=== Let's Drone Out — Episode 524 ===
Title: Let's Drone Out - Episode 524
Recorded: 2025-09-11
Hosts: Koel "Koala" Anderson, Jack "Brightontillifly" Nash
Guest(s): (none recorded)
Total audience: 168
Platforms: YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogyv6g4mktM)
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[19.28] Jack: Hello and welcome you're listening to let's try now
[25.48] Jack: It's just me and
[28.4] Jack: Tail spin by the sounds of air. I don't know how many people are going to get this
[36.04] Jack: Because
[39.88] Jack: YouTube has now got a lovely restricted mode and
[44.76] Jack: And
[46.76] Jack: This is a restricted mode over the weekend
[50.96] Jack: If you were logged in apparently
[54.36] Jack: Restricted mode is set off by default
[58.32] Jack: but if you didn't have an account or you weren't logged in then
[64.32] Jack: Hey Clive, how you doing and you didn't get any
[69.52] Jack: Hey, you didn't get any
[72.52] Jack: You couldn't get the feed it was not available. Um, I
[80.6] Jack: Think this is
[83.96] Jack: The end of LDO
[87.4] Jack: Stevens ill and he's away. Well, he's supposed to go on a night out
[93.04] Jack: for dinner or something and
[95.76] Jack: he's he's got a stinking cold and
[99.4] Jack: I don't know where Cole is
[103.64] Jack: Spoke to him last night and he ah, there's Cole. How you doing?
[113.18] Jack: Hello
[118.02] Jack: How you doing
[119.82] Jack: That's cool. So it means that I tried to convince Cole last night to come on and just hang out and just
[128.26] Jack: Me and him can chat
[131.14] Koel: Yeah, yeah
[133.38] Koel: Yeah, I
[136.58] Jack: I'm not gonna turn up next week. I don't know. It's up to Steven if Steven wants to carry on
[144.74] Jack: He can and if he wants to look for other hosts he can but he's a nightmare with
[151.78] Jack: If you just have two other people whenever I run to go to the toilet, there's no one there
[158.22] Jack: So then Cole's left talking to himself
[161.66] Koel: Which is
[166.82] Jack: Yeah, yeah
[169.74] Jack: I'm not gonna show up next week or
[172.94] Jack: Whatever. I mean, maybe I can talk to the guys later on like, you know
[178.5] Jack: If any of them do miss it and maybe we could do the LDO like, you know
[184.02] Jack: like once a month the first Thursday of every month or something, but I
[189.5] Jack: I really need to go to the maker space and like hang out with real people and
[195.5] Jack: Just you know kind of move on
[199.5] Koel: It's I think there's only one way to do it manages to do it
[202.86] Koel: does it anything if you just if you're dragging it out, you don't want to do it and no one's showing up then
[208.06] Koel: Yeah, and why we're doing it, you know, yeah
[212.54] Jack: it's
[214.5] Jack: Yeah, it was you know courtesy really, you know, I do want to finish off the bonus
[223.1] Jack: Pod series that we had where we were talking about
[227.1] Jack: Stuff when we first got into the Harvey. Yeah
[230.82] Jack: I can release
[233.1] Jack: What can release them?
[235.46] Jack: Now LDOs pretty much over if Steven wants to carry on
[240.02] Jack: Then he can but I remember when I first like started
[246.74] Jack: Podcasting back in like 2013. I was like
[252.06] Jack: Super super like depressed and that
[256.14] Jack: and
[260.34] Jack: Yeah, it's it's whether you can convince the original hosts to like come back and
[269.62] Koel: Buddy I've been I've been trying to get people on that some of the original hosts for quite some time. Yeah, I
[276.46] Jack: Tried I kind of felt like there was a sort of like big
[281.3] Jack: push to like get to the the ten years and
[285.98] Jack: to be honest
[287.42] Jack: Frank's been carrying
[289.22] Jack: Ldo for so long like he's been doing a ton of work in the background loads of homework
[296.18] Jack: Organizing stuff and I think he's just burnt out. We spoke to everyone that
[303.5] Jack: You know, like who we were on the sort of like same wavelength and that and then there's other people
[312.06] Jack: The trouble is our background is it's completely backwards goal
[315.38] Koel: Oh weird because it showed it that it was backwards before and so I flipped it and then no weird. Okay. Yeah
[325.22] Jack: Yeah, so
[327.5] Jack: Like Frank's been doing a lot of heavy lifting. I think without Frank and
[333.06] Jack: The fact that curry wasn't enjoying it in isn't here as well. I
[338.74] Jack: Just you know, and I've been doing
[342.18] Jack: Ldo for ten years and I need a break
[347.02] Koel: Well, I mean
[349.54] Koel: What do they say all good things must come to an end, right? Yeah, I mean
[356.02] Koel: Richard work in the chat. He said once a month is better than nothing
[360.18] Jack: Yeah, I
[362.02] Koel: Mean, I guess it's it's one of those things where you have to kind of do the yet to do that debate, right?
[366.42] Koel: where it's like
[367.62] Koel: Do you want to do it? Do you not want to do it? Are people gonna show up?
[371.18] Koel: Are we gonna be the only ones who are showing up if that's the case then?
[376.86] Koel: Is this a drone show or is this two guys talking on the internet about how no one's coming to our drone show?
[381.98] Koel: I
[386.38] Koel: Mean I can talk about some drone stuff actually because I have some drone related news
[392.54] Koel: Yeah, well you go well for the eight viewers who are watching
[398.98] Koel: Anybody likes to stabilize their videos and they don't want to use gyro flow
[405.66] Koel: GoPro has now made hyper smooth
[408.5] Koel: Pro which is basically just real steady 100% free
[412.74] Koel: so if you go into
[415.5] Koel: your
[416.94] Koel: If you go to the GoPro player app or you download it
[419.74] Koel: you now get hyper smooth for free so you can get free image stabilization the GoPro one the real steady one and
[426.18] Koel: You don't have to do gyro flow
[428.38] Koel: So that's so that's one thing of news
[432.18] Koel: Which honestly, I don't know if really anyone knows about it. I
[436.66] Koel: Don't think anyone's talked about it. It's I made a video about it yesterday because I figured why the heck not
[444.7] Koel: But it's really weird how I found out about it was I found out about it on a reddit believe it or not
[451.46] Koel: Let me find it here
[454.06] Koel: basically
[455.42] Koel: Yeah, hyper smooth is now free. Let me share my screen here. How do I do that present share screen?
