=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 499 ===
Title: LDO 499 - with Andrew Lawrence FPV
Recorded: 2025-03-20
Hosts: Stephen "Belrik" Howell, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash, Tony "TheTonstar1" Marchant, Wayne "CurryKitten" Andrews, Andrew "Frank" Hyams
Guest(s): Andrew Lawrence
Total audience: 1,018
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYMMsUap7jk); SoundCloud (http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2060694960-letsdroneout-ldo-499-with-andrew-lawrence-fpv.mp3)
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[0.0] Jack: Hello, and you're listening to Let's Drone Out, a special thank you to our lovely Patreons
[6.28] Jack: that help donate so that we can pay the editor to remove the swear words and silly things
[11.36] Jack: we say.
[13.0] Jack: Massive thank you to…
[14.4] Jack: Carlos Campos!
[16.12] Frank: Art Faulkner!
[17.84] Frank: Sam Dahmer.
[19.68] Frank: On with the show.
[20.68] Jack: Hello and welcome, you're listening to Let's Drone Out.
[55.98] Jack: Right, we are joined by everyone's favourite, Curry Kitten.
[60.34] Jack: Hello!
[61.34] Jack: The man with the mustache, Steven.
[63.54] Jack: Even hell.
[64.54] Jack: Our wonderful guest tonight is Andrew Lyons.
[67.22] Jack: Oh yeah, how's it going?
[70.1] Jack: And my darling wife, Tony.
[73.3] Andrew Lawrence: Boo!
[74.3] Jack: No, Bonjour.
[75.74] Jack: Bonjour!
[76.74] Jack: And I owe your host, Beautelei Fly.
[81.74] Jack: Our guest, hello, how are you?
[84.98] Jack: We're a new daddy, are we here?
[86.74] Jack: Yep.
[87.74] Jack: How's that going?
[88.74] Andrew Lawrence: Said a little kid, probably like six months, coming up six months now, so not much sleep
[94.86] Andrew Lawrence: but quite a life-changing overall.
[98.42] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[99.42] Andrew Lawrence: All good?
[100.42] Andrew Lawrence: Oh, all good.
[102.42] Jack: Yeah, like we were all absolutely stunned that you, we found out you actually listened
[109.34] Jack: to us dickheads and I like, we are so sorry.
[113.9] Andrew Lawrence: No, no, every time I'm in the like, I don't watch the live stream but I listen to it every
[119.5] Andrew Lawrence: time I'm driving in my van, up and down, three and everywhere, like, I don't know.
[124.46] Stephen: Oh, you get the clean version?
[126.62] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, probably, yes, for the best.
[129.3] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[130.3] Andrew Lawrence: I love it, man, there's hardly any drone like shows or podcasts or anything anymore, really,
[137.94] Andrew Lawrence: so I don't know.
[139.26] Andrew Lawrence: It's hard to survive.
[140.26] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[141.26] Andrew Lawrence: It's getting tough.
[142.7] Tony: That made ten years talking complete and utter.
[147.22] Curry: I remember last time, officially, we were the fourth best but some of those people might
[152.74] Tony: have died by now if we got a year since they didn't left.
[156.46] Jack: Who wrote that, that we were fourth and best?
[160.34] Jack: Maybe we should email them.
[161.34] Jack: It was on some blog post or something, wasn't it?
[163.78] Jack: Yeah.
[164.78] Jack: Can you find that?
[165.78] Jack: Can you have a little look-see though and like be like, can you update it because we're
[173.18] Jack: we survived our ignorance.
[175.14] Stephen: I don't think there's anyone that even really does a drone podcast.
[178.34] Stephen: There's YouTube channels that have like regular events, but there's no one that does a podcast
[183.46] Stephen: that has numbered episodes.
[186.9] Jack: So, Andy, you have been doing some incredible stuff.
[192.14] Jack: I wasn't given any show notes, but I hear that you have been chasing around very fast
[198.14] Jack: cars with something that looks like a penis.
[201.18] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, I know I've been doing all the usually like F1 testing.
[208.14] Andrew Lawrence: So, usually, most of the time in Silverstone and then we go to Bahrain.
[214.86] Andrew Lawrence: But this year, it was because they had the big like F1 event in London.
[220.74] Andrew Lawrence: Most of the sort of testing and filming was done in Bahrain this year.
[226.18] Andrew Lawrence: So, no, it's always good to know quite a lot of pressure and sort of high stakes.
[233.42] Andrew Lawrence: And, yeah, just built with one of my friends called Toby, one of these.
[241.58] Stephen: It does look like a spaceship based on an existing design or your own?
[246.5] Andrew Lawrence: It's a bit of a, I don't know, hybrid of a few, really.
[253.3] Andrew Lawrence: It's with, I think he's called Lake Maxabelle, is it?
[259.22] Andrew Lawrence: Or similar from South Africa.
[262.62] Tony: And then...
[263.62] Tony: Did he do a green one of them?
[265.9] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[269.74] Andrew Lawrence: That sort of mixed with some of Quadmover's stuff and then the guys from Dutch
[276.7] Andrew Lawrence: Drone Gods that did Red Bull.
[280.1] Tony: Oh, yeah, they did.
[281.9] Stephen: You've got a bunch of different influences from different people.
[287.82] Stephen: Could you kind of walk through what influences you took from where when you
[291.58] Stephen: were building it out?
[292.74] Stephen: Because a lot of people have tried to do similar designs, right?
[296.06] Stephen: Oh, yeah.
[296.54] Stephen: I think straight lines lead to some for other goals.
[299.78] Stephen: Yeah.
[300.62] Stephen: We're number two.
[302.3] Jack: We're number two.
[304.46] Curry: According to this website, which seems very good, 15 Best Drone podcasts,
[309.22] Curry: we're now number two.
[310.74] Curry: He's gone up.
[312.38] Curry: Well, who's telling you the other one?
[314.5] Curry: Ask Drone You, whatever that is.
[317.62] Curry: Are they still running?
[319.66] Tony: Ask Drone You.
[322.06] Curry: Well, this is a list from March the 11th, 2025, so...
[326.14] Tony: They've got 90,000 Instagram followers.
[330.1] Curry: Tony, you're going to have to get on their own influence.
[333.82] Curry: Can they read all of those too?
[335.98] Curry: Yes, but we have got 71 Twitter followers, which is about 5.7K.
[342.3] Stephen: They've been going since 2015.
[344.22] Stephen: How come I haven't even heard of them?
[345.82] Stephen: Interesting.
[346.34] Stephen: Don't think they're going to have none of us either.
[348.5] Stephen: Okay.
[350.54] Stephen: Sorry, sorry.
[351.14] Stephen: Could we get back to Andy?
[352.46] Stephen: Andy and his wonderful airframe, all these different people.
[356.14] Stephen: And he's been influenced by a whole bunch of things and he's drawn something up
[360.62] Stephen: himself there or with a buddy of his.
[362.74] Stephen: Could you walk us through kind of what bits you took from where and what
[367.26] Stephen: you were trying to build?
[368.82] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[369.34] Andrew Lawrence: So, well, Chris Rosser as well released one, but just the fact that you
[375.86] Andrew Lawrence: can't change any of the, like, well, the 3D print files aren't accessible
[382.42] Andrew Lawrence: to everyone and it always ends up that you need to alter little things such
[390.1] Andrew Lawrence: as like the camera angle on these trying to fly, I dunno, it probably goes up to
[395.54] Andrew Lawrence: like, well, it can go up to like 70 degree angle and not having like a
[402.9] Andrew Lawrence: servo mounted in there so you can take off with a lot shallower camera
[407.66] Andrew Lawrence: angle is like a massive thing.
[410.1] Andrew Lawrence: So we sort of, um, just, I dunno, took an influence from a lot of, uh, different
[417.02] Andrew Lawrence: rockets and then it's culmination of, uh, the mall together, I guess.
[423.02] Andrew Lawrence: So did you say you've got a servo and not got servo?
[425.34] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, I'll take the shell off so you can see the inside of it.
[430.06] Jack: There's, um, is it, I'm all right.
[431.82] Jack: I'm thinking when you fly that fast, you're on roll switch.
[437.98] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, it's, it feels more like a wing or something, like some sort of plane
[443.74] Andrew Lawrence: that like when you go too slow, it feels like you're stalling, if that makes sense.
[449.34] Andrew Lawrence: So it always needs to be sort of a reason.
[453.58] Andrew Lawrence: Well, when the camera angles, it's all like very dependent on the camera
[457.66] Andrew Lawrence: angle, to be honest, when it's a low camera angle, doesn't feel like, uh, I
[464.5] Andrew Lawrence: think it's probably just a separation of the camera being so far away from the
[468.14] Andrew Lawrence: motors, you know, so high up, like you can fly it with probably 30 degrees and you
[473.54] Andrew Lawrence: can do split S's and like loops and stuff fine, but it just feels, I don't know.
[480.46] Stephen: Where's the battery and all that?
[483.94] Stephen: Innocent.
[484.54] Stephen: Yeah.
[485.58] Stephen: I mean, how far away from the motors, I'm wondering.
[488.7] Jack: You must go through so many of them.
[491.74] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, it depends how you fly in and what speeds really.
[495.7] Stephen: Regular 6S pack or anything nuts?
[498.34] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, that's 8S.
[500.06] Andrew Lawrence: 8S.
[500.9] Stephen: Yeah.
