=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 460 ===
Title: LDO 460 - Currys Back! With Tricopter Talk
Recorded: 2024-06-20
Hosts: Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Koel "Koala" Anderson, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 824
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTNWQNRBSx4); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1853456910-letsdroneout-ldo-460-currys-back-with-tricopter-talk.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons
[6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] Jack: we say.
[13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos!
[16.0] Frank: Art Faulkner!
[17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Frank: On with the show.
[20.68] Koel: Hello, and the trees are coming.
[21.68] Koel: Let's drone out now.
[51.79] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out.
[56.15] Jack: Tonight we are, once again, joined by the wonderful everyone's favourite Curry Kitten.
[63.35] Jack: Hello.
[64.35] Jack: Oh, it feels so good to say my darling wife, Tony.
[70.11] Jack: Bonjour.
[71.11] Jack: And my buddy, Carl.
[73.79] Jack: Howdy.
[75.99] Jack: And I am the host, but it's on the floor.
[79.95] Jack: Curry, how have you been?
[81.67] Jack: How is the wonderful world of game development treating you?
[86.59] Curry: It's quite hard work.
[88.99] Curry: And we get not very far using quite a lot of time.
[92.79] Curry: So my wife would say, will this be done soon?
[95.51] Curry: I'm like, no.
[96.51] UNKNOWN: Not at all.
[97.51] Curry: But I did get out using FPV stuff today, but not for flying.
[104.43] Curry: We did some FPV driving today.
[106.67] Koel: Nice.
[107.67] Koel: Ooh.
[108.67] Koel: And actually, I just looked back on the archives of Let's Drone Out.
[114.35] Koel: I think your last episode was the Christmas special, 2023.
[120.51] Curry: So how long ago?
[121.51] Koel: Yeah.
[122.51] Koel: It looks like five months, yeah.
[125.15] Curry: Christmas present to myself.
[126.55] Curry: Don't turn up for six months.
[128.55] Tony: It's quite nice when you do that, to be fair.
[132.99] Jack: Sometimes I'd be sure I could do it.
[136.95] Tony: Well, you did, but you were in hospital, but that was not your fault.
[141.39] Jack: Yeah.
[142.39] Jack: I know.
[143.39] Jack: Yeah, I'd love to go to the maker space somehow, but I don't know.
[155.03] Jack: I am a proud owner.
[159.59] Jack: I phoned Curry Kitten up and was like, I like what you're doing.
[165.83] Jack: I am a proud owner of a tricopter.
[169.99] Jack: Wow.
[170.99] Curry: Yours looks way more pro than mine.
[172.71] Curry: Have you got carbon fiber arms?
[174.91] Curry: Yes.
[175.91] Curry: Wow.
[176.91] Curry: Mine are wooden.
[177.91] Curry: Mine's proper old school.
[179.91] Jack: Look at that.
[180.91] Jack: Isn't that weird?
[182.43] Jack: Whoa.
[183.43] Jack: What?
[184.43] Curry: Is this like a proper digital server as well, not just some crappy plastic hobby king thing?
[189.75] Jack: Yes.
[190.75] Jack: It's a bluebird, but it is missing a resistor on the signal line.
[201.99] Jack: That's a capacitor, I think, actually.
[206.19] Jack: Well, it was on the inside.
[210.39] Jack: I accidentally knocked it off, but these are pocket rockets from the wonderful Radio C.
[219.27] Jack: I glued together the camera tray.
[223.91] Jack: That was horrible to do.
[225.83] Jack: I've been 3D printing in PTGE for the first time.
[237.11] Jack: I will admit, I ruined my smooth surface bed.
[243.55] Jack: No one told me that if you print PETG on that, you'll never get your print off and
[249.23] Jack: it just totally adhered to the surface.
[251.99] Jack: So I had to buy a new print plate, PC, I.
[257.07] Tony: Do you not spray hairspray on it and all that schmell art?
[262.51] Tony: Yes.
[263.51] Tony: That makes me sting more.
[264.51] Tony: I thought that was a thing that people did, spray hairspray on it.
[269.27] Jack: Yeah, there's hairspray, glue sticks, painted tape, all the way around.
[275.55] Curry: There you go.
[276.55] Curry: Caroline has the answer.
[278.03] Curry: Print that on glass.
[282.35] Jack: Makes sense.
[283.35] Jack: Is it a special kind of glass?
[285.15] Curry: And use hairspray.
[286.15] Curry: I would suggest you maybe just get one of those glass beds that the printer manufacturers
[291.79] Curry: sell.
[292.79] Curry: It'd be more fun if that sticks to it, then.
[295.67] Curry: You'll be just smashing it off the end.
[297.55] Curry: Don't worry about all the broken glass on.
[301.99] Curry: Has that got dampening wires as well?
[307.23] Curry: David Winnesdale's design.
[308.83] Jack: Yeah, yeah, it is totally.
[312.35] Curry: It's the clean and dirty phase.
[315.03] Jack: Yeah, yeah, you've got the little wire tray.
[319.59] Jack: Nice.
[320.59] Jack: So, yeah, I've got I need I need a GoPro.
[323.23] Jack: Has anyone got like a GoPro Hero 3 or 4?
[327.03] Jack: Because I don't or a spare GoPro I could borrow.
[333.47] Jack: It's got a Kakuta F4 and the wires it goes the power goes directly to the flight controller
[343.39] Jack: and then jankily I've got way too small a wire going back through to the PDB here.
[351.15] Jack: So I'm hoping because it's only a short run and it's the ones closest to the battery pads
[356.87] Jack: that enough current can be delivered.
[359.59] Jack: And this is just for clip cruising.
[363.15] Jack: Is it a 3S or 4S?
[368.19] Jack: No doubt it will probably disorder itself and fall out the sky.
[371.39] Tony: Have you got any big enough 4S packs to fly that?
[375.23] Tony: What should be your 4S?
[376.23] Jack: Yes, I've got a 4S 3000 that has been bought and it has probably flown once or twice.
[385.31] Jack: It was probably bought in the early like 2014, 2015 era and a push maybe 2016 flown
[398.35] Jack: put in storage and just left there.
[401.19] Jack: So the internal resistance is probably going to be dog shit.