[462.18] Koel: So check this out on reddit
[465.18] Koel: Go Pro two days ago officially GoPro official employee made a post saying hyper smooth Pro is now free
[473.34] Koel: Which is really strange because there's nothing about it on their website that I could find yet
[477.34] Koel: But somehow reddit gets it first. Are you guys able to see this? Oh, no, you haven't seen it yet. So it
[484.06] Koel: GoPro r slash GoPro
[487.34] Koel: GoPro official hyper smooth pros now free what it says is that
[493.1] Koel: So, yeah, like I said before download GoPro players are using it for free
[499.58] Koel: Hyper smooth pro works with videos capture on a hero 8 black and later cameras
[505.18] Koel: so
[506.42] Koel: There's your question answered and you're see but
[510.34] Koel: That's a really weird thing though, because if you look like this was posted right here
[515.82] Koel: hyper smooth pro
[517.5] Koel: Stabilization compatibility so it's compatible from 8 and up
[522.22] Koel: for all video modes
[524.22] Koel: but
[525.46] Koel: hero 5 5 session hero 2018 6 and 7
[529.9] Koel: It is supported but image stabilization has to be off
[534.74] Koel: During recording so anything below a hero 8 you can still use hyper smooth pro
[540.38] Koel: But it but make sure that you're not recording with image stabilization. So that's kind of cool
[547.42] Koel: So Jack you'll have to test it out with your hero 5 session
[550.78] Jack: Yeah
[552.02] Koel: Yeah, well
[553.7] Koel: You want to test it right now? We got some you got some footage to show we can there's some drone related stuff. I
[559.78] Jack: Don't know
[561.26] Jack: Can do it towards the end? I've got a bit of news
[565.38] Jack: I've got
[568.18] Jack: I can I can share
[572.54] Jack: Express LRS
[574.22] Jack: the
[576.3] Jack: One one two one now the receivers now support listen before talk
[584.22] Jack: So we are compliant. Oh
[587.22] Koel: Is this like a regulatory thing?
[589.7] Koel: for ring
[592.78] Koel: Thanks, I know I'm being a jerk but it's cuz it's
[597.86] Koel: It's like yay. We can we can follow the route. What is this? Listen before talking?
[603.3] Jack: um
[606.42] Jack: Well, it's like
[608.58] Koel: like like read or what is it like that it's from it's basically for like remote ID stuff or
[618.59] Jack: no, it's what it is is the
[623.55] Jack: Transmitter will listen for the receiver
[630.8] Jack: First and then once it's connects the receiver then it will start going to full power
[637.04] Jack: You don't clog up the airwaves
[640.28] Koel: That's smart
[641.84] Koel: Clive said in his drone news. He's qualified for the BDR
[645.88] Koel: British drone racing championship that's on the next weekend in Bristol nice
[650.84] Koel: Congrats
[653.51] Koel: Andy RC is saying it limits you to 100 milliwatt but listens before it transmits. It's what it's listening for other
[660.23] Jack: Other receiver. Yeah, and when it gets that handshake then it'll
[666.63] Koel: It will power up. No, that's actually pretty cool
[671.51] Koel: Matt Cron is that a new name? Have we seen this name before?
[676.27] Koel: You guys should talk about drones new products what's new what's bad and good how ftv is changing new protocols for links versus old ones
[682.91] Koel: Digital versus analog give suggestions to users. Oh
[686.27] Koel: buddy
[687.75] Koel: Yeah, we definitely talked about this stuff
[690.51] Koel: But it's not a bad suggestion
[693.51] Koel: It's all definitely like good and relevant topics that people would be interested in
[699.63] Jack: The other the trouble is right
[703.63] Jack: That was down to like the sort of like review guys
[707.35] Jack: Andy RC and curry kitten would get sent latest stuff and those guys would talk about it. Meanwhile
[716.07] Jack: Coles frying for us
[718.55] Jack: flying oldest fuck yeah, yeah
[721.99] Jack: And loving it
[723.99] Jack: Yeah, my budget right is that I can't get the right cable
[730.31] Jack: like pigtail, so I end up
[733.75] Jack: Ordering these and then cutting the end off of resoldering my own
[739.39] Jack: No, hey s
[742.07] Jack: Terminal because I can't I can't make the bend
[746.79] Jack: Yeah, good enough because that's what that's what Jack's been up to
[751.91] Jack: Jack's latest news. So like me and Cole recommending products whilst
[759.23] Jack: Fly analog because it still works. There you go. And don't ask us what?
[765.91] Jack: PTX is to buy because
[771.15] Jack: Yeah
[774.35] Jack: If any of you guys miss me, right I
[778.11] Jack: You can find me and the only place after this I won't be on LDO not coming on
[784.51] Jack: I don't believe you I
[786.83] Koel: You say this now you said you were done with LDO yesterday
[793.03] Jack: If you're here and I'm here then we can talk
[799.27] Jack: But I'll be on I'm on tonight
[802.35] Jack: 11 to 12 on Thursday night show
[806.15] Jack: On the LAC 80s, and I'm gonna be talking about how I lost my ham
[813.07] Koel: And and for those who don't know what is the Thursday night show?
[817.47] Koel: What is the LAC and what the heck are you gonna be doing on it?
[821.11] Jack: Okay, so the Thursday you realize it you have to you have to tell people what this is, right? Yeah to know. Yeah, well
[828.31] Jack: originally
[831.43] Jack: LDO was first on
[834.19] Jack: The Thursday night show so you still have to go to a website the Thursday night show calm and
[842.39] Jack: You would go there and you tune in and
[845.51] Jack: LDO would be playing eight till nine and we we would talk and play music and
[852.75] Jack: What is the Thursday night show though? It's an online radio
[857.07] Jack: cool
[858.07] Jack: cool and
[859.87] Jack: You can hear that
[862.23] Jack: Originally if you go back to our first episodes on here
[867.35] Jack: You'll notice it starts at a higher number if you go to bright until I fly you'll see
[875.51] Jack: episodes of LDO that go back even longer to a point and then we
[882.79] Jack: sowed 12 to 13
[885.39] Jack: They're available to listen back on mixed cloud because they originally aired on the Thursday night show calm
[892.95] Jack: Wow, and before I ever did let drone out
[897.35] Jack: I was on a podcast called the lonely artist cast
[900.87] Jack: So if you miss me is I'm not gonna be on LDO
[904.59] Jack: You can catch me there and every so often I won't be playing next week, but I'll be playing the week after I
[911.87] Koel: Mean dude, you did pretty damn good. What did you not miss?