[502.3] Curry: So looking at the design of it is, is the big thing that's slowing regular quads
[509.66] Curry: down the aerodynamics, because all I see on that is like, it's a, it's a pointy
[513.58] Curry: shape and the legs are sort of very curved.
[516.98] Curry: So the air is going to officially go around it.
[519.34] Stephen: It looks almost like a regular frame underneath it, right?
[523.06] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[523.34] Andrew Lawrence: It's just like a solid X, like six mil carbon plate.
[528.7] Andrew Lawrence: And then we've got vertical, like, uh, carbon plates, obviously to house a
[533.38] Andrew Lawrence: battery of straps, and then got all the VTX, like the receiver.
[537.46] Stephen: So you've got like a normal looking frame, but instead of the arms coming
[540.42] Stephen: off in an X, like on one angle, they're like coming off 90 degrees from the
[545.26] Stephen: ass of it instead of halfway along it.
[547.7] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[548.58] Andrew Lawrence: It was more because it's quite the size of the batteries without cutting out the
[553.1] Andrew Lawrence: middle of like the frame or having arms to join, um, obviously you need to put
[561.26] Andrew Lawrence: the battery like we tried, I'm in the process at the moment of making another
[566.94] Andrew Lawrence: smaller one that isn't probably as fast, but still like more aero for, um, doing
[575.1] Andrew Lawrence: sort of high speed stuff, but not like, it's just more efficient, I guess.
[581.06] Andrew Lawrence: But for like slower speed than like, I don't know, F1 cars or, uh, like
[589.54] Andrew Lawrence: MotoGP or something similar to that.
[592.34] Andrew Lawrence: So sorry, go ahead.
[596.94] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, yeah, it's just, uh, the speed of it, this at a moment, it's still quite
[603.26] Andrew Lawrence: in early development really, but, um, you can do about 370 kilometers an hour.
[610.78] Stephen: But what speed does that come into its own versus like a regular racing
[614.94] Stephen: quad X layout type, I don't know what you call that because it looks like an
[618.14] Stephen: X, but it's not an X it's a rocket style.
[620.9] Stephen: I guess, but what sort of speeds do you find that starts to become what you
[625.5] Stephen: need instead of a regular, you know, H frame or racing style quad?
[632.38] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, do you mean sort of speed wise or yeah, when is the handling of that
[637.06] Stephen: suddenly like, because obviously it's going to be a beast at low speeds and
[641.26] Stephen: you've got to like, kind of land it very carefully and everything.
[645.54] Stephen: But when you get past a certain threshold, I'd have thought that
[649.26] Stephen: becomes what you need and otherwise you're just a hundred percent throttle
[653.14] Stephen: all the time on a traditional freight, right?
[655.98] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, I think it's just, it feels like a lot, you're not pushing it to go
[660.38] Andrew Lawrence: like anywhere near as fast, like today as, uh, seeing others, like some guys
[667.78] Andrew Lawrence: that obviously fly some of these, like, well, then it's them probably more X
[676.78] Andrew Lawrence: eight, the next four, uh, versions and they can get like nearly 400, uh,
[683.18] Andrew Lawrence: kilometers, but they just do it without arrow and it just like absolutely
[688.38] Andrew Lawrence: destroys the batteries.
[691.26] Andrew Lawrence: Whereas this like so far the batteries, uh, still seem pretty solid and
[696.7] Andrew Lawrence: haven't even like, um, there's hardly any puff in and all like of deformed.
[702.18] Andrew Lawrence: So it's, it, I mean, it's only pulling probably, I know you say only, but like,
[707.7] Andrew Lawrence: um, between 60 and 70 amps.
[713.45] Stephen: Uh, what like a cruise speed?
[716.33] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, that's at full throttle.
[718.01] Andrew Lawrence: A full throttle?
[719.09] Stephen: Yeah.
[719.33] Andrew Lawrence: That's not bad, is it?
[720.61] Stephen: No.
[721.09] Andrew Lawrence: So it's that it's like actually quite conservative, really like the speeds
[726.37] Andrew Lawrence: that it's, uh, doing, but it probably can get about four minutes, probably
[734.89] Andrew Lawrence: between a hundred and 150, uh, like plumbers an hour and running a 2.28
[741.17] Stephen: tests, so four minutes on a 2.28 tests.
[744.41] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[744.93] Andrew Lawrence: And then you can probably do about three, like full throttle punches.
[751.33] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, they're around like 50, like three, six, three straights.
[756.37] Stephen: Right.
[756.57] Stephen: Yeah.
[756.89] Stephen: Follow them down the straights.
[758.61] Stephen: Wow.
[758.97] Jack: Yeah.
[759.97] Jack: What do you see you got in there?
[762.09] Jack: Uh, it's Foxy, uh, Reaper.
[765.33] Andrew Lawrence: Wow.
[767.33] Andrew Lawrence: Wow.
[767.65] Andrew Lawrence: And you haven't killed anyone.
[771.13] Andrew Lawrence: It's been like fine so far.
[773.73] Stephen: But when you say like 60 to 70 amps, that's like total, right?
[778.45] Stephen: Yeah.
[779.69] Stephen: Wow.
[780.41] Stephen: That's yeah.
[782.09] Stephen: That's actually, cause I mean, we've all done a hundred plus amp punch outs.
[785.73] Stephen: That's actually, uh, surprisingly efficient.
[788.49] Stephen: Okay.
[788.73] Stephen: You're an eight S rather than six S, but you know, even so.
[792.81] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[793.05] Andrew Lawrence: So it's, they're all like pretty off the shelf parts really, but it's obviously
[797.49] Andrew Lawrence: the shell makes like such, like.
[801.01] Andrew Lawrence: We've only probably been messing about with it for about, I don't know,
[804.17] Andrew Lawrence: coming up to two months or something like that as well as like, well,
[809.17] Andrew Lawrence: obviously doing all the regular stuff.
[811.13] Andrew Lawrence: We're still, it's still like loads of prototyping that go on all the
[814.33] Andrew Lawrence: times, like, uh, the other day we tried to make, um, I don't know if you can see
[818.41] Tony: that sort of a, oh,
[824.17] Jack: no, it's, um, uh, dimple.
[826.97] Jack: You got the old dimple press out.
[829.05] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[830.25] Jack: Uh, as in golf, it's like mimic golf balls.
[834.49] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[834.77] Andrew Lawrence: It's a minute just to see if, if it would make any, but I don't know.
[839.65] Andrew Lawrence: It is quite tricky, but it did go 10 kilometers faster with this, but I
[843.81] Andrew Lawrence: don't know if that's because of possibly that it's a lot lighter, um, the
[850.33] Andrew Lawrence: actual shell cause it's got so many dimples.
[852.33] Andrew Lawrence: And so I know it's, it's quite hard to test, especially because the
[858.45] Andrew Lawrence: wind changes so much.
[860.81] Andrew Lawrence: There's a lot of variables really to know, like without spending loads on
[865.41] Andrew Lawrence: doing like fluid dynamic Alice's to all the time.
[871.25] Tony: Is there any air ducts into the battery compartment or anything like that
[875.53] Tony: to cool the battery down?
[878.8] Jack: Must be like the lens that weather.
[880.92] Tony: Yeah.
[881.28] Andrew Lawrence: There's quite, if really, if you're like, look down at it, there's a fair,
[884.76] Andrew Lawrence: it's fairly big, like it does get
[886.64] Andrew Lawrence: knackered up warm in there.
[889.92] Andrew Lawrence: Um, but it's, it's fine really of all the times.
[894.28] Andrew Lawrence: It's impressively efficient.
[895.84] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[896.64] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[897.44] Stephen: It's just, so obviously the headlines, the speed, but you're able to actually
[902.36] Stephen: follow cars round corners, which is impressive because most of the people
[905.64] Stephen: that build a craft like this, they're obsessed with like, let's just get it
[909.12] Stephen: to a hundred percent throttle, we'll get the hero number.
[911.44] Stephen: That's it.
[912.0] Stephen: But you're actually following stuff around a fairly convoluted tight track.
[917.56] Stephen: Um, how did you design it to do that as well as those impressive straight line
[923.48] Stephen: numbers?
[925.12] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, it's, it's more from, I don't know, say looking at the Dutch drone
[928.96] Andrew Lawrence: gods and rather now the batch, well, and just like general rockets always
[937.4] Andrew Lawrence: a thrust is usually on the bottom, isn't it?
[940.12] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[940.36] Andrew Lawrence: Rockets are not famous for turning.
[942.24] Andrew Lawrence: No, but it honestly doesn't feel like, uh, too bad.
[949.08] Andrew Lawrence: I thought it was going to be horrendous, but like probably, but especially
[953.52] Andrew Lawrence: when you have low, I think the camera angle dictates a lot of how it actually
[958.4] Andrew Lawrence: feels like it flies, to be honest.
[961.56] Andrew Lawrence: Um, but like low camera angles and even a high ones, the weird thing is it
[969.48] Andrew Lawrence: feels like as a turbo, I guess.
[972.2] Andrew Lawrence: So like, and as well, like throttling down to catch really fast things just
[978.32] Andrew Lawrence: feels really like a natural, I don't know, cause you just think we've cooked.
[984.08] Andrew Lawrence: Well, cause of fly quad, you're following some incredibly expensive performance
[988.28] Stephen: car and you're like, surely I don't need to slow down.
[991.12] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[991.84] Andrew Lawrence: But just, I don't know, throttling down towards the ground just feels kind
[996.04] Andrew Lawrence: of wrong if you know what I mean.
