=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 472 === Title: LDO 472 - There Was A Show (of Sorts) Recorded: 2024-09-12 Hosts: Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Andrew "Frank" Hyams Guest(s): Clive Easton Total audience: 845 Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZT6vh1I6dg); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1915675016-letsdroneout-ldo-472-there-was-a-show-of-sorts.mp3) ===================================== [0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely patrons [6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things [11.36] Jack: we say. [13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to… [14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos! [16.12] Frank: Art Faulkner. [17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer. [19.68] Frank: On with the show. [20.68] Jack: Hello and welcome, you're listening to Let's Drone Out, there is actually a show but it's [57.1] Jack: barely one. [58.1] Jack: Tony's got to leave, I don't know, about 45 minutes going out on a date or something [65.62] Jack: with a lady called Denise. [67.46] Jack: This is close to me. [71.34] Jack: Yeah, I know, I'm joking. [75.18] Jack: Yes, tonight we are joined by the usual listener who has to put up with this crap, Clive FBV, [83.06] Jack: you're our guest tonight. [86.14] Jack: And my darling wife, Tony, and I'm your host right until I fly. [94.06] Jack: Frank's left the country, Steven's, I don't know, on his honeymoon or something, [101.74] Jack: Curry, I don't even know, Curry can't be bothered, and I think Cole's at an air show, [110.46] Jack: I'm not too sure. [111.86] Jack: Everyone's too busy. [112.86] Tony: I know. [113.86] Jack: But Cole's in the chat. [118.42] Jack: So this week, Clive flew and raced at the BDRA, the chance this year, yeah. [129.42] Jack: Yes. [130.42] Jack: How well did you do? [132.42] Clive: 48 out of 50. [135.42] Tony: No! [136.42] Tony: Well, at least she went and did you have fun? [140.62] Tony: Yeah, it was really good fun, yeah. [142.62] Tony: Well, there you go. [144.38] Tony: That's what it's all about, innit? [145.38] Jack: Was it a technical issue, or were you just? [150.1] Clive: Some of it's skill, but some of it, my regulator on my power, my goggles gave up on day one, [157.9] Clive: so I spent a while trying to work out what the problem was, broke my, like literally [163.78] Clive: taking my goggles apart in a marquee, trying to work out what was wrong, borrowed the person [169.34] Clive: I was racing against through qualifying spare goggles, and yeah, we worked it out, it was [174.34] Clive: the power cable, and a friend let me have a power cable for day two, so. [178.34] Jack: Oh, God. [179.34] Jack: I don't know. [180.34] Jack: Typical. [181.34] Jack: What was it? [182.34] Tony: We went to the first ever, ever, ever one, didn't we, Jack? [189.1] Jack: Yes, we did. [190.82] Jack: Was that you racing on your own, or was that, was I racing as well? [196.22] Tony: No, you didn't. [197.42] Tony: You were running a stall. [199.18] Jack: Yeah, I was with, uh, Babbie. [201.82] Tony: Ban, Banning was about that high. [205.06] Jack: I know. [206.06] Jack: I know it's really low, because Todie's not only short, but he's also sat down. [212.14] Tony: So, oh bloody hell. [214.14] Tony: So, how long ago was that, that was 10 years ago, probably, more, maybe? [222.66] Jack: 2015, I think. [223.66] Tony: Was it? [224.66] Jack: No, it's not that high. [225.66] Tony: I wonder what changed. [227.42] Tony: I remember it was just being a big, long, left-handed course, which I quite liked. [233.54] Tony: I bet the weather didn't change, because I think that was in September, wasn't it? [236.74] Tony: And it was crap. [237.74] Tony: What was your weather like, Clive? [240.46] Clive: It was wet, like, really sort of misty rain on the first day for, like, most of the morning. [246.86] Clive: Rained overnight, um, rain first thing on the morning, Sunday, and it was really hot [252.66] Clive: and sunny for the rest of the day on Sunday. [255.22] Tony: It was weird. [256.22] Tony: Why don't they just finish up doing it on a July or something? [260.78] Clive: Well, the season's short enough as it is, isn't it? [263.82] Clive: So, you've got to think, the UK weather's not great, but, uh... [266.98] Clive: No. [267.98] Jack: No. [268.98] Jack: Yeah. [269.98] Jack: Yeah, because you like it or not, you have to have it at the end of the season, so that [275.06] Jack: everyone's done as many races as possible to weed out. [280.3] Jack: Well, well done. [282.3] Clive: I was going to say, it was also the space at Buckminster as well, BMFA Buckminster. [286.22] Clive: It's when they've got a free weekend that you can fit into as well. [290.22] Clive: Oh, yeah. [292.22] Jack: Yeah. [293.22] Jack: And we're low on the pecking order, because we ruined the hobby for them, everyone. [297.22] Tony: Not just me and you. [300.22] Jack: Well, no. [301.22] Jack: Just drone users in general. [304.22] Jack: You doing Gatwick didn't help. [308.14] Jack: And the facilitating building your drone that can fly at night in high winds and is completely [315.14] Jack: waterproof. [316.14] Jack: I don't know how I managed that. [318.5] Jack: I don't know how you managed to fly it and be on a lecture and out show at the same time. [323.14] Tony: I know, that's crazy. [324.14] Jack: But Tony did Gatwick. [326.14] Tony: Yeah, that's what T-shirt says. [329.14] Jack: Well, Clive, you didn't finish last and your goggles are still working. [334.14] Jack: Bonus. [336.06] Clive: Well, they are now. [337.06] Clive: We're about to make a new power cable. [340.06] Jack: I know. [341.06] Jack: They're terrible. [342.06] Jack: What are you running? [343.06] Jack: Fat Sharks? [344.06] Clive: Yeah. [345.06] Clive: Fat Sharks HDO2s with the HD0 module on the front. [350.06] Jack: Ah, OK. [352.06] Jack: Ooh, so you're running HD0. [355.06] Jack: Nice. [356.06] Jack: How are you finding it? [358.06] Clive: Good. [359.06] Clive: Yeah. [360.06] Clive: It's better than analog. [361.06] Clive: Yeah, definitely. [362.06] Jack: Better than analog. [363.86] Jack: You heard it here first. [365.58] Jack: The words of a traitor. [367.74] Jack: That's it. [369.94] Jack: The cause. [370.94] Jack: Analog was there for you at the beginning. [373.3] Tony: Well, yeah. [374.3] Tony: It was there for everyone, Jack. [377.3] Jack: Yeah, I know. [378.3] Jack: I know. [379.3] Jack: We wouldn't be here with that, analog. [382.3] Tony: No. [383.3] Tony: It's people still swear by it. [385.74] Tony: Yeah, I'm still 50-50 on my stuff. [390.66] Tony: I would like the O3 goggles, but I heard they've got a problem as well. [394.78] Tony: But I think there's an update or something. [399.42] Tony: People just kept getting black screens off their FBV and that's it. [404.9] Jack: It's nice to finally have you on the show, Clive, because we've been threatening to get [409.58] Jack: you on here and there, but you had some sort of weird bird sanctuary or something at one [417.3] Jack: point. [418.3] Jack: And it was almost impossible to talk to you. [420.98] Jack: I mean, you are a white Doctor Doolittle. [424.5] Clive: No, that's my wife, not me. [428.34] Jack: Okay. [429.34] Jack: And Clive repping