[916.39] Koel: 524 episodes in a row of LDO
[919.31] Jack: No, because I ended up in hospital
[922.55] Koel: But like you pretty much done five hundred and twenty four weeks of this
[928.07] Jack: No, I missed I've been to hospital twice and I missed the load. I was doing
[935.03] Koel: Well, it's still more than 500 Shirley. Yeah
[938.17] Jack: Oh, yeah, I was doing a course and
[943.25] Jack: When J and Clint were taking over I was in therapy
[948.65] Jack: We're not
[950.69] Jack: You know, yeah by the farm
[954.77] Koel: so
[957.13] Koel: It's 500 weeks of this man, you did pretty damn well Jack you have to give it to yourself like you
[962.77] Koel: You
[965.77] Jack: The reason why I started
[968.29] Jack: Podcasting is because if you notice I sometimes in big important things
[974.89] Jack: Like, you know, like the 10-year episode mini air show
[979.81] Jack: anywhere where I'm like a public thing and I'm there for LDO if you wonder why I
[986.97] Jack: Don't wear an LDO t-shirt
[989.57] Jack: It's because I show up in a tell him Steve Dave's t-shirt and tell him Steve Dave is a podcast
[997.61] Jack: where that started up with Kevin Smith's friends who
[1006.85] Jack: Who like Brian and basically Brian was suicidal and he was
[1015.05] Jack: partnered with
[1018.05] Jack: Walt another host on there and cut long story short Brian's job was to show up and
[1026.45] Jack: talk
[1028.01] Jack: to
[1030.01] Jack: Talk to Bri and they would just have a weekly check-in and that's and that's the whole reason I started
[1037.45] Jack: LDO because I I wasn't doing too. Well at one point and I started
[1045.81] Jack: with the LAC
[1047.81] Jack: We started a podcast and it done really well. And then I kind of eventually got into
[1054.77] Jack: Into drones and I met Don Robinson and then I appeared on his radio show and he was like
[1060.97] Jack: I really want a drone podcast to listen to
[1063.77] Jack: They gave us gave me a slot and then I just
[1068.53] Jack: Grabbed to the people that we were flying with at Hidden Valley
[1072.89] Jack: I just kind of right when right this me up this sit and chat and then Frank started emailing in and
[1082.29] Jack: Then poor Frank ended up
[1085.81] Jack: Complete puppet master. So the only the only reason LDO works is because Frank was there working us like fucking
[1094.49] Jack: puppets
[1095.49] Koel: Well, I bet you Frank would disagree. I would say I bet you Frank wouldn't wouldn't take all that glory
[1101.69] Koel: Yeah, like it takes more than one person to run a ship. I mean I
[1107.97] Koel: Do the thumbnails and set the stream up generally?
[1112.01] Koel: Frank does a lot of organizing
[1114.69] Koel: You do a lot of showing up and talking and you've done tons of organizing and getting guests on over the years
[1119.93] Koel: I mean, it's not
[1121.53] Koel: You can't get I mean, I I love Frank and and and Frank's awesome
[1126.25] Koel: But I don't think he would accept that he's the only reason why the show was running
[1132.16] Jack: Yeah, but
[1134.16] Jack: He was a total rock
[1137.12] Jack: And was yeah, you know, he he got us all
[1142.48] Jack: He really did pull this all out the bag
[1146.0] Koel: Well, I don't know. That's what it what an audio get say. I
[1155.85] Koel: Don't know what to say. Literally took the words right out of my mouth audio get
[1160.65] Koel: and
[1162.09] Koel: Audio get also says that I mean, I'm totally changing the topic here has been a chat here
[1166.69] Koel: But he's a 4s pilot to still old gear clives for us till next season
[1172.85] Koel: well
[1173.93] Koel: so then speaking of 4s, this is a 4s battery and
[1179.97] Koel: On it I wrote
[1182.13] Koel: Cell for question mark because I there was something weird going on with it
[1186.61] Koel: Whatever. I went and tested my drone today to make sure that my GoPro still working because it kept like shutting off
[1192.53] Koel: Press and record it would record for like a minute or two and then it would stop
[1197.61] Koel: Well, this now is old and tired low capacity
[1202.33] Koel: So this is like probably one of my very first batteries and I think it just needs to go away
[1208.25] Koel: But I figured out the problem Jack. I figured out why my GoPro was stopping recording
[1213.17] Koel: What was that?
[1216.33] Koel: Knowledge you got it in one you got it in one
[1224.52] Koel: Which is really strange. So remember when I had the crash and then like the GoPro stopped working and it wouldn't turn on or whatever
[1231.8] Jack: Yeah
[1232.8] Koel: well, this is the same SD card that I had all the whole time in the UK and
[1238.32] Koel: it's still reads it's still right and it's totally fine, but
[1242.0] Koel: Maybe over the course of however long of a few hits here a few hits there. It's kind of damaged
[1248.72] Koel: And I did like a read and write speed test on it and it's definitely not clocking at what it's supposed to
[1254.4] Koel: So there's something going on with it
[1257.96] Koel: And I just I had the brainwave and I was like wait
[1260.36] Koel: Let me put in a different SD card that I know was like relatively new same same one and I went out and tested two
[1267.02] Koel: packs low and behold
[1269.44] Koel: No, stop recordings anymore. Yeah
[1272.96] Jack: so
[1277.76] Jack: Only I'll see taught me this if it's a sand disk SD card
[1283.12] Jack: Yeah, they have a warranty thing, right? Yeah, they have a 10-year warranty. So collect them all up and
[1289.72] Jack: you can send them back and
[1292.56] Jack: Yeah, get them
[1295.64] Koel: so this one is not sand disk though, so this this is Kingston and
[1300.6] Koel: When my GoPro was being funky, I was like doing all types of stuff to it to try to bring it back to life, right?
[1308.36] Koel: I was like, you know
[1311.0] Koel: Cleaning up the SD card slot with some ISO. I was doing this I was doing that
[1315.68] Koel: I was just doing all these weird random things thinking like maybe it's this maybe it's that
[1320.36] Koel: well
[1321.96] Koel: The ISO got like in the GoPro and I could like hear it
[1325.48] Koel: I was like shaking it around I could hear liquid in there
[1327.44] Koel: So I had to basically like get all of it out and wait for it to dry
[1330.68] Koel: Well inadvertently not all of it got dry and it rubbed off the print on the front of this SD card
[1336.58] Koel: So now I have a black mystery bad go bad
[1340.04] Jack: SD card. No why what? Yeah, you wouldn't think
[1344.64] Jack: It would yeah, I'd be a powerful enough
[1348.36] Koel: Solvent to do it. It's weird because I'll show you the what what actually what they look like normally
[1356.72] Koel: This is what it would normally look like and
[1361.74] Koel: it's it's all a print like even the black part where the white text is over it that's printed on it and
[1367.94] Koel: Yeah, basically like it was weird man
[1370.78] Koel: It started like peeling in like a really strange way and it was like bubbling up and peeling off
[1375.78] Koel: So I was like, well, that's kind of frickin strange. So I ended up just like scratching the rest of it off. Yeah
[1383.42] Koel: This I just scratched the rest of it off
[1385.3] Koel: And I was like because I didn't want all the little like flakes of the crap coming off to like go inside the GoPro
[1390.74] Koel: so I just
[1392.1] Koel: Made it black. Hmm. This is this is all my UK stuff
[1397.06] Koel: And it's already backed up but and it does still work but
[1402.18] Jack: You're you're super echoey
[1405.34] Koel: Now there's my AirPods. Oh
[1408.14] Koel: Is that why I wonder maybe I can change my mic settings reduce my background noise. How is that? Is that any better?
