=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 457 ===
Title: LDO 457 - You Wish It Was Bravo Team
Recorded: 2024-05-30
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Chris "Mothereffin" G
Total audience: 840
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XI1NhFHXnw); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1834780674-letsdroneout-ldo-457-you-wish-it-was-bravo-team.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons
[6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] Jack: we say.
[13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos!
[16.0] Jack: Art Faulkner.
[17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Frank: On with the show.
[20.68] (VT): Let's drone out now.
[52.73] Jack: And welcome back.
[53.73] Jack: You're listening to another episode of Let's Drone Out.
[57.65] Jack: Tonight we are joined by my darling wife, Tony.
[62.09] Jack: All joined off.
[64.21] Jack: And I am your host, Brian Twerfly.
[67.17] Jack: Wow.
[68.17] Jack: Let's start the show.
[70.37] Jack: Who are us, Jack?
[72.25] Jack: I know.
[73.25] Jack: Like The Dark Days, do you remember?
[76.21] Tony: Yeah, I remember The Dark Days as well.
[80.01] Jack: Where it would just show up and it would just be us two.
[86.25] Jack: Oh, how Chippy probably wishes he still had this IP.
[94.37] Jack: What true value.
[95.37] Jack: I mean, all those people who are like, you could sell LDO.
[99.97] Jack: It's like, for what?
[102.97] Jack: I don't, no one wants to do it.
[105.61] Jack: No one wants to be here.
[107.29] Jack: Everyone's like busy doing other stuff.
[110.89] Jack: He's at EMF.
[114.89] Jack: Steven has had a s*** day at work.
[118.73] Jack: Curry quit a while ago because he missed me and Frank doing it.
[127.57] Jack: Andy RC, I think he just caused a lot of anxiety.
[132.41] Tony: Well, did we just quit then?
[135.97] Jack: Well, Frank wants us to get to episode 522 or 21, I think.
[144.01] Jack: That means 10 years.
[148.01] Tony: 10 years and we can quit.
[150.01] Jack: Yeah.
[151.01] Jack: Yeah.
[152.01] Jack: And we're at 457, so we've got like another, well, about two years.
[163.05] Tony: Oh, my God, how could we talk crap for two years?
[168.05] Tony: I know.
[169.05] Tony: Every Thursday.
[170.05] Tony: Oh, my God.
[171.05] Tony: How many times is that talking rubbish?
[173.05] Jack: I don't know.
[175.05] Jack: There's just nothing to talk about anymore.
[177.05] Jack: I could.
[178.05] Jack: There's no problem.
[179.05] Jack: Let's do some real life grammar repair live.
[183.05] Jack: Okay.
[184.05] Jack: Do you remember this?
[186.05] Jack: First of all, you find around a bit metal.
[189.09] Jack: Then you pull out the tool chest with all the screws in.
[196.09] Jack: And then you find a screw, you light the look off.
[202.09] Jack: I'll go for this one and grab a screwdriver or a hex driver.
[211.09] Tony: Tony, you need to get signed up for the race.
[213.09] Tony: Oh, I've done a f***ing come.
[215.09] Tony: When is it?
[217.09] Jack: Not this weekend.
[218.13] Jack: We're supposed to be talking to Chris G about it.
[224.13] UNKNOWN: There you go.
[225.13] Tony: We just screwed that in.
[227.13] Tony: Well done, Jack.
[230.13] Tony: I haven't tested anything.
[232.13] Tony: So I've got no way of testing it.
[235.13] Tony: I don't fly it in my field anymore.
[238.13] Tony: And I haven't read next weekend.
[242.13] Tony: Do I have to sign up or can I just turn up and just say hi.
[246.17] Tony: And I've brought some stuff in a tent.
[249.17] Tony: I might be out of fly.
[251.17] Tony: If not, I'll just go home.
[253.17] Jack: Yeah, I'd just do that if I was you.
[255.17] Jack: Yeah, I think I might do that.
[258.17] Tony: Because nothing, you know, I know everyone's really helpful.
[262.17] Tony: But that might not just...
[265.17] Jack: I'd just show up, Tony.
[268.17] Jack: If I was you.
[270.17] Jack: You've got your registration and everything.
[273.17] Jack: What more do I want?
[275.21] Tony: I'm just not organised for anything drone stuff anymore at all.
[280.21] Jack: What happened?
[286.24] Jack: I don't know.
[288.24] Tony: I'm not bored of it.
[290.24] Tony: But I'm not as enthusiastic as I once was.
[295.24] Jack: I was chatting to Chris G about it.
[301.28] Jack: And from my thing, it was the lack of spontaneity of it.
[312.28] Jack: Where, you know, I got sold this whole thing of like, you know,
[319.28] Jack: you can fly drones and you chase aeroplanes around.
[323.28] Jack: And it was like the flight test and you meet people
[326.28] Jack: and everyone's here reading off the same page.
[330.32] Jack: And just want to have fun and do cool stuff.
[334.32] Jack: And...
[336.32] Jack: Well, it was like that.
[338.32] Tony: But about eight years ago.
[340.32] Tony: Yeah.
[341.32] Jack: Hey, Chris G.
[342.32] Jack: Hello.
[343.32] Jack: How are you doing?
[344.32] Jack: How you doing?
[345.32] ChrisG: Sorry I'm a bit late.
[346.32] Jack: Sorry.
[347.32] Jack: I did call you.
[349.32] ChrisG: Yeah, I saw.
[350.32] ChrisG: Yeah, Facebook took a dump.
[352.32] ChrisG: And I had to type the link in manually.
[354.32] ChrisG: But got there in the end.
[356.32] Jack: Oh.
[357.32] ChrisG: How's it going anyway?
[359.36] Jack: Yeah, not too bad.
[361.36] Jack: Like, I'm glad you're here.
[363.36] Jack: Thank God.
[364.36] Jack: And can't wait to see that you've got your tricopter behind you.
[373.12] Jack: Oh, yes.
[374.12] ChrisG: Here we go.
[375.12] Jack: Yeah.
[377.12] Jack: Another one.
[379.12] ChrisG: This one's a...
[380.12] ChrisG: Can you see that?
[381.12] Jack: Teacopter.
[382.12] ChrisG: Hmm.
[383.12] ChrisG: Yeah.
[384.12] ChrisG: All of my ones are teacopters.
[385.12] ChrisG: They're just easier to build that way.
[387.12] ChrisG: But this one's a little bit different
[389.16] ChrisG: because it's got these flappy things.
[392.16] ChrisG: Oh, do they work?
[394.16] ChrisG: They do, yeah.
[395.16] ChrisG: There's a servo on each one on all of the arms.
[398.16] ChrisG: So motors are all fixed.
[400.16] ChrisG: But you just do thrust vectoring by the flaps.
[403.16] Tony: Oh, nice.
[404.16] ChrisG: They don't do anything fancy.
[405.16] ChrisG: They just do your...
[407.16] ChrisG: Maybe in the future I could make it do some kind of lifting body type thing.
[412.16] ChrisG: But really it was just to see if I could put some cheapo servos on here
[417.2] ChrisG: rather than having to have the really good ones you normally need on a tricopter
[420.2] ChrisG: because you have to tilt the whole motor and have all the gyroscopic force going through it.
[424.2] ChrisG: But, yeah, these are just like ten-a-penny type servos.
[429.2] ChrisG: And the idea...
[432.2] ChrisG: Are they tower?
[433.2] ChrisG: Sorry?
[434.2] Jack: Are they tower pros?
[436.2] ChrisG: No, I don't even know what they are.
[437.2] ChrisG: They're not even branded.
[438.2] ChrisG: I just stole them out of an old plane that someone sold me.
[441.2] ChrisG: They're not very fast.
[443.24] Jack: I love how, at one point, when I first met Chris G,
[447.24] Jack: he didn't like XT60s
[451.24] Jack: and he had bullet connectors for his batteries.
[455.24] Jack: And now I can see no more than four on that single model.
[461.24] Jack: What's going on there, Chris?
[463.24] ChrisG: They're XT30s, you know?
[465.24] Jack: Is that to increase your current?
[468.24] ChrisG: It's two batteries, basically, redundant.
[471.28] ChrisG: So there's...
[474.28] ChrisG: Can you see?
[475.28] ChrisG: There's just two S.