in the background, he's got an Ender-3 set up. [435.5] Clive: And the X-Class on the wall. [437.5] Clive: Yeah, my three-armed X-Class, yeah. [439.98] Clive: Oh, is it down to three? [442.06] Jack: Yeah, with no parts. [444.06] Jack: There's no motors on there either, is there? [446.78] Clive: No, there's nothing on there at the moment. [449.7] Clive: It is bad. [450.7] Clive: Oh, strict. [451.7] Clive: So, yeah, currently strict, waiting for a new frame. [455.7] Clive: Oh, it's super glued on, it would literally fall off. [461.9] Tony: Is Fossil sending you some stuff? [463.98] Clive: Yeah, just waiting for it, so wait for it to sort out. [469.7] Clive: Nice. [470.7] Tony: I've done anything with mine. [474.34] Clive: The newest thing is, obviously, Martin's come out with braces for a racing one. [479.06] Clive: Oh, I see. [480.06] Clive: Is that the smokey? [481.06] Clive: Stiffing the frame up. [482.06] Clive: Yes, it is, yeah. [483.06] Clive: Oh, that is quite a pull. [488.6] Jack: He loves his washing lines, old Fossil. [492.2] Clive: Yeah, so, I'm seeing a six mil carbon, just takes any flex out of the arms, so. [503.12] Clive: Did it have much? [505.6] Clive: You get a little, I think, just from wear and tear, they eventually get a little bit [508.88] Clive: of flex in the arms, so it just gets rid of all of it, so. [512.92] Jack: The lamination. [513.92] Tony: Does it feel much stiffer and harder to fly, or better to fly, or? [519.88] Clive: Yes, there's definitely difference, yeah, with having those braces on. [523.84] Clive: Just feel a bit tighter and locked in, yeah. [526.88] Tony: Yeah, nice. [527.88] Tony: This is my new drone. [529.4] Tony: Look at that little thing. [534.81] Clive: Too much money, Tony. [536.53] Tony: It was 170 quid. [540.37] Tony: I only bought it on its own. [541.93] Tony: I didn't bother buying the fly more. [543.93] Jack: So, you can see what it is. [545.69] Tony: DJI Neo, sorry, for listeners. [549.85] Tony: Look at it, it's the size of my face. [553.97] Tony: It's tiny. [554.97] Tony: It's bigger. [555.97] Tony: It's brilliant. [556.97] Tony: Well, I think it's pretty good, anyway. [558.65] Tony: I've only tested it a few days. [560.85] Tony: It's been charged five times. [562.29] Tony: The claimed 17-minute flight time is completely not a bomb crap. [567.93] Tony: I think that's claimed without popguards on, and inside with no wind whatsoever, and running [575.81] Tony: the battery to zero. [577.97] Tony: But I've only been getting seven minutes at the most, which is pathetic, but enough to [587.21] Tony: do what it's supposed to do, which is social media crap. [591.33] Jack: How does it do the no-prop noise? [596.65] Tony: I don't know. [597.65] Tony: Very good, a bit of tech in there. [599.69] Tony: I do like that. [600.69] Jack: Is it using your phone? [601.69] Tony: Yeah, it's using the phone as a mic, so some software to just listen to you and cut the [610.1] Tony: noise of the drone. [612.14] Jack: So I'm guessing it's using the phone's microphone with the phone's noise cancelling, and then [619.26] Jack: sending the audio to the drone, and putting the video and audio together. [625.58] Jack: What are the files like? [628.58] Tony: There's no memory nodes, it's built in memory of 22 gigs. [635.9] Tony: You don't even have to have it on to transfer files, which is another good thing. [639.5] Tony: You can just plug a Type-C to Type-C into your phone, and it will bring up files straight [648.74] Tony: away, or you can just plug it straight into the computer, you don't even have to turn [651.98] Tony: it on. [652.98] Tony: It has got GPS in this little thing as well, and then two little eyes to look down. [661.34] Tony: One-axis gimbal, but it uses their AI tech to stop the other axis, you know, and they've [667.1] Tony: got in there. [668.1] Tony: What do you call it? [669.1] Tony: Cameras. [670.1] Tony: They're sport cameras or whatever they're called. [671.1] Tony: Like a GoPro, but not a GoPro. [672.1] Tony: I don't know because I don't use them, but I only use GoPro, but I'm thinking about swapping [682.1] Tony: because GoPro, I don't know, I still like my little ones for air-softing and stuff. [691.98] Jack: Yeah, but they're not making them anymore. [695.66] Tony: They're not, they don't, and these batteries are still pretty good in here, and they still [701.1] Tony: will do, I'm shooting 2.3K at airsoft because it gets too hot, because it's strapped to [708.9] Tony: the air, and I'm running around, it gets boiling, I've shot in 4K before, and I get missed behind [715.02] Tony: the screen, or it cuts out because it gets too hot. [719.14] Tony: So I've had to put it down to 2.3K to shoot, and it will still do an hour's filming. [726.1] Tony: So there's still pretty good battery in there, much better than this Hero 10. [731.7] Tony: It's battery on there is rubbish, absolutely rubbish. [736.58] Jack: Yeah, plus all the GoPros are just getting bigger, heavier, weightier beasts. [745.66] Jack: Clive, have you, what's the last GoPro you've bought? [750.38] Jack: Seven black. [752.9] Tony: Yeah, I've got seven as well. [754.62] Jack: Yeah, with the gyro, so it doesn't work with gyro flow. [759.86] Jack: Or have they fixed that now? I don't know. [763.26] Clive: I just use HyperSmooth. [765.78] Tony: Yeah, I think I use this on my drones, the seven. [774.02] Tony: I don't, I use a 10 for camping, vlogging, sort of stuff, and mountain biking because the [780.9] Tony: anti-shape thing on there, the HyperSmooth is really good. [785.3] Tony: But I'm impressed with this, pretty good. [788.74] Tony: I don't know if you've seen any of my videos, I've put a couple on YouTube, [793.46] Tony: of it following me on my mountain bike and stuff. [796.42] Tony: It does a really good job for having no sensors on the front or anything like that. [803.54] Tony: It just literally follows your path as close as it can, and that's how it doesn't hit anything. [810.18] Tony: Obviously, if you rode into a wall, it would, you know, do exactly the same. [814.58] Tony: It's what you've done, but I think that's how it's working. [818.26] Tony: But because I haven't got the flymaw package, I can't connect it to a controller or a screen, [828.74] Tony: like my phone screen. [829.86] Tony: It does connect to my phone, as in you can connect it, just go and it'll fly off. [835.94] Tony: But I haven't got any camera controls because I'd like to lower, I don't know if the colour [844.58] Tony: saturations, you can change that, but I'd like to take the sharpness down a couple of notches [850.74] Tony: because I think it's over sharpened the image. [854.02] Tony: But to be fair, on my 55-inch TV, it doesn't look too bad playing back in 4K. [861.06] Tony: Not brilliant, but it's not really meant for that. [864.74] Tony: It's sort of meant for, I think, Instagram and quick shots and shots and things like that. [872.1] Jack: Can you use an older DJI? [875.78] Tony: There's three controllers that work with it, and my Mini 2 does not work with it. [883.62] Tony: It's Mini 3, I think it's RC controller, two points, I mean, and [892.18] Tony: yeah, not the one that I've got, which is annoying, but for the price, I was just like, [901.06] Tony: yeah, sold it, I'm going to get it. [902.98] Tony: Because all