[1416.94] Jack: Mmm, a bit kind of yeah
[1422.26] Jack: It's weird
[1425.14] Jack: The heat yeah
[1427.5] Jack: interesting Andy
[1429.74] Koel: Well, it's interesting that he says that because like I've never had that issue
[1439.78] Koel: Never had that issue
[1441.7] Koel: up until I
[1444.18] Koel: Just crashed this GoPro like and then the GoPro was dead and now the SD card is funky and like the GoPro didn't get hot or anything
[1451.7] Koel: so
[1453.1] Koel: Who knows I think it's just a weird coincidence or I mean, maybe it's not a weird coincidence
[1458.06] Koel: it's got to be it's got to be tied together to the crashes like
[1462.3] Koel: Like the GoPro song starts acting funky the SD card starts acting funky. Yeah
[1470.2] Koel: Need to fly more cool
[1473.08] Koel: Buddy if you saw my hard drive of things I need to edit you would not be saying that
[1480.48] Jack: Speaking of which
[1485.28] Jack: Yes, as he walks away
[1494.91] Jack: Okay, yeah, do you want to show you some of your
[1500.39] Jack: What was your favorite?
[1503.11] Koel: Thing I'm not even looking at any of UK footage until I'm done my Taiwan footage man
[1507.55] Koel: I'm not even like I'm not even touching that. I'm not even previewing any of it
[1512.79] Koel: All right, it's it's I
[1515.87] Koel: Need to do things in chronological order or else my brain will just be like, yeah
[1524.03] Koel: You do you want to show us what your favorite stuff was? No, I feel not
[1530.47] Koel: Well
[1533.31] Koel: You what
[1534.79] Koel: Wait, I'll wait to your videos out
[1537.51] Koel: Okay
[1538.71] Koel: question on why analog is still alive
[1541.43] Koel: Is it because it's cheap runs pretty good versus digital or is it because many pilots don't care about recording or image quality in the goggles?
[1547.51] Koel: If needing to mount a GoPro
[1549.71] Koel: Well, I can happily answer that question Matt prawn
[1557.22] Koel: Cheap is definitely a huge part of it. Oh look at that
[1561.74] Koel: Cheap is that is a big part of it
[1564.22] Koel: Runs pretty good. I mean
[1566.62] Koel: It's a foolproof system man. Like you give it power you give it a good antenna
[1571.7] Koel: You have good receiving antennas and a good receiver module. It's gonna work
[1577.3] Koel: it's you know, that that's what I would say, but
[1582.38] Koel: Maybe how it's don't care about recording your image quality on the goggles for me personally
[1588.38] Koel: I
[1590.78] Koel: Care more about the GoPro footage being good quality opposed to
[1595.38] Koel: Flying quality and this is coming from someone who's been flying analog
[1600.3] Koel: Like entirely analog up until maybe like a month ago when I got the DJI
[1605.1] Koel: Oh for pro system and I've just because I wanted to try it out and I can confidently say I still prefer flying on analog
[1614.02] Koel: Opposed to oh for pro and I'm not even BSing at all. Like I went out and I flew
[1620.74] Koel: my analog and my digital quad at the same spot and
[1624.7] Koel: I
[1626.78] Koel: Basically was like way too afraid to even try to hit gaps and shoot gaps with the digital stuff and like I don't know
[1633.58] Koel: I just know maybe I'm just not used to it enough yet
[1636.02] Koel: But the way that it felt when I was playing analog it was like I was going through small gaps
[1640.9] Koel: I was going through all these different things. Just my confidence level with analog is like way way way more
[1646.5] Koel: compared to
[1647.74] Koel: Digital, but I'm also kind of a digital noob and I'm also not using
[1653.06] Koel: digital systems in the way that
[1655.42] Koel: Maybe other people are like I'm not doing the highest frame rate possible. I'm not doing
[1660.78] Koel: like certain stuff, but I don't know I I would say yeah cheap runs good
[1668.06] Koel: Don't care about the image quality as long as it's good enough, which good analog is more than good enough. I mean
[1677.19] Koel: There's something pull up
[1680.27] Koel: Let me pull something up here
[1682.79] Koel: because I have
[1687.96] Koel: Video evidence that analog is
[1691.24] Koel: more than good enough
[1693.24] Koel: for
[1694.44] Koel: Pretty much everything
[1696.12] Koel: whether it's freestyle long-range
[1700.88] Koel: You name it, okay, here we go. Let me pull this up here
[1704.4] Koel: this is a video from Alan Victor. He just put this video out and
[1711.26] Koel: Are you able to see this?
[1714.02] Koel: stage so
[1716.38] Koel: Check this out like
[1718.42] Koel: if
[1721.36] Koel: If anybody says they need more resolution than this to fly then like they're actually lying
[1728.8] Koel: because
[1730.08] Koel: it it looks incredible like
[1733.52] Koel: Like how like this is my honest opinion
[1740.27] Koel: How could you need more image resolution than that? You can see everything like you can see
[1748.03] Koel: You can see the blades of grass honestly look at that like it's so clean good analog is really good
[1754.95] Koel: sure, you get like a little bit of a flickering every now and again, but like
[1758.79] Koel: man
[1760.55] Koel: Analog is in my opinion still king and probably will forever be the king because like look at this man
[1767.51] Koel: This is like that. That looks like some high-res
[1771.11] Koel: video future me if you ask me
[1773.95] Koel: And I'm sure all the digital people would definitely disagree, but I love man looks absolutely amazing
[1781.51] Koel: but I don't know
[1786.54] Koel: That's just my take on it. What do you think Jack?
[1789.46] Jack: Yeah, I mean
[1791.34] Jack: One of the reasons I haven't migrated is I just don't
[1796.9] Jack: really want to go to
[1799.14] Jack: DJI, especially with like
[1801.62] Jack: The the weather the old minutes how you doing, buddy?
[1805.66] Jack: You're a man that met the legend. I know
[1809.78] Jack: Bye bye stuff from this guy
[1812.98] Jack: Menace RC. Yeah, the best antennas
[1816.86] Koel: If you're in if you're in Europe or UK or ever over there
[1820.36] Koel: That's the only type of what this the only antenna is to buy on that in those neck of the woods. I'd say
[1826.42] Jack: He's got some cool stuff
[1828.86] Jack: I've been
[1831.14] Jack: flying some cool stuff
[1833.7] Jack: nice
[1835.14] Jack: Don't forget menace
[1836.86] Jack: Don't forget or or this will get this will mind you I'm saying that this will probably still get me the travel anyway
[1845.54] Jack: Was it ufl sMA?
