=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 472 ===
Title: LDO 472 - There Was A Show (of Sorts)
Recorded: 2024-09-12
Hosts: Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Clive Easton
Total audience: 845
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZT6vh1I6dg); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1915675016-letsdroneout-ldo-472-there-was-a-show-of-sorts.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons
[6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] Jack: we say.
[13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos!
[16.12] Frank: Art Faulkner.
[17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Frank: On with the show.
[20.68] Jack: Hello and welcome, you're listening to Let's Drone Out, there is actually a show but it's
[57.1] Jack: barely one.
[58.1] Jack: Tony's got to leave, I don't know, about 45 minutes going out on a date or something
[65.62] Jack: with a lady called Denise.
[67.46] Jack: This is close to me.
[71.34] Jack: Yeah, I know, I'm joking.
[75.18] Jack: Yes, tonight we are joined by the usual listener who has to put up with this crap, Clive FBV,
[83.06] Jack: you're our guest tonight.
[86.14] Jack: And my darling wife, Tony, and I'm your host right until I fly.
[94.06] Jack: Frank's left the country, Steven's, I don't know, on his honeymoon or something,
[101.74] Jack: Curry, I don't even know, Curry can't be bothered, and I think Cole's at an air show,
[110.46] Jack: I'm not too sure.
[111.86] Jack: Everyone's too busy.
[112.86] Tony: I know.
[113.86] Jack: But Cole's in the chat.
[118.42] Jack: So this week, Clive flew and raced at the BDRA, the chance this year, yeah.
[129.42] Jack: Yes.
[130.42] Jack: How well did you do?
[132.42] Clive: 48 out of 50.
[135.42] Tony: No!
[136.42] Tony: Well, at least she went and did you have fun?
[140.62] Tony: Yeah, it was really good fun, yeah.
[142.62] Tony: Well, there you go.
[144.38] Tony: That's what it's all about, innit?
[145.38] Jack: Was it a technical issue, or were you just?
[150.1] Clive: Some of it's skill, but some of it, my regulator on my power, my goggles gave up on day one,
[157.9] Clive: so I spent a while trying to work out what the problem was, broke my, like literally
[163.78] Clive: taking my goggles apart in a marquee, trying to work out what was wrong, borrowed the person
[169.34] Clive: I was racing against through qualifying spare goggles, and yeah, we worked it out, it was
[174.34] Clive: the power cable, and a friend let me have a power cable for day two, so.
[178.34] Jack: Oh, God.
[179.34] Jack: I don't know.
[180.34] Jack: Typical.
[181.34] Jack: What was it?
[182.34] Tony: We went to the first ever, ever, ever one, didn't we, Jack?
[189.1] Jack: Yes, we did.
[190.82] Jack: Was that you racing on your own, or was that, was I racing as well?
[196.22] Tony: No, you didn't.
[197.42] Tony: You were running a stall.
[199.18] Jack: Yeah, I was with, uh, Babbie.
[201.82] Tony: Ban, Banning was about that high.
[205.06] Jack: I know.
[206.06] Jack: I know it's really low, because Todie's not only short, but he's also sat down.
[212.14] Tony: So, oh bloody hell.
[214.14] Tony: So, how long ago was that, that was 10 years ago, probably, more, maybe?
[222.66] Jack: 2015, I think.
[223.66] Tony: Was it?
[224.66] Jack: No, it's not that high.
[225.66] Tony: I wonder what changed.
[227.42] Tony: I remember it was just being a big, long, left-handed course, which I quite liked.
[233.54] Tony: I bet the weather didn't change, because I think that was in September, wasn't it?
[236.74] Tony: And it was crap.
[237.74] Tony: What was your weather like, Clive?
[240.46] Clive: It was wet, like, really sort of misty rain on the first day for, like, most of the morning.
[246.86] Clive: Rained overnight, um, rain first thing on the morning, Sunday, and it was really hot
[252.66] Clive: and sunny for the rest of the day on Sunday.
[255.22] Tony: It was weird.
[256.22] Tony: Why don't they just finish up doing it on a July or something?
[260.78] Clive: Well, the season's short enough as it is, isn't it?
[263.82] Clive: So, you've got to think, the UK weather's not great, but, uh...
[266.98] Clive: No.
[267.98] Jack: No.
[268.98] Jack: Yeah.
[269.98] Jack: Yeah, because you like it or not, you have to have it at the end of the season, so that
[275.06] Jack: everyone's done as many races as possible to weed out.
[280.3] Jack: Well, well done.
[282.3] Clive: I was going to say, it was also the space at Buckminster as well, BMFA Buckminster.
[286.22] Clive: It's when they've got a free weekend that you can fit into as well.
[290.22] Clive: Oh, yeah.
[292.22] Jack: Yeah.
[293.22] Jack: And we're low on the pecking order, because we ruined the hobby for them, everyone.
[297.22] Tony: Not just me and you.
[300.22] Jack: Well, no.
[301.22] Jack: Just drone users in general.
[304.22] Jack: You doing Gatwick didn't help.
[308.14] Jack: And the facilitating building your drone that can fly at night in high winds and is completely
[315.14] Jack: waterproof.
[316.14] Jack: I don't know how I managed that.
[318.5] Jack: I don't know how you managed to fly it and be on a lecture and out show at the same time.
[323.14] Tony: I know, that's crazy.
[324.14] Jack: But Tony did Gatwick.
[326.14] Tony: Yeah, that's what T-shirt says.
[329.14] Jack: Well, Clive, you didn't finish last and your goggles are still working.
[334.14] Jack: Bonus.
[336.06] Clive: Well, they are now.
[337.06] Clive: We're about to make a new power cable.
[340.06] Jack: I know.
[341.06] Jack: They're terrible.
[342.06] Jack: What are you running?
[343.06] Jack: Fat Sharks?
[344.06] Clive: Yeah.
[345.06] Clive: Fat Sharks HDO2s with the HD0 module on the front.
[350.06] Jack: Ah, OK.
[352.06] Jack: Ooh, so you're running HD0.
[355.06] Jack: Nice.
[356.06] Jack: How are you finding it?
[358.06] Clive: Good.
[359.06] Clive: Yeah.
[360.06] Clive: It's better than analog.
[361.06] Clive: Yeah, definitely.
[362.06] Jack: Better than analog.
[363.86] Jack: You heard it here first.
[365.58] Jack: The words of a traitor.
[367.74] Jack: That's it.
[369.94] Jack: The cause.
[370.94] Jack: Analog was there for you at the beginning.
[373.3] Tony: Well, yeah.
[374.3] Tony: It was there for everyone, Jack.
[377.3] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[378.3] Jack: I know.
[379.3] Jack: We wouldn't be here with that, analog.
[382.3] Tony: No.
[383.3] Tony: It's people still swear by it.
[385.74] Tony: Yeah, I'm still 50-50 on my stuff.
[390.66] Tony: I would like the O3 goggles, but I heard they've got a problem as well.
[394.78] Tony: But I think there's an update or something.
[399.42] Tony: People just kept getting black screens off their FBV and that's it.
[404.9] Jack: It's nice to finally have you on the show, Clive, because we've been threatening to get
[409.58] Jack: you on here and there, but you had some sort of weird bird sanctuary or something at one
[417.3] Jack: point.
[418.3] Jack: And it was almost impossible to talk to you.
[420.98] Jack: I mean, you are a white Doctor Doolittle.
[424.5] Clive: No, that's my wife, not me.
[428.34] Jack: Okay.
[429.34] Jack: And Clive repping in the background, he's got an Ender-3 set up.
[435.5] Clive: And the X-Class on the wall.
[437.5] Clive: Yeah, my three-armed X-Class, yeah.
[439.98] Clive: Oh, is it down to three?
[442.06] Jack: Yeah, with no parts.
[444.06] Jack: There's no motors on there either, is there?
[446.78] Clive: No, there's nothing on there at the moment.
[449.7] Clive: It is bad.
[450.7] Clive: Oh, strict.
