=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 483 ===
Title: LDO 483 - The Usual Dream Team
Recorded: 2024-11-28
Hosts: Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 777
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNtJCq5noEs); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/1970799419-letsdroneout-ldo-483-the-usual-dream-team.mp3)
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[21.2] Jack: Hello and welcome. It's Thursday. It's less thrown out. We're a little late, as usual.
[58.7] Jack: Like the good old days. And speaking of, it's the usual dream team that once donned LDO.
[68.78] Jack: Everyone's favourite, Kerry Kitten. Hello. My darling wife, Tony.
[74.38] Jack: Sure, no. And we're self bright and so fly. We just need Frank. He'll be old school.
[81.82] Jack: Old school LDO. Tony, do you even know what a drone looks like anymore?
[88.78] Tony: Yeah, I'll take one out of my pocket down again and let it fly on its own.
[93.66] Tony: Do some work or cycling and then put it back in my pocket and then that's it.
[98.94] Jack: He hates that much. He doesn't even. Or have you just gotten so old that you can't fly them anymore?
[107.26] Jack: Is it your sight with the glasses? Is it the rigor mortis? I mean arthritis.
[114.62] Curry: I mean, to be fair, he couldn't fly unless he was sitting down for the last 10 years.
[118.7] Curry: So it's just got progressively worse and now he just can't do it at all.
[122.46] Jack: Well, he has to sit down, definitely.
[125.18] Jack: He's got a girl's I've done Gatwick shirt because they don't do one small enough.
[131.42] Tony: Is that what they said? It's nice. I like it. I love the design that Frank done. It's looking epic.
[138.06] Jack: Yeah, it's awesome. I can't believe it. Don't forget.
[141.42] Tony: I think everyone should buy one in girl sizes and just wear it.
[145.9] Jack: I don't think it's good. I don't think they're big enough for me.
[148.62] Jack: I think Steven was going to buy a dog version for Bob.
[160.22] Tony: Bob. Bob the dog.
[163.34] Curry: Can't be closer to my dog. He turns into a statue and refuses to move.
[168.54] Curry: That's funny.
[170.46] Tony: Yeah, I've put boots on Coco and no, was it Coco? I think it was Junior, actually.
[176.06] Tony: I put boots on him and he was just like, didn't know what to do.
[181.1] Tony: It's quite funny. Yes, no, I haven't flown anything but my DJI drone because the little
[188.14] Tony: Neo is just cool. I really like it. It's just got an update to go faster so it can chase me.
[195.66] Tony: Well, I can't outrun it on my bike. Put it that way.
[198.06] Tony: That was a nice little update that they listened to.
[204.62] Tony: They listened to the community or whatever and people have done that.
[209.42] Curry: It's cool. It's not a DJ, is it? Listening to people.
[214.38] Jack: Gary, I had a little bit of a whoopsie with the whoop.
[219.66] Jack: I had to change its board because it just cracked the bind.
[225.18] Jack: I don't know. I had a bit of a problem with the SPI receiver.
[231.9] Curry: It's probably worth always swapping out and putting a proper receiver on if you can on
[235.58] Curry: those ones because you can fit a regular receiver on and just turn SPI off.
[240.7] Jack: Yeah, it just didn't happen. Thank you very much.
[244.62] Tony: When I want to fly, Jack, you're going to hate me anyway.
[248.14] Tony: Why?
[248.94] Tony: Well, because I'm going to bring about 30 drones to your house and say,
[253.02] Tony: let's bind all this. Let's update all this. Let's resold this, that, this.
[259.34] Jack: Yeah, I am prepared for that. I'm okay with that.
[265.34] Tony: We have to do it one rainy Sunday.
[268.7] Jack: I've done most of it, though.
[271.1] Tony: You have to be fresh to cut the quads, but I think we need probably about a million updates.
[275.42] Tony: Not that I want to do any of that.
[277.82] Jack: I don't know. I am not convinced that there isn't some sort of major issue with Edge TX and
[286.3] Jack: Tyrannuses because Frank outdated his. It's not working. Mine, the travel, intermittently stops
[296.3] Jack: going as far as it does. And your one's acting a bit weird as well, where it just slowly lands
[305.82] Tony: itself. Yeah, every time I've got out now, I've crashed and I don't. That's very rare.
[311.82] Tony: Mind you, I haven't flown for a little while, but I mean, but flying both the X-Cars, Susan,
[316.62] Tony: they both went wrong. So was it the transmitter?
[320.46] Curry: I thought you had like a boxer now, Jack, instead of a Torens.
[325.66] Jack: Yeah, I do. Because I was having problems. I took the gimbals completely apart.
[331.34] Jack: I've had to color in my buttons because I'm annoyed that I can't remember the order of them.
[340.54] Curry: That was my suggestion to Radiumaster, but they still haven't fixed that.
[344.14] Jack: Double, double shot. They should double shot their buttons.
[348.46] Tony: Yeah. How's it doing in the hands, Jim?
[351.02] Jack: System and model are completely blank, so I have to get those wrong every time.
[359.26] Jack: Does it feel nice to hold now?
[362.22] Jack: Yeah. I love my boxer. I just wish these were free position. Just hasn't got enough switches.
[372.78] Tony: No, just two.
[373.42] Jack: Just pots. Never use them. Give me switches.
[377.26] Jack: I think it's got enough for quads. Just planes is a bit more of a challenge.
[382.06] Jack: Yeah, exactly. Planes and return to home and all that. But apart from that, it's been all good.
[392.78] Jack: The beta flight quads in surgery. I just couldn't get that weird
[401.58] Jack: throttle wobble. Flash this to AN32 and it was just wobble and freak out.
[412.77] Jack: I mean, I can play a video if you want.
[417.97] Jack: Hang on. Google Drive. Fluffer me, guys, whilst I get the files.
[425.81] Curry: Well, I'm thinking of the literal word fluffer as used in the porn industry,
[431.09] Curry: and I'm not sure I'm quite prepared to do that.
[433.01] Tony: I'm not prepared to do that. I'm not. I know I'm his wife apparently.
[435.73] Curry: Not after last time, for sure.
[437.97] Jack: I know. That's funny.
[440.61] Jack: Here we go. So that's my friend, Rudy. That's me on a bench. We're at the bench.
[450.85] Jack: This is what weather is like now.
[453.65] Jack: This is what? 3pm when it gets dark these days?
[457.17] Jack: Yeah, it creeps up on you way too quickly.
[461.65] Jack: No, it's horrible.
[464.37] Jack: The motor stooped down properly.
[467.09] Curry: What are you fighting?
[469.89] Jack: Oh, yeah, that's just really not.
[473.01] Jack: Yeah, and it's with auto timing and everything.
[477.86] Jack: What was this?
[480.66] Tony: It's a few weeks ago now.
[482.18] Tony: Yeah, what was it? What was that? You said it was Beataflight, God.
[486.9] Tony: Yeah, Beataflight, yeah.
[488.26] Tony: What is it? Is it something that they've done or something that you've done or is it?
[492.82] Jack: I don't know. I don't know. It's like I've kind of, it's got to the point where,
[498.9] Jack: you know, it was coming to the end of the season. I wasn't really doing anything spectacular.
[504.5] Jack: And it was a sort of be a heavy state, flash a load of I am 32, give it a go.
[511.62] Jack: And the weather and the daylight just is just like crept, crept back in.
[522.42] Jack: And now there's not enough time to fix this crap.
[526.1] Curry: It's not a last time for your game.
[529.14] Curry: It is dead and stuff.
[530.9] Curry: But I haven't felt the need to take the quads they're on, be a heavy 32 and think,
[534.74] Curry: oh, I must upgrade those sound 32.
[537.38] Curry: Because it's like, well, that's just going to carry on working.
[540.66] Curry: And if it's not broken, don't try and fix it.
[546.34] Jack: Yeah, definitely.
[547.86] Jack: I mean, that, you know, it was just like, there was a lot of, there's a few people
[553.78] Jack: that like asked me to flash things for them.
[557.46] Jack: Flash am 32.