[998.6] Andrew Lawrence: And then there's not like, cause you the speed of it, you just, it's so easy
[1004.44] Andrew Lawrence: to overshoot the mark because you're coming in hot to it and you obviously
[1008.48] Andrew Lawrence: you're not going to slow down enough to it.
[1010.48] Andrew Lawrence: Like gently to just sort of, yeah, there's, there's still a lot, a lot to
[1016.64] Andrew Lawrence: learn with it, to be honest.
[1018.64] Stephen: So it doesn't like arrow breaks like a normal drone would if that's the
[1022.08] Stephen: side effect of all the arrow on it, it doesn't have the drag and the natural
[1026.76] Stephen: tendency to break itself to slow down.
[1029.8] Andrew Lawrence: It does de-accelerate fast, but I think it's just cause the speeds are so much
[1034.92] Andrew Lawrence: faster than you used to.
[1036.48] Andrew Lawrence: It's just, especially without like, it's so like a flown around an empty
[1042.68] Andrew Lawrence: field so many times, but you just need so much experience, I guess, flying
[1048.96] Andrew Lawrence: it with, well, tracking something that is actually fast enough to like,
[1056.2] Andrew Lawrence: warrant doing it with this.
[1058.44] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[1059.04] Andrew Lawrence: There's quite a big sort of learning curve.
[1061.36] Andrew Lawrence: It feels like you're starting all over again, you know, when you first like,
[1065.28] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know, filming, like your mates is flying about.
[1069.48] Andrew Lawrence: It's quite easy when you start off to overshoot or to like lose them really
[1073.28] Andrew Lawrence: easy and it just feels like you've gone back to sort of square one on that, in
[1076.76] Andrew Lawrence: that sort of instance, really.
[1079.76] Curry: Did you have really experimentation on, on props?
[1083.8] Curry: I asked cause a friend of mine who used to fly really fast wings said when, when
[1089.32] Curry: the props are spinning really quickly, you actually have to reduce the pitch
[1092.88] Curry: else they, they, they're not catching any air.
[1095.24] Curry: I'm just wondering if you're running sort of regular props or you.
[1099.8] Andrew Lawrence: There's some like, um, these ones are newer, like HQ, uh, I think they're five
[1105.88] Andrew Lawrence: two by eight, uh, pitch by blades.
[1110.56] Curry: So then they're pretty like, yeah.
[1113.92] Curry: Quite a heavy pitch though.
[1115.0] Curry: Yeah.
[1117.04] Jack: But, um, stop some flattening out, I guess.
[1120.88] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, definitely.
[1121.6] Andrew Lawrence: It needs to be like, um, and they're like nylon infused carbon, nothing.
[1128.76] Andrew Lawrence: So you need like really stiff props, like, uh, you, you usual sort of like racing
[1135.4] Andrew Lawrence: ones or whatever, you can hear it.
[1136.72] Andrew Lawrence: They just flatten out and you just don't get anywhere near the top
[1139.48] Andrew Lawrence: speeds for anything similar to how to do it.
[1141.76] Stephen: So like, oh, five of props or anything and saying, yeah.
[1145.68] Andrew Lawrence: No.
[1146.72] Andrew Lawrence: So, uh, yeah, it's, it's, I don't know.
[1150.0] Andrew Lawrence: It is quite, it's, they're all like really accessible parts that you can
[1154.16] Andrew Lawrence: buy, I mean, it's not super specialist, I guess, in all respects.
[1161.96] Stephen: Yeah.
[1162.2] Stephen: I think I'm running that for all probably an older version of that ESC and
[1165.64] Stephen: my seven inch bird, the, uh, the Fox here eight S one.
[1169.44] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1170.0] Andrew Lawrence: They're like, I dunno, they're pretty bomb proof overall, to be honest.
[1174.76] Andrew Lawrence: Few of their flight controllers have had recently, uh, like had noisy gyros,
[1178.84] Andrew Lawrence: but just, I think that's like all flight controllers seem to be as of recent,
[1184.24] Andrew Lawrence: to be honest.
[1186.36] Stephen: Well, it just happens because people experimenting with new designs
[1189.16] Stephen: and that takes a while to settle down.
[1190.84] Stephen: Unfortunately, those, uh, those nice old MP6 thousands, they, uh, they
[1195.2] Stephen: were quite noise resistant and move away from them caused everyone to have
[1199.64] Stephen: to redesign everything.
[1201.6] Stephen: Yeah.
[1201.92] Stephen: It's a bit of a throwing at the wall and seeing what sticks or layout.
[1206.6] Stephen: Yeah.
[1207.08] Andrew Lawrence: But now another thing that is being like, um, really sort of, uh,
[1211.96] Andrew Lawrence: useful with the timing of this is just the DJI for coming out.
[1215.56] Andrew Lawrence: Just the quality of that and meaning that only have one camera to deal with
[1219.36] Andrew Lawrence: instead of sort of messing around with sort of naked GoPros within it.
[1223.56] Andrew Lawrence: And it just means the whole is obviously can be a lot smaller.
[1228.6] Andrew Lawrence: It just makes it a lot simpler, really.
[1231.2] Andrew Lawrence: How's the old full video quality being received?
[1233.36] Andrew Lawrence: Are people happy with it?
[1235.12] Andrew Lawrence: I think because it's a bit of a specialist like drone, like, because
[1240.64] Andrew Lawrence: when you, even with the GoPros, when you're going so fast, there is like
[1243.92] Andrew Lawrence: small micro vibrations and whatever happening and there's like a lot of
[1248.92] Andrew Lawrence: blur, so the actual, the quality for, I don't know, unless you were a color
[1255.92] Andrew Lawrence: grader, you would probably never know the difference.
[1258.56] Andrew Lawrence: So I think between a GoPro and the quality of that, to be honest.
[1264.76] Andrew Lawrence: And just, I don't know as well.
[1266.08] Andrew Lawrence: The video link on the Oh four is just crazy.
[1269.16] Andrew Lawrence: It's just like half the time you don't even have to think I'm a flying
[1273.52] Andrew Lawrence: behind something and the way around the whole track.
[1278.44] Stephen: Or do you have to like work within the same stretch and double back on yourself?
[1281.92] Stephen: How does that work out?
[1283.04] Stephen: Silverstone's not, not too big, is it?
[1286.44] Andrew Lawrence: No, it's not like, um, again, you'd have to have a repeater, like if, um, cause
[1292.8] Andrew Lawrence: walks now they've just brought out, um, one avenue, the repeater for it.
[1298.32] Andrew Lawrence: Um, but as well, especially for, uh, um, the F1 there's so much, um, like around
[1307.16] Andrew Lawrence: your risk assessments and everything, it has to be done completely legit.
[1311.44] Andrew Lawrence: Like, and it's just, it keeps getting gnarlier and gnarlier.
[1314.36] Andrew Lawrence: Like we spent probably way over two months just going back forth with like
[1319.72] Andrew Lawrence: the F1 on risk assessment, like little bit.
[1322.04] Andrew Lawrence: So sort of all has to be above board really.
[1326.0] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1326.48] Andrew Lawrence: Well, what you say about board, what, what pushes you?
[1329.08] Stephen: 25 milliwatts, baby.
[1332.64] Stephen: Yeah.
[1333.08] Stephen: You are in a pretty noisy environment with a bunch of broadcast video gear.
[1336.4] Stephen: I can't imagine they're all running 25 milliwatts.
[1339.04] Andrew Lawrence: It probably is a bit of noise, isn't it?
[1342.92] Andrew Lawrence: A lot of the time in like in, because Bahrain was just a test in this year and
[1348.2] Andrew Lawrence: it went, they went to Australia, didn't they for the first one?
[1350.6] Andrew Lawrence: It wasn't, um, it wasn't any of the light live stuff, but a lot of the time there
[1356.24] Andrew Lawrence: is, there isn't really, I'd hate to actually be at one of the races doing it.
[1361.04] Andrew Lawrence: Like the RF from all that's and just the amount of people would be crazy.
[1366.6] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1368.48] Andrew Lawrence: So be a lot more tricky, I think in an actual live, uh, risk, like something
[1375.2] Andrew Lawrence: like that, but again, I dunno, it's, it would be at least when we're filming,
[1381.72] Andrew Lawrence: you're just filming one car.
[1383.16] Andrew Lawrence: So say if some, you're doing a follow shot.
[1385.08] Andrew Lawrence: So if something goes wrong, it's going to probably just fall on the track behind them.
[1390.32] Andrew Lawrence: It's not like it's going to get run over or like,
[1393.6] Andrew Lawrence: you know, yeah, which I dunno, I can understand why the F1 don't ever want to
[1400.04] Andrew Lawrence: use like, well, it's and like loads of race series.
[1402.96] Andrew Lawrence: They don't ever let drones overfly a light live circuit.
[1406.52] Tony: If you know what I mean?
[1407.84] Tony: Too much to go wrong.
[1411.24] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1411.76] Andrew Lawrence: It's just, and the amount of money that is involved with it.
[1415.48] Andrew Lawrence: I just, I don't think it'll ever be like a viable thing to be honest.
[1419.68] Andrew Lawrence: Do you have a GPS in there or are you, uh, yeah, little, uh, M10 like you, I think it is in there.
[1428.24] Stephen: What's the return to home?
[1429.36] Stephen: If things do go completely, uh, awry.
[1431.84] Stephen: I mean, I imagine you've probably gotten happy on throttle at least once and gotten
[1436.24] Stephen: a little bit too far to see what's going on.