[451.7] Clive: So, yeah, currently strict, waiting for a new frame.
[455.7] Clive: Oh, it's super glued on, it would literally fall off.
[461.9] Tony: Is Fossil sending you some stuff?
[463.98] Clive: Yeah, just waiting for it, so wait for it to sort out.
[469.7] Clive: Nice.
[470.7] Tony: I've done anything with mine.
[474.34] Clive: The newest thing is, obviously, Martin's come out with braces for a racing one.
[479.06] Clive: Oh, I see.
[480.06] Clive: Is that the smokey?
[481.06] Clive: Stiffing the frame up.
[482.06] Clive: Yes, it is, yeah.
[483.06] Clive: Oh, that is quite a pull.
[488.6] Jack: He loves his washing lines, old Fossil.
[492.2] Clive: Yeah, so, I'm seeing a six mil carbon, just takes any flex out of the arms, so.
[503.12] Clive: Did it have much?
[505.6] Clive: You get a little, I think, just from wear and tear, they eventually get a little bit
[508.88] Clive: of flex in the arms, so it just gets rid of all of it, so.
[512.92] Jack: The lamination.
[513.92] Tony: Does it feel much stiffer and harder to fly, or better to fly, or?
[519.88] Clive: Yes, there's definitely difference, yeah, with having those braces on.
[523.84] Clive: Just feel a bit tighter and locked in, yeah.
[526.88] Tony: Yeah, nice.
[527.88] Tony: This is my new drone.
[529.4] Tony: Look at that little thing.
[534.81] Clive: Too much money, Tony.
[536.53] Tony: It was 170 quid.
[540.37] Tony: I only bought it on its own.
[541.93] Tony: I didn't bother buying the fly more.
[543.93] Jack: So, you can see what it is.
[545.69] Tony: DJI Neo, sorry, for listeners.
[549.85] Tony: Look at it, it's the size of my face.
[553.97] Tony: It's tiny.
[554.97] Tony: It's bigger.
[555.97] Tony: It's brilliant.
[556.97] Tony: Well, I think it's pretty good, anyway.
[558.65] Tony: I've only tested it a few days.
[560.85] Tony: It's been charged five times.
[562.29] Tony: The claimed 17-minute flight time is completely not a bomb crap.
[567.93] Tony: I think that's claimed without popguards on, and inside with no wind whatsoever, and running
[575.81] Tony: the battery to zero.
[577.97] Tony: But I've only been getting seven minutes at the most, which is pathetic, but enough to
[587.21] Tony: do what it's supposed to do, which is social media crap.
[591.33] Jack: How does it do the no-prop noise?
[596.65] Tony: I don't know.
[597.65] Tony: Very good, a bit of tech in there.
[599.69] Tony: I do like that.
[600.69] Jack: Is it using your phone?
[601.69] Tony: Yeah, it's using the phone as a mic, so some software to just listen to you and cut the
[610.1] Tony: noise of the drone.
[612.14] Jack: So I'm guessing it's using the phone's microphone with the phone's noise cancelling, and then
[619.26] Jack: sending the audio to the drone, and putting the video and audio together.
[625.58] Jack: What are the files like?
[628.58] Tony: There's no memory nodes, it's built in memory of 22 gigs.
[635.9] Tony: You don't even have to have it on to transfer files, which is another good thing.
[639.5] Tony: You can just plug a Type-C to Type-C into your phone, and it will bring up files straight
[648.74] Tony: away, or you can just plug it straight into the computer, you don't even have to turn
[651.98] Tony: it on.
[652.98] Tony: It has got GPS in this little thing as well, and then two little eyes to look down.
[661.34] Tony: One-axis gimbal, but it uses their AI tech to stop the other axis, you know, and they've
[667.1] Tony: got in there.
[668.1] Tony: What do you call it?
[669.1] Tony: Cameras.
[670.1] Tony: They're sport cameras or whatever they're called.
[671.1] Tony: Like a GoPro, but not a GoPro.
[672.1] Tony: I don't know because I don't use them, but I only use GoPro, but I'm thinking about swapping
[682.1] Tony: because GoPro, I don't know, I still like my little ones for air-softing and stuff.
[691.98] Jack: Yeah, but they're not making them anymore.
[695.66] Tony: They're not, they don't, and these batteries are still pretty good in here, and they still
[701.1] Tony: will do, I'm shooting 2.3K at airsoft because it gets too hot, because it's strapped to
[708.9] Tony: the air, and I'm running around, it gets boiling, I've shot in 4K before, and I get missed behind
[715.02] Tony: the screen, or it cuts out because it gets too hot.
[719.14] Tony: So I've had to put it down to 2.3K to shoot, and it will still do an hour's filming.
[726.1] Tony: So there's still pretty good battery in there, much better than this Hero 10.
[731.7] Tony: It's battery on there is rubbish, absolutely rubbish.
[736.58] Jack: Yeah, plus all the GoPros are just getting bigger, heavier, weightier beasts.
[745.66] Jack: Clive, have you, what's the last GoPro you've bought?
[750.38] Jack: Seven black.
[752.9] Tony: Yeah, I've got seven as well.
[754.62] Jack: Yeah, with the gyro, so it doesn't work with gyro flow.
[759.86] Jack: Or have they fixed that now? I don't know.
[763.26] Clive: I just use HyperSmooth.
[765.78] Tony: Yeah, I think I use this on my drones, the seven.
[774.02] Tony: I don't, I use a 10 for camping, vlogging, sort of stuff, and mountain biking because the
[780.9] Tony: anti-shape thing on there, the HyperSmooth is really good.
[785.3] Tony: But I'm impressed with this, pretty good.
[788.74] Tony: I don't know if you've seen any of my videos, I've put a couple on YouTube,
[793.46] Tony: of it following me on my mountain bike and stuff.
[796.42] Tony: It does a really good job for having no sensors on the front or anything like that.
[803.54] Tony: It just literally follows your path as close as it can, and that's how it doesn't hit anything.
[810.18] Tony: Obviously, if you rode into a wall, it would, you know, do exactly the same.
[814.58] Tony: It's what you've done, but I think that's how it's working.
[818.26] Tony: But because I haven't got the flymaw package, I can't connect it to a controller or a screen,
[828.74] Tony: like my phone screen.
[829.86] Tony: It does connect to my phone, as in you can connect it, just go and it'll fly off.
[835.94] Tony: But I haven't got any camera controls because I'd like to lower, I don't know if the colour
[844.58] Tony: saturations, you can change that, but I'd like to take the sharpness down a couple of notches
[850.74] Tony: because I think it's over sharpened the image.
[854.02] Tony: But to be fair, on my 55-inch TV, it doesn't look too bad playing back in 4K.
[861.06] Tony: Not brilliant, but it's not really meant for that.
[864.74] Tony: It's sort of meant for, I think, Instagram and quick shots and shots and things like that.
[872.1] Jack: Can you use an older DJI?
[875.78] Tony: There's three controllers that work with it, and my Mini 2 does not work with it.
[883.62] Tony: It's Mini 3, I think it's RC controller, two points, I mean, and
[892.18] Tony: yeah, not the one that I've got, which is annoying, but for the price, I was just like,
[901.06] Tony: yeah, sold it, I'm going to get it.
[902.98] Tony: Because all I want it for is when I'm out riding or on holiday or something like that,
[907.86] Tony: even though I haven't had a holiday for a few years, excuse me, kayaking, anything like that,
[913.86] Tony: just take off from your hand.
[915.54] Tony: You don't even need your phone, you can turn it on, and then there's a button on the top
[921.54] Tony: and you just go through the different things, droney, follow, all that shimlarky, and then just take off.
[931.94] Tony: It's a cool little bit of kit, if you ask me, and I'm enjoying mucking around with it.
[938.9] Tony: And it was in the wind on my last video, going up, mountain biking, going up a incline,
[947.14] Tony: and it was fighting the wind pretty well.