[477.28] ChrisG: Hang on. Wait, wait, wait.
[479.28] ChrisG: There you go.
[480.28] ChrisG: Oh, yeah.
[481.28] ChrisG: So that's one battery on one side
[483.28] ChrisG: and you've got another one on the other side.
[485.28] ChrisG: So they're not connected together until you plug them in.
[488.28] ChrisG: So that's just for redundancy.
[491.69] Jack: I know.
[492.69] Jack: Chris G's become quite the battery dealer.
[495.69] Jack: Oh, here we go.
[497.73] Jack: The dealer of batteries
[501.73] Jack: or dealing with batteries, shall we say.
[504.73] Jack: In an interesting and fun way.
[506.73] Jack: Yeah.
[508.73] ChrisG: I might be getting some more soon.
[510.73] ChrisG: We'll see.
[511.73] Jack: Yeah, it's good, man.
[513.73] Jack: See, this is what I miss.
[516.73] Jack: Like Chris G showing up, he's not only built something,
[521.73] Jack: he's built something that I've never seen before.
[525.77] Jack: Do you remember this, Tony?
[527.77] Jack: It was new and exciting
[529.77] Jack: and you're trying to look forward to it
[531.77] Jack: not working and cutting your dick off.
[535.77] Tony: And, Christian,
[537.77] Tony: you gave them all a chance by not turning up in Wales
[540.77] Tony: last weekend or the weekend before.
[542.77] ChrisG: Yeah. How did that go?
[544.77] ChrisG: It seemed like a good event from what I see.
[546.77] Tony: It looked like a good event.
[548.77] Tony: Frank chatted about it last week, didn't he?
[550.77] ChrisG: Yeah.
[551.81] ChrisG: I was well-gated, I couldn't make it to that.
[555.81] ChrisG: Onwards and upwards to pop them, for sure.
[560.81] Tony: Ah, yes.
[562.81] Tony: Yeah.
[563.81] Tony: Wing racing as well at the same time, isn't it?
[565.81] Tony: Well, not at the same time, but...
[569.81] ChrisG: Yeah.
[570.81] Tony: A bit of wing racing, a bit of X-Class, I think.
[572.81] ChrisG: Yeah, you're going to bring your X-Class, Tony?
[575.81] Tony: We were just discussing that.
[577.81] Tony: I think I might just turn up and see what happens
[579.85] Tony: because I haven't paid for my flying fields this year
[584.85] Tony: because I went once last year
[586.85] Tony: and I just thought, what is the point of me
[588.85] Tony: spending money?
[590.85] Tony: So, yeah, I haven't done no testing
[595.85] Tony: of anything.
[597.85] Tony: I only just flew after not flying for ages the other day
[601.85] Tony: and I lost a drone and spent four hours in the woods
[605.85] Tony: looking for it.
[607.89] Tony: I don't know, the spark's there, but it's just not as bright anymore.
[612.89] Tony: You know, we're ten years in, nearly, of flying
[615.89] Tony: and it's just not that...
[617.89] Tony: I haven't got that, get up and go any more.
[620.89] ChrisG: You're a veteran, that's where you are.
[623.89] ChrisG: That's what it is.
[625.89] ChrisG: You need to pass on the knowledge to the next generation.
[628.89] Tony: Well, I'll go there and tell them to do stuff then.
[631.89] ChrisG: Bestow the wisdom that you have gained.
[634.93] ChrisG: Yes, but I might be able to do something like that.
[637.93] Jack: Do you know what, like, you may mock and you might go...
[644.93] Jack: Me personally, old Jack would have gone,
[647.93] Jack: you know, what knowledge does Tony have,
[653.93] Jack: yada yada yada, blah blah blah.
[656.93] Jack: But without tone, I would not have been flying
[660.93] Jack: like manual.
[662.97] Jack: Yeah, yeah.
[664.97] Jack: So, do you know what I mean?
[666.97] Jack: Tony with the buddy box.
[670.97] Jack: Oh.
[672.97] ChrisG: We've got a whole repertoire of things not to do by now
[676.97] ChrisG: that we can pass on.
[678.97] Tony: What is number one, everyone?
[681.97] Tony: Don't be on fire.
[683.97] Jack: Don't be on fire.
[684.97] ChrisG: No, that's number zero.
[686.97] ChrisG: Zero.
[687.97] ChrisG: Yeah, zero.
[689.97] Jack: I know.
[692.97] Jack: Chris, I might as well show you this,
[695.97] Jack: because we spoke about it.
[698.97] Jack: What's this?
[700.97] Jack: Ian Dayton.
[702.97] Jack: And it's him assembling a boom tricopter.
[709.97] Jack: So if you notice, there's the motor,
[712.97] Jack: there's the shaft and it's belt driven long tone.
[717.97] Jack: And that spins the...
[720.97] Jack: That's cool.
[722.01] Jack: Yeah.
[723.01] Jack: So, we've got some beauty shots.
[729.01] Jack: If I play this...
[732.01] Jack: Merged.
[734.01] Jack: This is 2014.
[738.35] Jack: 2014.
[740.35] Jack: Hobbyking festival flight.
[743.35] Jack: In England?
[745.35] Jack: Yeah.
[746.35] Jack: 2014?
[748.35] ChrisG: Wow.
[749.35] Jack: Yeah.
[751.39] Jack: And it's annoying for me.
[757.3] Jack: I don't think...
[759.3] Jack: It's not my fault.
[763.16] Jack: Maybe it was 2015 festival flight.
[768.16] Jack: Let's try that.
[770.16] Jack: That's not Elmset.
[773.16] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[775.16] Jack: I'm trying to figure out like...
[784.24] Tony: Is there any faces there while still current and trying?
[790.24] Tony: I don't know.
[791.24] Tony: Copyright ban.
[795.8] Jack: Do you reckon?
[797.8] Tony: No, it's probably some YouTube music.
[800.8] Tony: It sounded so crap.
[801.8] Jack: I know.
[802.8] Jack: I think this is...
[805.8] Jack: I don't know.
[806.8] Jack: Look at how much.
[807.8] Jack: He's such a spectacle.
[809.8] Jack: I think that looks...
[810.8] Jack: That's a full Scott the size.
[811.8] Jack: That's the Yak 52.
[814.84] Jack: I was joking.
[816.84] Jack: It would, you know...
[818.84] Jack: That's a big one.
[820.84] Jack: Home, would you ever, if you could, get in a little mini RC jet?
[826.84] Tony: I have thought about it before.
[828.84] Tony: Would you?
[830.84] Tony: The answer is no.
[832.84] Jack: I know.
[834.84] Jack: It would be terrifying.
[835.84] Jack: Would that even be legal, Christian?
[837.84] Jack: Are you allowed to put people...
[839.84] ChrisG: There's only law against you getting into an RC jet.
[843.88] ChrisG: It's the taking off part that's more of an issue.
[846.88] Tony: Let's shrink me down even smaller.
[849.88] Jack: Can you build a small scale like uncertified aircraft and fly it?
[857.88] Jack: Have we got the experimental stuff like the US?
[862.88] Jack: I think that's a thing in America.
[864.88] Tony: I don't know if we can do that here, can we?
[868.88] ChrisG: I don't think you can just slap a sticker on it saying experimental and off you go.
[872.92] ChrisG: Like they do.
[874.92] Jack: How about if we just write the word mental on it with Sharpie?
[880.92] ChrisG: Yeah, that's what it really is.
[882.92] ChrisG: I don't know.
[890.01] ChrisG: I remember that Yak.
[892.01] ChrisG: That pilot was a nutter.
[894.01] Jack: Kevin, I think.
[897.01] Jack: I think that's his name.
[899.01] Jack: Let's try 2016.
[901.01] Jack: It can't.
[903.01] Jack: It couldn't have been...
[905.05] Tony: Whatever ended up going to any of these.
[908.05] Jack: They were a good laugh.
[910.05] Tony: I just couldn't make it when it was on the last couple of times you guys went.
[918.03] ChrisG: The first year I went, there was no health and safety at all.
[922.03] Jack: It was great.
[924.03] Jack: I know.
[925.03] Jack: Good fun.
[926.03] Jack: Look at that wind jostling everything around.
[930.03] Jack: It's amazing.
[932.03] Jack: I'm trying to find footage of said Boomcopter.