I want it for is when I'm out riding or on holiday or something like that, [907.86] Tony: even though I haven't had a holiday for a few years, excuse me, kayaking, anything like that, [913.86] Tony: just take off from your hand. [915.54] Tony: You don't even need your phone, you can turn it on, and then there's a button on the top [921.54] Tony: and you just go through the different things, droney, follow, all that shimlarky, and then just take off. [931.94] Tony: It's a cool little bit of kit, if you ask me, and I'm enjoying mucking around with it. [938.9] Tony: And it was in the wind on my last video, going up, mountain biking, going up a incline, [947.14] Tony: and it was fighting the wind pretty well. [949.7] Tony: It was a bit leaning over, but footage weren't too bad. [955.14] Jack: I'm just slightly concerned of your riding along, thinking this thing's following you, [961.3] Jack: and then one day something goes wrong, bit of gross branch, bit of really bad wind. [967.94] Tony: You can hear it behind you, it's quite loud, you can imagine the size of the props on it, [972.1] Tony: it's like, it's really quite loud, so you're not going to not hear it behind you. [978.58] Tony: You'll hear it if it falls off, if you know, if it hits the branch, you can probably, [982.9] Tony: you'll hear that, definitely hear it. [986.34] Jack: I'm waiting for it to not happen, and it's like, I don't know where it was, [991.86] Jack: riding back and forth, and there's a pry hole, trying to see the last bit of video that it sent. [1000.18] Clive: Yeah. [1000.5] Jack: I suppose it doesn't DVR to your phone, does it? [1003.86] Clive: No. [1005.3] Clive: Just train Cocoa to go and get it. [1007.86] Tony: Yeah, sniff it out. [1010.26] Tony: Beck it, yeah. [1012.34] Tony: Yeah, I'm quite enjoying the thing, but I need to buy another battery for it, [1018.98] Tony: I think one more battery and that will do, I think they're like 35 quid or something, [1023.86] Tony: not too bad, but it's only a little 2S thing, but 135 grams, it's scarily light, [1032.5] Tony: it's a bit, that's a bit light as in, it could blow away like they said. [1038.66] Tony: There's Littlen, but yeah, it's good. [1048.86] Tony: I'm even thinking about getting a microphone to plug in the bottom of the phone, [1054.54] Tony: so when I'm flying that, I can speak with it there, with a mic there. [1060.06] Jack: What, a little road one or the DJI version? [1063.9] Tony: Well, the DJI ones are so expensive, I found pretty good one, 15.99 or something ridiculous [1069.26] Tony: on there, wasn't it? [1071.66] Jack: She's definitely good. [1076.0] Tony: I don't know. [1077.36] Tony: I'll give it a go and if it's rubbish, you throw it back at Amazon, can't you? [1082.24] Jack: Yeah, I suppose, yeah. [1084.4] Tony: They look quite good. [1086.0] Tony: I've looked at them on YouTube and they don't look too bad. [1091.28] Jack: Right. [1092.26] Jack: So, I, this week, last weekend, I went to Poppin. [1100.98] Tony: I know, I saw photos of you out in the wild, I couldn't believe it. [1105.86] Jack: I know, I, yeah, I mean, I'd done a bit of line of sight, like hovering or, you know, [1115.56] Jack: something or other and, [1118.84] Jack: and, oh, mate, I've just got, I've just got totally screwed. [1126.2] Jack: I got, Frank shared a link for the Google Drive and, guess what? [1136.44] Jack: I don't have access, he's revoked it all. [1140.12] Jack: That's typical. [1141.08] Tony: Are you going to show pictures of you? [1142.92] Jack: Yeah, I mean, I had it all lined up. [1145.08] Tony: I think if you go onto his Instagram, he might have done it, [1147.72] Tony: but I don't know if that was stories or, [1151.4] Jack: Not as good, is it? [1153.64] Tony: No, but I mean, what country is in poems? [1158.04] Jack: I ain't got a clue. [1159.0] Jack: I don't know where Frank is. [1161.08] Tony: He's on an MI5 mission. [1164.04] Tony: He's gone undercover. [1166.84] Tony: Maybe he's in Russia or Serbia or something. [1171.08] Tony: Hardly. [1174.52] Tony: Definitely undercover. [1175.32] Jack: So we're going to, we're going to go back to you, Clive, in a sec. [1181.08] Clive: Okay. [1182.28] Jack: So you better start talking. [1185.16] Jack: You better, you better show some footage. [1190.12] Jack: Hang on. [1190.92] Jack: I've got slow flying. [1192.2] Jack: Yeah. [1194.36] Jack: Well, you know, I don't mind. [1196.12] Jack: I'm grateful. [1197.32] Tony: You know, if you slow flying, we can actually see where the course goes. [1201.56] Tony: Because some of the stuff I've seen, [1204.76] Clive: The A and B finals are so quick. [1208.6] Tony: Yeah. [1209.0] Tony: I watched someone in Australia, though it was live last night, [1212.68] Tony: and I just happened to flick on something. [1215.0] Tony: And they were, they would do some flying. [1218.68] Tony: And the course just seemed like a mess. [1220.84] Tony: It didn't even seem like it was just, [1223.8] Clive: Yes, the Australian nationals is huge. [1226.04] Tony: Yeah. [1226.36] Tony: And it just looked like, I couldn't even see where to go. [1229.64] Tony: It was like, what are you doing? [1230.76] Tony: You there, there, there, there. [1232.2] Tony: It was just, it's like an actual course, like a track or whatever. [1237.4] Tony: It was just, [1238.92] Clive: It's two courses in one. [1240.68] Clive: That's the thing, because the X-Class track as well. [1243.56] Clive: So it's like through parvits, the X-Class track and part of it's the five-inch track. [1247.64] Tony: Oh, it's so confusing. [1250.44] Tony: You'd have to have a walk around for about half an hour to see, [1253.32] Tony: you know, like, I'm just going to walk the track for 30 minutes to see where we're going. [1258.76] Tony: I remember the good old days when it was just, [1260.92] Tony: everything went left. [1263.8] Tony: And you could see, you go around there, over that, maybe through that. [1269.08] Tony: I don't think I've ever done a dive gate at all. [1272.2] Tony: They weren't invented. [1275.96] Tony: They're not that scary, actually. [1279.0] Tony: No, not really, no. [1281.0] Tony: Well, I've never done one of them. [1283.0] Tony: Do you go up and you go down and under, don't you? [1285.64] Tony: You're not. [1286.68] Tony: Or can you do both? [1288.68] Clive: Yeah, you can use the same thing, but they call it a gravity gate if you go [1292.84] Clive: one way and the dive gate if you go the other. [1295.0] Tony: Right, let's see. [1296.84] Tony: Where's the Yeti disappeared to? [1301.64] Tony: Jack, where have you gone? [1305.89] Tony: He's just disappeared, isn't he? [1309.17] Tony: Good eyes, didn't he? [1311.25] Tony: Yep. [1311.81] Tony: Have you got any footage you can show? [1315.81] Clive: I put the YouTube video on in the private chat. [1319.89] Tony: Oh, God. [1320.93] Tony: You're going to have to wait for him to do that because I don't know. [1323.41] Tony: I don't want to present or touch anything because I just will ruin anything, everything. [1330.69] Tony: So where was it held? [1333.41] Clive: Buckminster, BMFA headquarters. [1335.97] Clive: Buckminster? [1337.33] Clive: Yeah. [1338.21] Tony: Nice. [1339.41] Tony: Where is that? [1340.45] Tony: In Buckminster, he's in... [1342.69] Clive: Between Leicester and Grantham. [1345.89] Tony: It's quite far, for me. [1349.01] Tony: You're near that way, aren't you? [1350.29] Tony: How many hours did it take you to get there? [1352.85] Clive: Nearly three hours. [1354.29] Tony: Three hours. [1356.85] Clive: And obviously, it sort of started at eight o'clock in the morning, so I left home at 4am. [1363.81] Tony: Were they on time? [1364.85] Tony: Did they start at eight? [1366.29] Tony: Because how many times I used to go... [1368.13] Clive: Well, checking and stuff did. [1369.65] Clive: Checking actually started because you have to check... [1371.25] Clive: When you have to get there, you have to check in to make sure the fail safe works correctly. [1376.45] Clive: And also, the CAA numbers and all of that stuff is all on there. [1380.29] Clive: So that started early. [1381.09] Tony: Oh, God, you've got to fill those numbers and all that stuff. [1384.61] Clive: But then there's all the technical stuff, like the race directors, [1386.77] Clive: got to make sure their stuff's working. [1388.93] Clive: Cerberus was doing the live stream, so it takes a little bit of time for him to get all uploaded [1395.09] Clive: and stuff, so it never starts when they say it's going to start. [1401.57] Tony: So how many people were there? [1405.73] Tony: 50? [1406.53] Tony: 50, yeah. [1408.93] Tony: Was it 50, cut off 50, or just 50 people when all... [1412.53] Tony: 50 people qualified? [1414.61] Tony: So it is for... [1416.61] Clive: The qualifying is 57 English and Welsh pilots. [1422.69] Clive: I've given a slot. [1425.17] Clive: And then there are guaranteed three spaces for people from the Scottish League, from Scotland. [1431.25] Clive: But the Scottish guys have been traveling down throughout the year to enter the British races, [1437.01] Clive: so the English races and stuff. [1438.45] Clive: So a lot of them all qualified themselves, so they didn't need that. [1443.81] Clive: So they brought an extra three pilots down as well. [1446.61] Clive: They had a really good contingent of the Scottish guys. [1449.09] Clive: They came down. [1451.41] Clive: But yeah, sort of 60 pilots. [1456.21] Clive: Dogs are running around. [1458.29] Clive: Not barking, thankfully. [1460.61] Clive: So yeah, so they go off the top 60 qualifiers and they have 10 reserve spaces. [1467.57] Clive: So up to like 70th, you could possibly get selected. [1471.57] Tony: So there's still a lot of sitting around. [1474.45] Tony: I remember it used to have been hours sometimes between races. [1478.93] Clive: It's about 45 minutes to an hour between races. [1482.77] Clive: Just don't say there's nine rounds to get through, so. [1488.05] Tony: Yeah, I used to hate that. [1489.81] Tony: Just getting ready, getting your goals, your hearts beating, your fingers are going big, [1497.09] Tony: two, one, beep, and then props are on, wrong way around. [1500.13] Tony: You flop over like that and you're done. [1501.89] Tony: And then I was like, oh, I've got to wait another hour now. [1505.25] Tony: Yeah, yeah. [1507.89] Clive: I went for the social, not for so much the flying, [1510.69] Clive: because I knew I wasn't going to come anywhere beyond the bottom end of the table. [1517.25] Tony: As long as you go and enjoy it, I suppose. [1519.89] Clive: Yeah, that's the main thing. [1520.93] Clive: I just wanted to go. [1521.57] Clive: That's what I just tried to qualify just to go for the experience of it. [1524.77] Clive: So. [1525.25] Tony: Is there many same faces still there? [1529.89] Tony: Is it quite a new lot coming through the ranks? [1532.29] Tony: Is there a new FBV pilots out there, new youngsters? [1537.01] Tony: Or is there still some old boys still going? [1539.89] Clive: Yeah, there's still some old ones out there. [1541.41] Clive: You might know Steve Rammer-Rhodes. [1543.09] Clive: Yeah, oh, yeah. [1544.45] Clive: Yeah, he's still there, middle of the table. [1549.81] Clive: But yeah, obviously, the top end pilots are all in their late teens, early 20s. [1555.89] Tony: They're all gamers, aren't they? [1558.53] Clive: You had more of that game era, yeah. [1560.61] Tony: Yeah, that's PlayStation, Xbox, all stuff. [1564.53] Tony: I mean, I always was. [1567.01] Tony: But these kids just don't like that, don't they? [1572.53] Clive: Yeah, so pretty much all the top end, all the ones that are off to China [1579.09] Clive: later this year, 13 degree. [1581.57] Tony: I thought there's some big Chinese thing going on again. [1585.65] Tony: Another one. [1587.17] Tony: That'll be exciting. [1589.09] Tony: You know, why don't you manage them, Clive? [1592.21] Clive: That's gone to KPV, Karl. [1595.25] Clive: I don't know. [1595.81] Clive: This year, he's the team manager. [1597.73] Clive: Do you know him? [1598.77] Clive: See a good one? [1600.13] Clive: Yeah, he's a good guy, yeah. [1601.73] Clive: He's been flying for years. [1603.81] Clive: So this track was designed by Bonner, or Bonner, I don't pronounce his name. [1610.77] Clive: So it was quite an easy one. [1613.33] Clive: So it wasn't anybody in the UK. [1615.09] Clive: Nobody, none of the pilots had an advantage. [1618.45] Clive: Because on some events, it's a pilot who's racing it that has designed it. [1622.45] Clive: So they have a slight advantage. [1626.13] Tony: This is probably the speed I'd go if I joined back up. [1632.98] Jack: Cheering at trick. [1634.74] Jack: Should do, it's good fun. [1636.74] Jack: I'd get lost. [1638.66] Tony: I don't find it fun anymore. [1641.46] Tony: It was fun, I think, a few years back. [1646.1] Tony: But I don't know, because I've done it for so long, I did it for so long. [1653.24] Tony: I just... [1653.88] Jack: You're doing well, Clive. [1656.04] Jack: I couldn't do this. [1658.04] Jack: And lots of diving, jumping through gates. [1661.64] Jack: Sort of like back and forth. [1663.56] Jack: But the guys at the top end of the table, what are they like? [1668.44] Jack: Were they, was it just like a total blur? [1670.76] Jack: You just hear it's a blur and you don't know where they're going. [1672.84] Tony: Yeah, they're pretty much a blur. [1674.76] Clive: Like my fastest was three laps in, there you go, I make a wrong flight there. [1680.28] Clive: But my fastest, on this one, I think it was like three laps in, one minute 40 something. [1686.28] Clive: The top pilots are doing three laps in about 40 seconds. [1691.8] Jack: No way. [1692.6] Jack: That's mental. [1693.64] Jack: Yeah, they are. [1694.84] Jack: So what's that, like 20 seconds a lap? [1699.0] Clive: Bless them, that. [1699.96] Clive: Yeah, 17 seconds. [1703.16] Clive: That's crazy. [1704.76] Clive: Yeah, I don't know how they do it. [1708.12] Clive: The odd thing about the way they do the spotting in the UK is that when it comes to the finals, [1715.08] Clive: the slowest pilots have to spot the fastest pilots. [1721.24] Clive: So it's literally, you sit there and you're like, right, okay, I've got to not blink [1725.72] Clive: for the next minute. [1728.28] Clive: Because if you like, it's just, it's amazing to watch them. [1733.16] Clive: But ask me if I, if they took a flight, right? [1735.88] Clive: It's like, not a clue. [1738.04] Clive: They're through, they're through it faster than I can actually comprehend what they're doing. [1741.72] Tony: Yeah. [1742.28] Tony: Or