[949.7] Tony: It was a bit leaning over, but footage weren't too bad.
[955.14] Jack: I'm just slightly concerned of your riding along, thinking this thing's following you,
[961.3] Jack: and then one day something goes wrong, bit of gross branch, bit of really bad wind.
[967.94] Tony: You can hear it behind you, it's quite loud, you can imagine the size of the props on it,
[972.1] Tony: it's like, it's really quite loud, so you're not going to not hear it behind you.
[978.58] Tony: You'll hear it if it falls off, if you know, if it hits the branch, you can probably,
[982.9] Tony: you'll hear that, definitely hear it.
[986.34] Jack: I'm waiting for it to not happen, and it's like, I don't know where it was,
[991.86] Jack: riding back and forth, and there's a pry hole, trying to see the last bit of video that it sent.
[1000.18] Clive: Yeah.
[1000.5] Jack: I suppose it doesn't DVR to your phone, does it?
[1003.86] Clive: No.
[1005.3] Clive: Just train Cocoa to go and get it.
[1007.86] Tony: Yeah, sniff it out.
[1010.26] Tony: Beck it, yeah.
[1012.34] Tony: Yeah, I'm quite enjoying the thing, but I need to buy another battery for it,
[1018.98] Tony: I think one more battery and that will do, I think they're like 35 quid or something,
[1023.86] Tony: not too bad, but it's only a little 2S thing, but 135 grams, it's scarily light,
[1032.5] Tony: it's a bit, that's a bit light as in, it could blow away like they said.
[1038.66] Tony: There's Littlen, but yeah, it's good.
[1048.86] Tony: I'm even thinking about getting a microphone to plug in the bottom of the phone,
[1054.54] Tony: so when I'm flying that, I can speak with it there, with a mic there.
[1060.06] Jack: What, a little road one or the DJI version?
[1063.9] Tony: Well, the DJI ones are so expensive, I found pretty good one, 15.99 or something ridiculous
[1069.26] Tony: on there, wasn't it?
[1071.66] Jack: She's definitely good.
[1076.0] Tony: I don't know.
[1077.36] Tony: I'll give it a go and if it's rubbish, you throw it back at Amazon, can't you?
[1082.24] Jack: Yeah, I suppose, yeah.
[1084.4] Tony: They look quite good.
[1086.0] Tony: I've looked at them on YouTube and they don't look too bad.
[1091.28] Jack: Right.
[1092.26] Jack: So, I, this week, last weekend, I went to Poppin.
[1100.98] Tony: I know, I saw photos of you out in the wild, I couldn't believe it.
[1105.86] Jack: I know, I, yeah, I mean, I'd done a bit of line of sight, like hovering or, you know,
[1115.56] Jack: something or other and,
[1118.84] Jack: and, oh, mate, I've just got, I've just got totally screwed.
[1126.2] Jack: I got, Frank shared a link for the Google Drive and, guess what?
[1136.44] Jack: I don't have access, he's revoked it all.
[1140.12] Jack: That's typical.
[1141.08] Tony: Are you going to show pictures of you?
[1142.92] Jack: Yeah, I mean, I had it all lined up.
[1145.08] Tony: I think if you go onto his Instagram, he might have done it,
[1147.72] Tony: but I don't know if that was stories or,
[1151.4] Jack: Not as good, is it?
[1153.64] Tony: No, but I mean, what country is in poems?
[1158.04] Jack: I ain't got a clue.
[1159.0] Jack: I don't know where Frank is.
[1161.08] Tony: He's on an MI5 mission.
[1164.04] Tony: He's gone undercover.
[1166.84] Tony: Maybe he's in Russia or Serbia or something.
[1171.08] Tony: Hardly.
[1174.52] Tony: Definitely undercover.
[1175.32] Jack: So we're going to, we're going to go back to you, Clive, in a sec.
[1181.08] Clive: Okay.
[1182.28] Jack: So you better start talking.
[1185.16] Jack: You better, you better show some footage.
[1190.12] Jack: Hang on.
[1190.92] Jack: I've got slow flying.
[1192.2] Jack: Yeah.
[1194.36] Jack: Well, you know, I don't mind.
[1196.12] Jack: I'm grateful.
[1197.32] Tony: You know, if you slow flying, we can actually see where the course goes.
[1201.56] Tony: Because some of the stuff I've seen,
[1204.76] Clive: The A and B finals are so quick.
[1208.6] Tony: Yeah.
[1209.0] Tony: I watched someone in Australia, though it was live last night,
[1212.68] Tony: and I just happened to flick on something.
[1215.0] Tony: And they were, they would do some flying.
[1218.68] Tony: And the course just seemed like a mess.
[1220.84] Tony: It didn't even seem like it was just,
[1223.8] Clive: Yes, the Australian nationals is huge.
[1226.04] Tony: Yeah.
[1226.36] Tony: And it just looked like, I couldn't even see where to go.
[1229.64] Tony: It was like, what are you doing?
[1230.76] Tony: You there, there, there, there.
[1232.2] Tony: It was just, it's like an actual course, like a track or whatever.
[1237.4] Tony: It was just,
[1238.92] Clive: It's two courses in one.
[1240.68] Clive: That's the thing, because the X-Class track as well.
[1243.56] Clive: So it's like through parvits, the X-Class track and part of it's the five-inch track.
[1247.64] Tony: Oh, it's so confusing.
[1250.44] Tony: You'd have to have a walk around for about half an hour to see,
[1253.32] Tony: you know, like, I'm just going to walk the track for 30 minutes to see where we're going.
[1258.76] Tony: I remember the good old days when it was just,
[1260.92] Tony: everything went left.
[1263.8] Tony: And you could see, you go around there, over that, maybe through that.
[1269.08] Tony: I don't think I've ever done a dive gate at all.
[1272.2] Tony: They weren't invented.
[1275.96] Tony: They're not that scary, actually.
[1279.0] Tony: No, not really, no.
[1281.0] Tony: Well, I've never done one of them.
[1283.0] Tony: Do you go up and you go down and under, don't you?
[1285.64] Tony: You're not.
[1286.68] Tony: Or can you do both?
[1288.68] Clive: Yeah, you can use the same thing, but they call it a gravity gate if you go
[1292.84] Clive: one way and the dive gate if you go the other.
[1295.0] Tony: Right, let's see.
[1296.84] Tony: Where's the Yeti disappeared to?
[1301.64] Tony: Jack, where have you gone?
[1305.89] Tony: He's just disappeared, isn't he?
[1309.17] Tony: Good eyes, didn't he?
[1311.25] Tony: Yep.
[1311.81] Tony: Have you got any footage you can show?
[1315.81] Clive: I put the YouTube video on in the private chat.
[1319.89] Tony: Oh, God.
[1320.93] Tony: You're going to have to wait for him to do that because I don't know.
[1323.41] Tony: I don't want to present or touch anything because I just will ruin anything, everything.
[1330.69] Tony: So where was it held?
[1333.41] Clive: Buckminster, BMFA headquarters.
[1335.97] Clive: Buckminster?
[1337.33] Clive: Yeah.
[1338.21] Tony: Nice.
[1339.41] Tony: Where is that?
[1340.45] Tony: In Buckminster, he's in...
[1342.69] Clive: Between Leicester and Grantham.
[1345.89] Tony: It's quite far, for me.
[1349.01] Tony: You're near that way, aren't you?
[1350.29] Tony: How many hours did it take you to get there?
[1352.85] Clive: Nearly three hours.
[1354.29] Tony: Three hours.
[1356.85] Clive: And obviously, it sort of started at eight o'clock in the morning, so I left home at 4am.
[1363.81] Tony: Were they on time?
[1364.85] Tony: Did they start at eight?
[1366.29] Tony: Because how many times I used to go...
[1368.13] Clive: Well, checking and stuff did.
[1369.65] Clive: Checking actually started because you have to check...
[1371.25] Clive: When you have to get there, you have to check in to make sure the fail safe works correctly.
[1376.45] Clive: And also, the CAA numbers and all of that stuff is all on there.