[1438.12] Stephen: Cause that's, that's bound to happen when you're testing the drone out, right?
[1441.0] Stephen: Is it able to get back home and land itself?
[1443.36] Andrew Lawrence: Or is that like new beta flights.
[1446.72] Andrew Lawrence: So good to, uh, like GPS rescue and everything, you know, it will, uh, come and land.
[1453.08] Andrew Lawrence: But the speed that it goes up to whatever you set the height was the first time I was
[1458.52] Andrew Lawrence: just testing it would fail safe.
[1460.08] Andrew Lawrence: It was extremely like,
[1464.52] Andrew Lawrence: yeah, he was just like, right.
[1466.8] Andrew Lawrence: Like, cause I didn't realize it had been going up higher and obviously on it sets
[1470.48] Andrew Lawrence: from the base and it, and it was, well, went up probably a bit higher than it should do
[1475.72] Andrew Lawrence: in like one or two seconds.
[1477.52] Andrew Lawrence: And I was like, holy hell.
[1478.96] Stephen: Like, you know, and you just like, you know, you just hear there's kind of something
[1483.16] Stephen: that sounds like a strangled synthesizer.
[1485.6] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1486.64] Andrew Lawrence: It's just like, oh, I'm like very high up, very fast.
[1489.88] Andrew Lawrence: So that was a bit of a eye opener.
[1492.12] Andrew Lawrence: So spicy.
[1493.6] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1494.92] Andrew Lawrence: But no, I don't know.
[1496.44] Andrew Lawrence: Overall it's yeah, I guess like I haven't flown loads of sort of wings and, uh,
[1502.24] Andrew Lawrence: similar things to that.
[1504.12] Andrew Lawrence: But like, I think if you, I don't know with quads, I always seem to, uh, like
[1510.28] Andrew Lawrence: give it a bit of throttle, but then I chill as well.
[1512.36] Andrew Lawrence: Whereas like wings and, um, fixed wing stuff, you have to be, you need to be
[1517.76] Andrew Lawrence: going fast the whole time, don't you?
[1519.2] Andrew Lawrence: So it's, I don't know.
[1520.44] Andrew Lawrence: It is quite a different experience, I guess, to fly compared to normal quads.
[1527.76] Jack: I don't know.
[1528.4] Jack: Got a big enough wing.
[1529.4] Jack: You can kind of slow right down.
[1532.2] Tony: Yeah.
[1532.56] Tony: What KV, um, what KV are the motors?
[1535.12] Tony: Are they just like a 2,600?
[1537.96] Tony: Uh, these are 1950.
[1539.88] Andrew Lawrence: 1950 these are.
[1542.36] Stephen: Yeah.
[1543.48] Stephen: Uh, is that with a five inch crop on it?
[1548.6] Stephen: Yeah.
[1549.48] Stephen: Yeah.
[1549.68] Stephen: On what size of the motors?
[1551.88] Stephen: Uh, 2,808.
[1555.36] Stephen: Oh, it's a chunky motor then.
[1556.84] Stephen: So you've got like a, a motor you'd normally see on like a seven inch board.
[1561.12] Stephen: Is it driving seven inch prop as well?
[1563.2] Stephen: Uh, no, just five inches.
[1566.16] Stephen: On a seven inch motor running at eight S.
[1568.92] Stephen: So plenty of talk on that.
[1571.12] Tony: So you could go faster then with a more KV, but then it probably came more
[1576.92] Tony: battery, I suppose, wouldn't you?
[1580.59] Jack: Yeah.
[1582.03] Stephen: That's not melting the shell off the, uh, sonic.
[1586.47] Stephen: That's usually the limitation.
[1588.63] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1589.47] Andrew Lawrence: But like at the moment you can, like, there's transonic brother,
[1594.19] Andrew Lawrence: the, um, like the XC 60 is warm, you know, after being a few punches.
[1602.23] Andrew Lawrence: So I think you'd probably have to start going towards like, I don't know,
[1605.59] Andrew Lawrence: XT 90 and there isn't really space for that.
[1608.91] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[1610.59] Andrew Lawrence: At the moment it seems like it depends what you want to do.
[1613.59] Andrew Lawrence: If you want to go the fastest ever, you'd probably make, you know, like a carbon.
[1617.71] Andrew Lawrence: There's a guy called, is it fast boy?
[1620.39] Andrew Lawrence: And he's made like carbon shell and the arms are sort of tucked a lot
[1625.87] Andrew Lawrence: further underneath the drone, but just, you know, going in, like, obviously,
[1631.11] Stephen: like profiles carbon where you get the cloth and like shape it to what
[1635.87] Stephen: you've got as a 3d print there.
[1637.31] Andrew Lawrence: And yeah, but even like sort of the actual arms on it on that one, they're
[1643.95] Andrew Lawrence: like tucked right underneath it.
[1645.59] Andrew Lawrence: Cause obviously it's going to be a lot sort of slimmer profile and it's going
[1649.47] Andrew Lawrence: to be a lot more arrow and a lot harder to steer as well.
[1653.23] Andrew Lawrence: You're not the, for me, it's, it's pointless.
[1656.27] Andrew Lawrence: Really.
[1656.63] Andrew Lawrence: The top speed is like fine already.
[1660.27] Andrew Lawrence: It's more like handling and sort of the efficiency of it is a lot more
[1665.11] Andrew Lawrence: important to me now, but even, I don't know, it's like, it's still, it's
[1671.51] Andrew Lawrence: such like a niche thing in itself.
[1673.23] Andrew Lawrence: Really.
[1673.55] Andrew Lawrence: Like, I dunno, most of the time I probably wouldn't need it unless I'm
[1677.27] Andrew Lawrence: chasing F1 cars and then you're only going to do one or two shots with like
[1682.07] Andrew Lawrence: follow cam and then you're going to be doing a different variety of shots.
[1685.87] Andrew Lawrence: So it is like super niche thing to be honest.
[1690.91] Stephen: What's it like doing like a 180 degree flip turn like an eye throttle on that thing?
[1695.91] Andrew Lawrence: Oh, I haven't done it going like a full, like full throttle, like eased
[1700.67] Andrew Lawrence: off each time and sort of, you know, just done.
[1704.47] Stephen: Yeah.
[1704.91] Andrew Lawrence: I haven't experimented with it that much, I guess.
[1708.03] Stephen: Oh, I guess what I'm wondering is when does it start to shake?
[1711.11] Stephen: I mean, have you, have you got that far or are you just kind of coaxing it very
[1715.15] Stephen: carefully through because it's such a pain to rebuild obviously?
[1720.47] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, I do like really harsh, like some like, like more orbits and like, I
[1726.95] Andrew Lawrence: dunno, I guess like a 180 sort of, not like more like a really hard split ass.
[1733.55] Andrew Lawrence: Like, I don't really try and do those going for, cause I'd never do it if
[1737.71] Andrew Lawrence: that would make sense.
[1738.99] Andrew Lawrence: So I haven't.
[1739.75] Stephen: Yeah, you don't need to do it for the role that you're putting it to.
[1743.15] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1744.15] Andrew Lawrence: But like it, when it's doing really sort of hard, aggressive orbits, you can,
[1749.15] Andrew Lawrence: and you can hear it as well, just not trilling, but I dunno, it's, you can
[1756.11] Andrew Lawrence: tell it's under like a lot of, I guess, G-force or whatever, you know, to be, be
[1762.91] Andrew Lawrence: doing those kinds of moves compared to like normally.
[1766.27] Andrew Lawrence: And you can, as well, you can see obviously getting a lot slower, but the
[1770.67] Andrew Lawrence: amp draw, I think, makes it a lot more happy.
[1775.51] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[1775.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1776.43] Andrew Lawrence: So.
[1778.11] Stephen: That's interesting.
[1778.95] Stephen: So like hard cornering, you'll actually see the higher amp draw rather than
[1782.39] Stephen: just like that.
[1782.91] Frank: Yeah, going in sort of more, yeah.
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[1812.15] Jack: Right.
[1812.47] Jack: We got a load of questions here.
[1814.47] Jack: So the first one was FX node asking, do your rates for low to high speed?
[1821.59] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, I run probably about for three, 400 degrees for, for this.
[1828.87] Andrew Lawrence: So if you want it quite slow, the fast, I don't know, with these
[1831.59] Andrew Lawrence: quads, the faster you move in, there's the slower you want your rates.
[1835.11] Andrew Lawrence: So I'd say, because like, I dunno, if I feel like even, um, probably
[1841.91] Andrew Lawrence: beef, like default, like being, what are they six, 70 would, it just
[1847.63] Andrew Lawrence: feel way too twitchy, like you don't want to sort of do any really
[1851.03] Andrew Lawrence: sudden moves with it, I guess.
[1854.15] Stephen: So that's 350 degrees.
[1856.63] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, right.
[1857.23] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1857.51] Andrew Lawrence: Around about like three 50, I find like you as well, it's sort of, it's very
[1865.67] Andrew Lawrence: much, I know you pre-ent stuff, but it's everything kind of needs to be
[1870.15] Andrew Lawrence: preemptive, you know what I mean?
[1871.47] Andrew Lawrence: Being reactive with it just doesn't work in the slight.
[1875.31] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[1876.99] Andrew Lawrence: But like obviously on the track, you know, where the corners are, et cetera,
[1880.47] Andrew Lawrence: et cetera, like if it was just, I dunno, I dunno, maybe if it was like, you
[1886.67] Andrew Lawrence: know, really, I dunno what boats can do, but I think that would be extremely tricky.