[936.07] Jack: Was it in there?
[940.15] Jack: I don't know.
[942.15] Jack: It's like trying to look for a needle in the haystack.
[946.15] ChrisG: What was the perceived advantage of this Boomcopter?
[950.15] Jack: There wasn't really, to be honest with you.
[954.15] Jack: He did it because he felt like it.
[957.15] Jack: Yeah.
[959.15] Jack: That's what I do.
[961.15] Jack: Yeah, exactly.
[963.19] Jack: There was like a bit of a sort of speed increase, shall we say.
[972.19] Jack: It was operated by a foot pedal.
[975.19] Jack: So you got the T-shaped there.
[979.19] Jack: You'd arm and then you could just throttle out
[984.19] Jack: and it would just give you the insane forward thrust.
[990.23] ChrisG: I think that was it.
[993.23] ChrisG: Oh, right. Okay.
[995.23] Jack: Yeah.
[997.23] Jack: Yeah.
[999.23] Jack: At the moment.
[1003.28] Tony: Oh, I need to see footage now.
[1005.28] Jack: Yeah, I will.
[1007.28] Jack: I don't know.
[1009.28] Jack: Tony, try and talk to Chris G.
[1011.28] Tony: Well, why you look for stuff.
[1015.28] Tony: Okay.
[1017.28] Tony: Hi, Chris G.
[1019.28] Tony: Hello.
[1021.32] Tony: How are you doing at Pop'em next weekend?
[1024.32] ChrisG: Same thing as last time.
[1026.32] ChrisG: I've got the Arrow, the 130% FT Arrow.
[1030.32] ChrisG: And I've got the Striker as the backup
[1033.32] ChrisG: because it always seems to be that I get some plane as a primary,
[1038.32] ChrisG: crash it in the first round and then everything else is just Striker after that.
[1042.32] ChrisG: And then it just dominates.
[1046.32] ChrisG: Is that the one that's mostly glue?
[1048.32] ChrisG: Yeah.
[1050.36] ChrisG: Well, most of them are actually glue.
[1052.36] ChrisG: It's the one that Jack really likes the camera on.
[1055.36] ChrisG: So you'll be seeing a bit more of that, I'm sure.
[1058.36] ChrisG: A nice HD0 set up in the FT Arrow.
[1063.36] ChrisG: Oh, here we go.
[1065.36] Tony: Oh, I can see the...
[1067.36] Tony: Oh, yeah.
[1071.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1073.36] Jack: So it really sort of...
[1075.4] Jack: You know, like you get that swooshy sort of like plane deal with a tricopter.
[1080.4] Jack: But you've got to do that annoying tilt to get forward momentum.
[1086.4] ChrisG: Yeah.
[1087.4] Jack: You don't need to now.
[1088.4] Jack: So it really is a tricopter that flies like a plane.
[1093.4] Jack: And your forward momentum is controlled by a foot pedal.
[1098.4] Jack: I like the fact that it's a foot pedal.
[1101.4] Jack: I know, yeah, from a sewing machine.
[1104.44] ChrisG: Not that I don't do a sweatshirt or anything.
[1108.44] Jack: I know.
[1109.44] Jack: I just...
[1111.44] Jack: I thought it was just truly magical.
[1113.44] Jack: There was a really nice like slow-mo video of it like doing its thing.
[1122.44] Jack: And that was in the sort of like hobby king-like footage at the festival flight.
[1131.44] Jack: But it just...
[1133.48] Jack: I don't know.
[1134.48] Jack: I can't find that video anymore.
[1136.48] Tony: Maybe you took it down.
[1138.48] Jack: Yeah.
[1139.48] Jack: It's like hobby king kind of got rid of it.
[1144.21] Jack: I don't know.
[1145.21] Tony: It's pretty cool though, turbo.
[1147.21] Jack: Under slung like heli motor belt driven.
[1151.21] Jack: And it just...
[1154.21] Jack: You know.
[1156.21] Jack: I love that.
[1158.21] Jack: I love that.
[1160.21] Tony: What can we do with a quad?
[1162.21] Jack: I don't know.
[1164.25] Jack: Maybe, I guess.
[1166.25] Jack: Extra turbo.
[1168.25] ChrisG: I wonder what the efficiency was like.
[1171.25] ChrisG: Yeah.
[1172.25] ChrisG: I mean...
[1173.25] ChrisG: Just tilting.
[1176.25] Jack: Yeah.
[1177.25] ChrisG: Down on the drag but up on the thrust.
[1180.25] Jack: Hmm.
[1181.25] ChrisG: It's technically like a quad, let's be honest.
[1184.25] Jack: Yeah.
[1185.25] Jack: Well, technically, yeah, you're right.
[1187.25] Tony: I mean, when he turns it on.
[1190.25] Tony: Only when he puts his foot on that pedal.
[1192.25] Tony: True.
[1193.29] Jack: Yeah.
[1194.29] Jack: But yeah, Ian Davison had like all the...
[1198.29] Jack: You know, he was a big fan of wings and stuff and a bit of the old long range.
[1202.29] Jack: Hmm.
[1203.29] Jack: And yeah, just a all round lovely guy to talk to.
[1208.29] Jack: I mean, I ran into him at the festival flight and that's kind of how I kind of got into...
[1219.33] Jack: Like, you know, got into tricopters really.
[1225.33] Tony: Hmm.
[1227.33] Tony: I think you're the only one out of all of us who'd done tricopter stuff.
[1231.33] Jack: Hmm.
[1232.33] Jack: Well, it's because I had a friend who was like, yep, I want a tricopter.
[1238.33] Jack: And kind of just gave me all the parts.
[1242.33] Jack: And was like, you know, yeah, I'll bankroll it.
[1248.37] Jack: And yeah, like you build it.
[1254.37] Jack: And that's kind of what I did.
[1257.37] Jack: Hmm.
[1258.37] Jack: Yeah.
[1262.79] Jack: So I kind of got to, you know, got to kind of like play around with it and sort it all out.
[1269.79] Jack: Yeah.
[1270.79] Tony: I think you need to get the big one up and running again and do some squishy filming.
[1275.79] Tony: Yeah.
[1276.79] Tony: That's got to be good for filming.
[1279.79] Tony: It was.
[1280.83] Tony: It was.
[1282.83] ChrisG: It was pretty neat.
[1284.83] ChrisG: You just got to get that jaw wobble out of it.
[1287.83] ChrisG: That's what I'm struggling with with the one I just built.
[1290.83] Tony: Well, technically, you don't matter anymore, does it?
[1292.83] Tony: Because the GoPros are so good and get rid of it.
[1295.83] Tony: Yeah.
[1296.83] Tony: Now when you watch back the footage anyway.
[1298.83] Tony: I think from the Hero 7, it started, didn't it?
[1302.83] Tony: Pretty good.
[1303.83] Tony: Yeah.
[1304.87] ChrisG: Yeah.
[1305.87] ChrisG: But the Hero 6 did the did do gyro metadata as well so that you can put it through real
[1312.87] ChrisG: steady.
[1313.87] ChrisG: In fact, that's the best one to use in real steady, they say.
[1316.87] Jack: Really?
[1317.87] Jack: Is it because it's got like the left gyro noise?
[1322.87] ChrisG: Stripped down one on him.
[1324.87] ChrisG: Oh, Sini whoop.
[1327.87] ChrisG: That's a 17 gram GoPro 6.
[1330.87] ChrisG: No way.
[1331.91] ChrisG: Quite nicely.
[1333.91] ChrisG: Flying that through the woods the other day.
[1339.31] Tony: Yeah.
[1340.31] Tony: My Sini whoops are so bloody big now, especially when you can get small ones like that.
[1346.31] UNKNOWN: Mm hmm.
[1347.31] Tony: Might be smooth for the win.
[1349.31] Tony: Yeah.
[1350.31] Tony: I mean, as soon as a GoPro, yes, 7.8.
[1355.31] Tony: And yeah, from 7.
[1357.31] Tony: Even mountain bike footage from test cams and helmet cams just totally changed.
[1363.35] Tony: Yeah.
[1364.35] Tony: So much nicer.
[1365.35] Jack: There's still 100 quid.
[1368.35] Jack: What's that?
[1369.35] Jack: GoPro Hero 6 is.
[1371.35] Jack: Mm hmm.
