51] Jack: I could sink a load of money into it,
[2699.51] Jack: like buy all new motors,
[2701.51] Jack: buy all new ESCs or whatever.
[2706.51] Jack: And at the end of it,
[2710.51] Jack: as soon as I snap an arm,
[2712.51] Jack: that's it.
[2713.51] Jack: I haven't got another arm.
[2717.51] Cookbook Club: That kind of sucks.
[2719.51] Cookbook Club: Could you get replacements of any of the large quads
[2722.51] Cookbook Club: and maybe just retro find something that's similar?
[2726.51] Cookbook Club: There is nothing.
[2727.51] Tony: It could probably find carbon arms like that.
[2730.51] Tony: Yeah.
[2731.51] Jack: No.
[2732.51] Jack: Why?
[2733.51] Jack: Because they're completely square.
[2735.51] Jack: They're not around too.
[2737.51] Jack: He had them custom made.
[2741.51] Cookbook Club: So it's not just a long carbon member then?
[2744.51] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2745.51] Cookbook Club: It's a tube.
[2746.51] Cookbook Club: It's a square.
[2749.51] Cookbook Club: I bet he just used something off the shelf to drill them.
[2752.51] Jack: No.
[2753.51] Jack: They're custom made.
[2755.51] Jack: Really?
[2756.51] Cookbook Club: That would be such a weird thing to do,
[2758.51] Cookbook Club: to get your own carbon molding and everything.
[2760.51] Cookbook Club: That would make it stupid expensive.
[2761.51] Cookbook Club: Why would he?
[2763.51] Cookbook Club: Because you can get like carbon spars that are...
[2765.51] Cookbook Club: You can get tubes.
[2766.51] Cookbook Club: You can get like square ducts.
[2770.51] Cookbook Club: With specific diameters.
[2772.51] Tony: Cubes now?
[2773.51] Tony: Yeah.
[2774.51] Tony: You can have a box cut with cube...
[2776.51] Tony: Well, it wasn't carbon fiber.
[2778.51] Jack: Well, that was the...
[2781.51] Jack: How long are the arms then?
[2784.94] Cookbook Club: Are they really massive arms?
[2786.94] Cookbook Club: You said it has seven inches wide.
[2787.94] Jack: No, they're 10 by 10 and they're quite long.
[2791.94] Stephen: That's what I'm saying, isn't it?
[2793.94] Tony: Yeah.
[2795.94] Tony: They're one centimeter square.
[2797.94] Tony: Maybe you shouldn't ever fly it.
[2799.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah, just put it on the wall.
[2801.94] Cookbook Club: Put it on the wall, mate.
[2803.94] Cookbook Club: That's a piece of history.
[2805.94] Cookbook Club: Like a blair or whatever.
[2807.94] Jack: Yeah, they're 10 by 10.
[2809.94] Jack: Because I remember him...
[2812.94] Jack: I remember him...
[2814.94] Jack: Look, none of the pictures load or anything.
[2818.94] Cookbook Club: Have you thought that maybe now you are the museum for this
[2823.94] Cookbook Club: and your role is to basically photograph and document it
[2827.94] Cookbook Club: and get it on archive.org or something?
[2830.94] Cookbook Club: This is what we call a tripod.
[2832.94] Cookbook Club: And here's my GoPro footage from 2013 of me flying this
[2837.94] Cookbook Club: and barely missing my own head and stuff like that.
[2841.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2842.94] Tony: It's lovely looking.
[2843.94] Tony: I like it.
[2844.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2845.94] Jack: They were square off.
[2847.94] Tony: And they used to fold down.
[2848.94] Tony: Yeah.
[2849.94] Jack: He had a nightmare trying to...
[2852.94] Jack: Because they're hollow in the center.
[2855.94] Cookbook Club: There you are.
[2856.94] Cookbook Club: That's a good picture.
[2858.94] Cookbook Club: I bet those are regular bits of carbon.
[2861.94] Jack: They're not.
[2862.94] Jack: He had to get bladders made and a special mold.
[2867.94] Jack: I know because, you know, I'm friends with him.