[559.3] Jack: There was a few people who like didn't want the, were like worried about the,
[564.18] Jack: the rearm, disarm sort of thing.
[567.38] Jack: And I mean, these are, these are sort of like cheaper, cheaper, you know,
[574.74] Jack: ESCs and stuff.
[576.66] Jack: And it was kind of like, let's just give it a go.
[580.02] Jack: I mean, I, I flashed blue, blue jay onto the WOOP.
[584.26] Jack: So the little, the little WOOP's got, got blue jay.
[590.74] Jack: And, uh, yeah, I put, I put one of those weird, you know, uh, backward facing
[600.26] Jack: BBL, uh, BT2 connectors that goes the other way.
[605.7] Jack: It's been flying lovely.
[607.46] Jack: I just could not get it.
[609.62] Jack: It used to arm and it used to connect.
[612.58] Jack: And I also found this really weird bug where, uh, if I left it for, for a while,
[619.14] Jack: or I ran the battery down too low, the ISD would stop working for no real reason.
[626.18] Jack: And the only way to ever bring it back was to re-flash it the thing and restore all the,
[633.46] Jack: yeah, on the old 1.0.
[636.9] Jack: Not just rebooting it.
[639.22] Jack: Yeah.
[639.62] Jack: Just yeah.
[640.98] Jack: Just wouldn't, the ISD would go.
[644.18] Jack: So yeah.
[648.66] Jack: So he's on the latest.
[652.5] Jack: Um, I can tell you, I can plug in regarding the version of beta flight that I'm on.
[660.58] Jack: But yeah, it was on the official release on AM32.
[665.06] Jack: But I don't know about my, I don't know about beta flight.
[669.38] Jack: What version it was just a weird, you know, our Mac said exactly the same thing,
[676.02] Jack: that there was certain people.
[677.62] Jack: There was one other person experiencing that.
[680.34] Tony: Can you run it up on the bench and get the same twitching from that top left motor?
[685.78] Jack: It was that one.
[688.02] Jack: Yeah.
[690.1] Tony: Because I've seen stuff like that before where it's actually been a motor and
[694.26] Tony: motors very rarely go wrong.
[696.02] Tony: But when they do, they kind of do that.
[698.02] Tony: We'll just stop.
[700.82] Jack: Yeah.
[701.22] Jack: I ripped it out now.
[705.62] Jack: I'm going to put new gummies in.
[708.34] Tony: We'll try to clean the, make it less noisy to see if it was that.
[713.14] Jack: No, I'm just going back to be a heli for now until, yeah, I've kind of, I've kind of given up.
[721.22] Jack: I really have, you know, I tried, but, but yeah, so I don't know.
[728.9] Curry: This is a replacement.
[730.98] Curry: This was the BFDV Air 75 and I had one to review it and it flew really nice.
[738.9] Curry: But when the camera went into the sun at the point where it went from sort of the horizon upwards,
[744.98] Curry: the picture would shear.
[748.18] Curry: And I talked to BFDV for ages and they're like, oh, I don't know what's up.
[753.22] Curry: They eventually sent me a new one and this one works good.
[755.7] Curry: But hooray.
[756.26] Curry: I have a new little quad.
[759.78] Jack: So you got no idea what the, what the issue was with the old,
[763.14] Jack: was it the old camera?
[764.26] Jack: Have you tried moving cameras over?
[766.74] Curry: Probably the camera.
[767.54] Curry: I haven't got cameras which are about 10 mill across.
[770.74] Curry: This is, this is absolutely tiny.
[772.42] Curry: If you look at what's on the inside there, there's, there's nothing there practically.
[776.58] Curry: I could try it, but I was like, you know, I'm like, well, pretend I'm a customer.
[781.94] Curry: What would you do if this happens?
[783.22] Curry: And they'd say, we tell you to refer to our support center.
[786.82] Curry: It's like, okay, refer me to, so I had to talk literally to support center.
[792.58] Curry: I explained the problem and sent him the link to the video.
[796.42] Curry: And so you look at 10 minutes, 14 seconds.
[799.06] Curry: And he asked me saying, hello.
[801.3] Curry: How long have you been using a drone for?
[803.86] Curry: Are you familiar with beta flight?
[805.78] Curry: Is there any video or picture you could send me that describes the problem?
[808.82] Curry: I'm like, what am I doing here?
[811.86] Curry: I just talk into a bot or something.
[813.7] Curry: So I told him it three times.
[816.42] Curry: And then he eventually looked at it and said, is the camera loose?
[819.78] Curry: It's like, no.
[821.3] Curry: And then like, we're sending you a new one.
[822.9] Curry: Is that it?
[823.46] Curry: That's your diagnosis.
[825.22] Curry: Okay.
[825.54] Curry: Okay.
[827.54] Curry: No, I do.
[829.94] Curry: I knew you all will do.
[831.86] Curry: So if you've got a sharing picture on one of these,
[834.34] Curry: he talking and try not to get mad talking to the school people
[838.42] Curry: and they'll eventually send you a new one, it seems.
[842.98] Tony: Hi.
[843.94] Tony: Have you guys flown this week or anything?
[847.86] Tony: No, this is a.
[851.46] Tony: Windy and now it's freezing.
[854.42] Tony: Yeah.
[855.06] Curry: It was quite nice.
[856.9] Curry: So it's sunny today, which was quite nice.
[859.46] Curry: It was very, very cold.
[861.06] Tony: It's three degrees today.
[862.58] Tony: Yeah.
[863.3] Tony: Yeah.
[865.14] Curry: Yeah.
[868.18] Curry: That was my review of the day.
[870.98] Tony: No way.
[873.22] Tony: A lot of heat.
[877.22] Curry: Yeah.
[877.7] Curry: It comes with a little battery pack.
[880.34] Curry: It's got here there and the back of the neck as well.
[884.74] Curry: Is it just going on saying, Oh, that's nice.
[887.7] Curry: And it wasn't like, because I was walking, I wasn't that cold.
[891.38] Curry: So I turned it off for a bit and then I said, Oh, I want to back on.
[893.54] Curry: It's so nice.
[894.42] Curry: Just walking around.
[895.62] Curry: Being all.
[900.1] Jack: I know.
[902.82] Jack: I've got, I've got that big light snood thing, you know,
[906.1] Jack: like the big light sort of like poncho with a hood in it.
[909.22] Jack: And I randomly walked past the girl who had the exact same one.
[912.58] Jack: I was like, Oh my God.
[914.18] Jack: No, it's that time.
[916.02] Jack: That time to try and survive in the, in the half cold of the UK.
[922.42] Tony: We thought it was cold.
[923.46] Tony: Look at Robert.
[924.9] Tony: What's that?
[925.54] Tony: Oak leg.
[926.42] Tony: Oak lip said, uh, it's minus 29.
[929.94] Tony: Sorry.
[930.34] Tony: I just screwed your name up there.
[932.34] Tony: I can't see my without my glasses and I can't be bothered.
[936.02] Tony: One minus 29.
[938.9] Tony: It was minus three this morning.
[940.58] Tony: After it rained and flooded yesterday or the day before yesterday actually rained
[946.98] Tony: and flooded and, and then it all come down in the afternoon.
[950.34] Tony: It was all the rivers were just swollen.
[953.38] Tony: Then we woke up to minus three and then yeah, worked in.
[957.3] Tony: It was a nice day, but it was, uh, yeah, three degrees.
[960.58] Tony: But yeah, minus 29.
[961.94] Tony: That's, uh, it's quite chilly in it.
[964.18] Curry: That's quite chilly.
[964.98] Curry: Although I have to say being in cold temperatures, it depends on the wind.
[969.22] Curry: When I was last in Canada skiing, when I was also ill at the same time,
[973.46] Curry: it was down to minus 30 and the best day we had, it was minus 24, which was quite cold.
[978.5] Curry: But a couple of weeks ago when I was in Iceland, when I wasn't on the show,
[982.34] Curry: it was like, you know, minus one or something, but it was like 40 mile an hour wind.