[1380.29] Clive: So that started early.
[1381.09] Tony: Oh, God, you've got to fill those numbers and all that stuff.
[1384.61] Clive: But then there's all the technical stuff, like the race directors,
[1386.77] Clive: got to make sure their stuff's working.
[1388.93] Clive: Cerberus was doing the live stream, so it takes a little bit of time for him to get all uploaded
[1395.09] Clive: and stuff, so it never starts when they say it's going to start.
[1401.57] Tony: So how many people were there?
[1405.73] Tony: 50?
[1406.53] Tony: 50, yeah.
[1408.93] Tony: Was it 50, cut off 50, or just 50 people when all...
[1412.53] Tony: 50 people qualified?
[1414.61] Tony: So it is for...
[1416.61] Clive: The qualifying is 57 English and Welsh pilots.
[1422.69] Clive: I've given a slot.
[1425.17] Clive: And then there are guaranteed three spaces for people from the Scottish League, from Scotland.
[1431.25] Clive: But the Scottish guys have been traveling down throughout the year to enter the British races,
[1437.01] Clive: so the English races and stuff.
[1438.45] Clive: So a lot of them all qualified themselves, so they didn't need that.
[1443.81] Clive: So they brought an extra three pilots down as well.
[1446.61] Clive: They had a really good contingent of the Scottish guys.
[1449.09] Clive: They came down.
[1451.41] Clive: But yeah, sort of 60 pilots.
[1456.21] Clive: Dogs are running around.
[1458.29] Clive: Not barking, thankfully.
[1460.61] Clive: So yeah, so they go off the top 60 qualifiers and they have 10 reserve spaces.
[1467.57] Clive: So up to like 70th, you could possibly get selected.
[1471.57] Tony: So there's still a lot of sitting around.
[1474.45] Tony: I remember it used to have been hours sometimes between races.
[1478.93] Clive: It's about 45 minutes to an hour between races.
[1482.77] Clive: Just don't say there's nine rounds to get through, so.
[1488.05] Tony: Yeah, I used to hate that.
[1489.81] Tony: Just getting ready, getting your goals, your hearts beating, your fingers are going big,
[1497.09] Tony: two, one, beep, and then props are on, wrong way around.
[1500.13] Tony: You flop over like that and you're done.
[1501.89] Tony: And then I was like, oh, I've got to wait another hour now.
[1505.25] Tony: Yeah, yeah.
[1507.89] Clive: I went for the social, not for so much the flying,
[1510.69] Clive: because I knew I wasn't going to come anywhere beyond the bottom end of the table.
[1517.25] Tony: As long as you go and enjoy it, I suppose.
[1519.89] Clive: Yeah, that's the main thing.
[1520.93] Clive: I just wanted to go.
[1521.57] Clive: That's what I just tried to qualify just to go for the experience of it.
[1524.77] Clive: So.
[1525.25] Tony: Is there many same faces still there?
[1529.89] Tony: Is it quite a new lot coming through the ranks?
[1532.29] Tony: Is there a new FBV pilots out there, new youngsters?
[1537.01] Tony: Or is there still some old boys still going?
[1539.89] Clive: Yeah, there's still some old ones out there.
[1541.41] Clive: You might know Steve Rammer-Rhodes.
[1543.09] Clive: Yeah, oh, yeah.
[1544.45] Clive: Yeah, he's still there, middle of the table.
[1549.81] Clive: But yeah, obviously, the top end pilots are all in their late teens, early 20s.
[1555.89] Tony: They're all gamers, aren't they?
[1558.53] Clive: You had more of that game era, yeah.
[1560.61] Tony: Yeah, that's PlayStation, Xbox, all stuff.
[1564.53] Tony: I mean, I always was.
[1567.01] Tony: But these kids just don't like that, don't they?
[1572.53] Clive: Yeah, so pretty much all the top end, all the ones that are off to China
[1579.09] Clive: later this year, 13 degree.
[1581.57] Tony: I thought there's some big Chinese thing going on again.
[1585.65] Tony: Another one.
[1587.17] Tony: That'll be exciting.
[1589.09] Tony: You know, why don't you manage them, Clive?
[1592.21] Clive: That's gone to KPV, Karl.
[1595.25] Clive: I don't know.
[1595.81] Clive: This year, he's the team manager.
[1597.73] Clive: Do you know him?
[1598.77] Clive: See a good one?
[1600.13] Clive: Yeah, he's a good guy, yeah.
[1601.73] Clive: He's been flying for years.
[1603.81] Clive: So this track was designed by Bonner, or Bonner, I don't pronounce his name.
[1610.77] Clive: So it was quite an easy one.
[1613.33] Clive: So it wasn't anybody in the UK.
[1615.09] Clive: Nobody, none of the pilots had an advantage.
[1618.45] Clive: Because on some events, it's a pilot who's racing it that has designed it.
[1622.45] Clive: So they have a slight advantage.
[1626.13] Tony: This is probably the speed I'd go if I joined back up.
[1632.98] Jack: Cheering at trick.
[1634.74] Jack: Should do, it's good fun.
[1636.74] Jack: I'd get lost.
[1638.66] Tony: I don't find it fun anymore.
[1641.46] Tony: It was fun, I think, a few years back.
[1646.1] Tony: But I don't know, because I've done it for so long, I did it for so long.
[1653.24] Tony: I just...
[1653.88] Jack: You're doing well, Clive.
[1656.04] Jack: I couldn't do this.
[1658.04] Jack: And lots of diving, jumping through gates.
[1661.64] Jack: Sort of like back and forth.
[1663.56] Jack: But the guys at the top end of the table, what are they like?
[1668.44] Jack: Were they, was it just like a total blur?
[1670.76] Jack: You just hear it's a blur and you don't know where they're going.
[1672.84] Tony: Yeah, they're pretty much a blur.
[1674.76] Clive: Like my fastest was three laps in, there you go, I make a wrong flight there.
[1680.28] Clive: But my fastest, on this one, I think it was like three laps in, one minute 40 something.
[1686.28] Clive: The top pilots are doing three laps in about 40 seconds.
[1691.8] Jack: No way.
[1692.6] Jack: That's mental.
[1693.64] Jack: Yeah, they are.
[1694.84] Jack: So what's that, like 20 seconds a lap?
[1699.0] Clive: Bless them, that.
[1699.96] Clive: Yeah, 17 seconds.
[1703.16] Clive: That's crazy.
[1704.76] Clive: Yeah, I don't know how they do it.
[1708.12] Clive: The odd thing about the way they do the spotting in the UK is that when it comes to the finals,
[1715.08] Clive: the slowest pilots have to spot the fastest pilots.
[1721.24] Clive: So it's literally, you sit there and you're like, right, okay, I've got to not blink
[1725.72] Clive: for the next minute.
[1728.28] Clive: Because if you like, it's just, it's amazing to watch them.
[1733.16] Clive: But ask me if I, if they took a flight, right?
[1735.88] Clive: It's like, not a clue.
[1738.04] Clive: They're through, they're through it faster than I can actually comprehend what they're doing.
[1741.72] Tony: Yeah.
[1742.28] Tony: Or saying some of it is absolutely mental.
[1747.48] Jack: So this is my presentation of being at Pop the Mayor show.
[1754.44] Jack: All photos are taken by Frank, our Lord and Master.
[1759.4] Jack: That's Chris motherf***ing G, isn't it?
[1762.04] Jack: Yes.
[1763.72] Jack: That is the slag indeed.
[1766.76] Jack: Um, notice we've both a rock in crossfire.
[1776.12] Jack: Yeah, green glows on our, on our lovely transmitters.
[1785.24] Jack: And we've got, you know, Chris G's, everyone's kind of familiar
[1789.4] Jack: with it now.
[1790.52] Jack: His control flap on all axis, uh, tricopter.
[1797.48] Jack: We don't know how he sets it up.
[1799.8] Jack: I've got no idea what the mix is.