[2870.94] Jack: I could phone him up and ask him.
[2872.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2873.94] Cookbook Club: But if it's 10 by 10, you could probably just get some solid.
[2876.94] Jack: You'd think someone would have made it.
[2882.94] Cookbook Club: You'd probably just swap in some alley parts and call it good.
[2886.94] Cookbook Club: Oh, there's the little one that you had.
[2888.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2889.94] Jack: There's no reason, you know.
[2891.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2892.94] Jack: The carbon fiber looks nice.
[2893.94] Jack: It would just mean...
[2895.94] Jack: And also, you could go up a size.
[2898.94] Jack: You just drill the holes in the right place.
[2901.94] Jack: And, you know, you could use 15 by 15 square aluminium tube,
[2909.94] Jack: you know, but they're the...
[2911.94] Jack: It wouldn't be an additional animal.
[2913.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2914.94] Tony: You need to stick it on the wall, Jack.
[2916.94] Tony: Is there any videos of him flying in some nice places?
[2920.94] Tony: I can't remember.
[2921.94] Jack: Yeah.
[2922.94] Jack: There is.
[2923.94] Tony: Like, there's, you know...
[2928.94] Tony: Cliff diving.
[2931.94] Tony: So even with an old GoPro, that looks pretty steady.
[2936.94] Jack: You can see just a faint little...
[2940.94] Tony: There is a tiny one.
[2941.94] Jack: That's what he's had.
[2944.94] Cookbook Club: Dude.
[2946.94] Cookbook Club: It looks nice for back then, though.
[2949.94] Cookbook Club: What did you find?
[2952.94] Cookbook Club: How many pieces do you want?
[2955.94] Cookbook Club: Three.
[2957.94] Cookbook Club: Eight quid each.
[2959.94] Cookbook Club: Or if you buy three of them...
[2961.94] Cookbook Club: £8.42 if you buy three.
[2963.94] Cookbook Club: I just found them on eBay.
[2965.94] Cookbook Club: Let me just zoom this in.
[2967.94] Cookbook Club: I'm guessing someone bought a load of them before...
[2970.94] Cookbook Club: No, mate, it looks like a common bit.
[2973.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[2974.94] Cookbook Club: So I just started poking around.
[2976.94] Cookbook Club: Hollow tube, RC model.
[2978.94] Cookbook Club: There you are.
[2979.94] Jack: Oh, no.
[2980.94] Jack: They're...
[2981.94] Jack: Right.
[2982.94] Jack: So they're extruded.
[2985.94] Jack: They're not woven.
[2987.94] Jack: Mate, it's a tube.
[2988.94] Jack: What do you want?
[2989.94] Jack: No, no.
[2990.94] Jack: You drill a hole, they split.
[2993.94] Cookbook Club: Drill a hole very carefully.
[2995.94] Jack: No, they...
[2996.94] Jack: Drill a hole.
[2998.94] Cookbook Club: Come on.
[2999.94] Cookbook Club: You can make it work.
[3001.94] Cookbook Club: No.
[3002.94] Cookbook Club: No.
[3003.94] Jack: They...
[3004.94] Jack: Trust me.
[3005.94] Tony: You'd have to if you smashed it into the ground.
[3007.94] Tony: You would be saying...
[3008.94] Tony: Zip tie something on there.
[3010.94] Tony: Thanks, Steven, for finding that.
[3012.94] Tony: Yeah.
[3014.94] Jack: No, they...
[3015.94] Tony: Are you going to do...
[3016.94] Tony: Are you going to fly or are you going to museum it?
[3018.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3019.94] Jack: I don't know.
[3020.94] Jack: I don't know what to do.
[3021.94] Jack: I don't even know.
[3022.94] Jack: Get a desk first.
[3024.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3025.94] Jack: But like I said, you could just use Ali as well.
[3027.94] Cookbook Club: That's like trivial.
[3029.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3030.94] Cookbook Club: Just Ali in box section.
[3031.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3032.94] Jack: Yeah, those extruded 10 mil cheap things.
[3037.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3038.94] Jack: They were made in hobby king.