[987.38] Curry: And it's the first place I've been when I thought, because we drive out in the middle of nowhere
[992.34] Curry: and it's just like snow covered volcanic rock everywhere.
[996.74] Curry: But if I was just left here for an hour, I'd die.
[1000.5] Curry: There's no surviving.
[1001.94] Curry: It was so bad.
[1003.06] Curry: I was just walking up a hill and the wind hit my eye.
[1005.7] Curry: I thought my eyeball was going to fall out.
[1007.54] Curry: I got so cold.
[1008.74] Curry: It was just horrible.
[1010.5] Curry: Really bad.
[1011.14] Jack: Harry, can you tap your mic?
[1013.94] Jack: Yeah, you're not using that mic.
[1015.94] Tony: I didn't think it was that.
[1016.9] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[1019.3] Tony: It just definitely sounds echo, isn't it?
[1022.82] Tony: I thought I'd be moved into the garage.
[1025.7] Curry: How are we doing now?
[1027.06] Jack: Yeah, that's good.
[1028.42] Curry: Well, thanks.
[1028.9] Curry: Thanks for leaving it between those before you mentioned it, guys.
[1032.66] Jack: Sorry.
[1033.22] Jack: It was, I was listening.
[1036.1] Jack: I got distracted by the lovely, like, self-forming code.
[1041.3] Tony: I haven't been on for ages and you look like you've changed into,
[1044.58] Tony: maybe moved into the garage or something.
[1046.66] Tony: So I thought it was echo in the garage.
[1048.9] Tony: I don't know.
[1051.62] Jack: No, he's changed his background.
[1053.94] Jack: I much prefer the old background.
[1057.54] Tony: Plus the piano there now, isn't it?
[1059.14] Curry: It's because I put a piano there.
[1060.42] Curry: It's got lots of new stuff.
[1063.14] Curry: No, it's still in the same room.
[1066.26] Curry: Still the same room.
[1067.3] Curry: Still the current getting signed.
[1068.5] Curry: Still with the metrics.
[1070.18] Jack: It's all there.
[1071.06] Jack: Radio master sign.
[1072.9] Jack: Radio master boxer box.
[1076.66] Curry: Yeah, I keep it on.
[1078.02] Curry: This is all, like, my go stuff now.
[1080.18] Curry: So on the shelves up there is, like, Radio Master Radio
[1086.02] Curry: and my HD0 goggles.
[1089.86] Curry: And those are modules for the radio
[1094.74] Curry: as in a couple of quads that I use regularly.
[1097.86] Curry: And then there's just, like, more stuff.
[1100.1] Curry: More quads and stuff.
[1102.98] Jack: The ones up on the top walls,
[1105.22] Jack: the ones you don't use anymore.
[1107.46] Jack: Some of them look a bit old.
[1110.18] Curry: Yeah, the ones I keep in there,
[1112.26] Curry: because I generally get rid of them if I've got too many.
[1114.9] Curry: Those are either ones that I like to fly
[1118.26] Curry: or they've got high nostalgic value.
[1121.62] Curry: This is why they've been kept.
[1124.66] Jack: How's the open IPC going?
[1128.98] Curry: It's going all right.
[1129.62] Curry: I got the last few that I did.
[1131.7] Curry: I updated it.
[1132.42] Curry: So it's got the MSP OSD.
[1135.22] Curry: And I've got that set up on three quads now.
[1137.86] Curry: So I've got the one I didn't do, the big EMAX one,
[1141.78] Curry: which is basically an external box on top of a quad now.
[1146.02] Curry: But I still have to go fly all those.
[1148.42] Curry: So I refocused the little EMAX one as well,
[1151.54] Curry: because it's in kind of a loose 3D printed box
[1154.34] Curry: so the lens was out of focus.
[1156.26] Curry: So that would be my next blind day,
[1158.66] Curry: because I've missed a couple,
[1159.94] Curry: because I could have gone out occasionally.
[1162.66] Curry: One of the things I, here's a topic for us.
[1165.78] Curry: I mentioned in my coat reviewing video is like,
[1168.82] Curry: okay, I'm super toasty here.
[1170.34] Curry: I used that word about 50 billion times in the video.
[1173.78] Curry: But when you're out in the field flying,
[1176.18] Curry: the bit that gets the coldest is your fingers,
[1178.9] Curry: because if you put regular gloves on,
[1181.22] Curry: can't use radio, can you?
[1182.34] Curry: Because you can't feel enough.
[1184.1] Curry: I've seen some people using gloves,
[1186.58] Curry: and obviously there's the right gloves you can get
[1189.22] Curry: where you've got enough feeling for your thumbs.
[1192.5] Curry: To do something.
[1193.94] Curry: Anybody, any ideas?
[1195.38] Curry: Over to the jack.
[1197.14] Curry: Or Tony, because Jack's disappeared.
[1201.38] Tony: Yeah, I can't fly with gloves.
[1203.38] Tony: I can't work with gloves either.
[1204.98] Tony: I work outside and stuff.
[1208.02] Tony: You can get, I use like the filled in rubber gloves,
[1211.86] Tony: you know, where they're dipped.
[1213.94] Tony: So you get the cloth,
[1215.38] Tony: but then the rubber is kind of underneath.
[1219.3] Tony: I use them for gutter cleaning
[1220.98] Tony: and holding my window cleaning poles and stuff,
[1223.38] Tony: where you could probably, if you've got the right size,
[1225.7] Tony: wear them, give you a bit of cover.
[1228.5] Tony: But then there's a transmitter mitt,
[1230.1] Tony: have you ever tried that?
[1232.66] Curry: Yeah, I don't really like those,
[1234.1] Curry: because that's just another,
[1236.42] Curry: it's another bit of tricky logistics,
[1238.58] Curry: get radio into thing,
[1240.02] Curry: position it weirdly, and get hands in.
[1244.26] Curry: I think you've sat there.
[1244.74] Curry: Because I remember flying in the winter sometimes
[1246.42] Curry: and thinking, I'm going to have to land,
[1248.58] Curry: because I can no longer feel what my throttle's doing.
[1251.86] Curry: It's really dodgy landing to come in.
[1254.98] Curry: God, there was a back in the day.
[1257.06] Curry: But there's no subtlety in movement.
[1259.46] Tony: Yeah, back in the day,
[1260.98] Tony: God, when we used to go out all the time,
[1263.06] Tony: like when everything was new 10 years ago,
[1265.86] Tony: like FPV quads and stuff,
[1268.1] Tony: we were going out,
[1269.62] Tony: we were hoping it was frosty in the winter.
[1271.7] Tony: So, you know, don't want it to rain.
[1274.02] Tony: I'd rather it be frosty,
[1275.54] Tony: but you're sitting out with your mates flying,
[1278.42] Tony: and it was so cold.
[1280.58] Tony: Some of us would do it in the car,
[1283.38] Tony: but, you know, you'd have to have a tripod outside,
[1286.1] Tony: and then wires coming in through and stuff like that.
[1288.82] Tony: I've done that before.
[1289.7] Curry: I remember one of the days it really snowed heavily,
[1293.14] Curry: and my friend who was living in Oxfordshire said,
[1297.06] Curry: oh, it's snowing.
[1298.58] Curry: It's laid everywhere.
[1299.54] Curry: We should go for a fly.
[1301.06] Curry: And he's in Oxfordshire.
[1302.02] Curry: I'm down near Southampton.
[1303.06] Curry: He's like, let's meet in the new forest.
[1305.14] Curry: Just randomly vanishing to drive there.
[1307.14] Curry: And what we imagined is it was going to be like beautiful blues,
[1310.5] Curry: and we got all these lovely,
[1311.94] Curry: you know, stunning reflection stuff off the snow,
[1314.9] Curry: completely gray on the sky.
[1316.98] Curry: So it was like really boring with him,
[1318.66] Curry: but we had good fun there.
[1320.26] Curry: The only interesting thing about that is
[1322.58] Curry: he crashed his plane into some trees,
[1324.98] Curry: and he lost the camera and couldn't find it.