saying some of it is absolutely mental. [1747.48] Jack: So this is my presentation of being at Pop the Mayor show. [1754.44] Jack: All photos are taken by Frank, our Lord and Master. [1759.4] Jack: That's Chris motherf***ing G, isn't it? [1762.04] Jack: Yes. [1763.72] Jack: That is the slag indeed. [1766.76] Jack: Um, notice we've both a rock in crossfire. [1776.12] Jack: Yeah, green glows on our, on our lovely transmitters. [1785.24] Jack: And we've got, you know, Chris G's, everyone's kind of familiar [1789.4] Jack: with it now. [1790.52] Jack: His control flap on all axis, uh, tricopter. [1797.48] Jack: We don't know how he sets it up. [1799.8] Jack: I've got no idea what the mix is. [1805.8] Jack: I don't even know if it is beat a flight or if it's like, [1809.56] Jack: I'll do pilot or something. [1811.48] Jack: I haven't got a clue, but I don't know how he does it. [1815.0] Jack: I went there. [1816.44] Jack: They didn't, they weren't doing any racing. [1819.48] Jack: They were kind of like fun flying with a track, uh, for the tiny groups. [1824.6] Jack: And that's behind us. [1826.68] Jack: And, um, it was all like netted off and everything. [1830.36] Jack: Um, at the end of the day, when like it was all finished, everyone went home. [1835.48] Jack: We, um, we, we kind of like went to the other end of the tent. [1840.68] Jack: Uh, Frank stood in the way of the delicate boat display that was left [1847.72] Jack: on the tables unattended and we were like, Frank, can you stand there? [1852.52] Jack: So that if you get hit, you get hit rather than the expensive boats. [1860.52] Jack: And, uh, Frank did do that. [1864.68] Jack: Thank God. [1866.12] Jack: Um, yeah, so that was, that was like lovely of him. [1871.08] Jack: Um, yeah, so we just kind of have a little bit of a hover really. [1875.24] Jack: And then, um, over there, they had a drift track. [1880.12] Jack: Yeah, man. [1881.64] Jack: And, uh, we kind of like wandered over and we were like, can we have a go? [1886.92] Jack: And they were like, yeah, sure. [1888.68] Jack: And, uh, they gave, they, they gave us a go, uh, towards the end. [1895.08] Jack: And we were, we were there for, I dunno, hours, just like drifting around a track. [1904.36] Jack: And I tell you what, when you don't have fly in the equation, oh my God, [1911.08] Jack: a two S battery lasts forever. [1914.6] Jack: You know, it was just like, you kind of go, you know, you're not. [1920.52] Tony: One motor, isn't it? [1922.52] Jack: Yeah. [1923.08] Jack: One brushless motor. [1925.48] Jack: You know, like you'd ask them like, how much do these cost? [1928.2] Jack: And like, it's basically about a thousand pounds per model for the car. [1935.72] Jack: Yeah. [1935.96] Clive: Really? [1936.76] Clive: It's mad. [1938.52] Jack: Yeah. [1939.96] Jack: Big old expensive brushless motor. [1942.52] Jack: It's got, it's got like a special gyro in there. [1947.08] Jack: Like, I don't know. [1948.68] Jack: I think it would be quite cheap. [1952.04] Jack: Probably because it's not all open source stuff. [1955.64] Tony: Yeah. [1955.88] Tony: But tires will slide easy or something. [1960.36] Jack: Yeah. [1960.68] Tony: You think done. [1963.64] Jack: Yeah. [1964.12] Jack: I don't know. [1965.08] Jack: Like, you know, no big, big expensive surveys. [1969.4] Jack: I haven't got a clue, but I mean, that's what he was telling us. [1974.52] Jack: So who knows? [1976.36] Jack: I don't know. [1977.72] Jack: But Frank took some lovely photos. [1981.48] Frank: This episode was recorded in front of a live online audience, [1984.68] Frank: downloaded and edited to make sense when it played audio only, [1988.2] Frank: censored to please the iTunes people, hosted on the internet, [1991.08] Frank: forwarded through to your podcast provider, [1992.92] Frank: downloaded, playing on your device and is now playing in your ears. [1996.68] Frank: All thanks to our Patreons. [1998.76] Frank: Consider joining them and you'll also get other online benefits. [2002.2] Frank: Find out more at patreon.com forward slash let's drone out. [2007.32] Jack: Here's the track. [2008.76] Jack: One thing I did really find funny loads of LED track and like LED gates and that is all lovely [2017.56] Jack: lit up and to help with rejection and aiming the receiver that picks up the spike in [2031.88] Jack: the transmission for the timing. [2035.32] Jack: They had to put it in a saucepan. [2037.64] Jack: So you had this big fancy LED track with like loads of drones flying around and the yeah, [2045.16] Jack: a sort of that's like obviously being used to camping. [2048.52] Jack: It's got like a dirty burnt bottom. [2052.92] Jack: Yeah, that was we, you know, it was just like, [2057.88] Jack: you know, you got the car guys and they're like, [2061.32] Jack: racing all their cars and they're looking pretty smart and swanky. [2065.8] Jack: And we're over here with a saucepan. [2071.88] Tony: Some outside stuff as well. [2073.64] Jack: Yeah. [2074.04] Jack: So they had like a little sort of like RC display. [2078.28] Jack: I didn't get up and go see that. [2084.52] Jack: But yeah. [2087.24] Jack: Yeah. [2088.36] Jack: Yeah, I had smoke, you know, looks like there's a bit of 3D flying there. [2093.32] Tony: Typical umbrella in the shop because it's an FBV event. [2097.4] Tony: So why would it be dry? [2099.96] Jack: I know. [2102.68] Jack: There is another photo in my WhatsApp. [2106.6] Tony: I can't believe you went out, Jones. [2108.44] Tony: It's amazing. [2110.28] Tony: Why? [2112.92] Tony: You don't go out a lot. [2114.2] Tony: And you probably drove by my house and didn't even come in and say hello. [2117.56] Tony: Give me a hug or anything. [2119.88] Jack: I don't know. [2120.44] Jack: I just assumed that you were on airsoft. [2125.56] Tony: Was it a Sunday Saturday? [2129.4] Tony: Why only airsoft on Sunday? [2132.28] Jack: Oh, yeah. [2134.28] Jack: Oh, this might be a complete disaster. [2137.88] Clive: But it's a shame that pop comes on that same weekend. [2143.16] Clive: Would have must have gone there. [2144.52] Clive: So it's always a fun event to pop them in that. [2148.36] Tony: Yeah, it's not a million miles away. [2150.6] Tony: Well, it's not. [2151.64] Tony: It's about an hour and 20 for me, I think. [2155.88] Clive: Yeah, it's about the same for me. [2159.8] Tony: Yeah, it's about 100 miles. [2162.28] Jack: And here's a photo of the tricopter and it's upside down. [2170.44] Jack: Chris G flipped it. [2173.48] Jack: Nice. [2174.2] Jack: So and so, yeah, props off to Chris G. [2183.4] Jack: No, he didn't. [2184.68] Jack: And get this. [2186.84] Jack: He flipped his one as well. [2191.0] Jack: He was like, this is either going to explode. [2195.88] Tony: It did do it. [2196.92] Jack: It did do it. [2197.64] Jack: It did it in both axis as well. [2200.84] Jack: So, yeah, like it's like least stable axis. [2211.48] Jack: So I'm well in practice, man. [2213.24] Jack: I'm just like, Chris G always knocking it out of the park. [2218.92] Tony: I do love it. [2219.96] Tony: Are you cheating on him with me? [2222.68] Tony: No. [2223.56] Tony: Okay. [2225.0] Jack: No, you are my only wife. [2227.8] Tony: I don't know. [2230.68] Tony: Why do I play along with this? [2232.84] Tony: I don't know. [2233.48] Jack: It's funny. [2237.8] Jack: You're