[3040.94] Jack: They were like four quid.
[3042.94] Jack: But yeah, they basically...
[3044.94] Jack: They just split.
[3045.94] Cookbook Club: Oh, wait.
[3046.94] Cookbook Club: I found the woven ones.
[3048.94] Cookbook Club: Come on.
[3049.94] Jack: You need to give me a bit more time, mate.
[3051.94] Jack: Give me a bit of time.
[3053.94] Jack: You're live on a podcast?
[3055.94] Cookbook Club: He's been.
[3056.94] Cookbook Club: How's it going?
[3057.94] Cookbook Club: All right.
[3058.94] Cookbook Club: These are on Amazon.
[3059.94] Cookbook Club: Here we are.
[3060.94] Cookbook Club: One color.
[3061.94] Cookbook Club: 33 quid.
[3062.94] Cookbook Club: Or how long is it?
[3063.94] Cookbook Club: 33 quid for half a meter.
[3064.94] Cookbook Club: 33 quid for half a meter.
[3065.94] Cookbook Club: I don't have any arms you get out of half a meter.
[3066.94] Cookbook Club: That was on Amazon.
[3067.94] Cookbook Club: That is literally the first hit that I found.
[3068.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3069.94] Cookbook Club: You get...
[3070.94] Cookbook Club: I think you'll get two out of it.
[3071.94] Cookbook Club: Or one.
[3072.94] Cookbook Club: All right.
[3073.94] Cookbook Club: Because they're like...
[3074.94] Cookbook Club: They're 25 or 30.
[3075.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3076.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3077.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3078.94] Jack: I think you'll get two out of it.
[3079.94] Jack: Or one.
[3080.94] Jack: All right.
[3081.94] Jack: Because they're like...
[3083.94] Jack: They're 25 or 30 whatever long.
[3087.94] Cookbook Club: All right.
[3088.94] Cookbook Club: Let's go to AliExpress.
[3090.94] Cookbook Club: Strike a deal.
[3092.94] Cookbook Club: It's a deal.
[3093.94] Cookbook Club: It's a steal.
[3094.94] Tony: I used to be getting carbon, not Ali.
[3097.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3098.94] Cookbook Club: So those are not woven.
[3100.94] Cookbook Club: But yeah.
[3101.94] Cookbook Club: I mean, they exist is the point, right?
[3103.94] Cookbook Club: If you want woven tubes.
[3105.94] Cookbook Club: So let me just put this up again.
[3109.94] Jack: I mean, that's quite a lot of money for an hour.
[3112.94] Cookbook Club: But mate, it is nonetheless.
[3115.94] Cookbook Club: But that's half a meter as well.
[3116.94] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3117.94] Cookbook Club: It's not an arm.
[3118.94] Cookbook Club: I don't know how long the arms are.
[3120.94] Cookbook Club: But that's half a meter of tubes.
[3122.94] Jack: Do you want me to measure them?
[3124.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3125.94] Jack: They might not be.
[3126.94] Jack: They might not be.
[3127.94] Cookbook Club: And that is the first price that I found, to be fair.
[3130.94] Cookbook Club: So that is...
[3132.94] Cookbook Club: It's got 6% off.
[3134.94] Cookbook Club: It's going to be no more expensive than that.
[3136.94] Cookbook Club: Put it that way.
[3138.94] Cookbook Club: 30 quid for...
[3141.94] Cookbook Club: You're about to get at least two arms out of half a meter, aren't you?
[3145.94] Cookbook Club: No.
[3146.94] Jack: Really?
[3147.94] Jack: They're not quite long.
[3152.38] Cookbook Club: Anyway, it's not...
[3154.38] Cookbook Club: Not the end of the world.
[3155.38] Cookbook Club: It's not the end of the world because you can get woven.
[3158.38] Cookbook Club: I look quite awesome.
[3161.78] Cookbook Club: You can see the layup on the inside and everything.
[3165.78] Jack: Right.
[3166.78] Jack: So the arms are tuned in to let drone out.
[3171.78] Jack: It measures things and steep ups and outs.