[1327.86] Curry: And we went back like six months later,
[1330.02] Curry: and he found it, and it still worked,
[1331.86] Curry: which was amazing.
[1333.86] Tony: That's a good camera.
[1337.22] Tony: Was that, what, the FPV camera?
[1338.82] Tony: Not a recording camera.
[1340.26] Curry: Yeah, yeah, just the FPV camera.
[1343.38] Curry: All this stuff there.
[1344.9] Curry: Astro Gloves.
[1345.54] Curry: What are Astro Gloves, Frank?
[1349.76] Curry: I think I've heard of them.
[1351.44] Curry: FPV or used fishing gloves,
[1353.28] Curry: but the thumb tip can be folded there.
[1354.8] Curry: I've got some myths where if I want to do something,
[1358.56] Curry: instead of take them off,
[1359.36] Curry: I could just peel it back and fill the thumb back
[1361.12] Curry: and then do something and put it back on.
[1363.12] Curry: But holding the radio,
[1364.4] Curry: you still get really cold very quickly from that.
[1367.2] Curry: That's just one.
[1367.92] Curry: I suppose you could just poke a hole in regular gloves
[1370.4] Curry: and just like put them there and do it that way.
[1375.36] Tony: Yeah, but if you fly in DJ or my stuff, you're all right.
[1381.28] Tony: It's flying like FPV quads as well.
[1383.76] Tony: Yeah, flying proper quads and stuff.
[1385.84] Curry: Proper properly.
[1387.52] Curry: Yeah, I'm already screwed
[1388.88] Curry: because my fly field during the winter,
[1391.68] Curry: people remark over it's like,
[1393.76] Curry: why are you flying over a lake?
[1394.96] Curry: I'm like, it's not.
[1395.84] Curry: It's the field and it's rained.
[1397.92] Curry: And now it's flooded.
[1398.96] Curry: And this is what we had for four months.
[1402.32] Curry: You've got to be super accurate on your landings.
[1405.28] Curry: Don't crash and don't lose batteries.
[1408.88] Curry: Yeah, just don't crash.
[1410.88] Curry: Else is going to bury yourself
[1412.24] Curry: and you won't know what happened.
[1413.84] Tony: I just think the best thing is
[1418.48] Tony: just running,
[1420.0] Tony: putting a tripod on the top of the roof
[1421.6] Tony: or outside the car window.
[1424.56] Tony: Just fly from inside your car.
[1426.56] Curry: Yeah, that would work.
[1427.52] Curry: But I have to walk like 500 yards to get to the field.
[1432.32] Curry: And like Frank said the link is Astro Gloves.
[1436.48] Curry: Astro Gloves are the gloves specifically
[1438.56] Curry: designed for amateur astronomers.
[1441.36] Curry: Okay, it says
[1446.56] Curry: the semi-fingerless design gives you fun
[1448.88] Curry: and fingertip control to use your equipment
[1451.12] Curry: without having to remove the gloves.
[1453.2] Curry: Must have astronomy accessory.
[1455.12] Curry: Oh, you can free size this small, medium, large.
[1459.04] Curry: Well, that might be worth the try.
[1461.28] Curry: Have you heard of Astro Gloves, Jack?
[1462.88] Curry: What's your when you say it's not for gloves?
[1466.08] Curry: Not go out.
[1470.0] Curry: I mean, not many of us are going out.
[1471.44] Curry: It's now like,
[1473.28] Curry: we used to be like,
[1474.4] Curry: if it was raining, I'd go and hide under a tree.
[1476.88] Curry: I'd be like, it's not raining.
[1478.88] Curry: It's like, oh, now I look at the forecast
[1480.8] Curry: as well as this page, so I'm not risking that.
[1486.83] Jack: David made his transmitter heated.
[1492.99] Jack: And you can, there's also a guy who
[1499.47] Jack: put motorcycle grip heater
[1504.11] Jack: light pads on his actual transmitter.
[1509.71] Tony: That's cool.
[1512.51] Tony: He says it's not too cold in here in Florida to fly,
[1514.91] Tony: but it's crowded.
[1517.71] Tony: I've flown in Florida a couple of times.
[1519.55] Tony: Cocoa Beach.
[1522.43] Tony: Miami Beach.
[1523.23] Tony: I flew one pack.
[1526.19] Jack: Yeah, it's gone.
[1529.23] Jack: Yeah.
[1530.03] Jack: But you could just install that
[1533.07] Jack: into a transmitter mitt.
[1536.27] Jack: If you remember.
[1537.63] Curry: I was saying, I didn't like the whole mitt thing
[1539.71] Curry: because it's just extra logistics.
[1543.23] Tony: I mean, your thumbs are still going to get cold,
[1545.39] Tony: didn't they?
[1545.87] Jack: Yeah, I know.
[1547.79] Jack: You can't win them all.
[1550.35] Jack: But it's scary how he's actually like,
[1553.47] Jack: got rid of the antenna
[1554.83] Jack: and it's just got the wiggly bit out there.
[1557.87] Jack: But I don't know.
[1558.35] Jack: Maybe you could install this on the inside.
[1560.03] Curry: It's an extra radio.
[1561.07] Curry: He's not expecting great range anyway, is he?
[1563.71] Curry: No.
[1564.59] Jack: Sorry, it's just an idea.
[1565.47] Tony: I mean, I like the idea.
[1567.07] Jack: But you could put that inside the transmitter
[1570.35] Jack: with a big enough battery,
[1572.35] Jack: the whole transmitter would be heated
[1575.15] Jack: and the light that's running the transmitter.
[1578.11] Tony: I just think you should put away money
[1580.11] Tony: all through the summer
[1581.39] Tony: and then have a two week flying break
[1583.63] Tony: somewhere in the US where it's warm or something.
[1587.94] Tony: Do that.
[1591.01] Tony: Surely you could fly over the ever grades.
[1593.65] Tony: Go and spot the big ferry man down there.
[1596.29] Tony: You know, probably get confused with Jack,
[1598.05] Tony: but there he is.
[1604.64] Tony: You're eating out of time.
[1606.56] Tony: Numskull says, get extra 10 feet
[1609.84] Tony: with no antenna cover.
[1613.82] Tony: Does that know what he means?
[1614.62] Tony: He's doubling the range.
[1616.7] Tony: Oh, all right.
[1617.26] Tony: Yes.
[1618.7] Jack: The spectrum didn't have the knobbly antenna.
[1624.06] Tony: Yes, spectrum.
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[1652.62] Curry: By the way, on Discord this week,
[1654.22] Curry: Numskull, FVV, and PlayaVV
[1656.06] Curry: have spotted some good Black Friday deals.
[1659.18] Jack: I think Team Motor, one of them,
[1664.38] Jack: I saw that, which I've already done.
[1667.26] Jack: Team Motor is so quick.
[1669.98] Tony: Any other Friday deals?
[1673.1] Jack: Tony's gone peak retirement on us.
[1677.74] Jack: You get one and Tesco's like 30 quid.
[1680.22] Tony: Oh no, but I wanted one with an AI camera.
[1684.46] Tony: You just put your food in it.
[1685.98] Tony: It tells you what it is
[1687.1] Tony: and then cooks it to the right temperature
[1690.38] Tony: and everything it says.
[1691.34] Tony: Oh, you've put brussel sprouts in here.
[1694.86] Tony: 10 minutes, 200 degrees.
[1699.63] Tony: That's pretty good.
[1701.55] Tony: I still don't want to fly a drone himself.
[1704.83] Jack: Wants the air fryer to cook things for him.
[1708.67] Jack: Wants everything done for him now.
[1710.83] Tony: Exactly.
[1711.39] Tony: I've got to the AI, enjoy it.
[1712.83] Tony: The big five oh and was like,
[1715.23] Tony: oh, I can't be bothered to fly.
[1716.59] Tony: Is there a drone out there?
[1717.63] Tony: Yeah, the DJI Neo.
[1719.07] Tony: Yeah, something to cook for me with an FBV camera in it.
[1722.51] Jack: The robots are in charge.
[1723.39] Jack: I don't care anymore.