[1805.8] Jack: I don't even know if it is beat a flight or if it's like,
[1809.56] Jack: I'll do pilot or something.
[1811.48] Jack: I haven't got a clue, but I don't know how he does it.
[1815.0] Jack: I went there.
[1816.44] Jack: They didn't, they weren't doing any racing.
[1819.48] Jack: They were kind of like fun flying with a track, uh, for the tiny groups.
[1824.6] Jack: And that's behind us.
[1826.68] Jack: And, um, it was all like netted off and everything.
[1830.36] Jack: Um, at the end of the day, when like it was all finished, everyone went home.
[1835.48] Jack: We, um, we, we kind of like went to the other end of the tent.
[1840.68] Jack: Uh, Frank stood in the way of the delicate boat display that was left
[1847.72] Jack: on the tables unattended and we were like, Frank, can you stand there?
[1852.52] Jack: So that if you get hit, you get hit rather than the expensive boats.
[1860.52] Jack: And, uh, Frank did do that.
[1864.68] Jack: Thank God.
[1866.12] Jack: Um, yeah, so that was, that was like lovely of him.
[1871.08] Jack: Um, yeah, so we just kind of have a little bit of a hover really.
[1875.24] Jack: And then, um, over there, they had a drift track.
[1880.12] Jack: Yeah, man.
[1881.64] Jack: And, uh, we kind of like wandered over and we were like, can we have a go?
[1886.92] Jack: And they were like, yeah, sure.
[1888.68] Jack: And, uh, they gave, they, they gave us a go, uh, towards the end.
[1895.08] Jack: And we were, we were there for, I dunno, hours, just like drifting around a track.
[1904.36] Jack: And I tell you what, when you don't have fly in the equation, oh my God,
[1911.08] Jack: a two S battery lasts forever.
[1914.6] Jack: You know, it was just like, you kind of go, you know, you're not.
[1920.52] Tony: One motor, isn't it?
[1922.52] Jack: Yeah.
[1923.08] Jack: One brushless motor.
[1925.48] Jack: You know, like you'd ask them like, how much do these cost?
[1928.2] Jack: And like, it's basically about a thousand pounds per model for the car.
[1935.72] Jack: Yeah.
[1935.96] Clive: Really?
[1936.76] Clive: It's mad.
[1938.52] Jack: Yeah.
[1939.96] Jack: Big old expensive brushless motor.
[1942.52] Jack: It's got, it's got like a special gyro in there.
[1947.08] Jack: Like, I don't know.
[1948.68] Jack: I think it would be quite cheap.
[1952.04] Jack: Probably because it's not all open source stuff.
[1955.64] Tony: Yeah.
[1955.88] Tony: But tires will slide easy or something.
[1960.36] Jack: Yeah.
[1960.68] Tony: You think done.
[1963.64] Jack: Yeah.
[1964.12] Jack: I don't know.
[1965.08] Jack: Like, you know, no big, big expensive surveys.
[1969.4] Jack: I haven't got a clue, but I mean, that's what he was telling us.
[1974.52] Jack: So who knows?
[1976.36] Jack: I don't know.
[1977.72] Jack: But Frank took some lovely photos.
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[2007.32] Jack: Here's the track.
[2008.76] Jack: One thing I did really find funny loads of LED track and like LED gates and that is all lovely
[2017.56] Jack: lit up and to help with rejection and aiming the receiver that picks up the spike in
[2031.88] Jack: the transmission for the timing.
[2035.32] Jack: They had to put it in a saucepan.
[2037.64] Jack: So you had this big fancy LED track with like loads of drones flying around and the yeah,
[2045.16] Jack: a sort of that's like obviously being used to camping.
[2048.52] Jack: It's got like a dirty burnt bottom.
[2052.92] Jack: Yeah, that was we, you know, it was just like,
[2057.88] Jack: you know, you got the car guys and they're like,
[2061.32] Jack: racing all their cars and they're looking pretty smart and swanky.
[2065.8] Jack: And we're over here with a saucepan.
[2071.88] Tony: Some outside stuff as well.
[2073.64] Jack: Yeah.
[2074.04] Jack: So they had like a little sort of like RC display.
[2078.28] Jack: I didn't get up and go see that.
[2084.52] Jack: But yeah.
[2087.24] Jack: Yeah.
[2088.36] Jack: Yeah, I had smoke, you know, looks like there's a bit of 3D flying there.
[2093.32] Tony: Typical umbrella in the shop because it's an FBV event.
[2097.4] Tony: So why would it be dry?
[2099.96] Jack: I know.
[2102.68] Jack: There is another photo in my WhatsApp.
[2106.6] Tony: I can't believe you went out, Jones.
[2108.44] Tony: It's amazing.
[2110.28] Tony: Why?
[2112.92] Tony: You don't go out a lot.
[2114.2] Tony: And you probably drove by my house and didn't even come in and say hello.
[2117.56] Tony: Give me a hug or anything.
[2119.88] Jack: I don't know.
[2120.44] Jack: I just assumed that you were on airsoft.
[2125.56] Tony: Was it a Sunday Saturday?
[2129.4] Tony: Why only airsoft on Sunday?
[2132.28] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[2134.28] Jack: Oh, this might be a complete disaster.
[2137.88] Clive: But it's a shame that pop comes on that same weekend.
[2143.16] Clive: Would have must have gone there.
[2144.52] Clive: So it's always a fun event to pop them in that.
[2148.36] Tony: Yeah, it's not a million miles away.
[2150.6] Tony: Well, it's not.
[2151.64] Tony: It's about an hour and 20 for me, I think.
[2155.88] Clive: Yeah, it's about the same for me.
[2159.8] Tony: Yeah, it's about 100 miles.
[2162.28] Jack: And here's a photo of the tricopter and it's upside down.
[2170.44] Jack: Chris G flipped it.
[2173.48] Jack: Nice.
[2174.2] Jack: So and so, yeah, props off to Chris G.
[2183.4] Jack: No, he didn't.
[2184.68] Jack: And get this.
[2186.84] Jack: He flipped his one as well.
[2191.0] Jack: He was like, this is either going to explode.
[2195.88] Tony: It did do it.
[2196.92] Jack: It did do it.
[2197.64] Jack: It did it in both axis as well.
[2200.84] Jack: So, yeah, like it's like least stable axis.
[2211.48] Jack: So I'm well in practice, man.
[2213.24] Jack: I'm just like, Chris G always knocking it out of the park.
[2218.92] Tony: I do love it.
[2219.96] Tony: Are you cheating on him with me?
[2222.68] Tony: No.
[2223.56] Tony: Okay.
[2225.0] Jack: No, you are my only wife.
[2227.8] Tony: I don't know.
[2230.68] Tony: Why do I play along with this?
[2232.84] Tony: I don't know.
[2233.48] Jack: It's funny.
[2237.8] Jack: You're out tonight with that hussy Denise.
[2240.68] Jack: I know you are.
[2241.72] Tony: What is this?
[2242.44] Tony: What are you getting me?
[2246.04] Jack: I thought if we said you were on a day, maybe we could finish early
[2249.72] Jack: because we'll probably clearly run out of stuff to talk about.
[2253.24] Jack: Poor Clive's like dying of anxiety over there.
[2256.6] Jack: He's like, Oh my God.
[2258.52] Jack: I hate talking on a podcast.
[2261.72] Jack: It's so much better tuning in and laughing at their pathetic little lives.
[2268.12] Clive: It's different this side.
[2269.16] Clive: Yeah.
[2270.6] Jack: It's hard, isn't it?
[2271.8] Jack: It is.
[2272.28] Jack: Yeah.
[2272.6] Jack: So hard.
[2273.96] Jack: Look how ready you are.
[2275.88] Clive: Like, yeah, yeah.
[2281.32] Tony: It's all sunny and such a lovely weather.
[2285.32] Tony: Oh yeah.
[2286.12] Jack: England.
[2286.84] Jack: Yeah.