out tonight with that hussy Denise. [2240.68] Jack: I know you are. [2241.72] Tony: What is this? [2242.44] Tony: What are you getting me? [2246.04] Jack: I thought if we said you were on a day, maybe we could finish early [2249.72] Jack: because we'll probably clearly run out of stuff to talk about. [2253.24] Jack: Poor Clive's like dying of anxiety over there. [2256.6] Jack: He's like, Oh my God. [2258.52] Jack: I hate talking on a podcast. [2261.72] Jack: It's so much better tuning in and laughing at their pathetic little lives. [2268.12] Clive: It's different this side. [2269.16] Clive: Yeah. [2270.6] Jack: It's hard, isn't it? [2271.8] Jack: It is. [2272.28] Jack: Yeah. [2272.6] Jack: So hard. [2273.96] Jack: Look how ready you are. [2275.88] Clive: Like, yeah, yeah. [2281.32] Tony: It's all sunny and such a lovely weather. [2285.32] Tony: Oh yeah. [2286.12] Jack: England. [2286.84] Jack: Yeah. [2290.92] Jack: It took two years to get Frank to say a whole paragraph. [2296.04] Jack: Remember that time? [2297.32] Tony: Yeah. [2298.12] Tony: And there's me. [2299.16] Tony: I think I've stripped off for money. [2301.4] Tony: I've done it from the bath. [2304.04] Clive: Yeah, I know. [2306.04] Tony: We got drunk. [2307.72] Tony: Yeah, got drunk. [2309.24] Tony: Also, I don't care what people think of me. [2311.64] Tony: Yeah, well, you get them all. [2312.68] Tony: You don't care. [2313.32] Tony: You don't really know the big five zero is coming. [2322.68] Jack: It is on its way. [2324.28] Jack: What's happening, man? [2325.56] Jack: Did you buy Oasis tickets to relive your youth? [2329.8] Tony: I can't stand them. [2333.0] Tony: I'd only buy them to make some money. [2336.76] Tony: No, I did. [2337.72] Tony: I did try to book a whole one of DJ. [2342.2] Tony: And then the DJ was more dyslexic and stupid than me, [2347.16] Tony: because he said, I'll send you a text to say it's definitely booked. [2354.04] Tony: And he sent a text saying it's definitely not booked. [2358.84] Tony: And I just thought, oh, sorry, I'll give up. [2360.68] Tony: And then he rang up like literally two weeks ago and went, [2364.44] Tony: so are we going ahead with all this party there? [2367.16] Tony: And I was like, what? [2368.28] Tony: I said, the message he sent said not. [2372.28] Tony: And he said, you know, I'm dyslexic idiot. [2374.68] Tony: I got it round and I'm meant to say, yes, we're doing it. [2378.28] Tony: And I was just like, to be honest, [2380.04] Tony: I've completely just given up and forgot all about it. [2383.32] Tony: I can't be bothered. [2384.28] Tony: So no party. [2386.04] Tony: I don't think I'm going to do anything. [2389.08] Tony: I know it's not. [2389.96] Tony: I know it's quite big. [2391.88] Jack: You can't sit there and cry. [2394.44] Jack: Well, I don't know. [2402.6] Tony: I might go for a ride or something after they off. [2405.48] Tony: I don't think. [2405.96] Tony: When is it? [2406.52] Tony: Is it a Tuesday or something crap? [2408.2] Jack: What about curry? [2409.56] Jack: For old time's sake. [2411.4] Tony: Yeah, I might go out and do something like that. [2413.64] Tony: I would like to have a party, but it's too late. [2416.36] Tony: And another reason, three of my best girl mates, [2421.32] Tony: all away on the date that I was going to do it as well. [2424.12] Tony: So yeah, so I just didn't bother. [2430.04] Tony: I could do something a bit later on in October, I suppose. [2433.32] Tony: It doesn't have to be on my actual birthday, does it? [2436.44] Tony: But I would like to get everyone together in the same room [2438.68] Tony: and have some beers and a bit of a dance and stuff. [2441.72] Jack: A lot of you, you're going to have to come down for this. [2446.6] Tony: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [2447.8] Tony: Everyone just come. [2449.32] Tony: If you know me, you can turn up. [2450.76] Tony: But, as I say, I haven't actually done anything yet. [2456.2] Jack: It could be a complete disaster. [2457.72] Tony: I can't hear Tony's house. [2460.52] Tony: Yeah, you could have fit five people in here, [2462.6] Tony: didn't I? [2463.0] Tony: Fifty. [2465.94] Jack: Well, most of your girl mates are away, so. [2468.1] Tony: Well, although not on that date I was doing it, [2471.14] Tony: it was like 20. [2472.9] Tony: I think I was booking the pool and the DJ for the 26th of September [2480.66] Tony: and they're all away. [2482.42] Tony: And it was like six and a half hundred quid and I thought, [2485.46] Tony: that's bloody flight somewhere. [2487.7] Tony: If I don't book a party, I could just fly somewhere with that money. [2492.1] Tony: So, I don't know. [2493.3] Tony: I might just bugger off instead. [2498.15] Jack: You'll, you know, you'll see. [2501.27] Jack: I wonder where you'll go. [2504.55] Tony: I'm going far away if I go. [2508.8] Jack: Back to Texas. [2510.96] Jack: All ye and no ha. [2513.28] Tony: The other way. [2514.64] Tony: The other way on the planet. [2518.24] Jack: Russia. [2520.32] Tony: That's the direct. [2521.2] Tony: No, not really that direction. [2522.72] Tony: Down a bit. [2524.8] Tony: Ukraine. [2526.64] Tony: Down a bit more. [2529.6] Tony: But it's quite far away. [2532.32] Tony: Anyway, come on. [2533.44] Tony: Where's my spare time? [2536.16] Tony: Oh, near. [2536.96] Tony: It's very near Taiwan. [2538.88] Tony: That's all I'm saying. [2542.68] Tony: My lips are sealed. [2544.44] Jack: He's going to tie and he's going to get himself. [2547.0] Jack: He's like, I'm 50 going to get me a tie bird. [2550.44] Jack: Tie wife. [2551.96] Tony: Nearly. [2555.92] Tony: Yes. [2556.48] Tony: Quite spot on. [2557.44] Tony: How we get, how's our divorce going to go? [2559.6] Tony: Can I just, we'll shoot just by saying we're divorced. [2563.36] Jack: Yeah. [2564.0] Jack: I mean, if you, if you get a proper wife, then I guess it's nullified. [2569.76] Jack: Thank you. [2571.2] Jack: No worries. [2572.48] Jack: I'm taking the dog. [2574.08] Tony: No, no. [2575.44] Tony: I'm staying for a go-go. [2578.88] Tony: Yeah. [2579.04] Tony: Custody battle for cocoa. [2581.28] Jack: Yeah. [2581.6] Jack: My half of the house. [2584.08] Tony: You haven't done anything to deserve her, Jack. [2586.96] Tony: That will be my argument. [2589.92] Clive: Jack, I put another link in the chat, private chat, which is the B finals winner. [2595.92] Clive: So you can have a look at fast one. [2599.28] Clive: Yes. [2599.76] Jack: Thank you for generating content, Clive. [2602.72] Tony: I probably want to talk about my birthday. [2606.24] Jack: Do you know what? [2608.16] Jack: The video has ended before I could even stream it. [2611.76] Jack: That's how quick it is. [2613.76] Jack: Jesus Christ. [2615.12] Jack: I don't even have to pause it. [2616.96] Tony: And this is B finals. [2618.64] Tony: It's not even a final. [2620.0] Tony: Yes. [2621.52] Tony: Steve is usually. [2622.72] Clive: No, that's one. [2628.4] Clive: He's much quicker. [2630.16] Clive: Steve missed the first half of Saturday because he was at a wedding. [2634.48] Clive: I believe he was walking his aunt down the aisle. [2637.92] Clive: He turned up in his wedding regalia. [2640.64] Clive: So properly posh shoes and stuff. [2644.96] Clive: And he actually ended up under quite a bit of pressure. [2648.56] Clive: Obviously, it's all done, but you get your fastest three. [2653.76] Clive: So it's like there's like 50% and he hadn't done 50% of the overall amount of [2660.32] Clive: heat with three laps until the very last he had four with two heats left to go. [2669.44] Clive: And he was actually below me in the qualifying. [2673.28] Clive: That made sense at that point. [2675.84] Clive: So we had a little bit of balance there of like saying, [2677.84] Clive: what on earth are you doing? [2678.88] Clive: Why are you below me? [2680.88] Clive: So, but yeah, if you had two pressure rounds where he had to get his three laps in. [2686.56] Tony: I don't know where they're going. [2687.84] Tony: It's just like flying around some gates. [2690.08] Tony: It could be freestyling for all I know. [2693.76] Clive: So I think he was actually doing, he does five laps on this one. [2697.52] Clive: So he does five laps in about a time. [2699.44] Clive: I took to do three. [2702.64] Jack: So he had a bit of a, he doesn't even crash slow. [2707.92] Tony: I don't know. [2708.48] Tony: When he's crashes, I like, did he hit the ground or what? [2711.44] Tony: I don't think no way. [2712.72] Tony: Yeah, this, this week, I could never get back into it now. [2719.52] Tony: I'd be like granny Tony going around. [2726.48] Tony: Couldn't do this. [2727.2] Jack: I mean, that is rapid, isn't it? [2731.76] Clive: They're all just so smooth as well at the top end. [2736.24] Tony: Yeah. [2736.48] Tony: It's just like, it's just like they flick it and it's into the next gate. [2742.0] Tony: Ready. [2742.56] Clive: Yeah. [2743.04] Tony: They just know where they're going, didn't they? [2746.16] Clive: Yeah. [2746.4] Clive: I think some of them do just fly a muscle memory over. [2748.72] Clive: Yeah. [2749.2] Tony: Actually, I did one day when I was out practicing on my own, [2755.6] Tony: when I used to go up the field, I got into some state of mind where I could, [2761.92] Tony: I remember feeling that I could do that. [2764.56] Tony: And I lost it quite quickly after that. [2766.48] Tony: I don't know why I should have just carried on practicing, I suppose. [2769.36] Tony: But yeah, it was, it was muscle memory. [2774.4] Tony: And then you can work on that and just get quicker and quicker and quicker. [2778.16] Tony: And I suppose that's how these guys keep going. [2783.2] Tony: But for me, it's the waiting between races, especially if you crash out within the first [2792.0] Tony: 10 seconds and you have to wait an hour until you get back up and all that lot. [2796.88] Tony: And then it was always a two day event as well, wasn't it? [2799.76] Tony: So as you can see in the background, it's just a bit fun. [2804.8] Tony: Yeah. [2806.56] Clive: So yeah, we had the obviously the legendary Matt Andrews commentating with Cerberus. [2812.8] Tony: I guess I reckon it was him and his voice. [2819.75] Clive: A really genuinely nice guy. [2821.35] Clive: So even when he wasn't competent, he was wandering around chatting to us all. [2824.39] Clive: So is he American or English? [2829.11] Clive: English. [2829.67] Clive: Yeah, he does the DCL and stuff. [2832.39] Tony: Yeah, he goes over there, doesn't he? [2835.35] Tony: Does he get paid to do that? [2837.43] Tony: I take it he gets paid to do that over there. [2839.03] Tony: Does he get paid over here? [2842.31] Clive: I would guess so. [2843.19] Clive: Couldn't tell you. [2843.67] Clive: I wouldn't like to guess how much he does get paid or doesn't get paid. [2850.07] Tony: How much does it cost to do a race like that now? [2853.43] Tony: How much do you have to put up? [2855.83] Tony: So championships was 60 pound entry. [2859.11] Tony: 60 quid a year. [2860.47] Tony: Yeah. [2861.27] Tony: That's two days. [2862.15] Tony: And then what do you have to pay extra for camping? [2865.35] Tony: No, camping was included on that one. [2867.99] Tony: Okay, that's not too bad, is it? [2870.31] Tony: 30 quid a day. [2876.31] Jack: I know. [2877.03] Jack: I do miss doing all that stuff for you. [2879.11] Jack: It was quite nice being in the pit crew. [2882.07] Jack: At Pop'em with you two and fixing stuff. [2887.11] Tony: Yes, you literally took my ex-glossing part and put it back together in about a half hour. [2891.75] Jack: Yeah, it would have been... [2893.11] Tony: I've got a time map somewhere if you're doing it. [2895.51] Jack: Yeah, maybe you need to swing by and get me Clive, [2899.51] Jack: and then you wouldn't have to take your fat shark goggles apart. [2904.55] Clive: Swing by. [2905.19] Clive: Completely the right wrong direction. [2908.55] Jack: Yeah, I know. [2911.91] Tony: They used to be down here, though, didn't they? [2914.55] Tony: When it all first started, 10 years ago, when we all into this FPV supermarket, [2921.11] Tony: it was everything was down here. [2922.79] Tony: We had the first... [2924.63] Tony: We had the Dom organized it. [2927.11] Tony: It was all down here, wasn't it? [2928.15] Tony: All down south at Hidden Valley and... [2930.47] Jack: Yeah, Mini Air Show and everything. [2932.47] Tony: Yeah, Mini Air Show. [2933.51] Tony: And there was just everything down here. [2935.91] Tony: I think my thingies are falling apart. [2943.41] Clive: Well, Tony, I think someone's trying to start a racing club in Stains, so... [2948.13] Tony: Stains? [2949.41] Clive: Yes. [2950.69] Tony: That means I'll have to go over the river and pay. [2955.11] Tony: Stains are massive. [2956.47] Tony: Westside. [2959.35] Tony: No, too far... [2961.27] Tony: I don't even pay for my flying field anymore. [2964.39] Tony: That's how much I've flown. [2966.95] Jack: Yeah. [2967.59] Tony: I think, Jack, you'll have to come down to my house one day, [2970.07] Tony: and we'll literally go through every single drone to see if they work. [2975.03] Jack: I'll have to dust them off. [2977.43] Jack: Yeah, but you need to be in a field to do field testing. [2982.95] Tony: Ah, we're doing McFrank on. [2987.83] Jack: I know my repair equipment and stuff's all here. [2993.51] Tony: All right, I'll come to you, [2994.47] Tony: and then we'll take out one by one over to a park or something. [2999.03] Jack: Yeah. [3000.79] Jack: We have got a nice walking distance. [3004.39] Jack: Park where we could... [3007.27] Jack: And we need to sort out my big X-Class as well. [3011.11] Tony: Yeah, both of them. [3012.95] Tony: I don't know what's wrong with either of them now. [3015.99] Tony: One flies but flips over on its own, [3017.99] Tony: and the other one arms, and that's it. [3022.48] Tony: So, I don't know. [3024.24] Tony: Now, I don't know how it can arm, [3025.84] Tony: and then you press the throttle, and nothing happens. [3028.96] Tony: It's very strange. [3032.5] Jack: Is that the battery's toast? [3034.58] Tony: No. [3037.65] Tony: I don't know why it flipped. [3038.77] Tony: It went into the ground when I flew. [3041.25] Tony: I don't know if it was me or... [3043.73] Tony: It was a loss of power, weren't it? [3045.09] Tony: It was a loss of power, which I thought the battery was, [3048.13] Tony: but we got back and tested it, and it was all right. [3050.85] Tony: So, then after that, it just didn't... [3054.45] Tony: It doesn't throttle, so I don't know what happened. [3057.49] Jack: Yeah, but you need to load test