[1848.14] Jack: Yeah
[1851.7] Jack: Yeah
[1855.38] Jack: I need to put one of those horrible though. I think they're called KS or KF
[1861.14] Jack: Oh with the little mounting parts on it. Yeah, yeah
[1864.82] Jack: And huh, you just you buy a menace antenna and you just cover it
[1871.78] Jack: in
[1873.82] Jack: Heat shrink and it's protected at all costs protect it. Yeah, it's it's good and you glue the case when you crack it
[1882.74] Koel: Richard we're working the test said
[1885.02] Koel: Older GoPros are getting more love now as they don't need to be connected to an app to run
[1889.72] Koel: Maybe that's why analog is still doing well. No account is required. I
[1893.92] Koel: mean, yeah
[1896.6] Koel: Could be I mean that is one thing too about analog. It's really good. It's like like I said
[1903.6] Koel: You plug it in
[1905.4] Koel: Your goggles on you get video. There's no there's no account. There's no
[1912.72] Koel: Activation there's no firmware updates. It's like you're literally transmitting or receiving. That's it
[1919.16] Koel: There's no
[1920.56] Koel: There's no bogus behind it, which you know, I
[1925.32] Koel: Don't know. I
[1926.68] Koel: One thing I find really strange is like a lot of a lot of digital pilots or people that only
[1932.68] Koel: basically have only ever flown digital or
[1935.08] Koel: They'll always say like oh, I tried to analog once and it was crap and that went to I went digital and it's like
[1942.24] Koel: the then then I could tell me what their setup was and they showed me it and I was like a
[1947.4] Koel: It was likely set up incorrectly like
[1951.52] Koel: you
[1952.84] Koel: are obviously having a lot of issues that are a user error and
[1956.28] Koel: And then you look at videos like Alan Victor's I just showed like analog can look so freaking good. So I
[1965.28] Koel: Don't know. I've put it this way. I trust analog to go out very far and I also trust it very close and
[1976.96] Koel: Anyone that complains about the breakup. It's like
[1980.12] Koel: You don't you're not looking at the breakup
[1982.44] Koel: You're looking like you're not focusing on what you can't see and what's what's covered you're focusing on what you can see if it does
[1988.32] Koel: Start to break up. So I mean, that's that's how I got it. I prefer it
[1993.84] Jack: Than just blank screen or frozen last image and it's quick to recover as well
[2000.88] Jack: analog where
[2003.32] Jack: You are waiting
[2005.44] Koel: Analog is like basically it gives you warning signs like it's not just like boom
[2010.84] Koel: I mean unless you go behind like a friggin crazy wall and like, you know
[2014.92] Koel: I mean not even a wall but like so you just go behind something or you just get blasted out by like some other kind
[2020.72] Koel: of antennas that are in the area like
[2023.16] Koel: It'll start a little frizzle
[2025.48] Koel: Then they'll frizzle a little more
[2027.32] Koel: Then it'll it'll fizz like quite a bit and you'll start getting these weird things and you're like
[2032.12] Koel: By the time it gets starts doing all the weird stuff
[2034.16] Koel: You probably should have already turned around and gotten back to safety
[2038.2] Koel: Whereas like I mean then again
[2040.52] Koel: The new digital stuff is pretty good though, especially like oh for pro
[2044.92] Koel: like I've seen some videos where it'll go down to like one megabit per second and
[2051.04] Koel: people will be like really far out and they're still flying on one megabit and like
[2057.6] Koel: Yeah
[2059.96] Jack: Yeah
[2061.44] Jack: and
[2062.44] Jack: and
[2063.68] Jack: What I find really upsetting for you is that you live in Canada?
[2068.92] Jack: When it gets to winter time, you cannot fly
[2074.92] Jack: Yeah, so like in theory a normal, you know, if you don't end up going to Taiwan
[2082.2] Jack: Or like, you know going away and doing a ton of flying you would only really fly for half the year
[2089.6] Jack: I
[2092.52] Koel: Not even half the year bro, I would literally fly it from like maybe May to
[2101.77] Koel: wait
[2104.17] Koel: Yeah, maybe October like May is even a stretch because it can still be pretty cold in May sometimes here
[2109.53] Koel: But like May to maybe October and even that's pushing it like three like four maybe five months out of the year
[2116.89] Koel: You can fly here
[2119.73] Koel: And ERC said
[2121.45] Koel: Analog is fine flying on your own. The issue he has is it's unusable as soon as someone turns on the DJI stuff
[2126.93] Koel: Which is trying to receive? Yeah, but no that's not true at all, man
[2131.53] Koel: Cuz we as long as people are on the right channels, you can fly DJI with analog stuff
[2136.89] Koel: you do get the
[2140.41] Koel: You go you get like the you get some little bit but I'm good. Oh, I guess that's the thing though
[2147.25] Koel: Well, I was over there. I flew my analog quad with the one guy that was flying with DJI quad. I
[2154.69] Koel: Didn't have any I didn't have any breakup or any anything and we were flying like together
[2160.41] Koel: so I think it's I do think that like channel selection and like knowing the frequencies also makes a big difference, but yeah
[2167.81] Koel: if you're at like a flying club then
[2171.29] Koel: you know, if there's a lot of people that's kind of hard to coordinate I guess but
[2176.33] Koel: Yeah, I also yeah again, I don't fly with a ton of people either so
[2183.58] Koel: It's great for me. That's my fly analog. It's like I don't have to worry about
[2188.54] Koel: To be honest
[2189.42] Koel: I find it really annoying having to like change my channels and then like change my receiver channels and like do all that kind of stuff
[2195.98] Koel: but yeah
[2204.97] Koel: Yeah, well, I guess
[2207.57] Koel: Trying to take it to a club where everyone's digital. It would just take way more
[2212.01] Koel: Like preparation or like coordination with other people so I can see why it would just it'd be annoying
[2219.05] Koel: Yeah, they got like I said, I find it annoying having to even fly with other people just to coordinate different channels
[2224.37] Koel: And oh, I'm on this channel. So now I gotta change my channels. I'm like
[2229.25] Koel: Like I I generally actually prefer to not fly at the same time as other people because
[2235.97] Koel: It just feels safer
[2237.49] Koel: I guess unless it's like you and one buddy or something like that and you can talk while you're flying you can coordinate and stuff
[2243.05] Koel: I just I'm not really a huge fan of flying at the same time as a bunch of people just too much chaos
[2249.13] Koel: I'm like, I'm trying to focus on the flying aspect
[2252.01] Koel: not oh, no, now I gotta like get out of the way of other people flying the air too, it's like
[2258.37] Koel: It's a bit bit of a bit of chaos. Yeah
[2261.41] Jack: We glad that he was
[2269.23] Jack: You were on analog first rather than it's so many new pilots
[2275.95] Jack: Probably now can't go to analog because they're like, no, I need to be able to see absolutely everything
[2282.99] Koel: Well, dude, I think it's a like I'm not trying to call out digital pilots because like everybody has their own preference
[2290.23] Koel: But I do find that there's a lot of digital pilots that maybe haven't done analog
[2294.59] Koel: They're kind of like snobby like how can you fly that that's not even flyable
[2298.51] Koel: like as far as the image quality goes and I'm like
[2301.43] Koel: You guys could we haven't had good analog before then if you think that analog is bad
[2306.51] Koel: then you haven't had the proper analog experience because I will I will shout from mountaintops about how great analog is because it is
[2315.07] Koel: like
[2316.35] Koel: the field latency that the
[2319.51] Koel: the range the the cost the
[2323.15] Koel: Sure, you're not getting crazy resolution, but you don't need crazy resolution to fly you actually don't
[2330.31] Koel: Like go on my youtube channel
[2333.11] Koel: Look at anything. I've ever done other than anything in the past month that specifically says DJI 04 Pro
[2339.55] Koel: I've done all that on analog and it's totally doable
[2345.27] Jack: Yeah, no worries
[2349.07] Koel: Yeah, just one of those things man. It's like
[2352.31] Koel: people do get really caught up in the in the tech side of things thinking like you need the latest and greatest and
[2359.35] Koel: Definitely not the case tailspin's been on f1 for years. Yeah. Hell. Yeah, dude. That's fat shark man, right?