[2290.92] Jack: It took two years to get Frank to say a whole paragraph.
[2296.04] Jack: Remember that time?
[2297.32] Tony: Yeah.
[2298.12] Tony: And there's me.
[2299.16] Tony: I think I've stripped off for money.
[2301.4] Tony: I've done it from the bath.
[2304.04] Clive: Yeah, I know.
[2306.04] Tony: We got drunk.
[2307.72] Tony: Yeah, got drunk.
[2309.24] Tony: Also, I don't care what people think of me.
[2311.64] Tony: Yeah, well, you get them all.
[2312.68] Tony: You don't care.
[2313.32] Tony: You don't really know the big five zero is coming.
[2322.68] Jack: It is on its way.
[2324.28] Jack: What's happening, man?
[2325.56] Jack: Did you buy Oasis tickets to relive your youth?
[2329.8] Tony: I can't stand them.
[2333.0] Tony: I'd only buy them to make some money.
[2336.76] Tony: No, I did.
[2337.72] Tony: I did try to book a whole one of DJ.
[2342.2] Tony: And then the DJ was more dyslexic and stupid than me,
[2347.16] Tony: because he said, I'll send you a text to say it's definitely booked.
[2354.04] Tony: And he sent a text saying it's definitely not booked.
[2358.84] Tony: And I just thought, oh, sorry, I'll give up.
[2360.68] Tony: And then he rang up like literally two weeks ago and went,
[2364.44] Tony: so are we going ahead with all this party there?
[2367.16] Tony: And I was like, what?
[2368.28] Tony: I said, the message he sent said not.
[2372.28] Tony: And he said, you know, I'm dyslexic idiot.
[2374.68] Tony: I got it round and I'm meant to say, yes, we're doing it.
[2378.28] Tony: And I was just like, to be honest,
[2380.04] Tony: I've completely just given up and forgot all about it.
[2383.32] Tony: I can't be bothered.
[2384.28] Tony: So no party.
[2386.04] Tony: I don't think I'm going to do anything.
[2389.08] Tony: I know it's not.
[2389.96] Tony: I know it's quite big.
[2391.88] Jack: You can't sit there and cry.
[2394.44] Jack: Well, I don't know.
[2402.6] Tony: I might go for a ride or something after they off.
[2405.48] Tony: I don't think.
[2405.96] Tony: When is it?
[2406.52] Tony: Is it a Tuesday or something crap?
[2408.2] Jack: What about curry?
[2409.56] Jack: For old time's sake.
[2411.4] Tony: Yeah, I might go out and do something like that.
[2413.64] Tony: I would like to have a party, but it's too late.
[2416.36] Tony: And another reason, three of my best girl mates,
[2421.32] Tony: all away on the date that I was going to do it as well.
[2424.12] Tony: So yeah, so I just didn't bother.
[2430.04] Tony: I could do something a bit later on in October, I suppose.
[2433.32] Tony: It doesn't have to be on my actual birthday, does it?
[2436.44] Tony: But I would like to get everyone together in the same room
[2438.68] Tony: and have some beers and a bit of a dance and stuff.
[2441.72] Jack: A lot of you, you're going to have to come down for this.
[2446.6] Tony: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[2447.8] Tony: Everyone just come.
[2449.32] Tony: If you know me, you can turn up.
[2450.76] Tony: But, as I say, I haven't actually done anything yet.
[2456.2] Jack: It could be a complete disaster.
[2457.72] Tony: I can't hear Tony's house.
[2460.52] Tony: Yeah, you could have fit five people in here,
[2462.6] Tony: didn't I?
[2463.0] Tony: Fifty.
[2465.94] Jack: Well, most of your girl mates are away, so.
[2468.1] Tony: Well, although not on that date I was doing it,
[2471.14] Tony: it was like 20.
[2472.9] Tony: I think I was booking the pool and the DJ for the 26th of September
[2480.66] Tony: and they're all away.
[2482.42] Tony: And it was like six and a half hundred quid and I thought,
[2485.46] Tony: that's bloody flight somewhere.
[2487.7] Tony: If I don't book a party, I could just fly somewhere with that money.
[2492.1] Tony: So, I don't know.
[2493.3] Tony: I might just bugger off instead.
[2498.15] Jack: You'll, you know, you'll see.
[2501.27] Jack: I wonder where you'll go.
[2504.55] Tony: I'm going far away if I go.
[2508.8] Jack: Back to Texas.
[2510.96] Jack: All ye and no ha.
[2513.28] Tony: The other way.
[2514.64] Tony: The other way on the planet.
[2518.24] Jack: Russia.
[2520.32] Tony: That's the direct.
[2521.2] Tony: No, not really that direction.
[2522.72] Tony: Down a bit.
[2524.8] Tony: Ukraine.
[2526.64] Tony: Down a bit more.
[2529.6] Tony: But it's quite far away.
[2532.32] Tony: Anyway, come on.
[2533.44] Tony: Where's my spare time?
[2536.16] Tony: Oh, near.
[2536.96] Tony: It's very near Taiwan.
[2538.88] Tony: That's all I'm saying.
[2542.68] Tony: My lips are sealed.
[2544.44] Jack: He's going to tie and he's going to get himself.
[2547.0] Jack: He's like, I'm 50 going to get me a tie bird.
[2550.44] Jack: Tie wife.
[2551.96] Tony: Nearly.
[2555.92] Tony: Yes.
[2556.48] Tony: Quite spot on.
[2557.44] Tony: How we get, how's our divorce going to go?
[2559.6] Tony: Can I just, we'll shoot just by saying we're divorced.
[2563.36] Jack: Yeah.
[2564.0] Jack: I mean, if you, if you get a proper wife, then I guess it's nullified.
[2569.76] Jack: Thank you.
[2571.2] Jack: No worries.
[2572.48] Jack: I'm taking the dog.
[2574.08] Tony: No, no.
[2575.44] Tony: I'm staying for a go-go.
[2578.88] Tony: Yeah.
[2579.04] Tony: Custody battle for cocoa.
[2581.28] Jack: Yeah.
[2581.6] Jack: My half of the house.
[2584.08] Tony: You haven't done anything to deserve her, Jack.
[2586.96] Tony: That will be my argument.
[2589.92] Clive: Jack, I put another link in the chat, private chat, which is the B finals winner.
[2595.92] Clive: So you can have a look at fast one.
[2599.28] Clive: Yes.
[2599.76] Jack: Thank you for generating content, Clive.
[2602.72] Tony: I probably want to talk about my birthday.
[2606.24] Jack: Do you know what?
[2608.16] Jack: The video has ended before I could even stream it.
[2611.76] Jack: That's how quick it is.
[2613.76] Jack: Jesus Christ.
[2615.12] Jack: I don't even have to pause it.
[2616.96] Tony: And this is B finals.
[2618.64] Tony: It's not even a final.
[2620.0] Tony: Yes.
[2621.52] Tony: Steve is usually.
[2622.72] Clive: No, that's one.
[2628.4] Clive: He's much quicker.
[2630.16] Clive: Steve missed the first half of Saturday because he was at a wedding.
[2634.48] Clive: I believe he was walking his aunt down the aisle.
[2637.92] Clive: He turned up in his wedding regalia.
[2640.64] Clive: So properly posh shoes and stuff.
[2644.96] Clive: And he actually ended up under quite a bit of pressure.
[2648.56] Clive: Obviously, it's all done, but you get your fastest three.
[2653.76] Clive: So it's like there's like 50% and he hadn't done 50% of the overall amount of
[2660.32] Clive: heat with three laps until the very last he had four with two heats left to go.
[2669.44] Clive: And he was actually below me in the qualifying.
[2673.28] Clive: That made sense at that point.
[2675.84] Clive: So we had a little bit of balance there of like saying,
[2677.84] Clive: what on earth are you doing?
[2678.88] Clive: Why are you below me?
[2680.88] Clive: So, but yeah, if you had two pressure rounds where he had to get his three laps in.
[2686.56] Tony: I don't know where they're going.