[1891.31] Andrew Lawrence: You know, doing hot or planes or something similar to that would be, um,
[1896.91] Stephen: quite hard to fix nodes.
[1899.43] Stephen: You don't need rates any higher than three 50.
[1901.83] Stephen: There you are.
[1905.51] Stephen: What was the next question, Jack?
[1907.47] Jack: Um, it's more of a common.
[1909.39] Jack: It was, uh, magic went so said flying corn.
[1913.47] Jack: And then Robert said stronger, strong enough for a man, but made for a woman.
[1922.23] Jack: Quite girthy.
[1923.99] Jack: And, uh, followed up with, I would hate to see anyone come into the chat, not
[1929.59] Jack: really knowing what we're talking about and seeing that, um, and, uh, magic
[1938.63] Jack: wonderful asks, is the camera angle connected to throttle or a separate
[1944.03] Jack: slot switch, like a slider or whatnot?
[1947.15] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, yeah, I just got it on a free position switch.
[1949.67] Andrew Lawrence: So, uh, have it like probably about 10 degrees, like probably about 45 and
[1955.95] Andrew Lawrence: then around like 70 or something.
[1958.51] Curry: Um, is it to land?
[1960.31] Curry: Cause obviously it's not like you can just put it down and it will sit there.
[1963.99] Curry: It's going to, it's going to fall over one way or the other, isn't it?
[1966.79] Andrew Lawrence: With its low camera angle, it's actually like really easy.
[1973.67] Andrew Lawrence: Like it's not, you just sort of, it's a bit weird because obviously it's so much
[1979.63] Andrew Lawrence: higher up than the normal quads, but it's it like you get a gauge for it and just
[1985.19] Andrew Lawrence: cutting and it's fine to be honest.
[1987.19] Stephen: Do you land on the ground or do you have any sort of, uh, soft landing
[1990.51] Stephen: zones just to save the prints?
[1993.19] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, no, it's like, honestly, because the camera angle is so low, you can see
[1998.99] Andrew Lawrence: that it's like, I'm not saying it's as land as a like a warp or a like, you
[2004.27] Andrew Lawrence: know, like there's no, it's not like you come in and it addiction it ever.
[2009.35] Andrew Lawrence: It's like coming in really controlled and it's like, I wish I could put a
[2013.23] Andrew Lawrence: servo on all my quads.
[2014.51] Andrew Lawrence: It's so much easier to, you know, like the naught, some of the other like, um,
[2021.19] Andrew Lawrence: ones that I use, I haven't got servos on and you're just running the high camera
[2025.31] Andrew Lawrence: angle and you're like, say, if you've got a weight somewhere, you're just doing
[2028.79] Andrew Lawrence: some, so many weird like moves to just try and stay in the same place a lot of
[2033.07] Andrew Lawrence: the time.
[2033.19] Stephen: You try and spot your own head and like, if there's no trees next to you.
[2038.15] Andrew Lawrence: Oh, it's horrible.
[2039.63] Andrew Lawrence: And just being able to like, just put it at a low camera angle and you
[2042.95] Andrew Lawrence: know, something's coming and you can just flick it to something high is just
[2046.07] Andrew Lawrence: like game changing, really.
[2048.67] Stephen: Yeah.
[2048.83] Stephen: I run most of mine at like 45, some of them at 35, but the, uh, there's
[2052.87] Stephen: occasions when I've just had to like, just ditch it at my feet because, uh,
[2059.03] Stephen: yeah, I didn't really know how far away the ground was.
[2061.71] Stephen: Um, so, um, what have we got master?
[2064.95] Stephen: We've got a comment from num skull saying, uh, master air screw do a
[2068.83] Stephen: lot of handy prop pitches.
[2070.67] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2071.47] Andrew Lawrence: And, uh, APC, is it APC?
[2074.35] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2076.03] Stephen: We're playing guys.
[2077.43] Stephen: Yeah.
[2078.99] Stephen: Uh, Stu
[2080.75] Stephen: if you have any footage of it, you can share in flight.
[2083.43] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, I've got one of, uh, for me, a free car that I could probably share.
[2089.71] Stephen: Go on.
[2090.43] Stephen: If you've got it kicking around, that'd be lovely.
[2092.79] Stephen: While you're digging out the footage, uh, FX nodes wondering if you use gyro
[2096.31] Stephen: flow to, uh, tidy up any of the wobbles.
[2099.63] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, yeah, it's all run through gyro flag.
[2102.51] Andrew Lawrence: Um, absolute godsend.
[2106.27] UNKNOWN: Yeah.
[2106.55] Tony: Well, why would you not, you can see your screen.
[2109.43] Curry: Oh, sorry.
[2112.11] Andrew Lawrence: What you see, sorry, forget it.
[2116.75] Andrew Lawrence: We have a following, a very fast, uh, just following some of the, um, sort
[2124.67] Andrew Lawrence: of rookies in the like, um, F3 cars that were like going to rain.
[2134.63] Stephen: So smooth.
[2138.34] Andrew Lawrence: Playing it again.
[2138.98] Stephen: Now, so can you tell us what sort of speeds they're going as they
[2142.78] Andrew Lawrence: come out with one of their, uh, I don't actually know.
[2147.98] Andrew Lawrence: Um, off the top of my head to be quite honest, but I don't know.
[2154.38] Andrew Lawrence: They're probably like, we weren't really pushing it.
[2158.38] Andrew Lawrence: Um, it's not a great track in there because there's so many trees
[2162.86] Andrew Lawrence: everywhere, it's quite hard to spot the cars houses there as well.
[2167.7] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2168.82] Andrew Lawrence: Um, coming through, uh, it's probably, it's probably getting up to, uh, I
[2175.86] Andrew Lawrence: don't know, maybe two fifth.
[2179.46] Andrew Lawrence: It's not like super fast.
[2181.14] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, like any of these sectors are going to be doing almost a hundred
[2184.02] Stephen: through the corners, I'd have thought because that's fairly typical, isn't it?
[2187.62] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2188.66] Andrew Lawrence: Like on the straight, probably going up to, I don't know, maybe two 50 or
[2192.82] Andrew Lawrence: something similar to here, like him, like.
[2195.78] Andrew Lawrence: Just put it in a way.
[2196.86] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2197.22] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2197.9] Andrew Lawrence: And I saw a leave in there cause it's, uh, it would have been, uh, out of
[2202.34] Andrew Lawrence: line of sight as well.
[2203.5] Stephen: So it was a sort of, but it didn't look like you were having trouble following.
[2207.26] Stephen: It was quite impressive for command.
[2209.06] Stephen: It was just, you know, it looked very intentional.
[2211.7] Stephen: Like you weren't stretching yourself to keep up with the car.
[2214.34] Andrew Lawrence: No, like it, the hardest thing honestly is like dropping in behind them and like
[2222.5] Andrew Lawrence: sort of knowing that you're going to, cause you're coming in hot, knowing
[2227.42] Andrew Lawrence: that you're going to sort of approach it at a reasonable speed, not to overshoot
[2230.7] Andrew Lawrence: it, you sort of have to really, uh, back off after like throttling down, which
[2235.9] Andrew Lawrence: is, it just feels such a like a bizarre thing to do, like the only, I don't
[2241.14] Andrew Lawrence: know, yeah, it's just quite square, scary, uh, throttling into the ground, I guess.
[2247.66] Jack: Yeah.
[2249.34] Jack: And he's just about to enter a corner as well.
[2252.34] Jack: So yeah, it's still slowing down.
[2254.78] Jack: Yeah.
[2255.1] Andrew Lawrence: It's really tricky to like gage.
[2257.14] Andrew Lawrence: It's not like Imola, to be honest, probably isn't, wasn't wouldn't be like
[2262.34] Andrew Lawrence: the optimal place to do it.
[2265.46] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2265.74] Andrew Lawrence: You want sort of something with some nice long straights and, um, like.
[2273.38] Andrew Lawrence: Well, if it was really tight corners, again, I think you'd, you'd struggle if
[2277.3] Andrew Lawrence: it there was, yeah, I haven't flown it loads and loads to the, compared to,
[2285.3] Andrew Lawrence: you know, normal quads to know exactly how it's going to behave, if that makes sense.
[2292.66] Andrew Lawrence: So it's still like, uh, taking slow steps with it all.
[2297.22] Stephen: What tracks are best in terms of line of sight?
[2299.58] Stephen: Cause obviously you mentioned there, you lost line of sight and backed off the car.
[2303.9] Stephen: What track can you cover most of the track?
[2309.06] Andrew Lawrence: Um, but rain's not too bad because you can, um, get up to like high positions there.
[2318.82] Andrew Lawrence: Um, Sylvester isn't, isn't too bad for like, but like the, the wings, uh,
[2325.46] Andrew Lawrence: quite, quite large, if you know where the pits are quite large.
[2329.42] Andrew Lawrence: So it really like, uh, disrupts the signal over those ones.
[2333.86] Andrew Lawrence: Um, cause like, say when the Dutch drone guys, uh, God's did theirs, theirs is
[2339.38] Andrew Lawrence: all, um, with like a relay system off, uh, like DJI inspire.
[2346.1] Andrew Lawrence: So yeah.
[2350.26] Andrew Lawrence: Um, trying to think what other, like the smaller circuits in the UK are
[2356.54] Andrew Lawrence: like quite good, um, for it.