[2369.35] Jack: Yeah, yeah
[2371.55] Koel: That's one. I'm a I guess he's a he's a race car driver then. Oh, yeah
[2378.63] Jack: I've been on
[2381.27] Jack: Five eight zero
[2388.35] Jack: Ten years
[2393.22] Koel: Shark five. Hmm. I should know that I say when I tuned in. Yeah
[2403.42] Jack: Channel I was assigned
[2405.46] Koel: From I don't know one. Yeah, I have no idea how like
[2409.9] Koel: How I've been this been like I've been in the race band since the beginning
[2414.86] Koel: I don't know how or who or why or what but I think maybe like you sent me a quad that was on raceband
[2421.58] Koel: Yeah
[2423.34] Jack: Yeah, like yeah
[2425.78] Jack: There's not actually no reason to like
[2429.06] Jack: stick you on
[2431.18] Jack: like, you know the old-school fat shark band and also with like
[2436.78] Jack: Being fat sure being like raceband. I stuck you on raceband, too
[2442.46] Jack: So that you were on raceband
[2445.06] Jack: But it meant that at least you'd know have to you know, you'd have to change
[2450.5] Jack: Channel to make sure that you were on right, you know
[2456.34] Jack: Actually on raceband to true like on the gosh, I like e7 or something. Yeah
[2462.14] Koel: Yeah, yeah on the correct one because that they overlap right and you could be technically on you can be transmitting on our one
[2469.3] Koel: Or whatever. Yeah, and then so many
[2473.02] Jack: Yeah, use the smart search and it just gets it wrong
[2478.38] Jack: Yeah
[2479.42] Koel: Yeah, audio geek said on analog with buddies. We fly 25 milliwatt DJI pods do not fly 25. That's the problem
[2486.14] Koel: Yeah, and then Andy I see was also saying the problem is in 2015 analog goggles cost $700
[2492.7] Koel: Well, it's 2025 analog goggles still cost $700
[2496.82] Koel: So when digital came along was about the same or less as I heard so
[2500.82] Koel: Yeah, but then analog VTX costs what like 30 to $50 compared to like $400
[2508.1] Koel: Or like well, maybe that's an exaggeration. How much is it for a how much is it for a DJ?
[2513.66] Koel: I owe for Pro. It's like three something. Maybe. Yeah, is it is it true that?
[2519.7] Jack: Like you can't buy the cameras separately either
[2523.66] Jack: You can you can what the analog or the digital stuff digital stuff? Yeah, you can be in bastard
[2530.46] Koel: you know, you can definitely still buy a
[2533.1] Koel: DJI just the camera and stuff they have replacements for that
[2538.18] Koel: But then
[2540.18] Koel: No, tailspin says analog with a run cam thumb for HD footy can't go wrong. Yeah
[2547.86] Koel: I'm actually I'm going to be oh, I guess I
[2553.14] Koel: Guess I lied on my on my review video that I just put out the other day. I said in my next video
[2557.54] Koel: I'm gonna give away something but then I just put out another video, but I'm giving away a run cam 5 orange brand new so
[2564.38] Koel: anybody who's interested
[2566.74] Koel: My link is in the description of this live chat, I think and so yeah, if anybody wants to potentially win a run cam 5 orange
[2576.78] Koel: Go check out my channel, I guess I guess if that's yeah
[2585.89] Koel: See the vista was 125
[2589.49] Koel: great British pounds
[2591.81] Koel: Yeah, but that's like great British power
[2594.93] Koel: The the vista doesn't exist anymore does it that's still 250 bucks Canadian
[2601.93] Koel: I
[2603.33] Koel: Mean, maybe it still exists. I could be talking rubbish, but
[2608.69] Koel: Analog GTX is tiny digital is huge doesn't fit my old frames
[2613.69] Koel: You know, I only fly micros can't carry heavy GoPro anyway, oh my oh me oh my
[2626.7] Koel: Duncan
[2627.98] Koel: Do you know Duncan? I do not know Duncan, but hi Duncan
[2635.98] Koel: One of my best friends growing up and I was in a band with him growing up. His name is Duncan. So that's pretty cool
[2644.7] Koel: Yeah, Duncan did just get married that's right to a Mexican girl
[2651.98] Koel: No Duncan will definitely know how much this
[2655.3] Koel: To me, it's almost the same for analog versus digital like Yale RS versus crossfire
[2659.62] Koel: Probably because it's cheap both works difficult to say which one is better
[2664.1] Koel: Yeah, yeah, definitely it's a it's a comparison type scenario there, although I don't know like I
[2671.46] Koel: Don't think anything is technically better than the other there's just they're just different like
[2677.54] Koel: Resolution wise digital is obviously better than analog, but
[2681.94] Koel: Then cost wise analog is better than digital
[2685.06] Koel: You'll arrest in crossfire. I mean that's a whole other rabbit hole, but I mean I'm I'm crossfire for life, man
[2690.94] Koel: You're kind of both aren't you Jack?
[2695.3] Jack: I'm the other acts and then I do a bit crossfire for my mid-range stuff
[2704.3] Koel: Yeah, I
[2707.06] Koel: I fly the tango to transmitter. So I'm crossfire. I have a bunch of transmitters
[2714.1] Koel: I mean transfers a bunch of receivers antennas. So I
[2718.94] Koel: Mean it would be nice to actually just saw a video where some guy put
[2725.86] Koel: A mini mortal 915 crossfire into like a five-inch. Can you do that? Is that a good idea?