[406.47] Jack: I'm flying tomorrow so I'm charging tonight so I'll be able to like take photos and speaking
[414.03] Jack: of which.
[415.03] Jack: I'm flying.
[416.03] Jack: I'm flying with the down I'm unsure probably HV.
[421.99] Koel: So what are you going to do?
[422.99] Koel: Are you going to bring the five inch and the tricopter?
[428.07] Jack: I don't know.
[429.07] Jack: I don't know whether I will bother with a with a five inch because like he's got he's
[436.43] Jack: got three or four batteries with you know the newest DJI thing.
[443.95] Jack: Oh I've got a two yeah nice he's going to film you mid mid-air.
[451.35] Jack: Well trouble is is I haven't even got FPV on this so yeah I might add that to it but
[460.71] Curry: like flying in my room.
[463.19] Curry: Tricopter's line of sight are harder than quads they're shakers stuff it just looks
[469.99] Curry: you turn it around you're like what am I looking at now?
[473.27] Curry: You know like tricoptics and sometimes just look like just an X from a distance.
[478.15] Curry: Tricopter's the same but just with a Y and you're so bloody quickly you're like which
[483.75] Curry: bit is moving?
[484.75] Curry: I don't know and then it crashes have like a different color that's the important thing
[488.27] Curry: to bring it home again.
[490.27] Curry: Have you got some sort of like one of those crappy all-in-one units you can just stick
[498.97] Curry: on there for now or something?
[500.47] Jack: Yeah it's like five oh.
[502.75] Curry: Hi Mr Bean.
[504.39] Curry: Just grab that out of the one of the five volt runs it'd be fine.
[508.83] Jack: I know yeah I do you know what I kind of agree with you I think that might be the best bet.
[515.63] Curry: Yeah I think it's better than trying to use it line of sight especially if it's a little
[520.51] Curry: bit if it's got the wobbles slightly as well.
[523.71] Jack: Oh yeah I'm probably I'm probably gonna hot glue that on or BHB and you know they do fly
[531.63] Curry: a bit different.
[532.99] Curry: We describe them as swooshy but I can't exactly remember exactly how a tricopter flies off
[538.43] Curry: the top of my head it'll take a little while to get used to it.
[540.71] Curry: Is it the same controls as a pod?
[543.91] Curry: Yeah but it's just because the yaw's got much more authority I think of a tricopter as like
[549.95] Curry: halfway between a quad and a plane so in the turns you can it's much more swooshy where
[555.91] Curry: a quad's very much much more precise.
[558.99] Curry: Think of it as drifting rather than turning I guess you might say.
[563.47] Koel: Yeah much wider turns I guess eh?
[566.87] Jack: I've literally been in some sort of weird hell because it's like trying to build something
[579.83] Jack: like this in 2024 you're going back to a design let me let me just demonstrate visually
[592.43] Jack: for you.
[593.43] Koel: Well Jack I was going to ask you in general when was the last time you flew anything?
[600.07] Jack: Like I don't know like last year but like for instance this is David's thing so we
[609.79] Jack: were going past the rocket knife which is six years ago then he made a baby mini tricopter
[621.11] Jack: and that was six slash seven years ago and then you go back the tricopter V4 build was
[631.11] Jack: seven years ago and my one is designed on the sort of in between the V3 and the V4 so
[644.19] Jack: no matter what you're looking eight and a half years ago to nine pretty much the one
[652.59] Jack: I actually built was the baby tricopter but it got sold to Dan so and the thing is is
[663.47] Jack: that no one's really worked on the triflight the tricopter firmware we've got better filtering
[671.35] Jack: so now like you know I'll show you what you know like footage you know like stuff hasn't
[680.99] Tony: really moved on what stuff yeah what you've been on there be a fly or triflight or what
[689.63] Jack: I phoned David up a while ago and I was like what do I put on this and the trouble is is
[697.79] Jack: that I've got an f4 board and as far as his stuff was released on it was all f3 so if
[706.35] Jack: you look at his like Kakuta that's an f3 board if you look at his tricopter boards that you know
[716.83] Jack: his tricopter the the newest frame thing the thing I'm holding that's f3 this one in my hand f1 but
[726.59] Jack: you see that sort of like wibbly sort of like side to side kind of thing that you kind of get in a
[732.19] Jack: wing that's the sort of that's what I'm expecting this was how long ago not move on I mean this
[740.59] Jack: this was eight years ago that's great you know no one's the thing is is like yes the the the tricopter
[749.55] Jack: code has moved the tricopter code hasn't moved on I don't have access to tail tune but the
[756.11] Jack: beta flight code has moved on so I've got things like notch filter and stuff like that but I
[762.03] Jack: believe because I was flying an f3 that was already there anyway well in beta flight like you can can
[770.11] Koel: you choose like a uh y is it a y is a y right I mean yeah a white copper normally has like four
[778.67] Curry: motors so it uses the two at the rear to do the yaw whereas the tricopter has a server this is this
[784.51] Curry: is the one I'm rebuilding this is 2012 vintage the 2.5 version with the dt750s wow and this is
[794.51] Curry: what I'm replacing we had a kk2 a fact shock 250 milliwatt big vtx we've got the other two of these
[807.23] Curry: broke actually this one just feels a bit dodgy so I have to try and find the the designs to
[811.79] Curry: reprint them in beautiful orange and my friend had this this main section he did which he printed
[820.03] Curry: and the bottom one broke so I've had to print one of those so they go together beautifully
[824.51] Curry: and of course we had the good old plush 18 amps which we've got rid of but yeah I have that that's
[831.23] Curry: my next project wire this all up and watch it watch it die the difference is I'm definitely
[836.91] Curry: going to kill mine because I'm like let's do acro on a big wooden tricopter and see what happens
[843.47] Curry: I think it's going to die and crash are you going to fb they're yours oh Jesus yeah I can't fly
[848.35] Curry: without it just might as well out of the window without it launch yeah I feel like you try to do
[855.95] Koel: one roll with that and if if things are not working out so good it could turn out very horribly
[862.91] Curry: oh yeah I think just just on the joints because all the joints are just held with this
[868.51] Curry: 3d printed bit and then they're sort of they're screwed in but they can like collapse and it's
[875.31] Curry: either going to collapse or it's just going to split off completely and then die but yeah
[881.95] Curry: that's why I say always take a bin bag flying a tricopter put it back yeah because it's just