the battery. [3063.81] Jack: Because... [3065.49] Tony: I could probably start the Integra on one of them. [3070.53] Tony: I started it the other day on a 4S, 5,000 milliamp. [3074.29] Tony: I was like, Bruce, we ain't going to go to the pub in the car [3077.65] Tony: because it's nearly run out of battery, [3079.73] Tony: and then I got my batteries out, and I went, [3082.29] Tony: yeah, you'll be all right. [3083.41] Tony: Just hold that on there and that on there, [3085.25] Tony: and it literally started on the key. [3088.21] Tony: Just went vroom. [3091.73] Jack: Oh, my God. [3092.61] Jack: You ended up taking the white coat. [3093.33] Jack: I don't recommend that because it's on the higher end [3097.89] Jack: of what the electronics can handle. [3103.41] Clive: Yeah, the 4S on storage charge is fine. [3108.29] Jack: No, he leaves a light fully charged or some ****. [3111.33] Jack: I don't know. [3112.13] Tony: No, no, no. [3114.21] Tony: I'm hoping they're all right. [3116.37] Tony: But yeah, I've lost enthusiasm for flying. [3121.01] Tony: I'm never not going to fly ever again. [3124.29] Tony: It's just all that infusion. [3126.29] Tony: It was exciting years ago, and now it's just, [3129.81] Tony: you know, when you do, I don't know, [3131.65] Tony: when you do something for so long, [3132.93] Tony: you just get bored of it and do something else. [3136.93] Tony: But oh, I will fly again properly, [3140.77] Tony: but probably not right. [3142.77] Tony: Just, you know, make some nice videos again, [3145.97] Tony: maybe next summer. [3147.09] Tony: I don't know. [3149.09] Tony: Hopefully some more X-Class racing next year. [3151.41] Tony: Maybe, maybe, maybe. [3155.97] Tony: I don't know. [3156.53] Tony: I'd have to take a trip down to Jackson [3158.37] Tony: and see if we can get them both up and running. [3161.73] Jack: Yeah, we could do that one day. [3164.21] Jack: Yeah, I've got some theories that like, [3167.01] Jack: what's wrong, but you just never know, do you? [3172.85] Tony: No, no. [3175.89] Tony: We'll have to go. [3176.77] Tony: There'll be a lot of testing. [3179.65] Tony: A lot. [3181.49] Jack: But I've, do you reckon you could ever make it down here? [3185.89] Jack: Sunny Brighton for a weekend or so, [3189.09] Jack: for the weather goes completely tits. [3193.09] Tony: I think it's already gone, isn't it? [3195.09] Tony: Like literally last week it started [3197.49] Tony: and summer just ended like that. [3200.29] Tony: And then it rained, what did it rain? [3202.53] Tony: Thursday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday. [3205.01] Tony: Four days in a row. [3208.29] Clive: The summer is gone. [3210.13] Jack: Yeah. [3212.21] Jack: I need, I need some help. [3215.25] Jack: What are the keywords for the gummies [3219.25] Jack: that hold a tiny whoop in? [3224.53] Jack: Do you know what I mean? [3225.41] Jack: They're like the gummies that go into the PCB, [3228.37] Jack: the holder 1.5 mil screw or bolt. [3236.69] Tony: Did anyone know? [3237.97] Jack: What are the keywords on eBay? [3241.25] Tony: Gummies, tiny whoop, flight controller, gummies, whoop, [3249.3] Tony: whoop gummies, whoop, I don't know. [3254.18] Jack: I am completely lost without drone junkie. [3264.92] Tony: Is there anyone left? [3267.48] Tony: Because I don't even know if Menace is about. [3270.6] Tony: I should have a chat to him [3272.12] Tony: and just speak to old Greg and say hello. [3275.24] Tony: I haven't spoken to him for ages [3276.28] Tony: and I had to throw one of my Menace t-shirts [3278.76] Tony: in the bin to help warn it. [3281.72] Jack: He doesn't answer. [3282.68] Jack: He doesn't respond to anyone. [3285.0] Jack: Does he not? [3286.36] Jack: No, like we've. [3288.68] Tony: Does he still? [3289.72] Tony: I tried ringing him. [3291.56] Tony: As in. [3292.6] Jack: Yeah, he's still on Facebook. [3294.52] Jack: He's gone to like. [3298.44] Jack: Yeah, raving and all that sort of stuff. [3300.84] Tony: Nice. [3303.81] Tony: I should go to a writer. [3305.65] Jack: I don't want M3 ones. [3307.41] Jack: I want the ones for the tiny whoop. [3313.24] Jack: I can't. [3314.36] Jack: My Google search. [3315.64] Jack: I don't know. [3316.12] Tony: I'll speak for in the chat. [3317.24] Tony: Grommets, tailspins for. [3321.08] Tony: Wallace and Grommets. [3324.28] Clive: You want to ask for the last mini rolls. [3327.32] Clive: Mini rolls rules. [3329.88] Clive: Because it's done the Birmingham tiny racing. [3334.28] Clive: Yeah, look. [3335.8] Jack: Someone. [3336.84] Jack: Tiny Grommets. [3338.92] Jack: Apparently. [3341.0] Jack: There you go. [3342.28] Jack: Tall. [3345.28] Jack: If anyone's got a link. [3346.8] Tony: He's flying a tiny. [3349.36] Jack: Stickers. [3350.48] Jack: I 3D printed. [3354.32] Jack: A hundred mill whoop frame. [3357.04] Jack: They're nice. [3358.16] Jack: And I want to put that on there, [3361.52] Jack: but I lost the Grommets. [3364.64] Tony: And you need it floating around here. [3367.76] Jack: Yeah, I need for the mountain. [3369.84] Jack: I need it for the mountain. [3372.08] Tony: And if I read. [3376.08] Jack: It's weird. [3376.72] Tony: Well, look, we made it to the hour, [3379.04] Tony: so I don't have to go out on my fake date with. [3381.84] Tony: Who was it? [3382.32] Tony: Denise, you say? [3383.6] Jack: Denise. [3384.16] Jack: Yeah, Denise. [3385.36] Tony: So we didn't have to. [3388.0] Clive: And her brother, the nephews. [3390.88] Jack: Yeah. [3391.68] Jack: Clive. [3392.72] Jack: Yes. [3393.12] Jack: You were a wonderful guest. [3395.12] Jack: You didn't say too much, [3396.88] Jack: which isn't a bad thing really for this show. [3403.12] Jack: Incriminating or not. [3406.96] Jack: Yes. [3407.92] Jack: Thank you for coming on. [3408.96] Jack: You're welcome back anytime. [3411.28] Jack: If you want to try and get in the swing of it. [3414.16] Jack: Come on again. [3415.44] Jack: Just hanging out. [3417.12] Jack: Maybe we can get your opinion on things. [3420.16] Jack: I want to find out what's in those boxes. [3423.36] Clive: Yeah. [3424.72] Clive: Clothes. [3425.12] Jack: It looks like clothes. [3427.12] Clive: Random junk. [3428.24] Clive: There is some clothes stuff on top. [3431.44] Jack: Is there any tiny whoop grommets? [3434.88] Jack: No. [3436.88] Clive: No, I've never gone to tiny whoops. [3440.48] Jack: Thank you, Richard Warwick. [3442.0] Tony: I had one. [3443.12] Tony: Richard Warwick from the chat, everyone. [3446.16] Jack: You're another one that should come on the podcast. [3449.76] Jack: Thank you to all our wonderful Patreons [3452.56] Jack: for without you, the show would not exist. [3455.92] Jack: We love you. [3456.88] Jack: Hopefully when Cole frees up, [3459.2] Jack: we'll start going through the video bonus podcast of drone history stuff. [3467.12] Jack: So that's something to look forward to when Cole is more available. [3470.96] Jack: You've been joined by Clive. [3472.56] Jack: He's usually in the chat. [3474.32] Jack: Goodbye. [3475.76] Jack: My darling wife, Tony. [3479.12] Jack: And I've been your host right until I fly. [3481.12] Jack: Thank you. [3481.76] Jack: Good night. [3482.48] Jack: Hopefully everyone's back next week and it relays. [3484.88] Jack: Thank you. [3485.2] Jack: Good night. [3489.44] Jack: Telemetry last.