[1372.35] Jack: Why still?
[1373.35] Jack: Yeah.
[1374.35] Jack: Still basically 100 and C grade 110.
[1381.35] Tony: I think you can get the mini 11 for two and a half hundred on Amazon now.
[1391.9] Tony: I don't know if they're any good or not.
[1394.94] Tony: I mean, I've got a 10 and I'll use it for mountain biking.
[1397.94] Tony: It's pretty good.
[1399.94] Tony: How much more mini is it?
[1406.12] Jack: It's fairly mini.
[1408.12] Jack: Yeah.
[1409.12] Jack: 190 is a hero mini, but.
[1415.12] Tony: 190?
[1416.12] Tony: Was that on Amazon?
[1417.12] Jack: No.
[1418.12] Jack: Secondhand.
[1419.12] Tony: Hmm.
[1420.12] ChrisG: You have to try and strip it down to be less than 17 grams and it'll be mini.
[1425.12] Tony: Yeah.
[1426.16] ChrisG: That's quite a lot of stripping.
[1428.16] ChrisG: Mm hmm.
[1429.16] ChrisG: I didn't have to do it though.
[1430.16] ChrisG: I just bought that quad like it.
[1432.16] Tony: Did you?
[1433.16] ChrisG: That would have been fiddly.
[1435.16] Tony: How do you turn it on and off and stuff then?
[1438.5] Tony: You just use your final.
[1440.5] Tony: No.
[1441.5] Tony: Play still.
[1442.5] ChrisG: Physical buttons.
[1443.5] ChrisG: There's a few ways.
[1444.5] ChrisG: It's got the actual power plug.
[1446.5] ChrisG: I don't know if you can see it.
[1448.5] ChrisG: The white power plug in the middle there.
[1450.5] Jack: Oh yeah.
[1451.5] Jack: Yeah.
[1452.5] Jack: Yeah.
[1455.14] Jack: No, it supplies power.
[1457.18] Jack: Can you control it with your flight controller?
[1459.18] ChrisG: You can, yeah.
[1461.18] ChrisG: But it seems to have stopped working on my one.
[1463.18] ChrisG: So I don't offer with that anymore.
[1465.18] ChrisG: There is a switch you can turn it on and off.
[1467.18] ChrisG: It's just you don't have any feedback on your OSD whether it's actually working or not.
[1471.18] ChrisG: So you've got to see that the light's recording before you put the goggles on and fly
[1475.18] ChrisG: and hope that it still is by the end of it.
[1477.18] ChrisG: And yeah, you do get a lot of corrupted SD cards.
[1481.18] ChrisG: But yeah, you can do it with a flight controller or else it's
[1486.22] Tony: I just got a corrupted SD card.
[1490.22] Tony: Samsung Evo lasted about six years, which is pretty good.
[1495.22] Tony: Yeah.
[1496.22] Tony: And then it just went.
[1498.22] Tony: But they have got a lifetime of but not a lifetime.
[1501.22] Tony: They've got a limited amount of time on the SD cards.
[1505.22] Tony: Yeah.
[1506.22] Tony: Like most things really.
[1508.22] Jack: Yes, I found.
[1510.22] Jack: He found it.
[1512.22] Jack: I found it.
[1513.22] Jack: Here you go.
[1514.26] Jack: It's a hobby King Live weekly update.
[1518.26] Jack: There you go.
[1520.26] (VT): It was during the Facebook show video.
[1524.26] (VT): I saw that cool tricopter with the propeller.
[1527.26] (VT): I caught it in slow motion.
[1529.26] (VT): Since I was running around, I was a one man show that day.
[1532.26] (VT): I didn't get a chance to speak to the owner myself.
[1534.26] (VT): But I did put the camera on the middle of a conversation that Stewart David
[1539.26] (VT): and the owner were having about the clock about that multi rotor.
[1543.3] (VT): And I want to leave you with that in its rawest form.
[1546.3] (VT): So guys, here it is.
[1547.3] (VT): Enjoy it.
[1548.3] (VT): And we'll see you next week.
[1550.3] (VT): Very fast, right?
[1551.3] (VT): Yeah.
[1552.3] (VT): Yeah.
[1553.3] (VT): Anyways, you got the all wires going to the center of your propeller.
[1555.3] (VT): Which is quite a bizarre concept.
[1556.3] (VT): You can head around it.
[1557.3] (VT): Yeah.
[1558.3] (VT): That's so cool.
[1559.3] (VT): There's a bearing on the outside.
[1560.3] (VT): Yes.
[1561.3] (VT): There's a bearing on the other end.
[1562.3] (VT): And there's two bearings on the other end of it.
[1564.3] (VT): That happens in two.
[1565.3] (VT): Well, it's just absolutely super clever.
[1568.3] (VT): That's just balancing.
[1570.34] (VT): It's just a balance of metal tape actually.
[1573.34] (VT): These are balancing fly fishing or something like that.
[1576.34] (VT): Yeah.
[1577.34] (VT): Adhesive thin tape.
[1578.34] (VT): Metal tape.
[1579.34] ChrisG: Of course.
[1580.34] (VT): Dave Lindestal.
[1581.34] (VT): Yeah.
[1582.34] ChrisG: It's just balancing.
[1583.34] ChrisG: Yeah, of course.
[1584.34] ChrisG: The diamond.
[1585.34] ChrisG: It's a small tricopter.
[1586.34] (VT): Quite a few.
[1587.34] (VT): Yeah.
[1588.34] (VT): Quite a few.
[1589.34] (VT): Is it the first one?
[1591.34] (VT): I built.
[1592.34] (VT): So my first one was basically the Talon tricopter.
[1595.34] (VT): Yeah.
[1596.34] (VT): Which I put this on.
[1597.34] (VT): And then I sort of designed it with a scratch.
[1599.38] (VT): Not with this one.
[1600.38] (VT): No, this hasn't been anywhere.
[1602.38] (VT): I love these black projects that come out of nowhere.
[1606.38] (VT): I love your dampening.
[1607.38] (VT): Yeah.
[1608.38] (VT): So the way this works.
[1609.38] (VT): So again, this bit here, this green bit,
[1611.38] (VT): it's completely isolated in the west.
[1614.38] (VT): And it's floating.
[1616.38] (VT): Right.
[1617.38] (VT): And so what these are, these are...
[1620.38] (VT): Insulating pipes?
[1621.38] (VT): Close.
[1622.38] (VT): No, they're actually sponge pads
[1624.38] (VT): that go between pie hat symbols.
[1626.38] (VT): Yeah.
[1627.38] (VT): Really?
[1628.42] (VT): They give off eBay for like, I don't know, 50p.
[1630.42] (VT): And they work great.
[1631.42] (VT): And they're perfect.
[1632.42] (VT): Yeah, perfect.
[1633.42] (VT): So they're round.
[1634.42] (VT): And they put them there.
[1635.42] (VT): No, that's great.
[1636.42] (VT): They're already round.
[1637.42] (VT): Yeah.
[1638.42] (VT): So they're round inset.
[1639.42] (VT): So it sits in there.
[1640.42] (VT): That's really, really good.
[1643.42] (VT): Yeah, it's really clean.
[1644.42] (VT): What's the olive weight on it?
[1646.42] (VT): It's about normal weight.
[1647.42] (VT): About 1.7 or so.
[1649.42] (VT): Not bad at all.
[1650.42] Jack: It's not bad at all.
[1651.42] Jack: It's a little more than 1.7 is.
[1653.42] Jack: Any idea?
[1654.42] Jack: Is that...
[1655.42] Jack: Time?
[1656.46] ChrisG: Yeah, I reckon.
[1659.46] (VT): That's the beauty of 3D printing.
[1661.46] (VT): You get so many colours now.
[1663.46] (VT): You can get glow in the dark colours.
[1665.46] (VT): Right, excellent.
[1666.46] (VT): So that's pretty good, I reckon.
[1668.46] Tony: Was that 3D printing stuff that you were saying there?
[1671.46] Tony: Yeah, it was 3D printing at the body.
[1673.46] (VT): So the one thing I realised with PA though
[1676.46] (VT): is it makes an awful lot of difference
[1679.46] (VT): to make sure you print with the grain.
[1681.46] (VT): So you get the grain in the right direction.
[1683.46] (VT): Like hair, for example, these are really strong.