[2687.84] Tony: It's just like flying around some gates.
[2690.08] Tony: It could be freestyling for all I know.
[2693.76] Clive: So I think he was actually doing, he does five laps on this one.
[2697.52] Clive: So he does five laps in about a time.
[2699.44] Clive: I took to do three.
[2702.64] Jack: So he had a bit of a, he doesn't even crash slow.
[2707.92] Tony: I don't know.
[2708.48] Tony: When he's crashes, I like, did he hit the ground or what?
[2711.44] Tony: I don't think no way.
[2712.72] Tony: Yeah, this, this week, I could never get back into it now.
[2719.52] Tony: I'd be like granny Tony going around.
[2726.48] Tony: Couldn't do this.
[2727.2] Jack: I mean, that is rapid, isn't it?
[2731.76] Clive: They're all just so smooth as well at the top end.
[2736.24] Tony: Yeah.
[2736.48] Tony: It's just like, it's just like they flick it and it's into the next gate.
[2742.0] Tony: Ready.
[2742.56] Clive: Yeah.
[2743.04] Tony: They just know where they're going, didn't they?
[2746.16] Clive: Yeah.
[2746.4] Clive: I think some of them do just fly a muscle memory over.
[2748.72] Clive: Yeah.
[2749.2] Tony: Actually, I did one day when I was out practicing on my own,
[2755.6] Tony: when I used to go up the field, I got into some state of mind where I could,
[2761.92] Tony: I remember feeling that I could do that.
[2764.56] Tony: And I lost it quite quickly after that.
[2766.48] Tony: I don't know why I should have just carried on practicing, I suppose.
[2769.36] Tony: But yeah, it was, it was muscle memory.
[2774.4] Tony: And then you can work on that and just get quicker and quicker and quicker.
[2778.16] Tony: And I suppose that's how these guys keep going.
[2783.2] Tony: But for me, it's the waiting between races, especially if you crash out within the first
[2792.0] Tony: 10 seconds and you have to wait an hour until you get back up and all that lot.
[2796.88] Tony: And then it was always a two day event as well, wasn't it?
[2799.76] Tony: So as you can see in the background, it's just a bit fun.
[2804.8] Tony: Yeah.
[2806.56] Clive: So yeah, we had the obviously the legendary Matt Andrews commentating with Cerberus.
[2812.8] Tony: I guess I reckon it was him and his voice.
[2819.75] Clive: A really genuinely nice guy.
[2821.35] Clive: So even when he wasn't competent, he was wandering around chatting to us all.
[2824.39] Clive: So is he American or English?
[2829.11] Clive: English.
[2829.67] Clive: Yeah, he does the DCL and stuff.
[2832.39] Tony: Yeah, he goes over there, doesn't he?
[2835.35] Tony: Does he get paid to do that?
[2837.43] Tony: I take it he gets paid to do that over there.
[2839.03] Tony: Does he get paid over here?
[2842.31] Clive: I would guess so.
[2843.19] Clive: Couldn't tell you.
[2843.67] Clive: I wouldn't like to guess how much he does get paid or doesn't get paid.
[2850.07] Tony: How much does it cost to do a race like that now?
[2853.43] Tony: How much do you have to put up?
[2855.83] Tony: So championships was 60 pound entry.
[2859.11] Tony: 60 quid a year.
[2860.47] Tony: Yeah.
[2861.27] Tony: That's two days.
[2862.15] Tony: And then what do you have to pay extra for camping?
[2865.35] Tony: No, camping was included on that one.
[2867.99] Tony: Okay, that's not too bad, is it?
[2870.31] Tony: 30 quid a day.
[2876.31] Jack: I know.
[2877.03] Jack: I do miss doing all that stuff for you.
[2879.11] Jack: It was quite nice being in the pit crew.
[2882.07] Jack: At Pop'em with you two and fixing stuff.
[2887.11] Tony: Yes, you literally took my ex-glossing part and put it back together in about a half hour.
[2891.75] Jack: Yeah, it would have been...
[2893.11] Tony: I've got a time map somewhere if you're doing it.
[2895.51] Jack: Yeah, maybe you need to swing by and get me Clive,
[2899.51] Jack: and then you wouldn't have to take your fat shark goggles apart.
[2904.55] Clive: Swing by.
[2905.19] Clive: Completely the right wrong direction.
[2908.55] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[2911.91] Tony: They used to be down here, though, didn't they?
[2914.55] Tony: When it all first started, 10 years ago, when we all into this FPV supermarket,
[2921.11] Tony: it was everything was down here.
[2922.79] Tony: We had the first...
[2924.63] Tony: We had the Dom organized it.
[2927.11] Tony: It was all down here, wasn't it?
[2928.15] Tony: All down south at Hidden Valley and...
[2930.47] Jack: Yeah, Mini Air Show and everything.
[2932.47] Tony: Yeah, Mini Air Show.
[2933.51] Tony: And there was just everything down here.
[2935.91] Tony: I think my thingies are falling apart.
[2943.41] Clive: Well, Tony, I think someone's trying to start a racing club in Stains, so...
[2948.13] Tony: Stains?
[2949.41] Clive: Yes.
[2950.69] Tony: That means I'll have to go over the river and pay.
[2955.11] Tony: Stains are massive.
[2956.47] Tony: Westside.
[2959.35] Tony: No, too far...
[2961.27] Tony: I don't even pay for my flying field anymore.
[2964.39] Tony: That's how much I've flown.
[2966.95] Jack: Yeah.
[2967.59] Tony: I think, Jack, you'll have to come down to my house one day,
[2970.07] Tony: and we'll literally go through every single drone to see if they work.
[2975.03] Jack: I'll have to dust them off.
[2977.43] Jack: Yeah, but you need to be in a field to do field testing.
[2982.95] Tony: Ah, we're doing McFrank on.
[2987.83] Jack: I know my repair equipment and stuff's all here.
[2993.51] Tony: All right, I'll come to you,
[2994.47] Tony: and then we'll take out one by one over to a park or something.
[2999.03] Jack: Yeah.
[3000.79] Jack: We have got a nice walking distance.
[3004.39] Jack: Park where we could...
[3007.27] Jack: And we need to sort out my big X-Class as well.
[3011.11] Tony: Yeah, both of them.
[3012.95] Tony: I don't know what's wrong with either of them now.
[3015.99] Tony: One flies but flips over on its own,
[3017.99] Tony: and the other one arms, and that's it.
[3022.48] Tony: So, I don't know.
[3024.24] Tony: Now, I don't know how it can arm,
[3025.84] Tony: and then you press the throttle, and nothing happens.
[3028.96] Tony: It's very strange.
[3032.5] Jack: Is that the battery's toast?
[3034.58] Tony: No.
[3037.65] Tony: I don't know why it flipped.
[3038.77] Tony: It went into the ground when I flew.
[3041.25] Tony: I don't know if it was me or...
[3043.73] Tony: It was a loss of power, weren't it?
[3045.09] Tony: It was a loss of power, which I thought the battery was,
[3048.13] Tony: but we got back and tested it, and it was all right.
[3050.85] Tony: So, then after that, it just didn't...
[3054.45] Tony: It doesn't throttle, so I don't know what happened.
[3057.49] Jack: Yeah, but you need to load test the battery.
[3063.81] Jack: Because...
[3065.49] Tony: I could probably start the Integra on one of them.
[3070.53] Tony: I started it the other day on a 4S, 5,000 milliamp.
[3074.29] Tony: I was like, Bruce, we ain't going to go to the pub in the car
[3077.65] Tony: because it's nearly run out of battery,
[3079.73] Tony: and then I got my batteries out, and I went,
[3082.29] Tony: yeah, you'll be all right.
[3083.41] Tony: Just hold that on there and that on there,
[3085.25] Tony: and it literally started on the key.
[3088.21] Tony: Just went vroom.
[3091.73] Jack: Oh, my God.
[3092.61] Jack: You ended up taking the white coat.