[2734.82] Jack: No
[2737.54] Jack: Because like even traffic and that everyone's like don't don't use them anymore. It's terrible
[2746.34] Koel: Yeah, well curious to see I mean, yeah, I
[2752.1] Koel: Unless I started like building really small drones then
[2756.46] Koel: You know
[2757.66] Koel: Then you'll arrest might be favorable. But for now, yeah
[2762.58] Koel: You know us is making a big step though
[2766.96] Koel: One giant step for man
[2770.28] Koel: One humongous leap for drone kind
[2774.92] Koel: Yeah, you know the rest is for five-inch racing crossfire for everything else. Yeah
[2786.31] Koel: Yeah, that makes sense. I don't know I
[2790.03] Koel: Like crossfire. I fly crossfire. It works. It takes me out far. It comes back
[2796.55] Koel: Just make sure that you don't have forced telemetry on
[2799.95] Koel: Or else you might get some really funky stuff happening. So
[2804.39] Koel: Yeah
[2805.83] Koel: Like when you're like, you know
[2807.87] Koel: X amount of kilometers out at the top of a mountain you go to do a split s and then all of a sudden like
[2813.35] Koel: Your quad reaction is like delayed and then you're and you're like, oh shit
[2818.35] Koel: and then you have to basically like
[2820.95] Koel: you know
[2822.55] Koel: Telemetry is taking over the frickin
[2825.15] Jack: like
[2828.71] Koel: Yeah, and I'm like
[2830.39] Koel: Top of a frickin mountain trying to split us a crazy like cliff and then my my drone is like delayed from my
[2838.75] Koel: Sticks I was like wait, what is happening? Yeah, that sucked
[2843.43] Koel: so yeah, if anybody ever has a weird issue where they're getting some weird response after they've
[2849.31] Koel: Like maybe done a factory reset of the transmitter or something just make sure forced telemetry is not on
[2856.47] Koel: And maybe that's a maybe wait. Is that a receiver setting? I don't know. I can't remember
[2861.55] Koel: It's it's in it'll be within your radio setting for either the radio or the receiver
[2870.7] Koel: Crossfire just works. You don't need a laptop to buy the new receiver in the field. That's why it's his main but so expensive
[2879.54] Jack: Yo, man
[2881.98] Jack: Why the old edit is here I'm gonna
[2887.02] Jack: I've got a wrap-up
[2889.26] Jack: You're winning the old editor
[2892.38] Jack: The old original editor the one before Peter. Oh
[2898.98] Jack: Aniseed man, yeah
[2902.3] Koel: Yeah, so we're not we're not we're not finishing the episode
[2908.42] Koel: Last episode of let's turn out we're not finishing
[2911.74] Jack: Well, I well, no, I mean, you know like I just saying I need to go soon
[2919.02] Jack: Your radio shows not for what like three hours
[2922.06] Jack: Yeah, I know, but I've got other stuff to to do
[2925.46] Jack: All right, man. I'll send it here then. No, it's all right. I don't like not right instantly
[2931.74] Koel: You just said you have to go I know
[2934.66] Koel: Okay, then let's end it here then man. Come on like whatever. What is it? Is the show happening? Is it not like you're the man
[2941.86] Jack: No, it's fine. Are you like not into me? But yes
[2946.38] Koel: I'm gonna replay this when it's over and you literally made it seem like you're leaving right now
[2951.22] Koel: This is usually calling you out live on let's turn out you bastard. Sorry
[2958.1] Koel: Okay, well, I mean yeah, I guess for anybody who's watching and listening I guess
[2964.66] Jack: Let's yeah, it's not happening next week or ever. I don't know Steve Steven might do it
[2969.3] Jack: I don't know what the do you want to do it with Steven? I don't want to do it anymore, man
[2974.06] Koel: This is done like like we can't be the only people just doing this
[2977.06] Koel: This is like like I love everybody in the chat everybody who's interacting like this has been a crazy
[2982.1] Koel: like fun experience to talk to everybody but like
[2985.78] Jack: Man, what are we doing? Like what's going on? I know I appreciate everyone. I just hope that there isn't
[2993.46] Jack: Someone who like relies on let's drone out, you know, there's a there's a few, you know, like
[3001.98] Jack: TSD really helped me through some dark times and
[3007.02] Jack: A la Madia as well
[3009.38] Jack: you know
[3010.78] Jack: sometimes you kind of
[3013.18] Jack: Rely on rely on the media. But yeah, like it's been amazing. I'm very grateful for these ten years
[3021.54] Jack: Thank you to everyone who's ever been a guest on here LDO. It means a lot
[3026.78] Jack: It's wonderful like meeting everyone and flying with everyone
[3030.98] Jack: I
[3032.34] Jack: Loved the mini air shows. They were great
[3035.54] Jack: Dom's ones Frank's ones
[3038.98] Jack: Grateful for all the friends I've made
[3042.46] Jack: It's been awesome documenting
[3045.62] Jack: Your journey through FPV and getting you on coal. I never
[3050.3] Jack: Imagined when I first met you
[3054.06] Jack: That's
[3055.66] Jack: Let's teach you how to solder and fucking torment you
[3059.58] Koel: Yeah, well, yeah, you definitely put me down in the FPV rabbit hole. That's for sure
[3064.98] Jack: But I'm proud of you man, cuz like, you know, you're fixing stuff for other people
[3069.46] Jack: You've like repaired so much stuff of your own
[3073.3] Jack: Like watching you like help other people in the community and stuff
[3077.9] Jack: It's been amazing. Why you know and it is cool, man
[3081.82] Koel: I like I'll be honest man, like I'm sure more than me or like there's more than just me who can attest to this
[3088.86] Koel: but like pretty much I
[3091.78] Koel: owe a lot of what I know who I know
[3098.18] Koel: Whatever
[3099.58] Koel: About FPV is because of you man
[3101.94] Koel: Like and and I'm not the only person that you've helped out a lot and and we appreciate you man, it's like, yeah
[3108.98] Koel: it's uh
[3110.38] Koel: It is one of those things. I'm like, I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer and be like, you know
[3114.06] Koel: This is the end blah blah blah blah, but like man
[3117.98] Koel: It's like, you know, it's uh, there is a lot of love for for Elio. There's a lot of love for for what you've done
[3126.34] Koel: Like
[3128.34] Jack: Yeah
[3129.74] Koel: If it weren't for you, man, if it weren't for you like not even just drone related like we're friends outside of drones
[3136.14] Koel: Man, like we've known each other since what 2009 2009 well before even drones were a thing. I
[3144.26] Koel: I owe a lot to you and I am very thankful for you Jack
[3149.82] Jack: I'm thankful for you too, buddy. Like you
[3153.34] Jack: Always put like I wasn't the spin on things and you know, yeah, you're just really and
[3162.54] Jack: Like you
[3164.46] Jack: Them a lot from make do with what you've got and do a lot with it and it's very impressive
[3170.98] Jack: That's my number one impressive thing that I find about you within the hobby. I
[3176.82] Koel: Appreciate that man. And and I do apologize for for
[3181.06] Koel: Apologetically calling your ass out because I've known you more than just drone. So I will call your ass out
[3188.06] Jack: This man has got every right to
[3191.5] Jack: 20 years of like do you want to say I'm a dickhead do you want to come on and say Jack?