[1726.19] Tony: That's it, mate.
[1728.11] Jack: He installs one of those Japanese toilets
[1730.59] Jack: so he doesn't have to wipe his own ass.
[1733.63] Tony: Oh, I'd love one of them
[1734.83] Tony: because they heat up as well, don't they?
[1738.43] Curry: You never have to sit on a cold toilet seat again.
[1741.71] Curry: Oh, lovely.
[1743.63] Curry: My one's called Timmy.
[1744.59] Curry: He's very special.
[1746.35] Curry: Timmy.
[1748.03] Jack: Have you got one of those toilets, Ben Curry?
[1750.75] Curry: Jesus, yeah, I went to Japan.
[1752.27] Curry: I'm like, I can't go back.
[1753.55] Curry: I need something to wipe my ass for me.
[1756.67] Curry: No way.
[1759.23] Curry: You guys are from Iraq.
[1760.43] Curry: And you said this is luxury for my bum or something.
[1763.95] Tony: Yeah, if anyone needs it, f***ing yack does.
[1767.63] Curry: Oh, I don't know.
[1768.35] Curry: It's an office design for those commercial loads.
[1772.27] Jack: I'd void the warranty.
[1776.27] Tony: The U-sit would get the poor thing.
[1778.51] Tony: Timmy would be like, I wasn't.
[1783.31] Jack: Is the toilet seat heat up for you,
[1785.07] Jack: taking the flying to keep warm?
[1789.79] Tony: That's a good idea.
[1793.15] Curry: Japan, they're living in the future.
[1795.23] Curry: Yeah, I live in the future.
[1796.03] Curry: I didn't actually buy a Japanese toilet.
[1797.31] Curry: I got a Chinese knockoff much in the way.
[1799.31] Curry: It's like all my reviews of Chinese knockoffs.
[1801.95] Curry: So yeah, those Japanese ones are like a grand.
[1805.87] Tony: Yeah, they all bear that much.
[1808.11] Jack: Did you ever figure out what the deal was
[1810.27] Jack: with your emails and Skystars?
[1814.27] Jack: And do you know what they're sending you?
[1817.15] Jack: Because they were very sort of,
[1819.07] Jack: there's needs to go for Friday.
[1822.19] Curry: Motors, weirdly.
[1825.95] Jack: Okay.
[1827.95] Jack: Yeah.
[1832.75] Jack: You are?
[1834.11] Jack: I asked for an ESC.
[1837.95] Curry: No, they just said like,
[1839.39] Curry: oh, we have these sizes of motors.
[1841.79] Curry: I'd like to send you.
[1842.59] Curry: It's like, oh, I think they did motors.
[1844.75] Curry: It's like they get them made
[1845.71] Curry: through these people who do very good things
[1847.71] Curry: and make it for other people.
[1849.95] Curry: So we're just working out sizes and stuff.
[1855.23] Curry: Because I don't have some goggles.
[1857.95] Curry: Sorry.
[1858.35] Curry: You are?
[1859.39] Curry: Oh, and it pans off the balls.
[1860.59] Curry: That's not bad.
[1862.11] Curry: What's it called?
[1862.83] Curry: So expensive.
[1864.27] Curry: It's like, I don't really do many builds these days
[1868.03] Curry: because if someone says,
[1868.91] Curry: would you like this frame to look at?
[1870.51] Curry: I was like, no,
[1871.55] Curry: because then I'd have to find all the stuff
[1873.23] Curry: where I'd have to build it.
[1874.43] Curry: It's going to take me hours
[1875.55] Curry: and I'd have to fly it.
[1876.59] Curry: I'll just tell them, say, this is a frame.
[1878.75] Curry: Which is dumb.
[1881.31] Curry: But I do want to swap out some motors on those old,
[1883.79] Curry: you know those old Toray quads I've got
[1886.19] Curry: are my test things.
[1887.15] Curry: The motors that came with those are these
[1889.15] Curry: like plastic wrapped wires,
[1891.07] Curry: which are horrific.
[1892.11] Curry: They're so like that.
[1894.75] Curry: So at least proper motors with proper wires
[1897.39] Curry: would be nicer.
[1903.33] Jack: Do you know what you're going to stick them on yet?
[1907.09] Jack: Yeah.
[1907.33] Curry: One would be my cheapo seven inch
[1911.01] Curry: Vitaro one.
[1912.29] Curry: And he wants to send me some for a five inch.
[1914.53] Curry: So the next five inch I either have to upgrade
[1917.17] Curry: or build will go on those ones.
[1922.13] Curry: But yeah, I haven't got anything
[1924.93] Curry: like mid build apart from this little B25 thing,
[1930.69] Curry: which was designed for an O3.
[1932.37] Curry: And I don't have an O3
[1933.41] Curry: and I managed to squeeze this walks now thing in it.
[1936.05] Curry: And then I realized that the voltage it was supplying
[1940.13] Curry: was incorrect and that blew up the walks now thing.
[1942.53] Curry: And so it's like, oh, that's a shame.
[1945.65] Curry: Killed it.
[1947.09] Curry: I killed it.
[1948.29] Curry: Put too many volts.
[1951.81] Curry: So I'm going to have to put analog on it
[1953.57] Curry: if I get around to it.
[1956.69] Curry: Ho hung these things happen.
[1960.56] Jack: Damn it.
[1961.44] Jack: You got proper.
[1962.72] Jack: You got proper goggles.
[1963.76] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[1964.32] Jack: Yeah.
[1964.48] Jack: You got just the module.
[1965.84] Jack: They sent you some.
[1968.32] Curry: I well, no, I had to buy my walks now goggles
[1972.0] Curry: at a bank discount.
[1974.72] Curry: But yeah, I've still got another VTX going something else.
[1978.96] Curry: If I get around to that.
[1981.84] Curry: And I've got I've got a couple of
[1985.52] Curry: yeah, I've got about
[1987.04] Curry: I've got my big chimera seven, which is on walks now.
[1990.32] Curry: And now I've got like a couple of whoop things.
[1992.32] Curry: I've got the thing that's got the moonlight one in it,
[1996.4] Curry: which just absolutely works brilliantly with Jaroflow.
[2000.08] Curry: Everything just perfectly works.
[2002.0] Curry: Normally when I use Jaroflow, it's just like it's a bit crap
[2004.72] Curry: and it doesn't look like I put the stuff from the moonlight VTX
[2008.88] Curry: into it and it's just like perfect without which I liked.
[2014.64] Jack: Well, is it pulling the gyro from the flight controller
[2018.56] Jack: or has it got one in the unit?
[2021.52] Curry: That's got one in the unit, I think.
[2025.28] Jack: Yeah, because I don't know whether this is common knowledge,
[2028.88] Jack: but Cole got the new M4 Mac Studio.
[2034.0] Jack: I don't know whether I should be saying this that loud.
[2035.92] Jack: I'm sorry, Cole, to throw you under the bus.
[2039.12] Jack: But yeah, and that that was the next
[2042.96] Jack: at the moment he's trying to get like all his software and stuff sorted.
[2046.8] Jack: He hasn't set it up, but I am interested on how quick
[2051.12] Jack: he can run Jaroflow through it.
[2055.6] Curry: Well, I had to buy my daughter a Mac for MacBook Pro,
[2059.76] Curry: but that's because she spilled a whole glass of water
[2061.84] Curry: on her previous MacBook and then said,
[2064.72] Curry: but I need it for work tomorrow.
[2066.88] Curry: So can I have a new one?
[2070.0] Curry: That was an expensive week.
[2072.24] Jack: Come on, Ben.
[2073.44] Jack: Ouch.
[2074.8] Jack: Was it not insured?
[2077.68] Curry: Yeah, it was insured, but aside from the excess
[2081.6] Curry: that would involve sending it away and having it assessed
[2086.08] Curry: and then coming back and saying,
[2087.52] Curry: yeah, it's a right offer, yeah, it's going to cost as much to fix.
[2090.32] Curry: A quick carousel at the genius bar, as they call themselves,
[2096.16] Curry: was 1300 quid to fix it.