[889.87] Jack: so weird because like you know it's like beat of flight has moved on and embarrassing
[898.43] Jack: and embarrassingly enough I because I hadn't used beat flight for so long oh my word I was
[908.59] Jack: well I was a bit sort of out of my depth like trying to set it to be a tricopter
[920.83] Curry: I uh I can find it well I might have to find the tips because I've only ever set a tricopter on
[928.27] Curry: a kk at a kk2 board and that is it no idea where it is on beat of flight or which if I've got a
[934.83] Curry: four-in-one board which I don't suppose it matters which um ESCs it uses it's not sure why them up to
[943.07] Jack: one two and three doesn't it yeah so for instance right the I've just opened beat of flight this
[953.95] Jack: this is let me let me just lay lay this flat so that people can enjoy the shape of said tricopter
[965.52] Jack: um yeah so you you know you go you go you go in there and originally it's it's a phone
[972.56] Jack: it's an x because it thinks everything is is a thing so I naturally went into configuration
[979.04] Jack: and I'm like where do I set it because now you compile you know you tell beat of flight
[986.4] Jack: what you're going to use to the point where I wasn't too sure whether my ESCs um could support
[995.28] Jack: d shot so I selected uh one shot one two five wow and it turns out that the capacitors had been
[1005.6] Jack: removed so I could use d shot so I had to rebuild it but they have moved it to the motors tab yeah
[1014.32] Jack: so you go to the motors and then you select instead of quad you select a tricopter so it's
[1022.88] Jack: there and that's the layout and then servo one uh is assigned to motor six on the cuckoo today
[1031.2] Jack: I don't have a motor six output so then you have to go into the CLI
[1035.68] Curry: all right resources my brain's already hurting so it's motor six just regular pwm so you can
[1046.7] Jack: just use a normal pwm servo if you want to well it's digital digital servo so to go resource
[1054.14] Jack: servo one and assign it to the led strip one and that's what I had to do so I had to watch
[1065.34] Jack: uh a video on how to do that it didn't explain it very well and then I basically had to go to the
[1071.9] Jack: the the resource map uh and just try and guess and I was like find a pin I'm not going to use
[1078.94] Jack: led strip find that and then assign it to that so you had to like remove it to none later on
[1086.22] Jack: I found a video of this guy explaining it and um explaining uh how to reverse your motor but yeah
[1096.22] Jack: it's it's bizarre like you know the receiver tab now has you know what you know what receiver
[1103.98] Jack: protocol you want that's a nice welcome change that makes sense that's been like that for a
[1109.82] Jack: while now really the mixer in motors I disagree with that should still be in configuration surely
[1120.37] Curry: why is motors in mixer don't know it's I suppose it's quite useful from the point of view that
[1126.85] Curry: if you've reversed your props so you've got uh altis instead of inis on it and you're testing
[1133.57] Curry: your motors you've got the visual representation when you do a test and you want to make sure
[1137.57] Jack: they're spinning right away and stuff and you can spin the ones you need up yeah okay I kind of see
[1143.41] Curry: it now I was I hadn't used it in anger for a while to do much setup but I was quite impressed
[1150.05] Curry: with the reorder motors thing because I basically in one of the builds ahead I forgot what it was
[1157.49] Curry: now I basically had to turn the ESC upside down for it to fit in and so all my motor wires
[1166.05] Curry: were going to the wrong inputs and you just say on be the flight reorder motors and it spins up
[1172.45] Curry: the motor and it says which motor was that and you tell it and it spins up all of them and then it
[1177.01] Curry: just reassigns them magically to all be the correct one so then you go and spin it normally
[1183.09] Curry: and all your motors reorder into like one two three four as they should be that's quite neat
[1187.73] Curry: yeah lovely I also had to do a bit of thinking because I was as I said I was out with this car
[1195.49] Curry: I was testing out this 10 watt vtx stupid vtx which is why I didn't want to take it in the air
[1200.61] Curry: pointless I could fly too far on 200 milliwatts I'm not going to get far enough on 10 watts but
[1206.45] Curry: I was I was using the MT12 the little car thing and I thought I know I'll just go into the menu
[1212.21] Curry: and swap it over on smart audio and then go again then I realized I didn't have any sticks
[1217.57] Curry: to do that but I then found out I could assign changing power dynamically to a rotary control
[1226.77] Curry: in this case so I just go along go zip it up from like one three five seven ten if I want to and
[1233.33] Curry: back down and that was my arming thing as well I never wanted um oh nice wow yeah I was running
[1242.69] Curry: my car on beta flight because I couldn't be asked to use anything else kind of weird how it's got
[1251.54] Jack: flight in the name but you're running your car on it yeah I don't have one problem in the configuration
[1258.1] Curry: no um if it was a quad no there is no car oh all I wanted to know is how far I went so I needed the
[1267.46] Curry: gps and like uh how far you've gone essentially I also needed the home area that didn't seem to
[1273.22] Curry: work and would always point a random direction which is bad when you get lost but um yeah I
[1278.66] Curry: had to turn off you know have you seen the thing if you like try and take off and your your quad
[1284.34] Curry: falls over it it gives that runaway uh error and and shut it shut it down so it automatically
[1291.14] Jack: powers off or or disarms what tas mode or um or are you talking about I don't know what's cool
[1299.7] Curry: but it sits on the screen runaway and it disarms so what would happen is I'd be driving along for
[1306.02] Curry: like five minutes and it would just say runaway I was like what I'm not I'm not in the air don't
[1313.3] Curry: worry but then I found out to disable that and that was all right but yeah that's my beta flight
[1318.42] Curry: car that's pretty funny none of the modes worked but seemed all right I've run away takeoff
[1329.06] Jack: oh what so it thinks that it's flying when it shouldn't be yeah I think normally I've had it
[1336.34] Curry: before because sometimes I've got like a little quad and I have to take up off off of a bag
[1341.94] Curry: and if it just slips over then it like fall over and the prop's still going it goes like runaway
[1347.46] Curry: and a disarm pretty good it's not a bad feature if you've got a quad not great if you're maybe
[1356.1] Tony: in a race and you fell off the box and then you were upside down and then you wanted to quickly