[3173.78] Tony: I'm talking about bear tonight, mate.
[3177.78] Tony: Stouts and bear.
[3181.95] Jack: Ooh.
[3182.95] Jack: They're 30...
[3184.95] Jack: Yeah, they're 32 centimeters.
[3188.95] Jack: Swine hunt.
[3189.95] Cookbook Club: Just to make life difficult so you need one for each arm.
[3194.42] Cookbook Club: My word.
[3195.42] Cookbook Club: It's not making your life easy, isn't it?
[3197.42] Cookbook Club: It's not making your life easy.
[3199.42] Tony: You can make it a bit smaller.
[3202.42] Jack: Yeah.
[3203.42] Jack: So I have 90...
[3204.42] Jack: That's £100, basically, for...
[3207.42] Jack: Make it smaller.
[3208.42] Jack: Johnny Banton.
[3209.42] Jack: They're like...
[3210.42] Jack: He bloody knows.
[3211.42] Jack: He bloody knows.
[3212.42] Jack: He blew up.
[3213.42] Jack: He destroyed doctors.
[3214.42] Jack: Johnny Banton shows up.
[3215.42] Jack: Do you know what I mean?
[3216.42] Jack: That's like 90 quid.
[3217.42] Jack: Like, that's £100 for a set of arms.
[3221.42] Jack: That's horrendous.
[3223.42] Cookbook Club: Well, that's why no one ever crashed them.
[3226.42] Tony: They're hard to...
[3227.42] Tony: Well, I wouldn't say they're hard to crash, but...
[3231.74] Cookbook Club: Well, hard to get off the ground, you mean?
[3235.74] Tony: Sorry, I reckon James should do it.
[3238.74] Tony: Do it or stick it on the wall.
[3240.74] Jack: I mean, I think I'm going to need funding at this rate.
[3243.74] Jack: I think Steven needs to...
[3245.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3246.74] Jack: I think Steven might have to provide another flight controller.
[3250.74] Cookbook Club: No worries.
[3252.74] Cookbook Club: Excuse me.
[3253.74] Jack: And we'll have to, you know, put in an order
[3259.74] Jack: with Armatan to get a bottom plate,
[3264.74] Jack: cut the plates made up in carbon fibre.
[3268.74] Jack: And then that way, if it does crash,
[3270.74] Jack: it has half a chance of surviving.
[3272.74] Jack: Oh, oh, oh.
[3273.74] Cookbook Club: Here we are.
[3275.74] Cookbook Club: I found a link for...
[3278.74] Cookbook Club: That's not even...
[3280.74] Cookbook Club: It thinks I'm in Israel.
[3282.74] Cookbook Club: That's impressive.
[3284.74] Cookbook Club: Good job.
[3285.74] Cookbook Club: I'll express where...
[3287.74] Cookbook Club: Don't so much worry about privacy,
[3289.74] Cookbook Club: it's just massive amounts of confusion.
[3291.74] Cookbook Club: It's 26 Israeli and some things.
[3294.74] Cookbook Club: Oh, here we are.
[3295.74] Cookbook Club: £5.82.
[3297.74] Cookbook Club: Giddy.
[3298.74] Cookbook Club: £5.82, 10x10 with an interior diameter of 8mm,
[3305.74] Cookbook Club: which is pretty good.
[3307.74] Cookbook Club: And that is a 500mm carbon fibre square tube.
[3314.74] Tony: Okay, hang on.
[3316.74] Tony: What's that, 15 quid instead?
[3318.74] Cookbook Club: Me and Google were like that, I swear.
[3323.74] Jack: The other thing is, I do have a spare servo.
[3327.74] Jack: I do have spare servo part.
[3330.74] Tony: Oh, well, you've got to fly it then.
[3332.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3333.74] Tony: And then stick it in the museum.
[3335.74] Cookbook Club: £5.82.
[3337.74] Cookbook Club: That's not too bad for an arm.
[3339.74] Cookbook Club: Dang it.
[3340.74] Cookbook Club: £3 shipping from China.
[3344.74] Cookbook Club: Jobs are good.