[2098.72] Curry: They reckoned it corroded everything, which I say,
[2101.68] Curry: that's a bit weird from fresh water.
[2104.72] Curry: So she's bringing it back and I'll have a look at it,
[2106.8] Curry: see what's going on.
[2108.32] Curry: And then I suppose we can always do the claim still.
[2110.88] Curry: We want to, but then.
[2112.64] Tony: Why don't they just conformal coat everything in laptops and things?
[2117.84] Tony: How many people spill stuff over laptops?
[2121.28] Curry: Many, I think.
[2123.86] Curry: My wife's already broken two kindles from dropping them
[2128.98] Curry: in the bath.
[2131.46] Curry: After the first time, I was like, you've done it again.
[2134.34] Curry: And then she came home yesterday after staying up at Silverstone
[2137.78] Curry: for some work events.
[2138.66] Curry: She said, I think I've left the kindle in the room.
[2141.7] Curry: I was like, what's wrong with you?
[2142.66] Curry: What have you got against the kindle?
[2144.42] Curry: And this kindle actually says, waterproof.
[2148.5] Curry: They've literally found out she keeps dropping in the bath
[2150.98] Curry: and they've waterproofed it in case she dropped this one in the bath.
[2153.3] Curry: And then she left it.
[2155.86] Curry: And then she left it in the hotel.
[2158.66] Jack: They'll send you back to her, wouldn't they?
[2160.58] Jack: They should do.
[2161.94] Curry: Yeah, it's just arrived today.
[2164.58] Curry: It's like she had to organize the post office to pick it up and stuff.
[2168.1] Curry: But they sent it in just a regular envelope.
[2170.98] Curry: It's like, oh, that's going to go through the postal system.
[2173.3] Curry: Interesting.
[2173.78] Curry: We haven't opened it yet.
[2174.82] Curry: It might be diked.
[2179.06] Jack: Oh my God.
[2179.86] Jack: You might as well have just dropkicked it from there to your house.
[2184.02] Curry: Yeah, sort of fizzied it over.
[2188.18] Jack: Oh my God.
[2190.74] Jack: 95% of the population have an IQ less than 101.
[2196.1] Jack: Well, it's true.
[2198.18] Curry: You have to remember most people deal with idiots.
[2201.46] Curry: That is worrying.
[2205.62] Curry: Any plans from you guys to get out there and do some stuff in the next weeks or so?
[2213.06] Jack: No.
[2218.83] Jack: I've tried.
[2221.15] Jack: I've tried hustling to be done.
[2222.75] Jack: I probably maybe next week or a week after.
[2227.63] Jack: That's the plan.
[2230.51] Jack: Hoping to get to Hidden Valley.
[2234.83] Jack: Hopefully there should be some somewhat of a fly for us lot close to the drone.
[2242.51] Jack: The drone show.
[2244.11] Jack: You know, the I don't know whether you're coming.
[2246.43] Tony: Curry Tony is, you know, we're going to watch a drone display.
[2254.11] Tony: Is that what date is that Christmas in it?
[2258.75] Curry: 14th, wasn't it?
[2260.19] Jack: 14th.
[2260.75] Jack: Yeah.
[2264.94] Jack: I think they'll be done coming.
[2267.42] Tony: That's going to be quite interesting.
[2270.06] Jack: An old friend of ours is also going.
[2273.26] Jack: I believe for a surprise appearance.
[2277.98] Tony: No wonder who that is.
[2280.22] Curry: Yeah.
[2282.06] Curry: Trixie for me, because safety comes back that day.
[2286.1] Curry: That's all right.
[2288.02] Tony: Tony's off to Lake and Ethan.
[2290.74] Tony: Yeah, there's a lot going on in Lake and Ethan there and a few of the old bases.
[2298.1] Tony: I don't know what's going on.
[2299.38] Tony: Is it Russians or is it people just prattling around?
[2305.86] Curry: Tell us what you thought you saw or have seen or heard about.
[2309.62] Tony: For me, I've just seen it on the news.
[2314.34] Tony: Just seen a lot of drone activity over the RAF bases.
[2318.02] Tony: Well, actually, it's the USA bases.
[2321.86] Tony: It's the.
[2324.1] Curry: There does seem to be a bit of a spate of like, let's demonize drones again,
[2327.7] Curry: because I saw another thing about drones and prisons saying, oh, do you know
[2332.82] Curry: drones are being used to drop drugs into prisons?
[2334.9] Curry: Yeah, we've done that for ages.
[2336.66] Curry: And it's now a new story just about this saying prisons aren't protected themselves.
[2343.06] Curry: It's like, well, why does this come up again?
[2344.9] Curry: And now you're saying you've got reports of like trying to enter an American bases.
[2350.82] Tony: Yeah, they were the last, I think they were this month, 18th and 20th.
[2355.86] Tony: And then last night as well, I don't know about today, there's video footage over Lake and Ethan.
[2364.42] Tony: You can see F-15s coming into land and there's a drone flying across literally from left to right.
[2372.58] Tony: But they've got blinking lights on and stuff like this.
[2376.42] Tony: And the ones in America have said they were on the radar.
[2379.14] Tony: They were lawnmower size, 4000 foot up, and they could hear them.
[2386.96] Tony: So they were.
[2388.0] Curry: They can hear them over in F-15.
[2390.96] Curry: That's a noisy drone.
[2392.72] Tony: Who knows?
[2393.92] Tony: But drones don't have to be.
[2396.48] Tony: Harmonica is on the arm, slow it, blow it.
[2402.32] Tony: So I'm not sure what it is.
[2403.6] Tony: I don't know whether it's just scaremongering or people being idiots again or what.
[2409.84] Tony: I don't know.
[2412.4] Curry: I feel no idea.
[2413.36] Tony: It's fake news and it's not there, but it did look like there was one the other night.
[2418.08] Tony: It was just some geezer hanging out of his conservatory recording them.
[2423.76] Curry: Have you thought, in a rather less illegal way, have you thought about like,
[2429.76] Curry: might it be fun to sort of prank the general public into thinking there's UFOs there?
[2435.44] Curry: If you get your any Ds done properly, so you have a nice circle in your idea,
[2440.48] Curry: you can either do, do, do, do, or something and just fly it over some park.
[2445.28] Curry: Just so people like, look, do you have a foe?
[2447.92] Jack: Yeah.
[2452.0] Jack: Fish and roll down, you know, like tangling a few LED lights.
[2462.16] Curry: As long as you're like, up above like 100 feet, they won't hear it.
[2465.44] Curry: And if it's dark, they'll just see these, these lights and like, oh my god, there's an orb.
[2470.56] Curry: And before, you know, people claim of like having sex with the aliens there or being abducted or,
[2476.16] Curry: and you can show them how you still say no, you're just part of the conspiracy, man.
[2480.48] Curry: It's real. It's out there.
[2483.12] Tony: It is out there.
[2485.36] Tony: Already shown the t shirt off Frankie Frank's.
[2490.94] Jack: Did he recognize the color?
[2492.3] Jack: Because it's are available for men.
[2495.18] Curry: Yes, I am actually picking up a camper van tomorrow, which may
[2499.9] Curry: provide in the future years my mobile FPV base.
[2503.5] Jack: No way you guys turn into caravan people.
[2507.66] Curry: No, we are not van life people.
[2509.82] Curry: We are using fingers to swing it to you.
[2515.26] Jack: But there's room to take once as paper had enough of light traveling.
[2520.94] Jack: I suppose she if she leaves her Kindle in the caravan, will she then have to leave the caravan
[2530.08] Jack: behind camper van or caravan camper van.
[2536.72] Jack: No, you're gonna leave that life people.
[2539.12] Jack: Tony want Tony yearns for the van life.
[2543.44] Tony: He's got a tent on top.
[2546.8] Tony: I've got a tent on top.
[2548.16] Tony: Well, I'm using it for a wall.
[2549.68] Tony: But then I've got a brother with a caravan and a mother with a caravan.
[2554.64] Curry: Just put a bucket on the inside and you got yourself toilet.