[1361.94] Curry: flip it back up and race you can still use turtle yeah you can still like disarm turtle
[1368.34] Curry: rearm do the thing so as long as you like disarm and rearm you're okay but it's it's kind of it
[1373.46] Curry: stops you it seems to stop like if the throttle's on and it's like I've fallen over I'm gonna I'm
[1378.58] Curry: gonna disarm because you're stupid and you haven't taken the throttle off as far as I can tell
[1385.7] Curry: I finally I just got that is that I'm the only one taking off off of a bag and keep falling off of
[1390.02] Koel: it it seems yeah I usually try to take off of like a box I have like a little transmitter box
[1396.58] Koel: and I'll take off from there but bags uh I guess depends like how round the bag is it's pretty
[1404.58] Curry: round that's why I keep slipping yeah yeah but it's that or it's mud or it's grass up to like
[1411.06] Curry: here so it's like what choice have I got here it's like throw it you like yeah hold it in your hand
[1415.78] Koel: and like yeah no that's not happening that's a bad uh bad idea for sure Cole literally looks like
[1424.66] Jack: he brings a shoe box with them it's very strange but yeah it works it's what I keep my transmitter
[1432.74] Koel: in and it's protected and it has the original like like when the transmitter comes in the box
[1437.54] Koel: you know like the little in what was that called like the little insert that it sits in it sits
[1443.3] Koel: all nicely well I found a box that that can sit in so now I can bring my transmitter you know
[1449.3] Curry: protected you don't have like what did you carry that quad in my quad yeah I just I just strap it
[1458.26] Koel: on a backpack I have like a van skateboarding backpack and uh it'll just has little straps
[1464.1] Koel: on the back I can just use but the but the radio doesn't go in the back that just goes in the box
[1470.26] Koel: well the radio so I can show you better than I can
[1472.98] Curry: this is fascinating I'm just confused it's like I've got a I've got a backpack but I don't put
[1481.54] Curry: the radio in it because I've got my shoe box for that like what the shoe box looks like it goes in
[1487.7] Koel: the bag oh if you'd have just said that I'd have been all right so we've got the red transmitter
[1493.3] Koel: box we've got the fat sharks and then that little brown one is my tools then at the back is my props
[1498.82] Koel: and I have a lipo bag that sits on top and then my quad gets uh just gets strapped in right here
[1506.9] Jack: that's fair enough I mean the amount of people that probably used to skate that use
[1511.78] Jack: the skate straps for drones it literally is a shoe box so it should be cut together and buy
[1516.98] Jack: them in like a transmitter bag or something I don't know like I don't know whether you can get
[1521.86] Koel: a tango to transmit a bag you know what though it is pretty small actually that it's not quite
[1526.9] Koel: as big as a shoe box it's um I don't have the dimensions yeah it's like it looks like a small
[1532.18] Koel: shoe box yeah yeah well actually so it's a box that I've uh the dorthy head from Taiwan
[1538.5] Koel: and that like I've had that same one since I started in the hobby and it was actually like
[1543.06] Koel: deep red when I first got it and now it's kind of like a fainted pink um salmon color and and
[1549.78] Koel: it's like falling apart I have to like tape it up because like the the box is just like disintegrating
[1553.7] Koel: but when we were in Taiwan this last time we went to the same store that she got it from however
[1558.74] Koel: many years ago found the same box in you know brand new condition but a brown one this time so
[1565.14] Jack: yeah so have you got a replacement I have a replacement tango two box yes I do
[1570.66] Jack: the trouble is having it color brown isn't very good for return to home
[1576.34] Jack: yeah because with that box you probably see that from quite far not with analog
[1583.38] Koel: no no I try to make sure that I kind of know where I am when I'm flying
[1588.9] Koel: and if it is a return to home scenario then I've got the arrow and the GPS for that so
[1594.66] Tony: I think there's a link by Carolyn to uh a tango to Harry case oh no way you know you do see those um
[1603.06] Koel: um you do see those guys um put out the huge like heli pads I think curry do you put that out
[1610.58] Koel: sometimes like your takeoff pad yeah yeah those seem like they'd be pretty handy they're pretty
[1616.26] Curry: handy because where I as I said where I fly it's either full of mud or full of very long grass
[1623.94] Curry: so that literally makes myself a position occasionally I can't even see it because the
[1629.46] Curry: oh jeez the the grass is so high I know I'm near myself but I can't see myself or the pad
[1635.78] Curry: until I get really close and then you have to sort of just dunk down on it but yeah that's that's
[1640.42] Curry: quite handy for me because um you don't want to land in the wet stuff or get tangled in the grass
[1645.22] Koel: so they're quite nice yeah and what I've found is like I used to think that they were just kind of
[1652.02] Koel: like um you know those like things you can put in your car to block the sun from your windshield
[1657.3] Koel: just like those thin sort of reflector type things I thought that that's all it was before
[1662.02] Koel: and then I saw one of them in person they're actually pretty hefty they're they're not very
[1666.34] Koel: light like the actual well at least the ones that I've seen they're they're more
[1671.06] Koel: they're more heavy duty than just like a thin piece of um fabric I guess well mine's pretty thin
[1678.42] Curry: corval sent me one it's one of those things that it's the pop-up things and you have to know how to
[1683.86] Curry: to get it back together but it's it's a really thin little thing it's just you just stake it
[1688.02] Curry: down the outside's a bit tougher so it won't disintegrate but it's it's fairly light it just
[1694.26] Curry: goes in the back of the back of the bag really along with my tarpaulin for putting my stuff on
[1701.06] Curry: because it's often wet and horrible yeah tarpaulin sheet and my landing bag that's what that's what
[1707.3] Koel: goes in the back yeah yeah I'm for me it's like well I always take off from my transmitter box
[1713.7] Koel: actually so I take off from that because depending well not always but if I have if I don't have a
[1718.66] Koel: clean environment that's what I'll do but yeah landing I don't usually set out a landing pad
[1723.94] Koel: so it's kind of like we'll need to land on it I have before but it is pretty small it is a it
[1730.18] Koel: is a small uh like I'll go into like the land and be I'll be like right on it but then I'll just
[1735.54] Koel: overshoot then the quad just like flips over the front and falls over so it's like yeah