[3093.33] Jack: I don't recommend that because it's on the higher end
[3097.89] Jack: of what the electronics can handle.
[3103.41] Clive: Yeah, the 4S on storage charge is fine.
[3108.29] Jack: No, he leaves a light fully charged or some ****.
[3111.33] Jack: I don't know.
[3112.13] Tony: No, no, no.
[3114.21] Tony: I'm hoping they're all right.
[3116.37] Tony: But yeah, I've lost enthusiasm for flying.
[3121.01] Tony: I'm never not going to fly ever again.
[3124.29] Tony: It's just all that infusion.
[3126.29] Tony: It was exciting years ago, and now it's just,
[3129.81] Tony: you know, when you do, I don't know,
[3131.65] Tony: when you do something for so long,
[3132.93] Tony: you just get bored of it and do something else.
[3136.93] Tony: But oh, I will fly again properly,
[3140.77] Tony: but probably not right.
[3142.77] Tony: Just, you know, make some nice videos again,
[3145.97] Tony: maybe next summer.
[3147.09] Tony: I don't know.
[3149.09] Tony: Hopefully some more X-Class racing next year.
[3151.41] Tony: Maybe, maybe, maybe.
[3155.97] Tony: I don't know.
[3156.53] Tony: I'd have to take a trip down to Jackson
[3158.37] Tony: and see if we can get them both up and running.
[3161.73] Jack: Yeah, we could do that one day.
[3164.21] Jack: Yeah, I've got some theories that like,
[3167.01] Jack: what's wrong, but you just never know, do you?
[3172.85] Tony: No, no.
[3175.89] Tony: We'll have to go.
[3176.77] Tony: There'll be a lot of testing.
[3179.65] Tony: A lot.
[3181.49] Jack: But I've, do you reckon you could ever make it down here?
[3185.89] Jack: Sunny Brighton for a weekend or so,
[3189.09] Jack: for the weather goes completely tits.
[3193.09] Tony: I think it's already gone, isn't it?
[3195.09] Tony: Like literally last week it started
[3197.49] Tony: and summer just ended like that.
[3200.29] Tony: And then it rained, what did it rain?
[3202.53] Tony: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.
[3205.01] Tony: Four days in a row.
[3208.29] Clive: The summer is gone.
[3210.13] Jack: Yeah.
[3212.21] Jack: I need, I need some help.
[3215.25] Jack: What are the keywords for the gummies
[3219.25] Jack: that hold a tiny whoop in?
[3224.53] Jack: Do you know what I mean?
[3225.41] Jack: They're like the gummies that go into the PCB,
[3228.37] Jack: the holder 1.5 mil screw or bolt.
[3236.69] Tony: Did anyone know?
[3237.97] Jack: What are the keywords on eBay?
[3241.25] Tony: Gummies, tiny whoop, flight controller, gummies, whoop,
[3249.3] Tony: whoop gummies, whoop, I don't know.
[3254.18] Jack: I am completely lost without drone junkie.
[3264.92] Tony: Is there anyone left?
[3267.48] Tony: Because I don't even know if Menace is about.
[3270.6] Tony: I should have a chat to him
[3272.12] Tony: and just speak to old Greg and say hello.
[3275.24] Tony: I haven't spoken to him for ages
[3276.28] Tony: and I had to throw one of my Menace t-shirts
[3278.76] Tony: in the bin to help warn it.
[3281.72] Jack: He doesn't answer.
[3282.68] Jack: He doesn't respond to anyone.
[3285.0] Jack: Does he not?
[3286.36] Jack: No, like we've.
[3288.68] Tony: Does he still?
[3289.72] Tony: I tried ringing him.
[3291.56] Tony: As in.
[3292.6] Jack: Yeah, he's still on Facebook.
[3294.52] Jack: He's gone to like.
[3298.44] Jack: Yeah, raving and all that sort of stuff.
[3300.84] Tony: Nice.
[3303.81] Tony: I should go to a writer.
[3305.65] Jack: I don't want M3 ones.
[3307.41] Jack: I want the ones for the tiny whoop.
[3313.24] Jack: I can't.
[3314.36] Jack: My Google search.
[3315.64] Jack: I don't know.
[3316.12] Tony: I'll speak for in the chat.
[3317.24] Tony: Grommets, tailspins for.
[3321.08] Tony: Wallace and Grommets.
[3324.28] Clive: You want to ask for the last mini rolls.
[3327.32] Clive: Mini rolls rules.
[3329.88] Clive: Because it's done the Birmingham tiny racing.
[3334.28] Clive: Yeah, look.
[3335.8] Jack: Someone.
[3336.84] Jack: Tiny Grommets.
[3338.92] Jack: Apparently.
[3341.0] Jack: There you go.
[3342.28] Jack: Tall.
[3345.28] Jack: If anyone's got a link.
[3346.8] Tony: He's flying a tiny.
[3349.36] Jack: Stickers.
[3350.48] Jack: I 3D printed.
[3354.32] Jack: A hundred mill whoop frame.
[3357.04] Jack: They're nice.
[3358.16] Jack: And I want to put that on there,
[3361.52] Jack: but I lost the Grommets.
[3364.64] Tony: And you need it floating around here.
[3367.76] Jack: Yeah, I need for the mountain.
[3369.84] Jack: I need it for the mountain.
[3372.08] Tony: And if I read.
[3376.08] Jack: It's weird.
[3376.72] Tony: Well, look, we made it to the hour,
[3379.04] Tony: so I don't have to go out on my fake date with.
[3381.84] Tony: Who was it?
[3382.32] Tony: Denise, you say?
[3383.6] Jack: Denise.
[3384.16] Jack: Yeah, Denise.
[3385.36] Tony: So we didn't have to.
[3388.0] Clive: And her brother, the nephews.
[3390.88] Jack: Yeah.
[3391.68] Jack: Clive.
[3392.72] Jack: Yes.
[3393.12] Jack: You were a wonderful guest.
[3395.12] Jack: You didn't say too much,
[3396.88] Jack: which isn't a bad thing really for this show.
[3403.12] Jack: Incriminating or not.
[3406.96] Jack: Yes.
[3407.92] Jack: Thank you for coming on.
[3408.96] Jack: You're welcome back anytime.
[3411.28] Jack: If you want to try and get in the swing of it.
[3414.16] Jack: Come on again.
[3415.44] Jack: Just hanging out.
[3417.12] Jack: Maybe we can get your opinion on things.
[3420.16] Jack: I want to find out what's in those boxes.
[3423.36] Clive: Yeah.
[3424.72] Clive: Clothes.
[3425.12] Jack: It looks like clothes.
[3427.12] Clive: Random junk.
[3428.24] Clive: There is some clothes stuff on top.
[3431.44] Jack: Is there any tiny whoop grommets?
[3434.88] Jack: No.
[3436.88] Clive: No, I've never gone to tiny whoops.
[3440.48] Jack: Thank you, Richard Warwick.
[3442.0] Tony: I had one.
[3443.12] Tony: Richard Warwick from the chat, everyone.
[3446.16] Jack: You're another one that should come on the podcast.
[3449.76] Jack: Thank you to all our wonderful Patreons
[3452.56] Jack: for without you, the show would not exist.
[3455.92] Jack: We love you.
[3456.88] Jack: Hopefully when Cole frees up,
[3459.2] Jack: we'll start going through the video bonus podcast of drone history stuff.
[3467.12] Jack: So that's something to look forward to when Cole is more available.
[3470.96] Jack: You've been joined by Clive.
[3472.56] Jack: He's usually in the chat.
[3474.32] Jack: Goodbye.
[3475.76] Jack: My darling wife, Tony.
[3479.12] Jack: And I've been your host right until I fly.
[3481.12] Jack: Thank you.
[3481.76] Jack: Good night.
[3482.48] Jack: Hopefully everyone's back next week and it relays.
[3484.88] Jack: Thank you.
[3485.2] Jack: Good night.
[3489.44] Jack: Telemetry last.