[1685.5] (VT): But the grain's going that way.
[1687.5] (VT): So first I printed it vertically
[1689.5] (VT): and the grain's going that way, and it snaps.
[1691.5] (VT): But now they're very strong,
[1692.5] (VT): surely because the grain's going the right way.
[1694.5] ChrisG: OK, we've got a little coloring.
[1698.5] ChrisG: Very cool.
[1700.5] Jack: Nice find, and that was what?
[1702.5] Jack: 2014, 2014.
[1704.5] Jack: Also, Tone, I had this as well.
[1709.5] Jack: This guy...
[1711.5] Jack: Do you remember we flew...
[1713.54] Jack: Well, I flew off the ferry.
[1716.54] Jack: This is where I got it from this guy.
[1719.54] Jack: This guy done his beautiful shot.
[1722.54] Jack: Look at that nugget.
[1724.54] Jack: So he's like taking off from a boat.
[1727.54] Jack: And I think he works on there.
[1731.54] Jack: And I think it's like moving like sugarcane or whatnot.
[1735.54] Jack: But this guy would just all day...
[1739.58] Jack: Like whenever he got time off,
[1742.58] Jack: would just fly around and off the cruise ships and stuff.
[1747.58] Tony: That was his first little shot you'd ever see of stuff like that.
[1752.58] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[1753.58] Jack: Like how cool is that?
[1756.58] Jack: So I knew it was possible, but...
[1759.58] ChrisG: He never put one in the drink.
[1761.58] Jack: He did. He had like a little mini quad.
[1765.62] Jack: And I think the...
[1769.62] Jack: I think the ship kind of just got away from him.
[1773.62] Jack: Like he was doing like a really sort of like slow orbit.
[1776.62] Jack: And he just didn't have enough in the tank
[1779.62] Jack: to like jump up and then land.
[1783.62] Jack: The ship was like always getting away from him.
[1786.62] Jack: But his YouTube channel was...
[1789.62] Jack: Oh, contact it.
[1791.66] Tony: Watch some of this stuff back in the day.
[1794.66] Tony: Yeah.
[1795.66] ChrisG: Reckon there's that amazing DIY project.
[1798.66] ChrisG: So I like this guy.
[1800.66] Jack: Yeah.
[1801.66] Jack: So I thought you'd like that.
[1806.66] Jack: I'm going to try and...
[1810.66] Jack: Go through.
[1812.66] Jack: Hobby Kings.
[1814.66] Jack: They finally added like the oldest tab back.
[1818.7] Jack: But at least I've got like nine years.
[1821.7] Tony: Do the Hobby Kings still exist?
[1823.7] Tony: Do they make a comeback?
[1825.7] Jack: They have.
[1826.7] Jack: Chris, have you bought anything yet?
[1828.7] ChrisG: No. I want to know where their warehouse is.
[1831.7] Jack: I don't know.
[1833.7] Jack: I...
[1835.7] Jack: Do you want to type it in for...
[1838.7] Jack: I mean...
[1841.7] Jack: Hang on, I've got to write a treat for you.
[1845.74] Jack: I don't know.
[1847.74] Jack: Do you want to try and type it in to like company's house?
[1852.74] Jack: And have a look and see.
[1856.74] Jack: Look at this.
[1857.74] Jack: 12 years ago.
[1858.74] Jack: DIY.
[1859.74] Jack: Quad.
[1860.74] Jack: Ploywood.
[1861.74] Jack: Quadray.
[1862.74] Jack: What is this, man?
[1865.74] ChrisG: Do you remember they sold a gimbal
[1868.74] ChrisG: that was just like a passive
[1871.74] ChrisG: moving on a bearing kind of gimbal.
[1874.78] ChrisG: A gimbal with no motors in it.
[1878.76] (VT): Just a quadcopter frame.
[1880.76] Jack: Look at it.
[1881.76] Jack: Look at that nugget.
[1883.76] (VT): This computer model is sold in kit form.
[1886.76] Tony: I mean, what was this?
[1888.76] Tony: It feels like the 60s.
[1892.76] Jack: 12 years ago.
[1894.76] Jack: It was on the 22nd of December 2011.
[1900.76] Jack: Build your drone out of wood, man.
[1903.8] Jack: Like...
[1904.8] Tony: I mean, it'd probably be a good idea to use them
[1908.8] Tony: in certain places now.
[1910.8] Jack: Well, I mean, it's very eco-friendly.
[1913.8] Tony: Hobbyking is still alive.
[1918.62] Tony: Zero.
[1919.62] Tony: Zero, how's it going?
[1922.62] Jack: The best mod.
[1923.62] Jack: Caroline, have you bought anything from them?
[1926.62] Jack: I'm trying to think of like people
[1930.62] Jack: that would actually buy anything from said Hobbyking.
[1935.62] Tony: I have bought nanotech batteries back in the day.
[1939.62] Tony: Recently, yeah.
[1940.62] Jack: I mean, recently since they...
[1943.62] Tony: Dynaline is my last purchase of batteries.
[1946.62] Jack: You know what you should do?
[1947.62] Jack: You should buy something from them
[1951.62] Jack: and then go into the sort of like return policy thing
[1957.62] Jack: but put an air tag in it and see where it ends up.
[1960.62] Jack: That's the only real way to know.
[1963.62] Jack: Have a look on the website,
[1970.6] Jack: see what the cheapest thing there is to buy
[1973.6] Jack: and then we'll buy an air tag.
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[2004.17] ChrisG: Right, Jack, I've got to send you something.
[2006.17] Frank: Oh yeah.
[2008.17] ChrisG: Check this out.
[2010.17] ChrisG: It's going to blow your mind.
[2012.17] ChrisG: I only just heard about it today.
[2015.17] Jack: Is this what I think it is?
[2017.17] Jack: Is this like one of those weird things that you strap yourself in
[2022.17] Jack: and you you're in a massive warehouse.
[2025.17] Jack: Yes.
[2027.17] Jack: Healing balloon and you like him about.
[2031.17] Jack: I have not got a balloon big enough to lift me.
[2036.17] Tony: You have to have two.
[2038.17] ChrisG: I never knew this was a thing until today.
[2041.17] Jack: Didn't Tom Scott cover it?
[2044.17] Jack: Tom, Tom Scott covered it, I think.
[2047.17] ChrisG: I never watch him.
[2048.17] ChrisG: That's probably why I don't know.
[2050.17] Jack: You missed out.
[2052.17] Jack: How's life with owning three sheds?
[2056.17] ChrisG: Yes, good.
[2058.17] ChrisG: I think I need another one.
[2059.17] ChrisG: So I just bought a bike today.
[2062.17] ChrisG: What a push bike or a motorbike?
[2065.17] ChrisG: An e-bike that's in bits that I need to rebuild.
[2068.17] ChrisG: Oh, no.
[2070.17] ChrisG: I couldn't say no, really.
[2072.17] ChrisG: That was like 50 quid and it's got a fat motor, fat tires on it.
[2076.17] ChrisG: But there's all the boring bits like brakes and chains and stuff that I have to also put on.
[2084.17] ChrisG: I've got a massive ESC, just a massive e-bike ESC waiting to do something.
[2090.17] ChrisG: I've had it for ages.
[2091.17] ChrisG: So this is pretty good.
[2092.17] Jack: Oh, so you found someone's half finished project.
[2096.17] Jack: Yeah.
[2097.17] Jack: And you're like, I have an ESC.
[2100.17] Jack: Yeah.
[2101.17] Jack: Let's do this.
[2105.17] Jack: Oh, my God.
[2106.17] Tony: Do you remember?
[2107.17] Tony: Twist for all or are you going to ride it with your no-ends and an RC?
[2115.17] ChrisG: No, it'll be a twist for all of some sort.
[2119.17] Jack: For legal reasons, Chris G will only have pedal assist.
[2125.17] Jack: Yeah.
[2126.17] Jack: Because that's the law.
[2128.17] Tony: Isn't that right, Chris?
[2130.17] Tony: You can only ride one at a time.
[2138.17] ChrisG: Yeah, but you never know.
[2141.17] ChrisG: If you attach them together well enough.
[2144.17] Jack: Yeah, I suppose.
[2145.17] Jack: Terrible one.
[2146.17] Jack: Oh, the KK2 guide from Hobbyking.