[1742.34] Koel: actually I was flying the other day and I flew I was flying back to myself at like
[1747.14] Koel: pretty low battery and my my battery literally just like gave out within like it was like maybe
[1753.62] Koel: two meters away from me but I it was sagging so bad that it actually had no power anymore
[1759.22] Koel: it was the first time I've ever flown a battery that low and it just like flipped in the grass
[1764.02] Koel: in front of me I was like gosh I have to like pull all the grass out of it but I've never actually
[1770.9] Koel: flown a battery to the point where it's sagged so far that it just there's no throttle doesn't
[1774.98] Koel: do anything for it it's a weird feeling this episode was recorded in front of a live online
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[1803.7] Jack: slash let's drone out what's that jack oh that's a tilt tilt mechanism i'm trying to print spares
[1813.22] Jack: for when i inevitably smash this to pieces and it no nothing nothing i print quite the right size
[1822.66] Curry: it's always fun it's like print doesn't fit let's try scaling it up slightly yeah it's weird
[1835.22] Jack: i need to i've like bought new nozzles i've i think i need to like manually level my bed again
[1846.02] Jack: and then do another calibration because i've i've found like low and high spots so i've been doing
[1854.1] Jack: dumb like putting bits of tape on the bath to raise certain low spots up and stuff
[1864.98] Jack: oh caroline i need to i need to message you more on discord yeah that that tango tube bag looks
[1872.9] Koel: amazing actually like it would i would have no fear of putting anything there and it looks like
[1878.5] Koel: you can hold has a few little spots you can hold some because i in my box i do tend to hold like
[1885.06] Koel: my nd filters and like some extra like straps and little things like that so i might might have to
[1892.42] Curry: might have to look at that box but you just invested in an extra brown box now as well as
[1897.54] Koel: the red box i know i know hey man i i love my boxes you know you never have too many boxes
[1906.34] Jack: i know well it's because you got cats and they seem to be particularly fond of them
[1911.22] Koel: well yeah i we literally keep boxes around i'm surprised there's none in the background
[1915.78] Jack: right now just for the cast to jump in yeah yeah caroline i might need to borrow borrow you for
[1924.58] Jack: calibration tips of like sending me links on discord do this i own a karate ender s1
[1935.22] Jack: so and i know i've got to switch the hot end out because um like the ptf e tube's gonna
[1945.38] Jack: slowly start degrading from printing pt pt g pet g
[1953.3] Koel: wow sorry yeah i haven't gone down the 3d printing rabbit hole it's nor me it's not that
[1960.82] Curry: and i like the fact my one recalibrates herself on auto levels on like
[1965.22] Curry: 32 places and builds up a grid that's quite nice yeah you got a pretty fancy one right
[1974.42] Koel: i was gonna say curry i i think i remember you said you got a pretty fancy one a while ago right
[1979.14] Curry: yeah i mean it's it's only one of the karate s ender 3 new editions so it's not special
[1986.74] Curry: special it's just like a bit more up to date so it's got all the more fancy software and stuff
[1992.02] Curry: let's have a look at it it is where are we no not that way here it is it's out of there oh cool
[2001.3] Curry: all right and i've got the little um reality camera setup as well which detects
[2006.5] Curry: broken prints and stuff and records uh time lapses for me what what what happened to the
[2011.7] Jack: printer that was in an enclosure the white one it's currently in my wardrobe over there
[2018.66] Curry: oh is that the maybe that was the new one that was okay um it doesn't that one doesn't auto level
[2027.86] Curry: uh you have to manually calibrate it although it it's pretty good um the print area was smaller
[2036.26] Curry: it was like 175 cube so the the the other one's more like 220 or something but um if you put like
[2046.9] Curry: hyper pla in this it goes super quick which is quite scary to watch because sometimes it feels
[2051.14] Curry: like it's going to vibrate off the desk and stuff but it's quite good printing quite fast
[2056.1] Curry: but yeah i like the old one still it was quite reliable but uh yeah this one's better
[2064.14] Koel: i had another question for you curry what uh what song are you learning on the piano back there
[2069.98] Curry: we were learning the um the theme tune to succession if you've ever watched that show
[2075.58] Curry: it's got this particularly weird chord i haven't i haven't heard it uh well watch it that's quite
[2082.78] Curry: good okay it's it's over now but you can find it i think it was an hbo show so jack
[2089.98] Koel: jack's flying yeah jack you're flying this weekend tomorrow oh tomorrow yeah i went i
[2097.9] Jack: went flying i couldn't i i i went flying last last week um hang on let me uh i can't
[2109.34] Jack: oh it would mean trance uh transferring the video but uh from the gopro app
[2118.86] Jack: as you can see i'm having a
[2124.86] Koel: you're masturbating in a car dronly fans dronly fans so wait so you've been you've been enjoying
[2132.14] Koel: the avada too then and not flying your roots of analog yeah i know it's i mean it's it's so
[2140.86] Jack: intuitive and the fact is you don't have goggles strapped to your face they just gently rest on
[2148.3] Jack: your it feels weird because you're so used to having like this tight band around your head it
[2154.38] Jack: almost feels like it's a cross between wearing a very loosely fitting baseball cap and it feels
[2163.1] Jack: like the wind could like blow it off or fall off but it won't do that because obviously it's got
[2168.3] Jack: weighted goggles on there and it just gently sits on your face kind of like when you get teabagged
[2176.62] Jack: in a lobby so where isn't it banned in the u.s now i think they've just banned
[2184.14] Tony: dji stuff haven't they i'm pretty sure it's just i think it's just fast oh really fast yeah they're
[2191.5] Curry: banning all dji stuff well i'm pretty sure maybe it's a way of getting cheap spares then tony
[2201.02] Tony: um or very expensive yes this carol i was in a band yet i'm pretty sure i saw something
[2211.82] Koel: jack are you uh are you now uh a dji avada advocate have you drunk the kool-aid
[2219.18] Jack: like no it's not something i'd love but like i can definitely see the merits do you know what i mean
[2226.14] Jack: like there's there's not much to complain about that's cool you know and i know you're not gonna
[2232.94] Koel: fly it like a freestyle quad and hit up bandos and hit gaps and stuff with it so yeah it seems
[2238.94] Koel: like if you're not doing stupid stuff then it should be amazing yeah basically yeah i think