[3346.74] Jack: 10x10x8mm.
[3348.74] Jack: Still get from China to here.
[3350.74] Tony: Length 500mm.
[3351.74] Cookbook Club: That's the outside diameter, inside diameter.
[3355.74] Cookbook Club: Probably not.
[3356.74] Cookbook Club: It just seems a bit strange.
[3358.74] Cookbook Club: Yeah.
[3360.74] Cookbook Club: And look, someone is actually using it
[3363.74] Cookbook Club: for potentially a dry doctor.
[3366.74] Cookbook Club: A drono.
[3367.74] Cookbook Club: A drono indeed.
[3368.74] Cookbook Club: Drono mate.
[3370.74] Cookbook Club: I'm the drono you've got there.
[3374.74] Tony: Well, you've got to do it then.
[3376.74] Tony: You've got to fly it once.
[3378.74] Tony: Yeah.
[3379.74] Tony: Video it.
[3380.74] Tony: Do some video and then hang it on the wall.
[3383.74] Jack: I'm going to have to go off here, mate.
[3386.74] Tony: Yeah, no.
[3387.74] Tony: I'll phone mine after four hours of looking in the woods.
[3392.74] Tony: Yeah.
[3393.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3394.74] Jack: What is the outcome of your transmitter?
[3402.74] Jack: Have you got another one?
[3404.74] Jack: Someone sending you one?
[3406.74] Tony: Someone can send me one.
[3408.74] Tony: I forgot to test it.
[3411.74] Tony: But the guy who's one of our listeners said he'd send me his.
[3419.74] Tony: So what I really need to do this weekend,
[3422.74] Tony: because I completely forgot about it, is test mine again.
[3425.74] Tony: So I'm going to get mine out and test it.
[3427.74] Tony: Just turn it on and leave it on.
[3429.74] Tony: See what happens.
[3431.74] Jack: You really need to be hovering something or flying something.
[3436.74] Tony: It's just got to drain the battery.
[3438.74] Tony: You've just got to see if the battery drains fast or not.
[3440.74] Tony: Well, yeah.
[3441.74] Cookbook Club: I mean, you're a car or something, aren't you?
[3443.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3444.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3445.74] Jack: It's all about the dynamic power and putting it under load for...
[3451.74] Tony: Well, we're going to have the crossfire on.
[3453.74] Tony: Crossfire.
[3454.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3455.74] Jack: But if it's on dynamic, it will just sit there at minimum output.
[3460.74] Tony: I could get a fan, you know, a fan with a bit of string,
[3463.74] Tony: turn that on and then when the fan does that, it can pull the sticks.
[3467.74] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[3468.74] Jack: Well, it's got to...
[3471.74] Tony: I've got to test it, yeah.
[3473.74] Tony: Yeah.
[3474.74] Tony: Because he was nice enough to volunteer.
[3477.74] Tony: What you want to do is point yourself...
[3480.74] Jack: Point yourself a square field and just fly along the edge of it in a square pattern.
[3487.74] Jack: And then when it goes down, you just walk that square pattern.
[3492.74] Tony: Yeah, well, I think I've put a low voltage alarm on now
[3498.74] Tony: because I think maybe when you updated it, it resettled that
[3503.74] Tony: and I didn't get one off.
[3504.74] Jack: Yeah, it doesn't know what kind of battery is in there.
[3507.74] Tony: Yeah, so I'll put one of them on there.
[3509.74] Tony: So I'm sure I'll hear it before it just turns off this time.
[3513.74] Tony: Yeah.
[3514.74] Tony: But yeah, I will definitely need to test it.
[3518.74] Tony: I should have done that.
[3519.74] Tony: I completely forgot.
[3520.74] Tony: Bless that, don't I?
[3523.74] Tony: I will actually message him later.
[3526.74] Tony: That was one of our lads who we've met before.
[3531.74] Tony: We've flown with him as well.
[3533.74] Tony: At many of our drone festivals we used to go to.
[3538.74] Tony: God, I'm actually going to one of them.
[3540.74] Tony: I think it was six years ago today.