[2358.94] Andrew Lawrence: I dunno, there's like, I don't know if you know, angle C and again,
[2364.86] Andrew Lawrence: at like the top gear test track in Dunsfold, that's just like a massive
[2369.06] Andrew Lawrence: open runway that's really good for like more like, like line of sight.
[2374.38] Tony: I've gone round there with a stick.
[2378.34] Tony: It was good.
[2381.86] Jack: Can you, um, will you be doing any stuff with drive drive or like, you
[2387.58] Jack: know, uh, like all Alex or top dead center, any of those guys?
[2393.98] Andrew Lawrence: Uh, one of, one of two things with, uh, drive drive and like doing
[2399.82] Andrew Lawrence: like, um, just like, you know, the top gear, I guess it's all this online
[2404.9] Andrew Lawrence: now, like magazine shoots and similar things to that did like some of
[2410.38] Andrew Lawrence: their last grand tours and you know, um, bits like that, but it's just weird.
[2416.3] Andrew Lawrence: It's just like all the sort of those shows have just stopped at the
[2420.54] Andrew Lawrence: same time, if you know what I mean?
[2423.66] Stephen: Incident.
[2424.7] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2425.58] Andrew Lawrence: So, um, no, hopefully they're like grand tour does come back, but God knows
[2432.34] Andrew Lawrence: what will ever happen with top gear.
[2433.82] Andrew Lawrence: I think, I don't know, sort of run its course.
[2435.82] Andrew Lawrence: We did do like an Australian version one.
[2439.38] Jack: Oh, did you meet Moog?
[2441.62] Jack: Uh, um, what's his name?
[2445.9] Jack: Uh, Oh, I want to say, oh God, Benjamin, but it's not.
[2454.18] Jack: It's, uh, you were stuck in a really good hunger.
[2458.98] Curry: That's like a bit, yeah.
[2462.18] Curry: Well, while I was looking that up, I was going to say, I thought the grand tours
[2465.66] Curry: coming back in the form of a program called not the grand tour or something.
[2471.02] Andrew Lawrence: They were trying to get different presenters to, um, do it, but I just, I
[2476.9] Andrew Lawrence: don't think they found like a nice combination of, uh, people that say
[2481.7] Andrew Lawrence: chemistry work well together.
[2483.06] Tony: So I don't know if that's.
[2485.98] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2488.02] Tony: It just hasn't worked, does it?
[2493.55] Stephen: Magic pencil, um, wants to know about brands hatch saying that would be
[2498.07] Stephen: cool as a smaller circuit, I guess.
[2500.23] Stephen: Would you be able to, uh, track them all the way around brands?
[2504.99] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2505.31] Andrew Lawrence: There's just a, again, uh, brands, brands, I think, depending on which
[2511.95] Andrew Lawrence: circuit you do, there's a lot of tree lines.
[2514.59] Andrew Lawrence: Um, there's like a bigger loop.
[2516.83] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[2517.59] Andrew Lawrence: Depends which one you do, but there's a lot of tree lined around the back.
[2521.59] Andrew Lawrence: So again, you'd have to have a repeater system.
[2525.47] Stephen: If you wanted to do that, it looks like you're pretty, would you
[2531.67] Stephen: be below tree level there?
[2534.51] Stephen: Uh, how far you are off the deck?
[2538.51] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2539.71] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2539.99] Andrew Lawrence: You'd be below tree level.
[2542.31] Andrew Lawrence: You don't really want to lose signal when you go in pretty
[2544.83] Andrew Lawrence: fast to feel this thing, even though it's trying to play as safe as possibly.
[2549.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yes.
[2551.51] Jack: Yeah.
[2551.75] Jack: It was Blake, the, uh, his name Moog from me.
[2558.07] Jack: They had him on, they brought him in on top gear Australia.
[2563.95] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2564.71] Andrew Lawrence: No, the Australian guys are like, uh, no good fun.
[2568.91] Andrew Lawrence: This seems to mess about a lot more than, you know, I don't know that they just
[2575.71] Andrew Lawrence: want to have fun rather than, uh, present like a TV show a lot.
[2581.47] Stephen: I think that was some of the best content on a type of show.
[2584.79] Stephen: It was a top gear.
[2586.35] Stephen: I remember when I was a kid, it was this deadly serious car show where people
[2590.75] Stephen: talked about the quality of the window winders, you know, and, uh, it really
[2596.19] Stephen: struggled to find this nation until people just started asking around a bit.
[2600.71] Jack: Yeah.
[2602.63] Jack: No, it's a fine line.
[2604.75] Jack: You got to have a bit of messing around, but also, you know, appreciation
[2609.31] Stephen: of risk at the same time, which is what did for it.
[2612.31] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2612.99] Andrew Lawrence: You got to be messing around for the cameras, if you know what I mean.
[2616.43] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2617.71] Andrew Lawrence: Rather than just messing around.
[2618.91] Andrew Lawrence: Is that like, I don't know.
[2621.19] Stephen: So it's like what people say about comedy.
[2623.03] Stephen: If, if you're having a great time filming comedy, then it probably
[2626.95] Stephen: isn't going to be funny to the audience.
[2628.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2629.71] Andrew Lawrence: I guess it's just, um, like the time we live in, I don't know if that format
[2634.83] Andrew Lawrence: works as well, like nowadays, especially with all the amount of YouTube
[2638.79] Andrew Lawrence: content and whatever, yeah.
[2643.95] Jack: Do you think it's water down there to tell you at all?
[2647.43] Jack: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely.
[2649.79] Stephen: There's stuff on TV.
[2652.07] Stephen: Yeah.
[2653.23] Stephen: It's difficult to do a 30 minute show when someone can do like a 30 second
[2657.75] Stephen: sound bite and get a huge amount of media attention for that.
[2662.51] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2663.55] Andrew Lawrence: A lot, a lot of the time with like the certain things, obviously it's
[2668.59] Andrew Lawrence: not, there's scripts, if you know what I mean, a lot, they're following.
[2673.11] Andrew Lawrence: So it's, I don't know, maybe not so much the old ones, but like the new ones.
[2677.67] Andrew Lawrence: It was very like just going through the motions a bit.
[2681.59] Stephen: Yeah.
[2682.23] Andrew Lawrence: So I have to see, see what happens.
[2683.83] Stephen: Everything runs its course.
[2685.47] Stephen: There's very few TV series where they're as fresh on series 10 as they are on
[2689.79] Stephen: series one and that's just, I'm sure there's someone else to take up the bat on.
[2696.75] Stephen: And there's still people interested in cars.
[2698.71] Stephen: There will be a TV show about cars.
[2700.31] Stephen: It's just a question of what it's going to look like.
[2703.95] Jack: Oh yeah.
[2706.23] Jack: It's more of a TV show about farming now.
[2709.55] Jack: Yeah.
[2711.87] Jack: They're doing quite, you know, I think they're doing quite well.
[2715.39] Andrew Lawrence: No, it's great.
[2716.43] Andrew Lawrence: It's crazy.
[2717.11] Andrew Lawrence: Like the, well, just the amount of people that go to his farm shop is just insane.
[2722.79] Stephen: I'm surprised by how popular it was amongst farmers.
[2725.23] Stephen: Apparently they just haven't had like a loud mouth on their side before.
[2732.19] Jack: Yeah.
[2733.35] Jack: Well, you need, I think it helps that he's got, got the budget to do anything.
[2739.19] Jack: He just, you know, obviously records some TV stuff and then wastes money.
[2743.99] Jack: Farthing.
[2745.11] Stephen: Well, it's more like, well, let's do a hundred ground doing this.
[2748.87] Stephen: This is what you're supposed to do.
[2750.15] Stephen: Look, I've just lost all my bloody money.
[2751.75] Stephen: How are you supposed to run a business like that?
[2754.19] Stephen: Let's strike a course with a bunch of farms and see why.
[2758.07] Tony: Did you do any filming for that shy?
[2760.11] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2760.35] Andrew Lawrence: I've done a few things on the farm before with actually like the last harvest
[2767.71] Andrew Lawrence: one we were like just filming with the Mavics and because of the like sensors on it, it was
[2775.35] Andrew Lawrence: going from dusk to night and just had the sensors on, but the lights and the combine
[2781.35] Andrew Lawrence: like startled the drone and it couldn't move in the slightest.
[2785.67] Andrew Lawrence: And it ended up just going and hitting the wind, like the windscreen of the combine
[2791.27] Stephen: harvester when you were getting freestyle, one out, mate, going to orbit that
[2796.75] Stephen: pumpkin mine harvester and go for it.
[2801.87] Jack: Bligh rate, mate.
[2803.19] Jack: Bligh rate.
[2803.71] Tony: Probably needed a good camera though.
[2806.27] Tony: Dusk.
[2809.83] Stephen: Well, now you've got the o4s, you can just slap one of them in.
[2814.11] Stephen: Oh, that's up with your Mavics soon enough.
[2816.75] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, but no, it's just, I dunno.
[2820.27] Andrew Lawrence: It's very like sort of, I feel like it's going to be more of a niche thing that they use FPV
[2827.51] Andrew Lawrence: generally for filming, you know, on TV.
[2830.03] Andrew Lawrence: It's usually like an action sequence or, you know, like I think long gone the days, like
[2838.59] Andrew Lawrence: everyone knows what FPV is now.
[2840.63] Andrew Lawrence: Like it's so mainstream, isn't it?
[2842.63] Andrew Lawrence: That it's only sort of like, yeah.