[2245.42] Curry: anyone can use it to do videos now really can't they yeah there's no any idea isn't there because
[2252.14] Curry: it's either like you know you carry on with the stuff you've got and you've built and you
[2257.74] Curry: you know you go through the faff of having to faff about with it and make it work and stuff or you
[2263.82] Curry: just like put a lot of money down and you have this thing that seems to fly pretty well and you
[2268.46] Koel: can just go and do stuff and not have to worry about it yeah although i i did watch there was
[2275.98] Koel: a video of a guy that i watched and he did an avada 2 range test and he was only um going
[2286.22] Koel: oh yeah i think the guy who he does a bunch of like long-range stuff uh all over the world or
[2291.18] Koel: whatever um i think what is his oh uh danny i think it's this danny mcgee guy let me see if i can find
[2300.46] Koel: i think it's that one but like jack you say that it flies good although i was like i was looking at
[2309.02] Koel: the dvr of it and it looks like it maybe doesn't fly good like the the stabilized footage of it
[2316.22] Koel: looks really good but i guess depending where you're flying it and how high you're flying
[2321.42] Jack: it is another the windy yeah i mean i flew it i flew it in high wind
[2330.3] Jack: i will admit and that's why i'm saying it it done pretty well for what it was i mean
[2337.26] Jack: usually you can fly like freestyle drone i believe if you go get the you know standalone
[2345.34] Jack: controller thing oh yeah i'm guessing oh you're just you're just using the the the wank yeah
[2352.86] Jack: huh yeah and you can also have you can also have head tracking as well so yeah that's cool to your
[2360.38] Jack: head but still continue to fly in a direction and you've got like the sort of double trigger so you
[2367.1] Jack: can click push back so it will slowly like creep backwards as well oh and you can do the uh have you
[2374.54] Koel: done the uh the the sweet tricks on a switch no you can do like i don't know so you can press a
[2383.5] Koel: button it'll do a roll you can press a button it'll do like a a look back like it'll be like you
[2388.3] Koel: you you know track a subject and then it'll do i think it's a front flip a roll and and the little
[2395.9] Koel: look back thing they put that in there yeah because they could because they could because think about
[2402.38] Koel: it everybody that doesn't do the hardcore fpv stuff they see the hardcore fpv stuff and they go
[2409.66] Koel: oh that's cool man the drone can flip and it can look back and it can roll and yada yada so it's
[2415.26] Koel: it's you know it makes sense for for the people that don't want to get too deep into it
[2419.98] Koel: they can do it but it's sort of uh slightly different but i honestly i'm i'm still like
[2429.76] Koel: kind of considering getting the avada too like it it seems really awesome but i do wish it was sub
[2436.4] Koel: 250 that would be a lot nicer if it was sub 250 but i guess then the maybe it wouldn't fly as good
[2441.6] Jack: or no or whatever but i suppose um uh some guy does the range test i see caroline's linked us
[2454.06] Jack: but yeah i mean yeah i reckon give it a while you know like the next one
[2462.54] Koel: oh yeah avada three should be really good yeah in like a year as soon as give it six months
[2470.54] Tony: or quickly before the band comes in they release it tomorrow
[2475.66] Jack: i mean that's the thing like dgi have got like iterations and stuff like that and it's not till
[2480.54] Jack: like it's not till they had like gopro and like other competitors make the big drone that they
[2487.02] Jack: all of a sudden come out with like the mavic that was like yeah it folds up if it's in your pocket
[2493.34] Jack: you know and i think they're sort of saving that sort of once the avada sort of becomes a capstone
[2502.7] Jack: and there's no more features to add i suppose then the only direction they can do is
[2508.38] Koel: yeah get it sub 250 smaller yeah almost like a avada mini avada mini might be kind of cool
[2516.14] Koel: but yeah it's it's something uh something i think about that's for sure one day yeah i think
[2526.38] Jack: i think there's a you know a real sort of like market of you know yeah people watching like the
[2535.18] Jack: hardcore fbv stuff like cole said and then wanting to just do that and if they can stick
[2543.9] Jack: it on a button and the drone can just do it for them and they can say hey i've done that
[2549.66] Jack: but it's not very rewarding and then you know they fly it a bit and then move on
[2556.22] Curry: yeah it's generally rewarding and i forgot to do it this time last time they
[2561.02] Curry: released the avada i went and found clips of people instantly crashing them into rivers
[2566.22] Curry: and stuff which i haven't looked at the avada to but i'd be most interested to see what people
[2571.42] Curry: try because it was that it was the thing where you kind of looked where you wanted to go
[2575.5] Curry: and then people sort of accidentally focused in on like oh is that like a post coming at me
[2580.54] Koel: yes it was because you didn't look away that's yeah yeah if you look if you look at the object
[2587.5] Koel: that you think you need to avoid no if you're looking at it you're going to hit it yeah that's
[2591.66] Jack: for sure yeah there's no it's where you're looking again is it target fixation i love that term
[2600.78] Curry: i think so all children do it when they're learning to ride a bike you can put a single
[2604.86] Curry: post in a massive field and that's straight into it and fall over yeah that's funny or sophie
[2611.58] Curry: growing up yeah so what's tony doing i heard about the x-class slight disaster from last week
[2619.18] Tony: they're flying anything else now i haven't done anything but i'll pack them away put it on the
[2624.38] Tony: wall put the other one in the cupboard and shut everything not happy camper yeah no i've got nowhere
[2635.1] Tony: to test it either so it's a bit of a bit of a that's always the problem i said this would be
[2641.82] Curry: the problem it's the availability of spaces especially for anything even over a five inch
[2648.14] Curry: can be difficult i i think i've done most of my flying recently on you know little two-inch
[2655.1] Curry: three-inch quads because i can just take them you know just the local woods fly around some trees
[2661.1] Koel: and have fun and nobody worries too much well you know what i was going to say uh and i think
[2668.3] Koel: i sent it to you in the chat before but i just i recently saw you put out that um was it the go
[2674.78] Koel: go to or something drone go film the go film 20 from kaddox that that drone and the footage and
[2682.46] Koel: the quality that comes out of it that looks like it'd be a lot of fun actually yeah i was pretty