[2557.36] Tony: What of my tent?
[2558.8] Jack: Well, I feel that in seconds, mate.
[2563.2] Tony: My brother's got a toilet in his van, so we don't have to borrow people's toilets.
[2568.32] Tony: He has got a bloody big van, to be fair.
[2572.64] Curry: Yeah, this one's supposed to sit on the drive because it's only six meters.
[2576.08] Curry: Fingers crossed the pits.
[2577.12] Curry: It's like some sandals next.
[2580.32] Curry: I don't think I'm that bad.
[2582.32] Curry: Not yet.
[2583.52] Jack: It's coming, people.
[2584.8] Jack: It's coming.
[2586.08] Jack: Don't trust them.
[2588.24] Jack: I've seen you in socks and sandals before.
[2590.4] Tony: Yeah.
[2592.08] Tony: They're yummy.
[2592.96] Jack: Yeah.
[2595.44] Jack: I don't own the sandals.
[2598.96] Jack: Flip flops.
[2600.8] Tony: I've never owned flip flops.
[2602.48] Jack: No, you're not.
[2603.12] Jack: It must be me then.
[2604.24] Tony: No.
[2608.72] Curry: It's all right to wear flip flops, but not with socks.
[2610.56] Curry: That's weird.
[2611.76] Curry: You can get some Japanese socks though, which have a lot of different sizes.
[2615.2] Curry: Which have the thing in the toe.
[2616.56] Curry: They don't work.
[2617.52] Jack: Yes.
[2619.04] Jack: I know.
[2619.52] Jack: I keep telling Cole.
[2620.64] Jack: Yeah.
[2620.96] Jack: Cole had a video of him with socks and flip flops.
[2624.48] Tony: I won't show you what I'm wearing then.
[2627.28] Tony: Why?
[2628.72] Tony: I'm wearing flip flops and socks.
[2630.8] Curry: It's literally what you're wearing right now is what you're accusing people of.
[2636.22] Tony: Yeah.
[2638.22] Curry: Flip flops and socks.
[2640.94] Curry: All right, Grandad, how far can you get your leg up?
[2642.94] Tony: I'm quite agile for my age.
[2649.42] Tony: Thank you very much.
[2655.98] Tony: I'm underneath my unit.
[2659.42] Curry: You are quite useful to me, Tony, because when people describe me as being a bit
[2663.9] Curry: infirm, I can say things like, well, look, I'm older than Tony and look at the state
[2667.66] Curry: of him.
[2667.9] Curry: He's falling to pieces.
[2670.94] Jack: I don't know, man.
[2671.74] Jack: That guy can clean a gutter lately.
[2675.58] Jack: He's done some glamour shots of the old business.
[2679.98] Jack: Are you vaping, Tony?
[2682.14] Tony: No, I'm just fiddling.
[2683.34] Tony: It's a GoPro folder.
[2684.94] Jack: I was going to say, what the hell?
[2686.7] Jack: I look like a vape.
[2690.48] Jack: I can't imagine Tony vaping at the age of 50.
[2694.4] Tony: Disgusting.
[2696.32] Tony: I think I might start smoking a pipe or something.
[2701.81] Tony: Yeah, sure.
[2702.37] Tony: I'm a bit of old open in there.
[2706.77] Tony: Sit out on my rocking chair out the front.
[2715.94] Curry: Caroline is building a 6S FPV plane.
[2719.06] Curry: Are you going for a super speedie?
[2720.98] Curry: Cool.
[2723.95] Tony: Pipes in a Cuban.
[2725.55] Tony: Yeah.
[2727.47] Tony: Yeah, what are you doing, Z?
[2728.67] Tony: Are you doing a fast one?
[2731.63] Tony: Yeah.
[2731.95] Curry: If you look at the videos from Overgoogly Bird,
[2734.75] Curry: what have these called, of the extreme fast cleaning.
[2740.27] Tony: Has he stopped posting or has he changed?
[2743.39] Tony: I haven't seen that for ages.
[2745.07] Tony: I'm sure I've subscribed to him.
[2747.31] Curry: Yeah, well, he's had a kid, so he's not done an awful lot lately.
[2752.35] Curry: All right.
[2752.99] Curry: That's probably why, then.
[2753.95] Curry: There's some children for you.
[2755.87] Curry: I had to get up and smoke.
[2758.88] Curry: They said they'll be calling you every night
[2760.72] Curry: so they can have money.
[2761.6] Curry: And I've broken my laptop.
[2762.88] Curry: And what had to do with this?
[2766.0] Curry: Never answered.
[2766.64] Curry: Yeah.
[2769.58] Tony: Nearly as dear as dogs with their teeth falling out and they spend thousands.
[2774.54] Jack: That's a weirdly expensive spot.
[2778.56] Jack: You miss her.
[2779.28] Jack: Don't lie, Currie.
[2782.08] Jack: Has her prices come down?
[2785.36] Jack: Has her what?
[2786.96] Jack: Her prices come down.
[2789.44] Curry: No, she won't work for me.
[2791.92] Curry: It's just far too expensive.
[2793.6] Curry: Oh, my God.
[2796.53] Curry: Well, I seem to be the beta test for all the stuff.
[2798.29] Curry: What do you think of this?
[2799.49] Curry: A bit washed out.
[2800.21] Curry: I've changed it now.
[2800.77] Curry: What's this?
[2801.33] Curry: I like that better.
[2802.13] Curry: Okay.
[2803.65] Curry: I'm doing this app.
[2805.73] Curry: I have to do this on this and it just goes on.
[2809.41] Curry: How do I animate a dice roll?
[2813.01] Curry: Probably do that in After Effects.
[2814.53] Curry: Yeah.
[2815.01] UNKNOWN: Okay.
[2818.53] Jack: That is hilarious.
[2819.49] Jack: How is the game developing going?
[2824.05] Curry: Quite slowly, I took some time off from July.
[2827.89] Curry: I'm kind of should be going back into it now.
[2831.97] Curry: I started watching a 50 minute lecture on what a quaternion is.
[2838.05] Jack: Right.
[2841.49] Jack: What's happening?
[2845.73] Jack: Sorry.
[2848.53] Jack: I forgot I'd done that.
[2852.77] Jack: Happening, dudes.
[2855.89] Jack: That's the line, isn't it?
[2857.57] Jack: What's up, dudes?
[2858.37] Jack: Yeah, that's it.
[2860.85] Tony: So Caroline's getting a faster plane.
[2863.25] Tony: She's making a faster plane.
[2865.73] Tony: So she was getting chased by a quad and he complained I wasn't flying fast enough.
[2874.61] Jack: Big rockets on it.
[2875.97] Jack: Caroline, show them what fast is.
[2881.81] Jack: Too close for missiles.
[2883.17] Jack: Switch into guns.
[2884.45] Tony: I can slightly hear a new repeat of you, Jay, I think.
[2892.37] Jack: Have you got LDO in the background in one of your tabs?
[2897.17] Tony: No, I can hear something.
[2899.25] Tony: It's not very loud, am I?
[2901.65] Tony: And we're nearly ending, so.
[2906.21] Tony: Probably because I've got headphones on.
[2909.41] Curry: Not from general things.
[2911.65] Jack: Tony's like, I can hear voices.
[2915.65] Jack: To let me do things again.
[2921.33] Tony: It's not that bad yet.
[2922.53] Tony: I had to bury them in the woods.
[2925.81] Tony: We don't talk about that anymore.
[2927.57] Tony: That will teach.
[2934.18] Tony: They were playing up the other day.
[2935.7] Tony: Actually, I had them syringed.
[2937.22] Tony: It was horrible.
[2938.9] Tony: Come on.
[2940.98] Curry: Oh, you really get a microsection.
[2942.74] Curry: That's the way to go.
[2943.94] Tony: No, I've had that and I felt sick and couldn't drive home for about an hour.
[2948.34] Tony: It's horrific.