[2845.95] Andrew Lawrence: No.
[2847.19] Jack: No.
[2849.55] Jack: Stubbs, he asks, he says, I know Andrew does a lot of mountain bike stuff.
[2854.35] Jack: How does he do the hard line with all the wood sections and stuff?
[2859.03] Andrew Lawrence: Um, usually just film like sections of it, to be honest, to be fair, even from like the
[2867.15] Andrew Lawrence: opposite hillside, you can fly like nearly like 99% of the course for you, the trees.
[2874.59] Andrew Lawrence: It's just obviously being on a mountain and trying to film the same mountain.
[2878.79] Andrew Lawrence: You just, you're never going to get like the best reception through it, to be honest.
[2884.71] Stephen: I guess you're not getting as far away as you would if you were in a car.
[2889.51] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[2890.63] Andrew Lawrence: But no, yeah, I'd say probably mountain biking is my favorite stuff to film, to be honest.
[2895.75] Andrew Lawrence: Usually it's, you're not like just on the shoot, it's just you and a filmer or two.
[2902.15] Andrew Lawrence: And despite the guys that are riding, it's like no hassle.
[2905.51] Andrew Lawrence: And just like, don't know, just going up somewhere nice and it's time to be honest.
[2909.91] Andrew Lawrence: They got a helmet.
[2910.91] Jack: They're all armored up, you know, if they fall off a bike, yeah, if they fall off a bike,
[2916.75] Jack: that is way more of a concern than you even coming anywhere near them.
[2921.75] Tony: Live as well, they come to live bits of the drone.
[2925.43] Tony: I think they did in the, um, yeah, yeah.
[2931.11] Andrew Lawrence: They did all like, they do all crank works and everything now, don't they?
[2935.19] Andrew Lawrence: They're going out to, um, like dark fest in about two weeks.
[2940.15] Andrew Lawrence: One in, yeah, big one in South Africa to go and film all those guys, do the hundred foot jumps and all that crazy stuff.
[2950.31] Stephen: What do you use for mountain bike footage?
[2952.11] Stephen: What's your go-to rig for that?
[2953.91] Andrew Lawrence: It's normal, like five inch, like the free sort of free style, you know, to sort of normal five inch rig.
[2963.03] Stephen: Yeah, like that looks like an AOS design with those braces.
[2968.15] Jack: Yeah, just trying that and just have a look at all the bracing in the world.
[2977.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, don't show your fire ID, a little serial serial numbers and those.
[2984.63] Andrew Lawrence: Um, yeah, we just try like trying out to see what, uh, different braces actually do to the noise.
[2992.55] Andrew Lawrence: Really with it, just like little sort of test rig, but, um,
[2999.11] Andrew Lawrence: because you run such slow camera angle and probably running like, I don't know,
[3002.55] Andrew Lawrence: five degrees, but the GoPro is like pretty much at zero that I don't know.
[3013.35] Andrew Lawrence: There's just something about the way, I guess, cause you, most people fly like,
[3019.11] Andrew Lawrence: like the standard sort of frame.
[3020.55] Andrew Lawrence: You're just so used to that.
[3021.67] Andrew Lawrence: It just flies in like a really nice way for filming, um, bikes and whatever else.
[3027.99] Stephen: I guess to replace parts as well.
[3031.35] Jack: Yeah.
[3033.19] Jack: What's been your favorite filming experience?
[3036.47] Andrew Lawrence: Um, I don't know, really done loads of, uh, pretty crazy things to be honest.
[3044.15] Andrew Lawrence: And I don't know, got to fly it down in street at the back of end last year.
[3050.95] Andrew Lawrence: When they're doing the election, I don't know.
[3053.83] Stephen: Well, are you flying around down in street?
[3055.51] Stephen: I thought there'd be someone, uh, knocking you out the sky.
[3058.39] Stephen: Pretty smartish.
[3059.27] Stephen: That's, that's a very unusual one.
[3061.03] Jack: Trappy got away with it.
[3063.35] Stephen: Oh yeah.
[3064.31] Stephen: 20 years ago.
[3065.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3067.19] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[3068.63] Andrew Lawrence: Guess it should be, but I wonder how much they even knew I was there.
[3073.19] Andrew Lawrence: If you know what I mean with it.
[3076.55] Stephen: What would you use for that?
[3077.43] Stephen: Was it just a little woop or something?
[3078.87] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, just a little sub 250.
[3080.87] Andrew Lawrence: We've got one kicking about just to like, you know, like reels.
[3085.51] Jack: You do look like you're inside a, uh, a shiny shipping crate.
[3090.47] Jack: Yeah.
[3091.03] Jack: Your background.
[3092.47] Jack: It just needs a bit of OSP.
[3098.79] Jack: Yeah.
[3099.27] Jack: I just, it looks like, you know, it looks, you just need like a spray paint this way up in red.
[3107.35] Jack: Yeah.
[3108.39] Andrew Lawrence: Just really, really sort of.
[3111.83] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3112.07] Andrew Lawrence: You just don't want to see the rest of the room.
[3113.51] Andrew Lawrence: That's just covered in absolute chaos from building and 3d printing.
[3120.63] Jack: I'm very familiar with this.
[3125.83] Jack: I bought a grow tent.
[3129.43] Stephen: What?
[3131.75] Jack: Grow your own mushrooms.
[3135.59] Stephen: Whatever's in there, mate.
[3137.11] Stephen: Just have it be damp and sweaty for a while.
[3139.67] Stephen: See what happens.
[3140.71] Jack: Yeah.
[3141.03] Jack: I mean, I imagine what the hell is.
[3149.03] Jack: No, I'm not growing anything.
[3151.11] Jack: It's a 3d printer.
[3154.39] Jack: It is.
[3154.87] Jack: Wow.
[3155.67] Jack: It is a grow tent lights.
[3157.99] Stephen: Why'd it, but why even a lot of resin printer you've got?
[3161.99] Jack: No, uh, it's so I can print some ABS.
[3165.03] Jack: I wanted to give that a go.
[3169.03] Jack: Dangerous stuff.
[3169.67] Jack: Yeah.
[3170.47] Jack: Get the hose out the window.
[3171.75] Jack: Yeah.
[3171.99] Jack: I've got like a little bento box and that I'm thinking about maybe building a 3d printer.
[3179.59] Jack: And yeah.
[3180.23] Jack: What's for ABS?
[3181.03] Jack: What are you going to do with the ABS?
[3183.43] Jack: Print a part so I can build my own printer.
[3187.99] Tony: To a series on YouTube.
[3189.91] Jack: Yeah.
[3190.23] Jack: These are little menus.
[3191.75] Tony: And if you get really fed up, turn that ventilation thing off.
[3195.91] Tony: Yeah.
[3198.71] Jack: Yeah.
[3202.71] Jack: Like I've had to like heated inserts and stuff.
[3207.91] Jack: Yeah.
[3208.39] Jack: Like, like soldering irons that are blunt.
[3211.75] Jack: Yeah.
[3212.07] Jack: So it's just a bit of a mission really.
[3214.31] Stephen: I've done the, uh, yeah.
[3215.51] Stephen: I've done the, uh, inserts on the end of a soldering iron.
[3218.79] Stephen: That's a bit.
[3221.91] Jack: Yeah.
[3222.55] Jack: Don't forget which ones you've heated up and which ones you haven't.
[3226.55] Jack: Because, uh, I did that.
[3228.31] Jack: Heated one up.
[3229.19] Jack: It fell off.
[3230.31] Jack: No, no, no.
[3231.11] Jack: Heated up.
[3231.67] Jack: It was still hot.
[3233.03] Jack: And Mike.
[3233.75] Jack: Yeah.
[3234.07] Jack: Just burn the f*** into my fingers.
[3240.87] Jack: Well, I feel like Lurgy.
[3242.15] Jack: Lurgy, if you listen to this, I feel like you with a magical great end.
[3246.15] Jack: Talked about you, but.
[3247.75] Stephen: Oh, Subsy has another question.
[3249.83] Stephen: He'd like to know about the Attenborough filming that you did.
[3254.71] Jack: Oh, Lord Attenborough.
[3257.11] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3257.91] Andrew Lawrence: So I did, uh, first one was like green planet, uh, a few years ago.
[3263.27] Andrew Lawrence: I'm filming in the jungle.
[3264.95] Andrew Lawrence: Um, and then I've done, uh, quite a few things for like, uh, next flip.
[3271.67] Andrew Lawrence: So, um, is it our planet?
[3274.47] Andrew Lawrence: And then, um, re well, no, was it?
[3277.51] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3277.91] Andrew Lawrence: Last year, done one for the new blue planet.
[3281.35] Andrew Lawrence: That should be this year or next year.
[3284.87] Andrew Lawrence: Sounds phenomenal.
[3286.39] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, no, it's a good fun.
[3288.39] Andrew Lawrence: Like last one was in Iceland in the winter.
[3291.91] Stephen: And not as pleasant as, uh, out in the jungle somewhere.
[3297.83] Andrew Lawrence: No, but less malaria.
[3300.55] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3301.59] Andrew Lawrence: When, when you're just trying to fly and you're getting like literally bitten to holy hell.
[3307.03] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3307.27] Tony: I don't know what I'd prefer.
[3308.95] Andrew Lawrence: I don't know.
[3309.43] Tony: Being cold or being too hot and bitten.
[3311.59] Tony: I don't know.
[3312.07] Tony: And just maybe a snake in a trillion.
[3315.27] Stephen: I would just think you're more of a spectacle of it.