[2687.5] Curry: happy with that because it did it did fly like a bigger quad because because it was small but
[2694.46] Curry: 4s powered i think yeah a decent turn of speed and the footage you get out of it can be
[2703.18] Curry: without too much hassle for a change in gyro flow which i always hated comes out quite nice
[2709.42] Curry: those little wobbles have gone and uh so the resulting footage is good and you can pretty much
[2714.22] Curry: fly anywhere because it's it's a two-inch quad all that as i found you can you can draw blood
[2719.74] Curry: it it can kill one's can kill legs yeah i saw that what you have for that have you healed up now
[2729.74] Jack: in anything else or are we talking just ldo chat you are um the that's going to your legs
[2739.02] Curry: oh no it was on his video no no it's on the video we we have we have to show the damage
[2743.98] Curry: these crazy killer machines can do yeah but although i would just suggest don't fly into
[2748.94] Curry: yourself if you're wearing shorts as a general rule of thumb and it's not like it was the props
[2755.5] Koel: that got you right it's just the hard plastic ducks i guess or the the guards it was and i
[2761.82] Curry: think i said in the video i reckon these are like uh injection molded in like a sort of grid of many
[2768.54] Curry: of them and they've got these bits where they sort of snap away and that's it is like rough
[2773.42] Curry: just so each of the edges of the guards they've got this rough bit so if that scrapes along
[2778.3] Curry: that can that can cut into you which i think is what happened yeah i want the hover hover x one
[2787.02] Tony: is it the one that you unfold out of your pocket just go like that and then it takes off i got i
[2793.26] Curry: got a note from them saying do you want to review this i was like yeah because it looked like
[2797.5] Curry: something that's good for filming yourself oh yeah you just put it in front of you and you can
[2801.98] Curry: you can talk on your phone and it will take the the noise out and stuff but they never they never
[2807.74] Curry: followed through on it she looks it's more of like a little vlogging extension that one
[2813.5] Tony: yeah i just think it'd be cool for when i'll get to epic spots on my mountain bike i can just yeah
[2818.94] Curry: just have it follow you along we'll do a thing around you i like the fact there's no controller
[2823.66] Tony: for it you just like film me yeah i do i like that but it's kind of like the skydio though
[2829.9] Koel: yeah the skydios are really really good for tracking i guess um i don't make them anymore
[2835.9] Curry: oh do they not i don't think so they were they were big money though and the stuff they had out
[2840.38] Tony: was like experimental yeah they were quite big but this this little one looks pretty good it's
[2847.18] Tony: only got downward sensors and then it uses ai through the camera to dodge things hmm that's
[2853.1] Tony: pretty cool and it looks quite crash proof but i'll just like oh it's only 2.3k or whatever
[2861.26] Tony: so i might wait for the four to come out i'm sure they'll bring out i think you can only do
[2866.86] Curry: 10 minutes flying yeah i think the idea is film me come back and i'll ride off again and then
[2875.42] Curry: film me a bit more sort of thing rather than like yeah i'm going on an epic flight which would be
[2880.06] Koel: like you just film me walking 10k get up actually i can show um i'll show you guys uh
[2892.3] Koel: my i was flying the other day around sunset and i was trying i was trying to determine
[2898.78] Koel: if i could feel a difference between crossfire v2 and crossfire v3 um and this is also after
[2905.02] Koel: i realized i was missing two screws on the bottom of my quad um so i wanted to make sure
[2910.06] Koel: that my quad was you know still flying well um because i was noticing wobbles i was i was trying
[2916.46] Koel: no stabilization i was noticing wobbles and i was like oh well i guess i'm probably missing some
[2921.1] Koel: screws um but so there's this little it looks like a sort of is this the uh session no no this is
[2932.06] Koel: the this is actually the here this is the 11 11 minis sorry looks amazing but i can show you
[2938.3] Koel: from the session dude the session still looks really good i i was just flying the other day
[2942.86] Koel: i'll actually i'll let me pull it up because the session like okay i'm gonna stop sharing i'm gonna
[2949.98] Koel: find that footage and you will be very surprised i was even surprised the session footage still
[2955.98] Koel: holds up today man uh the 2.7k i still feel like is enough um let me let me get it here quickly
[2964.86] Koel: just give me let's see it looks quite soft i don't know man i don't know
[2973.74] Tony: well i use it i still use it yeah maybe share them settings for me i use it for my
[2981.42] Tony: head cam for airsoft so i've got two hero five sessions and i use them for that
[2989.18] Tony: and i always think i upscale it to 4k and always think it's just me just doesn't look
[2995.82] Tony: great because if i record in 4k on that session it overheats it gets just a big misty spot because
[3004.14] Tony: it's on my head as well and i'm sweating and it just overheats isn't that the problem with all
[3007.82] Curry: gopros now i've virtually given up on mine i've tried to use mine today and it lasted for
[3014.54] Curry: like 20 seconds it says battery fall and then said 14 seconds later the battery empty is like
[3019.5] Curry: come on and then it's like you do film in 4k that overheats as well that is so weird because i film
[3026.78] Koel: with my um with the hero 11 mini i shoot in 5.3k and i'm i mean knock on wood but i've never had
[3034.46] Koel: an overheating fiasco ever i never even knew that you've got a little bit more airflow going on with
[3042.46] Tony: i guess so yeah yeah it's not straight up to your sweaty head yeah plus 4k
[3055.68] Tony: yeah the battery like last an hour's game anyway so i have to shoot it i'm liking my insta 360
[3062.32] Curry: these days but they're a bit they're not as easy to wear there's another one out now yeah they've
[3069.68] Curry: just released the go go three or go two i can't remember but that's a little yeah yeah they do
[3077.76] Koel: look really cool and i guess you can swap out the lenses on yeah it's going to be big money though
[3083.76] Koel: that's the only thing we've insta yeah and especially for a quad you wouldn't want it on
[3088.48] Curry: a freestyle quad that's no i mean you run as much damage as uh much risk as smashing up a
[3098.46] Curry: regular gopro of course but yes that's it i think they're cool though because you can
[3106.75] Tony: they're that small that you can put them in different places you could you could do a pretty