[2152.17] Jack: I ask you, and there's like Joel Null.
[2156.17] Jack: Do you remember that?
[2158.17] Jack: I just got an email about that, Joel Null.
[2166.17] Tony: I went to America once and flew, actually, a couple of times and flew out there.
[2172.17] Jack: Did you fly it, Joel?
[2173.17] Tony: No.
[2174.17] Tony: But I'll get emails from all that because I have to be insured to fly out there and all that.
[2182.17] Tony: Texas and Florida times I went.
[2187.17] Tony: So I'll just get emails all the time from them.
[2191.17] Jack: It's something I've always wanted to do.
[2195.17] Tony: Well, go there and fly.
[2197.17] Jack: Yeah, you know, because...
[2199.17] Tony: Yeah, why don't you make it come reality then?
[2202.17] Tony: Don't use some pennies.
[2205.17] Jack: Yeah, look at that.
[2207.17] Jack: Mate, you know how it is.
[2209.17] Jack: You know, you try and get on top of something and then something else happens.
[2215.17] Jack: I'm in breaks or...
[2218.17] Tony: I'm getting all changed tomorrow.
[2221.17] Tony: I've got two new tires to get.
[2223.17] Tony: My dog just cost me a small fortune.
[2226.17] Tony: Yeah, how is it?
[2228.17] Tony: Thanks.
[2229.17] Tony: It's good.
[2231.17] Jack: Hobbyking FPV 250 racing quad 10 years ago.
[2236.17] Tony: NanoTac 330.
[2238.17] Tony: What's that?
[2239.17] Tony: Hobbyking daily energy ready to fly quad there.
[2244.17] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[2246.17] Jack: Remember the Mobius action camera?
[2249.17] Jack: Oh, my word.
[2251.17] Jack: Christian, have you smashed up or lost?
[2256.17] ChrisG: No, we've still got the same one that I've always had.
[2259.17] ChrisG: No way, you've got your own one.
[2262.17] ChrisG: Yeah, I've got it somewhere.
[2263.17] ChrisG: I don't know if it still works, but I haven't got it.
[2266.17] Tony: I can't remember.
[2267.17] Tony: It's like a tea chain moving in.
[2269.17] Tony: A tea can.
[2271.17] ChrisG: Yeah, there was a big war back in the day between Mobius and key chain cam.
[2277.17] Tony: I ordered one of them.
[2279.17] Tony: Walk here at QR350 and I never got it.
[2285.17] Tony: But I got my money back.
[2287.17] Tony: I was really excited to get one of them and then I ended up with DJI.
[2292.17] Tony: So, probably for the win.
[2295.17] Jack: Easy OHF 433JR module.
[2300.17] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[2301.17] ChrisG: We have it too easy on Crossfire these days.
[2305.17] Jack: Oh, 868 for the win.
[2307.17] Jack: And the LRS, whatnot.
[2310.17] Jack: Have you made the transition from Spectrum or are you still doing the weird module bay?
[2321.17] Jack: Why aren't you still from the last game?
[2324.17] ChrisG: I'm still flying with this.
[2327.17] ChrisG: The tricot was on Crossfire.
[2329.17] ChrisG: So, just got a Crossfire on the back.
[2331.17] Jack: I'd like to point out that QR250 is holding up Spectrum.
[2335.17] Jack: Was it DX9?
[2337.17] Jack: DX8.
[2338.17] ChrisG: Yeah, I wish it DX9.
[2340.17] ChrisG: I did DX9 at one point.
[2343.17] ChrisG: But yeah, that's on Crossfire.
[2346.17] ChrisG: That's on Crossfire.
[2348.17] ChrisG: That is on Spectrum.
[2352.17] ChrisG: And that's on Spectrum.
[2354.17] ChrisG: But I don't think that's going to be flying much anymore.
[2357.17] ChrisG: Because you might have noticed, I don't know if you can see, but it's quite banana shaped.
[2361.17] ChrisG: Because it's 3D printed and I left it in my car on a hot day.
[2365.17] ChrisG: No.
[2367.17] ChrisG: I can't like it.
[2369.17] Jack: That plane is too big.
[2371.17] ChrisG: Can you leave it in a hot day the other way round?
[2376.17] ChrisG: No, it was in my car at work.
[2378.17] ChrisG: I had to go and do something over the field.
[2380.17] ChrisG: And then I thought after about an hour of sizzling sunshine.
[2384.17] ChrisG: I did leave the windows open, everything.
[2386.17] ChrisG: But still.
[2388.17] Tony: That's how dogs die in hot cars.
[2390.17] Tony: The planes bend.
[2392.17] Tony: Yes.
[2393.17] Jack: It's not your sexuality that bends, Tony.
[2395.17] Jack: It's your 3D printed plane on your hot car.
[2399.17] Tony: Jack, I just had a horrible thought.
[2402.17] Tony: What?
[2403.17] Tony: The X-Class won't even be on my Pranis, will it?
[2409.17] Tony: Why?
[2411.17] Tony: Because you updated it and I don't think we've paired them or whatever.
[2416.17] Jack: Yeah.
[2418.17] Tony: No, I don't think we did.
[2420.17] Jack: Yeah, of course.
[2422.17] Tony: Did we?
[2423.17] Jack: Yeah.
[2424.17] Jack: Because it was built and done at the same time.
[2427.17] Tony: No, the older one on my wall.
[2430.17] Jack: Oh, that. No.
[2432.17] Jack: No.
[2433.17] Jack: It should still be the same.
[2436.17] Jack: No.
[2438.17] Tony: I can't even remember how you do it.
[2440.17] Tony: Oh, someone will.
[2442.17] Tony: A little figure here.
[2444.17] Jack: Happy Fourth of July, everyone, from Hobbyking.
[2449.17] Tony: I bought some of them green batteries.
[2451.17] Tony: I had a massive 1,600 multi-star.
[2454.17] Jack: Yeah, we attached it to the ******* Doctor.
[2457.17] Jack: That was one of my worst mistakes, was getting rid of the ******* Doctor.
[2462.17] Tony: Didn't we burn it to keep more?
[2465.54] Jack: No, I sold it on eBay.
[2467.54] Jack: I messaged the guy and was like,
[2469.54] Jack: mate, if you ever get rid of it, let me know.
[2472.54] Jack: Like trying to email the guy.
[2474.54] Jack: I was like, no Clive.
[2477.54] Jack: Yeah, like no reply.
[2479.54] Jack: I was just like,
[2480.54] Jack: mate, the KK mini flight controller.
[2485.54] Jack: Oh.
[2487.54] Jack: Best of all flight, second update.
[2492.54] Jack: Where's the first update?
[2495.54] Tony: Did I release any videos of anything anymore?
[2501.54] Jack: I don't know.
[2502.54] Jack: I don't think so.
[2504.54] Jack: Not what I've seen.
[2506.54] ChrisG: Bolt HV batteries, I remember those.
[2509.54] ChrisG: They were fantastic for the first cycle and then they just exploded.
[2514.54] Jack: Yeah, of course.
[2516.54] ChrisG: They had gold-plated balance connectors for all the bling.
[2521.54] ChrisG: I like the ones you overcharge a bit.
[2523.54] ChrisG: Yeah.
[2525.54] Tony: And got what, three more seconds or something?
[2528.54] ChrisG: They had a big spiel on there about how you can overcharge them safely.
[2533.54] ChrisG: It just meant they wouldn't explode the first time you did it.
[2538.92] Jack: Yeah.
[2540.92] Jack: August 18th, 2014.
[2544.92] Jack: So that was the first update of the Hobbyking festival flight.
[2551.92] Tony: Do you remember what ones you went to?
[2553.92] Jack: This one, yeah.
[2555.92] Jack: What a update.
[2557.92] Jack: I was hoping for some footage.
[2560.92] Jack: There's no footage right here.
[2562.92] Jack: Damn it.
[2564.92] Jack: I will keep looking.
[2566.92] Jack: I'm sorry.
[2567.92] ChrisG: It's taken me a bit.
[2570.26] ChrisG: Go on.
[2571.26] ChrisG: Jack, I did promise you that I would fly my tricopter in my living room.
[2576.26] ChrisG: Please.
[2577.26] ChrisG: So I see that while you're looking.
[2579.26] ChrisG: Yeah.