[3317.35] Stephen: The things you must have seen in, uh, in the jungle, some of the fantastic.
[3322.79] Andrew Lawrence: Oh, it's crazy.
[3324.07] Andrew Lawrence: It's just like, just being in the proper jungle, you know, to feel like everything's
[3331.27] Andrew Lawrence: a living sort of entity around you.
[3333.27] Andrew Lawrence: It's just, it's insane.
[3336.39] Andrew Lawrence: And like, even at night, there'll be just, because there are loads of trees always
[3340.23] Andrew Lawrence: just fall down and rot.
[3341.35] Andrew Lawrence: There'll be like, sounds like Godzilla or something's coming through massive.
[3346.23] Andrew Lawrence: Like smashing over in the middle of the night.
[3349.19] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3350.31] Andrew Lawrence: That's fine.
[3352.63] Andrew Lawrence: I think like the jungle environment is probably one of my favorite, um,
[3356.87] Jack: environments to be in really.
[3358.47] Jack: It's just, yeah, especially.
[3360.15] Jack: You get all Rambo-y and my, you know, predator and like rot me and dirt all over you.
[3365.43] Jack: And cause I'd, I'd get a bit feral.
[3367.43] Jack: I'd start attacking Tony.
[3370.71] Jack: Walking down the high street to be fair.
[3374.31] Andrew Lawrence: Not well, I don't know.
[3375.43] Andrew Lawrence: Well, awesome.
[3376.47] Andrew Lawrence: Pretty much who is wearing nets over every foot, like even trying to stop them getting,
[3384.95] Stephen: uh, I think the jungle might be quite harsh on Scotland.
[3389.91] Stephen: I don't know.
[3390.39] Stephen: It's not terrible or cold water and I'll Scott it brethren.
[3395.99] Jack: Does bug spray not do anything?
[3398.15] Jack: Is it just, no.
[3400.39] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah, but pointless wearing it after a while.
[3404.55] Andrew Lawrence: It's like, I think just cause he's putting sweat in all the time anyway, aren't you?
[3408.39] Andrew Lawrence: So it's like, there's no point putting it on.
[3411.11] Andrew Lawrence: You're just getting eaten alive pretty much the whole time.
[3413.91] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3414.71] Andrew Lawrence: Especially flying FPV cause you're not moving.
[3416.63] Andrew Lawrence: You can't really swap anything easily.
[3418.39] Andrew Lawrence: So you're just like,
[3421.75] Stephen: how many times you like bitten in the middle of a shoot and you just can't move.
[3424.87] Stephen: You just got to keep smooth, keep smooth.
[3426.87] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3427.59] Andrew Lawrence: Cause it's, you're doing such, especially like those things, you know,
[3430.63] Andrew Lawrence: just flying through canopies and whatever, but you're doing
[3433.67] Andrew Lawrence: such like you're hardly on the sticks really.
[3437.35] Andrew Lawrence: So it's not like you can like jerk anywhere.
[3439.99] Andrew Lawrence: You're just being, I don't know, like a surgeon.
[3442.87] Andrew Lawrence: Like a lot of the time yeah.
[3447.67] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3447.99] Andrew Lawrence: Which flying really slow and smooth is actually quite hot.
[3451.43] Andrew Lawrence: Like, you know, to not have any kind of eating you alive.
[3455.03] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3455.83] Andrew Lawrence: Bumps, but, um, no, the one in not Scotland in Iceland is pretty insane.
[3461.91] Andrew Lawrence: Cause it was, cause it was obviously we were filming storms.
[3466.71] Andrew Lawrence: Like quite a lot of time you can actually stand up because it was so windy and then
[3470.55] Andrew Lawrence: trying to fly in it.
[3472.39] Andrew Lawrence: Just like, yeah, I can't stand up time to fly.
[3477.27] Andrew Lawrence: Just flying it for like trying, you know, trying to give yourself
[3482.63] Andrew Lawrence: of enough punch to try and level the drone out.
[3484.87] Andrew Lawrence: So it isn't like everything's pretty much at like 90 degree horizon in filming.
[3490.23] Jack: But yeah.
[3491.91] Jack: Did you see any crazy animals like lions, tigers, leopards, panthers, cheetahs?
[3500.79] Andrew Lawrence: No, we went, we did another thing with a nut geo in, um,
[3508.15] Andrew Lawrence: we went to Botswana and that's the first time ever being like on safari or anything like that.
[3512.95] Andrew Lawrence: We were like literally sleeping in the middle of like the wilderness with elephants and like
[3519.43] Andrew Lawrence: hyenas and whatever.
[3521.11] Andrew Lawrence: I was just going around.
[3522.31] Andrew Lawrence: It's insane.
[3525.11] Stephen: Yeah, absolutely.
[3527.59] Stephen: Fantastic.
[3528.31] Stephen: I feel like we could go another hour.
[3530.87] Tony: Yeah.
[3532.15] Stephen: Unfortunately, we're rolling the credits to thank our wonderful Patreons already.
[3536.15] Stephen: Um, but yeah.
[3537.27] Stephen: Oh, wow.
[3538.71] Stephen: I have so many more questions.
[3540.87] Jack: Yeah, it feels like you've only just warmed up and we could milk you more.
[3547.19] Jack: You're like primed.
[3551.03] Stephen: Yeah, I just, I want to ask you what you're doing for National Geographic and
[3555.99] Stephen: maybe if you do have enough time, we could do a part two and talk about the documentary stuff
[3563.03] Stephen: and filming in all these unusual locations as well as the high speed chase.
[3568.07] Stephen: I feel like we've done justice to high speed chase, but if you ever want to come on again,
[3572.23] Stephen: it would be fantastic to talk about the other stuff as well.
[3574.71] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3575.27] Andrew Lawrence: Oh, yeah.
[3575.75] Andrew Lawrence: No, just give us the hardest thing is me is planning my time because it's so like last
[3581.35] Andrew Lawrence: minute for jobs.
[3582.31] Andrew Lawrence: I don't feel bad, you know, saying to you guys, uh, I'm going to come on and then just cancel.
[3589.03] Stephen: Oh, I understand.
[3589.75] Stephen: Absolutely.
[3590.23] Stephen: It's been an absolute pleasure hearing from you, Andy.
[3592.31] Stephen: Thank you so much.
[3593.35] Andrew Lawrence: Thank you for having this guy.
[3594.79] Andrew Lawrence: I just can't wait to listen to some more when I'm driving a bank up and down in the
[3598.87] Andrew Lawrence: country and flying places.
[3601.03] Jack: Bless you.
[3601.51] Jack: Thank you.
[3602.39] Jack: Thanks for making time for the second best podcast.
[3610.15] Stephen: I'm going to find out who that number one podcast actually is.
[3613.03] Jack: Yeah, we're going to email them and be like, you guys.
[3618.95] Jack: No worries.
[3620.07] Jack: Thank you.
[3620.95] Jack: And you'd be listening to let thrown out a massive, massive.
[3626.23] Jack: Thank you to all our wonderful Patreons.
[3628.23] Jack: At the moment, let's show now is only 94 pounds in debt.
[3633.27] Jack: So if you're trying to becoming a patron,
[3636.87] Stephen: so that we can, you know, what you can do if you, if you give us that push.
[3644.39] Jack: Yes.
[3645.03] Jack: To pay back Frank Frank under we've, we've, we've got under a hundred pounds.
[3653.43] Jack: We're getting there, but yes, we, if, uh, if you can support for as little as
[3659.03] Jack: three 99 per week, you can sponsor a Tony play airsoft and pay Frank back.
[3668.47] Jack: Anyway.
[3668.95] Jack: Uh, thank you.
[3669.99] Jack: You've been listening to lecture and now you've been joined by everyone's favorite
[3673.11] Jack: curry kitten Tony doing impression of the curry kitten.
[3675.43] Jack: Say goodbye.
[3681.03] Jack: The man with my star Steven.
[3683.03] Stephen: Cheers.
[3683.51] Jack: Thanks everyone.
[3685.27] Jack: Wonderful guest, Andrew Lawrence.
[3688.79] Jack: Cheers guys.
[3690.07] Jack: Which is also check out these Andrew Lawrence on Andrew J. Lawrence on Instagram.
[3697.75] Jack: And I think your company is mindscape film.
[3701.59] Jack: Oh, yeah.
[3703.27] Stephen: So take the mic, Andy.
[3704.47] Stephen: Tell us where we can find more about.
[3706.07] Andrew Lawrence: Yeah.
[3706.95] Andrew Lawrence: I have to know Instagram when it can be bothered to put, I don't know,
[3710.31] Andrew Lawrence: I've sort of, I don't know, not dropped off, but you know, and you just,
[3714.79] Andrew Lawrence: uh, not, so don't care about socials as much anymore.
[3718.55] Andrew Lawrence: Fantastic.
[3719.11] Stephen: That's the sign of the man who has plenty of work lined up.
[3721.67] Stephen: I hope that is indeed the case.
[3723.99] Stephen: All the best.
[3725.19] Jack: Cheers guys.
[3726.31] Jack: My darling wife, Tony.
[3727.99] Jack: Bonjour.
[3728.87] Jack: And I'll be bright until I fly.
[3730.15] Jack: You've listed the electron out.
[3731.35] Jack: Thank you.
[3731.75] Jack: Goodnight.
[3732.95] Jack: Cheers.
[3733.75] Jack: Bye.
[3735.51] Jack: Telemetry loss.