[2950.26] Curry: Oh, when I get mine syringed, I find that quite disorientating
[2955.06] Curry: because they bugger up all your thingies, but the micro syringe is like,
[2958.82] Curry: for anybody who doesn't know, a micro suctioning is like somebody
[2962.1] Curry: puts a little hoover in your ear and just this massive piece of wax comes out, which is.
[2967.46] Curry: It's horrible.
[2969.14] Curry: Absolutely disgusting.
[2970.82] Tony: They actually stopped doing it, but my doctors,
[2975.86] Tony: because people couldn't drive home because it was throwing them off.
[2980.02] Tony: Like me, I was just feeling so sick.
[2984.26] Tony: I just wanted to lay down on the floor for an hour.
[2989.14] Tony: It was horrible.
[2990.02] Tony: So they don't do it anymore.
[2994.26] Curry: What do they do with blocked ears?
[2997.38] Tony: Just a normal squirting the water in.
[2999.78] Curry: Don't worry.
[3000.18] Curry: We'll have that euphemism law coming.
[3003.06] Curry: We can age it all coming in soon.
[3004.42] Tony: I had to do it privately because it was like three week waiting list on the NHS
[3009.3] Tony: and I couldn't hear nothing.
[3010.34] Tony: And I was like, this is ridiculous.
[3012.66] Tony: We've gone pay for it.
[3015.62] Jack: I went, I took the Dr.
[3017.94] Jack: Tony approach and Tony did get a thank you phone call from me being like, oh my God.
[3030.34] Tony: A week later, mine blocks up, Jack.
[3033.38] Jack: Oh no.
[3034.02] Jack: Don't tell us we've, we've synced.
[3036.02] Jack: We're on the same cycle now.
[3044.26] Jack: The whole estrogen again.
[3049.06] Tony: So that's a little bit.
[3051.3] Jack: I know.
[3052.58] Jack: Sorry, boy.
[3057.7] Jack: That's done him.
[3058.5] Jack: That is actually done him.
[3060.18] Jack: Have you missed LDO?
[3062.42] Tony: I guess.
[3063.62] Tony: I still watch it or do, you know, do something in the background and have you lot in the background.
[3068.18] Tony: You know, quite a lot of people do that or build quads and listen to us in the background.
[3074.9] Tony: How many people are building stuff and listening to us?
[3078.26] Tony: Chalk chat rubbish at the moment.
[3080.82] Tony: Is there anyone building?
[3082.74] Curry: Most of the time, Jack's messing with stuff whilst actually on the show.
[3086.98] Tony: Well, he's normally watching cat videos or soldering videos.
[3091.22] Jack: It's mainly cats.
[3092.74] Jack: It's, um, it's a mixture between, uh, Frank and, uh, Clive.
[3100.82] Jack: They sent me hilarious cat videos.
[3104.02] Jack: There you go.
[3106.34] Tony: Someone's, uh, someone, someone, Martin McFly is making a whoop gate.
[3114.66] UNKNOWN: See.
[3115.14] Curry: And numbskullafvbs is asking question any LDO Christmas present specials this year.
[3122.34] Tony: But what was our Christmas special stuff last year?
[3125.78] Tony: I don't know.
[3126.58] Curry: I can't remember any Jack.
[3128.58] Curry: Any idea?
[3129.38] Curry: What do we do?
[3130.18] Curry: I'm sure we bought something or that was another year.
[3134.34] Curry: We just said that Humbug this time.
[3139.46] Tony: I do say it for Christmas.
[3141.22] Tony: If you, what day would it be every year?
[3146.34] Curry: No, I know that.
[3147.06] Tony: What day would we be on?
[3148.74] Tony: Uh, it would be the, do we do wank socks Christmas, weren't they, weren't they a thing
[3160.02] Tony: that people bought?
[3160.98] Tony: I think that was an idea for a Christmas present, but I don't think they would go
[3165.06] Curry: around attempting to buy individual socks and so I said, no, they come in pairs.
[3171.54] Curry: Yeah.
[3171.86] Jack: They wouldn't, they wouldn't do individual socks and tried.
[3176.66] Jack: We tried.
[3180.66] Jack: We did try.
[3181.62] Jack: No one, everyone.
[3185.46] Jack: I think Frank got a stern email back about insisting on
[3194.18] Jack: having individual socks and that he's the idiot.
[3200.5] Jack: So clearly the manufacturing industry hasn't got a sense of humor.
[3206.74] Jack: But yeah.
[3207.62] Tony: Jack's voice makes me want to solder more carefully for some reason.
[3212.66] Tony: I don't know why that is.
[3214.98] Jack: Cut your wire the length of the parts.
[3222.42] Tony: Is that your soldering voice?
[3225.38] Jack: Yeah.
[3227.14] Jack: Paul Cole got, got it probably the worst, but he does solder really well now.
[3236.66] Jack: He got, he got taught right the first, first go.
[3242.26] Tony: So I had to do my, get my fire up my old soldering on any other day.
[3247.22] Tony: No way.
[3247.46] Tony: That's the old thing.
[3248.66] Tony: Not for anything.
[3251.06] Tony: My gutter cleaner motor went wrong.
[3256.74] Jack: So Tony got to learn about how inductors can dump their charge all at once
[3263.46] Jack: because he decided to not unroll an extension lead and didn't unroll.
[3273.7] Jack: I didn't unroll the wound up wire on top of the hoover.
[3282.34] Jack: And then when he plugged it in, uh, yeah, and then switched it on.
[3287.94] Jack: Yeah.
[3288.26] Jack: Massive coil inductor just full on dumped everything that it had
[3296.42] Jack: through the capacitor and motor.
[3299.3] Jack: How did you get a new motor?
[3300.82] Jack: How much was the new motor?
[3302.74] Tony: 130 quid.
[3308.56] Jack: Was it from the, the same people we made over or was it a generic one?
[3314.0] Tony: Yeah.
[3314.24] Tony: It was, uh, it was quite easy to install was unclip this, clip that in,
[3320.16] Tony: put it back together, screw it up.
[3321.44] Jack: It weren't too bad, but it's not going to be just the capacitor.
[3328.4] Tony: No, no.
[3328.96] Tony: I was gutted.
[3329.76] Tony: I just thought it would be because that was the only bit of brown and smoky.
[3336.14] Jack: No, man.
[3336.78] Jack: Couple of couple of thousand volts.
[3338.7] Jack: You probably dumped into that thing.
[3341.18] Tony: Yeah.
[3343.5] Jack: Wrap your just have different lengths of extension lead.
[3350.46] Tony: I don't always.
[3351.66] Tony: Unravel it though.
[3353.02] Tony: I think it was because I use two as well.
[3355.98] Tony: Two extension lead, the guys, extension lead, then my extension lead, then the
[3360.94] Tony: got back and I didn't unroll that car back.
[3364.54] Tony: Oh yeah.
[3366.94] Tony: Don't be on fire.
[3367.98] Tony: We're all one.
[3368.7] Tony: Yeah.
[3370.46] Jack: Yeah.
[3370.86] Jack: Don't do what Tony did.
[3373.34] Tony: Yes, I'm going to unravel it all, but I'm glad I fixed it.
[3379.62] Tony: Well, me and Bruce fixed it, but it didn't cost another gutter cleaner.
[3385.46] Jack: It was funny.
[3386.58] Jack: My mom messaged me and was like, how long before they start watching Lee Evans?
[3390.9] Jack: And then two hours later, I get a message being like, told you.
[3396.1] Jack: There you go.
[3397.94] Jack: Thank you.
[3399.54] Jack: Unfortunately, that is all we've got time for.
[3403.3] Jack: Massive shout out to Fedor for sending me some files.
[3407.78] Jack: Thank you to everyone in the chat.
[3409.94] Jack: You've been listening to LDO.
[3411.7] Jack: We've been sponsored by our lovely Patreons.
[3415.14] Jack: Our hosts are tonight.
[3416.42] Jack: Everyone's over at Curry Kitten.
[3419.38] Jack: My darling wife.
[3422.26] Jack: And I'll be bright until I fly.
[3424.5] Jack: Thank you.
[3425.22] Jack: Good night.