[2580.26] ChrisG: If it explodes, then, you know, you might miss it.
[2583.26] ChrisG: That'll be all right.
[2586.67] Tony: We may have to mute Chris.
[2588.67] ChrisG: You're not being loud.
[2590.67] ChrisG: This should go perfectly.
[2593.67] Tony: Perfectly wrong.
[2596.67] Tony: Is that just the light bulb hanging down?
[2599.67] ChrisG: No, it's quite a shame.
[2602.67] Tony: Yeah, watch it.
[2604.67] Tony: Honest.
[2607.62] Tony: What's rule one?
[2609.62] Jack: No.
[2610.62] Jack: Don't be a dick.
[2611.62] Tony: Don't be a dick.
[2613.62] Tony: What's rule milk?
[2614.62] Tony: Don't be on fire.
[2615.62] Tony: I haven't done that yet.
[2617.62] Jack: Yeah.
[2618.62] Jack: Rule two is don't put your hand anywhere.
[2622.62] Tony: Didn't blow up.
[2625.62] Tony: That's the best rule of all.
[2628.62] Jack: Yeah.
[2632.54] Jack: Rule three is an angry Frank is a dangerous Frank.
[2637.54] Tony: Yeah.
[2639.54] ChrisG: Props aren't right.
[2641.54] ChrisG: Props are on fine, but it likes to jitter a bit when it's on the ground.
[2646.54] Tony: Oh, okay.
[2647.54] Tony: I forgot it's got them.
[2649.54] ChrisG: Yeah, let me mute myself.
[2651.54] Jack: It's flying.
[2652.54] Jack: It is flying.
[2653.54] Jack: It's taken up.
[2655.54] Jack: It is taken off in his living room.
[2658.54] Jack: It is quite stable.
[2660.54] Jack: Very quiet.
[2662.54] Jack: He's muted, isn't he?
[2664.54] Jack: He takes quad with what I can only describe as post-it note looking things
[2670.54] Jack: like motors, the angle and change the thrust direction from the air that's
[2681.54] Jack: moving over these control surfaces.
[2684.54] Jack: Chris, I don't know whether you can hear us, but can you do us a fast yawl
[2689.54] Jack: rotation?
[2691.54] Tony: Right.
[2692.54] Tony: Well done.
[2694.54] Jack: Thank you, Chris.
[2696.54] Jack: He did not.
[2697.54] Tony: It does look stable.
[2698.54] Tony: Well done.
[2699.54] Jack: Could you do us a yawl spin?
[2702.54] Tony: All right.
[2703.54] Jack: Why not?
[2704.54] Tony: Now he's going to break it.
[2707.54] Tony: Last battery.
[2708.54] ChrisG: If I hide on the stairs, then yeah.
[2712.54] UNKNOWN: Yes.
[2713.54] Tony: Jack, what are you doing?
[2715.54] Tony: You're going to make him cry.
[2716.54] Jack: Well, it's, you know, it's...
[2719.54] Tony: Entertainment?
[2720.54] Jack: Yes, it's entertainment.
[2722.54] Jack: Entertain these people.
[2724.54] Jack: I don't know why he mutes.
[2726.54] Jack: Chris, don't think we want to hear the screams.
[2731.54] ChrisG: All right.
[2732.54] UNKNOWN: Fine.
[2733.54] Jack: Yeah.
[2734.54] Tony: Well, headphone users...
[2736.54] Tony: You might have to edit this.
[2739.54] Tony: This is how you get on these monitors now.
[2742.54] Jack: Time to pray for an RC God that you may or may not.
[2750.42] Tony: Open the door.
[2751.42] Tony: Look through your window and do it.
[2753.42] Jack: No, because people will then weirdly look weird.
[2758.42] Jack: It's not as bad as I thought it would be.
[2767.44] Jack: The worst that's going to happen is the blinds are going to get it.
[2770.44] Tony: It's going, isn't it?
[2776.66] Tony: I'm quite loosely going.
[2779.66] Jack: What is the most quickest yawl spin that you can do?
[2786.66] Jack: Right.
[2787.66] Jack: Does it spin easier one way than the other?
[2791.66] Tony: It's quite docile.
[2797.95] Jack: Well, funny than that, it's the way Chris is doing it.
[2801.95] Jack: Chris, does it turn faster one way or the other?
[2809.73] Jack: Yes, probably.
[2811.73] ChrisG: I think so.
[2813.73] ChrisG: I was hoping for some hardcore...
[2816.73] ChrisG: Well done.
[2817.73] Tony: Not being on fire.
[2820.73] Tony: Not yet.
[2821.73] ChrisG: Yeah.
[2822.73] ChrisG: There's always time.
[2824.73] ChrisG: Yeah, they do tend to turn faster one way than the other normally,
[2828.73] ChrisG: but I haven't noticed it that much on this one yet.
[2833.73] ChrisG: It needs more flight testing.
[2836.73] Jack: Well, it looks pretty cool.
[2839.73] Jack: That's Hobbyking 2014 Festival of Flight.
[2842.73] Jack: Everybody's setting up.
[2843.73] Jack: I wish the sun would come out, but we got absolutely no wind.
[2847.73] Jack: It doesn't look like we're going to have any wind.
[2849.73] Jack: I think this is the one that I'm in.
[2851.73] ChrisG: Yeah, I remember this one, actually.
[2854.73] ChrisG: I remember this guy.
[2856.73] Jack: Zoe, we're watching a video from Hobbyking Festival of Flight.
[2860.73] Jack: What did you think of that wing launch, Chris?
[2863.73] Jack: Weird.
[2864.73] Jack: I was not impressed with that.
[2866.73] ChrisG: I mean, it worked.
[2868.73] ChrisG: I'm not the best at launching wings, and his method seemed to work.
[2872.73] Jack: Yeah.
[2873.73] ChrisG: I don't think I'll do it.
[2874.73] ChrisG: A lot of spectrum.
[2875.73] Jack: Oh, man, the red one.
[2877.73] Jack: There's the helicopter.
[2879.73] Jack: The slow...
[2881.73] Jack: Look at that go, man.
[2882.73] Jack: The slow-mo shot.
[2884.73] Jack: So good it got a second mention.
[2888.73] Jack: This is what made me fall in love, man.
[2891.73] Jack: You know, we just don't have events like this anymore.
[2895.73] Jack: You'd be flying your models, you'd get bored, you'd have a cup of tea,
[2899.73] Jack: and then you would stand there for the next, like, 20 minutes, half an hour,
[2904.73] Jack: and there'd be something full-scale going on.
[2907.73] ChrisG: And it was free as well.
[2909.73] ChrisG: Yep.
[2910.73] ChrisG: It was really nice.
[2912.73] Tony: Yeah, I've got a western farm, but...
[2914.73] (VT): Yeah, but we've let Frank down.
[2919.04] (VT): We're coming down to our festival of flight in beautiful sunny England.
[2922.04] (VT): I can't help it.
[2923.04] (VT): It's beautiful nonetheless.
[2925.04] (VT): The team here over at the UK warehouse have been working extremely hard
[2929.04] (VT): to put this event on, so I know I can ask you guys to put your hands together
[2933.04] (VT): and show them some appreciation for that.
[2935.04] (VT): We could all clap now for those guys, please.
[2941.34] Jack: Where are you, Jack?
[2942.34] (VT): Everybody at Hobbyking would just like to say a sincere thank you for coming down.
[2946.34] (VT): You, ladies and gentlemen, will make the hobby,
[2948.34] (VT): and it will make us a success in VR.
[2951.34] (VT): Probably somewhere on the...
[2955.34] Jack: On the right.
[2956.34] (VT): We've got a flight line going now.
[2959.34] (VT): If you've got something to fly, bring it across the flight line,
[2962.34] (VT): make hay while the sun almost shines, and enjoy the rest of the day.
[2965.34] Jack: Thank you very much for coming.
[2967.34] Jack: A typical English...
[2969.34] Jack: Great.
[2970.34] Jack: It's anything, isn't it?
[2972.34] Jack: Yeah.
[2973.34] Jack: I am rubber.
[2977.44] Tony: It needs to...
[2978.44] Tony: It didn't look what's in the wind.
[2979.44] Jack: Look at this, man.
[2982.44] Jack: Is that a line of sight?