[3111.07] Tony: cool mountain bike video with having one on your shoelaces where you're pedaling and stuff there's
[3115.87] Tony: so many different places you could put them on the bike rather than a big something like this you
[3121.47] Tony: just have to mount this on something and just get different shots from something small like that
[3127.47] Curry: yeah which is which is why i like the my my uh insta 360 x3 which i feel in 360 is like well as
[3135.31] Curry: long as you're there and i'm here i can just change the angles later for what i want and stuff
[3142.67] Koel: yeah true that is pretty that is a really cool feature actually just being like not even having
[3148.51] Koel: to mess around and like you can just switch it up as you go yeah but that is more as a sort of
[3153.87] Curry: what i like in an action camera than something i'd mount on a quad where the heck is the one
[3160.19] Koel: sd card that i'm looking for i thought i had it backed up and it's it'll be in it'll be in the
[3166.59] Koel: session let's check because the session is right here and nope it is not
[3175.47] Koel: uh i i was i was actually like panic there's a list of things you do as soon as you get back
[3182.03] Curry: put batteries on storage take all sd cards on transfer footage over figure out what to do with
[3187.39] Jack: it and you've lost your SD card management i mean it was his job for a while
[3193.95] Koel: it's it's my never-ending past his job no longer and it shows
[3197.87] Jack: hey now he's going to be heavily relying on that icloud for everything
[3203.71] Jack: i'm gonna stop throws and just use an iphone yeah it's with the the discount it'll probably work
[3213.71] Koel: out cheaper yeah i have no idea what you're talking about so uh i'm gonna pull up my hero
[3219.47] Koel: five session card here um check this out this might even be a clip where i almost
[3227.23] Koel: look at the grass yeah look at that it's sharp dude oh no tony's obsession with grass hasn't
[3233.71] Koel: finished and this is this is 2.7k um have you upscaled it no this is just off the sd card
[3243.47] Koel: it's probably because it was a nice sunny day well i can show you from from later on i mean
[3249.47] Koel: and it's it's really smooth and it's this was actually when i had the two screws missing too
[3255.63] Koel: um there is a really scary part i think it will be in this clip uh where oh nope not going for
[3262.83] Koel: the dive there yeah let me see i want to see if i can find this really did i show this to you guys
[3270.27] Koel: on stream before already though right right almost uh i think it's this one is it is it oh yes oh my
[3278.19] Koel: gosh dude i don't know nothing happened it's all good well i know but jesus christ yeah i don't
[3289.71] Koel: care nothing happened it's totally fine so beautiful hero five session footage flying analog
[3295.71] Koel: do you not have my walls um yeah i had two freaking i had two spotters that uh you know decided to like
[3302.99] Koel: not say anything but so going in for the little tree dive and then oh there's a human right there
[3311.15] Koel: like dude i was so close to changing her face that was that was scary and i started yelling
[3318.27] Koel: at the guys i'm like guys you didn't tell me anything but luckily she didn't look like she
[3323.95] Koel: saw or hers like she had no if anything all she saw all she heard was a flying weed whacker go
[3330.59] Tony: by and she went about her days all good um you said if you'd done that to me that was too close
[3339.87] Koel: bro yeah no i honestly like i felt like a complete dick after that and i and i yelled at the guys i
[3345.31] Koel: was like guys you're supposed to like you know warn me for this stuff but yeah i mean definitely
[3349.31] Koel: their fault i mean back to the the footage topic though i mean 2.7k hero five session sharp as hell
[3356.43] Koel: man it looks and especially if you're watching on a phone it looks really good to me i mean i
[3362.99] Koel: might even go back to using it for um if i'm gonna fly in bandos and stuff so i don't smash
[3367.47] Koel: up the hero 11 mini yeah that's better than you don't remember literally like it's so good dude
[3376.67] Koel: look at it okay hold on i i have i'll try to pull up another uh clip from this day this was
[3382.35] Koel: actually a pretty fun one i know we're kind of getting pressed for time so i'm gonna do is it
[3388.59] Tony: cloudy when it was cloudy yeah i'll show you when it's cloudy yeah yeah if you're listening to this
[3394.27] Jack: audibly we are on a thursday so you can yeah all right i recommend so this is actually this
[3403.15] Koel: this is the same day um this is the same day but later on and uh i mean where are you flying
[3412.35] Koel: i am flying at a construction site at a crane and it's very windy actually and i'm and i'm trying
[3418.99] Koel: to figure out if i can do my maddie flips because i've kind of recently figured out how to do maddie
[3423.79] Koel: flips okay that one was a fail but let's let me get lined up for the real deal okay here we go
[3431.71] Koel: so hero five session 2.7k i mean i think it looks pretty great i would honestly in a lot of ways
[3442.21] Koel: say it looks better than some of the stuff that comes off the 03 like it doesn't look overly
[3449.01] Koel: sharpened it doesn't look um i don't know i i think it looks good i don't know what you guys think but
[3457.41] Jack: caroline's apparently using her session five as a hack can
[3465.25] Koel: there's us as hard workers on the construction site on the weekend you know uh during the overtime
[3472.21] Koel: yeah double time gotta gotta do these uh these crane surveys uh but yeah i mean i i still think
[3481.25] Koel: that the the five session is more than usable i think any camera made in the last you know
[3489.25] Koel: i don't know five plus five to ten i would say within the last like five to six years
[3494.93] Tony: any of the cameras are pretty good i think that my sessions are about eight years old yep
[3502.37] Jack: i'm glad i've got a knife oh yeah that's all we got time for curry was it nice being back
[3511.17] Curry: is it like you never lie kinder lie tell us you loved it
[3520.21] Jack: anyway uh you've been listening to electro drone out uh we are supported and sponsored by our
[3527.25] Jack: lovely patreons who are scrolling along down below if you do want to help out and support us
[3534.61] Jack: you can get your name read out the beginning yeah one of our supreme patreons and uh i know
[3544.61] Jack: and uh yeah get into all the bonus info and invite along to any events that prank may or
[3551.57] Jack: may not organize uh we've been joined by everyone's favorite curry kitten goodbye
[3558.21] Jack: uh my darling wife tony bonjour uh my buddy cole see ya and i've been brought until i fly
[3567.65] UNKNOWN: thank you good night bye good night telemetry lost