[3543.74] Jack: Well, we're meant to be going to the Western Park,
[3549.74] Jack: but you need to message about the dog.
[3552.74] Jack: Because sooner or later, it's going to be May
[3555.74] Jack: and then June's going to be...
[3558.74] Jack: It is May.
[3559.74] Jack: I'm honest.
[3560.74] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[3561.74] Jack: Well, yeah, the end of May, yeah.
[3563.74] Jack: And then June.
[3564.74] Jack: When is it?
[3565.74] Jack: June the what?
[3566.74] Jack: I don't know.
[3567.74] Jack: June something.
[3568.74] Jack: I don't know.
[3569.74] Jack: I just look at Frank.
[3572.74] Tony: I see him.
[3573.74] Cookbook Club: He's got sweating.
[3575.74] Tony: June, okay.
[3577.74] Tony: I need to...
[3579.74] Tony: Yeah, we'll have a look.
[3583.46] Jack: Sort that out.
[3584.46] Tony: Yes.
[3585.46] Jack: Get it figured out.
[3586.46] Tony: I'd like to go to there again.
[3591.46] Tony: It's quite far away, far away, isn't it?
[3594.46] Tony: When did we go last time?
[3595.46] Tony: Was it eight years ago?
[3597.46] Jack: I don't know, yeah.
[3598.46] Tony: I think it was six years ago today that we were at...
[3602.46] Tony: Where were we?
[3603.46] Tony: My faceballs told me earlier.
[3606.46] Jack: Don't forget, it's Kerry Kitten's birthday tomorrow.
[3610.46] Tony: Oh, happy birthday.
[3612.46] Jack: Happy birthday, Kerry.
[3614.46] Jack: That's by dementia.
[3616.46] Jack: I know.
[3617.46] Jack: I literally can't remember.
[3620.46] Jack: I think the last time we were there...
[3622.46] Stephen: When did they last let us go out?
[3625.46] Stephen: I don't know.
[3626.46] Stephen: When did they...
[3627.46] Stephen: That was six years ago today.
[3629.46] Stephen: It was a year, I remember.
[3631.46] Jack: He jests, but that's what it feels like.
[3635.46] Jack: I'm sure many...
[3637.46] Stephen: I think I wore shoes.
[3639.46] Stephen: Well, did we?
[3641.46] Jack: I know, yeah.
[3643.46] Tony: What was I doing six years ago with a drone?
[3647.46] Tony: Oh, that was for a news...
[3649.46] Tony: That was for a magazine, that shot.
[3653.46] Tony: That was version one of the...
[3658.46] Tony: Of the X-Class, because look, it's got no tri-blades.
[3661.46] Tony: It's got balance in tape on the...
[3665.46] Tony: On the props.
[3667.46] Jack: Oh, my God.
[3669.46] Tony: Yeah.
[3670.46] Tony: The good old days, Jack.
[3672.46] Tony: They used to balance props.
[3675.46] Jack: With, yeah, laser beams and tape.
[3678.46] Jack: Stephen, you weren't there, man.
[3683.35] Jack: I mean, you weren't there, was it?
[3685.35] Cookbook Club: And nothing about this is making me wish I was.
[3689.35] Jack: I know.
[3690.35] Jack: Flying, bloody...
[3692.35] Cookbook Club: Caught me out on a siree.
[3695.35] Tony: Six years ago, the Mini Air Show, one of them was.
[3698.35] Cookbook Club: If I wanted the camera view to look like that, I'd get another beer, guys.
[3706.35] Jack: Yeah.
[3707.35] Jack: Stop talking about these.
[3708.35] Jack: Do you want to see us out?
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[3717.35] Cookbook Club: and ensure that the editor can put up with a prodigious amount of waffle
[3721.35] Cookbook Club: that he has to fill through every week.
[3723.35] Cookbook Club: Thank you, oh so very, very much.
[3727.35] Cookbook Club: Thank you.
[3728.35] Stephen: Bye.
[3729.35] Stephen: Bye.
[3730.35] Stephen: Bye.
[3731.35] UNKNOWN: Telemetry lost.