[2983.44] Jack: Yeah, a line of sight, PK2, as well.
[2986.44] Jack: It was the one that had, like, some sort of error in it
[2989.44] Jack: that allowed it to do that.
[2997.44] Tony: Look at that.
[2998.44] Tony: I'm flying my drone without using any hands.
[3001.44] Jack: Yeah.
[3002.44] Jack: Look at this.
[3003.44] Jack: I know that was the novelty.
[3008.42] Jack: Mate, those full-scale guys, they were just like...
[3012.42] Jack: Come and just show up, and...
[3016.9] Jack: Nigel was incredible.
[3019.9] Jack: Like...
[3021.9] Jack: Those line of sight guys were unreal.
[3025.9] Jack: Is that an ugly stick, Chris?
[3027.9] Jack: Yep.
[3029.9] Jack: That, see? I know stuff.
[3031.9] Jack: Oh, he crashed.
[3033.9] Tony: He crashed.
[3035.9] Tony: Yeah, it's Winder Cell.
[3037.9] Jack: He did, yep.
[3038.9] Jack: Flying some fixed wing.
[3040.9] Jack: Chris Stewart.
[3042.9] Jack: It was just a spectacle, and, you know,
[3045.9] Jack: I think David rear-ended him.
[3049.9] Jack: Look how young David looks.
[3051.9] Jack: Now he's all beardy.
[3052.9] Jack: He looks like a super Vikingy now.
[3055.9] ChrisG: He's gone back to his ancestral roots.
[3058.9] Jack: I know, he really has.
[3061.9] Jack: Full Swedish.
[3063.9] Jack: I do miss him.
[3073.9] Jack: These guys...
[3074.9] Jack: I mean, these guys took off.
[3079.2] Tony: Why don't you get them to turn up?
[3081.2] Jack: Right next to us.
[3083.2] Jack: I mean, you could throw a stone at how close they landed to us.
[3089.2] Jack: And done, like, a hover right next to you.
[3092.2] Jack: It was incredible.
[3094.2] Jack: You could feel the...
[3095.2] Jack: It was like something off of math.
[3097.2] Jack: It was excellent.
[3103.05] Jack: Oh, my God.
[3104.05] Jack: There's so much of this.
[3105.05] Jack: It's like a 16-minute episode.
[3108.05] Jack: You're right.
[3111.05] Jack: It was like a glider.
[3114.81] Jack: Full-scale gliders.
[3116.81] Jack: Yeah, this is...
[3122.51] Jack: If I'm going to be anywhere, it'll be here.
[3129.22] Jack: This guy was incredible, doing...
[3131.22] Jack: It's like 9-a-square, AK2.
[3135.22] Jack: 3D at Crow.
[3138.22] Jack: But it's not 3D.
[3141.22] Tony: That's pretty cool.
[3146.54] Tony: It's so...
[3147.54] Jack: It's so good.
[3148.54] Jack: And the only...
[3149.54] Jack: You've got to remember,
[3151.54] Jack: the only way he knows what direction it is,
[3154.54] Jack: is from him.
[3155.54] Jack: Colour from?
[3156.54] Jack: There I am.
[3158.54] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[3159.54] Tony: Hey, look at Margaret.
[3161.54] Tony: Yeah.
[3162.54] Tony: Look at Margaret's hair.
[3164.54] Jack: I know.
[3167.54] Jack: There you go.
[3169.54] Jack: Told you.
[3171.54] Tony: I think you should get your hair done.
[3175.58] Jack: Good flight for Tophie then.
[3177.58] Jack: Hadn't met Tony.
[3179.58] Jack: Hadn't been annoyed by Tony yet.
[3182.58] Tony: Told you.
[3186.79] ChrisG: One down tricopter.
[3188.79] Jack: I know.
[3192.46] Jack: These, by the way, is a Bixler
[3195.46] Jack: with a paint roller at the bottom of it.
[3197.46] Jack: And they loaded them up with paint
[3200.46] Jack: and were flying it over the top of people's caravans
[3204.46] Jack: and painting the top of their caravans,
[3206.46] Jack: doing touches and touch and goes.
[3209.46] Jack: It was just...
[3210.46] Jack: It was carnage.
[3211.46] Jack: Like, nothing was safe.
[3212.46] Jack: It was like...
[3215.46] Jack: It was like there was no rules.
[3217.46] Jack: Do you know what I mean?
[3218.46] Jack: You'd be...
[3219.46] Jack: You'd literally be stood there
[3222.46] Jack: and a plane would just...
[3223.46] Jack: Like, a model plane would just crash
[3225.46] Jack: into the side of your head
[3226.46] Jack: and you'd laugh
[3228.46] Jack: and that's all that would happen.
[3237.8] Jack: It was crazy.
[3243.8] Jack: And they were just drinking.
[3247.8] Jack: It was just alcohol-tastic.
[3251.8] Jack: But there you go.
[3252.8] Jack: Back when.
[3255.62] Jack: Hobbying was fun.
[3257.62] Jack: I know.
[3258.62] Jack: I'm going to like this video.
[3260.62] Jack: Ben's court knobs.
[3262.62] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[3264.62] Jack: I want to see that.
[3265.62] Jack: Or you want to see Ben in court knobs.
[3267.62] Jack: I'll bet I'll win it.
[3268.62] Jack: They've not.
[3269.62] Jack: Hang on.
[3270.62] Jack: So, these are the horrific videos I've come across.
[3280.74] Jack: This is...
[3281.74] Jack: We probably haven't got much time.
[3283.74] Jack: But there you go.
[3284.74] Jack: He puts in return to home
[3287.74] Jack: and there's a building in the way.
[3291.74] Jack: Boom.
[3292.74] Jack: Next video.
[3294.74] Jack: What I'm going to do is I'm going to fly.
[3297.74] Jack: I'm going to take off.
[3298.74] Jack: Really high.
[3299.74] Jack: I'm going to go through the clouds.
[3302.74] Jack: I'm going to go above the clouds.
[3306.74] Jack: Then I...
[3307.74] Tony: I think you should have got something
[3309.74] Tony: like 10 million views in it.
[3312.74] Tony: 15 million.
[3314.74] Jack: I planned a short GPS controlled high altitude flight
[3318.74] Jack: going straight up and then straight down.
[3321.74] Jack: I do not perform high altitude flights anymore
[3324.74] Jack: and do not fly over populated areas.
[3327.74] Jack: Oh my God, mate.
[3329.74] Jack: You want to...
[3331.74] Jack: And look at it.
[3332.74] Jack: It's going down.
[3334.74] Jack: And this monitor...
[3335.74] Jack: At this point,
[3336.74] Jack: this monitor turns all black.
[3340.74] Jack: And then, yeah.
[3342.74] Jack: There you go.
[3344.74] Jack: That's mashed up.
[3346.74] Tony: That's definitely...
[3348.74] Tony: What do you call it?
[3350.74] Jack: It's your spire around London.
[3353.74] Jack: Oh, I've seen this, yeah.
[3356.74] Jack: This guy...
[3357.74] Jack: He didn't.
[3358.74] Jack: Oh, it's horrendous.
[3360.74] Tony: He didn't.
[3362.74] Tony: When was this?
[3364.74] ChrisG: And the way he's talking about how it's all okay as well.
[3367.74] ChrisG: Yeah, here you go.
[3368.74] ChrisG: Look at the size of the thing.
[3370.74] ChrisG: You fit right outside City Hall.
[3372.74] Jack: Yeah.
[3373.74] Jack: It's horrendous.
[3375.74] Tony: I think they just got a Y of it because it was just sort of a...
[3379.74] Tony: People just starting to do bellend things.
[3382.74] Jack: I think that's a chime up.
[3385.74] Jack: You've been listening to Let's Throw Now.
[3387.74] Jack: We are sponsored by our lovely eight young legal notice.
[3392.74] Jack: Any views expressed or any video shown are personal
[3395.74] Jack: and do not reflect them.
[3397.74] Jack: These are others.
[3400.74] Jack: We've been joined by my darling wife, Tony.
[3403.74] Jack: Bonjour.
[3405.74] Jack: And the FPV LDO fit wing expert, Christian.
[3410.74] Jack: Ellie.
[3411.74] Jack: And I've been brought inside fly.
[3413.74] Jack: Bye.
[3416.27] Jack: Telemetry lost.