[3197.42] Jack: Nobody has to say it. We all know it
[3202.58] Jack: He's a dickhead
[3206.9] Jack: So, yeah, if you he's really funny like I would not be doing
[3212.78] Jack: Ldo would wouldn't be half as good without him and I owe an
[3218.46] Jack: Apology to him for leaving him in the lurch
[3221.54] Jack: But I am so glad that we still do the LAC 80s on the Thursday night show
[3226.82] Jack: And it's one of the very few few things that keeps me going. It actually means the world to me and
[3233.9] Jack: As much as
[3236.74] Jack: Ldo means the world to me and everyone in it
[3239.74] Jack: Yeah, me and Cole are friends from myspace Cole may like shut up the tongue little emo music
[3250.26] Jack: Do you know what's mad, you know your
[3253.9] Jack: Song used to be my ringtone. Yeah, the reason I changed it is cuz fab
[3259.94] Jack: I
[3261.22] Jack: Was trying to figure out what that song was
[3265.1] Jack: They used to hear my phone ring all the time
[3276.3] Koel: Yeah, I know dude the one when I heard your phone ring that you changed it I was like what
[3285.22] Jack: Believe it or not. It's still on there. In fact
[3288.86] Jack: the
[3290.06] Jack: Ldo
[3291.66] Jack: Notice is that that tune? Oh
[3295.66] Koel: Using my phone something that other people may not even know as well
[3299.02] Koel: So, you know the theme song that is at the beginning and the end of every last run out episode
[3303.78] Koel: Guess who made that beat?
[3306.42] Koel: This guy. Yeah, I made the themed tune for let's run out
[3312.7] Koel: Believe it or not. That's so weird. I
[3315.66] Koel: No, don't play it. Don't do it
[3318.34] Koel: I don't want to
[3322.7] Koel: Yeah, my old music is
[3326.66] Koel: It's very trauma-inducing for me. No, I was kidding. Yeah
[3331.74] Jack: So
[3333.3] Jack: Yeah, that's that's been it. Hopefully eventually the guys will miss
[3339.18] Jack: Like meeting up and chatting and catching up
[3344.3] Jack: And they might come back for you know
[3348.34] Jack: once a month, but I doubt it I
[3351.9] Koel: Mean, I know those things where if we if we can round if we can round some people up
[3357.3] Koel: If someone like if someone's like hey, we should do it then maybe it'll do it. Yeah, it's like, but yeah for now
[3365.3] Jack: Hopefully me and Cole will do some bonus episodes on patreon
[3369.74] Jack: So if you still if you enjoyed this little thing and you want some intimate talking stuff
[3376.48] Jack: Me
[3380.76] Jack: Yeah
[3382.28] Jack: Cuz like I've really enjoyed doing the the historical podcast and we're going through when you first started
[3390.28] Jack: Then I might go through a few of my videos when I first started so there will be content on patreon
[3397.08] Jack: So the links in the bottom so patreon will still be sticking around
[3402.16] Jack: if
[3403.32] Jack: You know of any hosts
[3405.8] Jack: Who?
[3407.16] Jack: Who might be here you go. Jack's Jack's farming for all the other life. No
[3413.52] Jack: with Steven and stuff
[3415.44] Jack: Send get them to send an email in to let thrown out at gmail.com
[3420.84] Jack: but yeah, I I'm I'm moving on and
[3425.32] Jack: yeah, so meet me and Cole will still hang out because I
[3429.28] Jack: Enjoy doing those bonus podcasts for you Carl and I want to finish that series if you're right with that
[3436.16] Jack: Cool
[3438.16] Jack: Yeah, and you know, you hopefully it will turn into Cole screaming about how I should edit my videos and stuff and
[3447.76] Jack: Well teacher me stuff who knows
[3450.56] Koel: There's definitely gonna be more and more screaming of cold at Jack's you love that
[3458.96] Koel: So, yeah, oh, there we go. Well, oh just that
[3466.32] Koel: And you're see says me
[3468.6] Koel: Cuz all you guys said does that mean Andy or she's gonna be on the next show
[3471.88] Koel: Then Andy RC says I need to be able to get on my own channel first has been the issue
[3476.76] Koel: But Andy RC
[3479.32] Koel: If I'm not mistaken
[3481.32] Koel: You uploaded a video seven days ago
[3485.64] Koel: You've been on your channel. I'm
[3488.36] Jack: You know what what not giving Andy RC some credit
[3494.88] Jack: I'm so sorry. I will be with you
[3497.88] Jack: Andy RC buddy. I done some of the papery hinge things
[3506.16] Jack: It's coming
[3510.64] Jack: RC was coaching me via look at that. Oh, no, I missed that one
[3519.08] Jack: Oh
[3522.6] Jack: Wow, that's nice. It's like it slots in pretty good then there. Yeah, I've done both of them
[3529.6] Jack: hashtag
[3531.32] Jack: Tony's my wife
[3533.72] Koel: No, not anymore. Tony is not your wife anymore. Oh
[3536.72] Koel: Oh
[3540.12] Jack: Wait, let's do that again one more time
[3547.68] Jack: For anyone offended by that I like to Tony hates it when I try and claim that me and him are dating
[3557.05] Koel: There's no claims to be made. That's been loving each other for a very long time
[3561.17] Jack: Yeah, and if anyone gets offended by it, I just say
[3564.97] Jack: Gay tiny GTA, but yeah, you can catch me level the clock on there
[3571.25] Jack: It's been amazing ten years and grateful for everyone who's helped and been along on the journey and joined us
[3577.57] Jack: But yep, I think that's about it regards LDIs and they just kind of wanted a proper send out
[3585.53] Jack: everyone still friends
[3588.25] Jack: And hopefully we'll fly and continue to hang out and do stuff
[3593.13] Jack: But it's been amazing. It just can't carry on in this current format
[3599.09] Jack: You've been joined by Cole
[3602.17] Jack: See ya, I'd be bright to love why we didn't do the intro that way
[3607.65] Koel: Wait
[3609.97] Koel: Sorry, I didn't know you were here you were like wait, let's pretend do the intro right now
[3616.73] Koel: I
[3622.41] Jack: Mean you're listening. Let's run out. Hello. Welcome to let's run out. You're joined by coal
[3631.25] Jack: How do
[3633.41] Jack: My five there you go and everyone's favorite not current again
[3638.21] Jack: He's my favorite
[3641.69] Jack: Thank you guys you listen let's run out thank you for all your love and support
[3645.61] Jack: We'll still be over on patreon come say hello
[3648.65] Jack: We'll be around go here. I'll be on at 11 o'clock. It's in the chair
[3654.61] Jack: The Thursday night show go there come say hello. I'm always we play 80s music
[3661.57] Jack: Come and say hello. And yeah, if you miss me, you can find me there
[3667.53] UNKNOWN: All right, man anger night